server breaks
Everyone: :kekw-1:
#general
abstract aspen
warped goblet
brave radish
There are known bugs in it
warped goblet
brave radish
Larry's in vc rn
formal kindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2acqho2PL4
@swift root xD
swift root
I think I made a good performance there
magic river
Looks like Google is dropping SMT, at least for this instance type
So a vCPU is a real physical core, not half of one being shared
warped goblet
amogus has invaded my name
magic river
AWS Graviton 2 only matches/beats x86 offerings because they compare at equal vCPU counts but that means twice the cores for the ARM instances since the x86 ones are sharing
Now that Google is deploying Milan chips with the same setup (1 vCPU = 1 core) they're back to beating ARM designs quite solidly
Of course they probably still use more power...
Then again maybe not, it's hard to scale up to high frequencies without blowing your power usage way out
potent fossil
yes?
i never said that, but disney is taking down all mentions of loki
which is why i said it was bullshit
viral hornet
magic river
Look at this guy botting it up
robust cave
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
robust cave
BRUHHHH
viral hornet
Yes
I'm always hopeful that people use just the eta command to click on the channel because they're too lazy to scroll
robust cave
Bruh someone teach me how to code, imma single handly make 1.17 paper
viral hornet
Don't break my hopes and dreams, sulu π
waxen panther
ok bigman
olive marlin
Did anyone tried hosting static stuff from public B2 behind CF? It looks like I'd need to get get CF workers to rewrite the URL to the bucket? Or is there some better way to do that?
proper basalt
Bruh someone teach me how to code, imma single handly make 1.17 paper
Lmao
lyric hinge
Did anyone tried hosting static stuff from public B2 behind CF? It looks like I'...
I did that exact thing for a while
olive marlin
In my case I don't want to host a site, need to host data behind it. The main thing is to strip the stupid /files/<bucket-name>/..
twin lagoon
Did anyone tried hosting static stuff from public B2 behind CF? It looks like I'...
yeah use cf workers
tropic flame
based
olive marlin
Ugh, I don't like this CF Worker stuff.
They provide S3 compatible URLs, but if you put it behind CF it breaks and rolls back to being B2 url...
void void
any anti-xray solutions for 1.17 atm?
olive marlin
.xray
olive marlin
It works fine, just need to add new 1.17 blocks
void void
without having to use experimental builds, preferably
olive marlin
Though I wouldn't use it in production yet
twin lagoon
spigot itself is an experimental build
vernal moth
^
vernal moth
Just wait a week or so for paper 1.17.1 and then you can have a nice server
blazing quarry
1.17 is an experimental build
vernal moth
Nah vanilla isnt even that bad
olive marlin
Mini confirms ETA? π³
vernal moth
or so
waxen panther
wink
blazing quarry
it kinda messed up some things in conversion
golden gust
theres like one or two kinda big issues which we need to resolve
void void
is the chest thing fixed yet?
golden gust
at that point it's easier to justify tossing it out and seeing how bad it blows up
No
vernal moth
These remapping issues are haunting my dreams
Speaking about dreams, good night π
golden gust
Just wait until you wake up in the middle of the night with a mysterious fix
vernal moth
Hey I didn't give up yet!
ancient bolt
lol did you find anything of note?
vernal moth
I wanna give it another try tomorrow when I am not ded from work
vernal moth
Nah but didn't look much
ancient bolt
alright, I plan on looking into it more tonight
really need to finish this task for work though..
vernal moth
Yeah, I know that
Clocked in 11 hours at work today
But this project ships on Wednesday then they can all fuck off cause they got no budget anymore
upper flicker
vernal moth
Prod did just recover from that "power outage" aka somebody dismantling the emergency power off and thus setting it off
This project actually skipped staging because I couldn't be arsed to maintain the staging DB
Just partly local, dev env and prod
The software has been installed in prod for months at this point and we just updating, so no integration issues expect
And it's not even going live yet, it's just the end from the tech side, marketing still needs to continue to polish the content that I auto migrated
olive marlin
yeah use cf workers
Backblaze seems to not work for me AT ALL, except with b2 API. π¦
And so can't even test if my crappy JS code for CF worker works...
Why does web stuff have to suck so bad...
And B2 api doesn't let you do unauthenticanted / anonymous requests to public buckets, from what I see.
It seems to hang forever when trying to reach any bucket over S3: http://zzzcat.s3.us-west-002.backblazeb2.com/
lyric hinge
Have a look at the snippet I sent π
olive marlin
But the thing is - why would I auth to a public bucket?
Where is tkn_fetch defined?
Oh, nvm.
ancient bolt
waxen panther
backblaze professional 
ancient bolt
just googled it tbh
olive marlin
@ancient bolt I have a few questions:
- What's the use of public buckets, if I can't use them publicly (without auth).
- Does the s3 compatible urls no longer work?
It just keeps timing out for me :/
Well, I tried retrieving stuff from the api without auth, and it wouldn't give me my bucket.
ancient bolt
@olive marlin no auth needed for public buckets https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/articles/217666928-Using-Backblaze-B2-with-the-Cloudflare-CDN
you'd just need a CF worker to forward the request to the correct URL
olive marlin
I've read that like 3 times already :/
turbid oar
π Hello everyone
olive marlin
According to B2, my endpoint is s3.us-west-002.backblazeb2.com for that bucket. The other bucket doesn't have an endpoint?
ancient bolt
all buckets should have an s3 endpoint
backblaze accounts can only exist on a single cluster, yeah
olive marlin
It only shows the s3 endpoint for me:
ancient bolt
so it will be the same for all buckets in your account - you can create a new account in another cluster, but they will be separate accounts
olive marlin
Ok, I see it now.
But is there a reason I can't just CNAME it to the S3 endpoint and have it work without CF Workers?
ancient bolt
b2 urls will all be the same:
https://f<clusterNum>.backblazeb2.com/file/<bucketName>/<fileName>
i think CNAME behind cloudflare requires the b2 domain, not s3
but I don't know for sure
If you point a CNAME on cloudflare to backblaze then you don't have to pay egress
olive marlin
Great that that was documented, as I just grabbed the endpoint it showed on the bucket.
ancient bolt
because cloudflare and backblaze are in the bandwidth alliance
I don't understand the confusion :\ https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/articles/217666928-Using-Backblaze-B2-with-the-Cloudflare-CDN explains how to find the domain to CNAME
olive marlin
Yeah, will need reverse proxy with CF workers for that.
ancient bolt
CF worker should be on a different subdomain that just transforms the URL to the correct B2 URL (behind your CNAME) and forwards the request
delicate patio
βββ ββπ€
(.)(.)
(|)
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night mason
Lol
olive marlin
If S3 behind CNAME worked properly, then you should be able to?
But it looks like it won't even let me list the contents of the bucket so it's useless anyway.
languid karma
Is AWS good for hosting a private server for me and my friends?
night mason
Anybody wanna help me with a build
golden gust
it's okay but there are cheaper VPSes out there
ancient bolt
But it looks like it won't even let me list the contents of the bucket so it's u...
there used to be a setting for that..
golden gust
I mean, if you're (ab)using the trial i guess it's okay
night mason
Iβm working on my own Jurassic park
blazing quarry
i'm using Oracle Cloud right now
it's ok so far but i've been warned not to buy anything from Oracle
blazing quarry
or if i managed to generate some revenue from my server
willow delta
and i feel like im fine spending that money anyways because the server runs really well
blazing quarry
maybe i should set a milestone for my server
once the money has been reached for a 2 year plan on ovhcloud, i will upgrade
ancient bolt
If S3 behind CNAME worked properly, then you should be able to?
why does it matter that you want to use the S3 API there instead of just the B2 URL?
olive marlin
Just wanted to avoid messing with CF workers and rewriting since AFAIK S3 doesn't need that.
ancient bolt
I just asked (end of work day on friday so I'm surprised I got a response at all) and it seems that the file listing S3 API may not be implemented yet
blazing quarry
is it immoral to profit off a minecraft server?
willow delta
definitely situational
olive marlin
That'd be why S3 seemed broken to me too.
willow delta
i only take money to pay for the monthly cost of my server
blazing quarry
Not p2w but giving donation rewards like colored username and player heads
blazing quarry
how about i make my server a pyramid scheme
and tell users that if they invite more players to my server they will receive a portion of the donations
willow delta
willow delta
i only take money to pay for the monthly cost of my server
also its optional
blazing quarry
what about one single payment to gain access to the server, and the rest is free?
golden gust
the eula allows you to do that
blazing quarry
iirc it's not against the EULA to have a paywall for accessing the server
golden gust
At the end of the day, you're putting hours in to provide a service to others
so long as you abide by the EULA, it's fine
blazing quarry
as long as it's not free for some and costs for other people
well that can be a little dodgy, it needs to be free for myself and perhaps the staff
robust cave
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
robust cave
AHHHHH
olive marlin
UGH, the B2 url doesn't squash duplicate slashes.
But I don't think the RFC requires you to do that, sadly :/
I can't get B2 to return me list of files? It requires exact links?
I guess I can add it to the worker to perform second request?
ancient bolt
the b2 api can list files, not sure what you mean
olive marlin
Calling /files/<bucket> doesn't list files, so I need to catch all 400 and 404 responses, do second call to B2 to list all files starting with what I got and then trim it to upper-most folder required.
ancient bolt
yeah there's no built-in functionality for listing files like that
olive marlin
I was hoping it was gonna put a CNAME and be done with it. And so far I had to put 2 CNAMEs, 2 page rules and write a CF Worker proxy to simulate file listing and retrieving.
I need to check how much GCS costs, because it might be easier and cheaper for me.
ancient bolt
im not sure what you're trying to do but I would have a CF worker call https://www.backblaze.com/b2/docs/b2_list_file_names.html with the given path.
{ "bucketId": "...", "prefix": "<path>", "delimiter": "/" }
That will return { "files": [ { "fileName": "...", ... }, ... ] }, so you'd need a template where you can just insert each file name into the template
olive marlin
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. And adding both version where I either return raw B2 json (for programmatic access) and some very basic HTML for user access.
But I wanted to avoid doing work if I don't need it, because there's better things to do.
Might for now just write everything using B2 SDK and then rewrite it once I figure out that CF Worker crap.
gray niche
any one know how to summon a mob with no AI and does not move around, but can still take Knockback by players.
deep sonnet
Guys when is paper spigot 1.17 releasing? :D
golden gust
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
ancient bolt
But I wanted to avoid doing work if I don't need it, because there's better thin...
yeah that's why I just shove my files behind nginx lol. But that has a lot of limitations B2 doesn't have, so give and take
olive marlin
I was considering putting it behind Caddy and call it a day.
Putting it behind something self-hosted has the issue of me having to figure out some auth method for my scripts to use etc.
glass delta
windows 11 when i run minecraft: "i can't run this shit i'm weak ;-;"
windows 10 when i run minecraft: "FUCK YEAH TIME FOR AIRPLANE FANS"
olive marlin
I just realized that I don't need file listing in automation.
So I'll probably just go with whatever worker I have written.
Thanks Den and sulu for all your help!
merry talon
If you point a CNAME on cloudflare to backblaze then you don't have to pay egres...
has to be limits to this right?
Can I egress 10tb?
robust cave
Iβm going to start crying now
merry talon
potent fossil
tears of the impatient are supremely hydrating
merry talon
proper basalt
I agree with gimple
ancient bolt
there are some accounts that backblaze does lose money on because of this
i mean yeah that's what cloudflare is
merry talon
Don't they have limits if you start doing stupid amounts on the free plan though
like mixtape.moe comes to mind
ancient bolt
if you go too extreme you can get labeled as an abusive account and there are different things they may do to limit it, but you have to be doing some crazy shit to hit that
I'm probably not allowed to give any numbers so that's all I'll say
ancient bolt
right, papers jar get cached on CF due to us having cloudflare pro due to their open source program
normally they would stop caching after a while
merry talon
thinking back to the time I encoded some huge flac as base64 in a .js file and they cached it
that probably falls into the realm of abuse lol
Yeah, all the docs maintain that they only cache the certain filetypes though lol
TIL azure and GCP are in the alliance too
ivory jay
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
ivory jay
(Don't kick me, i m just 2 lazy to search for the issue on github)
ivory jay
it's also linked in <#849485737748594699> btw
thanks
btw, so now we r just waiting 4 people to report 4 bugs and fix them... right?
brave radish
huh?
oh I see
Yeah
There are still some patches that haven't been ported I think but those can also be added after release too
depends on if the devs decide to
ivory jay
depends on if the devs decide to
yeah, in the main time, let's just be patient i guess
cosmic raft
TIL azure and GCP are in the alliance too
alliance?
brave radish
If you wanna help, go download a test build and try to break things π
brave radish
this is a dumb question, but how is git log sorted?
I kind of assumed it was by date
true canyon
this is a dumb question, but how is `git log` sorted?
I kind of assumed it was b...
commit order
Which most likely is in order by date but doesn't have to be and there are plenty of situations where it won't be.
brave radish
such as?
ripe sphinx
paper
true canyon
Merging, cherry-picking, rebasing...
brave radish
Alright so what is the git equivalent of what GitHub shows when you click the commit history?
true canyon
git log
ripe sphinx
I remember I had an alias before that printed the last 20 commit hashes and messages
golden gust
(doesn't technically need to be a has, just needs to point to some commit)
glass delta
why r people in #851516819177209878 when no one's speaking in there 
brave radish
That's when you click the commit; I meant when you click the thing that says like "567 commits"
but apparently that's the same order as git log as per mbax?
true canyon
That's when you click the commit; I meant when you click the thing that says lik...
git log
ripe sphinx
so like a list of the last few commits?
lean kiln
golden gust
--max-count lets you limit it
true canyon
Let's say that you write some code for my plugin, and commit it way back in january, and I continue developing up until now when I notice your commit. I could slap your commit on top of my history, so you'd see a january date on the latest commit and a june date on the one before it.
(also to be clear it technically wouldn't be your commit slapped on top since it wouldn't point at the same parent commit, but I'm simplifying things a bit here)
misty remnant
Hi
true canyon
Hello!
misty remnant
How can i find the papermc 1.17
ripe sphinx
only in unstable alpha
true canyon
.eta
sly night
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
true canyon
See above @misty remnant
brave radish
ok so I know this is a different repo and thus should not match what GitHub shows in the history, but why are the commits in Paper-Server's git-log in no clear order?
misty remnant
Oh thanks
brave radish
it doesn't appear to be the order of patches, nor of date merged
true canyon
What's the first you see on git log, zombie?
brave radish
Fix incorrect status dataconverter for pre 1.13 chunks
by leaf
Date: Mon May 10 15:46:57 2021 -0700
true canyon
When's the last time you updated that folder? Is that possibly the last patch in your patch pile?
brave radish
fresh clone from dev/1.17 today
ripe sphinx
this is git log -20 --oneline in the root paper dir for me https://i.imgur.com/bdjOwjh.png
brave radish
am in Paper-Server
true canyon
Not root dir, _11
ripe sphinx
oh
wind geyser
brave radish
here's a random snippet of commits I see no order in
true canyon
> Fix incorrect status dataconverter for pre 1.13 chunks
by leaf
This is the last patch in the pile.
magic river
fleet sail
I don't know what the dev team was so afraid of my server is working fine in the development version lol
Well not afraid of
But like
Idk what they meant cause everything is fine
unreal quarry
just wait until your chests disappear ^_^
fleet sail
Wdym
fleet sail
Like the entire block or just the contents
unreal quarry
both
fleet sail
Well I've unloaded and reloaded many chunks with chests and other te's in it and nothing bad happened
Oh wait I had it on spigot not paper that explains that well i guess I'll just wait then
ivory jay
btw guys, is there any alternative to pterodactyl that can support windows and is free?
golden gust
not really
proud lance
AMP maybe?
golden gust
windows is such a niche platform for running a server on, and linux has all the tools to make it often trivial to setup or handle it
not free
proud lance
is it not?
golden gust
I guess free for a few players
ripe sphinx
I run pterodactyl on windows using docker and it's fine
proud lance
I was wondering if that would work as well
ripe sphinx
yeah I haven't had any issues with it
brave radish
its happening to everyone
unless your name is zzzCat apparently
golden gust
Yea, but, now you're running everything in WSL which is pretty scurry
I found out why I couldn't reproduce it and we've found the general area
unreal quarry
unless your name is `zzzCat` apparently
we just need to get on cat's level π
unreal quarry
idk if i can fit on your cat perch, though
brave radish
late, cat
that fix has already been implemented
And they do save right on server stop so it works if you have all the RAM and CPU in existence π€·ββοΈ
unreal quarry
i have to ask, though. what is butt metal? lol
golden gust
I was gonna do a billys wife joke, but, then I just remembered that she's already got enough to deal with
unreal quarry
lmfao
ripe sphinx
hey folks I'm curious, what do you guys use to color patch files?
cunning raft
wdym
grand pewter
crayons
ripe sphinx
- in IJ, guess I should have been more specific lol
golden gust
some text editors have color schemes but very few care to bother with diff files so many generally don't care to actually color them
cunning raft
IJ doesn't color them by default iirc
true canyon
I put a thin film over my monitor and use highlighters
ripe sphinx
I've seen a bunch of the devs on stream have patch files colored though so I know it's possible
lol
grand pewter
i mean i just do it in the terminal usually
golden gust
I heard that cling film works on a budget
grand pewter
git diff command
true canyon
We let them out for a brief snack.
grand pewter
@ripe sphinx ya i just double checked it definitely colors them in terminal in intellij (for me)
so theres 1 way at least
golden gust
that's because git itself uses colors
golden gust
assuming you just ran a git command in the terminal or something?
grand pewter
yep
ripe sphinx
yeah IJ's diff tool is wonderful
golden gust
yea, git itself has the colors
ripe sphinx
but I mean like .patch files like in paper
golden gust
Issue is that text editors generally don't
probs easier to just apply the patch and view it in git
ripe sphinx
now that paperweight is a thing I can actually kinda contribute, so poking around and getting a feel for the project
golden gust
maybe those random git tools can load a patch and preview it
I mean, we have 800 server patches there abouts
viewing individual git commits is generally done in IJ when you actually spot the line you care about
you don't touch the patch files themselves generally
restive bay
hi hi
void void
yo guys
do you happen to know any plugin that link 2 portals through signs? Like this one
ripe sphinx
yeah I'm just poking through the nms files and when I see an interesting patch message in git blame I'm seeing what else the patch does
although I guess I can use the commit diff viewer for that can't I 
restive bay
is there a role for pronouns or do i just use /nick
ripe sphinx
/nick
restive bay
thanks
unreal quarry
I put a thin film over my monitor and use highlighters
true canyon
glances to the left at the camera
ripe sphinx
side note dear god mojang's code is a mess
pseudo jungle
is there a place we can see bugs/problems people testing the new paper build are running into?
pseudo jungle
oo cool thanks!
brave radish
do you have to post that again?
placid lion
h
dull linden
yatopia discontinued woah
proud lance
what a surprise
spiral robin
Yatopia is gone π¦
round field
grand pewter
community? you mean 0.1% of people XD
dusk drift
Sick of people saying my plugins are borked
when running it
its more than you think
grand pewter
yeah for sure
dusk drift
sadly
grand pewter
to clarify what i meant was the screenshot probably wasnt necessary, not that its banned to talk about forks here anyway
just extra drama lol
idk anyways
potent fossil
me seeing the news: ok anyway
grand pewter
ya its all good till the chests disappear
potent fossil
pale robin
i got backups lol
foggy veldt
One day I will open up discord and I wonβt see the nagatoro chick as someoneβs pfp in every server
broken rampart
community? you mean 0.1% of people XD
2% according to bstats
ivory jay
man 1.17 sucks.... [Terra] Could not set generator for default world 'world': Plugin 'Terra v4.0.0-BETA+213182e java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: No such config pack "DEFAULT"
void void
potent fossil
thanks czhang, you suck too
swift root
simple that was just completely uncalled for
1.17 does, at the moment, suck for server users :DDD
potent fossil
fallen oracle
Yeah cause muh dang Sodium no work.
potent fossil
You still should NOT USE THIS FOR YOUR SERVER.
I'm so full rn, we went to a teppanyaki grill and bruh
gilded raven
sup
cough
just change the maximum # of minecarts that u can place on a single block or something
single rail*
golden gust
I just killed carts if there was so many collisions between some over a tick or something
void void
lmao
left swift
Interesting
Anytime someone mentions yatopia the billy comment always makes me chuckle
vapid birch
I just found out about Yatopia- kinda tragic π
And I also never knew there were forks of Tuinity
That kinda surprised me
golden gust
!ban @void void spam
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned Ivano the Alien#7902 (spam) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.
warm anchor
naomi nooooo
golden gust
I heard that that's her fave thing to look at, but, just rumours you know
void void
To make a plugin work in java16 . We just have to recompile it or i have to edit that plugin
golden gust
depends on how it broke
thorny totem
lol 1.17.1-pre1. I don't know if they will change the protocol version or stay as current (like in 1.16.4)
quasi valley
change
void void
Ah i am not a plugin developer
uncut ginkgo
is there any specific date to when is the release?
warm anchor
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
warm anchor
no @uncut ginkgo
void void
But i want to make a plugin work in 1.17
uncut ginkgo
damn
warm anchor
But i want to make a plugin work in 1.17
You can already make plugin work.
oh he is probably user not dev nvm
uncut ginkgo
anyone give me a short explanation on how to code a plugin B)
warm anchor
You learn Java
You make plugin
@uncut ginkgo
quasi valley
thank you eternity, very cool
dry mauve
hi guys. was wondering what host you recomment for minecraft servers. im based in asia-pacific and am having a rough time
warm anchor
hi guys. was wondering what host you recomment for minecraft servers. im based i...
there is no good host in Asia, OVH has a DC in Singapore. There are host in JP but will require you to be a JP residence
uncut ginkgo
You learn Java
You make plugin
<@!600018427004059653>
the first plugin i ever made was something that said the ____ you to you when you add it
warm anchor
wow very cool
dry mauve
there is no good host in Asia, OVH has a DC in Singapore. There are host in JP b...
i crie
uncut ginkgo
thank you for the best explanation B)
exotic siren
how to make plugin wihtout coding?!!!!!!!??
lime oak
$$$$$
warm anchor
how to make plugin wihtout coding?!!!!!!!??
first have a small amount of money say $1000~5000 then you hire someone who can code to do it for you
prepare a bit more if you want the plugin to be actively maintained
uncut ginkgo
whats the most cheapest thing i can get for a server host then B)
ashen cliff
Oracle Always Free if you have a soul to sell.
warm anchor
whats the most cheapest thing i can get for a server host then B)
You will need to be 18+ having a credit card or have a way to convince your mom to give you her card
uncut ginkgo
time to go ask satan
ashen cliff
Asking satan to make a deal with satan. Very cool.
exotic siren
sad that they don't accept debit card :(
ashen cliff
Visa Giftcards still exist.
warm anchor
sad that they don't accept debit card :(
They do or at least the Debit card all has a VISA or Master network endorsed 
ashen cliff
Probably the most epic thing that exists.
uncut ginkgo
im pretty sure like you can get a credit card you just have to have a guardian or somthing unless im wrong
warm anchor
time to ask your mom!
uncut ginkgo
im too timid
golden gust
for just testing, easy to just host a server on your own machine unless you're on a toaster
ashen cliff
MFW I still have that old Oracle work account. 
warm anchor
no no no zcat we gotta teach the younglings how to do basic linux admin thingy!!
mellow quiver
for your information my razer toaster can handle a minecraft server perfectly well
golden gust
there are free hosts but generally kinda trash and limited, but for testing, if you can upload jars and join π€·ββοΈ
willow delta
i use OVH for my actual server and my own computer to test
warm anchor
one is super limited. The other one doesnt even allow you to alter yml file and/or add custom plugins.
so yeah
next frost
plucky sparrow
https://posili.me/i/2021-06-19_10-23-28.png
there's still amsterdam
warm anchor
https://posili.me/i/2021-06-19_10-23-28.png
yeah I got US East node worked. My friend got JPN worked and my other freind tried again in Tokyo and it was full
the wording makes it looks like they are adding more capacity. It just tells you the current A1 ARM based are full and you should wait for it to be refilled.
next frost
I think I got a Frankfurt one
warm anchor
it's a pretty nice testing instance.
next frost
yeah I mean for a free machine it's pretty neat
warm anchor
I've delete the instance and reprovisioned like 4 times already
ashen cliff
Ah yes. So you can't use a VISA Prepaid.
plucky sparrow
neither MasterCard prepaid
warm anchor
very fast and you can litearlly fuck everything up and restore boot volume lol
plucky sparrow
They don't allow prepaids
ashen cliff
Epic. They took 1β¬ and returned 85c.
meager tusk
<https://blogs.oracle.com/developers/how-to-set-up-and-run-a-really-powerful-fre...
Fuck.
mellow quiver
why can't you use a prepaid?
plucky sparrow
Epic. They took 1β¬ and returned 85c.
LOL
warm anchor
Epic. They took 1β¬ and returned 85c.
lmao
mellow quiver
I thought sites weren't meant to be able to tell the difference between prepaid and normal card
meager tusk
Epic. They took 1β¬ and returned 85c.
Get fucked.
warm anchor
they took $1 an refund $1 for me
plucky sparrow
They sadly do detect the difference
meager tusk
wait so is this like
ashen cliff
Get fucked.
BRO! That's like 3% of your MONTHLY PAY BRO!
warm anchor
ALWAYS FREE
meager tusk
YO?
native wolf
Epic. They took 1β¬ and returned 85c.
Now we need to make a KGB version
meager tusk
Might cop one.
warm anchor
grab one if you want something to fuck with
warm anchor
meager tusk
No Kosovo option in the countries.
plucky sparrow
Bold of you to assume a lady would like to be grabbed by you
meager tusk
Bold of you to assume a lady would like to be grabbed by you
True. This free host will do.
exotic siren
What about the free 300$ credit thingy
plucky sparrow
that's for not Always Free products
the Ampere A1 instances are always free
somehow
warm anchor
What about the free 300$ credit thingy
You can use them all during first 30 days afte you sign up
ashen cliff
Actually hold up.
warm anchor
however anything that you paid for using the $300 credit will be disabled once your 30 day ends @exotic siren that's separate from the free tier
ashen cliff
They took 1β¬, after that they took 0,85β¬ and only after that returned 1β¬.
warm anchor
Actually hold up.
the 0.85 one is likely a mistake it will not be final lol
otherwise you just make some money!
ashen cliff
Might get them back later.
warm anchor
@ashen cliff bro!
ashen cliff
KVM BRO!
willow delta
bro!
void void
there is no good host in Asia, OVH has a DC in Singapore. There are host in JP b...
There are
warm anchor
@void void give me examples so I can do some reasearch
lime oak
@dry mauve talk to that legendary guy he seems to know what you're looking for ^
dry mauve
ty @lime oak
void void
<@456226577798135808> give me examples so I can do some reasearch
Witherhosting
warm anchor
last I checked they are a budget MC host not a really good one
ashen cliff
Bro!
void void
Apex hosting
meager tusk
Kosovo problems.
ashen cliff
Kosovo problems.
Legit bro. Had to use my UK VISA.
void void
From Microsoft or something
warm anchor
Their Asia node is basically what I have rn (OVH i7 7700k) @void void they resell it
dry mauve
how is shockbyte as a host btw?
warm anchor
coz ovh doesnt have any new one in Singapore
bold moat
hi
twin lagoon
Idriz!
warm anchor
@dry mauve budget host. Your milage varies
twin lagoon
Bro!
meager tusk
Bro!
ashen cliff
Mihajel!
warm anchor
GOOD MORNING MICHAEL
ashen cliff
MiΔo.
nova hatch
ugh
dry mauve
<@!117057129797517312> budget host. Your milage varies
can you give me an example of a nonbudget host?
nova hatch
its weird to play fnf for hours
twin lagoon
dry mauve
ty. ill look into these. will they perform better than budget hosts that have asia server?
warm anchor
can you give me an example of a nonbudget host?
if you are 18+ and with credit card, check what me and Krusic talked about on top. Oracle Free Tier if it's just small server with several friends.
bold moat
who can help me with minecraft protocol? I have one question about PacketPlayOutLightUpdate
Or where can I ask?
meager tusk
if you are 18+ and with credit card, check what me and Krusic talked about on to...
Gonna use it for a 500 player server.
You mad?
warm anchor
ty. ill look into these. will they perform better than budget hosts that have as...
most if not all Asia server are all just OVH resell
dry mauve
if you are 18+ and with credit card, check what me and Krusic talked about on to...
im looking at about 30ish ppl at a time
plucky sparrow
The card KEEPS GETTING DECLINED.
oh gl your account will be banned
warm anchor
try bloom if they have USwest then @dry mauve
meager tusk
oh gl your account will be banned
Maybe.
plucky sparrow
and it takes support ten years to answer and another 10 to unban it
based on previous experience
dry mauve
ayt, ill look into bloom now
meager tusk
Does Oracle have offices in Kosovo?
ashen cliff
They have offices in Slovenia!
warm anchor
the 8GB plan should be enough right?
yes
void void
@warm anchor hostinger
warm anchor
I've moved out of asia for too long but yeah if you do have any other site to suggest lol @void void
void void
dry mauve
wish i could check my ping to their locations
plucky sparrow
<@177150983258767360> hostinger
LMOA
dry mauve
coz bloom currently only has germany available
plucky sparrow
omg i remember their free web hosting
warm anchor
coz bloom currently only has germany available
it's summer time so it's the msot busy time for Minecraft hosting
plucky sparrow
2gb storage
warm anchor
@void void if you have any that only support non-English, let me know as well
I can read Chinese and Japanese aside from English
void void
Shockbyte is goof tbh
void void
u must have good resource
dry mauve
ive got 200ish ping to bloom servers
i think we can live with that. as long as i can get consistent 20 tps
exotic siren
<@!219443401974611970> bro!
Is that a always free instance?
warm anchor
yes @exotic siren
exotic siren
yes <@!335654844272738306>
what's its cpu?
warm anchor
what's its cpu?
Arm Ampere A1 oCPU
plucky sparrow
the ampere a1 is surprisingly fast
twin lagoon
void void
Actually i am dev of american ytber so i should see American hosting rather than Indian
warm anchor
I know t here are Chinese host say in Taiwan
plucky sparrow
either way america is the best place for hosting imo
void void
Whats good host for america
warm anchor
Whats good host for america
same 2 I suggested but US also has a lot of good dedi provider
Ovh is CHEAP any other solution is expensive lol
dry mauve
@warm anchor would the performance 8gb plan for bloom be enough you think?
twin lagoon
america is expensive
void void
same 2 I suggested but US also has a lot of good dedi provider
Bruh a vps is enough we dont need a dedi
plucky sparrow
Los Angeles adds an extra 50-100 bucks monthly on Google Cloud
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> would the performance 8gb plan for bloom be enough you th...
yes it is fine. you say maybe 20 that should be enough.
plucky sparrow
very cheap
dry mauve
maybe 30ish ppl max
warm anchor
Bruh a vps is enough we dont need a dedi
ovh vs hetzner
but for Minecraft you really want Dedi > (good) shared host > vps
coz vps usually aint the newest CPU
dry mauve
would it be enough to have plugins and still run at 20 tps?
warm anchor
try and see. and likely it will be ok.
dry mauve
im looking to migrate my server out of shockbyte
warm anchor
unless you want to run stuff like Slimefun
dry mauve
because man the tps sucks
dry mauve
im looking at towny, mcmmo, bountyhunters, + the usuals like luckperms, vault, discordsrv
not too much
dry mauve
do you know their server ip by any chance? wanna check my ping to them real quick
also, i just tried to pick a plan from dedicatedmc and only germany is available
twin lagoon
they have a ping test
warm anchor
You have to look at other plans
dry mauve
yeah i cant find the ping test
void void
ovh vs hetzner
but for Minecraft you really want Dedi > (good) shared host > vps...
Ovh provides shared hosting?
ashen cliff
tfw Michael out here pinging the host owner
What else did you expect from a Discord Verified Mod?
dry mauve
yeah i picked the 8gb one which has US locations listed
dry mauve
but i thin theyre full up as well
twin lagoon
what
ashen cliff
I also like how they didn't test the new design with people who removed all their badges: https://posili.me/i/2021-06-19_11-06-04.png
warm anchor
wow man BIG profile pic
ashen cliff
BIG!
vernal moth
works here
ashen cliff
Are you in the saturation beta?
dry mauve
sorry for the bother @warm anchor but im seriously considering bloom now and in the options, they only had paper vanilla or forge. does that mean im limited to only those server jars? was hoping to try out 1.17 spigot
void void
How to make minecraft use all cores
dry mauve
or can i change it in their control panel
void void
dry mauve
once the server set up
warm anchor
sorry for the bother <@!177150983258767360> but im seriously considering bloom n...
You can upload custom
dry mauve
time to get my players a better minecraft life lol
warm anchor
They also have a discord
warm anchor
plucky sparrow
I also like how they didn't test the new design with people who removed all thei...
looks fine for me
twin lagoon
krusic is on the balkan discord branch
ashen cliff
Fact!
twin lagoon
daily reminder:
twin lagoon
yes but don't
void void
yes but don't
What u want to all 5 server on same core
twin lagoon
don't
mental meadow
Mom said it's my time to have the core
void void
vernal moth
paper requires more than just one core
ashen cliff
Mom said it's my time to hog the entire core for 10 hours.
void void
paper requires more than just one core
Paper does multithreading?
vernal moth
of course
warm anchor
mental meadow
Minecraft does multithreading
vernal moth
dude
void void
ashen cliff
Bruh.
static badge
pepperlaughs
vernal moth
I literally spend the last week looking at this server code, I think I kinda know what I am talking about
ashen cliff
Spot the people who don't understand how the server works: /s
https://posili.me/i/2021-06-19_11-16-56.png
static badge
no you don't shut up
vernal moth
no you don't shut up
well, I don't claim to be at your elvel ^^
limpid comet
i wonder how you could've figured that one out
ashen cliff
well, I don't claim to be at your elvel ^^
Leaf just wakes up and syncs stuff.
static badge
I was referring to the fact that you're german
void void
Then why do people say minecraft is single threaded
warm anchor
pepperlaughs
Go work on patch 
void void
twin lagoon
main server tick loop is one thread
vernal moth
Then why do people say minecraft is single threaded
ppl are incredibly dum and listen to youtubers who have by definition not a single clue
mental meadow
wasn't there a super long rage thread on spigot a few days ago about that topic
I remember something
warm anchor
Spot the people who don't understand how the server works: /s
https://posili.me/...
Aurora not core team yet obv she doesnβt now anything! /s
void void
So should i get ovh 16gb ram 8 core plan
twin lagoon
avoid VPS
vernal moth
wasn't there a super long rage thread on spigot a few days ago about that topic
yes it was a clusterfuck by ivan https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/rant-minecraft-is-not-single-threaded.462694/
mental meadow
Ah
ashen cliff
Ivane Brate!
vernal moth
a VPS is fine if you get dedicated resources
mental meadow
If you're going to spend money then get a dedicated server
ashen cliff
a VPS is fine if you get dedicated resources
Sorry bro. We don't do that here.
void void
If you're going to spend money then get a dedicated server
Dedi are expensive
warm anchor
For a reason!
mental meadow
Yeah but if you're going to pay 35β¬/m for a OVH VPS there are better dedicated servers at the same price
ashen cliff
Contabo.
mental meadow
Like if you spend that much money already get a dedi
vernal moth
Sorry bro. We don't do that here.
idk about your balkan host but germany quality hosting gmbh offers me an VPS with dedicates cores π
mental meadow
Mom said it's my time to play with the core
shell vine
soyoustart is cheap af
void void
Yeah but if you're going to pay 35β¬/m for a OVH VPS there are better dedicated s...
Vps would 30$ per month and dedi starts from 50$ , game dedi from 100$
**same price **
?
shell vine
$42 game dedi from soyoustart
meager tusk
idk about your balkan host but germany quality hosting gmbh offers me an VPS wit...
Most confident wsterner talking about his wstern hosting
KGBHosting forever @ashen cliff.
mental meadow
Look at soyoustart or kimsufi or how it is called
ashen cliff
Fact!
warm anchor
Thatβs more than enough yesh!
dapper rose
J
warm anchor
No VAT in US
void void
https://gyazo.com/d9ab6d248f366a5fe0329eb9118f1bf1
Link pls
shell vine
no it would not be ideal for bungee unless you only had like 2
3 would be pushing it imo
shell vine
if you have over 100 players you could easily afford a good dedi
unless you are not monetizing at all
void void
Single Bunge cant handle it ?
@shell vine
shell vine
idk what that means
vernal moth
it's an OVH reseller
its ovh. just their old products.
void void
https://gyazo.com/d9ab6d248f366a5fe0329eb9118f1bf1
This plan
shell vine
idk what you mean by "bungee cant handle it"
vernal moth
same with kimsufi, also an ovh brand
void void
idk what you mean by "bungee cant handle it"
i mean can a single 1 bungecord instance handle 100 players 3 gamemodes
shell vine
yea easily
thats not what you were asking about
you cant just put 3 bungeecords on 1 machine and expect it to be better
rotund cargo
same with kimsufi, also an ovh brand
Funfact: Kimsufi can be heard as "Qui me suffit" in French (ovh being french) and it means "Enough for me"
shell vine
with 4 busy gamemodes and bungee, you would probably want two of those dedis
to run comfortably
if you actually have 100 players
twin lagoon
@warm anchor 
shell vine
and thats still only $85 a month thats nothing
twin lagoon
twin lagoon
Funfact: Kimsufi can be heard as "Qui me suffit" in French (ovh being french) an...
that's a pretty interesting fact ngl
meager tusk
weebs
twin lagoon
Idriz!
warm anchor
meager tusk
What do we do to the weebs bro?!
warm anchor
What do we do to the weebs bro?!
You join bro!
@quasi valley hello join my server uwu
quasi valley
twin lagoon
kenny you know you want to join eternity's server
quasi valley
I'm not joining the weebs eitherway, mfw
ashen cliff
What do we do to the weebs bro?!
Bro. I would say it bro. But instant ban bro!
warm anchor
Not yet
quasi valley
I see too many usages of the forbidden word here already
warm anchor
Kneny will join. I believe
mental meadow
kneny when he joins
meager tusk
Bro. I would say it bro. But instant ban bro!
Fact!
warm anchor
Lol
wispy blade
waiting at the chocolaterie because only 3 people are allowed in
minor badge
@warm anchor 
warm anchor
<@177150983258767360> <a:ameowcomfywave:768479935069028372>
Goood moring Mari
wispy blade
mari cute
warm anchor
mental meadow
phoenix616, suggestion for is.papr.best: Use 
when the mouse is far away, 
if the mouse get's closer and when the mouse touches
warm anchor
The technology is not ready to take this much cuteness aurorororora
umbral tiger
<@!158577328874586112> where did your ping test go
hiyaaaa
void void
π¬
umbral tiger
we're redoing it
umbral tiger
can still ping the addresses yourself tho
ashen cliff
Redo it faster bro!
mental meadow
Also I think it is illegal to contain Paper-chan within 128x128 pixels, you should use https://auri.gay/top-secret for the full res pictures phoenix
umbral tiger
ger.dedimc.io, fin.dedimc.io, la.dedimc.io, fin.dedimc.io, ny.dedimc.io
those are the addresses it pings π
umbral tiger
Redo it faster bro!
wooooorking on it
mental meadow
dedi
ashen cliff
Very good.
mental meadow
daddymc.io
void void
uwu π π π βΉοΈ π£
mental meadow
I'm disappointed that it just redirects to your homepage
But at least we get 15% discount
warm anchor
https://daddymc.io you say? π
I am using this for my future host suggestion now
void void
and thats still only $85 a month thats nothing
Nothing ._.
warm anchor
umbral tiger
I am using this for my future host suggestion now
yw 
mental meadow
same
umbral tiger
I'm disappointed that it just redirects to your homepage
lol should make a spinoff site
meager tusk
I think I've finally done it.
mental meadow
I'd do it for free
mental meadow
smh no more promo code michael
twin lagoon
mental meadow
500 clients switching to hetzner tomorrow
warm anchor
Can we get a paperchan promote code. I will make sure to bring paper chan lover to you
shell vine
100% off pls
void void
Can i get some feedback for some name ideas for a towny server?
twin lagoon
if it has the name towny in it
void void
dm me if you're able to
shell vine
HonkMC
void void
it doesn't
warm anchor
Can i get some feedback for some name ideas for a towny server?
CraftHonk
mental meadow
TownCraf
warm anchor
Honkers @void void
void void
Fated Vale
Fated Valley
Fated Reach
Fated Realms
Fated Springs
Fated Meadow
Fated Abyss
Fated Isles
Fated Dynasty
Which one of these rings the best?
shell vine
Honkers <@456226577798135808>
now we are getting somewhere 
void void
honker craft
mental meadow
Fated Isles sounds cool
warm anchor
Honker Vale
Honker Valley
Honker Reach
HonkerRealms
Honker Springs
Honker Meadow
HonkerAbyss
Honker Isles
Honker Dynasty
The last one honestly sounds very epic
void void
Fated Isles sounds cool
I agree one of my top 3 atleast
the word combine list i made tho lmao
ashen cliff
Empire Craft.
void void
i'd rather play roblox than naming my server mc or craft
shell vine
ashen cliff
Aikar just got clapped.
candid spindle
candid spindle
Minidigger
void void
native wolf
KGB Network
twin lagoon
i want to watch
pretty sure most of them are over
candid spindle
what livestreams are they talking about on the github?
minidigger does some streams
oblique kiln
:(
mental meadow
what livestreams are they talking about on the github?
we streamed the development live, see the twitch links in #β-1-17
vernal moth
am gonna stream in a few minutes
oblique kiln
we streamed the development live, see the twitch links in <#849485737748594699>
oh thanks
mental meadow
what are you going to stream mini
candid spindle
am gonna stream in a few minutes
Like this one
mental meadow
Oh btw Mini I got my second dose 2 days ago, yesterday in the evening I almost died but besides that it was fine π
vernal moth
trying to build some software that can test how good our mappings are by comparing the members of our reobf jar to spigots jar
biontech?
oblique kiln
is there any eta for 1.17 paper release?
vernal moth
no