general

[worn ember]

read again

[vague nebula]

https://autarch.pl/5a81c11a3c0f1e92.png

but ok

[viscid jay]

windows xp in corner

[worn ember]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/orebfuscator.22818/

[vague nebula]

java 8 to 11 is acceptable but to 16?

[viscid jay]

just update

[worn ember]

bruh

[vague nebula]

and they have a time for older versions?

[potent fossil]

@vague nebula we have no say over it, do you understand that?

[vague nebula]

sick

[potent fossil]

mojang made this change

go yell at them :D

[worn ember]

or even better, accept it and shut up 🙂

[untold meadow]

even better, get excited for it bc using the latest version of software is good

[vague nebula]

java 16 is not even lts

[viscid jay]

why is he obsessed with older java 8-11

[vague nebula]

a lot of bugs i suppose

[untold meadow]

lts isn't a thing unless you're a giant company

[worn ember]

stay on 1.16 till everything is updated then

[potent fossil]

Well they decided on 16 anyway

[untold meadow]

there aren't "lots of bugs" in java....

[potent fossil]

17 is on the way shortly too

[rustic valve]

cough

[warm anchor]

Or you can ban the toxic cheater off your server if it’s a small SMP

[viscid jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/685225450175332466.gif?v=1

[worn ember]

yeah well sucks to be you then lol

[warm anchor]

That’s super easy to tell

[rustic valve]

Sounds like a personal problem

[warm anchor]

From looking at their mining caves

[worn ember]

thats why you dont update on day one

[viscid jay]

well you should

give them ghost vibes

[warm anchor]

You don’t have to. Get an ore announcer plugin that tells you diamond per hour

Go after those that finds a lot

[vague nebula]

btw default download java from java is 8

so if u install java

mc 1.17 wont run

[viscid jay]

Use Java SE 16

[warm anchor]

That’s coz you are on dumb windows

[rustic valve]

If you don't have staff sitting in spectator mode scaring the shit outta your players, what do you even have staff for then?

[vague nebula]

but people

dont know

[viscid jay]

Its JDK which have JRE in it

[vague nebula]

how to download custom version

[viscid jay]

Well there is youtube

[warm anchor]

.jaca16 @vague nebula

[vague nebula]

they will say minecraft is broken

[viscid jay]

And there is tutorials

[warm anchor]

.java16 @vague nebula

[limber knot]

Follow the guide for how to update to Java 16 here: https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[warm anchor]

There. Read

[rustic valve]

Iunno man, sounds like ya'll updated too soon ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vague nebula]

they will blame minecraft not java

[worn ember]

bruh how dense are you

[untold meadow]

users being dumb doesn't sound like a good thing to develop for

[vague nebula]

i dont mean u or me

i mean kids

who play mc

[warm anchor]

Vanilla launcher download java16 for you

Are you dumb?

[vague nebula]

kids doesnt know how to update java

[potent fossil]

mc has its own java packaged lol

doesnt use system java

[vague nebula]

oh

[waxen panther]

pain

[warm anchor]

Jre

[viscid jay]

Well its their loss

[vague nebula]

i didnt knew

[worn ember]

Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-compiler-plugin:3.8.1:compile (default-compile) on project Spigot: Fatal error compiling
maven has the best error messages lol

[rustic valve]

Been like that for, what, six years?

[waxen panther]

maven CRINGE

all maven discussion is now banned .

[worn ember]

is it 16 or 1.16 for version?

[waxen panther]

what

16

[rustic valve]

I thought someone said 58?

[worn ember]

hmmm

[viscid jay]

1.16 or 58

[waxen panther]

thats class file version

you dont use that there

[worn ember]

probably gonna have to update maven then

[rustic valve]

Aha! So someone DID say 58!

Victory enough for me

[viscid jay]

not me sir

[rustic valve]

Sir, someone else, sir

[viscid jay]

Please don't blame on poor me soul

[vague nebula]

java 58

[waxen panther]

i mean its still wrong

java 16 is class file version 60

58 is 14

:p

[rustic valve]

Goddammit

Wait

What's 53 then? 11?

[vague nebula]

java 1000when

[waxen panther]

53 is 9

[rustic valve]

I swear to god

I'll eat you >=c

[viscid jay]

swear to me?

[waxen panther]

https://javaalmanac.io/bytecode/versions/

[viscid jay]

please dont eat me

[vague nebula]

sweater

[rustic valve]

Warm and cuddly 🥰

[vague nebula]

is there any better java than adoptopenjdk?

[waxen panther]

they're all pretty much the same

[untold meadow]

depends on your use case

[vague nebula]

for minecraft

[untold meadow]

that's not what i asked

[waxen panther]

i doubt you'll see any real improvements with any of them

[viscid jay]

eat broccoli

sir

[untold meadow]

the main differences are support/etc for enterprise customers

[rustic valve]

Doesn't matter, it's packaged?

[waxen panther]

the graal hipsters will say its the second coming of christ but ...

[vague nebula]

graal java is broken

[rustic valve]

Those people are cray

[untold meadow]

no it isn't?

[vague nebula]

when i was trying to run server on it. it was broken

[untold meadow]

you not being able to use graal doesn't make it broken

[vague nebula]

and a lot plugins not supported

[waxen panther]

what

sounds like a you problem lol

[vague nebula]

maybe

couldnt find readable guide for mc server using graal

[untold meadow]

well it's not maybe, graal does what graal does

if you're wanting to use alternative jvms then it's expected that you have a base understanding of how to use them

[rustic valve]

All this talk about Java has reminded me of something.
I should probably update my own server 🤔

Naaaaaah, it'll be a pleasant surprise in a month

[potent fossil]

Oh well dude, they'll update eventually (or they won't). We don't have a choice here, Mojang updated to 16 so we all have to update to 16. That's the deal. No point complaining about it The future is upon us

[kindred storm]

I don't understand though, you don't have to build on Java 16 yet

[rustic valve]

But they did

And now we shall all embrace it

[austere ivy]

omg?? paper 1.17 is it really you???

[rustic valve]

Is meeeeeee

[austere ivy]

pog

[austere girder]

they're still making him and he's already here

[austere ivy]

idk what they’re workin on then

[austere girder]

Who really knows what programmers do?

[copper cedar]

i gotcha

they type words and things happen

[austere girder]

They scribe strange runes, and mysteries manifest

[copper cedar]

sounds about right

[rustic valve]

I think they're drinking beer

[copper cedar]

Might help with their creativity or something lol

[austere girder]

Legend has it the original version of Facebook was forged upon a drinking game....

[rustic valve]

You telling me I ain't creative?

[limpid comet]

bedrock
paper
wat

[austere girder]

No, not you! The people making you! 😇

[rustic valve]

I'm a creation?!

Rude >=c

[limpid comet]

oh

[rustic valve]

Sounds like a host dumb enough to offer support

You should post a ticket

[tender swift]

i need all them mods

[limpid comet]

"cant"?

what have you tried?

what isn't working?

any error messages?

[rustic valve]

Don't ask such advanced questions

Shouldn't confuse them, it's hard enough pressing start

[austere girder]

I like your sense of humor. A lot.

[still nacelle]

yatopia or purpur ???

[rustic valve]

Glad someone does. I don't 😔

Orangered

Have you tried

Iunno

[austere ivy]

just wait til we get paperhost, exclusively hosts bedrock servers

[rustic valve]

Not using the /

[limpid comet]

lol

/op

[still nacelle]

op zReeshey

[austere girder]

omit the /

[austere ivy]

also hi @limpid comet

[limpid comet]

hi brian u qt

[rustic valve]

No worries, we all are ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[copper cedar]

just some more than others

[sly cedar]

kittycannon works you can release it now it's finished

[austere girder]

idiot together... bigger idiot

[rustic valve]

There's ALWAYS a Dave

[copper cedar]

TRUE

[rustic valve]

Just imagine what we can do, TOGETHER

[austere girder]

hoard toilet paper?

[rustic valve]

need moar

I gotta buy all of it

Imagine if someone else decides to buy it all, then I won't have any!

[austere girder]

Don't forget to forget your face mask.

[rustic valve]

I ain't no slave of the system, I will not be ruled. The mere suggestion of a face mask feels illegitimating of my privilege

Now hang on while I cough in your face

[warm anchor]

Can you take this dumb topic somewhere else

[limpid comet]

@austere ivy

while you're here

[austere girder]

Lol, sorry, we were being sarcastic and satirical. 🙃

[limpid comet]

the start of a new era

[austere ivy]

yis?

hoooly crap that looks pretty

[limpid comet]

i had to censor things as i consistently cower in fear of larry's wrath

[austere ivy]

the gradient horizontal lines are 👌😤

[rustic valve]

Larry sounds fun
Where do I find?

[limpid comet]

the gradient strats are top tier

[still nacelle]

yatopia or purpur ???

[rustic valve]

Orangered

[limpid comet]

but anyways this is where bonk is going

[viscid remnant]

purpurr

[limpid comet]

uhh

just use cb

you'll be fine

[viscid remnant]

yatopia isnt the most stable really @still nacelle

[austere ivy]

yeeah that looks suuuper pretty, i love it. can’t wait to play it. great job blul

[limpid comet]

thanks

[austere ivy]

[limpid comet]

that's literally all there is

one book

[rustic valve]

But it's a good book

[austere ivy]

one VERY PRETTY* book

ftfy

[rustic valve]

Except for that scribbly stuff

Bad design, IMO

[limpid comet]

[rustic valve]

😉

[spice ether]

Guess what day it is 👀
https://youtu.be/cjgldht4PKw

[rustic valve]

Monday?

[tribal temple]

Anyone who knows how to create mod like know how to code and stuff but i need somone for help

[rustic valve]

Been awake for 10 hours, I should probably consider doing something productive soon

[tribal temple]

anyone ?

[rustic valve]

Have you considered looking at, Iunno, Youtube?

[tribal temple]

like what should i search i have an idea for a very cool mod so i want to know how can i go about it

[austere ivy]

woa. ACTUAL tommy init in the server?? brooo cool

[tribal temple]

nooo i am not tommy

i am just a fan

[austere ivy]

do you mean mod or plugin?

[tribal temple]

mod

[waxen panther]

wow didnt realise 😁

[tribal temple]

dont change my name pleasee

[austere ivy]

you’d probably have better luck asking in the discord for Fabric or Forge, depending on which you want to develop a mod for

[worn crest]

these asmr typing sounds 👀

[sly cedar]

@minor badge good luck you guys are amazing and you deserve all the respect of the minecraft community. You are a true legend.

[austere ivy]

also it’s alright, i can keep your secret, Tommy 😉

[vernal moth]

I would like to thank myself for providing a nice stream on twitch.tv while I enjoy the weather 😂

[tribal temple]

oh ok i heard that in this server people do code and stuff so i thought why not give it a try

[plucky nacelle]

thigh

nice

[dusk drift]

Knee

[spice ether]

Cheers

[worn crest]

pretty view

[austere ivy]

mini has left software development and has become a professional birdwatcher, truly one of the end goals of any software engineer

[vernal moth]

No bridal here, just ducks

Brids*

[golden gust]

mini, u still a hoe doe

[void void]

it’s way too hot over here in europe

[worn crest]

in francfort is also good weather 👀

[void void]

frankfurt-

[void void]

no

[vernal moth]

francfort

Lmao

[void void]

27 degrees is a tad bit too much

[spice ether]

30c isn't that bad

[vernal moth]

Only cologne gets to have a cool english name, smh

[spice ether]

31 is tho

[void void]

headaches, thirsty all the time, sweating all the time

[spice ether]

Lol

[void void]

The Dutch version sounds cringe

very cringe

[worn crest]

in french its called francfort but idk if the main name frankfurt is already english

[austere ivy]

ducks 👀

[void void]

haven’t seen those in a while

[austere ivy]

i own 2 lol

[void void]

whaaaaaaaaaaat

Yeah no I definitely don’t

[golden gust]

duck?!

Anybody up for chinese?

[void void]

lmaoooo

[spice ether]

Ooo

[golden gust]

I think I've actually only had duck like once or twice, it's kinda.. weird...

[void void]

we used to have wild ducks coming back to our yard every year

there was a huge pond with trees around it in the garden

[austere ivy]

no

[void void]

but that was back when we didn’t live in the city of course

[austere ivy]

duck is so oily, I honestly prefer turkey

[void void]

Haven’t ever had either

seems weird to me

[golden gust]

never found it to be too oily, I just find that it's somewhat stringy and gets stuck in your teeth

[tender swift]

yeah it has the texture of chicken a bit

[void void]

I’ll just stick to chicken, cow and pork

[tender swift]

but more smooth

[void void]

chicken on a stick with satay sauce

best shit ever

[golden gust]

Like, I generally tend to sorta avoid ordering like, "themed" take out i guess, like, I tend to shy away from chinese places because it's often too oily, and curry places...

Just, if you ever go to somebodies house who actually makes real curries, just, it taints you for life

[austere girder]

Silly question. If I go ahead and get a server set up with Spigot while the Paper folks are working, will Paper just be a drop-in replacement once its done?

[golden gust]

.eta

[tender swift]

and what there spice gradient is inb4 something level 2 is super flaming how

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[rustic valve]

Internet went out in the meantime - Am done, reorganized drawer

[tender swift]

hot*

[golden gust]

Yes, paper is a drop in replacement for spigot

[spice ether]

When it's spicy enough

[austere girder]

Had a feeling, just wanted to confirm. Thank you!

[rustic valve]

Does that make Spigot a drop-in replacement for Paper? 🤔

[void void]

Chinese food in the Netherlands isn’t Chinese food though

[golden gust]

We don't offer estimates, we quite simply do not know

[void void]

we don’t eat ducks when we say we eat Chinese

we eat a fuck ton of food with satay

[rustic valve]

I am here, ssshhh. No worries, only huggies ❤️

[void void]

bami, satay sauce, chicken, certain style of egg

[austere girder]

They're actually livestreaming their progress! You can watch them making 1.17 on Twitch

[golden gust]

We're actually much more open about the process than our upstream

If we knew, we'd tell you

We don't, so we're not gonna silence people up with false promises and dreams

[austere girder]

I mean, no eta, but... soonish? XD

[golden gust]

When somebody is willing to even remotely look at you and theeeen the long stretch of wanting to touch you

[rustic valve]

❤️ 😉

[void void]

With a bit of luck paper will release after covid ends lmao

[golden gust]

I mean, paper has a team, and we generally tag team this shizzle

[upbeat falcon]

(See #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785. In the meantime, every time you ask, we postpone it by an hour, so I believe this makes it 377 hours...

[rustic valve]

At this rate, I might be public next month 🙃

[austere girder]

It shocked me when I learned that Spigot was made by one person.

That's a crazy bus factor.

[ashen cliff]

made

[golden gust]

Okay, but

[void void]

Hopefully after covid ends then

I’m done with face masks

[golden gust]

Who do I have to pay the bus rental fee too?

[rustic valve]

Jeremy

You pay it to Jeremy

[waxen panther]

it is made buy the best programmer to ever walk this earth, he does not NEED peer review

[rustic valve]

You can use whatever your heart desires

[waxen panther]

as we can see spigot 1.17 launched with ZERO problem

[rustic valve]

Daddy perfect 🙄

[waxen panther]

generating new worlds is not important .

[austere ivy]

generating new worlds more like dumb am I right

[waxen panther]

TRUE<

[olive marlin]

Who wants to make new worlds smh

[austere girder]

Wait, did they really have issues with world gen?

[uneven solstice]

wait

how to get beta discord?

[rustic valve]

Why can't people just use one world

[olive marlin]

Yeah, you couldn't make new worlds.

[uneven solstice]

i saw some people here got it

[rustic valve]

You don't

[olive marlin]

Only update existing ones.

[rustic valve]

It's a rollout feature

[waxen panther]

what prof said

[rustic valve]

Pretty sure my banner will say BETA up in the corner if you click my name. T'was a random rollout

[olive marlin]

Brocc epic vegie?

[waxen panther]

😳

[olive marlin]

Very helpful?

[rustic valve]

Brocc eaten veg'd

[olive marlin]

I tried to buy broccoli recently, had to visit 6 shops before I found one selling it/in stock for some reason.

[rustic valve]

wat

But it's such a basic item

[olive marlin]

Ikr

[void void]

Weather in europe sucks rn

[rustic valve]

Shame the stores

[olive marlin]

Broccoli shortage.

[void void]

I want autumn

[rustic valve]

Clearly you don't want to shop there, can't even stock

[olive marlin]

Weather in Europe a bit hot, but epic.

[rustic valve]

"A bit hot"?

[void void]

Bro, 27 degrees Celsius

[rustic valve]

My AC does not agree

[spice ether]

Are you sure you where looking for right broccoli lmao

[rustic valve]

My AC is dying from heat

[wispy blade]

terry a. davis?

[olive marlin]

Can't wait for the grill in a few hours.

[rustic valve]

Will you share?

The grill

I want in on the grill
Not the sauna

[waxen panther]

[rustic valve]

Can walk down the road if I wanna sit in skimpy clothing with old men ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[austere ivy]

what’re you grilling?

[mellow mulch]

tacos

[austere ivy]

that sounds messy

[rustic valve]

Worth a shot

Am curious. How do ya'll organize your cable-boxes?

[twin lagoon]

easy

i don't

[waxen panther]

TRUE

[rustic valve]

Got an ifco box full of cables and wires, finding stuff is ✨ P A I N ✨

[golden gust]

ah, yes, the box

[rustic valve]

The box

[mossy vessel]

very cursed

[golden gust]

Where all the cables that ever existed go to be lost forever

[rustic valve]

The box that everyone asks you to bring out whenever they want a weird cable

And suddenly you can't even find a goddamn usb type b cable, but you just know it's there

[golden gust]

needs some weird ass fuck cable from god knows how long ago, and finds it within 30 seconds in the box

needs a micro usb cable

tears up the entire house

[rustic valve]

Also, PEOPLE WHO BORROW CABLES WITHOUT GIVING BACK

[olive marlin]

Company 10 yar anniversary, idk what will be there.

[rustic valve]

Address?
Can wear bowtie

[austere ivy]

hey, grilling is grilling, I’m sure you’ll have a fun time 😄

[viscid remnant]

you think you can get away with stealing my cables?!?

[golden gust]

Okay, I gotta get a job and shit, and then we gotta strike and harass mojang to host an actual minecon or some shit, and then we gotta meet up, get a few grills, and GRILL ON

#NoVegans

[viscid remnant]

lol ok

[olive marlin]

Especially if you don't have to stand next to grill and only get to consume the food.

[rustic valve]

Have you tried grilled watermelon? 🤤

[golden gust]

Nope

[austere ivy]

I like putting related cables in big plastic bags, prolly isn’t very good for the environment but it’s very reusable so

[rustic valve]

Good.

[golden gust]

Step 1) bound cables up neatly so that they don't bend too tightly and bend

step 2) Come to box months down the line and find a big ball of cables

[rustic valve]

Oh god - How many bags do you have

I once tried to make a spreadsheet list

It... Didn't go well

[golden gust]

better than landfill 🤷‍♂️

[austere ivy]

related

[olive marlin]

Get yourself velcro cable ties (especially modern ones are nice) and bundle things individually and then together.

[rustic valve]

Looking into the box - I just found my old hard drive

Got any recommendations?

[olive marlin]

I also got myself a cheap label printer, super useful.

[rustic valve]

I got a bunch of these a long time ago;

[austere ivy]

velcro cable ties are a good idea, thanks. I thought about using zip ties but that obviously wouldn’t last very long..

[rustic valve]

Pretty decent, but they're large. Also, used them all

[austere ivy]

send it to me :) no identity theft 100% promise 🤗

[rustic valve]

There's also a "knot" method you can use.

[limber knot]

how are they so cuuute?!? https://i.phoenix616.dev/gowy7dPW.png

[rustic valve]

[vernal moth]

raid turned into techno rave

https://i.imgur.com/fmOI24c.png

[twin lagoon]

@restive thicket

[restive thicket]

Good day, Michael!

How are you on this fine day?

[twin lagoon]

epic

[restive thicket]

Lovely to hear.

[dull hill]

What the frick is this theme? Its like white but slightly yellow

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge

iirc some form of solarized

not sure

[wispy blade]

solarized light iirc

[unreal pier]

hi

[vernal moth]

solarized light (material)

as written in the corner

https://i.imgur.com/z7EJ6aV.png

[void void]

first, paper will update

then, Tuinity

[twin lagoon]

ok

[void void]

then, Airplane

[twin lagoon]

yes we get it

[void void]

then, Sodium+Iris for compat

[twin lagoon]

we get it

[vernal moth]

tuinity will be fun, cause the tooling needed for tuinity/paper forks isnt done yet

nor has it ever really been tested

[void void]

then, I love you

[royal kernel]

Then, yatopia

[rustic valve]

All the love

Purpur

[mortal zinc]

well, looks like my suggestion a year ago finally got realized (not actually taking credit for it), nice to see the detailed 1.17 update process

[upbeat falcon]

(See #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785. In the meantime, every time you ask, we postpone it by an hour, so I believe this makes it 378 hours...

[vernal moth]

we started working on this over 2 years ago

[mortal zinc]

ah

well it's quite nice

also congrats for being picked for core

[waxen panther]

Hi michael are you sure you know how forks work?

You seem new

[twin lagoon]

que?

[waxen panther]

Im trolling you

perfect discussion

[royal kernel]

Hola

[coarse urchin]

adios

[royal kernel]

Como esta usted?

[twin lagoon]

needs more upside down question marks

[royal kernel]

English only keyboard

Tambien mi no hablo ingles

[waxen panther]

¿?

[royal kernel]

Im on a phone, so I cant do that

[austere girder]

eh, on an android phone, you can hold down the key for a moment to get more "hidden" characters

[pseudo pelican]

Hey

[austere girder]

Hello!

[waxen panther]

incoming

[royal kernel]

Buenos

[pseudo pelican]

Can someone give me the optimized start.bat real fast?

[rustic valve]

Uh, uh, uuuuh,

iPhone

[pseudo pelican]

Idk the site anymore lol

[void void]

http://google.com

[pseudo pelican]

[pseudo pelican]

https://duckduckgo.com

[rustic valve]

[royal kernel]

Firefox

[rustic valve]

Explorer

[royal kernel]

Tor

[rustic valve]

I lay myself flat in thy awe

[austere girder]

....brave?

[royal kernel]

NO

[olive anchor]

when does paper update to 1.17

[upbeat falcon]

(See #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785. In the meantime, every time you ask, we postpone it by an hour, so I believe this makes it 381 hours...

[austere girder]

mechanical keyboards are great.

[rustic valve]

Whenever I decide to wake up

[olive anchor]

.

[rustic valve]

Oh no you ain't

[olive anchor]

Now get lost u faker

😢😢

[rustic valve]

There we go

[waxen panther]

Tf is going on in here

[olive anchor]

YO IM SECRET

[rustic valve]

Hiiii! 👋

[olive anchor]

Same as me

[waxen panther]

Average age in paper general just halved

[haughty bear]

recommended to use epsilon GC for servers? I heard it's really fast at doing gc

[rustic valve]

Okay, I no longer know wtf is happening myself

[olive anchor]

Sucks to suck

[waxen panther]

needs more slightly offensive gifs

[rustic valve]

Be proud

[olive anchor]

cry 😭

[rustic valve]

Yo

[rustic valve]

I swear god sire, I am of age

[cedar spade]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-gif-4237074

[waxen panther]

god i miss you've been framed

[cedar spade]

that's tv burp smh

[waxen panther]

thats what i meant

its been a long time

i didnt even watch you've been framed lmao

did you ever watch the movie

[cedar spade]

...there was a tv burp movie???

what

no I didn't know this existed

[upbeat falcon]

Harry Hill's TV Burp - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Hill's_TV_Burp
Harry Hill's TV Burp is a British television comedy programme broadcast between 2001 and 2012 on ITV. The show was produced by Avalon Television and was

Requested by mdcfe (he/him) - harry hill tv burp movie - result 1 of 10

[cedar spade]

oh harry hill movie

no I didn't

[waxen panther]

it was unreal

[obtuse hill]

Is paper 1.17 released?

[cunning raft]

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[obtuse hill]

Ok thanks

[rustic valve]

Shouldn't rush this beauty

[worn ember]

paper vc stacked lmao

[rustic valve]

Don't stack me, thx

Weight is bad for the back

[past charm]

hello

[zenith dock]

Hola

[limber knot]

should really use the new stage voice channel stuff for the updating 👀

[quasi valley]

looks at streaming

[vernal moth]

no streaming in those

[past charm]

how are you

[limber knot]

wait what?

I thought that was the whole point

[obsidian phoenix]

Hola

[limber knot]

I guess one could stream via obs virtual cam or something but I thought it just natively supported that lol

[zenith dock]

Como estas ecuatoreño encima del promedio

.w.

[vernal moth]

discord is dum dum phoenix

[limber knot]

or wait, they don't even support video

[vernal moth]

you should know that

[limber knot]

lmao

[vernal moth]

yeah

[obsidian phoenix]

bien

[limber knot]

yeah nto sure what I expected

[obsidian phoenix]

Ya tengo ganas de que salga la ultima version!

[zenith dock]

De que ?

[obsidian phoenix]

Pues del Papel obvio

[zenith dock]

Que es papel

El papel

[obsidian phoenix]

jajajaja

[zenith dock]

No tiene verciones

[obsidian phoenix]

de la 1.17 no tiene aun

[potent fossil]

English plz thx

[obsidian phoenix]

eso estamos esperando

[rustic valve]

Me no understando

Me want understando

[zenith dock]

:0

[obsidian phoenix]

Te enseño español?

[rustic valve]

no

[obsidian phoenix]

Porque no

Que es understando?

[rustic valve]

The Queen's tale

[zenith dock]

:v creo que papel se enojó

[obsidian phoenix]

No lo creo, es amigable.

[potent fossil]

Yo entiendo Español pero este es un server inglés, so use English 😘 Thanks

[obsidian phoenix]

Que buen español.

[primal isle]

hola

[obsidian phoenix]

Hola tu tambien hablas ingles?

[primal isle]

mas o menos

[potent fossil]

whatever

[zenith dock]

.-. No se ingles solo frances y basico

[potent fossil]

children infestation

[rustic valve]

[ornate dirge]

how much would cost me to send a cool beer/cocacola to every dev member of paper and spigot?

[zenith dock]

[potent fossil]

just contribute to mini's beer vault

[obsidian phoenix]

I know little ingles

[rustic valve]

Learn more

[potent fossil]

I thought I saw you guys speaking English earlier today

🤔

[obsidian phoenix]

I dont think so

[twin lagoon]

[obsidian phoenix]

perdon no lo creo.

[rustic valve]

Just did

[obsidian phoenix]

xD

[rustic valve]

[potent fossil]

Just use https://www.deepl.com/en/translator

It's better than Google.

[rustic valve]

If it's better than Google

why hasn't Google bought and ruined it yet

[primal isle]

de ingles entiendo un poco y es que mas que todo me da miedo escribir en ingles por problemas de ortografia, que luego no entienden algo porque escribo mal, ademas el traductor casi siempre dice cosas muy raras

[potent fossil]

Who knows

[ornate dirge]

donated to mini and to md

[rustic valve]

What even

People really like throwing random symbols together

[potent fossil]

Use DeepL then

It will translate better.

[primal isle]

lo intentare

[potent fossil]

👍

[past charm]

ok

[minor otter]

Hei Mariell 😮

[rustic valve]

Nonononono, English. Not Scandic 😠

[minor otter]

!!

😦

[rustic valve]

Much love

Many huggles

[past charm]

scandic

that is not a language!

[minor otter]

Norway

❤️

What is the max streaming limit on discord?

[rustic valve]

I was going to say Norwegian, but I didn't want to risk a "Ha, it's Swedish/Danish!", so I just gave a summation of them. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[minor otter]

Clever man

[mild sonnet]

Hi

can someone help me?

[rustic valve]

Sadly not

We tried very hard, but in the end, it just wasn’t enough 😞

[brave radish]

smh md so racist

publishing spigot while the US is asleep

how dare he do that when he's on the other side the world

[twin lagoon]

imagine giving a fuck about the US

[rustic valve]

Bangladesh’ where it’s at

[minor otter]

Is the stream on twitch or something?

[rustic valve]

Jaaas

[tacit ingot]

are they done with 1.17 yet?

[twin lagoon]

no

[tacit ingot]

ok

[rustic valve]

Haven’t woken up yet, sorry.

[minor otter]

link?

[rustic valve]

https://www.twitch.tv/minidigger_

[radiant oriole]

[minor badge]

don't think anyone took over yet

am out to grocery shop a bit and make or order dinner, not entirely sure yet

[rustic valve]

Oh, sad

Grocery shopping

In Sweden?

[minor badge]

yees

[worn ember]

brocc streaming cookie clicker instead lmfao

[rustic valve]

They’re crazies, bring a helmet

[minor otter]

Imagine shopping in sweden

[minor badge]

I live in a safe neighborhood

[rustic valve]

Dude

Imagine living in Sweden

[minor otter]

true

[minor badge]

At least the price is half of yours

[ashen cliff]

Lidl.

[rustic valve]

Nono, actually, imagine choosing to live in Sweden

[minor otter]

I feel so sorry for you. When you have norway so close!

[worn ember]

Aldi

[minor badge]

I chose to leave Norway smh

[ashen cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kBcm-ls8Y

[rustic valve]

Just blink Mari, we will send an extraction team

[minor otter]

well this is true 😦

[minor badge]

reminder that you blink 66% less when looking at a monitor

remember to take breaks

[worn ember]

lmao wtf

[ashen cliff]

At least listen to it.

[rustic valve]

Sadly, the prices are getting pretty similar

[worn ember]

i am

[rustic valve]

I want, but I’m watching someone drive their car for an hour and fifteen minutes.

Then they’ll shred some comments

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon doughnuts ?

[rustic valve]

I’ll take two

[minor badge]

you get none!

[twin lagoon]

yes

[minor badge]

Michael gets many

[twin lagoon]

paper docs MR merge wen

[minor otter]

"stuff that went wrong.txt" ~ MiniDiggers desktop

[ashen cliff]

Everything.

[twin lagoon]

germany

[minor badge]

now

[twin lagoon]

k where's my Contributor role

[minor badge]

nowhere .

[twin lagoon]

wtf

.

[minor badge]

i do not control who is contrib

yell at mini

pay for my dinner and I'll yell for you xxx

[twin lagoon]

I have contributed 20 lines of code to PaperDocs & Paper combined, where is my Contributor role??!?!?!?!?!!?!?! @vernal moth

[worn ember]

same i did like 20 lines to hangar readme wheres my hangar role

[twin lagoon]

@restive thicket hjalp

[16:12:20 ERROR] Failed to encrypt message
java.security.InvalidKeyException: Invalid AES key length: 294 bytes

i did geyser updatey and now it brokey

[ashen cliff]

Also while we have you here. How can I change the UUID that Geyser sends to Floodgate?

[restive thicket]

Did you change out the key for Floodgate 2.0?

[twin lagoon]

wat

[ashen cliff]

You didn't read the manual?

[twin lagoon]

of course not

[ashen cliff]

Very good.

Proud of you Balkan brother.

[twin lagoon]

what do i do

[ashen cliff]

Get a key that works.

[sage herald]

Where can I fin spigot 1.17?

I can't find it

[ashen cliff]

Buildtools.

[brave radish]

run buildtools with version set to 1.17

[carmine otter]

Thank you paper team, y’all are great. Appreciate the work

[sage herald]

Where is to put the version?

[brave radish]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/spigot-bungeecord-1-17.510208/

it tells you there ^^

just ctrl+f buildtools if you don't wanna read it

[sage herald]

And this BuildTools are like server.jar

no?

[brave radish]

no

BuildTools is a tool to build server.jar

then you run server.jar

[twin lagoon]

read the buildtools guide

[brave radish]

(except it'll be named like spigot-1.17.jar)

[sage herald]

I only want to start setting up the plugins

What plugins are updated to 1.17?

[twin lagoon]

try it and see

there's a million plugins out there

no one is going to list all of them

[brave radish]

Oh, yeah, lemme go list every single Spigot plugin on the marketplace and which ones work for you :P

[sage herald]

XD

[twin lagoon]

Please connect through the official Geyser

what the fuck

[sage herald]

But there isn't a tag?

Like a 1.17 tag

Plugins like essentials are not updated

[limber knot]

I know that mine does work but requires a bit of work

[upbeat falcon]

BuildTools | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/buildtools/
Apr 6, 2021, Running BuildTools(top) · Open your terminal if you are on Linux, or git bash on Windows. Git bash can be found on the desktop or in the Start

Requested by Mariell (she/her) - spigotmc buildtools - result 1 of 10

[twin lagoon]

@restive thicket

[minor badge]

read the wiki

[limber knot]

But I recommend to wait a bit for most plugins to update

[brave radish]

Lots of them will work out of the box but no one has tested them yet

[limber knot]

You standard 1.7 plugins that have worked even until 1.15 should still work

[brave radish]

so there's no way to know which ones work without just trying them

(unless the author says they do or don't)

[ripe sphinx]

Aside from a handful of things that don't touch ingame stuff like Luckperms, DiscordSRV, etc, most things will need time to update.

[sage herald]

nooo

I have nitro

[rotund jetty]

lmao

[waxen panther]

no point gifting here, all the bots will get it

[ripe sphinx]

too late now

[rotund jetty]

lmao

im bored

[ripe sphinx]

something will have already nabbed it

[sage herald]

why?

[waxen panther]

all the bots will get it

[twin lagoon]

  # The disconnect message Geyser users should get when connecting
  # to the server with an invalid key
  invalid-key: Please connect through the official Geyser

k am dum

[warm anchor]

such a good time being a bot in public channel huh?

[twin lagoon]

try it and see

it may still work

[ripe sphinx]

Luck just hasn't updated the site yet (1.17 has only been out for like 9h)

[sage herald]

thanks

What?

What do you mean with affiliate?

Oh ok

[stable lily]

eta on paper?

[twin lagoon]

.eta

[limber knot]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[stable lily]

Yeah the first 3 steps have gone pretty fast

[twin lagoon]

no eta

[stable lily]

why does this one take so long tho?

[twin lagoon]

because now they've come to the hard/time-consuming part

[stable lily]

😩

good luck to the dev team 👍

[tender swift]

@stable lily changing from maven to gradle + from meme mappings to mojang mappings

[stable lily]

why would they move to gradle lol

[twin lagoon]

because maven is ass

[worn ember]

cuz its more flexible

[stable lily]

[tender swift]

and faster i think

with repeating stuff

[austere ivy]

faster in not quotes

it's just plainly faster

after the first build, that is

[tender swift]

havent used it that much so thats why the quotes

[worn ember]

just write less code lol

[ripe sphinx]

so far idk, I tried to run paperweight this morning & it took half an hour. It takes the old scripts about 10 minutes for me...still, it's a WIP, greatness is not made overnight

[worn ember]

forge also takes like 7 minutes to build, but yeah doubt it'd be faster with maven, if even possible xD

[brave radish]

Forge decompiles Minecraft for every mod I believe

[waxen panther]

It will be slower yes

gradle caches everything though

[dull patio]

what's hangar and waterfall?

[worn ember]

no, forge itself

[waxen panther]

Hangar is an upcoming plugin repo and waterfall is a bungee fork

[austere ivy]

is it slower because of gradle or because it has to do mojang mappings?

[dull patio]

plugin repo?

[waxen panther]

Because it has to remap and unmap etc

yeah like spigot resources

[austere ivy]

ah ok

[dull patio]

don't know what that is lol
pretty new to this server stuff

[waxen panther]

People upload plugins to spigots site so people can download them

This will replace that

[worn ember]

the site where you get your plugins

[dull patio]

oohhhh okay

[rustic valve]

gib

[copper cedar]

@delicate field :(

???????

cap

[austere ivy]

@kazhí

[rustic valve]

Ping more. It’s the only way

[olive anchor]

A

Devs pls get rid of 1.6.5 faster

I need to join a smp that has paper

Please

[warm anchor]

watch #❗-1-17 for eta.

[rustic valve]

Oi - Is there some wavy ass rainbow gif I can overlay onto the white in my picture?

That would look cool

[brave radish]

TheGuyWhoCauseDramaInServers#5946

[olive anchor]

what

[rustic valve]

I’m tired. No wakey. 😴

[olive anchor]

?

[warm anchor]

@olive anchor how old are you btw? curious

[magic river]

Arguably step 2 on that issue shouldn't be checked

[olive anchor]

16 and a half

[worn ember]

[unkempt drift]

Amaranth, didnt mini do that last night?

[magic river]

Something was hacked together to let the build process go through API patches but it wasn't done and then that whole system was completely thrown out

[warm anchor]

Come on ded where is my full custom world gen support?? @worn ember

[worn ember]

im struggling man

[rustic valve]

Struggle faster

[worn ember]

ACF is not autocompleting anymore and idk why kek

[rustic valve]

I’m waiting

I don’t know what stuff you do, but I’m waiting

[magic river]

[rustic valve]

Happy emote

Want

[magic river]

[rustic valve]

[magic river]

Stolen emotes *smh*

[icy osprey]

Is there anywhere/anyway to donate cryptocurrency to Paper/Waterfall projects?

[rustic valve]

Lets me put them in my own private server ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brave radish]

There is no "Paper donation" button; people donate to the devs directly
idk if any of them take crypto though

[fleet ginkgo]

@pulsar scaffold sup

[minor badge]

long

and now its an hour longer

[icy osprey]

Cool, just a big supporter of all the great work the team here is doing and wanted to send them some crypto

[copper cedar]

@delicate field dont ask them about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cmon dude 😔

[uncut kindle]

For some reason, debug and perf in 1.17 vanilla show conflicting tps results. debug will return ~20tps after ~10 seconds, and perf will return ~14.5tps after ~10 seconds. anyone got any clue why that is?

[brave radish]

idk, try running them some more

maybe the TPS actually went down

[minor badge]

did you run them simultaneously?

[uncut kindle]

Nah, should I try that? I did try running them multiple times to try and get debug to show ~14.5

[rustic valve]

You can go play smp right now if you want

Just boot it up

[icy osprey]

Do you know where/who to ask about donating crypto the the dev team here??

[brave radish]

Only the dev you want to donate to

[true canyon]

I suspect they're a bit busy working on the update. :D

(or sleeping)

[icy osprey]

yeah I bet

[brave radish]

They all have different options; you can look at their GitHub pages though

[magic river]

Cool, my work signed up for one of those employee discount services

[rustic valve]

Do you get good discount tho

[magic river]

I used one of those for my last laptop, combined with a black friday sale I ended up getting a $2000 laptop for half off

[meager tusk]

Cool story bro

[rustic valve]

Noice

Share the discounts, yah?

[magic river]

Looks like this one has HP, Dell, and Lenovo in it too so could probably do something like that again

[uncut kindle]

Mariell, I ran them as close to simultaneously as possible and debug does return a low TPS. I just cannot get it to return a low TPS by itself. If I had to guess, /perf is a lot heavier to run but I could be wrong?

[icy osprey]

No way to let them know I want to donate it and let who is interested from the team respond?

[magic river]

The whole thing is tied to my work email so no, no sharing 😛

[brave radish]

I mean, not really. Other than just saying it here (like you did) and hoping one of them sees it

[rustic valve]

Uh

Gib email

[brave radish]

If they have emails public you could email them about it if you want 🤷‍♂️

[icy osprey]

Hey paper/waterfall people, I want to donate some Ethereum to your team for the great work 🙂

[potent fossil]

I'm not sure any of them has an eth wallet

[waxen panther]

I’ll take it 😎😎 /s

[icy osprey]

metamask is free and easy to use.. there are other wallets too... a few thousand dollars in eth is worth making a wallet imo

[twin lagoon]

for such donations you can probably ask @cosmic raft

[potent fossil]

[twin lagoon]

kashike can probably sort it out

[coarse marlin]

just let chester manage it.

[icy osprey]

oh, I ❤️ chester

I trust him with all my cryptos

[worn ember]

just convert it to $$$ and donate that?

[brave radish]

Does PayPal let you pay with crypto? I know GitHub takes PayPal and the devs have sponsors set up so you could pay that way if you want

[twin lagoon]

not really

[cosmic raft]

hm?

[twin lagoon]

someone wants to donate through eth

you have a kraken exchange account

[cosmic raft]

who? lots of text here

[twin lagoon]

@icy osprey

[icy osprey]

me 🙂

[twin lagoon]

a few thousand dollars in eth is worth making a wallet imo

[coarse marlin]

you just need an address in a wallet, to recieve

[icy osprey]

bad time to trade eth for $$ better time to hold for a later trade at a better price

[worn ember]

for all i care they can all drop to 0$ lol

[twin lagoon]

hodl

[waxen panther]

Thank you ded, pointless comment as usual

👍

[icy osprey]

you are entitled to that opinion ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worn ember]

thank you brocc i try my best

[twin lagoon]

@cosmic raft i'd recommend creating a metamask wallet first as he said

and then transfer over to kraken

[icy osprey]

(she)

[twin lagoon]

she*

[void void]

lets GET TO WORK PAPER TEAM

LETS GO

[brave radish]

[potent fossil]

they're going, no need to yell sir

[meager tusk]

Go where?

[void void]

to mc headquaters

[meager tusk]

Ok

[worn ember]

dogelore

[waxen panther]

Cringe server

Good emotes

[coarse marlin]

[left swift]

No u

[autumn fern]

so there's almost 800 patches. how many have been "worked on" so far? im not sure what the correct term would be lol

[magic river]

0

[left swift]

#❗-1-17

[magic river]

0 server patches have been updated to 1.17 so far

[vernal moth]

Did proxi do a few earlier?

[autumn fern]

i thought they said 10 earlier, maybe that was something else

[vernal moth]

Didn't*

[magic river]

I thought she was remapping them for 1.16.5

[vernal moth]

That step I did earlier automatically

[magic river]

Oh, they're all remapped already?

[vernal moth]

The fixing of remap and update to 1.17 we do in one step

Yeah, that's paperweight magic

750 patches in under 2 hours

[magic river]

1.17 update should be a snap then 😛

[autumn fern]

damn son

[magic river]

Most of it should apply cleanly or with little effort

A few pieces will take forever

[vernal moth]

Nah remap needs adjustments, like removing obf helpers

And then you got the normal mc update

[magic river]

Removing obf helpers wasn't a part of remap?

[vernal moth]

Proxi was at the initial patches, those are hard, after that in theory it should be faster, ye

[glossy mica]

How is Mariell not blind with that light theme

[vernal moth]

Nah, remap is automatically, we can't do that kinda stuff there

[waxen panther]

Because she has normal functioning eyes and doesn’t sit in a basement all day

[vernal moth]

And most obf helpers are fine, initallly we only remove conflicting ones

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/bbAoy.gif

[uncut kindle]

there are people who don't sit in basements?

[worn ember]

why

[vernal moth]

Mapping viewer is broken generally I think

[glossy mica]

There's outside?

[vernal moth]

Just automate it too myokan

[worn ember]

i sit on the first floor

[vernal moth]

It's super easy

Just steal the files paperweight creates

And then it's 5 lines of code to run mercury

[left swift]

I wish I was in a basement, 95 degree weather on the 2nd floor and no ac is miserable

[vernal moth]

Like, if you wait now and remind me, I can write you that in minutes

[glossy mica]

Could've been 96 degrees 🥲

[left swift]

Could be wendys

[uncut kindle]

gets to like 87.8 in my room, but by then i'm already crying to be saved

[vernal moth]

Paperweight files for the paper branch are in .Gradle Task Caches or smth

Mercury is on cadix GitHub

Its the source code remapping tool that was written for this year's ago

[uncut kindle]

we goin to the chocolate factory?

[icy osprey]

https://tenor.com/wCo5.gif

ummmm..... but I want a golden goose

[magic river]

Wait don't say Bukkit, I didn't do that 😛

[twin lagoon]

what's the new name for playerchunkmap

[magic river]

Ok I think I did do that

[twin lagoon]

lol

[vernal moth]

Rip world

[magic river]

iirc it was a subclass at one point?

[vernal moth]

Long live serverlevel

[magic river]

Maybe not though

We liked to put things like Player, Entity, Packet, etc at the start or end of our names

Because we didn't have packages 😛

[burnt snow]

Hey, sorry this is of topic but has papermc been updated for the newest mc version? Thanks

[twin lagoon]

no

[burnt snow]

Thanks michale and myokan

[left swift]

Hey, sorry this is of topic but has michael been updated for the newest cool version?

[twin lagoon]

wtf

[left swift]

Ur 2 cool versions behind michael

😎

[rustic valve]

He was on the correct version at some point?

[left swift]

2 versions ago

[rustic valve]

Calling bull

[void void]

hi

[brave radish]

kitty pfp is ❤️

[rustic valve]

@void void, that did not work

[void void]

?

WHY U PONG MEH

[left swift]

No ping you ping everyone

[void void]

?

[worn ember]

Yes

thats whatcha get for naming yourself everyone

[torn rivet]

Russian here!