general

[potent fossil]

hi bby

[proud lance]

considering it just for one person

I dont need the DDoS protection

I need the routing

co-admin has absolutely terrible connection issues

[warm anchor]

You can help relocate your admin

[proud lance]

thats the other option, to setup a proxy there

[potent fossil]

i highly doubt anyone is shelling out $1/gb bandwidth on spectrum and then not even using its DDoS flagship selling point, and instead using it as some sort of fucked vlan

like you'd have to be the first

[livid swan]

Anyone know good ddos protection for dedicated servers?

[potent fossil]

tcpshield

[livid swan]

Hmm it's $100/mo for unlimited bandwidth right?

[potent fossil]

looks like it

start with $0 and upgrade as needed, dont start at $100 lol

[livid swan]

But I'm the next hypixel

[warm anchor]

Maybe he’s made out of money bro

[potent fossil]

i mean at this point im sure its a meme but even so

you'd start at $0 and watch the traffic monitor

[livid swan]

Nah jk I drive for Uber.

[warm anchor]

Are you owner of Hypickle?

[potent fossil]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/093/991/c66.jpg

i will now proceed to rotate cows in my mind

ye

[fickle granite]

im excited for paper 1.17 !

[novel horizon]

so many people in the voice channel 👀

i just see it and im anxious 👀

[swift root]

it's rehearsal for the 1.17 devrush so many want

[proud lance]

lol

[fickle granite]

I joined what is the voice channel about?

[proud lance]

I was about to say they are discussing the secret 1.17 release

[novel horizon]

yep very secret things

[swift root]

lolno if you're in voice and want to type to others in voice, use #the-silents

[proud lance]

dont play with my emotions like that

[dreamy tree]

for bot-join ddos protection I use the EpicGuard plugin lol

if x amount of players try to join it temporary blocks all joins for x minutes

instead of just throttling for a few secs

[novel horizon]

even authme can do that

🤷‍♂️

[proud lance]

plugins dont stop ddos attacks

[dreamy tree]

oh you mean actual ddos

[proud lance]

ye

I kinda wish there was a separate term for that

[dreamy tree]

surprising every server doesn't come with ddos protection

[proud lance]

its expensive

your host needs to upgrade their infrastructure

most cant afford it

and would rather drop you

[dreamy tree]

mcpro seems to offer ddos protection for like $5/$10 a month if that's what you call expensive o.o

I don't use it since it's a private server but yeah

[proud lance]

they probably resell like every other minecraft host and use a provider that has it

yeah i can sell ddos protection as well, let me spin you up an instance on my ovh or nfo server

[lean kiln]

@waxen panther play elevator music

[dreamy tree]

vpn's in a nutshell

lel

[waxen panther]

too mnay non-shitposters for elevator music

[novel horizon]

yep damn vpns 👀

[waxen panther]

[lean kiln]

sadge!

[dreamy tree]

ok

[lean kiln]

ok

[waxen panther]

thank you marine

[proud lance]

is it really vc for 1.17 prep or is it just leaf reading everyone bedtime stories

[magic river]

I'm surprised the bot didn't change that name

bedtime stories? Shit I'm missing out

[ripe sphinx]

everyone's just kinda derping around atm, someone'll probably be streaming when there's actual dev work happening

we're still waiting on spigot

[dreamy tree]

dang at 1am lol

y'all must live around the world

[ripe sphinx]

it be 10pm for west coast (best coast)

it's fking late no matter where they are though

[proud lance]

Once upon a time, minecraft chunk loading was sync....then one day a prince came along to the paper git repo...

[dreamy tree]

if someone paid the papermc dev team $1,000,000 do you think they would finish a stable jar by next week?

owo

[proud lance]

when you guys do dev work, one of you load up one of those old school keygen music as the background

hacker music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk3tXQzCeJA

im gonna listen to that now

that too

[magic river]

I usually load up Tool, A Perfect Circle, Nine Inch Nails, deadmau5, or some random electronic mix

Depends on how angry I am about the code I'm writing

[void void]

techno is the best 😋

[proud lance]

Theres a plugin I want to update cause it throws MySQL errors and Discord API errors, I don't see a license for it in the git, is it usually okay to fork someones source and build a new version or should I just build from scratch?

[thick iron]

i can't listen to tool after my friend made me listen to it for 7 hours while we were on acid

[proud lance]

owner hasn't been around in a while, so idk how to proceed

[thick iron]

but if you weren't me i bet it would be great coding music

[magic river]

It's mostly chill but with enough faster angry songs to keep you going

[thick iron]

@proud lance by default even if the plugin is open source you should treat it as all rights reserved but if you're updating it for private use there shouldn't be an issue

[magic river]

APC is heavily on the angry side, NIN is a mix of angry and depressed, deadmau5 and the electronic stuff is energetically plowing through tedious work

[proud lance]

I mostly want to update private, then throw it up on spigot for those people who want the same thing I have, not charge money for it or anything

[thick iron]

if you intend to distribute it then there's a chance there's a legal issue with it but honestly i say go for it

just make sure to remember that if the original author has a complaint about your update, they hold the rights to the code

[proud lance]

yeah I gotcha

[waxen panther]

no

[thick iron]

my go-to recently has been spotify's hyperpop playlist no matter how trash it is

[proud lance]

any eurobeat boys

in chat

[wispy blade]

i have 4 days worth of vaporwave

and some breakcore albums

[runic drum]

did md5 accidentally push anything?

[ripe sphinx]

according to VC, people are getting emails for commits from stash, but https://hub.spigotmc.org is 403ing so no way of knowing for sure

[wispy blade]

happens

[merry talon]

In that case I wouldn't publish an artifact directly to spigot

Probably just a link to github

[runic drum]

🤣

[void void]

https://twitter.com/spigot_mc/status/1403225220249395202?s=21

SpigotMC (@Spigot_MC)

Now available — Spigot & BungeeCord 1.17

https://t.co/9g1fGcrGZx

Twitter · Jun 11, 2021, 5:38 AM

[warm anchor]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/spigot-bungeecord-1-17.510208/

[proud lance]

homepage updated ayyy

[wispy blade]

oh cool

[swift root]

we droppppppped

[void void]

lesgoo

[wispy blade]

@ core team

[primal harness]

does anyone know genraly how long it takes to put out a new version after minecraft releases it

[novel horizon]

i wonder how good is it 🤔

[ripe sphinx]

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[novel horizon]

i didnt used spigot for quite some time

[primal harness]

i know youo prob been asked a million times

[dreamy tree]

depending on the amount of new things, 2 weeks up to 2 months

[merry talon]

eta for the next person asking for an eta?

[dreamy tree]

1-2 weeks for subtle changes like 1.16.2->1.16.5

[faint delta]

what's the config to change how all the xp orbs merge into one big one preventing lag?

[dreamy tree]

1-2 months for large version changes

[primal harness]

mmk thanks

all i neaded to know

[dreamy tree]

yeet

[proud lance]

merge-radius

[mighty storm]

0-2000 months*

give or take

[wispy blade]

^

[dreamy tree]

xd

[wispy blade]

i require entwicklungsgeräusche

[autumn glen]

holy moly work is getting done fast

[nocturne agate]

Hey, not mc related but does anyone know what xmrig is? It eating up 2 cpu cores on Linux vps

[novel horizon]

xmrig is miner for crypto

[warm anchor]

LOL

[storm void]

Spigot 1.17 is out lets go

[autumn glen]

lmao

[warm anchor]

are you mining coins on your vps?

[nocturne agate]

Shit

[novel horizon]

if you didnt run anything like that there, you have some virus 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne agate]

No…

[warm anchor]

well you are apparently

[nocturne agate]

Crap

[proud lance]

lul

[nocturne agate]

Can I remove it with apt?

[warm anchor]

someone got a jar from blacksigot?

[proud lance]

if you didnt install it, wipe the machine

[novel horizon]

in theory you can kill it and remove it, but if you didnt install it in the first place... its gonna be there again if you have some malware or something

[nocturne agate]

Oh alright

[dreamy tree]

[warm anchor]

Assume your entire machine is compromised and start recovery from there

[autumn glen]

pretty much ^^

[nocturne agate]

I haven’t setup mc on it yet. It’s fresh pc that I installed Linux on

[warm anchor]

[wispy blade]

how did you get a crypto miner then lmao

[nocturne agate]

I must have installed something. I was trying to get some driver to work

[warm anchor]

well since it's new

just nuke it

[proud lance]

where did you get your linux distro from?

[warm anchor]

coz you sound like you dont know what you are doing and it will be easist solution at your stage

[nocturne agate]

Debian.org

[nocturne agate]

Alright I will do that. Thanks

[dreamy tree]

👀

[dreamy tree]

bruh the site runs http and not https looool

[proud lance]

what

[novel horizon]

MiniDigger streams with a name 1.16 when 🤔

[novel horizon]

idk if on purpose or just genuine mistake

[nocturne agate]

It’s fine

[warm mesa]

how many goblins have been fed yet to the 1.17 bot?

[proud lance]

should we check it

and then delay paper by 360 hours?

[limpid comet]

Oh dear god

[dreamy tree]

weird

[limpid comet]

It's the update stream

[warm mesa]

yes 🥺

[balmy grove]

excuse me sir, I need to report

[proud lance]

how does an update stream work? "Mini, why are you using spaces instead of tabs?" "You made a typo in your function"

[meager tusk]

that's quite a few people in that channel

[novel horizon]

he muted stream because of jroy tho 😦 because of dmca music

can't hear anything now

[wispy blade]

update vc is STACKED lmao

[balmy grove]

how to report ?

[wispy blade]

report what

[balmy grove]

Now i have a promlem

[swift root]

ping mods if it's important

[waxen panther]

paper-help

[swift root]

ping me

[balmy grove]

problem*

[swift root]

if you don't know

paper problem?

or moderation problem

[balmy grove]

yes

paper

[proud lance]

#paper-help

[swift root]

then #paper-help

[balmy grove]

Thanks sir

[proud lance]

faster than the mods

[waxen panther]

#general message

10000x faster than both of u

[proud lance]

you didn't do the #

doesn't count

[waxen panther]

dont need to

[warm mesa]

I think they should just redo all the the scripts in Powershell for the stream. LOL

[proud lance]

you gotta link the channel or they will get confused

[waxen panther]

i dont wanna be associated with c# 😷

[wispy blade]

c# is cool and all but imagine making a language for a platform specific framework

[proud lance]

just code minecraft in asm

the roller coaster tycoon guy did it

[runic drum]

punch cards

[wispy blade]

pure binary

[faint delta]

ty

[void void]

Wishing the Paper dev team all the best

[clever mantle]

discord boost system is annoying

[peak ginkgo]

alright paper, spigot just released give me my jar /s

[warm anchor]

should wait and donate to project! Paper server is already verified so they dont really need boosting perk

[wispy blade]

woowee just barely made my bus connection

[clever mantle]

Didn't want to boost

But again, discord boost system is annoying

[warm anchor]

huh lol

[clever mantle]

I've wanted to cancel the boost om this server, ended up boosting more

https://c.tenor.com/431cXXyoH-UAAAAM/tenor.gif

[warm anchor]

[feral nebula]

good luck guys

[deep dove]

1.17 is there or not?

[warm anchor]

#❗-1-17

[north walrus]

Cheese

[left swift]

.flags

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[left swift]

site dead?

[proud lance]

takes a while to load

keep it open

and wait

[left swift]

word

[vestal jasper]

new tree type???

oh it's just a weird oak tree

[wide chasm]

wakes up
Did 1.17 release?
sees entwicklungsgeräusche
I think that's a yes

[worn ember]

releasing when I'm sleeping smh

[warm anchor]

Yes more moderator action soon!

When kids wake up in a bit

[limpid comet]

is the stream just watching mini

[wide chasm]

Ugh

[warm anchor]

Yes

But no delay

[limpid comet]

ill have to hop in at some point

[warm anchor]

Mini has twitch too

[limpid comet]

[warm anchor]

MiniDigger_

[limpid comet]

im a tier 1 mini GitHub supporter

Er, was

[worn ember]

Ok have fun patching. I'm going back to sleep

[warm anchor]

He’s not partnered yet

I think

[trail zealot]

Can you tell me an approximate time when PaperMC will be launched? Please!

Can you tell me an approximate time when PaperMC will be launched? Please!

[limpid comet]

no

[warm anchor]

Lmao

First guy to get tested

[marsh lion]

before 2053

[warm anchor]

1 to 350 months

[limpid comet]

camm brocc and granny in one voice chat

a rare sight

[trail zealot]

...

[warm anchor]

#❗-1-17 @trail zealot

Read

[trail zealot]

ok

[slate pecan]

Hi! I have contributed a PR to Paper, is there a role I can get? 😅

[limpid comet]

your complementary paper contributor package will arrive within 3-5 shipping days

[mental meadow]

For one PR? no

[waxen panther]

contributor role is for people that have contributed a lot, other than that no

[mental meadow]

If you contribute regularly and a lot there is the Contributor role

[slate pecan]

I know it's too little, but wanted to ask anyways 😅

[mental meadow]

but thanks for your contribution ❤️

[slate pecan]

Thank you for the reply!

No, thank you guys for the hard work! ❤️

[ashen cliff]

You may therefore have to manually install it from a third party such as Azul Zulu.
Where TF did he even find Zulu? :kekwhyper:

[coarse lily]

@swift root some of your opinions are wrong fight me

[novel horizon]

🤛

[swift root]

oh so now you want to fight

which opinions are wrong little belligerent man

[coarse lily]

I dunno you pick

[swift root]

hm

[twin lagoon]

@coarse lily

@swift root

[swift root]

hi mikeeeeeeeal

[twin lagoon]

[swift root]

uwu

[coarse lily]

Evenin' @twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

[swift root]

@coarse lily here's an opinion: pineapple can belong on certain pizzas but rarely is it done correctly

[proud lance]

ew

[swift root]

waits for violent screams from everyone

[coarse lily]

Well I'm backing the hell away from this one.

[swift root]

THOUGHT SO

little scared man

[novel horizon]

I don't like it at all, but people can eat whatever they want 🤷‍♂️

[coarse lily]

goes back to watching Mini's stream

[novel horizon]

I think it tastes awful, the combination and such

[proud lance]

Mini eats pineapple on pizza while he updates paper

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

[coarse lily]

@cedar spade belongs on pizza if he wants to be on pizza

[proud lance]

I have a counter opinion, peas and mayo belongs on pizza

[swift root]

o k a y 👍

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/FjWKMsF.png

md loves me

[late atlas]

Chicken and pineapple on a BBQ base pizza is orgasmic

[novel horizon]

woah really kick

what is the message above 🤔

[coarse lily]

@nahkd#5041123 looks like they renamed a bunch of recipes like made it now minecraft:recipes/misc/gold_ingot_from_blasting_nether_gold_ore

Unrelated.

But that's the message above it.

[novel horizon]

yeah i was looking at it

so many messages from people from here lol

[glad narwhal]

fuuuuuck, they obfuscated NMS

[tulip inlet]

This being said there are some important changes to NMS this release, namely that all fields have been reverted to their obfuscated form. This, along with the repackaging of NMS, are crucial steps in the highly requested process of transitioning to using the so-called 'Mojang Mappings' for development of Spigot itself. In order to assist developers with the transition we have added an additional option to BuildTools, --remapped. This option will install additional Spigot jars into your local Maven repository with the classifiers remapped-obf and remapped-mojang. You can use these to develop against a 'Mojang Mapped' Spigot jar, and then use the below Maven configuration to produce a jar suitable for distribution.
you can use mojang mappings in your ide

[vernal moth]

But many of the GNU utilities (only available in Linux) are quite attractive. Most of them don't have Windows alternatives.

[wispy blade]

pogi

[vernal moth]

wsl disagrees

Anyway, I wonder Spigot has moved to Mojang Mappings or not
only fields, at compile time

[waxen karma]

pog

[swift root]

Discord seems to be having some troubles

[mental meadow]

https://www.twitch.tv/minidigger_ just join on twitch

[solid siren]

spigot out yet?

[limpid comet]

why can i mute and unmute people in the channel

or is that client side only

[potent warren]

it's probably client side muting

[quasi valley]

"Mute" is just client

"Server Mute" would be for everyone

[limpid comet]

oh cool i didn't know that was a thing

[quasi valley]

how did you not know that

imagine something like discord or teamspeak didn't have any way to mute other people for yourself

[glad narwhal]

for some reason spigot build tools does not generate remapped jars

[rustic valve]

Mmmm… watching people suffer

[limpid comet]

i vc like once a month

[autumn glen]

i have 20 chunks/second gen rate on spigot 1.17, honestly can't wait for paper async chunk gen when it comes out

[upbeat falcon]

(See #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785. In the meantime, every time you ask, we postpone it by an hour, so I believe this makes it 365 hours...

[autumn glen]

mmm

[limpid comet]

i don't really worry about muting friends in a vc, i'll just deafen if i need to sound whore or something

[rustic valve]

Do you not crunch with your friends

[rich elbow]

woah so it can be done? how did you contact them? just email them?

[worthy geode]

You should be able to email them to the email they sent the original block to you with

[void void]

[ashen cliff]

It's interesting to see how many plugins works with extended height. But once you go below 0, they just stop working.

[desert terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852780142980104202/852802590894587935/image0_1.png

[void void]

bruh

[waxen panther]

epic troll bro

[quasi valley]

mfw

[swift root]

knooney

[limpid comet]

is this what paper general turns into when The Update begins

[swift root]

usually it's worse

[limpid comet]

[swift root]

thankfully the master of our update universe, the one who begins it all, released at a time inconvenient for both NA SA and EU

[limpid comet]

lol

[lime oak]

currently 1:37 PST

[swift root]

now granny

[limpid comet]

4:37 BST

[swift root]

you're done it once

[limpid comet]

(bluely standard time)

[swift root]

gotta update every minute forever now

[cedar spade]

ok

[swift root]

just to be precise

[lime oak]

only did it to align with my message timestamp

[swift root]

smh my head

[limpid comet]

respect larry's wishes

or you will be stricken

who knows what larry might do

[swift root]

I'll just ignore it. This time.

[limpid comet]

larry aren't you an english major or something

whats the difference between struck and stricken

[lime oak]

but then it wouldn't look correct :(

[swift root]

struck is the past tense of strike

stricken is for things that can't actually strike

guilt, misfortune

even wounds (which are caused by a strike but aren't a strike) and diseases

[limpid comet]

ok

[swift root]

struck is for when you're past-tensing strike

[limpid comet]

so, for example

"granny did not update his message in a timely manner, and was struck by larry"
"larry was striken with guilt after the incident"

[swift root]

ye

also

[limpid comet]

fantastic

[swift root]

not an english major 🤢

[lime oak]

imagine

[limpid comet]

ok english minor

[swift root]

I do enough writing to be tho. Hist and Phil major

[cosmic raft]

faaake

[lime oak]

Philhist major

[swift root]

History n Philosophy and yes I AM READY TO FIGHT NOW

[rich elbow]

will do, thanks!

[upbeat kelp]

is nitro temporary

[waxen panther]

yes

its a monthly package

[mossy vessel]

edible green plant?

[upbeat kelp]

oh ok what about the promotion

[waxen panther]

hot nmf

[upbeat kelp]

is it going to end

[mossy vessel]

ikr

boiling with hot water and eating later on

[waxen panther]

the epic games one will last for 3 months and the promotion will probably be on for a month or so

im hungry

[mossy vessel]

rumors said food may help

[upbeat kelp]

is this real

[waxen panther]

no

he's trolling you

and i agree nmf, i gotta go shopping tho

[upbeat kelp]

oh ok

[mossy vessel]

Good idea brocc, just came from there ;p

[void void]

Dababy

[limpid comet]

funny funny funny

[potent warren]

actually, let me move this message to #paper-dev

[white flume]

Stream links pls 🙂

[swift root]

pins in #the-silents

https://www.twitch.tv/minidigger_ and https://www.twitch.tv/demonwav

[void void]

how i cant wait for paper 1.17 to come out so i can use plugins to make life easier

hi

[void void]

my tps went to 0.8 is it even possible

[marsh fog]

hey umm where can i download spigot 1.17 from? i dont find it on the web

[upbeat falcon]

(See #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785. In the meantime, every time you ask, we postpone it by an hour, so I believe this makes it 367 hours...

[marsh fog]

I SAID SPIGOT

[waxen panther]

you have to run buildtools, like you've always had to

this is the paper discord and the bot is not sentient

[rustic valve]

This isn't Spigot Support

[marsh fog]

i dont like bots btw

[waxen panther]

i dont really care

[void void]

does converting a vanilla world to a paper/spigot one is automatic or does it need to move the nether and end folders

[rustic valve]

This is Paper General

[marsh fog]

UGH i read #❗-1-17 and saw spigot is released

just asking BRUH

[waxen panther]

ok!

[rustic valve]

And we're just telling

BRUH

❤️

[vale light]

In germany we call paper gute deutsche Ingenieurskunst lol

[rustic valve]

That's a long name for something so void

[median wing]

367 hours...

[cedar spade]

And it'll be longer if people keep asking

[median wing]

I hope it's a joke

[void void]

yes

[vale light]

I think someone misunderstood my message

[median wing]

||:D||

[worthy geode]

We don't do jokes here

[ashen cliff]

Issue of the day: https://github.com/AuthMe/AuthMeReloaded/issues/2352

[waxen panther]

not during update season

[ashen cliff]

[royal kernel]

The livestream is pretty cool, the paper updating one

[vale light]

I like that there are german people working on it lol

[rustic valve]

Punishable by death

[worthy geode]

Thats why no jokes are allowed

[royal kernel]

Its like a voice reveal lol

zzzCat isn’t there tho

[rustic valve]

I don't think he followed his own guide

[ashen cliff]

Fix it.

Good luck.

[rustic valve]

I TRIED

IT DOESN'T WANT TO

Luckily

that also isn't my problem

[obtuse canyon]

how is going paper 1.17 ?

[quasi valley]

#❗-1-17

[rustic valve]

Flight

[waxen panther]

they're great

thanks for asking 😁

[rustic valve]

Paper planes with paper flight

Can't be great

Mini isn't drunk

[quasi valley]

but you are not paper 1.17!

[waxen panther]

i know them

its ok

[quasi valley]

fair

[rustic valve]

I'm doing wonderful, thank you

[waxen panther]

paper-chan update when

[rustic valve]

Uh

[waxen panther]

kneny if you say who i will NOT laugh

[mental meadow]

Paper-chan update: I added the pride month stuff and paperchan please to the folder on the top-secret page

[rustic valve]

ETA: Never
Extra wait: At least 367 hours

[waxen panther]

im talking about paper chan

[rustic valve]

gib

[waxen panther]

idc about paper itself

😎

[mental meadow]

https://auri.gay/top-secret

(click on her)

[void void]

what

[rustic valve]

'Tis a goddamn virus

Are these documents, videos, music or photos? Gotta know where to save it

[mental meadow]

Important stuff always save to your home dir

[proud lance]

so for shits and giggles I decided to try cloudflare spectrum and it fixed the lag the person was getting fml

[rustic valve]

I don't have a home directory

I saved it to my downloads folder ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mental meadow]

yeah you do

C:/Users/<name>/ on windows

[olive marlin]

Always put it on desktop and name it mom_dont_open

[viral hornet]

Prof

[olive marlin]

Camm

[rustic valve]

I'm sorry, but the only thing I permit on my desktop is my Private snuffhuff folder.

[green tartan]

why md_5 isnt in this discord

[viral hornet]

Who knows

[pseudo jungle]

Super grateful for having all those amazing devs behind spigot and paper

[rustic valve]

I think, just thinking, fully possible I'm thinking here, maybe, I think, I think it's because, maybe, just thinking, he's only for, I think, possibly, only Spigot

[rustic valve]

You want a picture from my Snuffhuff folder?

[shell vine]

holy poop theres a lotta ppl in voice

[mental meadow]

discord really needs hoisting in voice

this is super annoying

[rustic valve]

Lotsa people with nothing to do

[shell vine]

didnt they recently add that "stage" feature

i feel like that fits this situation

[lime oak]

not really

can't stream in those channels

[mental meadow]

yeah but you can't stream in there

[shell vine]

ah

[mental meadow]

which is super stupid

but that's discord

[lime oak]

can't turn on your camera either

which would make sense in a podcast situation

[shell vine]

idk anything about it other than it was called stage xd

[viral hornet]

Well when/if they add video & streaming to the stage feature, it'l be fine

[potent fossil]

stages are for talks w/o video, which is dum cause i cant remember a talk i've gone to recently that didnt at least have a slideshow

[rustic valve]

Even just a picture

A picture

If they're talking about their pens, I wanna be able to see that damn pen.

[lime oak]

it's only good use is like a podcast or community meeting

[rustic valve]

Talking about this amazing engraving on your pen, but not letting us see it just isn't cool.
Give us the feature, Discord

Give it

[worn ember]

Damn. Paper VC packed

[pallid edge]

How do you get the kitty role? I have a chonky kitty to share

[mental meadow]

please show proof of chonky kitty

[split furnace]

dedication

[void void]

all these different timezones suck

[rustic valve]

Wait

[rustic valve]

We can just whore our cats out for free flairs?

[mental meadow]

#adorable-pets

[void void]

Dogs > cats

that’s just factual information

[rustic valve]

Yeah

[void void]

not subjective, not at all

[rustic valve]

Well,
that channel is ready only >=I

[viral hornet]

C H O N K

[void void]

I don’t really like cats

[pallid edge]

No!!!

[mental meadow]

#adorable-pets !!!

[pallid edge]

Ayyyy

[void void]

who cares about the 928392 different channels

[rustic valve]

❗ ❗ ❗

[mental meadow]

I will kick you

[void void]

👀

[mental meadow]

If you ping me one more time

[void void]

I just quoted a message?

I didn’t ping you

[mental meadow]

yeah you did

you had pings enabled

[void void]

oh

[mental meadow]

replys have pings by default

[void void]

This better? (should be disabled now)

[rustic valve]

It'll just pop back on next time around

[mental meadow]

yea

[rustic valve]

I see the logic for it being defaulted to on. But my god is it easy to forget to tap it

[wide chasm]

You'll learn quickly here :)

[mental meadow]

I understand it if you're replying to an old message or something but it's just super annoying when the message you're replying to is right above your message lol

[rustic valve]

But - Pingers aside. The channel is still refusing me to whore out my cat 😔

[rustic valve]

oooooh

Betcha I can do that one

[waxen panther]

@ aworwa

[rustic valve]

You should ping her, I've heard it's effective 🙃

[plain thunder]

whats the profit of using a database for plugin storage?

it seems to be costing me an additional 1$/month for it if its better ;c

[spice ether]

Sharing data between servers

[plain thunder]

ah so like bungeecord server

[spice ether]

No not really

[waxen panther]

sql can also be faster

[plain thunder]

guess i wont need the database since i only have one server

well can or will be?

theres no lag on my server

does it save memory usage tho?

[waxen panther]

well it almost always will be but if you're not having problems theres no reason to switch

no it wont

[rustic valve]

You could do what I used to do back when I both needed yaml databases but also needed them to be shared between multiple servers. Symlink the whole thing.

[waxen panther]

symlinking

[plain thunder]

hmm well im just at a minecraft hosting provider

theyre offering a database for like 1$

[rustic valve]

That's a joke. Don't symlink your entire computer 😅

[rustic valve]

You like that, hmm? A few symlinks to wake ya up in the morning? 😏

[waxen panther]

i had a bug report not too long ago of some guy symlinking the whole plugin folder

was certainly something i hadnt thought of lmao

[rustic valve]

That might have been me

[spice ether]

Lol

[olive marlin]

Lmao

[waxen panther]

it was actually a bug in configurate

which really means something

configurate is normally flawless

[rustic valve]

I hit up so many issues when I started symlinking. Created a lot of bug reports. 😆

[olive marlin]

I'm rewriting my backend and configuration management to abuse git and symlinks. I wonder what will break.

[rustic valve]

I don't know how they've currently done it, but it used to be that FAWE let you store your schematics both globally and per user, so everyone got their own folder and files. You couldn't store that in a database, and I was running a Bungee. Really wanted to build something in Creative then just quickly paste it over to Survival.

They were not happy

From memory, usually the pathings break. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[plain thunder]

is there any major changes (except performance) compared to spigot btw? like, can i just run a spigot minecraft server until paper releases their update

[mental meadow]

sure you can

[rustic valve]

You can run a vanilla server until Paper flies off if you so desire

[waxen panther]

Are you ready for POG 5 minute start times?

[rustic valve]

Tbh, I don't understand all this fuss over a snapshot. Like, come on guys, the release isn't set until like, Christmas.

[olive marlin]

Want to see things break? Create your server folder with newline in it.

runs

[plain thunder]

well no my server depends on plugins lol

[plain thunder]

hold up what

[waxen panther]

spigot start times are really really slow lol

its kinda incredible

[olive marlin]

Spigot startup is epic. /s

[plain thunder]

lmao damn

well it doesnt really matter tbh

its just a community server

also this is so freaking cheap.. How is this even possible?

[rustic valve]

No worries, just rm -rf / and lean back, watch your worries slip away!

It's foolproof, works every time.

[plain thunder]

Nah man sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root

you need them root permissions

[olive marlin]

You forgot to disable preserving root.

[rustic valve]

wat

[olive marlin]

Smh amateurs

[rustic valve]

You don't just do everything on root?

[plain thunder]

how else are you going to delete root-only files

[ashen cliff]

Also you forgot to mount the EFI partition.

[rustic valve]

Pfft

[plain thunder]

nah not needed

[rustic valve]

Why would you ever log into any user other than root

[olive marlin]

If you won't pass --no-preserve-root, rm will not let you delete it.

[rustic valve]

That's where all the fun is

[potent warren]

Paper can fix this, right? lmao

Paper can fix most Spigot problems

[olive marlin]

Paper does fix it.

[waxen panther]

it already is

this isnt a new issue

:p

[olive marlin]

For years.

Hello brocc

[rustic valve]

Just run :(){ :|: & };: and be happy then.

[plain thunder]

so if paper manages to fix it, then how the hell is spigot never adapting it

[olive marlin]

Lame fork bomb smh

[rustic valve]

I just grabbed something random from the webster

[olive marlin]

But I love how much you can destroy in how little characters in bash lmao

[potent warren]

Wait, when Paper says that it's loading libs, what is it doing exactly? loading native stuff? loading from where? can it be sped up even more?

[rustic valve]

Honestly, the longer a command or a function, the less harm it can do, IMO.

[worn ember]

@potent warren ew it's Nick

[potent warren]

[twin lagoon]

hello

[worn ember]

Michelle

[rustic valve]

I demand ability to whore my cat in #adorable-pets

[twin lagoon]

@olive marlin

[olive marlin]

Prove that you have a cute cat and some mod might give you access.

@twin lagoon

Company party today?

I wonder if I can still beat people in table football.

[worn ember]

i beat people without table football ✊

[mental meadow]

DO IT

[rustic valve]

That's just beating people

[mental meadow]

#adorable-pets

[rustic valve]

Woooo! I win!

[upbeat falcon]

(See #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785. In the meantime, every time you ask, we postpone it by an hour, so I believe this makes it 369 hours...

[worn ember]

https://giphy.com/gifs/8Odq0zzKM596g

[wide chasm]

!kick @ionic oracle Don't repeatedly ask for ETAs

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Kicked Xvideos#7856 (Don't repeatedly ask for ETAs) [1 total infraction] -- stefvanschie#7609.

[rustic valve]

I will never be on anything, excuse you >=c

[icy quail]

where can i download 1.17?

[upbeat falcon]

(See #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785. In the meantime, every time you ask, we postpone it by an hour, so I believe this makes it 370 hours...

[tender swift]

Oh boi that timer is gonna be skyhigh xD

[unique wind]

wow they have a whole bot for that lmao

[rustic valve]

Is going to be?

It's already at 370

[worn ember]

i mean, look at the amount of times its been asked

[unique wind]

I suspect it's a joke and they just want people to shut up

[rustic valve]

It was like, the low 200 a day or two ago.

[void void]

Have y'all got your hands on the free nitro yet?

[rustic valve]

Yes

[plain thunder]

I mean the bot has done it several false positives

[void void]

Cool stuff ngl

[unique wind]

I might just update to spigot

and wait for paper

the plugins should all work the same, right?

[plain thunder]

like i asked with the word "1.17" like 3 times and it counted even when i didnt ask about eta at all

[upbeat falcon]

(See #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785. In the meantime, every time you ask, we postpone it by an hour, so I believe this makes it 371 hours...

[plain thunder]

aand here we go again god damnit

[unique wind]

oh wow it does actually count

1.17

[plain thunder]

yeah its false positives sometimes

[worn ember]

can you dont

[vernal moth]

it has a rate limit but yes, it counts

[unique wind]

lmao

[rustic valve]

But it also does a fair few false falses.

[twin lagoon]

@vernal moth where's the beercam

[vernal moth]

but don't spam it or you will get kicked

[plain thunder]

i bet half of the hours counted wrong

i dont spam lol

[rustic valve]

I'll spam you 😏

[unique wind]

[worn ember]

@plain thunderspambot 👀

[plain thunder]

[plain thunder]

my gf already does that no thanks

[rustic valve]

Ded - Do you have the banner-feature?

Spamming ones own imagination doesn't really count.

I do applaud the effort to seek professional aid though.
Admittance is the first step to recovery ❤️

[gusty umbra]

spigot 1.17 realesed?

[twin lagoon]

yes

[gusty umbra]

can i have the link

[twin lagoon]

google

[rustic valve]

Go ask Spigot, they might know.

[pallid edge]

I bought the 10$ nitro like 3 days before the free nitro was announced.. rip me

[gusty umbra]

ok

[rustic valve]

They should give you a pity-price

[pallid edge]

Not only did I waste my money, I can't even get the 3 free months

Yep

[rustic valve]

Obviously they'd never do that

But they should

[feral locust]

Spigot now let us pr api to their repo
Anyone want to try to pr something and see will it be merge

[rustic valve]

It'd be a great way to bolster customer relations, increasing the odds of keeping the customer. Buuuuut... They'd never do that

[worn ember]

banner feature?

[rustic valve]

Click my name

I have banner-danner

[worn ember]

oh god

my eyes

[rustic valve]

rawr

[pallid edge]

I guess it's more epic game's customer relations

The new banners are dope

Sadly not visible on mobile

Got most of my players from tiktok

[rustic valve]

It was this, or a pokemon one. Because I couldn't find something green to match my profile.

So this is it, to be used to piss off a friend

[worn ember]

dont advertise here

or you'll get the 👢

[rustic valve]

This better?

[worn ember]

yes

[rustic valve]

Aha! Why didn't I think of this from the beginning! Now it's perfect

[void void]

how to waste your money online ™️

[worn ember]

whats the point of having money if you dont spend it

[rustic valve]

Put your money into things that make more money

That’s what I’ve been told

Gotta get that money making money

[worn ember]

discord makes me money

[lime oak]

speaking of putting in money to get more money

crypto :)

stocks!

[worn ember]

yeah no, im not contributing to any of that shit

let it burn and die

[rustic valve]

Lemme just… hide my portfolio real quick

[worn crest]

Later this day I'm going to the Devs 😊 is it german or English because of the channel name lol

[rustic valve]

Whatever you desire

[mental meadow]

english

don't worry

[worn crest]

Why then German channel name 😅

[rustic valve]

It probably has some meaning to the youth

[waxen schooner]

they like doing things like this sometimes lol

[rustic valve]

They're devs. Gotta let them feel that sweet taste of life sometimes

[waxen schooner]

lol

[worn crest]

So many german Devs here 👀 I was so overwhelmed that so many servers are located in Germany but wow 😅 never thought so

[vernal moth]

german is the second largest audience on this server

after the US

smth like 9% of users here are german

[worn crest]

Hello

[rustic valve]

Damn Germans, slowly taking over

[void void]

my first message ever in discord

[worn crest]

Yeah!

[untold copper]

our school server... epic games free nitro is insane lmao

[rustic valve]

send invite

[untold copper]

what no

its our school server

only school people :D

[rustic valve]

Yeah

Send invite 😄

[untold copper]

nop

[rustic valve]

I'm

uh

I'm school people

[untold copper]

nO yOu'Re NoT

[rustic valve]

No, I deffo am

[untold copper]

n0

[rustic valve]

YeS

But, it'd be funny 😔

[untold copper]

no it wont

[rustic valve]

'Course it would.
You'd have no idea for how long I'd lurk, learn everyone's names and habits, until I one day become one with the folks, nobody knowing where I once came from, everyone thinking I'm part of the group.

[untold copper]

les go lmao

[dull patio]

woah It's the real Paper 1.17

[rustic valve]

One and only

[dull patio]

please bless my server

[rustic valve]

No

[dull patio]

:(

[void void]

a random question: how can i get the old interface and icons from ubuntu 15.10 in latest ubuntu?

[twin lagoon]

but why

[rustic valve]

Clearly he like the interface

[solid siren]

paper when

[waxen panther]

#❗-1-17

[trail sluice]

https://ubuntuunity.org/

[lime oak]

tf is that

why does every image bounce

[waxen panther]

one of the reasons humanity will never progress

[trail sluice]

@void void or you could just install unity7/unityX on an already existing ubuntu system

[vague solar]

[fervent pilot]

[trail sluice]

going for the ol' reverse psychology trick I see

[vague solar]

👍

[marsh fog]

a question, i want to let my players from 1.16.5 connect to 1.17 "server" how do i do that?

[mental meadow]

viaversion

[twin lagoon]

viaversion + viabackwards

[marsh fog]

oh thanks

[void void]

Woah since when could you @ a voice channel o.O

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[upbeat falcon]

(See #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785. In the meantime, every time you ask, we postpone it by an hour, so I believe this makes it 374 hours...

[mental meadow]

!kick @fast shell Stop asking for an ETA every day

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Kicked 77 FF#2040 (Stop asking for an ETA every day) [2 total infractions] -- aurora#4484.

[void void]

Hey aurora I noticed you @'d a voice channel! how'd you manage that?

[worthy geode]

that was added in the recent discord update

[void void]

Oh word? I needa update my Discord then!

[mental meadow]

<#ID>

[worn ember]

hm i should probably install j16

.java16

[limber knot]

Follow the guide for how to update to Java 16 here: https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[void void]

Thankyou Aurora!

[warm anchor]

Spigot is like your 20 year old beater and paper is sport car.

[mental meadow]

around 250 API and 750 Server patches

[waxen panther]

please stop asking

[worn ember]

Domestic violence?

[earnest stirrup]

Does someone have a build of 1.17?

of spigot

[worn ember]

Lmao

[meager tusk]

spigot might

[worn ember]

Ping md and ask him

[waxen panther]

run buildtools

[rustic valve]

Should go ask Notch

He's got the file you want

[warm anchor]

Not sure if ded dum or beater term only used in US

[twin lagoon]

you've already been kicked for asking about eta's, stop moaning

[waxen panther]

i've heard of the term but people dont use it here

[mental meadow]

!ban @fast shell You've been warned multiple times to stop asking for ETAs.

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Banned 77 FF#2040 (You've been warned multiple times to stop asking for ETAs.) [3 total infractions] -- aurora#4484.

[marsh fog]

nice

good job eraser

[rustic valve]

Gotta be dense

[worn ember]

dum

[potent fossil]

< -    double A();
< +    double A(); default double getZ() { return this.A(); } // Paper - OBFHELPER
---
> -    double getLevelZ();
> +    double getLevelZ(); default double getZ() { return this.getLevelZ(); } // Paper - OBFHELPER

So because of this, does this mean we'll be able to get rid of that OBFHELPER?

[vernal moth]

yep

[potent fossil]

god thats so hot

[night forum]

Does anyone have any idea what projects might be appropriate for beginners who are just learning the paper/spigot API?
I'm going to teach a few trainees in my company how a plugin is built but I can't think of a good beginner project.

[vernal moth]

some poor soul is gonna go thru and remove them all

[potent fossil]

ill do it i volunteer as tribute

its a beautiful task

[vernal moth]

we will do that after initial patch apply I guess

[potent fossil]

oh okay nevermind have fun stream goblins

if i can do it without conflicting with y'alls work i will

[worthy geode]

Do a command that creates a fun effect in the world, that way you have both creating commands and interacting with the world itself

[potent fossil]

do a command that starts the apocalypse and have them implement their own end-of-the-world scenario

[night forum]

You mean a covid-19 simulator?

[ancient bolt]

We will end up getting rid of all obfhelpers

[potent fossil]

[ancient bolt]

But for now we'll just get rid of the ones that conflict probably, to keep it simple

[potent fossil]

hell yeah sexy

[jagged vector]

i know when there going to release it

[potent fossil]

orly do tell

[ancient bolt]

I mean I guess grep can find all obfhelpers since the comment is there

Just gotta make sure to use intellij to find all the callers

Probably best to not worry about it for now, I think it would be cool if you wanted to take a crack at it @potent fossil

[warm anchor]

Dev in working mode

[vernal moth]

yeah I already said we should do that later as cleanup

[potent fossil]

I'll do it later if it still has yet to be done 😎

[worn ember]

i'll cheer you on

[rustic valve]

I'll sit on the sideline and provide witty comments nobody likes

[earnest stirrup]

I made a build of 1.17 spigot but how can I enable experimental pack?

[rustic valve]

Ask Spigot

[waxen panther]

no just download the datapack from mojangs site

and put it in the datapack folder

[worn ember]

frick, now i gotta support custom worlds

[rustic valve]

Aww

[worn ember]

wel technically i already had to but uh

[rustic valve]

But I wanted to go on there and tell him to ask Mojang afterwards 😔

[worn ember]

now even more so

[rustic valve]

Does a custom world require any differentiating support as long as it uses the same blocks as a normal one?

[worn ember]

well i'm just ignoring their existance rn

[rustic valve]

Do you support negative height

[ashen cliff]

No.

[rustic valve]

[viscid jay]

0

[rustic valve]

1

[viscid jay]

2

[rustic valve]

3!

[viscid jay]

4

[rustic valve]

ONly 5

[viscid jay]

Only 6

[worn ember]

[rustic valve]

The solution is 7

[viscid jay]

Error in 8

[rustic valve]

Exceptional 9

[warm anchor]

Can we not spam. Thanks

[viscid jay]

Sir yes sir

[warm anchor]

Wow this rtp plugin does not support my world - 1 star

[rustic valve]

That would sadly require, like, doing stuff.

[worn ember]

[viscid jay]

what plugin?

[worn ember]

tbh i never thought someone would test it with custom dims haha https://github.com/DarkEyeDragon/RandomTeleport/issues/131

[rustic valve]

You should review it.

Doesn't support my highly customized and brand new world
Dev doesn't update instantly
Hasn't immediately responded to issue
1/5 stars

[worn ember]

i never messed with datapacks, but probably not a bad idea to start with them

[viscid jay]

Sir spigot link please

[rustic valve]

I am Paper >=c

[viscid jay]

But you are child of spigot

[rustic valve]

I don't speak of daddy

[worn ember]

me?

[rustic valve]

excommunicado

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/view/depressed-bored-boredom-swing-head-gif-17224602

[viscid jay]

yes

[worn ember]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/random-teleport-full-nether-support.76021/

[viscid jay]

did daddy hit you?

[rustic valve]

Every day

[viscid jay]

thanks will check

[viscid jay]

Call 911

[rustic valve]

Sir, that's an Emergency line.

[vague nebula]

mc

why java 16?

why

why not 11?

[austere girder]

java16 isn't even in any linux repos yet

[rustic valve]

Probably just grabbed the last in line when updating.

[ashen cliff]

yet

[worn ember]

cry about it ig

[viscid jay]

But its emergency that you are abused

[potent fossil]

because mojang updated to 16, we have no choice :p

[vague nebula]

is there any performance in 16 ?

[viscid jay]

does it have random respawn when dead?

[rustic valve]

Maybe I like it

[viscid jay]

i really wanted random respawn and rtp

[worn ember]

if you can get a plugin to execute a command on death, you can make it work, but its not a feature

[vague nebula]

why java is releasing new versions instead of fixing one version

[viscid jay]

Then that cant be called abuse sir

[austere girder]

Too many? Is there such a thing? 🙂

[viscid jay]

Thats called pleasure

[limpid comet]

WAIT

wait

[rustic valve]

Usually newer versions fix issues in the older versions.

I think they call it updates?

[limpid comet]

does bukkit support custom worlds now

via datapacks

[worn ember]

it has for a long time

[limpid comet]

since fucking WHEN

[worn ember]

its just a bit limited

[limpid comet]

oh

[austere girder]

Oh. That's unexpected...

[viscid jay]

limited like?

[limpid comet]

everything

[potent fossil]

so use twitch instead: https://www.twitch.tv/minidigger_

thats why we have it

186 ppl watching there

[worn ember]

well tbh idk if theres even any api for it
i just know there is a custom env type

which is used by custom worlds

[worn crest]

very interesting the stream 👀

[worn ember]

i stopped watching cuz of the lack of beer

[austere girder]

Yup, its fascinating to see what's involved in making a custom server.

[potent fossil]

there is no estimate

[rustic valve]

How does it not support multiple worlds though?
I'd imagine that if your plugin supports the ability to change the world folder to dumbplace and still support it, you could support world and dumbplace at the same time?

[viscid jay]

one had random tp but no random respawn.... one had random tp and random spawn but it got nether bug and respawn anchor issue

so hoping to find best one

[limpid comet]

rtp plugins

[rustic valve]

You could, perhaps, try doing it a command block ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limpid comet]

You came to the right man.

[viscid jay]

sshh we forbid to use command blocks XD

[worn ember]

@viscid jaydo you know java? could make a simple plugin that executes a command on death

[vague nebula]

so why java 8 is still updated?

[viscid jay]

i wish i knew.....the syntax are harder and longer XD

[limpid comet]

security fixes

[austere girder]

to make you ask questions. 😉

[viscid jay]

but its same like c#

[rustic valve]

I had so many command blocks running at one time, t'was craycray

[vague nebula]

and then?

[viscid jay]

but it has longer coding....

[rustic valve]

Why is Windows 8 still updated?

[viscid jay]

its death is coming soon

[rustic valve]

But it IS still updated❗

[vague nebula]

because there isnt any win9 or 10

[worn ember]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/discontinued-commands-on-death.75639/ could give this a try, should still work

[viscid jay]

yes .... soon will be gone like 7

[potent fossil]

Java 8 will only be supported until March 2022, and then, only if you pay them (probably a hefty amount), on extended support for another 8 years before it dies

[warm anchor]

Why the fuck would you want to stay in java8 anyway lol

[vague nebula]

right

[potent fossil]

so might as well just move your booty off the dinosaur

hop on the rocketship plz

[rustic valve]

waaaat

[austere girder]

haters will say its photoshop

[warm anchor]

.xray use pape one

[viscid jay]

nice will check it out

[limber knot]

https://gist.github.com/stonar96/ba18568bd91e5afd590e8038d14e245e

[rustic valve]

Maybe it is