general

[void void]

lmao rip cyber

[native wolf]

You are being fed to goblins

[oblique kiln]

what

[void void]

goblin munchie time

[oblique kiln]

pls dont ban

[candid spindle]

[oblique kiln]

no pls

[void void]

it was fun knowing you

[oblique kiln]

bro wait no

[vernal moth]

we dont appreciate ppl continuing to ask for ETAs, it will be release when we happy with it

[oblique kiln]

ok ok dont ban

pls

[shell vine]

BAN

[vernal moth]

pls no I get my second dose in 4 weeks and drive down to croatia for 12 hours the next day 😄

[oblique kiln]

no

pls no

[vernal moth]

chill

[void void]

i had my 2nd dose no symptoms tho

[shell vine]

[void void]

i got pfizers

only thing i had was arm pain that's itt

[native wolf]

Mini going to Balkan

[vernal moth]

you mean biontech 😄

[candid spindle]

AstraZeneca vaccine

[shell vine]

this is not a good plan

[void void]

?

[ashen cliff]

Bro!

What part of Croatia tho?

[vernal moth]

pfizer didnt develop any vaccine, they just producing it for biontech, the product is by biontech

[void void]

Ah well their vaccine then

[vernal moth]

thankfully am not the only driver, its my car tho 😄

[candid spindle]

that makes it better

still dangerous though

[void void]

i actually asked my nurse why the vaccine makes the arm hurt atleast biontech's and she said it's because it creates a small local inflammation in the arm so that the body responds to it faster

that's why it hurts

[vernal moth]

in the bay where krk is, next to rijeka, some small village called drivenik or smth

side note, wtf is the name Krk

[void void]

kirk

[candid spindle]

I would presume it is because you are getting stabbed by a needle

[vernal moth]

and how does on pronounce it

[ashen cliff]

They have : Pag, Krk, Rab.

All simple to pronounce bro.

[void void]

the needle is so small it's insignificant

[vernal moth]

when I say it it sounds like static noise 😄

[native wolf]

Croatia has some weird names ngl

[vernal moth]

but yeah, this will be my pool for 9 days ❤️

[candid spindle]

very nice

[void void]

i did a blood donation a while ago and the nurse punctured my vein so i had a severe swelling in my arm, now that's way worse than a vaccine shot

[ashen cliff]

Going to a pool in Croatia.

Bro. I think you are doing it wrong.

[vernal moth]

also got a sauna and a jaccussi and stuff

wdym

also got this goblin basement

[warm anchor]

Will this be part of future planned stream?

[candid spindle]

that is basically unacceptable. You can't donate deoxygenated blood!

[vernal moth]

the door looks so tiny

[ashen cliff]

The point of going to Croatia is the cheap [readacted]. I mean plentiful sea.

[native wolf]

Lol

[warm anchor]

Holdup

[shell vine]

hobbits?

[vernal moth]

we just going there to chill a bit

[native wolf]

Croatia is popular for going to the sea here

[vernal moth]

der u go whoever asked https://www.twitch.tv/minidigger_

[void void]

Minidigger face reveal wen!?

[quasi valley]

T-a couple of years, probably

[vernal moth]

yeah I think most ppl in here know how I look, lmao

[oblique kiln]

do you guys know any anticheats compatible with 1.17?

free good ones

[twin lagoon]

1.17 is hardly out

[oblique kiln]

i know but im just asking

[warm anchor]

So no

[oblique kiln]

ok

thanks

[glass delta]

free ones aren't rlly that reliable, i'd use vulcan once they update to 1.17

[oblique kiln]

hmm alright thanks

[void void]

Does good free anti cheats even exist?

[warm anchor]

.ncp

[limber knot]

https://github.com/Updated-NoCheatPlus/NoCheatPlus

[shell vine]

theres a nocheatplus fork that is fine

yea

[oblique kiln]

ncp didnt update to 1.17 yet and idk if they will anytime soon

i needed one fast cuz im starting a new smp within the next few days

[glass delta]

doesn't ncp need a bunch of config changes for it to work well

[oblique kiln]

after paper releases

[oblique kiln]

yea

[glass delta]

f

[warm anchor]

Best anti cheat is still this though

1. Have a mature player base
2. Have a whitelist
3. Have player apply to join

[golden gust]

People generally either go for that, AAC or one of the new oddball ones

There is a free config around which people rate well

[warm anchor]

I found this weed out 99.99% of Cheater

[golden gust]

And, anti cheats in general are like a rollercoaster

[warm anchor]

Coz they ain’t going to bother to apply

[oblique kiln]

theres this 1 dude who hacks on my server but i dont want to ban him cuz hes quite a good player and does some pretty great stuff

[warm anchor]

Your sentence is oxymoron

[glass delta]

vulcan superior tho

imo^

[golden gust]

Some new one comes out, revolutionized one or two fixes, fucks up at everything else, and is dead by the end of the year when the dev doesn't care to try much more new in terms of fixing stuff

[oblique kiln]

lol

[warm anchor]

If he’s your friend, let him know you dont approve him cheating. If he doesn’t change just ban

Doesn’t matter if he’s greatest builder in the whole Minecraft

[oblique kiln]

hmm

[warm anchor]

Having him gives other player disadvantage and the fallout once other players found out will be bigger than banning one player

[oblique kiln]

true true

thanks for the opinion

[warm anchor]

Np. I run a decent sized discord so i deal with drama a lot

[oblique kiln]

lol cool

[zealous knot]

is that emote from a server of yours? why didn't you just name it kapride?

[warm anchor]

Yes Turinity is Kenny’s emoji server confirmed

[quasi valley]

Turinity

[zealous knot]

ion fuckin know that's why im asking lmao

[warm anchor]

We can ping brocco for this urgent issue. He’s emoji manager for leaf

[zealous knot]

kapride is so much better

its like 1 word but it's actually two

its a stupid play on words

[tropic flame]

everytime a new major release is out there's always a bunch of people wanting to make a server right away and i just get confused

how about starting the server in the previous major version while the new one matures??

or just wait longer :^)

[zealous knot]

but we wanna see what's new in this version, not the old one

i believe that's why most people start a new server in the new version

[tropic flame]

then run the vanilla software, that's good remedy

once you have to think about "going public" there are other factors you have to consider

[ashen cliff]

Just integrate ViaVersion into Paper an call it a day.

[tropic flame]

other than just the public's choice

[warm anchor]

Newest version attract the most players and its a chance for them to make some money

[tropic flame]

so you either wait longer or you should've started the server already

[zealous knot]

or maybe you should just not care what other people do with their .jars

[zealous knot]

how come? what's in the new version lmao?

[warm anchor]

Some server call it “seasons” it’s just an excuse for them to reset map

[tropic flame]

i would not care if people did not rush to go "but plugins no work!!" and bother developers all around

[warm anchor]

Not many players want to play on old map

Kids all want new map and so they can get ahead of other kids

[zealous knot]

oh yeah i used to do that too

[warm anchor]

It’s just generally those greedier owners come here and demand the release that gets tiring

[hot hamlet]

[tropic flame]

then the server should've already been started so that at least they've got a server running instead of starting a brand new one in the brand new unstable version lmao

[warm anchor]

No no no no you don’t get it

[tropic flame]

but that's just me, what do I know anyway

[warm anchor]

It’s best time to rebrand

Open a new server

Sell loot box

[hot hamlet]

Vanilla smp servers are dead now

[warm anchor]

Wait for it to die

And repeat same process all over again next major release

[limber knot]

good idea, updated it aurora ;D

[hot hamlet]

Ew imagine wanting to profit from a mc server

Host a mc server for people to have fun

[zealous knot]

if i could get back all of the money i spent on loot boxes i would be nae nae'ing elon musk rn

[mental meadow]

epic thanks

[tropic flame]

so you're telling me these people only run servers in the short term?

no long term server plans

[warm anchor]

Pump and dump server

Yes

[mental meadow]

maybe increase the range for a bit

[zealous knot]

yes, it's called fraud, and it's been around for a while

[tropic flame]

bruh

[limber knot]

range kinda depends on the view size

[olive marlin]

We do it the other way - we end the season when major release drops and people choose to reset the map in polls.

[limber knot]

but I increased the percentage and the min-width a bit

[zealous knot]

what are you talking about feenix

[tropic flame]

the Paper-chan website

[zealous knot]

what is that

[warm anchor]

Or alternatively archive old world and/or expend world border yeah

[warm anchor]

https://auri.gay/top-secret

[olive marlin]

I remember when people kept nagging to update and it was hard to say to wait.
Nowadays when I post "sorry, need to wait longer" I usually get a "thanks for working on the server" and no complaints.

[zealous knot]

what am i missing here, it's just an image

[warm anchor]

I believe epic aurorora has updated the package 😉

[mental meadow]

Click on the image

[warm anchor]

Don’t Left click!!! Never!!!

[mental meadow]

Also https://is.papr.best/ that's what I was talking about

[twin lagoon]

[olive marlin]

Well, yeah. I archive everything. Should even have logs from like 2016 or so.

[warm anchor]

[zealous knot]

Aurora my hands are sweating, i saw the paper 1.17 wen link and clicked on it before i fully realized what it meant expecting a rick roll but instead it was jenkins

[olive marlin]

Kinda planning on hiding special portals throughout new world once we reset, where you can join old season worlds read-only.

[zealous knot]

rickroll disaster averted

[limber knot]

lmao

let me add a chance for that to rickroll people

[warm anchor]

Cool Easter egg if you pull off

[zealous knot]

hell no

do not

[olive marlin]

https://syscraft.dev/paper-arrival-countdown

runs

[zealous knot]

fuck you fuck you

[olive marlin]

You too.

[zealous knot]

https://shx.gg/3KRAWP.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/c7/10/f3c7109419ce4f8e9b6f37097acda7f6.jpg

[warm anchor]

It’s worth the wait

[deep juniper]

I agree. 👀

Hello, everyone!

[twin lagoon]

shut up

[deep juniper]

no u

[zealous knot]

🅱️ichael

[quasi valley]

oh you made it come back again

[glass delta]

b r u h

[deep juniper]

I check this place from time to time, even though I've been busy lately to be able to talk. But yeah, I'm here!

[mental meadow]

wait why is it that slow

[limber knot]

probably everyone downloading the pack rn

[warm anchor]

Lol

[mental meadow]

It downloaded instantly for me

[warm anchor]

Rename it paper1.17 for maximum download

[spice ether]

👀

[quasi valley]

I haven't seen that one yet

[deep juniper]

Windows being Windows. 👀 At least the Paper software is not like that!

[quasi valley]

have you seen Paper, tho?

[deep juniper]

What do you mean? I have run the Paper software and it's beautiful! It runs great.

[zealous knot]

i run paper as my OS exclusively, on all of the machines i work with

[olive marlin]

Didn't see Larreeeh post it?

[quasi valley]

I'm not in syscraft, hosts and server owners are cursed

[void void]

[limber knot]

added a rickroll now :P

[tropic flame]

https://youtu.be/aKT2FdzlrSA

ah yes, can't create local user account on Windows anymore in Home edition... unless you turn off the internet

[olive marlin]

I don't use syscraft either smh

I think Larry posted it here on in grestin

[quasi valley]

ah lol

was asleep then probably

[limber knot]

meh, my cool double rick-roll doesn't work as browsers don't allow autoplay of unmuted videos anymore -.-

[ashen cliff]

So just like the latest Windows 10 installer.

[sage herald]

yey 1.17 paper

[mental meadow]

I know, I sadly realized that when building https://cutiepie.at/kneny

[worn ember]

@smoky python niqqq

[limber knot]

wait, I think I have a workaround

[worn ember]

You can just listen to a click event or something or when it's in focus

[olive marlin]

Ugh, cloudflare keeps showing me:

[limber knot]

I just solved it by including the video directly into the page and using the link click to play it

[quasi valley]

lol

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-06-19_13-38-37.png

[mental meadow]

where is that from lol

[ashen cliff]

Oracle.

[mental meadow]

reminds me of the Tom Scott talk where passwords became optional

[ashen cliff]

So if you never logged into your account, you can never reset it's password.

[stuck wind]

ah yes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/708937439955255357/817424869272190986/video3-1.mp4

[zealous knot]

LMFAO!!!!!

[stuck wind]

this is what i see when i sleep

[limber knot]

https://is.paper.sexy/fYxMPyMr.png ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[stuck wind]

AYO WTH

[golden gust]

one does not simply lewd paperchan

[mental meadow]

lewding paper chan is illegal

[golden gust]

So, whos in on the boing boing mouse pad order anyways?

[mental meadow]

if you ask one more time I'll actually make one

[zealous knot]

.cam can also mean she's turning into a hololive character

[golden gust]

boing boing.

mouse pad.

[quasi valley]

do it and send all of them to cat

all of them

[zealous knot]

no i want one too

[golden gust]

all I see is a lack of boing boing

[zealous knot]

all i feel is nothing

[golden gust]

you'll feel something one day

[mental meadow]

it's like 1-5$ on Alibaba

[golden gust]

||the sweet, sweet release of death||

[limber knot]

oooh, I should make a paper chan jenkins persona plugin config (after I fix the exploits in that plugin lmao)

[zealous knot]

you can just send them a picture and they'll make into into a tit mouse pad?

tf

[mental meadow]

yea

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Custom-Mouse-Pad-Sexy-OEM-Custom_62442063109.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.4b0e1a8dfp6JnF&s=p

[quasi valley]

humanity has peaked a few decades ago

[zealous knot]

i have a few ideas now

[golden gust]

sigh

[limber knot]

mfw alibaba is blocked for me wtf

[zealous knot]

can we just put kenny's profile picture on this mouse pad?

[mental meadow]

yes

[twin lagoon]

paperchan

[zealous knot]

kenny will be our paper chan

[twin lagoon]

knenwald booba mousepad

[quasi valley]

wtf

[zealous knot]

what is that

[twin lagoon]

[olive marlin]

[twin lagoon]

[tribal wagon]

[twin lagoon]

weebs

[tribal wagon]

and proud of it

[twin lagoon]

[olive marlin]

Why is QNAP so slow at decrypting

[zealous knot]

to waste your time

[deep juniper]

🤔

[zealous knot]

(what is qnap, and what is it decrypting)

[golden gust]

nas box thing iirc

[olive marlin]

NAS, decrypting my data volume

[zealous knot]

oh

that's simple

[golden gust]

Give the atom some credit

[tribal wagon]

just dont encrypt

[zealous knot]

its so that the fbi doesn't have enough time to decrypt it when they break into your home while you're grocery shopping

[olive marlin]

It doesn't run Atom, thank you very much

Still slow.

I also need to throw a second 2G stick in there.

[twin lagoon]

celeron

[zealous knot]

dude the cpu on my nas is from a smartphone from like 2017

its so slow

its literally an arm based cpu

[olive marlin]

The only reason I didn't go with ARM was so that I can run docker on it if I need.

But now with everything moving to ARM...

71% decrypted...

[zealous knot]

nah i have separate machines for that so i dont really care

[olive marlin]

ME too, but still.

[twin lagoon]

apple m1 nas when

[zealous knot]

ikr

[olive marlin]

Michale nas wen?

[mental meadow]

Michael should sell merch

[twin lagoon]

yes

[mental meadow]

michael boing boing mousepad when???

[twin lagoon]

😳

[olive marlin]

I'd buy some good Michale merch, ngl

[void void]

hi

[limber knot]

.addcmd startmc https://startmc.sh

[limpid comet]

that's so hot

[frank otter]

.startmc

[limber knot]

https://startmc.sh

[wispy blade]

curious, what did you buy for father's day?

i bought caramel fudge cuz my dad loves caramel fudge

[waxen panther]

[golden gust]

the wording of some stuff is meh but, like, er...

people are dumb

when you deal with dumb people all day, you resort to dumb measures

[limpid comet]

i will gladly take any and all suggestions for the text

[golden gust]

that means words and english and i will shit on your rug

[limpid comet]

i feel the same

[waxen panther]

how dare you blue 😡 😡 😡

[limpid comet]

i guess there's no getting around that

when i have some free time ill try and improve the messages

as per the css, fixing that right now

[waxen panther]

setting the z index of the popup to something higher than the footer would fix it

[limpid comet]

yes

[ashen cliff]

Bro. Just hide the footer.

[limpid comet]

i think i might've accidentally deleted that, because i know when i was first writing the css for it i had fixed that already

[waxen panther]

it would probably be helpful for you to tell him which ones are wrong trig, 80% of the descriptions are copied from aikars site

[limpid comet]

i would appreciate that

[ashen cliff]

https://chriswhocodes.com/hotspot_options_jdk11.html

Have fun.

[twin lagoon]

Bro.

[ashen cliff]

Bro!

[twin lagoon]

Dragonwell 16 when

[ashen cliff]

I know you lost the link already bro!

17 bro!

Soon bro!

[waxen panther]

dragonwell bro

china java

[twin lagoon]

You don't understand bro

https://github.com/alibaba/dragonwell8/wiki/Wisp-Documentation

[ashen cliff]

Did you try 8 bro?

[waxen panther]

pingpong

[twin lagoon]

pongping

[ashen cliff]

I tried 8 bro. My profiler instant crashed, but damn it worked good.

[twin lagoon]

KGBJDK 17

[ashen cliff]

Already up and running.

[twin lagoon]

Already on KGBJDK 20 bro.

[viral hornet]

PR ? 😳

[twin lagoon]

how's the pain @viral hornet

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

[viral hornet]

Pretty shit

[ashen cliff]

Can't just PR stuff. People might think you are associated with them. (SR)

[viral hornet]

Hows Michael 🥺

That does make things tricky

[limpid comet]

its already fixed

[ashen cliff]

Spot where someone created a lag machine on our snapshot test server:

[wispy blade]

18:00

[peak matrix]

Lol

[ashen cliff]

Also thank you Oracle for not giving me a clickable link: https://posili.me/i/2021-06-19_15-09-55.png

[untold copper]

how do you do dopamine

[potent fossil]

🤦‍♂️

[twin lagoon]

god i hate this platform

[ashen cliff]

Woah.

[ebon ice]

what the fuck

[ashen cliff]

Such words from a Discord™️ Certified MOD.

[waxen panther]

paper-chan!

i love u

idk go outside

turn the computer off

[untold copper]

get some help

go see someone

[ashen cliff]

Christianity has a solution for this. Tho you might not like it.

[untold copper]

shut up krusic

[frank otter]

paper-chan is here!

[deep juniper]

Paper-chan does not endorse drug addiction nor non-professional medical advice! Please seek any trusted form of therapy, as it is more likely to give better results than suggestions from online strangers.

[waxen panther]

Christianity has a solution for a lot

[twin lagoon]

Paper-chan is an addiction in itself

[deep juniper]

Hi broccolai! I love you too. ❤️

[quasi valley]

paper-chan is addicted

[waxen panther]

i am addicted to paper-chan

[twin lagoon]

i'm addicted to kebab

[ashen cliff]

Krof je KEBAB!

[mossy vessel]

addictive

[quasi valley]

no

[twin lagoon]

@mossy vessel

[mossy vessel]

yes, for you

[quasi valley]

[shell vine]

ligma

[mossy vessel]

[frank otter]

wait

[buoyant pier]

When will official paper build release?

[frank otter]

discord font is the ew ew one

[untold copper]

sugon

[wide chasm]

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[frank otter]

what lmao I have the bad font

is this beta

[untold copper]

o.O show

[frank otter]

android discord beta has the bad font

oh and the bad colours

[deep juniper]

Addicted to the Paper software and its community? Perhaps... but I guess it is a healthy "addiction". Nothing near of a substance that alters your brain's normal function. I'd say that's the difference. 😅

[waxen panther]

it's been standard for awhile afaik

android is always a few years behind though yeah

[untold copper]

wtf

i also JUST noticed it

kekw

[frank otter]

The colours too

like of the send button

[untold copper]

extended exposure to papermc general is injurious to health

[quasi valley]

true

like reading everything snoopa writes

[wispy blade]

and the politics channel

[quasi valley]

and that

[waxen panther]

you dont need extended exposure for #politics to ruin you

just open it for a few seconds

[frank otter]

I didn't even know a politic channel existed

[untold copper]

hey im not always dumb

[quasi valley]

like reading most of what snoopa writes then

[untold copper]

i'll have you know there are times i feel smart ok

wait

[quasi valley]

[untold copper]

smh lol

[waxen panther]

[meager tusk]

Would be a lot worse if there was more balkan politics in there.

[waxen panther]

better

[quasi valley]

100x better

balkan politics or gtfo

[worn ember]

Every time I look at politics I feel like making a paper issue and assign it to Kenny

[meager tusk]

No.

[wispy blade]

everytime i look at politics i lose more faith in people's ability to comprehend basic sentences

[meager tusk]

You have no idea.

Politics is ass but Balkan politics is way worse

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

[meager tusk]

If you want a glimpse please go to the wikipedia page of any Balkan country's history

[untold copper]

Balkans

[wispy blade]

you think Balkan politics is bad?

you haven't seen NL politics

[untold copper]

have you seen

[meager tusk]

NL has politics?

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

[untold copper]

INDIAN POLITICS GO

[golden gust]

cow pat make heat

cook food

MAKE MAN MAN

[untold copper]

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT BRO!

[deep juniper]

If that were true, then I would be as dead as you all are. And I don't think you're dead... 🤔

[quasi valley]

but you are

[golden gust]

Warning

[untold copper]

or am I

[deep juniper]

Not really.

[quasi valley]

[golden gust]

This discord contains chemicals known by the state of cancer to cause california

[untold copper]

yes

[wispy blade]

Bro, epic example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_childcare_benefits_scandal

[quasi valley]

how bad of a california are we talking here

[wispy blade]

california²

[golden gust]

terminal, started from the ass

[quasi valley]

oh

[untold copper]

you guys have childcare benefits?

[meager tusk]

Netherlands is the only country I see as just.. uneventful for some reason

And it's mostly ignorance on my part

I see it as a big superflat world with people on bikes and being tall

[wispy blade]

it is uneventful unless you go onto dutch twitter

[quasi valley]

everything is uneventful until you go to twitter

relatively speaking

[ashen cliff]

Idriz bro!

[meager tusk]

What bro?!

[ashen cliff]

Imagine if non-paper actually existed.

OH WAIT!

[deep juniper]

Russia is uneventful until you go onto VK. 👀

[meager tusk]

You guys have the solutions to everything.

[untold copper]

Russia is uneventful until Russia

[ashen cliff]

Fact bro!

[meager tusk]

The only problem is you started making other people create non-papers

Namely russians. And then they were pushed as they were from the EU

and our politicians went apeshit

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAnGYfnFz9I

[ashen cliff]

Bro Just IMAGINE. VELIKA BOSNA.

[golden gust]

kept remembering that several times this week, so, enjoy

[potent fossil]

so did github remove the little box of all your active notifications on the feed page, or

is this some dumb A/B test

Like this is all I see on my gh homepage https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Pink-Crocodileskink-31.png

[golden gust]

you mean all activity?

[waxen panther]

looks like mine, cant say i remember a notification thing on it

[potent fossil]

that little box up top when you have stuff actively mentioning you, now i have to go click the bell

wat

the little box at the top, y'all never had that?

[golden gust]

I mean... erm, I don't remember, buuut

[potent fossil]

😳

[vernal moth]

yeah I noticed that too simple

[vernal moth]

yesterday or so

[potent fossil]

It's the "Recent Activity" box I'm talking about

which "All Activity" has always been under

[vernal moth]

it seems really empty now

[potent fossil]

so it's there https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Adorable-Africanjacana-19.png
just hidden, but if I uncheck the display: none property, then it comes back but looks like it's designed for mobile

god damn it m$

[ashen cliff]

On mobile they hid the search function for no real reason. Even if you use desktop mode, it sometimes just doesn't show up.

[vernal moth]

no simple thats the mobile view

[potent fossil]

Oh, well, shit then

[vernal moth]

on mobile you dont have the left sidebar

[potent fossil]

https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Noxious-Arcticfox-7e.png

Yea, well. That's like, sort of what it looked like.

[vernal moth]

yeah but they moved it to the left

[potent fossil]

Oh jesus, I didn't notice that at all

What dumbass signed off on this

alright, well, at least it's there I guess. thanks mini

[mental meadow]

good morning

[wispy blade]

hi aurora

it's actually afternoon 👀

[mental meadow]

I know

it's also fucking hot

[ashen cliff]

But bro. Why didn't you go with Ubuntu?

[vague ermine]

im tierd of spigot it is poop. i am going to live on the edge. 1.17 paper experimental goin on lol.

hmmmm

sacrifice i am willing to make. is anarchy anyway

[wispy blade]

have fun with invis signs/chests/armorstands whatever

[vague ermine]

storage esp still finds them. meteor go brrr.

[wispy blade]

yes

but they'll be empty

[potent fossil]

it's not a sacrifice in that it's a probable risk

it's like, a promise

it WILL happen

so take a backup

[vague ermine]

yeah thats fine no one uses them and the server was wiped yesterday anyway.

[potent fossil]

lol ok

[peak ginkgo]

great morning paper discord

[potent fossil]

gud morning DeJay

[peak ginkgo]

[mental meadow]

oh DeJay is pretty in pink now 😮

[unique plover]

yooo we getting close

[wispy blade]

has been for a while lol

[waxen panther]

im pretty in green

😎

[wispy blade]

yes

100% agree

[waxen panther]

vegetal role should be f5a5a5 tho

best colour ever made

[wispy blade]

that's close to no table

[waxen panther]

but way cooler

i can type

fucking jroy is awake

gg gn

[wispy blade]

wtf

[vague ermine]

mint, we dont need tile entities where we are goin

invis endcrystals will be rad though didnt even think of them

[wispy blade]

only ones that were there before

[vague ermine]

ohhhhh

ok

[worn ember]

Ew

[waxen panther]

who

[worn ember]

[pallid edge]

Do I need to create a whole new Mojang/Microsoft account if I want to buy an alt?

[potent fossil]

For now yes

[pale robin]

yes

[vague ermine]

lol

what is thealtining

[pale robin]

OR

get bedrock

if you bought java prior to a certain date

you can get a free bedrock account

and by installer geysermc you can play on a java server

[pallid edge]

Oh I got that one, though I basically need a permanent alt for testing stuff on my server

[vague ermine]

i have 150 alts from the altening. do recommend.

[pallid edge]

too scared that thats gonna break one of my 100 plugins lol

[tropic flame]

yeah, kinda sucks to have the accounts tied to Microsoft now

[pale robin]

geysermc doesnt break plugins lol

[potent fossil]

They are "looking into" multiple MC accounts per M$ account, but for now you need a separate M$ account.

[tropic flame]

even though everyone praises it for da securitee

[pallid edge]

hm I once bought an alt from an alt shop but it stopped working eventually lol

[pallid edge]

Aaah okay

[vernal moth]

@mental meadow TIL even in Bavaria there are humans with morals and a strong back: https://amp.zdf.de/nachrichten/panorama/allianz-arena-ungarn-regenbogen-lgtbq-100.html

[vague ermine]

go to a better sho

shop

[pallid edge]

I hope once they add that, they'll also add a way to transfer accounts from one MS account to another

[restive thicket]

Hello, am Geyser person.

[twin lagoon]

Camotoy

[pale robin]

i use geyser too

[twin lagoon]

[restive thicket]

Hi, Michael!

[fossil cedar]

the real one

[plucky sparrow]

Is witherhosting okay? or is there any better alternative? I used to use pebblehost but I'm up for a change

[vernal moth]

Not sure why multiple MSAs for multiple Minecraft copies is a problem? You already had multiple Mojang accounts for multiple accounts

[restive thicket]

Yeah anyway, Java's experience will 99% not be tampered by Geyser.
There's some CPU or latency bug with BungeeCord and Floodgate that I'm unable to replicate ;_;

[pale robin]

camotoy you a dev for geyser?

[restive thicket]

Yes.

[pale robin]

how do i do the offhand thingy again

while your here :p

[pallid edge]

Even plugins messing a lot with UUIDs or packets?

[restive thicket]

Java's experience will not be tampered.

And if it is, that's a pretty critical bug on our end to fix.

[restive thicket]

/geyser offhand or there's an emote offhand workaround in the config.

[pale robin]

yeah the perm node

[pallid edge]

how's the bedrock experience with plugins? Are they usually compatible?

[restive thicket]

Usually, yes.

[pale robin]

ill take it to the geyser discord

[potent fossil]

geyser is poggers

[pale robin]

geyser is awesome

[restive thicket]

Yeah!

[potent fossil]

camotoy is more poggers

[pallid edge]

lol

[pale robin]

geyser & floodgate

[pallid edge]

Alright imma give it a try if y'all are so positive about geyser 😄

[pale robin]

and papermc = match made in heaven

dont forget floodgate

and before you launch it edit the config to remove the "."

or luckyperms will not be happy

found that out the hard way

[restive thicket]

Whoa, don't remove the prefix! It's there for a reason.

[pallid edge]

oh which config?

[restive thicket]

Instead, set LuckPerms' allow-invalid-usernames to true.

[pale robin]

oh

ill be damned

i just removed the . :p

[restive thicket]

That's mostly my bad as we haven't documented that.

[pale robin]

not even thought of dooing that camotoy

[pallid edge]

Do I need to change something for other plugins like Lands or LiteBans?

[restive thicket]

Let me do that now on our end.

[potent fossil]

Might be better to head over to the Geyser support discord, see #community-guilds

(More people to help, not just Camo)

[pallid edge]

ah true, okay!

[stuck wind]

oops

XD

[pale robin]

camotoy , you made my second server owner gigle like a schoolgirl

when i showed him this convo

[stuck wind]

WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MY DISCORDDDD

[potent fossil]

Told you yesterday, chill with the caps lock dude

No need to scream at us

[stuck wind]

sheesh

my discord is cursed

its just showing a BIG screen saying we appreciate ur enthusiasm for 1 hour

i can still chat :P

[pale robin]

restart it

or join a discord support discord for discord

[potent fossil]

lul, what a nice dude https://www.localhost3000.org/

[merry talon]

wtf is foreman

[potent fossil]

system management, i guess. havent used it

[worn ember]

huh this is cool, you can see spell descriptions on heroes in real time in twitch stream

[waxen panther]

dota zzz

[worn ember]

pretty cool tho

[pale robin]

feeds the devs

[potent fossil]

yeah they're adding a lot of cool interactive stuff

[wispy blade]

ok but light theme

[worn ember]

ok but i never use twitch so shush

[potent fossil]

that jackbox.tv game lets your audience join right on stream

[mental meadow]

now just make it where you can also use the spells via twitch stream

[potent fossil]

very cool

[worn ember]

you'd be 10 seconds late lmao

[wispy blade]

twitch extensions are pretty cool yes

[magic river]

I don't get it, is it replacing the in game popups with stream popups?

[worn ember]

not replacing, showing them when you hover over the spells in twitch

[magic river]

Oh, that's you doing that

[sage herald]

Please help
I just started my server
With 13 people online
And the furnaces don't work
Don't work
The food works fine
But the iron block no

Please help

[worn ember]

its basically a remake of the tooltips in game, but then remade in html/css

[magic river]

Step 1: Remove the enter key from your keyboard

[mental meadow]

P
l
e
a
s
e

h
e
l
p

[magic river]

Step 2: Ask again in #paper-help

[sage herald]

Please help

[potent fossil]

[wispy blade]

.halp

[limber knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555469074080202765/561287494075678721/image0.png

[sage herald]

Look this

[magic river]

#paper-help

[mental meadow]

Look #paper-help

[foggy elbow]

Hello,

Anyone get good flags for graalvm 16 ? 🙂
I'm currently just using default aikar flags

[potent fossil]

keep using them

if they need to be changed they will be

[vernal moth]

Well graal is way different

[potent fossil]

Maybe Mini has tips I don't know

[vernal moth]

Nobody cares about graal anymore ever since oracles lawyers discovered that project and ruined it

[meager tusk]

What happened?

[foggy elbow]

I didn't notice much difference between java 16 and graalvm 16, but I kept graalvm

[meager tusk]

This is news to me

[vernal moth]

Oracle is paywalling optimizations

[meager tusk]

That's dick

[potent fossil]

sounds about right to me

[wispy blade]

That's Oracle for you

[potent fossil]

Hey!

Dick is much better than Oracle

[worn ember]

depends who's

[tropic flame]

mmmyes imagine owning trademarks for the name of a language which the runtime is open source

[worn ember]

be glad it is

[tropic flame]

I am glad

for the open source part

[novel zephyr]

is there any decent language similar to java which does not have these kinds of limitations?

[mental meadow]

what kind of limitations?

[tropic flame]

the limitation is not on the java language itself

Graal is something separate

[magic river]

btw for the people talking about wanting a smaller phone the other day: the iPhone SE is about as powerful as a flagship Android phone but is smaller

[vernal moth]

The pixel a series has the same CPU as the XL too

That's nothing special

[magic river]

That's because the Pixel isn't a flagship

Starting with the 4 or 5 they shifted hard into midrange but still charge kind of flagship prices

[tranquil bone]

Are there any .jar obfuscators which do not require programming knowledge?

[magic river]

Their camera hardware is 5 years old and their SoC is a midrange model

Why would you need to obfuscate open source code?

[meager tusk]

Anyone ever been able to figure out Spring Security OAuth2 with a separate frontend(like React or Vue)?

I'm trying to get google and github oauth2 working with spring security and somehow being able to use react and vue as well. The best idea i've got right now is making the frontend send the authorization code to the backend which then crafts a JWT token as a response to the frontend which they can use for anything else

The thing is I'm not sure if this is a good paradigm and if spring security would support it

[magic river]

That's pretty standard design afaik

[olive marlin]

Bro! All you need is Balkan security!

[tranquil bone]

It's not open source. Do you know of any which allows me to do this?

[meager tusk]

Yeah this is what I did for another project but it only had Discord authorization

and I wasn't sure if it was a good idea

[ripe sphinx]

react and vue

[meager tusk]

Bro. I'm gonna get DELTA Security with me.

[wispy blade]

just obf by hand lol

[magic river]

Just because your backend is using github's oauth2 token to log you in doesn't mean your whole project has to use it

[meager tusk]

i said or vue

[magic river]

But if it's for Bukkit/Spigot/Paper it has to be open source so I don't understand 😛

[meager tusk]

unless you mean you hate both

[meager tusk]

Yeah.

But I do also need to know if Spring Security has anything built in to handle this paradigm

or if I need to manage this on my own

Shouldn't be too hard to implement, would be nice if there was something built in tho

[tranquil bone]

This will be an exchange off of the Spigot/Paper forums, does the TOS not allow this?

[magic river]

My license does not allow this

[olive marlin]

Doesn't need to be open source, but you need to give your unobfuscated code to anyone who you given the jar to and asks for it.

[magic river]

That is open source 😛

[ripe sphinx]

GPL requirement

Bukkit's GPL, and by extends JavaPlugin, your project is magically GPL too

[tranquil bone]

That changes things, thank you for the information

[vernal moth]

The soc isn't mid, it's just always a year too old. The camera hardware together with the software still produces some of the best smartphone photos so they had no point to change
But yeah, pixel 5 wasn't a flagship (which is why I didn't switch) but it's expected that the 6 is a flagship again

[magic river]

What? No, they literally switched to the 700 series snapdragons instead of the 800 series

It's not the 600s so it's not literally midrange but it's not a flagship

[vernal moth]

My 4xl has a 855

As I said, ignore 5, that's not a flagship by design

[magic river]

Huh, I thought the 4 was when they made the switch

Anyway, the 4 still has an old camera module

They didn't change that since the Pixel 1

[vernal moth]

Because it still works

The tech is in the software

But yeah, I agree that they should give that a bump

[magic river]

They still take decent photos but they aren't the best anymore

[vernal moth]

But who knows if all their software transfers to a new sensor

I would assume they are pretty hesitant

[magic river]

They claim it doesn't but the modding projects say otherwise

[worn ember]

tf is a flagship? is it supposed to sink cruisers or something

[minor badge]

This doesn't necessarily apply. Proprietary code can still include and link to GPL code; while disallowed, it'd still be proprietary code until someone takes them to court

[magic river]

A flagship phone is one that is the best you can get

[vernal moth]

A flagship is naval stuff is the most modern tech, the leader

[mental meadow]

until someone takes them to court
and that won't happen (sadly)

[worn ember]

i think having a phone that can sink cruisers is pretty good

[magic river]

Some day my savings account will be large enough

[worn ember]

me looking at my 40euro savings account

same

[vernal moth]

I don't even know what a savings account is

[worn ember]

its an account where you put money to save aka not spend

[potent fossil]

high interest

[vernal moth]

You don't get interest anyways

[magic river]

eww the bank I have my savings account at tells you if you put in an invalid username

[merry talon]

But why would you tell this to someone looking for an obfuscator

[worn ember]

tf you mean high interest its like 0.01%

[potent fossil]

mine is half a percent

[worn ember]

wow

[olive marlin]

It'd the account where you hide cash from being visible when you open your main account.

[vernal moth]

This is an open source community, we don't appreciate ppl using tools like that

[left swift]

A whopping 0.3% interest rate poggers

[broken sleet]

i have to agree on something 'spighot is trash' paper is epic

[formal turret]

wow mine too

[worn ember]

it literally costs more to have the savings account than it makes xD

[wispy blade]

yoooo!

twinsies

[merry talon]

Exactly my point?

So why tell them that they're gonna get away with violating gpl terms

[potent fossil]

@worn ember https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Natural-Amurminnow-47.png

it actually got lowered to that bc of covid

was 1.5

[olive marlin]

Imagine paying for your back account.

[vernal moth]

What's the max limit simple?

[olive marlin]

I was getting up to 5% or so before Covid.

[potent fossil]

for what? interest?

[mental meadow]

because while we don't like it we also tell the truth

[vernal moth]

Yeah, doesn't this accounts have a max limit before you don't get any interest?

[potent fossil]

Nah

[olive marlin]

Some I have reduce the interest after some amount.

[potent fossil]

Oh, I mean, yeah, I guess per bank

[olive marlin]

Others have limit high enough that I don't care.

[potent fossil]

Not a policy though

[worn ember]

banks are a scam

[magic river]

For some you hit the FDIC limit first 😛

[potent fossil]

yea was gonna mention that, but wasn't what he was talking about

[merry talon]

There's a difference between lying and giving less information :p

[magic river]

(don't have more money in an account than the FDIC limit)

[worn ember]

i store my entire livesavings (60euro) in my wallet

[potent fossil]

lul

[vernal moth]

I just have all my money in my main bank account

And fuck that did pile up during covid

And well, bunch of investments in fonds and shit

[magic river]

If all of your money has more than 4 digits in it you should have some kind of savings and/or investment accounts

[vernal moth]

I just don't wanna deal with all this shit, lol

Finance work is so boring

I invest like 200 euros per month or smth, and the rest just piles up

[magic river]

I'm not doing FIRE but my goal is to retire really early

[fallen oracle]

All that Paper money 🥵🥵

[magic river]

Gotta keep on top of this stuff

FIRE is mostly for people in the valley

[olive marlin]

I really want to invest my 6 digits, just i don't feel comfortable doing that. Might wait a bit more and buy an apartment to rent or something when I'll find a decent offer.

[vernal moth]

See, I wanted to buy an apartment for myself

[magic river]

Unless you need the money in the next decade it's always better to invest it

[vernal moth]

But good luck finding anything below 500k in this city 😂

[magic river]

Unless you think the world will collapse before you get a chance to spend it

Then maybe you should "invest" in gold coins or something 😛

[tranquil bone]

I'd argue that buying a house is a liability

[olive marlin]

Buy an apartment, get a company to deal with renting and fixing it etc for 5% of your monthly income from it and forget.

[vernal moth]

I wish I could buy any apartment here

It's impossible

[olive marlin]

Still need to pay a bit every few years to paint it etc.

But I know I won't be buying it in my city, we're in a huge bubble.

In last 8 years the average prices doubled or so.

[vernal moth]

Hasn't housing been in a double since basically forever?

[magic river]

I think housing is always in a bubble 😛

Except for maybe the year or two after the last bubble popped

[heady turret]

Bloody hell this is taking ages

[crystal compass]

1.17.1 pre-release

interesting

[left swift]

Bloody hell innit

[mossy vessel]

You can life in my shed. Finished building ~1 week ago. 12 m²

[meager tusk]

What the fuck why is Material UI Theme now paid

[worn ember]

its not

[meager tusk]

The IntelliJ plugin is

[unreal quarry]

mini needs a mini house

[worn ember]

its still free to some degree

[meager tusk]

Says it's a 30 day free trial

[worn ember]

no

[meager tusk]

a lot of options got removed too

that's a bitch move

[worn ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[formal turret]

Gotta make that shmoney

[meager tusk]

I'm fine with that but they should have made new features paid

Not existing ones

[brave quiver]

guys where can i ask questions about papermc

[twin lagoon]

here

[short yarrow]

How would you do locking on objects that are the same class but different instances? Would you create something like private static final Object lock = new Object();?

[heady turret]

From the Battle of the Boyne,
To the carnage of the Somme,
We gave our enemies something to remember,
So bejoves before I go,
I want you all to know,
That Ulster is the land of No Surrender.

[potent fossil]

k

[mossy vessel]

You have no license for copy pastas

[next frost]

Why would you do that? That means the objects have some kind of relation that seems to be pretty odd

[wide chasm]

If you want to lock all objects of a class, that can work.

[meager tusk]

@ashen cliff Bro.

Oracle stole around 20c from you.

[potent fossil]

What's the usecase for locking all instances of a class?

[meager tusk]

They stole 1E from me.

[meager tusk]

I'm not gonna eat today.

[ashen cliff]

Same bro!

[meager tusk]

They said my card was rejected but took my money.

[ashen cliff]

LEGIT TOOK ME 3 HOURS TO FIND OUT HOW TO SWITCH FROM THE LEGACY CONSOLE.

[meager tusk]

I'm gonna starve tonight.

[wide chasm]

But in general you either have some weird relation between objects as ^ mentioned or you're using static, in which case making the static method synchronized also achieves this.

[worn ember]

ok

[formal turret]

Damn no sympathy from ded

[meager tusk]

doesn't using synchronized(Class) also do this

[wide chasm]

Yeah, afaik synchronized on a static method is the same as a synchronized block in there on the class.

[meager tusk]

yep

[short yarrow]

Yeah I don't think I will ever use it, but was just curious. That is a weird relationship though now that you mention it since they probably don't have anything shared

[meager tusk]

if you're doing this just use synchronized(Class)

or if it's a static method as stefvan said just add the synchronized keyword to it

[short yarrow]

Oh that works too. Never knew that

[terse bear]

come on germany

you can win against portugal

you did so well in the first 10 minutes

[meager tusk]

Germany vs France

[terse bear]

hummels...

[night ivy]

May I ask who has used the paper and has some errors?

[terse bear]

#paper-help

[mental meadow]

I'm doing something wrong

Yesterday I had 21.5C in my room with AC, now I have 24.5C

[terse bear]

D:

You're lucky to have an AC

I'm suffering with nothign but a fan

[wispy blade]

24 is slightly above room temp ngl

[terse bear]

1-1 now

lets go

[worn ember]

[mental meadow]

anything above 18C and I can't really do anything

I'm just a unmovable blob in the summer

[terse bear]

:(

I need to have my fan pointing at me

otherwise I melt

[wispy blade]

my room's on the south so it's always hot in here

[mental meadow]

OnlyFans when

[terse bear]

[rich elbow]

[wispy blade]

don't want aurora onlyfans

[potent fossil]

I know I had something else to do today and I can't remember

Nope nevermind I remember

I need a task tracker lmao

[terse bear]

LETS FUCKING GO

[rich elbow]

fridge?

[wispy blade]

i don't have fans i only have noise machines

[night mason]

How many patches have they done

[wispy blade]

lots

[wispy blade]

https://youtu.be/b9tQML1SE9w

[worn ember]

i literally hear nothing lmao

[tall goblet]

same lmfao

[pale robin]

open a window

[tall goblet]

wonder if it's a thing to add an indication what gender you are in the username. no offense to who are doing it but this is new to me

like (he/him) or (she/her)

[potent fossil]

It indicates what pronouns they prefer

[void void]

not that necessary tho

[potent fossil]

That's your opinion

We respect people's choices here

It's really not a debate

[void void]

yeah i agree with that

pls do not ban me

[mental meadow]

It's nice to know how to refer to people

Like I know that when I talk about simple, I use "he"

[potent fossil]

Hmm ok, I suppose stripe has a way to fuck with it without actually using money right?

[true canyon]

It's been around for quite a while, but this past year or so has spiked in popularity in usage.

As for necessity, the internet has a habit of making a assumptions in pronouns and that leads to frustrating conversations for those who don't (by nickname, avatar, whatever) often get assumed correctly. This helps with that.

[potent fossil]

Some sandbox mode

[true canyon]

imple, googling "stripe sandbox" got me - https://stripe.com/docs/testing

[potent fossil]

Nvm yes I'm stupid thx

💋

[blazing quarry]

maybe im stupid but i cant figure out how to attach a block volume to the instance i made

trying to follow the tutorial but it just doesnt work

[potent fossil]

uh, well, can't help you if we dont know what provider you are using

[blazing quarry]

oracle cloud

[potent fossil]

https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/GSG/Tasks/addingstorage.htm

It seems pretty comprehensive to me

[blazing quarry]

do you know if paravirtualized or iscii is the best to use

[potent fossil]

https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Dreary-Xantusmurrelet-6a.png

from what i gather, paravirtualized easier but performance reduced

make your own choice

however the page i linked gives you all the commands necessary for attaching your iscsi volume so lol

[blazing quarry]

oh wow

i dont know why i couldnt find that page you linked earlier

[hot hamlet]

My server has managed to permanently crash a player? Any ideas about this?

[upbeat falcon]

Pastebin

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Requested by BumbleTree · Jun 19, 2021, 5:10 PM

[vernal moth]

They got a dum mod

[blazing quarry]

is your server by any chance 2b2t and your player got furnace banned?

[potent fossil]

Yeah it's their client lol

[hot hamlet]

After restarting my server is when they can no longer join lol

Oof

[worn ember]

NotYourProblem™️

[left swift]

They make it think its ur problem but in reality we were the problem all along!

[potent fossil]

Maybe the real problem was the friends we made along the way

[worn ember]

maybe its a simple problem

[frank otter]

that does sound like a problem

[left swift]

Maybe it's a complex problem

[grand pewter]

Hey dark how is rtp

[left swift]

Darkrtp

[grand pewter]

Negative world height tps

[worn ember]

i cant test rn cuz spigot crashes when rtp'ing lol

[left swift]

Ded eta on negative world height

[grand pewter]

Wat

[worn ember]

it just dies

[grand pewter]

Ok I'll test for you later when I get on

[worn ember]

no clue why

it works fine with tp

but as soon as i rtp i get a bunch of chunk errors and it times out and dies

[wispy blade]

GG

[grand pewter]

Works as intended

[left swift]

New feature

[worn ember]

yeahhh i havent had much time to dig deeper into it, but all the stacktrace points to is bukkit/spigot code

i thought it was related to async chunks first so i tested on spigot but same thing there sooo

no clue

[blazing quarry]

Okay so the volume is attached now i have no idea how to mount it or format it

[restive grove]

h

[frank otter]

is this windows

[potent fossil]

Keep reading the page....

Connecting to the Volume ends with fdisk showing it in the output...and at that point you can use it as a normal block device and format it or do whatever you want with it

[visual veldt]

can someone help me determine the lag issue on my server? I have a timings report.

https://timings.spigotmc.org/?url=ikefafaliz

[twin lagoon]

use paper

[visual veldt]

has paper released a 1.17 version production ready>

[wispy blade]

no

[twin lagoon]

spigot's version isn't production ready either

[blazing quarry]

i just dont know how to make it accessible in ftp or how to put files on it

[frank otter]

vanilla is all that works

if you wanna mount a partition in Linux, use mount

[potent fossil]

once it's in fdisk you can mount it to a location and access it however you want to.

[frank otter]

isn't fdisk a partition tool

[left swift]

Spigots timings sucks bro