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twin lagoon
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imagine using imessage

wind geyser
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hopefully

brave radish
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like with Do Not Disturb While Driving you can allow messages to come through just from favorites or not at all

wind geyser
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yeah

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I have mine set to no one for regular dnd

brave radish
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"AUTOmatically"

wind geyser
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AUTOMATICALLY

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live text

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...

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the ai is probably gonna get it wrong lmao

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"does siri speak dog?"

twin lagoon
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wow! google lens

warm anchor
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iOS lens!

golden gust
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awkward af

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Like

brave radish
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more cringe than usual Apple

wind geyser
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OMG 7 LANGUAGES

golden gust
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Then again

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I bet that if you're tryna get dads to buy their teenagers new phones, maybe it's working

magic river
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I guess they got enough AI acceleration oomph in there to make an OCR algorithm not suck enough to make it a feature

brave radish
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ohh yay this is actually cool

magic river
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I bet that only works on the iPhone 12

brave radish
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spotlight has always been lame

brave radish
wind geyser
magic river
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Unless they're going to do it in iCloud but they usually try to pretend they don't look at your stuff

wind geyser
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eww billy eyelash

magic river
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Oh hey they're building a clone of Google's semantic search stuff

wind geyser
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hillbilly eyelash

twin lagoon
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photos engineering

warm anchor
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oph yes a collection of photos of me being outside

vernal moth
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Took them 4 years to copy google lens, not Bad

wind geyser
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it sounded like she said irrelevant lmfao

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"irrelevant music"

golden gust
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went climbing once

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CREATE A MEMORY

left swift
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Take a poop while climbing up a cliff and try to hit people below u

brave radish
wispy blade
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shit on earth rug

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(grass)

brave radish
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and somehow they keep all this quiet 👀

warm anchor
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fuck yeah now to be fucked by my state

wind geyser
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new design

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this is probably just dark sky, but built in

golden gust
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dw eternity

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I'd fuck you too

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ruin your hole day

warm anchor
golden gust
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wait

wind geyser
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LOL

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"apple maps is the best way to navigate your world"

magic river
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Apple Maps has gotten better

golden gust
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to be fair, the biggest issue with apple maps was the user

wind geyser
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lol

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true

golden gust
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Like, it's defo improved but the moment you drive somewhere there isn't a road because the app told you to you're a fucking moron

magic river
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They're better in some places, Google is better in others

warm anchor
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wow city skyline mod

waxen panther
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apple maps is 10x better if you live in a big city that supports the new maps

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if you dont then google maps are betterer

wind geyser
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I like waze

topaz mortar
brave radish
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that sounded horrible edited

vernal moth
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You are 6 days late

brave radish
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"overlapping in-tere-cacewwt-rwfhtrei"

golden gust
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^

left swift
golden gust
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animal sniffer is also fucking trash

vernal moth
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Kash brought that one up in spigot discord

golden gust
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only time I've seen it trip is on stupid things which shouldn't be an issue, as well as it missing stuff like that

olive garden
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shouldn't animal sniffer pick up the issue... before it's an issue?

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like how the fuck do you push code this broken

waxen panther
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we dont use the release flag in my household 😡 ❗

wind geyser
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this release wasn't that exciting tbh

brave radish
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was much more impressed last year, but that was actually more with iPadOS tbf

wind geyser
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like now they're talking about the "most reliable" headphones that cost a fortune

warm anchor
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actually airpod is cheap if you look at other options and what they offer

vernal moth
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How expensive?

wind geyser
vernal moth
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Apples headphones weren't so bad

twin lagoon
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they look like shit though

vernal moth
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I got boses sound sport last week for 70 euro or so, can recommend

wind geyser
waxen panther
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i have never had a problem with my airpods and reliability modCheck

vernal moth
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But I only use them for sport, Sony mh3000x or whatever the fuck their are called for everything else

wind geyser
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multiple times for me

mossy vessel
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Didn't your cat eat your airpods quite some times brocc?

wind geyser
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had to get both buds replaced 3 times

warm anchor
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that's why brocco got the newer one now!

waxen panther
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no but i put mine in the washing machine a few times 😁

magic river
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I have these, they're nice https://rollingsqua.re/products/hyphen-2?variant=32602381910078

RollingSquare
HYPHEN® 2

Engineered in every detail, they feature: Qualcomm® Chipset, Integrated Wireless Charging, Advanced Touch Control, Bluetooth 5, IP55 Water Resistance, 36h Battery Life (with case), Quad-Mic System, Smart LEDs, Advanced Passive Noice Cancelling, Gyroscopic Sensor, Seamless Pairing, AptX® Codec, 15 Meters of Listening Distance

wind geyser
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that's two times too many

waxen panther
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still worked after though!

mossy vessel
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Keeping them clean, good!

twin lagoon
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mmmm idk if we're seeing a macbook redesign

waxen panther
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fr!

magic river
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Got a discount for the indiegogo version, otherwise I'd probably just get samsung or apple ones

unkempt drift
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They don’t usually do product announcements here…

waxen panther
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they wont do a macbook redesign here

twin lagoon
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that's true

waxen panther
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or well, i'd be surprised if they did

magic river
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They just did a product announcement here like 2 years ago

unkempt drift
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This is all about software I think

magic river
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And they used to do them all the time

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Hardware will be at the end

golden gust
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You know what you need?

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some beats

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cracking sound

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runs

unkempt drift
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Well, any Apple event gets probably millions of dollars of free media. Why clump stuff together if you can just get more free media?

waxen panther
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god i love craig

twin lagoon
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god i love brocc

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and kori

mental meadow
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brocc ❤️

waxen panther
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god i love michael & aoruoaurwa pleadTongue

wind geyser
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widgets finally

golden gust
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ah, yes, fake aurora

twin lagoon
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lol

unkempt drift
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I don’t have an iPad. Surprised you couldn’t already have widgets?

wind geyser
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Android 12 was more exciting than iOS 15 ngl

golden gust
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they had some like weird swipe out thing I think

wind geyser
brave radish
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yeah he just showed it

golden gust
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I mean, who knows, maybe iPad OS will get a calculator one day

brave radish
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it was like on the very very left page, if you swipe again, the left quarter of your screen would become widgets

unkempt drift
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Oh yeah, ik about that

waxen panther
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gaming page broccogamer

wind geyser
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finally app library

brave radish
unkempt drift
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They redid the weather app. Maybe iPad will get that 👀

brave radish
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old widgets

vernal moth
unkempt drift
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I have a paid calc app anyways. Need that RPN mode

vernal moth
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Ah yes

left swift
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Dababy

wind geyser
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the shelf

brave radish
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"the shelf"

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really

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really?!

golden gust
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i mean, there is a reason for the iPad not having a built in calculator

waxen panther
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the iphone calc app would look stupid on ipad

golden gust
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Basically, sorta like, "making a pretty full screen calc which isn't just an oversized version" is like, eeerrrr...

unkempt drift
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Yeah, that’s what Craig said when MKBHD asked about iPhone specific apps

golden gust
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I probs woulda made the iPad bg look like a desk with a calculator on it

unkempt drift
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Can’t just scale them up, they require a complete separate design

brave radish
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lol I love that little animation where it morphed into an iPad with a keyboard

golden gust
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The issue is that theres so much screen estate for something so little

waxen panther
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smh thats not their design language anymore cat

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😡

golden gust
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biggest thing is maybe like a pop-up calculator with the new multitasking stuff they added

vernal moth
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I don't hate this

golden gust
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yea, but, is it apple pretty?!

vernal moth
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That's my tablet, Samsung idk what, their most expensive shit

unkempt drift
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ew

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😛

golden gust
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I mean, the way the buttons look is kinda meh

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I'd rather just grab my phone and use that, or pop open alfred

vernal moth
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Layout works tho

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Having a big history bar

worn ember
unkempt drift
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Yeah, im sure you can make a calc app work on a large screen. Or what cat said, only having a small popup one

worn ember
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just do like windows and scale everything

unkempt drift
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Everyone just needs to know English smh. No need for translate then kekwhyper

worn ember
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see, ez

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golden gust
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oh god

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not even a mother could love that

vernal moth
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See, that's just responsive

waxen panther
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yucky

golden gust
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macOS doesn't even let you resize their calculator LOL

waxen panther
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swift zzzzzzz

unkempt drift
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Oh come on. Full Xcode on ipad

worn ember
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until it stops responding

brave radish
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I hate Swift. Give me a JVM plz Tim Apple

worn ember
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swift is nice actually

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well better than android at least

unkempt drift
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So is swift playgrounds just the Xcode for ipad?

waxen panther
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objc is far superior and is for chads 😎

vernal moth
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Isnt swift to Ios what kotlin is to android?

wind geyser
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android 12 was better ngl

unkempt drift
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Oh best part. I love it when Apple says something that pisses Facebook off

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Literally, almost anything that pisses Facebook off is probably good.

vernal moth
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Zuccc

worn ember
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hmm

waxen panther
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zucc is twitching watching this rn

twin lagoon
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noooo not my ip address

worn ember
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ah yes invisible pixels

golden gust
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I mean, sooorta, but, erm...

waxen panther
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tbf its a good description for non computer people

golden gust
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like, swift was a replacement to objc

worn ember
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lmao safari, cuz it doesnt have half the features to abuse

golden gust
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but, I mean, swift is the general recommended language for using on anything apple these days

brave radish
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Wait I missed it

unkempt drift
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Oh I like this. Tracking when apps use stuff

brave radish
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what are they hiding your IP and location from?

worn ember
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finally

golden gust
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apps

unkempt drift
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No, people who send emails

cosmic raft
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I wish Facebook would disappear forever

brave radish
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I looked away for one second

waxen panther
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new siri voices 😳

wind geyser
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finally

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we can use siri offline

unkempt drift
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Did they explain exactly how they hide that stuff in emails?

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I can’t remember

worn ember
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dont think so

golden gust
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they don't really go into the tech of it

warm anchor
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That feature is neat

golden gust
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I mean, I semi tuned out but more seemed that they wanted to prevent you from knowing when you read stuff which google does already

olive marlin
unkempt drift
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That’s just weird to think about

vernal moth
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Is this smth new? Doesn't android have that too?

unkempt drift
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Who gets my cloud info when I die

warm anchor
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Oh nice

cosmic raft
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Facebook in general needs to go. Sell Oculus to some "good" company or let it split, shutdown Facebook itself

brave radish
cosmic raft
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Send Messenger people to WhatsApp, split WhatsApp off

worn ember
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pass my pornstash down to my kids when i die

warm anchor
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Wtf ded

waxen panther
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😬

twin lagoon
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ah yes dns over tls

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ok that is a pretty cool feature

cosmic raft
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I prefer dns over email

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email google for each request

golden gust
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HALP

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DKIM FOR MY DNS MAIL SERVER IS NOT WORKING?!

worn ember
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@olive marlin they stole your feature lul

olive marlin
worn ember
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the unique email thing

unkempt drift
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They had that before with Sign In with Apple ID. You can just do it manually now too I think

waxen panther
untold copper
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attack on titan is awesome

mental meadow
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dkim is such a weird thing

ashen cliff
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Dark BRO!

mental meadow
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I just add some keys to my dns and suddenly people can send mails in my name

twin lagoon
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BRO!

worn ember
ashen cliff
worn ember
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lmao

warm anchor
worn ember
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is it fun to play?

ashen cliff
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Got to day 25 and decided to explore the waters as I already had everything.

warm anchor
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Before it’s just a random string

ashen cliff
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Instant death.

untold copper
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why XD

unkempt drift
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This segment sponsored by Airbnb

ashen cliff
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That was the best part. kekwhyper

waxen panther
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bulkan minecraft

ashen cliff
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And the fact there were 0 trees left... or chests.

untold copper
magic river
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I just missed the last half hour due to a meeting, sounds like it was just iOS and watchOS stuff though so who cares 😛

untold copper
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i have to try this game with my friends lol

golden gust
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"to record your risk of walking, we call it, 'walking steadiness'"

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mfw

waxen panther
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i cant wait for the new apple watch in september

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i need an excuse to buy a new one

unkempt drift
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They just started watch, they did iOS and iPadOS

worn ember
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bruh, how sad of a species are you that you cant even walk properly on your own lol

wispy blade
worn ember
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rip stats when ur drunk

golden gust
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how to improve walking steadiness?

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RUN FATTY, RUN!!

worn ember
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"physician" yeah cuz everyone can afford those lol

unkempt drift
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I want them to make their Apple Music website better…. It sucks right now

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Only way to listen to music for me on Linux without doing some stupid stuff

worn ember
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why not use spotify or google music then?

ripe sphinx
unkempt drift
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Cause my family has the Apple one subscription already.

vernal moth
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Ssshhh

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Preparations

waxen panther
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discord moment

brave radish
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this guy sounds like he has a really stuffy nose

cosmic raft
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👀

wind geyser
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yes

waxen panther
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leave him alone 😡

unkempt drift
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Gotta re-enable the waiting room soon

cosmic raft
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nope

mental meadow
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we found a better solution

cosmic raft
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different approach this time

mental meadow
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we just ban machine maker and everything is fine

unkempt drift
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The no one talks approach?

waxen panther
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apple are going help me get more happiness chemical toobased

golden gust
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shut up broc

waxen panther
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wtf

cosmic raft
brave radish
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oh I was talking about the Apple dude in case anyone was talking in the voice channel lol

worthy geode
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seeing a german channel in this discord really confused me for a second

worn ember
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wuts happening

vernal moth
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We have executed a Blitzkrieg

waxen panther
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new core team member already asserting control 😐

vernal moth
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Ded be like

twin lagoon
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@vestal jasper uwu

vestal jasper
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uwu

cunning raft
vernal moth
golden gust
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Should we be worried that he's german?

cosmic raft
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definitely

vestal jasper
waxen panther
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Kash has been hacked by mini!

cosmic raft
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do you like the new banner?

brave radish
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aw that's a cute puppy

wide chasm
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I see no glow squids, so it's good

waxen panther
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ooo new banner is cute

worn ember
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no banner for me

cosmic raft
brave radish
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yes that's amazing

worn ember
brave radish
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is this Tim Apple's house 👀

worn ember
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reload fixed it

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wouldnt be discord if it just worked

brave radish
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RIP headphone users

untold copper
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o.O

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epic

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new banner

twin lagoon
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ok when are we getting a new papermc text logo

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let's be real here that font isn't cutting it in 2021

untold copper
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it looks fine

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but yes it can use an upgrade

golden gust
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Comic Sans? Comic Sans.

wispy blade
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Comfortaa

untold copper
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what the hell is this and

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twin lagoon
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can we bring back paperchan aswell

golden gust
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Literally no idea who you're talking about

twin lagoon
wide chasm
twin lagoon
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PapierMC

wispy blade
twin lagoon
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Papier Meinkraft

mossy vessel
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german 🤮

golden gust
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"airplay to mac"

unkempt drift
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Airplay to mac… finally

golden gust
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holy fuck

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It's only been... how many years now?

unkempt drift
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I’ve wanted that sooooo many times

untold copper
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cmon someone make a german joke

wide chasm
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It's German, it's already a joke /s

golden gust
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wait

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We're switching language?!

wide chasm
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Ja

worthy geode
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Ja!

stray oyster
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Oh jaa

brave radish
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YESSS AUTOMATOR IS HORRIBLE THEY FINALLY BROUGHT OVER SHORTCUTS

magic river
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Isn't shortcuts the same thing as their applescript GUI thing?

stray oyster
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Heee @quasi valley sag was

untold copper
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automator is epic

wispy blade
unkempt drift
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I’ve never tried to use Automator

magic river
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Like, they already had a thing for this, I think it's called Automator?

brave radish
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but Automator is horribly dated

twin lagoon
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ok the safari design is neat

unkempt drift
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Imma have to try this new safari, might just be one of those things you get used to

twin lagoon
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firefox take notes

meager tusk
brave radish
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The current Safari is fine

twin lagoon
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Idriz!

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Bro!

brave radish
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just not the old one

meager tusk
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Bro!

magic river
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I kind of hate it

stray oyster
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The new Firefox design is bruh

meager tusk
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The new firefox design is so bad

stray oyster
brave radish
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Safari 14 is fine, and current Firefox is ❤️

magic river
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This is just iOS PWA stuff added to desktop

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(the color)

waxen panther
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new safari is sexy

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might be time to switch 😳

meager tusk
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there's a new safari?

magic river
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Tab Groups is something Firefox used to have 😦

brave radish
meager tusk
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link?

stray oyster
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I don’t want the half-assed Apple VPN

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Go away

untold copper
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ooo

brave radish
magic river
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Whenever I used them I forgot they existed until I tried to open a webpage and the address bar let me know it was already open but yeah

untold copper
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that tab group is sexy

stray oyster
meager tusk
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ayo chill

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apple

magic river
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The swipe stuff is nice

unkempt drift
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Need to use these more

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meager tusk
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ok this is neat

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no need to use those more

unkempt drift
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So big. Yikes

waxen panther
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this guys thumb is freaking me out

brave radish
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yessssssss finally

magic river
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btw firefox on android already does that swipe stuff

meager tusk
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you never seen a thumb before?

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YO

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PHONE EXTENSIONS

waxen panther
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huge thumb

magic river
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Well, it does the left/right stuff at least

unkempt drift
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What’s left? TV?

brave radish
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maybe the Apple TV will finally have a web browser 👀

meager tusk
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Can't wait to hackintosh it. @ashen cliff

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Balkan Mac.

ashen cliff
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Done bro.

stray oyster
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Gonna be hard

worn ember
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virtualized balkan mac at 3fps

wispy blade
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^

stray oyster
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I want to imagine him actually standing in that pond

meager tusk
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Fastest computer in The west: 🪨

magic river
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Did it just skip?

stray oyster
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No

magic river
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Or did I fall behind enough that it gave up?

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I must be watching at like 0.99x speed or something

stray oyster
worn ember
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need to pay for 100% speed

meager tusk
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All I'm hearing is "Wait for the next release of React Native" 🛌

brave radish
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lol

wispy blade
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react lol

worn ember
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i wanna give react a try

meager tusk
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React > all

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But ok

stray oyster
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She has that; Billy that won’t do, it just won’t do kind of look

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Creepy

unkempt drift
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Rewrite hangar frontend in react ded

meager tusk
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Vouch

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Maybe then it'll actually be done

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🚶‍♂️

magic river
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I think https://github.com/solidjs/solid is technically superior (better design and such) but react is where everyone is

GitHub
solidjs/solid

A declarative, efficient, and flexible JavaScript library for building user interfaces. - solidjs/solid

meager tusk
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React is where the jobs are at

stray oyster
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This is boring I want the iOS 15 beta profile so I can ruin my daily driver already

magic river
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Swift async/await?

meager tusk
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Yeah

stray oyster
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That makes no sense

meager tusk
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Ok now give us XCode on windows

magic river
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actors?

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XCode is kind of trash, why would you want it? 😛

twin lagoon
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sus

magic river
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They wouldn't let you make iOS apps from it

meager tusk
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Yea but

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I want it for that.

stray oyster
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Yea fine just let me put UIViewController.hpp in here

wind geyser
worn ember
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no idriz thats illegal, only mac apps on mac os!!!!

meager tusk
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Okay

stray oyster
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Install safari for windows

meager tusk
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What about Balkan Mac OS

stray oyster
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Latest version 5.0

ancient bolt
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appcode gives you intellij for xcode

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it's not bad

worn ember
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tbh thats why i ran a mac vm in the firs ttime

wind geyser
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pokemon go

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...

meager tusk
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Which is Windows 95 with a bunch of software that makes it look like OSX

ancient bolt
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handles basically everything except for the UI builder

magic river
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pokemon go is still a big thing

wind geyser
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didn't that game die like 5 years ago?

ancient bolt
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it fell in popularity

brave radish
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DED breaking EULA

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smh

meager tusk
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Pokemon GO is still alive

worn ember
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lies

wind geyser
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-_-

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I don't even play games on my phone anymore

worn ember
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nintendo ds is still alive

ancient bolt
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This is HUGE for developers

meager tusk
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What do you do on your phone?

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Nvm

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I don't wanna know

wind geyser
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not games

worn ember
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got bored of watching about 10 mins in

magic river
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I barely use my phone but I still buy the fastest one every few years because when I do use it I don't want to wait for it

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Oh look Xcode on Windows

meager tusk
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Holy shit

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I called it

wind geyser
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I mainly use my phone for watching youtube videos

worn ember
#

oh look, i might actually pass my final now

magic river
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Oh, maybe not, sounds like it's just a build farm

meager tusk
#

Please be remote IDE

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please

ancient bolt
#

is this like remote pair programming

limber knotBOT
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oh no

wind geyser
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still waiting for iMessage for android

twin lagoon
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managed ci/cd from the looks of it

worn ember
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god not this again

ancient bolt
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oh yeah just a connected CI

meager tusk
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😐

twin lagoon
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which actually isn't too bad of an idea for apple applications i think

meager tusk
#

God damn it

wind geyser
#

it only works if you have an internet connection...

worn ember
#

new generation pair programming

meager tusk
#

She looks scary

#

Is that just me?

ancient bolt
#

so I guess apple wants to beat macstadium

meager tusk
#

She's scaring me I don't know why

ancient bolt
stray oyster
meager tusk
#

Ok DenWav

wind geyser
#

eww

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disgusting

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memojis

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whens the last time someone has actually used those?

magic river
#

Fuck I forgot I have to do an interview this afternoon

meager tusk
#

The Apple Bill Gates

magic river
#

This shit better wrap up soon

stray oyster
unkempt drift
wind geyser
waxen panther
ancient bolt
stray oyster
#

Still waiting on the beta profile to drop so I can ruin my daily-driver

magic river
#

I don't think we're getting one more thing

unkempt drift
#

They gonna announce their car

stray oyster
#

Apple car

wind geyser
#

nvm they just finished

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if apple made a car, would it have windows?

unkempt drift
#

Let’s see the Easter egg at the end if there is one

wispy blade
#

no

magic river
#

Where the fuck is my laptop

stray oyster
#

No but it would be charged by a lightning cable on the belly

waxen panther
#

september

magic river
#

Going to make me wait until September...

wind geyser
#

in your lap @magic river

potent fossil
#

so no m2 huh

ancient bolt
#

I saw so many headlines with "leaked" info on what would be in WWDC. As always everyone was completely wrong

meager tusk
#

Yeah no m2 it seems

magic river
#

No iPads were harmed in the making of this event

stray oyster
#

The M2 is for the second event this year

unkempt drift
ancient bolt
#

leaks for google IO are always accurate, leaks for Apple's shit almost never are. They have that shit locked down

white pine
#

is paper ever gonna hard-fork spigot?

waxen panther
#

2024

white pine
#

in 2024?

meager tusk
#

No.

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In 2004.

white pine
#

?

meager tusk
#

Problem?

worn ember
#

5

void void
#

4?

potent fossil
#

It'll happen some time between now and the inevitable heat death of our universe.

white pine
#

no i just dont get it

meager tusk
#

Ok

white pine
#

wdym in 2004

meager tusk
#

It'll happen in 2004

white pine
white pine
potent fossil
#

No.

white pine
#

im guessing you're trolling

meager tusk
#

Wait it has

void void
#

bruvsko

meager tusk
#

No?

golden gust
#

It's something that's in progress

white pine
#

alr whatever is going on you guys are trolling bcs of the question

golden gust
#

Just, theres a lot of steps before we actually get to that day

olive marlin
#

They just messing with you. Hopefully Paper will hard fork at some point, but we can't tell anything more cause we don't know.

white pine
mental meadow
#

But to answer your question: Yes

worn ember
#

no

golden gust
#

short term? yes

meager tusk
#

up to a certain point

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yeah

golden gust
#

long term? no

white pine
#

i see

void void
#

trol gniffel

ancient bolt
#

well now I'm sad

mental meadow
#

One of the reasons for a hardfork is to finally improve some things that Spigot does not want to change. And that means, that over time, eventually, compatibility with Spigot has to be dropped

wind geyser
#

boring

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for wwdc

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I was disappointed with it ngl

worn ember
#

world wide direct current

mental meadow
#

where is wwac

meager tusk
#

DED Is Funny

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I am Laughing

worn ember
#

good

meager tusk
#

Shush

ancient bolt
#

all those headlines were so confident they were going to announce (though not necessarily release) the new macbooks. But that doesn't really make sense cause that's now how apple rolls. Apple always has shit available immediately whenever they announce it, so the hype doesn't have a chance to die down

wispy blade
#

world wide deez coconuts

meager tusk
#

Queue source being wrong

stray oyster
worn ember
ancient bolt
#

9 times out of 10 no hardware is released at wwdc, it's generally a software conference

wind geyser
#

I enjoyed last years one more than this years one tbh

magic river
#

WWDC used to always have hardware releases, iirc

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Like, before the iPhone

ancient bolt
#

hasn't for a while

magic river
#

I think 2 of the last 5 have too

ancient bolt
#

ever since apple started doing separate hardware releases

potent fossil
#

i wanna get in on the new processors (m1/m2) but im having fomo, lol, if i give in and grab m1 im afraid when m2 comes ill be sad af bc m1 will be shat upon by it. and im being rlly impatient !

ancient bolt
#

last time they did was the mac pro

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which is a really weird product considering the M1 chip was like 2 or 3 years out, so the promise of upgradability was just a straight up lie

stray oyster
worn ember
#

taking anything a company says serious

brave radish
#

when did Larry become a mod here?

wide chasm
#

Just now

brave radish
#

ah

cunning raft
#

larry ban people who ask questions

brave radish
#

oh NotMyFault too

swift root
#

sorry ZCM

#

you're done for

#

my boss, @cunning raft, just told me to ban you

olive garden
#

mods usually forget the ban command, so I say you practice it on ZCM

swift root
#

I suppose I need to give you a shot here because he told me after you asked the question

brave radish
#

@swift root ban Larry for harassment please

swift root
#

sounds good

waxen panther
#

ew

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NMF IS MOD LETS GO

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@mossy vessel love u

mental meadow
#

brocco pleapeach

swift root
#

^

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i agree

meager tusk
#

Go where?

waxen panther
#

on a date

meager tusk
#

Let's do that.

brave radish
#

If someone has an answer as to whether or not I should state future questions in the form of commands, please state said answer.

swift root
#

perhaps.

#

?

mossy vessel
vernal moth
#

I think something is wrong with me

swift root
#

just figured it out?

vernal moth
#

whenever I hear go out, or on a date, I think of that eminem line

topaz mortar
vernal moth
#

I said, "Go with you where?" She said, "Out"
I said, "I'm a candle, I'll go out if you blow on me"

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I love that line

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the song got so many good lines

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I said "you straight?"
"No im bi"
She said"you drunk?"
"No im high"
"Im checking out the chicks"
She said "so am I"

meager tusk
vernal moth
#

they funny, ye

meager tusk
#

oh funny maybe

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but good idk

vernal moth
#

and just really smooth in the context

meager tusk
#

eminem kinda dropped off

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🛌 his new music

vernal moth
#

godzilla was good, no?

cobalt surge
#

I sence a smelly cat

ashen cliff
#

Bro.

meager tusk
vernal moth
#

ok but darkness was genius story telling wise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHQC4fAhcbU

YouTube
EminemVEVO
Eminem - Darkness (Official Video)

Eminem’s new album MUSIC TO BE MURDERED BY http://smarturl.it/MTBMB

https://eminem.com/darkness

http://eminem.com
http://facebook.com/eminem
http://twitter.com/eminem
http://instagram.com/eminem
http://eminem.tumblr.com

http://shadyrecords.com
http://facebook.com/shadyrecords
http://twitter.com/shadyrecords
http://instagram.com/shadyrecords
h...

▶ Play video
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cause it kinda tells one story and then it has a turn and suddenly its so much darker

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but once you heard the second part, the first part gets a whole new meaning

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but generally, am not really a rap fan, but I can enjoy eminem or some stuff by logic and stuff

wispy blade
#

storytelling in music

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vs

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landscape creation in music

ashen cliff
#

Idriz bro. I thought you only listened to stuff like: Prljavo Kazaliste - Ne zovi, mama, doktora.

vernal moth
#

every now and then spotify weekly recommendation will sneak in some slav rap

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and am like, no bro, wtf

worn crest
#

notmyfault is mod thonk seems like the role is new or a new color

twin lagoon
#

@mossy vessel panda_flush

wispy blade
#

not really

worn crest
mossy vessel
wispy blade
#

stef has had it since forever

twin lagoon
#

ew mbax

worn crest
#

i knew it 😁

unknown.png
#

something was different 😛

cold pumice
#

Woot woot 🎉

potent fossil
#

wow okay so let me get this straight

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not one

#

not two

#

but THREE cuties are mod now

#

is it me or is it roasting in this room

golden gust
#

it's getting hot in here

#

so take off all your clothes

vernal moth
#

all but cat please

potent fossil
#

they're already off

woven otter
#

congratulations stef on mod role

ashen cliff
#

So nothing really changed. kekwhyper

topaz mortar
#

PaperMC Team gets Germanized.

wispy blade
#

stef there to balance it

worn crest
topaz mortar
#

First Aurora, Mini and myfault now.

potent fossil
#

net positive

minor badge
#

mfw knonwald

velvet garden
#

ugh, can someone help me with gradle 7? i'm tryna upgrade a project but i'm kinda lost

minor badge
#

and god knows where sulu is from lol

worn crest
topaz mortar
twin lagoon
#

e.g. compile naming

velvet garden
topaz mortar
quasi valley
velvet garden
#

I've read the docs but I'm still lost (: I renamed all compiles to implementation but now some of my deps are getting shadowed when they weren't with Gradle 6

true canyon
ancient bolt
#

the implementation configuration has been around for a long time, and the compile configuration was deprecated for all of gradle 6

worn crest
ancient bolt
#

so, I'm not sure why you haven't already handled that

topaz mortar
velvet garden
velvet garden
ripe sphinx
#

ohmahgahd larry be mod

topaz mortar
velvet garden
topaz mortar
#

Depends what errors you get.

swift root
velvet garden
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My error is a filesize increase of 11 megabytes

d877e0c9230b77f080326e58897643bf.png
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as I said, some of my dependencies are being shadowed when they shouldn't be

topaz mortar
velvet garden
topaz mortar
#

compileOnly should work

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Which deps don't you want to be shaded?

velvet garden
topaz mortar
#

Instead of implementation -> compileOnly

#

5-10 minutes of maintenance after each Gradle upgrade could you save a lot of technical depth.

ripe sphinx
# swift root it's a rhyme!

Dear god I'm just adding up all the projects in my head... Syscraft, Hexaoxide, LP, all of egg's stuff, now paper
Are you related to kashike by any chance lol, you both seem to be involved in everything under the sun

quasi valley
#

le reee is everywhere

brave radish
velvet garden
cosmic raft
#

so there's that

minor badge
#

kashike and Larry have been in the same room, but there's no proving one wasn't a hologram

wispy blade
void void
#

LARRY OMG

#

!!!

swift root
#

emmy!!

#

omg!

void void
#

@swift root❤️ !!!

swift root
#

1!!! ❤️

golden gust
#

Just so you know

minor badge
#

@swift root marimoment

golden gust
#

I'mma go get my scientists to invent a combustable lemon

swift root
#

please do

void void
#

that burns your house down

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cough coughh

golden gust
#

YES, YES, HE SEZ WHAT WE'RE ALL THINKING?! BURN HIS HOUSE DOWN!~~

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Oh, I got it wrong

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but

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.catlove

limber knotBOT
swift root
minor badge
swift root
minor badge
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hello larreeeeh

swift root
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@serene bolt hi to you too

void void
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Proxii :peepoHappy:

#

F

velvet garden
#

is there a better way than exclude

swift root
serene bolt
cosmic raft
#

yup

ripe sphinx
#

see I'm trying to be one of the omnipresent canadian helpers too but it seems you're better at it than me

cosmic raft
#

canadians are nice

void void
#

canadians
happy
yep, true

ripe sphinx
#

how the fuck do you have enough hours in the day for all the things lol

topaz mortar
velvet garden
olive garden
#

bukkit/spigot/paper shades them in

swift root
olive garden
#

because bukkit/spigot/paper shades in some stupid json library

mossy vessel
#

Replace all from compile to implementation often leads to unwanted results. Gradle offers a whole lot of ways to use dependencies.

cosmic raft
olive garden
#

run a dependency tree/graph/whatever it's called

topaz mortar
#

At least with newer Gradle versions you have a big selection.

olive garden
#

that will show you why junit 4.12 is being shaded

velvet garden
olive garden
#

okay, I might be mentally handicapped again

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junit might not get shaded, it's definitely present at compile time though

velvet garden
olive garden
#

tbh since you seem to be using junit 5 you might want to fix that too while you are fixing your build.gradle :D

velvet garden
minor badge
olive garden
#

idk

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I think I'll go play a game instead that relies on instincts

velvet garden
#

xD

olive garden
#

sorry if I confused you with all the bullshit I've been sharing

waxen panther
olive garden
#

I'm not a troll, do not share lies

haughty bear
#

where can I get svgs of the paper icon?

olive garden
#

I always act in good faith

swift root
olive garden
#

doesn't mean I meant to

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people make mistakes

swift root
#

you make a point

brave radish
haughty bear
#

thanks

limpid comet
#

what is everyone's favourite backend web library? i'm looking for something that supports templating, wanna see what other people use

#

i could go express.js but i do not like js

wispy blade
#

i guess flask/ginja (python) are a thing

olive marlin
#

Depends what you need - Rocket for backend and tera for templating?

limpid comet
#

rocket is rust right

olive marlin
#

jinja2 is Python, tera is Rust version that's very similar.

ripe sphinx
#

I like spring + a vue/nuxt SPA

olive marlin
#

Yeah.

limpid comet
#

i'd prefer to render directly to html for this project

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i like svelte

minor badge
#

I'd just use rust with tera

limpid comet
#

i have yet to even learn rust

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scary

olive marlin
#

Good first project to learn Rust?

limpid comet
#

true

#

it looks very pog

olive marlin
#

I mostly did learn it because I was sick of every other language I know and Proxi recommended me a good Rust library for my project happeepoheart

toxic harbor
vernal moth
#

Games are always fun to make

toxic harbor
#

It covers pretty much all the basics of Rust

vernal moth
#

Cause it's often much logic and a fair bit of data structures

#

And you can easily expand

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File stuff for stats, network for multiplayer, UI, whatever

toxic harbor
#

Also wait I am in PaperMC discord lol. I thought this was Veloren discord because they often talk about Rust there

unkempt drift
#

...

toxic harbor
#

Either way it doesn't matter

vernal moth
#

Don't worry, you can stay here

toxic harbor
#

Joined mostly for the 1.17 FAQ

limpid comet
#

yea i am basically sick of every language

olive marlin
#

Rust has a bit of learning curve with lifetimes.

#

But it's really nice. Forced me to get better.

haughty bear
#

is there an svg available for fabric launcher?

void void
#

is this fine? it's a LAN World( look the protocol version, the number is very high)

unknown.png
topaz mortar
swift root
#

A slice of pie is $1.75 in Jamaica. it's $2.35 in the Bahamas

waxen panther
#

keep me informed

swift root
#

It's the pie rates of the Caribbean

brave radish
swift root
#

hahaha

#

those headlines are always gold

brave radish
#

I didn't know you were such a fan

swift root
#

I've done it once and for all

brave radish
unkempt drift
#

having trouble "Find[ing] answers in [y]our community curated knowlegebase"

unknown.png
swift root
stray oyster
brave radish
#

why is everything on this site about Yatopia?

stray oyster
#

It’s normal

brave radish
#

Larry rewrites Mojang to focus on Yatopia exclusivity instead of Yatopia exclusivity

swift root
#

the only answer you need is your own reflection in the dark screen

brave radish
swift root
#

good luck sending jars in syscraft tbh

#

any larry.jar software will be immediately removed

brave radish
#

zips jar

swift root
#

zips ZCM into a suitcase and throws into nearest creekbed

brave radish
#

zips laptop bag after putting away Discord cuz Larry is mean

swift root
#

:D

crystal compass
#

so martin can you start working on 1.17 before its released thx

warm anchor
brave radish
#

ask Mr. md to release the pre-releases 👀

haughty bear
topaz mortar
unkempt drift
#

I think they are pretty nice looking bojo

#

the anvil looks weird tho

haughty bear
#

I just don' know how to make a good color scheme

unkempt drift
#

like, ik its not supposed to have a flat surface

haughty bear
#

the anvil is forge's

unkempt drift
#

but...

#

in the round background, it makes it look off center I think

haughty bear
#

I was planning on, mod platform = background color, but most of my projects are paper, and some are multiplatform

#

I'd appreciate advice on the color scheme

wispy blade
#

@haughty bear terminal.sexy is pretty cool for generating random color schemes

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even though it's aimed at customizing your linux terminal :p

haughty bear
#

I'd like a constant white or black foreground across all icons

#

so I'm not sure if that site would help

#

although I think I'd stick with dark bg, light fg, unlike the yellow/black icon I have above

vernal moth
crystal compass
#

Hahahah

wind geyser
limpid comet
#

does any resident rusters know if writing rust code on windows is pepega or not

ancient bolt
#

rust is fine on windows

limpid comet
#

what IDE should i use

ancient bolt
#

clion + rust plugin

limpid comet
#

oh wow

#

intellij pogu

unkempt drift
#

not intellij, clion

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🙂

limpid comet
#

jetbrains

#

whatever

#

my brain doesn't work

swift root
#

brainjets

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phwooosh

novel steppe
swift root
#

you using a datapack

#

with the word wythers in it

#

perhaps William Wythers' Overhauled Overworld?

viral hornet
#

Also you're using purpur, perhaps seek support in their Discord

obtuse jasper
#

is purpur a thing? xd

swift root
#

it's literally just that one datapack camm, lol

swift root
viral hornet
#

Oh I'm on my phone and saw aikars flags warning & purpur lmao

novel steppe
#

If it was that datapack, I already restarted and everything is perfect, how strange, the datapack only changed some textures

unkempt drift
#

datapacks dont mess with textures?

#

I thought that was resource packs

swift root
#

it's a super heavy terrain gen datapack

unkempt drift
#

if you want to use that datapack, I suggest pre-generating your world with it, and then removing it

viral hornet
#

I like the name of the datapack it's catchy

magic river
#

Hey someone finally made the vanilla biomesoplenty

#

I figured it'd be a bukkit plugin but it took until you could just do it in vanilla

solid carbon
#

i need help with downloading paper

swift root
fervent charm
#

Does anyone have time to help me fix an issue with permissions? I've been working on this issue for about 6 hours now lmao

wraith trail
#

head to #paper-help and describe the issue that you are encountering

fervent charm
#

Is it an issue if it's not a paper supported server?

swift root
#

depends which it is

#

and what perms plugin you're using

#

and what the problem is

fervent charm
#

Kcauldron. I couldn't find a help discord for it

swift root
#

all of which we can only help with once you've described it 😄

wraith trail
#

is that even still a thing?

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Kcauldron that is

#

haven't heard of it in ages

ripe sphinx
#

I thought it was thermos now? or am I going crazy

wraith trail
#

oh maybe

waxen panther
#

@viral hornet hi there mister

fervent charm
#

kcauldron is what I found that works for ftb infinity evolved since it's a 1.7.10 server

wraith trail
#

yeah that probably won't really be supported here at all

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hadn't heard of permissionsbukkit in forever either

wispy blade
#

ask in ftb discord i guess

mossy vessel
viral hornet
#

What do I do for 4 hours to stay awake

wispy blade
#

watch starcraft 2 videos

magic river
#

porn

viral hornet
#

Hahaha

#

Hmm

obtuse jasper
#

watchmojo

wispy blade
#

no.

viral hornet
#

Nah im gonna go get a haircut as that'll kill an hour or so

left swift
unkempt drift
#

does configurate's object mapper only work with declared fields, not inherited ones?

lean kiln
#

it should work with inherited fields, looking at the ObjectFieldDiscoverer

unkempt drift
#

do you need to have fields for everything in a file?

#

like if ive got a name and a version key, but I try to map to an object that only has a name field, is that gonna work?

#

I can't seem to get it to 😅

lean kiln
#

like you want a field thats not included in (de)serialization?

unkempt drift
#

yeah, only working with deserialization

#

trying to convert hangar's system for reading plugin.ymls, bungee.ymls and velocity-plugin.json to use configurate

limber knotBOT
unkempt drift
#

and I'd rather not have to setup classes for everything, like commands, permissions, etc.

could just not use the object mapper, but I thought I'd try since ive never used it

lean kiln
#

easiest way is probably yo spam classes for everything

#

I might be remembering wrong but maybe ConfigurationNode is a type you can use in ConfigSerializable classes?

unkempt drift
#

oh, hmm lets see

#

nope, I know what I was missing

#

the stupid @ConfigSerializable annotation...

#

kinda key to the process I think

#

and yeah, it works fine if the object its trying to map to doesnt have fields for everything

viral hornet
#

Any hot PR's planned for 1.17 MM? aPES_Eyes

unkempt drift
#

idk, depends on what md_5 doesnt add

tropic flame
#

hard fork PR wen

warm anchor
#

After your nice donation of half a million dollars so the dev can have more time for this project 😉

tropic flame
#

honestly? i wouldn't mind if I could actually afford that lmao

viral hornet
#

GO clap FUND clap ME clap

winged panther
#

java 16 installation guide is 10 time ezer on paper than oracle him self
whyy thinking_gun
thanks paper

proud lance
#

has performance between 1.16.5 and 1.17 been discussed? I am curious if its worse/better

novel horizon
#

yeah sure everyone knows everything exactly, 1.17 has been here for months, so yeah

proud lance
#

snapshots

novel horizon
#

That's not a good thing to compare lol

proud lance
#

rcs

novel horizon
#

do you see any paper snapshots here?

#

🤷‍♂️

proud lance
#

can you stop being dumb for a second

#

you know entirely well what I am asking

novel horizon
#

can you though 🤔

waxen panther
#

we have no idea how the performance will be until all of papers patches are applied

#

it’s a dumb question

proud lance
#

I am inquiring about 1.16.5 vanilla perf to 1.17

tawdry coyote
#

spigot doesn't release its snapshots, so paper can't start working on 1.17 until spigot releases their update (unless yk hardfork wen /s)

novel horizon
#

minecraft might run a bit better with java 16 and some optimization, but noone knows for sure 🤷‍♂️

proud lance
#

as an idea

waxen panther
#

no one tests vanilla pre releases for performance here

#

It’d be a waste of time

proud lance
#

not like give me benchmarks with exact numbers

dull linden
#

imagine if mojang focused on performance for a release that would be so cool

viral hornet
#

Mobs lag, chunk loading lags, etc

waxen panther
#

Yeah bro imagine if Elon gave me $5 million that’d be so cool

novel horizon
#

They were talking about some little improvements in performance, how much is it, hard to tell

proud lance
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There were something like merging xp orbs (huh quite new right) and other few things

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feeling tho

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i got this feeling

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inside my bones

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it goes electric wavy when i turn it on

lean kiln
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@waxen panther do I send moderator inquiries to your dm?

viral hornet
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yes

waxen panther
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yes of course

lean kiln
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ok

viral hornet
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But along with three pings

waxen panther
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I will respond in 3-5 business months

viral hornet
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Because otherwise he might miss them

lean kiln
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wtf!