oof i'm thinking of something else then
#general
vernal moth
You mean the comment widget some blogs have?
worn ember
yeah
worn ember
oh yeah
vernal moth
Yeah
worn ember
thats what i was thinking about
worn ember
discord integration wen
vernal moth
We thought about that but writing a forum software so sooooo much work
viral hornet
Yeah for sure
worn ember
yeah you really dont want to spend your time on that xD
vernal moth
And discourse is really good
twin lagoon
xenforo 
worn ember
vernal moth
php
viral hornet
good in what sense?
vernal moth
Yeah, I think I'll pass
worn ember
php > whatever lang ur using rn
wide chasm
Xenforo is stupid expensive, but if Xenforo was free... I'd choose Xenforo over Discourse tbh
viral hornet
It's not that expensive, is it?
vernal moth
Xenforo always feel so heavy and the options are a mess
viral hornet
I use and pay for it and I don't think it costs that much.
wide chasm
I'd say 150 dollars is quite expensive, but that's up to you of course
twin lagoon
the base pricing isn't bad, but you have the same problem with the apple ecosystem
worn ember
is it self hosted?
twin lagoon
extensions etc are expensive
themes will cost you an additional $50+
lots of addons will cost you another additional $50 per addon or so
viral hornet
Well I guess in a project like paper where money isn't coming in it's expensive ofc
twin lagoon
it's not that expensive for minecraft servers no
viral hornet
I would happily pay the license fee for Paper if xenforo was used 
vernal moth
Base pricing doesn't even include a good search
wide chasm
Xenforo search is awful
viral hornet
Yeah it is pretty horrible.
twin lagoon
can be improved though
worn ember
i never find what i look for using it
twin lagoon
xenforo has an enhanced search option
vernal moth
Does spigot use the paid search?
twin lagoon
which also leverages ElasticSearch
wide chasm
But with Discourse I can never even find the most basic of options, at least with Xenforo those are sort of visible
twin lagoon
Does spigot use the paid search?
nah probably not
should keep in mind spigot is running an outdated, EOL version of xenforo
viral hornet
Idk if this is the paid search, but it's what they have: https://i.imgur.com/HIeMrnd.png
worn ember
tbh i've never even used the paper forums
wide chasm
I've reviewed some posts which were flagged
viral hornet
We thought about that but writing a forum software so sooooo much work
Thinking about this more because of this conversation, isn't a lot of it already done with Hangar?
wide chasm
But don't think I even have a single post on it
worn ember
i mean, we already have auth, already a posting system, so technically it wouldnt be that much more work?
viral hornet
Yeah
worn ember
and already a way to moderate them too i think
twin lagoon
gets complicated quickly though
viral hornet
mm
vernal moth
Hangar already has too basic moderation, we will most likely have to iterate on it
It's also feature creep, we can maybe talk about this later, but there is def a need for a forum, so makes sense to just use what we have now and let hangar post to it
viral hornet
Yeah for sure, long term goal it would be really nice though
viral hornet
Granted, all of this is just done in yours (and others) free time so wanting to do the easiest route is very understandable haha
vernal moth
just trick the sponge team into adding it
Mmh?
worn ember
trick them into adding forums to ore
vernal moth
Granted, all of this is just done in yours (and others) free time so wanting to ...
PRs appreciated 😂
vernal moth
trick them into adding forums to ore
That wouldn't help us? We don't share any code with ore
viral hornet
Ugh if I had the ability to contribute I would be all up in that
wide chasm
PR #42 "Adds forum"
200k additions, 20k removals
/s
vernal moth
Nothing more but inspired
viral hornet
especially to fix tiny things like this https://i.imgur.com/FSugNzX.png
vernal moth
Yeah, we first rewrote the backend, then rewrote the frontend and refactored the backend again
worn ember
xD
vernal moth
So there is nothing left of sponge code
viral hornet
time to learn vue
wispy blade
isnt vue just js
viral hornet
hello @quasi valley please teach me vue
vernal moth
Pretty much yeah
vernal moth
hello <@!259465250716254210> please teach me vue
I would be careful learning web stuff from kenny, lmao
viral hornet
hahaha
vernal moth
ive been learning angular, and its honestly not that bad hah
Urg, I hate it with a passion. Angular 1 was absolutely horrible, nowadays is better compared to that, but still shit
Had to deal with it when I was last reverse engineering minecraft.net to learn how the migration works
worn ember
other than routing fucking up for no reason, i have no issues with it
viral hornet
Why are there already 28 forks of hangar
vernal moth
(minecraft.net ships source mappings)
viral hornet
oh a lot are from people here
worn ember
oops
vernal moth
If you contribute you fork
worn ember
i get excited to contribute, then i look at the src and close intellij
vernal moth
C'mon it's not that bad
worn ember
xD true i just cba to learn how it all works
wispy blade
i get excited to contribute, then i forget i'm shit at programming and give up
worn ember
thats the wae
viral hornet
Yes it's very annoying
worn ember
tho learning angular has given me some inslight in how those frameworks work, as ive never used any before
so thats a good first step
wispy blade
the way my brain works: need to know how shit works exactly, then get assignment to do smth
worn ember
almost summer break tho, so maybe i'll have more time to delve into it
viral hornet
Your site (https://hangar.benndorf.dev/) is actually still the latest, yeah mini?
void void
almost summer break tho, so maybe i'll have more time to delve into it
Summer break for me and here I am wasting more time than during the school year.
During the school year I'm forced to optimize my free time which makes me learn a lot and get stuff done, summer not so much.
void void
Hello, me and my friends started a 1.16.5 mc server. And since we turned on anti xray we have not seen a singel diamond block. I have used over 8 iron pickaxes and have found none. I think something is wrong. But idk what
twin lagoon
anti-xray doesn't modify any blocks
warm anchor
void void
Hello, me and my friends started a 1.16.5 mc server. And since we turned on anti...
Disable anti-xray, get an xray mod or pack, check if you can find diamonds, if you can then you're just really unlucky going through that many pickaxes. (don't forget to re enable anti xray when done)
warm anchor
wut
quasi valley
that's one big brained strat
void void
isnt there a permission to bypass xray
Idk maybe
i forgot what it is
I don't use anti xray on any of my servers, never have and probably never will.
paper.antixray.bypass
Will try antixray bypass thing
ashen cliff
Good luck bro.
wispy blade
Good luck bro.
bit late, died in 2nd phase :(
ashen cliff
F.
void void
.xray
olive marlin
It's not encrypted AFAIK, password is sent in plain-text. You might want to consider tunneling it through something (VPN, SSH Tunnel, ...).
void void
In my experience with rcon in other games, namely halo custom edition, the security is often lacking.
Now, after testing with anti-xray off it will ”spawn” diamond blocks. But when I put anti-xray on again it wont be shown blocks
quasi valley
golden gust
Well, rcon with security?
That's basically "literally anything but rcon"
rcon is designed to be a plain text protocol, somebody did skim SSL onto it iirc at some point, but, that's not really rcon, and defo wouldn't be supported by the server
be better looking to see if mcjsonapi still works for just sending commands or if not
median cliff
hm. guys. where I can download 1.17 spigot or craftbukkit rc1? 😄
wide chasm
You can't
wide chasm
It isn't available to the public
golden gust
because spigot doesn't release it
why are you asking us, we're not spigot
We don't control if he releases something or not
wide chasm
I at least assume md_5 has something working on rc1, but I don't think he ever actually said that
twin lagoon
hello guys 1.17 release when? 😅
olive marlin
AFAIK spigotcraft is updated to rc1
twin lagoon
@olive marlin 
olive marlin
@twin lagoon 
wide chasm
Oh is the server open again
quasi valley
I just wonder why he hasn't made any sort of visible announcement for the test server
twin lagoon
@ashen cliff Bro.
ashen cliff
BRO!
golden gust
Yea, it sorta... death....
Somebody needs to create a replacement to it, but, like, dead, so...
There have been some forks of it, and updating it is pretty easy last I recall
olive marlin
@thin apex You can use tools like:
https://techgaun.github.io/active-forks/index.html
https://gitpop2.herokuapp.com/
I don't think there's one with commit amount, but it can show repo size etc.
waxen panther
@viral hornet 
olive marlin
Whoops, <@!209234044657991680> ^
Whoops
potent fossil
waxen panther
stray oyster
.eta
limber knotBOT
(See #❗-1-17) Paper for 1.17 will be released when it's released. In the meantime, every time you ask, we postpone it by an hour, so I believe this makes it 162 hours...
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
(See #❗-1-17) Paper for 1.17 will be released when it's released. In the meantime, every time you ask, we postpone it by an hour, so I believe this makes it 162 hours...
stray oyster
I still think we need a waiting-for-1.17 broadcast room that just plays elevator music
ashen cliff
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/851085424926523432/paperPlease.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/851085424926523432/paperPlease.png#
Very GOOD.
void void
Should i use openj9 or hotspot Java?
warm anchor
thank you for reaching out to the complain department. This information will be passed on!
void void
And what are the differences
ashen cliff
And what are the differences
Don't use J9, if you have to ask that.
void void
Don't use J9, if you have to ask that.
Why?
magic mesa
J9 works fine, what he's saying is if you don't understand the differences then probably don't use it
ashen cliff
It used to have a bunch of issues, but now it's pretty good. Tho is you don't know what it's for... good luck.
Things you get: AOT, shared cache bs and a better default GC.
Do I hear a 10? https://posili.me/i/2021-06-06_15-20-12.png
void void
what does /reload do?
mental meadow
potent fossil
madeline explains it better than literally anyone else so just click clack
also hi uwuwa
void void
because on the tutorial when I turn on anti-xray it says that I should do /reload.
twin lagoon
the memory usage in openj9 is definitely interesting
ashen cliff
Also jenkins sucks why does it not run on Java 16
It won't run on 16, but it can use 16.
magic mesa
Been using J9 for 2-3 year I think?
waxen panther
magic mesa
Hey gimple
ashen cliff
the memory usage in openj9 is definitely interesting
In my cursed use case it was worse. 
twin lagoon
oh yeah no i've used openj9 before but for in this case it's gonna be useful if it works properly
viral hornet
Your yaml is incorrect
simple island
can anyone tell me why is this error spamming in my console
frank otter
Can I have this
simple island
5 times on one second
twin lagoon
invalidconfigurationexception
simple island
how can i fix
twin lagoon
by fixing your YAML configuration
viral hornet
Paste the config to a paste service (hiding any credentials)
twin lagoon
presumably a "PowerRanks" issue
simple island
Paste the config to a paste service (hiding any credentials)
where is this
simple island
what config
viral hornet
Whatever one is broken
Also perhaps you should be using this if you're unfamiliar with YAML: https://svenar.nl/powerranks/editor/
simple island
but i dont know what is broken, this is what i am trying to find out
viral hornet
Alternatively you can find the default configuration files here to refer to: https://github.com/svenar-nl/PowerRanks/tree/master/PowerRanks
Wherever name: LUCA_DARK is
viral hornet
uhh
It's in one of the configuration files lol
Have you edited your players.yml or something lol
simple island
no...
frank otter
you can just grep for it
simple island
what is grep
simple island
what is on windows
frank otter
the os the server is running on
simple island
oh
frank otter
iirc dms are on
simple island
OMFG
bro
i found the problem
there was a fucking space in minus at the ranks config
...........
restive dove
Hey, does anyone know of a good factions plugin that works with dynmap?
wispy blade
?
wispy blade
HOW
void void
the 6500T would be the better CPU for MC server right?
i have an opportunity to get a nice 9400t for chaeap
and curious if it'd be worth the upgrade
twin lagoon
9400t >
potent fossil
greater lol
potent fossil
ima let you extrapolate that one for yourself
void void
wait, no i'm really stupid.. don't leave me
vernal moth
Never again. <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
I understand nothing about F1, but I was forced to watch the Monaco race a couple weeks back and was told that Schumacher was always last, so why the fuck is Hamilton last, that's illegal
potent fossil
Look at Turbo (1 Core) as Minecraft is mainly single-threaded it will be working on 1 core. What do you see
wispy blade
also: it's newer so it's probably better :p
void void
i see the 8500T being a better run fo rMC
sadly
such a sweet deal on this 9400t
i could basically get a free upgrade if i sold my 6500t
but alas
ashen cliff
I understand nothing about F1, but I was forced to watch the Monaco race a coupl...
It's a MARATHON NOT A SPRINT.
Goes and LOCKS UP.
potent fossil
8500T is not even on this page
golden gust
Erm, so, basically
void void
6500T*
ashen cliff
golden gust
F1 is trash
ashen cliff
Bro. We just out here watching MazeSpin.
potent fossil
@twin lagoon plz justify to the man why 9400T cause im too stupid to do so
golden gust
He left for a few years and then they dragged him back
void void
forza is bae
/s
golden gust
But, like, Ferrari basically had a ton of cash so their cars where always like the best
void void
oh wait @potent fossil you're thinking the 9400T is the way to go?
void void
brosky i'm so confused here
potent fossil
michael's brain go brrrr
golden gust
They've always been like, skating the line of the rules, and this year apparently they've made the spending rules more strict which apparently put a good massive bludger to the chest of Ferrari
I don't think Hamilton was ever really great, he just had the best car on the field
ashen cliff
Like straight up cheating?
potent fossil
@void void wait for michael to respond again about it cause im too dumb lol, or, go with your hunch but idk
🤷♂️
void void
who is michael
frank otter
I have a question about programming language design
potent fossil
@twin lagoon 
frank otter
should you be able to get values straight out of a strict def
void void
wait gimple you said that MC functions best on a single core
frank otter
*struct
potent fossil
correct
ashen cliff
9400T is better, better clocks, 2 more cores and more cache.
golden gust
Like, they where caught cheating with fuel at one point
ashen cliff
Also higher speed memory.
vernal moth
I miss old Schumacher, he's old af though and worn out
Uhhm, don't you know what happened to Schumacher?
ashen cliff
No. You have to look at the all core turbo as the minumum clock.
The lowered base clock is just for power saving BS Intel started pushing.
vernal moth
The Schumacher on the screen is his son, lol
vernal moth
Schumacher had a really bad ski accident and wasn't seen publicly since then
Most likely not able to talk or move and stuff, his condition isn't public
potent fossil
single core turboing from 1.8 to 3.4 is pretty sexy tbh
ashen cliff
It's marketing BS.
potent fossil
golden gust
The cores turbo but the machines are rarely rated to maintain that
wraith oracle
you'd hope that performance improves after 3 cpu generations
yeah, intel doesn't excel at that department
golden gust
Issue is that we're just re-rolling the same general design
ashen cliff
Skylake++++++
worn ember
just need some good old competition
potent fossil
so krusic you're tellin me turbo is just normal operation mode and the base clock is just a power saving marketing lie, so as such the all core turbo -> true base clock
ashen cliff
Daily reminder that Haswell is still the best CPU design ever.
ashen cliff
so krusic you're tellin me turbo is just normal operation mode and the base cloc...
Yes.
golden gust
the CPUs tend to turbo often, tbqh
potent fossil
@twin lagoon do you concur with this man
golden gust
Like, it's very rare that when you're using the machine for practically anything that it's gonna stick at base
twin lagoon
what are we talking about
wraith oracle
turbo isn't true base clock
ashen cliff
Baseclock = idle, all core turbo = normal load, other turbo states = actual load.
golden gust
Well, all core turbo drops the max turbo due to TDP limits
wraith oracle
all core turbo is basically normal load if the cpu can sustain it for long enough
which for the recent generations, it may not be the case
ashen cliff
You shouldn't hit the TDP limit with all core turbo, except with AVX.
golden gust
There is a wiki somewhere which lists the ratings for how much cores can OC
ashen cliff
Chipwiki.
void void
michael whats your opinion on it?
worn ember
i overclocked my old i5 dualcore from 2.6ghz to 3.2ghz, with a good old regular fan it was a bit hot but it was blasting
any higher would BSOD
plucky canopy
When Aikar is sus
worn ember
plucky canopy
wraith oracle
who is the second person
worn ember
Microsoft PowerPoint?
worn ember
My dad: so you should study more
Also my dad: so anyway i started blasting old people music
wispy blade
who is the second person
jerma985
meager tusk
my MSPT is 3x times higher with OpenJ9 than Hotspot
Bro. 0 MSPT here with KGBSpigot.
How to fix?
twin lagoon
9400
void void
thanks homiwe
worn ember
hmm, when i want to commit intellij says there are 2 errors but it compiles fine 
oh different module
we gucci
worn ember
as in mc version or build version?
twin lagoon
but why
wispy blade
you don't need paper for that tbh
worn ember
use vanilla then
vestal furnace
i do
theres a plugin
that reoloads the seed
each time
i /stop
well it gets a random seed
worn ember
ok, so download the right version from the website and replace the server jar with it
worn ember
if ur lucky
vestal furnace
ty
worn ember
if you dont delete the plugins they'll still be there yes
if they'll still work, that'll be something else
void void
i just got teh m720Q
upgrading from my m900tiny
god i hope u guys are right abotu the processor stuff and MC
worn ember
trusting rando's on the internet
void void
lmao forreal
worn ember
mikel is full of shit btw 
(thats a joke)
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ah yes upgrading from Intel CPU to Intel CPU
worn ember
AMD gang
wispy blade
my ""server"" machine with the old amd
void void
honest raft
caps
brittle vigil
worn ember
the operating freq
is that per core?
void void
i got such a good deal on the 9400T i can resell for $100 profit
so not a huge deal if i bought in error but yeah
upgrading my 6500T to 9400T machine -- trying to get a handle on if that's a good upgrade or not
unique swan
how i met ur mother vs friends
wind geyser
When is 1.17 supposed to release again? Not paper, but like actual version of minecraft
I keep forgetting
waxen panther
june 8th
magic river
Architecturally those two CPUs are basically identical, both Skylake (everything between Skylake and Ice Lake is just Skylake with minor or no tweaks)
So all you need to look at is clocks and cores and the 9400T has higher and more
twilit path
Just to complete it, there have been a lot of changes since. But I definitely agree that this has not for goal to replace paper or anything
magic river
Yes, that does mean Intel kept selling the same CPU for 5 or 6 years, that's why ARM Apple and AMD caught up 😛
golden gust
that comment was made at the redstone thing
twilit path
Oh my bad then :)
broken rampart
Yes, that does mean Intel kept selling the same CPU for 5 or 6 years, that's why...
8700k still within 10% perf of the newest processors lol
ashen cliff
8700k still within 10% perf of the newest processors lol
6700k would like to say something.
The 6700k is kind of like the RX 480/R9 290. Just gets better with time.
ashen cliff
Fact bro!
Just has to be 4Ghz bro right? Only the clock matters: https://posili.me/i/2021-06-06_17-42-11.png
vernal moth
My first CPU, the FX 8500 or whatever, still goes brrr in my nephews pc
Overclocked like crazy "8" cores, it's just a beast
They were called bulldozers for a reason
ashen cliff
The FX was epic if you have at least some basic liquid cooling.
vernal moth
Yeah AIO
ashen cliff
Remember pushing a 6 core one to 5Ghz on a 120mm AIO.
Good thing it wasn't my build.
ashen cliff
1.6V daily.
vernal moth
Yeah smth stupid like that
ashen cliff
But it still runs.
vernal moth
I asked him if noise matters and he said no I got a headset
So I just assumed 100% triple rad speed
Not sure what he does in summer when room is over 25C 😂
worn ember
helicopter noises
wispy blade
my FX just goes 60 C no problem 🤠
ashen cliff
Those old Corsair AIOs could get super super loud.
worn ember
tbh i should drill a hole in my wall and just pipe all the hot air out cuz i'm scorching my nuts here
golden gust
itt: We discuss the pros of hooking up a dryer hose to a computer
wispy blade
didnt ltt basically do the reverse of that
ashen cliff
Just use tap water bro.
worn ember
on what
wispy blade
cons: the hose will heat up
pros: if you have enough flow....
golden gust
Well, he like, watercalling around the entire room iirc
worn ember
just dump some cold water on it
golden gust
watercooling*
golden gust
I mean, I think that the solution is easy
wispy blade
krusic22 uses [Tap Water] on DarkEyeDragon
worn ember
wispy blade
It's not very effective...
golden gust
get an electric pump capable of pumping mineral oil around, get some radiators for outside capable of being used with the pumps, and, build an aquarium
ashen cliff
Btw did natural pink sheep get less rare?
wispy blade
mineral oil PC
worn ember
If I watercooled them, they would be gone.
just gotta put in some more work to keep them on temp
never seen a pink sheep
wispy blade
ok but have you ever seen a molten ender fluid cow in the wild
anybody remember that Fluid Cows mod
ashen cliff
Daily reminder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyKIZPuepl8
worn ember
its all fun and games until it ionizes and fries your pc
ashen cliff
I like how Andy is always just standing there like the biggest baller.
wispy blade
isnt mineral oil supposed to not ionize
ashen cliff
Correct.
But if you contaminated it...
Anyway that's 3M Novec... you can't even buy it as a normal person.
worn ember
as long as its not exposed to anything that could give it off
ashen cliff
Already tried.
worn ember
Cuz krusic
wispy blade
fair
ashen cliff
I could avoid using Delta fans in that case.
wispy blade
just krusic things i guess
ashen cliff
Since fans are more expansive than the liquid.
wispy blade
nope, sorry
wispy blade
the red bar on the right LOL
worn ember
get yeeted
vernal moth
13s max, kekw
quasi valley
1.17 is pretty interesting in how you have to obtain some of the new blocks, like finding shipwrecks, mineshafts, trading with villagers, the wandering trader, or filling cauldrons 
vernal moth
Isn't most of that temporary?
quasi valley
yeah, still interesting tho :p
subtle hedge
hai
warm anchor
Finally lava in cauldron
ashen cliff
Leather dye washing when?
twin lagoon
@warm anchor 
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> <:AYAYA:802527009837678592>
Hello Michael 
simple island
can someone help with something? i added the plugin "trade system" and, gave this tradesystem.trade.initiate and tradesystem.trade permisions to members and they cant trade eachother
golden gust
if you have a competent perm plugin, use its verbose mode
otherwise, time to read the docs/speak to the plugin author
wide chasm
Maybe one of you knows this. For Java bytecode, is it possible to have an iload instruction before an istore instruction (disregarding method parameters). And if so, should in this case the default value be assumed zero? The JVM spec states that "The local variable at index must contain an int.", so I think it's illegal to have that combination, but if there's some default value at play, then that doesn't have to be the case of course.
frank otter
I don't know about java bytecode, but in LLVM if you tried it you'd get an int undefined which I think is either 0 or whatever is in memory at that particular place
I don't think it's a segfault tho
worn ember
my guess would also be that it takes whatever value is currently at that adress
wide chasm
The JVM spec states that if a "must" is not satisfied, the behaviour afterwards is undefined, so I don't think the JVM would necessarily segfault either, I'm just not certain if there's some "default value" stuff at play here or not.
I'm guessing there isn't
twin lagoon
@warm anchor HELLO UR NOT FOLLOWING ME ON TWITTER YET?????????
twin lagoon
Bro. Shut up KGB.
wispy blade
w
olive marlin
Does discord get broken when someone has right to left text in name or what?
(see who is typing)
quasi valley
lmao
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@quasi valley hottietv
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> HELLO UR NOT FOLLOWING ME ON TWITTER YET?????????
Twitter not on discord profile
late lark
How do i make it so i am able to directly connect to a server even if it is apart of a bungeecord?
ping me if u know
warm anchor
look at ur notifs
Lol I was on my weeb profile so didn’t get it
golden gust
you can't
warm anchor
twin lagoon
Lol I was on my weeb profile so didn’t get it <:PepeLa:798951090539987004>
your main profile is literally a weeb profile already
how can it be more weeb
golden gust
just connect through the proxy, use forced hosts if you want hostname > server mapping
warm anchor
Oh shit you haven’t seen my weeb one then 
vestal jasper
eternuwuity
twin lagoon
@vestal jasper uwu
vestal jasper
uwu
vestal jasper
mfw
late lark
what is server mapping
warm anchor
eternuwuity
worn ember
warm anchor
worn ember
vestal jasper
oh no
round grove
what
ashen cliff
Use Vanilla. Simple.
vestal jasper
ok ngl the lack of a video preview made me sus of that
glad it's just a normal video
vestal jasper
I think around 1.13?
warm anchor
Wait
round grove
I think around 1.13?
Is that an actual feature?
round grove
bruh i thought it was a bug lmao
vestal jasper
oh yeah 1.9, 1.13 was just them adding different trap doors
left swift
wtf my discord was scrolled up like 5 days ago
quasi valley
sounds like a you problem
late lark
you connect with hostname, it automatically sends you to X server
Idk how to do that
olive marlin
Use your proxy software. For example in Velocity config:
[forced-hosts]
"minigames.example.com" = ["minigames"]
"lobby.example.com" = ["lobby"]
"factions.example.com" = ["factions"]
If you join factions.example.com it'll put you on factions server instead of lobby.
left swift
kneny i'll fight you 
quasi valley
try me 
frank otter
what is velocity
olive marlin
.g velocitypowered
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://velocitypowered.com/
frank otter
wait so like bungeecord
quasi valley
but better
wispy blade
it has luckperms
olive marlin
I love how when you open the plugins section on forums, on the first "page" 5 out of like 20 plugins are by Oskar.
unkempt drift
There’s a category on hangar for velocity plugins
olive marlin
@quasi valley MiniMOTD support to Maintenance wen?
quasi valley
oh no wait, thought you meant minimessage/adventure support
olive marlin
Oh, Minimessage support would be epic.
But meaning this:
Using ServerListPlus? Maintenance will toggle its status when enabling maintenance and reenable the SLP motd when disabling maintenance
stray oyster
There’s a category on hangar for velocity plugins
quasi valley
Oh, Minimessage support would be epic.
my goal is to do that before 2023 
olive marlin
quasi valley
I can do that
olive marlin
I heard there's a special someone who LOVES build systems, especially gradle.
minor badge
@lean kiln hello ?
olive marlin
I need to finish rewriting my backend setup before 1.17 and then hopefully I'll have more time to contribute such features myself 🙂
stray oyster
About hangar
Will there be version tags
And no not the stupid spigotmc style tags
Some that you can actually filter by decently
vernal moth
I wanna do way more with tags for search, currently they aren't searchable
But that's hard
But basically, in hangar you have a dependency on multiple versions of a platform
Like, your plugin might depend on paper 1.13 and velocity 1.3
Or would make more sense, lol
olive marlin
Ugh, I just noticed that hangar doesn't hide edit buttons, even if you are not logged in.
vernal moth
Since you can have different jars for different platforms
vernal moth
Ugh, I just noticed that hangar doesn't hide edit buttons, even if you are not l...
That's a mistake, can you open an issue with details? We normally try to hide them
olive marlin
Sure.
vernal moth
And try pressing it and see if at least backed does validate it 😂
golden gust
just tested it, window opened, it popped a message saying gotta be logged in when I clicked save
lean kiln
yeah supporting minimotd would be fucked lol
i relocate my own classes to multiple places as well as relocate adventure and other deps differently on each platform
quasi valley
lean kiln
universal jar :pepela:
quasi valley
yeah the universal jar is, again, the problem why I cant just add adventure support to my Maintenance plugin 
and after Via, I dont have all too much motivation to go through that again
vernal moth
Should be an easy PR
https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/blob/master/frontend/components/modals/versions/DependencyEditModal.vue#L4
Needs an v-if $perms.canEditProject or however the perm is called, else hopefully I can take a look tomorrow
novel horizon
vernal moth
Yeah they take last damage source into context
fallow tapir
Noted.
vernal moth
Who's Kevin?
radiant oriole
Fact!
vernal moth
Oh that Kevin
radiant oriole
Yes it's me haha
meager tusk
Kevin is the American ambassador to Balkan
vernal moth
Oh god
meager tusk
Fact!
radiant oriole
let's not lol
vernal moth
Bro!
meager tusk
He's modest bro!
radiant oriole
not this...
golden gust
I too am a american ambassador of shit
golden gust
y'all so bad that even italy would be like "Nah, I don't wanna get my foot in that"
and they are literally a sandle full of shit
radiant oriole
I'm italian 
iron zephyr
Quick question: is there any personally identifiable information I should be worried about before uploading a bunch of server worlds to the web?
meager tusk
LOL
iron zephyr
I mean, there are UUIDs in the player folder, but those are public... right?
meager tusk
y'all so bad that even italy would be like "Nah, I don't wanna get my foot in th...
Where are you from bro?!
novel horizon
yep in world folder there's your passwords
golden gust
am from britbong land
novel horizon
and your ip
radiant oriole
Worlds themselves no, you're fine. Just don't upload your logs and be careful about plugin data if you upload that.
novel horizon
and your gender
meager tusk
Bro!
novel horizon
everything
iron zephyr
Medical history too???!?
novel horizon
yep
meager tusk
How much does a dentist checkup cost there bro?!
novel horizon
everything
vernal moth
I mean, there are UUIDs in the player folder, but those are public... right?
Just delete player data, saves you space, they are usless anyways if you wanna share a world
novel horizon
why do you think world border is so big?
vernal moth
I encode my private key in the bedrock pattern of my spawn
novel horizon
basically there's no info that should be dangerous to share, you can share the whole folder, but it is better to delete playerdata
iron zephyr
Cool, no reason to not delete playerdata I guess. Thanks. I was just being lazy 😄
iron zephyr
I encode my private key in the bedrock pattern of my spawn
That would be kinda cool. Like a minigame 😄
novel horizon
(although maybe not, because if somebody playing there opens it they will be without items and on spawn instead of last position when I think about it 🤔 )
iron zephyr
ohhhh
novel horizon
depends on why do you share the world
meager tusk
I encode my private key in the bedrock pattern of my spawn
Least German approach to cryptography
iron zephyr
I mean, there's really nothing in playerdata, right?
novel horizon
no
iron zephyr
I'm sharing it because our server is shutting down and the kids want copies. They probably care about their stuff 🤷♂️
novel horizon
just player data.. inventory, health and such, position..
meager tusk
Don't worry bro. I know this funky british guy who can get you a copy!
novel horizon
Just share it as it is then
vernal moth
I'm sharing it because our server is shutting down and the kids want copies. The...
Yeah then I would keep player data
No joke tho, the enigma was fucking genius
iron zephyr
Cool, thanks.
novel horizon
iron zephyr
🙂
novel horizon
Enigma was genius but also bad
vernal moth
And it was actually really lucky that gay brit was able to solve it
meager tusk
british people are only smart when gay
vernal moth
^
meager tusk
🚶♂️
novel horizon
it had the weakness that the letter coulnt be itself right
vernal moth
That was one, yeah
But also the weakness was they Germans had predictable input in the morning
novel horizon
like sure it was genius kinda, it could have been better, but in that time it was great, especially at the start
vernal moth
Which allowed turning to calibrate his stuff
novel horizon
at the start like wth is this
meager tusk
But also the weakness was they Germans had predictable input in the morning
yeah that whole Praise Mario was a bad idea
vernal moth
I'll yell that the next time so see some Nazi demo
meager tusk
He's the Praise Charlie Chaplin guy
feral sluice
anybody know link to protocollib discord guild?
vernal moth
There is non
feral sluice
oh... ok, thanks
vernal moth
You can try in #paper-dev
Most of the time you aren't asking about protocollib but the protocol anyways
unkempt drift
idk, I get the feeling a protocollib discord would be a pain
olive marlin
@unkempt drift I'll make sure to reduce number of Paper PRs from you by flooding you with Hangar bug reports!
🙃
unkempt drift
wow, trying to own me by... improving something else I work on 🙂
olive marlin
The category filtering doesn't work either?
olive marlin
Also getting Content Security Policy errors in console smh
olive marlin
And there's no icon - literally unusable!
unkempt drift
mini was messing w/that so idk about CSP
what happened to the icon we all liked?
wasnt there one?
olive marlin
It also fails to load cloudflare JS because of CSP
unkempt drift
vernal moth
Sucks for CloudFlare
unkempt drift
olive marlin
And tries to communicate with hangar_new_auth:8000.
vernal moth
I would call csp blocking CloudFlare js a feature
They got no buisness accessing my users, smh
Only I get to spy on them
Do we have GA yet? 😂
olive marlin
Avatars don't work because auth is not setup properly.
You use Python/Django in there?
wraith trail
The other logo in that post looks exactly like the houzz logo, but they're both super nice
worn ember
let me ruin the logo for you:
its one paper being bent over doggy style and the other paper banging it from the back
you're welcome
wispy blade
- Posting pornographic, distasteful, or excessively violent content.
worn ember
im just interpreting the logo, its my artistic freedom
olive marlin
Should ban MM for posting such images, I agree.
limpid comet
unkempt drift
nah, I just dont think you have risen to the level of being able to see the straw holes
worn ember
🍞
woven otter
hangar logo is sheets of paper?
proud lance
what about a hanger with a paper airplane?
woven otter
coat hanger 
wispy blade
grammer is me pasion
unkempt drift
I mean, the logo isnt chosen yet, I just think thats the best concept we've gotten so far
feel free to make a super awesome one yourself
waxen panther
a
cunning raft
@waxen panther
unreal pike
is it possible to use pterodactyl or some sort of server manager for localhost
golden gust
yes
unreal pike
do i install pterodactyl on my own computer?
wispy blade
ideally you'd install it on a secondary computer
wraith trail
there's two parts, a daemon and then the web component
so really depends what you actually want
unreal pike
ideally you'd install it on a secondary computer
would a vm work
unreal pike
okay thank you
golden gust
I mean, if you're on windows, you'll need to install it in a VM
wispy blade
nobody reads the docs anymore 😔
worn ember
doxiwoxi
wispy blade
shut up dawkeyedwagon owo
worn ember
wtf hate speech vs dragons
unreal pike
if i run a localhost server on ptero via a VM, it will only use resources allocated to the VM, right?
golden gust
Well, yes
unreal pike
and if i have say 10 cpu cores and i give my vm 5, are the cores shared or completely separate?
golden gust
shared
unreal pike
okay thank you
waxen panther
void void
r34 wen
cunning raft
@static badge
warm anchor
Additionally to what sulu added https://auri.gay/top-secret
Don’t left click on her I warn you 
wind geyser
I just managed to crash my server
formal turret
Nice
vestal jasper
Additionally to what sulu added https://auri.gay/top-secret
connection refused
wind geyser
`---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// I'm sorry, Dave.
Time: 6/6/21, 8:01 PM
Description: Exception ticking world
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space`
LOL
-- System Details -- Details: Minecraft Version: 1.16.5 Minecraft Version ID: 1.16.5 Operating System: Linux (amd64) version 5.11.0-7614-generic Java Version: 16.0.1, Oracle Corporation Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode, sharing), Oracle Corporation Memory: 84331528 bytes (80 MB) / 805306368 bytes (768 MB) up to 805306368 bytes (768 MB) CPUs: 4 JVM Flags: 2 total; -Xmx768M -Xms768M CraftBukkit Information: Running: Paper version git-Paper-764 (MC: 1.16.5) (Implementing API version 1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT) false
It's my fault, but I just find it funny
worn ember
.gay tld's are a scam lmao
crystal compass
should I be practicing encapsulation 
shell vine
warm anchor
<:paperOhhh:826856023675371571>
brave radish
Discord, I am quite certain that "T" is supposed to go before the "A"
it used to say taco
now it says ACO:tacoparrot:paperOhhh:paperUwU::knenypat::knenypat_upsidedown::demoncatA::knenypat_cursed::zed::spookeh_kneny::z750::thumbs_up::clap::grin::partying_face::party::pikoh::taco:T
short yarrow
So when you need to merge branches, do you merge/rebase locally first then push?
unkempt drift
If it’s not a pr, yeah
short yarrow
Okay someone was saying you don't do it locally which confused the hell out of me
When you try to merge a PR and there's a merge conflict, do you merge locally fix the conflict, push the fix then merge the PR?
brave radish
Did you mean "locally fix the conflict, push the fix (to the PR's branch) then merge the PR (to master)?"
unkempt drift
Yeah, that’s an option, or GitHub has a conflict fixer
short yarrow
Yeah locally fix the commit and push the fix to the PR's branch and then merge the PR to mater
Oh github has a conflict fixer
How would you fix the conflict locally, would you merge the changes from master to your feature branch?
brave radish
You probably couldn't "just" merge the changes from master
you'd just look at the new code in master and like pretend you were writing the PR based off of that originally, only you have your feature branch to copy/paste from
true canyon
I do a rebase pull
potent fossil
henlo
upper flicker
oh wow its mbax
potent fossil
i love mbax
brave radish
.xray
true canyon
i love simple
warm anchor
always forgot mbaxter also players dota
potent fossil
@warm anchor u give me dota 1-1 lessons until i am pro? for free?
wow, thanks ur so nice
true canyon
always forgot mbaxter also players dota
I randomed meepo today. Life is pain.
warm anchor
Just dont level ult 
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> u give me dota 1-1 lessons until i am pro? for free?
teaching someone dota is the most hellish experience one can go through though
warm anchor
true canyon
We should have teach-simple games.
true canyon
Turbo ftw! :3
warm anchor
true canyon
Of course that's a thing.
warm anchor
Deso CM has 64% WR!
waxen panther
i dislike dota as much as the next guy but i dont think you can be judging games in a minecraft discord
true canyon
Deso CM has 64% WR!
Survivorship bias
warm anchor
mossy trellis
warm anchor
hi test. this is dad
glossy birch
Hi dad, this is Oreo
wispy blade
@warm anchor blub
glossy birch
Oreo is hungry and hungry is oreo
Oreo likes to eat vanilla ice cream topped in Oreo crumbles just like in the BK Oreo shake
wispy blade
BK
minor badge
using a decent antivpn?
egg had some decent one, but I guess that's maintained by Larry now
unkempt drift
Anti vpn or smth
twin lagoon
twin lagoon
god i love kori
twin lagoon
untold copper
day 3 of trying to get abs: my arms hurt lol
waxen panther
vernal moth
You know you are supposed to rest sometimes, right?
vernal moth
As in, a whole day
Lol
My watch tells me how long to rest, that's kinda cool
Last Sunday it yelled at me to rest for 50 hours, i really did go to far then 😂
untold copper
As in, a whole day
wat
no
time waits for no one!1!!!11
i shall get abs >:c
(i shall also rest someday)
vernal moth
Your muscles only grow in those rest days, lol
quasi valley
vernal moth
Oh god
waxen panther
god this is painful
vernal moth
If you wanna train, at least learn the basics please
untold copper
yes good idea mini
waxen panther
snoopa ask one of your friends that knows what they're doing for help
vernal moth
Like, am no prod, but I know about the importance of resting
vernal moth
What do you think why ppl not only train one area but switch areas daily?
untold copper
then whole day is sitting in classes and studying
rest days yes i should make a schedule for one of those
waxen panther
limber knotBOT
Noah does use online mode
shell vine
Then alts are impossible to be unlimited
limber knotBOT
Alt lists are abundant and easy to get, though. 100x stolen alts also costs like 5€, so it's not exactly hard to just bot.
shell vine
Not hard to mass ban either
limber knotBOT
Nobody has the time to mass ban hundreds of cheap accounts.
night falcon
hey
i'm scratching my head here
is there a way to compile papermc for a specific version of minecraft?
ashen cliff
Yes. Just checkout the desired version branch.
waxen panther
why are you trying to first
night falcon
I have a specific mod that only runs on 1.7.10
waxen panther
paper did not exist then
waxen panther
sh
minor badge
it won't compile out of the box afaik
waxen panther
we dont speak about that one 😷
night falcon
damn
mossy vessel
Thanks and goodbye, we're dropping 1.7.10
night falcon
thank you
ashen cliff
Last PR from caoli. The one and only legend.
woven otter
Yeah there is a big issue that you need to solve before you can compile any of the old versions kek
night falcon
welp, this sucks
shell vine
Nobody has the time to mass ban hundreds of cheap accounts.
Grep logs, use regex to filter out the names, sort unique accounts, more regex to add ban command to names, paste hundreds of commands into console, EZ
ashen cliff
Grep logs, use regex to filter out the names, sort unique accounts, more regex t...
And how do you filter real players?
shell vine
I assume real players will not be saying the same shit as the bots are spamming
ashen cliff
Welcome to Twitch copy pasta.
shell vine
But what do I know I've only dealt with it since 2011