seems alright
#general
novel horizon
lean kiln
slow
dull linden
months
shell vine
mailbox more like dumpster!
waxen panther
For $5 a month you can be entered into a lottery that may half your waiting time!
dull linden
does it take 5 business days to send too
novel horizon
or double the time
waxen panther
Thatβs the $10 tier
novel horizon
viral hornet
spare owl
Can someone help me please
viral hornet
Whats up
brave radish
7 years, 7 months, 14 days old today
viral hornet
Yeah it's gross
brave radish
people also use beta 1.7.3 π€·ββοΈ
novel horizon
im older π
viral hornet
Imagine missing out on A X O L O T L S
unkempt drift
people also use beta 1.7.3 π€·ββοΈ
is that the last with the far lands or smth?
novel horizon
nice
dull linden
why do people still utitlize 1.7?
brave radish
is that the last with the far lands or smth?
idek
brave radish
This was also the last version to feature the old pre-Beta 1.8 terrain generator with the random terrain.
Due to the above, this was also the last version where the player could visit the Far Lands.
This was also the last version to include a dirt background in the title screen.
so yes Machine
lol I already knew there was a fork of Beta 1.7.3 but here's a complete rewrite https://github.com/andrewvy/HHVMCraft
unkempt drift
php
brave radish
ask the people who rewrote the bedrock server with a plugin API in PHP π
shell vine
because php is the best 
viral hornet
Hmm
magic ice
PocketMine 
warm anchor
worn ember
php uwu
slim light
Who can help me install java 16?
true canyon
peak ginkgo
.java16
limber knotBOT
Follow the guide for how to update to Java 16 here: https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html
viral hornet
@true canyon 
true canyon
hi :3
viral hornet
Congrats on becoming Mod π
waxen panther
yes
slim light
HotSpot or OpenJ9
wind geyser
not my fault that the server owners haven't gone to newer versions
wraith trail
hotspot @slim light
slim light
So apt install adoptopenjdk-16-hotspot-jre
wraith trail
yeah sounds right
viral hornet
you got a problem with that?
Latest only pls π₯Ί
wind geyser
not my fault that the server owners haven't gone to newer versions
@viral hornet
warm anchor
well looks like you need a new server owner
viral hornet
RIP Travertine
dusty robin
anyone using papermc on a single board computer? like a raspberry pi?
brave radish
A few people have, but (surprise!) it doesn't work very well
I don't personally; I just see people posting timings reports
I don't own a 4 and I wouldn't even consider running Paper on a <4 if you are
dusty robin
I ask because I've curious how people that have, how it's been for them
olive patio
Is it possible to use chat components in my lang file for my resourcepack?
true canyon
I ask because I've curious how people that have, how it's been for them
Judging by the occasional threads I see about it, terrible.
dusty robin
I've had good luck so far
me and two others just played for about an hour and tickrate was ~18-19
void void
Hello! I'm setting up a casino Minecraft server and I'm looking for some testers to test our server for any problems and give general feedback. Message me for information.
warm anchor
yeah 'let's add gambling for kids!
brave radish
@unkempt drift you didn't put your name in that reminder so it's gonna randomly say to ask for a Paper eta with no context
warm anchor
that's the point (?)
unkempt drift
Oh yeah. Well thatβs even better
warm anchor
unkempt drift
I didnβt realize that at first, but thatβs better
warm anchor
hahahaa
unkempt drift
Need to get the bot banned
brave radish
,remind 1d Paper 1.17 wen?
unkempt drift
.remind 3d when will paper 1.17 be ready?
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot: Reminder set for 3 days from now.
unkempt drift
Gotta do a . Zcm
brave radish
that was the point
unkempt drift
Mods asleep btw. Spam reminds
brave radish
I didn't actually want to do it
unkempt drift
π
brave radish
Yatopia released?
brave radish
in case anyone reads this a year from now Machine's nickname is "MM[ΚΗp ΙΔ±doΚΙβ - 1.17 out now]"
or it was a moment ago lol
magic river
A rpi4 probably has more oomph than a lot of VPS providers
But I wouldn't try to run more than a server for a few friends on it
brave radish
just certainly don't use a 3 or even a 3B+
magic river
Definitely not, there was a massive boost between 3 and 4
rustic valve
No more goblin feed? π¦
vestal jasper
I killed the goblins for giving ETAs
brave radish
1.17 when
vestal jasper
.lart ZombieChickenMan
limber knotBOT
dispenses ZombieChickenMan's email address to a few hundred 'bulk mailing services'.
brave radish
.lart ZombieChickenMan
I was testing sulu's bot
vestal jasper
too late
true canyon
I'm sure we can take care of bot testing π
magic river
Wait were you always red?
warm anchor
.kill xombieChickenMan
limber knotBOT
gets some friends together and shivs xombieChickenMan a few times.
unkempt drift
brave radish
@ mods EterNity is being mean again π₯Ί
true canyon
Wait were you always red?
Latest #announcements
magic river
If I bring fish can I do whatever I want without being banned?
viral hornet
The update tracking issue proxi made is really awesome
true canyon
Hey don't go messing up my first day on the job! pass it over in little bites thanks
dull linden
β Not using Aikar's flags FIX THIS
dusty robin
Created a script that launched with those arguments and found a huge drop in performance
so I don't use them
dull linden
i guess, it's a raspberry pi so don't expect top-tier performance, but it's pretty cool for the most part
solid sapphire
please feed me to goblins i am asking for an eta on an eta on an eta on when i today will be finished
and i broke discord
vestal jasper
you're not gonna get one
also there's a point where eta jokes get as annoying as people asking for etas tbqh
unkempt drift
Well, paper has to wait for spigot
vestal jasper
why do you not know?
unkempt drift
And thatβs 1 unknown
Then, no one knows how long itβs gonna take to update all of papers patches after spigot updates
magic river
Doesn't <#!849485737748594699> explain why?
Bleh, botched that
Oh, she swapped it out for the issue link
Look at the issue link
solid sapphire
Doesn't <#!849485737748594699> explain why?
<@!id> iirc
wraith trail
[#β-1-17](/guild/289587909051416579/channel/849485737748594699/)
magic river
I want to link a channel, not a user
unkempt drift
Oh that was updated, nice. Yeah, that has a bunch of detail into the process
wraith trail
just this link @void void https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
magic river
Someone thought it was funny for the channel name to be something you can't type
wraith trail
it explains everything
minor badge
you can reference it with typing 1-17
unkempt drift
Can type it
magic river
How does that work? Substring match I guess?
minor badge
yeah
magic river
Could just replace .eta with that link
minor badge
not entirely sure how good it is, but works at least
magic river
Makes it a real answer
limber knotBOT
.addcmd eta (See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
smart :)
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
magic river
Oh, different bot for that one, right
true canyon
Perhaps without the auto embed? Just to minimize screen filling. Thoughts?
magic river
Can the bot do that?
brave radish
if you put it in <> probably
magic river
I wasn't sure if the alligators stayed in the final message or not
minor badge
remind me later, gotta get ready for work
true canyon
.addcmd eta (See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
unkempt drift
Rejected
limber knotBOT
need to be on irc
true canyon
You gotta be kidding me.
viral hornet
remind me later, gotta get ready for work
Have fun at work 
limber knotBOT
can't check perms through bridge
magic river
Time to make @upbeat falcon do factoids too π
limber knotBOT
Not sure I have any power. Shrug. Sleep time
vestal jasper
really, giving ETAs when unnecessary is like shooting yourself in the foot
there's factors that are hard to time and give proper estimates on, so doing so is meh
magic river
I'd say ask them but you'd probably just get banned
Programming is a craft, an art, more than it's a science
It's hard to know how long something is going to take beforehand
vestal jasper
also the fact that apart from mojang every single person in this process is a volunteer
magic river
Mojang doesn't know until like right before the vanilla release when it'll actually happen
vestal jasper
spigot, paper, forks, are all done in the respective dev's free time
yes I have a job ty for your concern
meager tusk
Yeah Josh but do you make money though
swift root
@minor badge morning uwu
vestal jasper
oh no sorry I misread, yeah I have a job but I make no money @meager tusk /s
magic river
They seem to try to do two releases a year these days but this time they had to chop a bunch of features off and try to polish up what was left to get this release out, they were taking too long
vestal jasper
keyword try
magic river
Yeah, this release was taking too long, that's what I said π
lime oak
what
vestal jasper
semi new discord bug afaik
vestal jasper
you're asking in paper, so paper
magic river
I got the impression Purpur is an attempt at someone making their own Minecraft-like game while still being compatible with Minecraft
Like, vanilla-compatible modding
magic river
Although maybe I'm reading too much in to it and it's just Paper + TrainCarts
lime oak
Purpur started off as a personal fork that ended up turning into a features fork
vestal jasper
5% vs 95% however
magic river
Completely redoing vehicle controls and physics would be hard to do for a plugin, yeah
lime oak
that's best done by a plugin
magic river
iirc billy used to maintain that plugin
lime oak
at most the server software opens up configurability
vestal jasper
yes, that used to be a plugin but he moved it into his fork because patching the behaviour in is easier for him amaranth
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by _11#0011 - paper timber plugin - result 1 of 10
magic river
iirc I ended up hating it because it caused a lot of issues due to how it was trying to patch in to things so deeply
lime oak
no buttons to click through the results or did i overlook them disappearing?
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by James-Wae#5713 - test - result 3 of 10
vestal jasper
they disappeared
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by James-Wae#5713 - cool - result 4 of 8
magic river
No more messing with the bot, thanks
minor badge
<@!181470050039889920> morning uwu
good morning
waxen panther
good morning mari!
minor badge
good morning
worn crest
Good morning
limber knotBOT
.addcmd eta (See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
there ya go, bax
vernal moth
Today is the day!
magic river
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
magic river
limber knotBOT
Go back to bed, Mini :> We need you at the fullest
vernal moth
Proxi, maybe edit your message in #β-1-17 that the issue also contains a high level explanation of what we do
I wish, I gotta dig in legacy jsp generating cms crap today at work
magic river
Mini at the fullest? Better start drinking now 
waxen panther
mini didnt quit his job to work on paper? wtf!
magic river
I, uh, kind of did that once
livid swan
Is .network a good tld for a server?
worn crest
Too long
vernal moth
It's as good or bad as any new tld
And no, it's not too long, most ppls domain names are longer than that
worn crest
.net .com .mc or if it's a national server than like ur country like .de or .us
Would I take
ripe sphinx
.mc aint a thing
waxen panther
it is if you have a company in monaco 
wispy blade
imagine .online
cosmic raft
hi
worn crest
Hi kashike
wispy blade
i'd say its pretty nice
livid swan
Thanks. Theres another minebox so now I'm not too sure π
worn crest
Too long in my opinion
livid swan
It's a .es
lime oak
bad SEO if something by the same name already exists
livid swan
Yeah. What do you think about sandboxcraft.com? Also long?
worn crest
The TLS is better
worn crest
.net .com .mc or if it's a national server than like ur country like .de or .us
Like I said here
livid swan
Wait, tls is better for com net ?
livid swan
Oh tld u mean I thinj
lime oak
tld, not tls :P
worn crest
Ye π₯²
livid swan
π Was confused ngl
worn crest
I know the full spelling but not the shortening π
livid swan
Reminds me of tldr so not big deal π
So if you had a choice between the following, which would you pick?
wispy blade
imo they're all just as bad
wispy blade
they're generic
lime oak
generic, yeah
worn crest
As example hypixel is short and not a word mix from a generator
lime oak
unique & memorable
wispy blade
hi pizzel
livid swan
Problem is, if I use pixel in the name, it automatically becomes a ripoff π
worn crest
Wow...
worn crest
Think of something that user can memorize & unique
meager tusk
memorizable and unique is a little difficult to pull off
worn crest
And not a ripp of from other server because user know it and punish you with no player on it 
meager tusk
Fact!
wispy blade
Fact!
wispy blade
yes
plucky canopy
mk so like
say I have a server that's excited for the
1.17 update
And theyre expecting it tmr
worn crest
Have a bunch of people
plucky canopy
yeah thats what i figured
worn crest
Imagine vanilla
lime oak
just slap ViaVersion in and call it a week
frank otter
There's a gh issue for it
plucky canopy
just slap ViaVersion in and call it a week
i mean but thats not update
frank otter
plucky canopy
should I just go vanilla until paper releases?
wispy blade
yes
worn crest
No
frank otter
If you really really want 1.17 yes
plucky canopy
well the players are expecting it
ripe sphinx
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
plucky canopy
again, im aware of the documentation
frank otter
If they can't wait you will have to go vanilla
frank otter
Make world backups in case something goes wrong with transferring it
plucky canopy
its a regular old SMP so vanilla should be fine, just gonna be a pain
frank otter
Oh yeah that ought to work
plucky canopy
Make world backups in case something goes wrong with transferring it
i figured i'd just reset
because new chunks n whatnot
frank otter
oh good point
plucky canopy
dang okay
frank otter
I'm not sure about this but do worlds from a vanilla server tra sfer nicelyto a paper one
frank otter
somaybe jurn run vanilla and then try transfer when paper comes out
plucky canopy
you could have some issues, sometimes with chests and inventories, playerdata, etc
frank otter
oh wait I remember inv problems
plucky canopy
mhm
meager tusk
well the players are expecting it
they can expect to wait
plucky canopy
lmao yeah
im just the server owner that didnt tell them they'd have to wait because i completely forgot ab the whole paper thing
i assumed they have already been able to work on it by now but I was dead wrong, ofc they havent been able to
why would they have access
makes complete sense now, just went over my head
lime oak
in an ideal world they would have access
plucky canopy
alas unfortunately not
so my only option is go vanilla and wait
unless some other server software magically has 1.17 support
which would probably be impossible if not illegal
olive marlin
Spigot should release first.
minor badge
spong 
plucky canopy
well they are releasing first, but only after the full 1.17 update
and thereafter paper will follow
meager tusk
spong <:spongeeyes:499996242034819072>
Mari !
plucky canopy
bc paper uses the spigot API
minor badge
it is
meager tusk
Ok Good Making Sure btw
waxen panther
meager tusk
also is sponge still in the works?
plucky canopy
lemme check
lime oak
always has been
meager tusk
i thought it went π after 1.12?
olive marlin
Ok Discord, how can you have a message reply to a later sent message?
limber knotBOT
sponge kinda got hit by waiting for Forge's 1.13 rewrite, and trying to do its own rewrite while a lot of the core team had real life come up
sponge is MIT-licensed
plucky canopy
Ok Discord, how can you have a message reply to a later sent message?
hahahah
my man replying in the future past?
olive marlin
Pencil is so good, it can predict messages.
untold copper
day 4 of trying to get abs: everything hurts. i will do yoga later on today
wispy blade
imagine not having natural abs
olive garden
as mini said, you are supposed to rest your muscles
it's an important part of training
if you want to constantly work out, then work with different muscles on different days
untold copper
sunday is rest day
olive garden
not enough
untold copper
imagine not having natural abs
wtf
wispy blade
dont skip leg day
olive garden
not sure how's that relevant to having abs
wispy blade
im 15
waxen panther
π¬
wispy blade
hang on lemme flex rq
untold copper
.
wispy blade
the mouth thing is a meme
olive garden
abs are cool, but you can only show them off at summer
why do you want them so much?
olive garden
more like, why do you specifically want abs?
untold copper
idk
sudden motivation
its probably just a phase
but still i will get abs atleast once in my life
wispy blade
tip i got from some dude: do 5 pushups everytime you ||bust a nut||
or any other bad habit for that matter
olive garden
I guess that works well if you follow advice from The Wolf of Wall Street as well
wispy blade
exactly
wispy blade
o/
twin lagoon
hello kazheek
cosmic raft
hallo @twin lagoon
twin lagoon
brocc 
potent fossil
good morning 
olive garden
I would be a haskell supremacy enjoyer if I hadn't forget everything I learned in the last semester about it
potent fossil
anyone with php skills, could i bother you to quickly look through this pr and lemme know if anything glaringly idiotic pops out to you? would like at least 1 or 2 LGTMs if possible, cause i am not super into PHP so its entirely possible i messed up somewhere thanks babes https://github.com/SpigotMC/XenforoResourceManagerAPI/pull/38
potent fossil
unfortunately it isnt but glare and I run mcbanners which has to support spigot, sponge, and when hangar comes out it will support paper too
since XF 1.x does not have an API for RM, we need that GH project to access spigot data
(and anyone else can access spigot data via it, as a side effect, as well)
vernal moth
No brocc, simple good, that PR implements a feature request of mine
We can now yoink the description of resources in bb code, so we can make a one click spigot to hangar transfer flow
waxen panther
potent fossil
vernal moth
So I'll def be testing that once it's live
potent fossil
I didn't know that's what it was for but that's great
vernal moth
I made lax do the feature request so it's not obvious, lol
potent fossil
beautiful
vernal moth
In theory that endpoint allows me to scrape all spigot resource and rehost them on hangar automatically π
Inb4 I get IP banned
potent fossil
anyway yea, since it's so big, md wants at least 1 (pref 2, more the merrier) external set of eyes to look at that php before it can go in
its all v simple code tho
vernal moth
anyone with php skills, could i bother you to quickly look through this pr and l...
@night forum, you bored right? Could you give this php code a quick glance to make sure simple didn't do a dum dum?
You are like the only php guy I know that's left, lol
woven otter
In theory that endpoint allows me to scrape all spigot resource and rehost them ...
Inb4 md_5 reads this chat
quasi valley
@unkempt drift yatopia 1.17 wen?
unkempt drift
Already out
ashen cliff
Very good.
stray oyster
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
stray oyster
aww I liked the old one better
waxen panther
<@&748618676189528155>
swift root
!ban 776634504772452362 Sending malicious exes
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned kanji#0619 (Sending malicious exes) [1 total infraction] -- Larry#6086.
stray oyster
olive marlin
aww I liked the old one better
You mean the one that comes up when you ask when paper 1.17 will be released?
stray oyster
its a trojan-downloader
olive marlin
Oh, it didn't come up here 
proven dune
Funny that malwarebytes didnβt catch that, but ig depends on how it uses MWB
ashen cliff
Windows defender even catches it. 
waxen panther
did you actually run it
proven dune
Goodness no.
Itβs just in the list
Wonder if the Premium MWB changes how it detects malware/trojans
ashen cliff
They probably used advanced checks for that.
wispy blade
that'll always be the case loll
ashen cliff
Cisco has insane hardware for layer 7 stuff. Tho there aren't many people who can afford to drop 1 million per year just for a firewall.
wispy blade
1 mil for a firewall? what a ripoff
vernal bone
It is untill you realise you need it to keep your network online 
mighty storm
Happened again?
ashen cliff
There are organizations that can afford it. There are also some that have to use this kind of gear due to their insurance.
proven dune
They probably used advanced checks for that.
Educate me a bit more? Been a long time since Iβve done Cisco work
ashen cliff
I haven't touch that gear yet, but from what I'm aware, they take over the whole encryption layer, all of the traffic gets checked by "AI", unpacked or even send to Cisco to inspect.
proven dune
Ah nice. New stuff I imagine works wonders?
ashen cliff
If you can afford it.
novel steppe
Hi, I have a question if anyone knows something about it, does the object stack plugins really help to reduce the lag of a server?
vernal bone
No.
unkempt drift
You mean mob stackers?
Yeah, I think the consensus is generally no from the people here
olive marlin
It can help if configured properly and only stacks mobs from spawners.
night forum
anyone with php skills, could i bother you to quickly look through this pr and l...
I took an look over it but i cant do anything than leave a comment, right?
potent fossil
I mean, you can go to my fork and PR to it, then when I merge on there, it gets added to the Spigot PR
but other than that, yea
you can go to specific lines to leave comments with context tho
vernal moth
You should be able to approve it, even tho you aren't part of the org
It will show a gray approval
night forum
You should be able to approve it, even tho you aren't part of the org
thats what i am looking for..
vernal moth
Files changed tab, review button, approve checkbox
night forum
got it, thanks!
potent fossil
If you can, just leave a message as well letting md know that you actually reviewed it
night forum
done
worn ember
When it's so quiet in your house you can hear the clock of impending doom ticking
rapid pivot
Just asking where I am able to see the dev livestreams that one mentioned in the 1.17 github issue.
worn ember
After spigot releases most likely
worn ember
Depends on the time zone and when md69 decides to release ig
potent fossil
is gh down?
merry talon
oh so that's why reddit is
worn ember
Kek
merry talon
kekw
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by DarkEyeDragon#5583 - fastly - result 1 of 5
merry talon
even their homepage
worn ember
Oh googles cdn
twin lagoon
potent fossil
Varnish 
potent fossil
lmao twitch said "fuck that noise" and turned off fastly or something
untold meadow
is stack overflow down
potent fossil
fastly is down
merry talon
or even more so twitch because.. cloudfront?
potent fossil
anything using it is having issues
untold meadow
well ig it's a good time to take a break
worn ember
Yey my bathtub streams are back
night forum
oh so that's why reddit is
github is down for me too. atleast their assets
untold meadow
how does their website go down to - i thought no. 1 rule was dont use the stuff you make
night forum
i love the new minimalistic design
worn ember
No cache?
night forum
idk xD
worn ember
Bet you wished you kept it now π
potent fossil
Nah, the JS wasn't working anyway so couldn't use GH
worn ember
Back to the stone age
Always fun to see how much a ripple effect things have when a big service goes down
potent fossil
in a few hours we'll have some articles about how "Fastly broke the Internet"
merry talon
I dunno how they have such deep penetration, fastly was like some small indie cdn
untold meadow
well thankfully their status page doesn't use fastly
merry talon
nice
untold meadow
time to manually build the javadocs i want like a cave man
worn ember
Tbh it would only take like 7-8 services to go down to cripple a large quantity of the internet
potent fossil
github pages are back
fastly homepage is back
oop nvm lmaooo
yep all back
okay once again nvm, I'ma go make a sandwich
merry talon
absolute chaos in slack
worn ember
looks like adventure had an update too, getting dependabot notifs left and right hah
untold meadow
yisss pointers and other fun new features
green turret
Nothing back for me. StackOverflow 503, Github 503s on some stuff, CORS errors on lots of assets. In particular, we use some random Google Maps markers hosted in a random Github repository in one of our internal services, so no markers on the map xD
potent fossil
yup currently all down for me
man, just goes to show even if your app is highly available it can still get taken down by a vendor
merry talon
some dude just cost them his entire lifetime salary by pressing the wrong button
potent fossil
vernal moth
So funny that fucking amazon.com doesn't use their own CDN but fastly
potent fossil
yeah thats kinda what i meant, like, they go so hardcore on making it HA with k8s clusters and all that fun shit, and then have a SPF at CDN level
like ??? why
merry talon
yeah super weird
ashen cliff
So funny that fucking amazon.com doesn't use their own CDN but fastly
Just like Microsoft using Apache?
merry talon
MS also using fastly in github
vernal moth
That's pre aqusition tho, no need to change
But I always thought aws was build for Amazon.com
merry talon
no way it doesn't cost them more than migrating it to azure
ashen cliff
AWS was build so Amazon can bleed money in other places.
And to take money from the government.
untold meadow
speaking of, uk gov website down too
ashen cliff
Taking bets on it being a Cisco or a DNS issue.
potent fossil
Fastlyβs network has built-in redundancies and automatic failover routing to ensure optimal performance and uptime.
ok Fastly
crimson jasper
speaking of, uk gov website down too
gov.uk is back up and running
scratch that o.o was just my cache then
untold meadow
no it seems to be up for me
worn ember
i wonder what caused the outages
merry talon
> Fastlyβs network has built-in redundancies and automatic failover routing to e...
in other words they have a load balancer
potent fossil
shit's just going up and down like bobbers in the water on a nice peaceful day while fishing in the lake on calm waters and a fish just bit
vernal moth
Inb4 1.17 is delayed because Mojang can't trigger release on GitHub
potent fossil
vernal moth
Like, can't merge the PR or smth dum like that
worn ember
doesnt mojang use jira? or is that only for tickets?
worn ember
404 for me xD
swift root
internet ded
someone's going to lose a lot of money over this
lots of someones probably
worn ember
potent fossil
Great work, Fastly. https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/That-Fishingcat-7b.png
cosmic raft
yes, Mojang uses TeamCity
crimson jasper
it's weird to think that the UK's entire government website is hosted abroad and thus can be taken down with a bunch of American websites o.o
worn ember
inb4 fastly is down cuz of someone elses services and we're just giving fastly shit for something they cant do anything about
potent fossil
inb4 some intern was like "yeah i can restart that service give me a just a sec-"
internet crashes
vernal moth
Oh cool fastly uses Palo alto network shit
frosty pebble
does anyone know how long it will take to update to 1.17? no pressure or anything, just curious (sorry if your constantly getting this question)
potent fossil
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
crimson jasper
it's filtering into news channels now.. just got a BBC News notification about it
vernal moth
it's weird to think that the UK's entire government website is hosted abroad and...
That's not how the internet works
potent fossil
oh wait lolol
merry talon
it's weird to think that the UK's entire government website is hosted abroad and...
technically just cached globally, probably hosted there
potent fossil
that link won't load
worn ember
well the text loads
vernal moth
It does for me, smh
crimson jasper
Just as a thing, will you guys be streaming the update like you did with 1.16?
cosmic raft
we'll see
worn ember
nice alt text
cosmic raft
we make no promises of anything and no ETAs
crimson jasper
heh, BBC News is down now
merry talon
Time for bed I guess
minor badge
Just as a thing, will you guys be streaming the update like you did with 1.16?
I believe mini and I will at least
vernal moth
Well, I'll try
potent fossil
wtf try? what am i paying u for
daring gulch
very nice work on issue 5785 - loving the layout & clarity
vernal moth
You should have seen my first draft π
meager tusk
Can't wait for Hangar full release.
vernal moth
Neither can I
waxen panther
πΆββοΈ
vernal moth
Haha no
meager tusk
Yes bro!
worn ember
lol i'm reading through this powerpoint and the sentences in this slide just cut off halfway in
golden gust
Well, i mean, if it's my turn to shine and I ain't wearing a shirt, I ain't putting on one
and last I knew, most streaming platforms had a no titty policy
swift root
and last I knew, most streaming platforms had a no titty policy
depends on the quality tbh, if yours are as I imagine them to be, no twitch staff could ever do anything to harm them or their rep
adonis level, y'know?
golden gust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr6lqKGdgXE [NSFW] [BLINDING] [CONSULT THERAPIST]
vernal moth
and last I knew, most streaming platforms had a no titty policy
Tities are fine, nipples aren't
Gotta get stickers
golden gust
selling sponsor slots for my nipples
swift root
exactly
golden gust
your badge here
swift root
I want salt, hot sauce and acid on my badge please, titty-side
as payment, three rice crackers (stale) and fourteen uncooked rigatoni
limber knotBOT
Heyo all!
vernal moth
They recovering now
void void
Am i the only one that adoptopenjdk site doesn't work?
worn ember
fastly down
void void
rip
worn ember
untold copper
wtf is fastly
quasi valley
https://twitter.com/ChrisSinjo/status/1402214570278768643 oh man
LMAO
limber knotBOT
Great question
worn ember
wouldnt be the verge if they didnt pull something like this
void void
did they fixed the edit thing?
worn ember
go check
vernal moth
Why is there no porn on there, smh
quasi valley
Who is the silly sausage that enabled edits?
worn ember
Why is there no porn on there, smh
cuz only nice people have found it so far
now twitter knows, so it'll change fast xD
void void
who are you
limber knotBOT
I just read the image, not the actual tweet text
power: I'm hanging out on the IRC side of the Discord-IRC bridge.
I would be joining over discord if I had access to my account.
void void
oh okay
limber knotBOT
Certain stuff is actually coming back online now
untold meadow
very excited for the rfo ngl
worn ember
Americans when they wake up
"wait, what happend"
ashen cliff
But. Was it Cisco?
tropic totem
Is there a rough estimate on how long it will be until 1.17 is released
ashen cliff
No.
woven otter
We are continuing to investigate this issue.
worn ember
We have identified the issue.
It was YOU
woven otter
No u
limber knotBOT
Which JRE variant is recommended for running paper? (I'm confused as to what the differences between OpenJ9, HotSpot, adpotopenjdk, ... all are)
twin lagoon
adoptopenjdk 16 hotspot
hotpsot and openj9 are JVMs
adoptopenjdk is a built, distribution of openjdk
openjdk is the opensource project of the JDK
limber knotBOT
Righto, thanks for the information.
mental meadow
and michael is the cutie of the discord
twin lagoon
void void
corretto 
twin lagoon
terraform 
meager dawn
so is milkbowl's vault sadly
it means innocent children can expose themselves to horrid things like underscores in class names
worn ember
cunning raft
yeah tell me about it
worn ember
hmm theres a spooder behind my screen that catches a good chunk of flies but it has become too powerful to be left alive
its like the size of my hand
meager dawn
australia?
worn ember
nah
meager dawn
the biggest spider i've ever seen was the size of my thumb
left swift
No u
worn ember
vernal moth
Mfw am alone here
2 doctors, 10 other ppl, 20 places for ppl to get vaccinated, and am literally alone here
potent fossil
:L
untold meadow
looks like a scene out of a zombie movie
just needs a flickering halogen bulb to complete the vibe
vernal moth
It's just one park deck ^^
night forum
Meanwhile my bot is still waiting for a free appointment to notify me...
meager dawn
tfw finding a free appointment takes so long you have time to write a bot to do it
vernal moth
Germany is still a few weeks behind the US and UK
night forum
"a few weeks"
vernal moth
Yeah, not more
meager dawn
idk what state finland is in
my mum got her first dose a while ago but i'm healthy and 15 so i'm probably not getting the vaccine for a while
vernal moth
Oh my parents already have it, so have most my friends
obtuse jasper
Martin is 60y old almost and doesn't have the vaccine
vernal moth
And am 24 and healthy, my GP wouldn't give it me, they only start at 25
Cause they still have others to do first
So my company handled it
night forum
Currently you need in germany a negative covid test to go eating indoor or go to the barber. But you dont need a test if you are fully vaccinated.
obtuse jasper
I would say "You have favorite people"
vernal moth
Also, update, another person showed up
vernal moth
Getting a negative test is no problem anyways
obtuse jasper
You're used to?
vernal moth
Cause on every fucking corner some asshole is trying to make money by selling tests, lmao
I have 10 stations within 5 minute walking distance
night forum
Getting a negative test is no problem anyways
yea but you need to book an appointment for the test and then get it etc.
Its not that convenient
meager dawn
i think finland is trying to reach herd immunity by the end of summer but that's really optimistic
night forum
Germany said they want to make everyone an offer for vaccine until the end of summer....
vernal moth
Yeah and summer is still 3 months or so
That will work
Lmao the doctor is such an asshole, saw my shoulder (the only muscle on my body that's trained cause am a swimmer, it's really noticeable) and laughed at me
"You gonna have muscles soreness from hell"
π π
Anyways, off back to ma laptop
limber knotBOT
does anybody know a java music visualization library which doesn't require a GPU :S
meager dawn
do you.. not have a gpu?
limber knotBOT
Quite a few of my Finnish coworkers have gotten vaccines already, blue, so I'd say it's pretty damn good. We're on the 50 year olds over in ΓstergΓΆtlands lΓ€n in Sweden, and Stockholm is still on people over 60 or something -- going real slow up there. JΓΆnkΓΆpings lΓ€n is now doing drop-in.
servers usually don't have GPUs :P
hm, I might have to write my own solution anyways, most want an actual audio stream and I want to just create frames from an audio file
worn ember
does anybody know a java music visualization library which doesn't require a GPU...
just use FTT, should run on the gpu, its only the visualization itself that uses the gpu
limber knotBOT
I kinda hoped I could just rip something from some android app but they all seem to be tightly integrated into the android rendering stuff :S
worn ember
*cpu
limber knotBOT
well, I'm actually looking for something along the lines of Milkdrop xD
limber knotBOT
actually... I have a way easier solution: I just record a video of the animations I need on my PC and just play them in minecraft lol
worn ember
wtf are you doing
limber knotBOT
music visualization on minecraft maps
meager dawn
limber knotBOT
recording it will work for POC so Β―_(γ)_/Β―
night forum
is this a real bot?
worn ember
yeah just calculate the fft and show it for the current time
meager dawn
you can read the .wav file and perform an FFT on it using that library
and then visualise it however you want
limber knotBOT
yeah, well, that would mean writing my own visualizations or adapter for milkdrop presets or something
but I guess this part was what I was missing in my original solution, thanks anyways
vernal moth
Uff uni flashbacks
limber knotBOT
yeah, I guess. I just have very little experience with actually rendering stuff lol
vernal moth
I failed numerical maths 3 times
limber knotBOT
ideally I'd want an output like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92D__g-8Fv8
vernal moth
That's work
potent fossil
yea phoenix616 is paper's general AI
oh fuck
fucking discord scroll up bullshit
i hate my life 
worn ember
ideally I'd want an output like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92D__g-8Fv...
yeahhh good luck with that one
limber knotBOT
well, I don't really need it to be dynamic right now, I just need it to be working at the end of the month lol
so I'm cutting dynamic features left and right at the cost of having to setup some stuff manually
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
worn ember
i spend weeks getting visualzers to integrate properly with audio and its a real PITA
you need low pass filters, high pass filters etc
its fun, but also disgustan
vernal moth
Start with a spectrometer
limber knotBOT
I can imagine that
vernal moth
And then pray that's enough
worn ember
yeah those arent too hard
limber knotBOT
btw. something like this is my goal (but created dynamically from sound files and not setup and timed manually): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q85AdF8mNAo
worn ember
but dont expect to write those sick visualsers if you dont have supreme math skills
limber knotBOT
I mean, the milkdrop functions are available so you'd have to just hook them up properly
I guess technically I could just use projectM and somehow hook that into java 
worn ember
true, i used the webaudio api for it so i didnt have much at my disposal
vernal moth
Phoenix, considering most festivals still do that manually, I doubt you gonna fully automate that
limber knotBOT
well using a spectrometer as the base should get you pretty far imo
worn ember
tbh its one of my big dreams to make those for festivals on giant LED panels, but yeah they're so much work and almost impossible to do realtime
limber knotBOT
but I'm currently cheating already and using BeatSaber maps π
vernal moth
Yeah that's a good idea
limber knotBOT
let me show you what I have right now, sec
vernal moth
Cause there you got multiple channels, timed to the song already
Iirc beatsaber map creators generate beat maps that they use to time their actions on the channels
limber knotBOT
yeah
worn ember
usually you have something to visualize the highs, the lows and then whatever is left over
limber knotBOT
there's auto-generators for beatsaber too now which kinda work so it's definitly possible to automate fully
worn ember
determining whats considered low and high also depends on the audio
@phoenix616 will it be open source, seems like an interesting project π
limber knotBOT
if I ever get it finished to be fully dynamic, yeah
worn ember
imagine having a real festival, and then have it recreated in 3d space where anyone can go into and have it synced real time
limber knotBOT
it's kinda inspired by what Monstercat did a couple years ago. they used a modded client and some French company though
worn ember
everything is already network connected these days anyway
ashen cliff
Was already done, but it had to use a browser for the sound.
limber knotBOT
yeah, syncing it virtually is not that hard
vernal moth
Can just get the output of the light console into your mc server
It's the creation of the content in the first place that's hard
But that might actually not be dum, get some of these light show simulators and see if they got an api for output
Or well, if you wanna do fireworks, there are tools for that too
worn ember
i mean yeah not that hard to pull off if you have the data, still not done that much tho
could be a cool middle ground for the pandemic, where festivals are more limited in size
limber knotBOT
well... if I would've had this up and running last year then I could've probably made quite some money lol
worn ember
haha
vernal moth
Why does this keep happening
Somebody accidentally sends an email to a big group of ppl
Idiots press reply all
Like, I could punsh every single on of them
mental meadow
mini i still did get NO answer smh
vernal moth
This email group has 2000 members
ashen cliff
Simple fix: Prevent sending emails to more than 10 recipients.
limber knotBOT
lmao
vernal moth
But thats just an alias for a group
And ppl reply that they don't wanna be in that group
Even tho they don't know what that group is
limber knotBOT
I assume you guys know the mass email that shut down microsoft in the 90s?
vernal moth
(It was created to invite a subsection of the company to a meeting/livestream)
This shit happens every at least every year
And ppl never learn
vernal moth
And since we use IBM products for mail, deleting the group doesn't seem to work or doesn't propagate properly
potent fossil
yeah, heard of that
vernal moth
Like I think the clients cache the group
ashen cliff
Just block sending emails to that email.
ashen cliff
Thanks IBM.
vernal moth
I would just fire everybody who replies for lack in IT competence
mental meadow
i send 2 emails mini and i did not get anything back π¦
vernal moth
Like, they already pushed news posts on all our platforms for ppl to just fucking not reply
But ppl don't care
Just while ranting here I got 10 new replies
limber knotBOT
meh, apparently sharex doesn't want to capture my audio
mental meadow
smh
fallow oak
does anyone know when 1.17 comes out for paper servers
worn ember
.eta
left swift
Its out
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
left swift
Check reddit
left swift
Tell them to be better
mental meadow
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See also #β-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785
worn ember
does paper have gh teams or just the free plan?
mental meadow
Just the free plan I think?
But idk
The free plan does include a lot of things now
worn ember
yeah it does
mossy vessel
Open source teams, it is.
worn ember
"Multiple reviewers in pull requests" is a team feature
limber knotBOT
https://youtu.be/XXfKMQILggw sorry for the low volume :S
and that's just from the effects part of the map, I don't even use the notes yet π
slim delta
What version of PaperMC should I be using?
limber knotBOT
latest
limber knotBOT
bungecord forks
mental meadow
Waterfall is a fork of Bungeecord, and Travertine does not exist anymore
limber knotBOT
I mean... they aren't minecraft servers, they are proxies
mental meadow
A bungeecord is something you put in front of multiple paper servers to connect them together
So that you can have multiple servers in one network
slim delta
ahhh i see now.
limber knotBOT
yeah
only the effects part of the maps so the actions are actually what they are supposed to (lasers and lights)
rustic valve
A bungeecord is something you put in front of multiple paper servers to connect ...
What do you jump from bridges with then? o.O
limber knotBOT
gonna have to figure out a good way to use the notes too and my first thought was a visualizer
left swift
What do you jump from bridges with then? o.O
Faith
limber knotBOT
I have some ideas on a couple of effects for that but I'll have to do some testing and tweaking with a couple of songs to see how good they really work
mental meadow
the bungeecord connects you with the bridge π
fallow oak
why are u a bot
rustic valve
But, isn't the purpose of jumping not to be connected to the bridge?
limber knotBOT
wat
rustic valve
why are u a bot
That's a very rude question π€
limber knotBOT
do.. do you know what bungee-jumping is?
rustic valve
Splatting into the concrete below? 
left swift
Theres a lot of different reasons for jumping, maybe to get over a puddle. Maybe you're playing basketball
Maybe you're in irl assassins creed
potent fossil
maybe you're nomana trying to desperately get away from a PvPer who wants his gear so hes doing the jump-sprint strat but the killer is gaining
rustic valve
Maybe there are templars Β―_(γ)_/Β―
limber knotBOT
shoves nomana into a microwave and waits until they pop.
rustic valve
Maybe you're stuck in 1.8
ashen cliff
.kill simple
limber knotBOT
slices simple's limbs off with a polished axe.
left swift
Jump sprint strat loo
void void
.kill s
limber knotBOT
glares at s until they die of boredom.
left swift
Simple so cool when he says boomer things
left swift
Idk when anyone would call running and jumping a jump sprint strat
rustic valve
Pretty sure they've twisted boomer to work whenever someone wants to call you old, regardless of your age related to them, or your comments Β―_(γ)_/Β―
potent fossil
I thought that's what it was called
left swift
Pretty sure they've twisted boomer to work whenever someone wants to call you ol...
Woah really since when!!
potent fossil
steam summer sale needs to come now!!!!!!!!!! daddy gfaben!!!!!!!!!!!! GABEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
rustic valve
Since I couldn't walk out the door without someone yelling it at me >=I
rustic valve
Only one answer to this
left swift
If u want to spend money that badly simple I'll help ya out
limber knotBOT
who needs a sale if they already have all games?
ashen cliff
Epic. Big update: https://posili.me/i/2021-06-08_15-29-35.png
rustic valve
Damn youths and their whipwhappersnippersnapper newfangled modern words
fallow oak
But phoenix616 is a bot
left swift
Wow so rude
rustic valve
You shouldn't call people a bot π¦
left swift
Who raises these people
rustic valve
But more and more it seems parents don't, the "system" does. π€
fallow oak
Ok lol
potent fossil
technically it is a bot that delivered the message, it's just that his message was sent on irc and over on irc is a bot that picks up messages and relay them to discord
unreal quarry
potent fossil
while here is a bot that picks up messages and relays them to irc so he can see
mental meadow
hello michaeeeeellll
potent fossil
henlo michale
twin lagoon
left swift
twin lagoon
@umbral tiger 
umbral tiger
potent fossil
Jeff Bezos will go to space next month when his company, Blue Origin, launches its first passenger-carrying mission.
lul, maybe it'll go kaboom