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[swift root]

!ban @void void help-vampire trolling nonstop - asking questions and mocking those who answer

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned v1per1sh#2994 (help-vampire trolling nonstop - asking questions and mocking those who answer) [1 total infraction] -- Larry#6086.

[somber onyx]

@solid moat which games you will play with your pc ?

[swift root]

Not going to keep that going, thanks.

[viscid wedge]

lmao

[coarse marlin]

are we human, or are we just string chester

[viscid wedge]

took long enough

[minor badge]

@swift root hellooo

[swift root]

And I quote "even though I'm trolling them they're still nice"

[warm anchor]

famous last word in my DM

[coarse marlin]

was prob a chatbot.

[swift root]

Sadnada?

[viscid wedge]

give me in dm yes

I pay many good coin for your service

[magic river]

[warm anchor]

asking for advice
First question about country
Never answered... that's like the most important part due to prices

[swift root]

All they were doing was trolling

[viscid wedge]

Low quality bait

[swift root]

Also was definitely intentional, not just being dumb

[warm anchor]

trolling is a form of wanting attention.. so yeah

[viscid wedge]

dent in brain style

[swift root]

I got that bit when they said they were trolling us...

[warm anchor]

its similar to the young people you see here talking about stuff that no one asked ._.

[wispy blade]

if i wanted attention i'd ping everyone

[viscid wedge]

My man has lissencephaly

[warm anchor]

I mean it's so common people make emojis like this

LOL

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/LexManos/status/1404648681370906624?s=19

LexManos (@LexManos)

So, turns out Eclipse doesn't support J16 language level.. This'll be fun... Hope it comes in 2021-06...

Twitter · Jun 15, 2021, 3:55 AM

Poor lex

[swift root]

Heh

[viscid wedge]

bizarre

eclipse OpenJ9 exists for J16

But not the ide?

[wispy blade]

using eclipse in 2021

[meager tusk]

That's weird, I could have sworn it's an option

[icy osprey]

I started using VS code for Java.... and I know I gonna get shit for that in here.... probably

[meager tusk]

Had to use it for an assignment a bit back

[meager tusk]

Whatever works for you best works

[icy osprey]

I used to use eclipse before...

[viscid wedge]

With all due respect, nobody cares. Use whatever editor

They all do the same thing at the end of the day

[wispy blade]

i love vscode but cba to set it up for java kekw

[icy osprey]

Yeah but some people really LOVE their IDE... and refuse to let anyone else use anything else than it

[meager tusk]

Objectively I feel more productive using IJ but there's people who are very productive using Eclipse or Netbeans or BlueJ if you're into that

[viscid wedge]

I use neovim

[icy osprey]

I used intellij for kotlin, but that's all

[coarse marlin]

i just use notepad, the pipeline will take care of it

[meager tusk]

iOS notes.

[vernal moth]

Vscode isn't on the same level with intellij, eclipse or netbeans. It's a glorified text editor, but relay good at that. I us it daily, but would never use it for java

[viscid wedge]

using awk as a text editor

[icy osprey]

did you try with the Java extension?

[viscid wedge]

[vernal moth]

How else?

It just doesn't come even close to a full blown IDE with inspections and refactorings and stuff

[meager tusk]

I use vscode for small edits usually

[vernal moth]

Ye

[icy osprey]

works fine for the simple java stuff I do like making plugins and stuff ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[meager tusk]

Oh for sure

I just don't think I could use it for bigger projects i tend to work on

[icy osprey]

I use it for most of the other stuff I do with like platformIO and also nodejs projects

[viscid wedge]

did you guys see that one insane fabric modder who made a language adapter for fucking rust

[icy osprey]

so it's easier for me to look at the same thing in regards to IDE

[blazing quarry]

Nice

[icy osprey]

The intellisense is better than in eclipse for me though

[fathom peak]

Hi

[waxen panther]

Hello! #❗-1-17

[swift root]

Love it

[waxen panther]

I think it's a pretty safe shot in the dark

[swift root]

Yup

[icy osprey]

@true canyon thanks for the recommendation this is funny af

[edgy flax]

how does the core team wade through all that code theres so much to see jeez.

[swift root]

Skills

[coarse marlin]

lots of carrots

[wispy blade]

there's line numbers and file names in the patch files

[icy osprey]

Ever see one those hamster wheels?

[nocturne agate]

Does anyone still use atom?

[feral nebula]

Heyo

[icy osprey]

yeah sometimes, but not for an IDE

[meager tusk]

The maintainers and a couple hundred people

[icy osprey]

oh

[edgy flax]

true that that looks like years of computer engineering to me

[wispy blade]

Atom looks... interesting

[icy osprey]

Personally I think that programming takes more persistence and patience than skills...... and I program daily...

[swift root]

yes...

i agree...

[icy osprey]

there a flat spot from the wall on my head....

[nocturne agate]

Atom with the right plugins is quit good. Not the best tho

[signal bough]

Waterfall for 1.17 ?

[wispy blade]

yes

[icy osprey]

It works really good as a text editor.

[coarse marlin]

atom is nice. it does lot..

[wispy blade]

gnu nano tho

cant beat that

[nocturne agate]

Vim master race

[wispy blade]

[icy osprey]

at least you not one those vim maxis

oh...

XD

[nocturne agate]

Vim is the best mate, I use arch btw

[merry talon]

I mean vscode is just the successor to atom in every perceiveable way

so there's no reason to use it really

[nocturne agate]

I find vscode a tad bit bloated

[merry talon]

wat

compared to atom?

[wispy blade]

it's made by microsoft lmao

ofc its bloaty

[merry talon]

So is atom

[nocturne agate]

Isn’t atom owned my Microsoft now?

Lol

[icy osprey]

this intellisense is loads better than the last time I tried to use atom as an IDE

[nocturne agate]

I code in go, python, an node so atom is more then enough for me

[feral nebula]

Here we go....

First sweep

[merry talon]

You say good enough referring to the heavier of the two

[nocturne agate]

In my personal experience vscode performs slower for me

[wispy blade]

anecdotal evidence g

[nocturne agate]

Nope I don’t think I do lol

16

[wispy blade]

ram doesnt really do anything for program startup

that's a disk read request

[icy osprey]

It would probably be more to how well the devs of vscode/atom did threading and your CPU

[nocturne agate]

Atom uses electron right?

[icy osprey]

idk but vscode does

they are?

[merry talon]

uuuuuhh

[nocturne agate]

Rlly?

[icy osprey]

that is hard to believe

[nocturne agate]

Doubt

[icy osprey]

atom is single?

that is even hard to believe

[swift root]

Do you happen to have a source on that

[wispy blade]

pics or fake

[merry talon]

[citation needed]

[waxen panther]

you dont know what ur talking about

[icy osprey]

show docs to proove it

I think you found intel atom

lol

[waxen panther]

bruh

[icy osprey]

yeah you found the intel atom

[warm anchor]

smh my head.

[waxen panther]

im hemorrhaging iq rn

[warm anchor]

You know that trying to be smart in a discord full of computer nerd is a bad idea?

[icy osprey]

Show proof

[wispy blade]

the IDE or the CPU

[nocturne agate]

I rlly doubt that

[warm anchor]

[merry talon]

This server needs to be deleted immediately

[feral nebula]

Anyone heard anything regarding protocollib and holographic displays

[warm anchor]

We just need Larry to verify their age

[warm anchor]

yes you can get the first hand information from their page.

[swift root]

hm

@dusty mesa how old are you

[nocturne agate]

Did he not say he was 13 yesterday

[viral hornet]

yes

[warm anchor]

LOL

[nocturne agate]

Close enough

[wispy blade]

"i make mod before it's on curseforge"

[feral nebula]

So just go to their spigot page?

[viral hornet]

correct

[void void]

Depends on where you live

:p

[viral hornet]

it's the second line on protocollibs spigot page 🙂

[icy osprey]

Wait.... I feel dumb... We know they are nodejs apps...

both of em...

[void void]

In the glorious Netherlands it’s 16+

Europe?

EU?

[warm anchor]

Discord still have to follow the local laws yes.

[icy osprey]

Node. js is a proper multi-threaded language just like Java.

[waxen panther]

f me

[void void]

China?

[icy osprey]

So both atom and vscode are multithreaded

[wispy blade]

node.js more like nope.js

[nocturne agate]

India?

[merry talon]

This is literally false

[void void]

where

[icy osprey]

Is it?

[swift root]

https://i.imgur.com/Py3Ef1F.png

[warm anchor]

Sweepy is losing it rn

[merry talon]

Node is not multithreaded

Concurrent sure

[nocturne agate]

Deno > node

[icy osprey]

Even with workers?

[merry talon]

Oh jesus christ

[warm anchor]

something doesnt add up!

[icy osprey]

I want to mess with deno

[swift root]

lying to mods needs to be a capital offense

ban reason perjury

[void void]

no

[blazing quarry]

I'm at work, any ideas for podcasts to listen to?

[merry talon]

You're just running multiple instances of node then

[wispy blade]

zoldersessions

[warm anchor]

join VC here.

[viral hornet]

Listen to development noises

[icy osprey]

Since the release of Node.js v10.5.0, there’s a new worker_threads module available, and it has been stable since Node.js v12 LTS.```

[void void]

what’s that

zolder means attic in Dutch lmao

[minor badge]

@blazing quarry Radioresepsjonen :)

[merry talon]

I mean its just terminology I supoose

[icy osprey]

@merry talon https://nodejs.org/docs/latest-v12.x/api/worker_threads.html

[wispy blade]

podcast from some cybersec company in my hometown

[merry talon]

If you write it to make use of the worker api to spin up additional threads that doesn't make the language 'multithreaded'

But like, again, semantics

That doesn't really mean anything

[lavish compass]

[wispy blade]

ok

[icy osprey]

what does then?

[wispy blade]

you need to write the program in said languages to be multithreaded

iirc

[icy osprey]

I mean java is compiled... so even though it's multi threaded language, it is not written in java when the computer sees it

[late atlas]

Can someone please explain what the latest update in 1.17 means? Does that mean your on the next phase of patches now?

[wispy blade]

yes

[late atlas]

thank you

[merry talon]

well like, the jvm will spin up additional threads without you telling it to for things like gc and io

java doesn't turn into machine code

[icy osprey]

Well in that case you are correct, the default behavior of nodejs would be single threaded. However with worker threads your application can be multithreaded

@merry talon jvm bytecode?

that's what it is compiled to right?

same as kotlin?

[merry talon]

yes

[icy osprey]

the bytecode is machine code for the jvm

[merry talon]

lol

you got me there

[wispy blade]

well kotlin is supposed to be a dropin replacement for java so it should work the same :p

[void void]

letss goooo

[waxen panther]

welllllllll

[merry talon]

but also

[waxen panther]

kotlin targets more than just the jvm ^^

[merry talon]

js is compiled too

[icy osprey]

JIT compiled

[merry talon]

[icy osprey]

yeah I know how it works

[wispy blade]

js is an interpreted language 🤔

[icy osprey]

v8 machine code

it is not interprete

[ancient bolt]

interpreted vs jit is all implementation detail

[icy osprey]

yeah I guess that's true

kinda

not really....

[merry talon]

yeah but if your language is referred to as interpreted that means it's shit

so its good to have separate terms :3

[icy osprey]

js does get compiled tho, only during execution

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/02/a-crash-course-in-just-in-time-jit-compilers/

[wise rapids]

:|

[merry talon]

<@&748618676189528155>

[swift root]

!ban @dusty mesa Sketchy exe

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned masiha 128#6252 (Sketchy exe) [1 total infraction] -- Larry#6086.

[wispy blade]

ez

[swift root]

That's so sketchy wtf

why would they send that

[icy osprey]

yeah ummmm

[patent fractal]

Hi I'm new here- could someone tell me what paper and waterfall discussions are? Just like I read the announcements but not sure if PaperMC is a server or a texture pack? Sorry if I'm impolite.

[warm anchor]

He’s 13 that’s why

[merry talon]

Larry

[wispy blade]

PaperMC is a server

[patent fractal]

Is it for Java?

[wispy blade]

yes

[void void]

I remember back when I was thirteen I was whining over here about when the new update was going to be released

[warm anchor]

Paper is a server software @patent fractal under bukkit eco system for Minecraft Java edition

[void void]

lol

That was ages ago.

[merry talon]

when I was 13 I was refreshing dbo

[patent fractal]

Oh I see, thank you!

[merry talon]

there was nowhere to complain

[void void]

A what?

[merry talon]

dev.bukkit.org

[void void]

oh

[warm anchor]

You can get a simple overview of the project at https://papermc.io/ and welcome! @patent fractal

[void void]

well, I was thirteen back when 1.13 almost released (coincidence?)

That’s a 3 years ago (????)

[icy osprey]

probably a government conspiracy

[void void]

Gosh, people can change a lot in three years

[patent fractal]

Thanks! 😊

[void void]

lmao

[wispy blade]

i actually had somewhat of a brain at age 13

ikr, insane

where's it gone now

[icy osprey]

Not me.... I asked my mom recently if she thought I was slow growing up.

[warm anchor]

I would hope so. You don’t just grow one from age 14

[warm anchor]

Why are you forcing your mom to lie!!

[icy osprey]

idk but she really put on an act

[wispy blade]

lol how old do you think i am etern

[warm anchor]

Rn? 17 ish?

[merry talon]

It's actually crazy to me that you can't just configure your server to block weird exe uploads

[wispy blade]

im 15 lmao

[viscid wedge]

I was probably smarter at 13, before I was able to kill my brain with alcohol and antidepressants

Gottem

[warm anchor]

Look at this Mr fancy pant on tv and shit

[wispy blade]

i was on the front page of a county newspaper once B)

[icy osprey]

you don't happen to like tortles do ya?

[void void]

A wish kind of idea.

[void void]

What’s a tortle??

[swift root]

don't worry, I cringe when I look in the mirror and see myself from 0.0000000000000001 seconds ago

[icy osprey]

nothing there was a kid that liked tortles on tv and it was cringe

[rustic valve]

That's just called cringing, Larry

[wispy blade]

who's larry i only know Lerry

bzt show?

[icy osprey]

What machine did you play?

[wispy blade]

keep chat english

:)

[void void]

okay

[void void]

something like that but no

[wispy blade]

hm

[void void]

A random mame cabinet, but it was still cool

[swift root]

https://tenor.com/view/the-outpost-the-outpost-tv-the-outpost-series-the-cw-fantasy-gif-18807672 .

[wispy blade]

embed fail look at this loser

[swift root]

WHY

[merry talon]

Wtf is this url

In my chat

[icy osprey]

nice, when I was a kid we actually had arcades where I lived (more than one!!)

[void void]

I have one in my bedroom now

[wispy blade]

i still wanna go visit national video game museum and play IIDX

[void void]

Although it’s a custom made one

With a random raspberry pi in it

And a €10,- LCD from the thrift store

Less exciting than an arcade cabinet with an actual crt in it

[wispy blade]

also less loud and power consuming

[void void]

it doesn’t make any noise at all

[wispy blade]

crts make hella noise

[void void]

I have a 4:3 trinitron (13” IIRC) for my NES

[void void]

the peep is annoying at first

no

one with an actual rounded screen

an old school trinitron

your ears might be broken/old

older people have a higher chance of not hearing the beep since the frequency is so high iirc

[wispy blade]

might be that our crt tv was a little broken

[void void]

I wish I was older bruh

[icy osprey]

I had a CRT that lasted me from my comodore64 all the way to my xbox(original xbox)

[void void]

CRTs don’t break within a decade

unlike modern TVs

[wispy blade]

but yeah we had a plasma tv and you could see the subpixels

[icy osprey]

mine was multiple decades old.....

It might even still work if my parents have it still

[void void]

A plasma is like a thicc boy with a flat screen right

[wispy blade]

yep

they were the hot thing

lcds are awesome ngl

[void void]

I still have a tv from the early 90s, not in use tho

[icy osprey]

now that I have an ultrawide I cannot imagine going back to a CRT

[void void]

Except it’s not a crt

quite interesting

[rustic valve]

Your face needs a CRT

[void void]

ultra wide is expensive and enormous.

Me just casually rocking a 13” retina screen on my laptop

[wispy blade]

my mom still using a working crt from when she was a student

[icy osprey]

it's nice for gaming, and mine was only hundreds of dollars which is relatively small amount of money

[waxen panther]

my ultrawide was like 1100 :')

[wispy blade]

my monitor was like 190

[icy osprey]

yeah I cheaped I think mine was only like 500

[void void]

Yeah I don’t really play modern videogames

[swift root]

my kidneys are worth tens of thousands. good luck topping that one

[void void]

I honestly only occasionally play minecraft and some retro games

That’s basically it

[wispy blade]

cuz you're on a macbook

[void void]

no

not because of that

I never really played games.

Not my piece of cake

I only played console games back in the day.

And of course, back when I was 8, Angry Birds on the PC LMAO

[icy osprey]

the one I got is only 330 USD now... so I mean they are not that expensive @void void

[void void]

I’m not going to spend $330 on a monitor lol

That’s €271,96 Euro

I’m fine with a squared off monitor that’s like 1440p

As long as it has a clean design and it works without much issue

[icy osprey]

I feel like if I buy a monitor for 500$ and it lasts me a decade, that's cheap

[void void]

1440p, 60hz is fine

I don’t want plastic fantastic

[icy osprey]

this one I have is UWQHD (3440 x 1440) 100hz

[void void]

The best looking monitor, although WAY TOO EXPENSIVE, is by far the Pro Display XDR

why?

I don’t need more than 60Hz.

[icy osprey]

it's better on my old eyes

higher refresh rate is better on your eyes

[void void]

I only do the occasional minecraft, web browsing, office work and making shit in illustrator

[icy osprey]

and I stare at a computer literally all day everyday

[void void]

probably

[limber knot]

Higher refresh rate is definitely a nice plus. It's entirely unnecessary, but god damn it feels good to look at, even for basic stuff like text editing.

[waxen panther]

idek if my high refresh works in linux but i can pretend it does

[ashen cliff]

Any PRM-4220 users?

[waxen panther]

i only care about it for GAMING anyway 😎

[wispy blade]

sudo nvidia-settings >:c

[icy osprey]

there as to be a way to test it 😛

[waxen panther]

i normally use ufo test

[warm anchor]

Also a high end monitor with correct color calibration is nice

[waxen panther]

nvidia settings fixes it until i restart but i still dont think intellij runs above 60, scrolling looks terrible

[icy osprey]

I wish mine had that, I had to cheap out 😭

[untold copper]

maths

[warm anchor]

I am rocking z35 rn

[wispy blade]

not saving it to your x conf CRINGE

[void void]

laughs in True Tone

[waxen panther]

i do

[untold copper]

eternity rich

[waxen panther]

but then my rendering pipeline breaks

[warm anchor]

Older version though

[tired crater]

My mic was more expensive then my monitor

[waxen panther]

i love nvidia and xorg

[untold copper]

you guys have a mic?

[icy osprey]

dang... that one looks nice, is it worth the price?

[wispy blade]

ok Mr. Poopa

[warm anchor]

Yes Snoopa

[void void]

Just rocking the built in webcam microphone

[waxen panther]

i also have a mic

[void void]

it does the job

[warm anchor]

Yes. The 2560x1080 is nice. (I have the first gen)

[void void]

people can hear my clearly, so who cares about a fancy microphone

it’s just a recording device, unnecessary extra cost.

[gritty grove]

Yeh

[waxen panther]

you must live a very exciting life

[icy osprey]

whoa that one is 144hz

[void void]

I’m too frugal for that

[untold copper]

i have a 75hz LG monitor

[icy osprey]

I'm kinda jealous rn tbh

[warm anchor]

If you have the money, go for x35 it’s best imo. Checks all my boxes

[void void]

laughs in 50hz crt

[merry talon]

I spent 800 on mine

[untold copper]

https://www.amazon.in/LG-Borderless-Color-Calibrated-Monitor/dp/B07K6NBLLS/ref=sr_1_23?dchild=1&keywords=lg+monitor&qid=1623739736&s=computers&sr=1-23

[wispy blade]

ok but where the fuck my bus at

[untold copper]

this one

[void void]

YOU MAD?!

[merry talon]

[void void]

That’s €659,20

[warm anchor]

@icy osprey if I ever wants to upgrade this will be the one https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-series/predatorx35

[void void]

You can buy a Mac with that money

[icy osprey]

I just got the one I have not that long ago.... but that one looks pretty awesome

[untold copper]

.g 15000 inr to usd

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://exchangerate.guru/inr/usd/15000/

[merry talon]

yeah

[untold copper]

$204.89

[merry talon]

but its beautiful

[void void]

It should be at that price point

[warm anchor]

One piece of sexy machine

[ashen cliff]

CRTs were epic. Just set it to 200Hz an call it a day.

[void void]

Our TV at home is like €300 lol

You be like:

$800 pc monitor

bruh

[untold copper]

We still have a CRT Tv

[warm anchor]

Tv is cheaper than monitor for a reason

[wispy blade]

you be like: laptop screen best!!!!!!!!!!!

[void void]

nah

but it’s good

[tired crater]

Oh no

[warm anchor]

Less density on pixel so easier to manufacture

[void void]

the retina screens in the MacBook Pro’s are really good

[icy osprey]

macbook pro not 800$

[void void]

They may not be 120Hz or whatever

[waxen panther]

mf says a webcam mic is enough and then starts talking about a macbook pro

[merry talon]

I can't go back to 60hz

Using my laptop is painful

[void void]

depends on where you buy them

[waxen panther]

thats enough papermc for me today

[wispy blade]

bye bromcc

[tired crater]

Yea

[frank otter]

bye then

[icy osprey]

later gator

[merry talon]

weebs out?

[void void]

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/FGNR3LL/A/refurbished-mac-mini-apple-m1-chip-with-8‑core-cpu-and-8‑core-gpu?fnode=35168303703208a32d5b50f811283d786dfa3a423c1f7772ac8942029f006cbe05d0a942548477753ac94c51d886d393a18ec56aca9d0cf11ac9f4c9bf67ba5485ae18d78c03a2f69f6c96d14caedd8d

[warm anchor]

If you want a mic I will suggest ath 2020 for entry level. Otherwise go with Rode studio

[tired crater]

Enough internet for the day

[void void]

The newest M1 Mac mini

For $530

From Apple themselves

basically new

same warranty

new case

[icy osprey]

what the refresh rate on that

[void void]

lmao

but you get my idea

do proper searching and you’ll get some cheap shit that’s good

[icy osprey]

I have a m1 mac mini and I never use it

[tired crater]

Just to be sure, you know you dont get a retina screen with that?

[merry talon]

It's in the ghz

Much higher than any monitor

[void void]

I have a m1 MacBook Pro

The performance is amazing

[wispy blade]

you're recommending apple stuff to people that don't use it lmao

[void void]

I’m not necessarily recommending it

I’m just saying that it’s good stuff and not necessarily expensive

$1100,- is reasonable for a brand new laptop of this class

[tired crater]

I bet that for 600 you can get something real nice custom build

[wispy blade]

that is basically recommending it

[ashen cliff]

I'm using an old Macbook as an umbrella. That should count right?

[void void]

Though here in europe shits more expensive

We pay 21% vat on top of all products

[tired crater]

Nah not realy that expensive, all our prices are with tax included

All the american prices are without tax

[void void]

21% VAT is a fuck ton of tax

[void void]

I know

[vast wedge]

[tired crater]

It good that its there tho

[wispy blade]

"sales tax bad!!!!!!!!"

[void void]

It should be less. And yeah that’s possible

[tired crater]

Why?

[wispy blade]

#politics

[void void]

Just get rid of basic social income for those who are able to work, but don’t feel like doing so :p

[merry talon]

21%

[void void]

Also, we could stop sending bags of money towards Italy, Poland and Greece lmao

[warm anchor]

#politics

[void void]

ugh

minimod

[wispy blade]

saying it before you get muted kek

[tired crater]

System, i bet you are real fun at parties

[void void]

What are you trying to say?

[merry talon]

not old enough for that

[waxen panther]

minimod for not wanting a stupid discussion to happen that has no place in a minecraft guild?

sure

[void void]

I mean, fair enough

[waxen panther]

yes it is

[warm anchor]

brocco sleep! It’s 9 AM for you and 3 AM for me!

[waxen panther]

im just waking up baby 😎

[void void]

Didn’t know that was banned lmao apologies I suppose

[void void]

Europe gang?

based

[waxen panther]

england sadly

[merry talon]

brocc you literally just said you had enough paper for the night

[void void]

Based

[merry talon]

now you're back and lying

[waxen panther]

yea its morning now

good morning sweepy!

[warm anchor]

Thsts the catch it’s morning now

[void void]

The UK seems like a nice place to be

[merry talon]

[waxen panther]

it's uh, fine, sometimes

i hate it though

[void void]

why

I mean, I get it, freedom day has been delayed

But that’s no reason to hate your country

lmao

[merry talon]

oh here we go

[wispy blade]

#politics

[waxen panther]

i dont like the weather; the education system isnt great and our healthcare, while free, isn't great either

[wispy blade]

again

[void void]

lol I was joking 🙃

[waxen panther]

i dont even know what freedom day is

but no i dont like america either lol

[void void]

Bruh Dutch newspapers do be talking about freedom day in the uk being delayed

[merry talon]

No one from the uk in the right mind is on the side of brexit

[void void]

British person not even knowing what it is

[waxen panther]

lol no one calls it that

[void void]

It has nothing to do with that lmao

it’s related to the Chinese virus everyone hates now

[merry talon]

wtf are you talking about then

[rustic valve]

Luckily, nobody controls the weather

[merry talon]

???

[void void]

can relate to the weather part

same here

[waxen panther]

tell that to the guy who makes my sky grey EVERY morning 😡

[void void]

It’s either too hot or too cold

or just raining

[honest fulcrum]

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[honest fulcrum]

;-;

sed

[void void]

😠

[waxen panther]

read 1-17, there is nothing to be sad about

[rustic valve]

Hit him

[tired crater]

Thats because all dutch ppl find it too cold at 23 and too hot at 28

[void void]

facts

[merry talon]

They're right

[void void]

yesterday I thought I was in a sauna

It was 28 outside

lmao

[merry talon]

well, not about the too cold part

[void void]

But look at the rain

[tired crater]

Bro what you talking about

[barren gazelle]

is paper serevr good for bedrock

[waxen panther]

no

[honest fulcrum]

no

but

[waxen panther]

it doesnt support bedrock lol

[void void]

It could work

[honest fulcrum]

u can use geyser

[void void]

With geyser

[honest fulcrum]

or dragon proxy

[void void]

NO

[honest fulcrum]

depending on which version u wanna use ur server in

[honest fulcrum]

legacy mc is better with older geyser

[tired crater]

What is bedrock?

[honest fulcrum]

its a block

[rustic valve]

Some dumb mod

[honest fulcrum]

in minecraft

[void void]

litter you don’t want to know about

[waxen panther]

more microsoft minecraft

[merry talon]

Guys they didn't say wrong answers only

[honest fulcrum]

minecraft pocket edition

[rustic valve]

DUMB MOD, java only mc ❤️

[waxen panther]

mine was correct :(

[honest fulcrum]

xbox live edition

etc

[void void]

minecraft that only works on a OS made out of glass on desktop

[rustic valve]

That's under the assumption that it works

[merry talon]

bedrock works everywhere

with crossplay

you should buy coins

[void void]

Nein.

[merry talon]

and realms

[void void]

It doesn’t work on Linux

which is trash

bedrock noob

[merry talon]

sure it does

[void void]

Neither does it work on macOS

[void void]

it doesnt

Unless you install the iOS version

yea

which can be done with the new M1 thing

but it’s complicated since Apple blocked it

because Microsoft didn’t want it on Mac

[wispy blade]

just use java edition..?

i dont see a problem

[void void]

but bedrock has directx

which is cool

[barren gazelle]

is it stable in apex hosting

[warm anchor]

Citation needed on the last part.

[void void]

yea

if ur asking paper

[barren gazelle]

for cross platfrom

[void void]

idk

[void void]

I do 🙂

[tired crater]

Does Anyone has any experience with running java x bedrock servers?

[void void]

never tried

[barren gazelle]

we have 2 serevr s

[rustic valve]

I'll be your citation

[void void]

I stopped running geyser when I started using tcpshield

since it costs $20,-/mo if you do that

[merry talon]

you can't cite yourself 😡

[rustic valve]

THEN I'LL 'CITE YOU

[tired crater]

Get some sponns then xd

[merry talon]

[rustic valve]

I have spoon

[tired crater]

Spoon always good

[rustic valve]

[void void]

do paper devs even sleep

[tired crater]

I believe no

[void void]

lol they do

but low amount

[rustic valve]

Tsk, I've gotten lots of sleep.

[void void]

they are always active

[rustic valve]

Slept this whole time

[wispy blade]

hi odd

[rustic valve]

Hi Naomi!

[merry talon]

You fuckers would track them down and knock on their doors

They're hostages

You did this

[icy osprey]

You can also run the geyser outside your mc server afaik, so if you looking to cross play it's an option for sure @honest fulcrum

[rustic valve]

You can be my hostage

[tired crater]

I appreciate the hard work thats put in, keep up the good work!

[void void]

Yeah but like then u need a mc Java account

that defeats the whole point

[merry talon]

Only if you promise to actually murder me in the end

[icy osprey]

not with floodgate you don't

you do need xbox/windows/whatever account tho

[void void]

some mfs still come and say pApeR 1.17 whEn i guess they dont have patience

[rustic valve]

[tired crater]

Do you need a special bungee for bedrock?

[void void]

like my friends

[icy osprey]

there is geyser for bungeecord

a plugin

[tired crater]

Aah alright

[icy osprey]

I have waterfall(with geyser, floodgate and viaversion) and then paper servers (1.16.5 with viaversion) behind it

it supports 1.15.2-1.17 clients (reason for viaversion)

[rustic valve]

So really, you're running 1.15

[icy osprey]

No none the servers are lower than 1.16.5

[tired crater]

Why 1.15 if I may ask?

[icy osprey]

I blocked the lower version clients

[rustic valve]

Why'd you be supporting 1.15 then?

[icy osprey]

leftover from last update to allow players to continue to use things like optifine and stuff while there is need to wait for updates

[rustic valve]

So... You're not supporting 1.15?

[icy osprey]

it's always good to support the old one for a little bit until players can update

no, 1.15.2

[rustic valve]

So, it's a 1.15 server?

[icy osprey]

no, the paper servers are 1.16.5

the bungee server is 1.17

[rustic valve]

So... You're not supporting 1.15?

[swift root]

this was long ago clarified

[icy osprey]

someone was just asking about it tho

[swift root]

no i mean you already answered Paper's questions

they're just re-asking them

[icy osprey]

oh

[swift root]

yes, as

leftover from last update to allow players to continue to use things like optifine and stuff while there is need to wait for updates

[icy osprey]

basically with viaversion you can block versions, I block:
[575, 573, 498, 490, 485, 480, 477, 404, 401, 393, 340, 338, 335, 316, 315, 210, 110, 109, 108, 107, 47, 5, 4]

[wispy blade]

i know reading is hard, odd

[icy osprey]

this blocks anything under 1.15.2

[rustic valve]

I only managed to do ONE roundabout circulation, Larry! Could've at least have let me do two

[swift root]

That's TROLLINg

and i will not stand for it

[icy osprey]

I would have kept going

[wispy blade]

ok Lerty

[swift root]

this is paper 1.17 era, where trolls are not trifled with they're just removed

[rustic valve]

We could have aimed for the MILLIONS

[swift root]

>:(

[swift root]

if you had made it two or three I'd have muted you for a week

it's just pointless

[rustic valve]

Clearly a lie, I'm still here!

[swift root]

your trolling so far has not been blatant enough

if you want to not be here, feel free to keep making it more obvious tho :)

[waxen panther]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[swift root]

where

[waxen panther]

larry is way too friendly

[swift root]

i miss z

[rustic valve]

That's the perfect kind of it

[waxen panther]

please moderate like wiz .

[quasi valley]

#wiz2021

[waxen panther]

amen

[swift root]

where is z tho

missin me some z

[waxen panther]

idk just ping him a half dozen times

[rustic valve]

I'm going to assume, not here

And with that, I'mma take a shower

Bye Naomi!

[swift root]

bad idea!

[waxen panther]

I'll do it

one sec

[swift root]

why do you give me bad advice

[waxen panther]

#712294045312876586 message

[swift root]

you're terrible

[quasi valley]

brocc is amazing

[swift root]

well yes

[quasi valley]

unless he’s mean to me about some non-existent weeb Chan

[swift root]

but also terrible

[waxen panther]

love u kenny

also dont insult my fiance .

[mental meadow]

browocco

[waxen panther]

awaowoawwa

i finally got a character i play in aram and then half my team afk'd

😎

[mental meadow]

epic

[stable lily]

what's the longest step?

[mental meadow]

the one we are currently at

[stable lily]

after rebase server patches*

[rustic valve]

All of them

[stable lily]

[ashen cliff]

Spigot 1.17 used to be the longest.

[waxen panther]

[rustic valve]

[serene tinsel]

Yo people.

[swift root]

hi

#❗-1-17 if you're wondering about 1.17

[serene tinsel]

How's it going

[swift root]

excellently

[serene tinsel]

I know

[rustic valve]

Don’t be hostile to the bots

[swift root]

lots of people wondering about 1.17 these days

[serene tinsel]

Yeah.

[rustic valve]

smh - 1.18 is where it matters

[serene tinsel]

Well I'm wondering about the vaccine these days lmao

[stable lily]

there still will be a 1 month period for all plugins to update so yeah

[rustic valve]

I don’t think we’d know much about that

[viral hornet]

AH

[waxen panther]

how the fuck did you relate 1.17 to a vaccine

[verbal bone]

Does anyone know if spigot 1.17 fixes the memory issues? Assuming my vanilla 1.17 jar isn't supposed to eat 8+gb of memory

[serene tinsel]

I'm waiting for the vacc

[waxen panther]

it'll use however much you give it

[stable lily]

[rustic valve]

That’s just your computer being bad

[waxen panther]

zzzzzz

[formal kindle]

Nope

[serene tinsel]

Well people said what they were wondering about 1.17, and I said I was wondering about the vaccine instead...

[waxen panther]

it's not an issue

[formal kindle]

There are no Memory issues

[swift root]

why do we have 3 opinions and only one is right and it's broccolai's

[viral hornet]

#general message

[viral hornet]

#general message

[serene tinsel]

How do we get roles?

[verbal bone]

First of all, it's not my computer, it's a dedicated server.

[formal kindle]

It just uses more ram

[vestal jasper]

Nope my opinion is right.

[verbal bone]

And for why

[waxen panther]

someone needs to do a long explanation of how memory works in java

[viral hornet]

@vestal jasper

[waxen panther]

no one understands it

[vestal jasper]

Sup

[rustic valve]

Your opinion is left

[verbal bone]

I'm well aware of how memory works in Java

[viral hornet]

broccol.ai blog post when?

[serene tinsel]

Any way I can get roles?

[viral hornet]

no

[serene tinsel]

ok

[waxen panther]

[formal kindle]

If it actually needs it

[waxen panther]

there are no self roles no

[rustic valve]

BroccoVlog when

[verbal bone]

It won't use whatever you give it and continue to run like shit

[serene tinsel]

k

[ashen cliff]

Anyway can I get some roles?

[waxen panther]

hi guys welcome back to broccolai tech tips 😎

[viral hornet]

[serene tinsel]

Nick perms when

[formal kindle]

Why

[swift root]

you need to sacrifice 4200 pool noodles to the NoodlLord and record yourself dancing either the samba or the twist while doing it

[viral hornet]

You can change your nickname yourself, no?

[rustic valve]

For you, Never

[serene tinsel]

Can I?

[viral hornet]

Well

[swift root]

the only way to sacrifice a pool noodle is by eating it piece by piece

[formal kindle]

Asking for Roles is prob not gonna get you any roles

[serene tinsel]

Oh I can

[viral hornet]

✨ try it ✨

[swift root]

/nick <name>

[ashen cliff]

Just asking bro.

[swift root]

#general message

#general message

[rustic valve]

I could, would wager anyone can

[ashen cliff]

Soon.

[icy osprey]

@ashen cliff did you make the ViaVersion Blocked Version Generator?

[viral hornet]

you forgot the ™️

[ashen cliff]

Yes.

[rustic valve]

Larry is the noodle

[icy osprey]

nice, thank you

[waxen panther]

we love krusic

except his authme stuff

[swift root]

no that's just how you get roles

[waxen panther]

we just ignore that

[swift root]

I hate noodles

especially after the sacrifice

[ashen cliff]

Currently the trademark is being disputed.

[rustic valve]

But Krusic no love us

[swift root]

well have you done the noodle sacrifice? do you have roles? No on both counts

[waxen panther]

yes he does Bro!

[viral hornet]

krusic does love us

wdym

Me and krusic have a special bond

[rustic valve]

Entirety of #memes would disagree

[viral hornet]

in the form of a mutual server

sacred

[ashen cliff]

BS. I hate everyone equally.

[waxen panther]

what server

[shell vine]

WHY

[viral hornet]

can't say

[shell vine]

is memes acrchi

[swift root]

yes

[rustic valve]

[shell vine]

archived

[swift root]

Mr. D it's gone sir, just gone.

[viral hornet]

Gifs still remains though which is weird

[rustic valve]

It was bad

[vestal jasper]

The great meme purge of 2021

[shell vine]

i liked memes

[viral hornet]

So you can still post memes, just in gif form

[swift root]

very >:|

[waxen panther]

took me 2 mins to find out bro never hide from me 😎

[rustic valve]

[shell vine]

guess we just gonna shitpost in general now

[waxen panther]

@viral hornet

[viral hornet]

#gifs-and-memes

[viral hornet]

Yes

[ashen cliff]

Fake.

[waxen panther]

😁

its not !

[viral hornet]

Memes in gif form are allowed

[waxen panther]

i rolled camm epically

[swift root]

Ok I'd like to request actual opinions - what is the absolute best laptop (battery and performance), size doesn't matter too much, that money can buy

[rustic valve]

The one with a chargercharger

[swift root]

literally best

under 2000USD let's say, but not hard cap

[viral hornet]

Just don't go any with a 4k screen lol

my XPS 15 drains very quickly

although performance is amazing

[waxen panther]

nah 4k screen is based

[viral hornet]

not for battery life lol

[ashen cliff]

External powerbank to bypass the flying restrictions.

[rustic valve]

You’re wanting both battery and performance. FAI, those two cancel out each other

[waxen panther]

fuck performance on laptops

[mental meadow]

I got a
GIGABYTE AORUS 7-SA-7DE1130SD (SA-7DE1130SD)

[swift root]

well yes! I want both, but you can always turn down performance to extend battery life

[shell vine]

yes xps 15 without 4k / touch

i have that

[rustic valve]

Get 16 powerbanks and a mobile generator

You’ll never run out

[ashen cliff]

So anything that doesn't have an Nvidia GPU.

[swift root]

Paper you're getting real damn close to troll

[rustic valve]

[swift root]

no

[viral hornet]

Larry is changing paper em cee

[mental meadow]

if it's from duck then yes

[viral hornet]

one joke troll at a time

[swift root]

oh yeah ^ re aworowrwa

[rustic valve]

It is if someone doesn’t like the joke 😦

[swift root]

do u love it

[rustic valve]

Twice in April

Kidney

[mental meadow]

I bought it so I can play games and stuff when I'm visiting my family for example, and it's quite powerful and zoom zoom fast, so far I haven't had any real issues with it? But the battery life is probably not tooooo good

[swift root]

thank u for letting me know

[viral hornet]

Do you want to use it for games too?

[swift root]

I need it for school but also relatively high-power tasks too

[viral hornet]

I just assumed this would be a working laptop

[waxen panther]

dave2d makes based laptop content just wait for him to upload 😎

[swift root]

and sometimes games but I have a desktop for that 90% of the time

loooove d2d

[mental meadow]

If you don't want to play games but want portability with power & good quality get a thinkpad

[waxen panther]

Ryzens are great for battery life

Or dare I say it an m1

[mental meadow]

and with "don't play games" I mean heavy games, ofc you can play minecraft and stuff

[swift root]

ah yeah

[mental meadow]

but like pretty much every company I know provides ThinkPad laptops for their dev/workers and there is a reason for that

[icy osprey]

I always liked the thinkpad I had, they are decent machines

[waxen panther]

I liked them before they were lenovo-ized

They’re better now apparently though

[swift root]

I'm partially using government school-computer funding for this computer so I can go as high end as I reasonably want, and I just want something to carry me thru school for like 4 or 5 more years

[ashen cliff]

ROG Zephyrus G14 AyyMD should do the trick.

[icy osprey]

I had post lenovoized version, it was decent

[mental meadow]

look into ThinkPad T series

[ashen cliff]

Lenovo.

[waxen panther]

not very balkan

[mental meadow]

I remember my first laptop was an IBM ThinkPad lol

[swift root]

Ryzen™ 9 4900HS CPU is relatively excellent for performance and efficiency right?

[mental meadow]

that thing is indestructable

[swift root]

hah yeah

schools assign thinkpads to teachers here

they never die

[ashen cliff]

Yeah. You can change its power limits to less. Well. It should do that automatically if you have the ASUS Spyware installed.

[mental meadow]

krusic = phoenix??

[ashen cliff]

Perhaps.

[rich cove]

is there a way to add 1.17 block types to paper 1.16.5 while waiting? 🤔

just a question

[ashen cliff]

Nope.

[worldly helm]

No

[rich cove]

unpog

i wasn't meaning exactly i just meant the blocks would look like 1.17 blocks with viaversion or smth

[solar niche]

image when support for viabackwords come out and u using the datapacks for biger building limit and you join with 1.12 for example on 1.17 server with -64 blocks caves

[ashen cliff]

We already support 1.17, just not the extended world.

[rich cove]

are you a discord minecraft cave

[solar niche]

you can donwload datapack mojang relesed

[solar niche]

what

yes

[rich cove]

your profile image

[mellow mulch]

oh my god

aurora what is that theme

[rich cove]

it looks like a cave thing

[solar niche]

my picture?

[rich cove]

yes..?

[solar niche]

change to light mode

and image will change too

[mental meadow]

Gradianto Dark Fuchsia with Norway Today as the editor theme

[solar niche]

if you change to light mode it will be white

yes

[mental meadow]

it's pretty cool

just slightly different transparancies to create shadows

[unreal quarry]

i tried changing to light theme to check it out, now i'm blind

[solar niche]

ahahah sory

discord need to add flasbank warning

[unreal quarry]

you thought they would actually glow?

[solar niche]

[formal kindle]

Damn that shit coool

[twin lagoon]

lol, freenode imploded

[waxen panther]

average night when michael is asleep

[twin lagoon]

pretty much

nothing of value lost

[static badge]

freenode what

[twin lagoon]

https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_suicide

[static badge]

lol

[vernal moth]

Idk wtf they smoking over there

[void void]

hi

[elfin rose]

Hello, for a paper server with 6 friends playing together and a few plugins, what is the minimum ram recommended?

[twin lagoon]

there's not really a minimum

but i'd just go for 4gb

[elfin rose]

Thanks

Is 2gb pushing too far?

[twin lagoon]

try it and see

if it works for you then well it works

[elfin rose]

What are the signs that it is not enough? Stutter?

[twin lagoon]

bad garbage collection causing lag spikes (can be seen in timings or with the plugin Spark)

or it crashes due to out of memory

[elfin rose]

Owh nice! Never knew that thing existed.

[elfin rose]

Will this one be in the log? Or just crashes with no info whatsoever

[twin lagoon]

that one will be in your logs yes

[elfin rose]

Alright, thanks again

[twin lagoon]

" <r​asengan@freenode> dead: This was a necessity. freenode was destroyed by the former staff."

lmao what a guy

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/2d561564adaf4ce29f092fe7de790781

it gets worse

[coarse lily]

You missed the part where he renamed himself to root now.

[twin lagoon]

<@rasengan> "Giant projects centrally controlled by a select few" is not FOSS.

isn't this literally fucking freenode

[waxen panther]

a little bit of trolling

[twin lagoon]

i am still amazed by the fact that he's a crown prince

[waxen panther]

lol what

[twin lagoon]

you didn't know?

[waxen panther]

no?

[twin lagoon]

although to be fair korea doesn't have exactly have a monarchy anymore iirc so it's really just a title

[coarse lily]

Yeah that part is weird

[twin lagoon]

andrew lee is a south korean crown prince

[coarse lily]

Not their lack of monarchy but who he is.

[waxen panther]

lmfao

unreal

[swift root]

dude's wild

[mental meadow]

@twin lagoon what chair do u have now and is it good

[twin lagoon]

herman miller aeron

yes considering i've had one for my entire life