general

[warm anchor]

Ok boomer!

[left swift]

Yatopia stealing patches without following licenses?

[golden gust]

Yea, well, what you gonna do, tell wolv on us?

[left swift]

They gonna yiff on u cat

[rare fiber]

You guys aren't a problem Paper. You're pretty chill from what I know.

[warm anchor]

I want to speak to the manager of Minecraft

[cosmic raft]

yes hello

[magic river]

I was considering doing that when he did

[rare fiber]

xD

[warm anchor]

[magic river]

At this point I wouldn't bother but killing Spigot seemed like a nice way to go out

[vernal moth]

Only server software worth considering is paper, tuinity or Purpur. Mmmaayybe airplane. The rest I wouldn't touch with a. Ten foot pole cause they are generally made by ppl that don't have a clue what they are doing or have a history of world corruption issues and stuff

[golden gust]

shamefully your death lead to the rise of spigot 😦

[rare fiber]

Look what you did

[warm anchor]

Md is just waiting for paper hardfork

[ashen cliff]

Haha. Not even close.

[warm anchor]

Bro!

[golden gust]

Shut the fuck up krusic

BRO

[ashen cliff]

Bro!

[magic river]

I'm talking about 2014 but, yeah, sure, whatever

[warm anchor]

BOOMER

[left swift]

Amaranth do u like my pfp

[magic river]

https://giphy.com/gifs/vh1-scared-famous-26u43IWeN2TXcECv6

[warm anchor]

[golden gust]

don't know, don't care

[left swift]

U should dmca the twitch streamer first ur the real amaranth

[magic river]

I thought have trademarked it 😛

[golden gust]

Why would I care about somebodies age?

their age is 100% irrelevant to any form of discussion here

[left swift]

When are u showing the beauty in life are the tickets sold out

[warm anchor]

Wait how’s that related to current fork discussion

Did I miss anything

I am bad at following topic if chat goes too fast

[left swift]

Who tf is Jerry

[potent fossil]

17 more days to more Rick and Morty fellas oooowwweeeee oh boy...me and Rick and Morty forever 100 years Rick and Morty buuurrrp

[magic river]

I don't get this one

[warm anchor]

Leader of yatopia

[left swift]

From Tom and Jerry the cat and mouse?

[potent fossil]

Oh did I walk into some drama

[left swift]

Not drama just fork talk

[warm anchor]

No go away fimple

[potent fossil]

👀

[vernal moth]

Yatopia just had a really bad reputation and are yet to do something to disprove that those labels ppl attach to them aren't true

But why care

[magic river]

md5 was also just a kid when Spigot started, he was even in some of the inner circles of Bukkit before that

We helped mold him into the high quality asshole he is today

[golden gust]

gud job

[warm anchor]

|| I mean some still believe he’s still a kid ||

[left swift]

I blame cat

[potent fossil]

he's gotta be my age give or take a few years. 23-26

[left swift]

34

Oh yea 23

[vernal moth]

I do believe that you are a kid before you get real world job experience and have your own apartment and stuff

[magic river]

So... 25?

[left swift]

Being a kid is a state of mind

[vernal moth]

Yeah checks out amaranth ^^

[ashen cliff]

So 75.

[vernal moth]

Am 24 tho 😂

[golden gust]

brings around a nerf blaster to nomanas

[warm anchor]

Easy there not everyone lives in Vancouver /s

[left swift]

Exactly

[golden gust]

Still waiting for the full on beard mini

[magic river]

I more or less consider everyone under 25 a kid, mostly because after that I stopped looking back as my previous year and thinking of myself as a kid

[potent fossil]

you also hit the nationality and job lottery

big wins

[warm anchor]

Y’all can grow beard? Mine just falls off by itself once it reach certain length

[golden gust]

[cosmic raft]

the trick is to use more glue

[potent fossil]

mine is at like 2 inches right now and wont grow anymore

[left swift]

Picked the good starting buffs

[warm anchor]

[left swift]

😳

[golden gust]

Bro, that's not a beard, that's cake

[potent fossil]

@cosmic raft do you like the candies or did i do a fuck up and you cant eat em

[magic river]

I have a full time beard these days

[golden gust]

I read candles for a second there

[cosmic raft]

have only tried one of them so far

[magic river]

I used to only have one when I got lazy about shaving then would finally get rid of it because it didn't grow right

Now it looks good so I just try to keep it tidy

[golden gust]

I'm conflicted with a beard, some days I wanna have a full on beard

[potent fossil]

mine is growing really annoyingly, so im just letting it grow. not like im going out rn anyway

[left swift]

Wtf

[golden gust]

other days I wanna be clean shaven, get a pretty pink dress and prance around the field

[left swift]

Paragraphs in paper general

[potent fossil]

Literally who in this community did any of that Castafer

[golden gust]

I mean, people need to not

But, humans are shit

[magic river]

You can rock a beard and a pink dress

[rare fiber]

Paper did none of this. But I'm not specifying who.

[merry talon]

who the fuck is jerry

[potent fossil]

Then tf is it in paper for

lmao

[golden gust]

especially when you get into the edge-case of horrors

[warm anchor]

Are you sure Jerry is ok with you share such information? I thought he’s making an announcement

[left swift]

Lmao

[golden gust]

shamefully this community as a wider group is shit at removing bad actors 🤷‍♂️

[warm anchor]

You should still get his personal permission first. Just my suggestion

[left swift]

Ok I go watch something actually entertaining until tomorrow when I get bored at work and come and shitpost here again

Goodnight gamers

[vernal moth]

Oh I won even more lotteries. But at least am aware of how privileged I am

[broken rampart]

just a tl;dr for this dumb fork drama castafer is from yatopia and blames purpur for harassing yatopia and is now trying to detective his way some proof that purpur sabotaged them.

better tl;dr: ignore all this because you have a million better things to do with your lives

[potent fossil]

i need clarification. is this something someone did, or...are we just ranting in general

alright then

[left swift]

Lmaooooo

[potent fossil]

can we just stfu about it in paper if someone from paper didnt do it, like this aint paper's drama

[golden gust]

I mean, if we're setting billy on fire I can get behind it

[left swift]

Billy is sometimes nice

[golden gust]

He's already got a few dozen carrier bags of gas around

no

[potent fossil]

lol

[magic river]

I thought Purpur was just one person

[left swift]

Why new forks always pick names that sound like furry conventions

[potent fossil]

Well it's too late, you came here complaining about it and released the drama. It's your fault you talked about it and let other people do research and comment about it

[left swift]

Yatopai, purrpurr

[magic river]

Purpur is a block in Minecraft 😛

[golden gust]

To be fair, billy was drunk

[potent fossil]

Stop talking about it if it's "not supposed to be released"

[magic river]

Although it's also Paper while drunk

[potent fossil]

Seriously, stop, you're being idiotic

Even it he did delete it, it's logged in IRC forever

[limber knot]

Hi

[rare fiber]

But less people will see this.

[potent fossil]

Oh well.

[limber knot]

I can still see the other message too

[left swift]

Theres actually something pretty funny with that

[potent fossil]

You're the one who brought it here, and then chatted about it long enough for people to get tired of it, and then someone TLDR'd it. It's no one's fault BUT yours.

So just, stop? kthx

[cosmic raft]

and here is the part where I say the conversation topic in here can change

https://tenor.com/view/kid-child-car-run-over-gif-4775235

[golden gust]

Literal murder

[potent fossil]

Hey where did you get a video of me running over cat

[golden gust]

god, I wish that was simple

[left swift]

That's what cat does

[potent fossil]

Kash can you delete that please

[golden gust]

TIL that simple is a girl

[rare fiber]

What a filthy thing to do, from just misunderstanding me.

[golden gust]

Explains a lot

[potent fossil]

That wasn't supposed to come out until the court system dealt with it

[golden gust]

runs

[potent fossil]

[warm anchor]

Guys we can resolve this in more civil ways

[golden gust]

Drop the convo

[cosmic raft]

again, change the subject

or you'll find me less nice

[rare fiber]

He's right.

I was just upset about this.

[warm anchor]

[potent fossil]

I am so fucking confused im going back to subnautica

[magic river]

Where is the pride paper-chan?

[left swift]

Oceans are scary

[golden gust]

what's paper-chan?

[magic river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/826997823786319933/Paper-chan_Optimized.png

[potent fossil]

She cyoot

[magic river]

I'm glad you asked, I just happen to have this link handy

[golden gust]

Oh

[left swift]

U cant fake that anymore cat Aurora blew ur cover

[golden gust]

what anime/manga? looks interesting for research

hm?

[potent fossil]

PaperMC: the anime

[cosmic raft]

[left swift]

Zzzcat the musical

[potent fossil]

honestly we'd make a pre lit anime

[magic river]

Wait how did you do that?

[potent fossil]

very chaotic

[left swift]

Whose the main character

[cosmic raft]

do what, amaranth?

[magic river]

Oh, second one has an a

[potent fossil]

Varying main characters per episode

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvzCmV3_12c

[left swift]

Black mirror it

[magic river]

This is one of those anime about a setting, not a person

Actually I don't think those exist

[golden gust]

can we have an EP which is just simple roaming around the place and injuring himself in various stupid ways?

[left swift]

The simple character arc is boring

[potent fossil]

that's just what i do normally tho

[cosmic raft]

i have an idea for simple

https://tenor.com/view/die-hate-legos-treadmill-step-on-lego-gif-7274235

[golden gust]

jesus

[left swift]

[potent fossil]

that's mean kash

[cosmic raft]

exercise time

[left swift]

[golden gust]

simple

I hope you step on a lego and stub your toe on the wall as you jump in pain

[potent fossil]

wtf 😭

[cosmic raft]

alternatively

do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHMb_dsEsEE

[golden gust]

Like, if you did that within 5 minutes of waking up, would you just go back to bed?

[viral hornet]

🙂

[left swift]

U can do this

https://youtu.be/5t53TcKIlMc

[potent fossil]

I'd be back in bed after stepping on the lego cat, don't need anything more

[golden gust]

lol

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

Not cool bro.

[left swift]

[merry talon]

Why even send that

[ashen cliff]

Legit why?

At least send the IP or something.

[rare fiber]

Ikr! Especially with popular services you use. So frustrating. That's why we got:

https://tenor.com/view/google-logo-gif-7538369

[vernal moth]

Advertising

Good first contact, as it creates a sense of security

[ashen cliff]

Expected. I get like at least 3 per month.

[vernal moth]

Plus those messages often get excluded in spam Filters

Well, maybe it's a legit thing then and they added it with ad in mind

[ashen cliff]

[vestal jasper]

@twin lagoon awa

[rare fiber]

Wish you luck.

[ashen cliff]

Also daily reminder if someone starts purposefully smoking outside your car just to annoy you:

[rare fiber]

People forget that so much!

[ashen cliff]

Thanks VW for not removing air recirculation at least.

I still want my cup holders back.

[rare fiber]

xD

[vernal moth]

We Germans just scream at ppl

[broken rampart]

We minnesotans just say oofda and stare at them

maybe do something really passive aggressive like put the window down and then back up

[ashen cliff]

I paid for the cabin air filter so I'm going to use it.

[twin lagoon]

uwu

[broken rampart]

go to bed

[twin lagoon]

i just woke up

[ashen cliff]

Tho the doors practically touching my doors is a very nice addition.

[broken rampart]

laugh it up clx, share the link or turn your devices off.

[twin lagoon]

[twin lagoon]

this does not look like a mercedes

[rare fiber]

Uhhhhh

[ashen cliff]

Bro. Nemačka tehnologija.

Daily reminder: Need to buy the Polestar 1 or at least a Volvo S90.

[magic river]

TIL Go intentionally iterates their hashmaps in a random order

Not just whatever randomness they end up in due to hashing, they actually pick random offsets to start iterating from

[broken rampart]

but does the random generator always return 4?

[magic river]

0-7 😛

They used to iterate through the buckets in a random order but that meant when you had one bucket you always got the same order and it was more complicated to do

So now they pick a number 0-7 and start at that offset in each bucket

[broken rampart]

Damn the xkcd reference would be perfect there

[magic river]

Like, this isn't some seeding thing, each time you iterate the map you get a different order

Or at least you did in 1.3, I can't even find the hashmap in the latest code

[twin lagoon]

polestar 1 is very hot

saw one driving around, looks dope irl

[ashen cliff]

Buy me one.

[twin lagoon]

actually no it was the polestar 2

both are nice

[ashen cliff]

I need the Polestar 1 since it's a hybrid.

[vernal moth]

TIL that me sunsneezing is caused by a flipped gene

https://youtu.be/e69XZJ9DEj0

Which is interesting cause I never seen my parents do it, nor my sister

[ashen cliff]

Your mother should know why. /s

[broken rampart]

Maybe it’s a mutant gene

[golden gust]

TIL: Mini is a mutant

[vernal moth]

I got a bunch of genes from my mom tho, my ears and the being a leftie thing

And my legs, lol

From my dad I got the beard, the baldness, the intelligence, the drinking resistance and my 3rd leg

I really can't complain about my genes too much in general 😂

[broken rampart]

Mini with the milf legs and the tripod 😳

[golden gust]

Hey, when you get older it turns into a kick stand

[ashen cliff]

Or a bell.

[cedar spade]

😔

[viral hornet]

literally put your window down and just go AH

[woven otter]

Interesting

[solid sapphire]

where has zzz gone?

in #delicious-tacos btw

[ashen cliff]

Don't worry bro. He left as soon as I put the hentai music on.

[wispy blade]

xd

[solid sapphire]

lol

[wispy blade]

people being dumb in #paper-help is honestly something that makes my day better

[magic river]

The failure mode of clever is “asshole.”

New excuse: I'm trying to be clever and doing a bad job of it

[olive garden]

those cars don't look balkan, where the opel astras at?

[vernal moth]

I think am going to Croatia on summer vacation this year, does that count as Balkan?

[potent fossil]

I wanna go to Philippines this summer but borders still shuttered up tight. begins emitting sadness noises

[vernal moth]

I was about to say why would somebody wanna go there until I remembered

Feels bad man

Even for vaccinated?

[ashen cliff]

Depends.

[merry talon]

oh cool stackoverflow got acquired by the ccp too

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor @waxen panther

[potent fossil]

yup

[vernal moth]

That sucks

[mental meadow]

let's hope it gets changed soon 😦

[vernal moth]

Well, hopefully the US will start exporting the vaccine

Cause EU being the only ones ain't cutting it globally

It's called adoptium now

[twin lagoon]

still called adoptopenjdk

they want to move to adoptium but i haven't seen shit since the announcement lmao

[ashen cliff]

Bruh.

Eclipse Bro.

Why?

[twin lagoon]

22nd March 2021 No binaries currently available as the project is in the process of transitioning from AdoptOpenJDK

[ashen cliff]

Time to go to ZULU(L) JDK.

[twin lagoon]

no they want to rebrand to adoptium

As part of the move to the Eclipse Foundation, we decided to rebrand and change the name from AdoptOpenJDK to Adoptium:

[ashen cliff]

Can they not? https://posili.me/i/2021-06-03_13-58-24.png

Like bro.

[mossy vessel]

Let's buy a fake vaccination card

[dense pine]

Just noticed this ping, sorry! Yes, am on Google cloud

[granite axle]

where's the best place to find zach?

[dense pine]

I have 1 IP per VM. Is there an advantage to 2? The only I could think of would be security related

[granite axle]

need to speak with them regarding docker image hosting for dis4irc

[twin lagoon]

@upper flicker dumb

[ashen cliff]

Management.

[upper flicker]

no u r

[granite axle]

do you have dms enabled?

[twin lagoon]

i am being harassed by paper's lawyer

please help

[cunning raft]

please do not defame our lawyer

there will be consequences

[potent fossil]

"i need to speak with zach immediately i found his discord bot and need immediate discussions regarding hosting it in docker" is all i took from that tbh

[granite axle]

sorry that wasnt quite what i was going for

[limber knot]

why do you have interest in it even

[twin lagoon]

how's kubernetes @potent fossil

[granite axle]

its really not urgent, i've just put a docker file together and was considering hosting it on docker hub

thought i'd ask first

[vernal moth]

Best path would be opening a PR with the docker file and having discussion there

[granite axle]

fair

[late atlas]

I apologise if there is a topic for this already but i just joined. Does anyone know how long it will take paper to update so we can have servers on 1,17 after release please?

[potent fossil]

1.17 is not even released by Mojang yet.

[golden gust]

.eta

[late atlas]

yeah its out on tuesday

[limber knot]

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

[late atlas]

confirmed

[potent fossil]

June 8th it gets released by Mojang, then we need to wait for Spigot. We don't know. See ^

[wraith trail]

you can read #announcements and see release dates for other things

[late atlas]

ahhh spigot of course. thank you.

[wraith trail]

but that'd only give you a general idea of the past

[potent fossil]

As soon as Spigot is out, expect Paper to take a few days at least. Just be patient, it'll get released

[cunning raft]

mini get to writing #❗-1-17

[golden gust]

We should pull a spigot and go on strike

[late atlas]

thank you. its just so i can start making plans for our own server so was worth an ask.

HAHAHA

[cunning raft]

every time someone asks for eta, lock general channel and go on 3 hour monologue

aaa sorry for ping

[limber knot]

A strike?

Can I also participate in it?

[golden gust]

typical jroy

[cunning raft]

sez u

[vernal moth]

I haven't been on my PC in ages :/

[cunning raft]

its fine im messing with u :p

[mental meadow]

Mini smh

[vernal moth]

Get to writing it yourself ^^

I already did the draft

[mental meadow]

your responsibility

[potent fossil]

cant believe mini doesnt live at his pc....fuckin lazy

[potent fossil]

hooka again

[cunning raft]

oh if you mean the google doc i did reformat your draft

[mental meadow]

I'll do it send me the link

[vernal moth]

It's pinned

In idk which channel I have too many

[golden gust]

You translated it?

[mental meadow]

I get to my duty as official community manager

[vernal moth]

Finally!

😂

[mental meadow]

where is my promotion smh

[cunning raft]

4-16 business weeks

[vernal moth]

You got promoted to community manger, smh

Also smh leaks

[mental meadow]

what when

[vernal moth]

Nothing ^^

[cunning raft]

Mini "Leaks" Digger

[mental meadow]

MeanieDigger

[half escarp]

hmm worth??

[potent fossil]

Uwuwa for lead status quo disruptor

yea its worth it but its free for students anyway

id take it tho

[vernal moth]

It's not free for commercial usage tho

[potent fossil]

dont tell JB what I use my IJ for 😎

[vernal moth]

And yes, I couldn't live without ultimate

Well, I see it more as a, hey, you are an awesome company, I wanna support you and not break your licence

[potent fossil]

lol yea ofc i support them, but while its free for me as a student ima use it

definitely will buy it though when they no longer gib me

[vernal moth]

I asked jetbrains to cancel my student licence

So that I could get the student discount early

Lmao

[tribal valve]

Algum brasileiro ae?

[potent fossil]

cancel student license for student discount?

[vernal moth]

But I guess it's also different for me since I use IJ at work

[potent fossil]

No, ingles

[vernal moth]

Yeah, student licence holders get 25% off of ultimate after they aren't students anymore

[potent fossil]

ah ok

[twin lagoon]

[potent fossil]

i mean, i used my student license IJ at work my morals aint that strong

[twin lagoon]

i would never

[vernal moth]

It would open up my employer to a liability

We get audited

[potent fossil]

i mean my employer would've bought it for me if i asked, but i just used mine

employer never knew i installed it

i had admin pass

:D

ok "never knew" might be pushing it

[vernal moth]

I have admin pass too

[potent fossil]

they probably knew but never confronted me

[vernal moth]

And nowadays employer buys licence too

But didn't at the time

[potent fossil]

I mean, yea, they would've paid an enterprise lic for me if I had submitted the purchase order

but, like, paperwork and i had my jb account

nbd tho, didnt use java for much there

we used .NET and had VS Enterprise licenses

[vernal moth]

I have an all products licence

[mental meadow]

lol

[vernal moth]

Rider > VS

[mental meadow]

I was supposed to receive a package yesterday but was still in bed

[potent fossil]

I tried to use Rider but that I got shot down on

They told me it was VS or I wasn't needed anymore

[vernal moth]

Kek

[mental meadow]

For some reason it came with DHL instead of the postal service, which is weird because DHL does not deliver to private customers in austria

And now it was delivered today, on a national holiday

[vernal moth]

If my employer would force tools on me, I would go on my own

[potent fossil]

they deliver to private customers on national holiday in austria if those customers are uwuwa

[mental meadow]

apparently

I hate it because with the postal service I signed a form that they can leave stuff at the front door, but of course not with DHL because they don't have that for private customers in austria because that does not exist

[golden gust]

Could be worse

our postal service...

am telling you, children knock louder

[mental meadow]

Mh, apparently it got delivered with "DHL On Demand", that must be new

Our doorbell is so loud that you get a heart attack

But I was still in bed and ignored it

But at least he left a note thingy at the door so I could choose online to have it delivered & put at my front door

iFixit package 😮

[worn ember]

imagine fixing stuff and not just throwing the whole thing away smh

[twin lagoon]

dhl on demand has been a thing for some time

[potent fossil]

then there are the couriers here where you tell them "plz do not knock" and then they ignore you and grab the metal knocker and slam it into the door one time and then run away to their truck

[calm bay]

Hey there 🙂
Given that PaperMC can't be ready for 1.17 at the day of MC 1.17 release:
Is it possible to 'downgrade' from PaperMC to regular MC on release date and install PaperMC again once it's ready for 1.17?
If so, how? I know that Paper (or Spigot) renamed some files but I can't recall which ones.

[worn crest]

isnt dhl not only germany 🤔

[golden gust]

You will lose some data which may impact performance

[calm bay]

What kind of data? And will it be rebuilt once I add PaperMC again?

[golden gust]

things like mob spawn causes which are used for tracking mob spawns, etc

the data will repopulate over time but it's generally not recommended to go upstream

[wraith trail]

if you do wanna do that though, you just have to copy the DIM-# folders from each world folder into the main world folder

[twin lagoon]

or just you know

have patience and wait a week

[ashen cliff]

Via.

[calm bay]

Thanks for the info folks, appreciate it 🙇

Nah, no need to wait just for performance improvements 🙂
And the only plugin we use is CoreProtect.

We'll try it with vanilla 1.17 then for that one week (🤞) and worst-case we can still revert to the pre-1.17 backup once PaperMC is updated. Server ain't large anyway, so performance might be fine.

[mental meadow]

no DHL is pretty international

[cunning raft]

i mean you could just use spigot rather than vanilla

[solid sapphire]

What happened to thisconvo zzz?

[cunning raft]

spigot will probably have a build on day 1

[golden gust]

what?

[solid sapphire]

in #delicious-tacos

that pan...
and nothing else

[calm bay]

Any benefit over vanilla if you don't need any plugins?
PaperMC is focused on performance which is the primary reason we use it.

[potent fossil]

paper is based on spigot, so its less of a journey upstream

[cunning raft]

well no would just be plugin support

[golden gust]

It's a joke, am not really sure how to explain it, if you don't know, maybe you're too young :L

[cunning raft]

spigot doesn't really do performance

[calm bay]

I guess that would spare us from moving DIM folders around?

[potent fossil]

it claims to

[potent fossil]

yes

[solid sapphire]

Noted.

[potent fossil]

and would let you keep coreprotect

win win until paper is out

[calm bay]

True. I hope CP is compatible with 1.17 though 👀

It's already quite bug-loaded in 1.16

[potent fossil]

we'll see what ends up changing in the api

no way to say

no.

.eta

[wraith trail]

check out prism if you're looking for alternatives

[limber knot]

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

[calm bay]

Mojang doesn't release new APIs with prereleases I guess?

[twin lagoon]

spigot doesn't

[golden gust]

mojang doesn't release any API

[potent fossil]

I mean, they do but we dont have them because Spigot doesnt release prereleases

:D

and by 'they do' i mean the vanilla code is out, but spigot doesnt release patched preleases

[golden gust]

and spigot generally doesn't drop stuff until late on in the process and they generally only care to drop early releases when something changes

I mean, am glad mojang doesn't drop API

[calm bay]

Why?

[golden gust]

People thing sponge and forge are hellish to work with, I can only imagine the horrors of mojang

Nobody knows

[potent fossil]

We don't know, and even if we did know we wouldn't tell you

[golden gust]

We're not here to piss in the wind for estimates

[mental meadow]

why cat

smh

well

[potent fossil]

Because asking for ETAs are annoying, it'll be out when it's out

[mental meadow]

.eta

[limber knot]

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

[quasi valley]

it'll take at least 1

[golden gust]

Because people do dumb shit

[calm bay]

What's the ETA on providing an ETA? 😛

[potent fossil]

Instant.

[golden gust]

Like, acting as if ETAs are a promised release time

[limber knot]

The ETA is within the current eternity

Here, I said it

[mental meadow]

ETA is anything between 1 day and 2 years

[twin lagoon]

you're not getting an ETA it's as simple as that

stop trying to get an ETA

[mental meadow]

I take bets

[golden gust]

we need to re-apply all the patches over spigot

[quasi valley]

nothing yet

[potent fossil]

The ETA is temporally located at a position that is somewhere between now and the inevitable heat death of our universe.

[mental meadow]

There will be a detailed explanation on the update process soon ™️

[ashen cliff]

You could always just look it up and find the 1.16 stream archive.

[calm bay]

Does PaperMC have some form of automated testing to check if anything breaks after re-applying patches?

[golden gust]

no

most of the breakage is in applying the patches

[limber knot]

so, paper is not tested?

Shit, and I thought I could trust paper

[calm bay]

Interesting. So eventual side-effects surface over time and are then fixed.

[mental meadow]

There are no automatic tests for everything

[golden gust]

Mojang apparently stopped stripping their testing framework, which is nice

But, I mean, no framework for automated testing and RNG makes stuff like that a bitch to test some things

[cunning raft]

ik mini was poking around with that

[mental meadow]

hence why we generally don't recommend using the first version we release in production

[calm bay]

Aren't all RNGs seeded?

[limber knot]

sure, but some may require user input

[golden gust]

Yes, but you don't know the many logic paths in play

[potent fossil]

I mean there are tests in the actual build

[limber knot]

For example there is a bug where entities randomly get removed that still is not fixed for what I know

[calm bay]

I see. Unit testing partially-closed software without proper interface must be quite a challenge 😮

[potent fossil]

Like JUnit tests or whatever they are. Well over a thousand of them

[golden gust]

that's one of the oldest bugs in MC 😦

I think it's still the chunk boundry BS

[calm bay]

What exactly do they test?

[potent fossil]

oh god i wouldn't be able to tell you

i can look in the code hold on

[golden gust]

the unit tests are mostly about data consistency and to a degree are somewhat useless

[calm bay]

no worries, I'll check the source myself then 🙂

[golden gust]

The tests just don't have the coverage and bar having server run tests which, god damn tryna deal with that, there is no real means to test stuff

[potent fossil]

for the bukkit bits: https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Cool-Gossamerwingedbutterfly-5d.png

[golden gust]

Down the line I do wanna look at getting a test server setup, but, infra and well, potential horrors around moderation and nap

[amber karma]

should i report creative issues even if they're in normal Minecraft & paper

[potent fossil]

here's the GameModeTest https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Truthful-Indiancow-d5.png
but yea you can patch it up and head into the code as well 👍

[calm bay]

At least it sounds good 😄 Doesn't say much about actual testing though.

[golden gust]

sorta depends, generally we don't care as creative mode puts all trust on the client for a lot of stuff

[potent fossil]

that test actually looks useless

good one to pick

[calm bay]

Indeed 😄
It's basically looking for an incorrect enum mapping I guess.

[golden gust]

most of the "interesting" tests are in the server itself

[potent fossil]

Yea

that's way too big to screenshot

i would go patch it and take a look

Paper-Server/src/test/java/org/craftbukkit

[calm bay]

I'd love to peek into Mojang's code to see how much of a mess it is (or isn't) 👀

[potent fossil]

it's highly obfuscated, but there are some mappings

its not a joy to read

[calm bay]

No I mean the actual code

What their devs work with

[potent fossil]

ah yea, if we could see it pre-obfs that'd be cool

[calm bay]

Including testing etc.

[mental meadow]

I read "its not a jroy to read"

[potent fossil]

[amber karma]

its not game breaking but if sb drops items fast out of the inventory in creative around the half despawn 😆

[potent fossil]

thats been happening for years hasn't it

just nobody wants to touch creative with a 10 foot pole

[topaz mortar]

The non detailed version: Mini gets drunk.

[worn ember]

cat when he gets a bag of catnip https://youtu.be/v9BGjCtPVqM

[potent fossil]

i gave my cat some catnip the other day and lmao

lets just say she definitely enjoyed it

[golden gust]

god damned druggie cat

[wispy blade]

S3RL goated

[worn ember]

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO-NaEj2dQ0 | The anthem of my people [nsfw]

[amber karma]

that kinda annoys me

[worn ember]

not even surprised

[potent fossil]

creative is kind of a hellhole

theres also another fun bug about being in creative that fucks up in the API

or in the server, not sure where

[golden gust]

inventory handling is already ass

and then creative mode comes along

because woo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiBI0yrtHUo | Meanwhile at simples

[potent fossil]

i need a keybind for erasing the disk just like he did

[wispy blade]

ahk

[ashen cliff]

Should be simple to do. Just get a Samsung SSD and ask it to reroll the hardware encryption.

[warm anchor]

Oh nice

[quasi valley]

that's a lot of rainbow

[green tartan]

wish i have nitro 😦

[warm anchor]

This two wasn’t added though I think it shows face more coz paper chan is cuteee

[void void]

[green tartan]

[quasi valley]

oh yeah I like both better lol

@cosmic raft fix it!!

[warm anchor]

It’s a new one

There. It’s not added here yet

New one yeah. Paper chan took off her little airplane hairpin

[worn ember]

wtf no cat ears

booo

your fap collection?

[vernal moth]

emptying recycle bin on windows, lmao

https://i.imgur.com/vZzpLdI.png

[potent fossil]

jesus mini

[vernal moth]

nah

those are in downlaods

https://i.imgur.com/PhNM0GX.png

[golden gust]

I used to use teracopy for that type stuff years ago

[vernal moth]

I bet I just never emptied it on this windows install

[golden gust]

but, then again, I was also on HDDs most of the time with windows

and, yea, headache with trash bins is that you forget to clean up

[potent fossil]

i dont use recycle bin, one of my 1st steps on every win install is to turn it off and hide the icon

[golden gust]

and then you do stuff like delete a few git folders or something and jesus foook

[warm anchor]

@thin apex

[vernal moth]

download folder be like

https://i.imgur.com/9clhmup.png

[golden gust]

would head pat / 10

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/HJNEffx.png

yey finally have enough space on my game drive for anno updates now 😄

[vernal moth]

whats an HDD?

https://i.imgur.com/u0YczOP.png

full ssd power

some of these are really old

well, some of these components are really old

I only update what is needed

I got an 970 evo, 960 evo, 750 evo annd 850 evo

all with 10-30tb written

oh so not even nvme

smh

https://i.imgur.com/SFEwnLh.png

pfff

I have like zero air flow

yeah, watercooled

[golden gust]

they used deionised water, rite?

[vernal moth]

well, som ppl be dum

[golden gust]

I mean, if you use deionised water as you're supposed to, it doesn't conduct electricity

[mental meadow]

Why won't you allow your water to unionise. Thats not a far way to treat workers

[vernal moth]

this was my old setup

[potent fossil]

free heater in winter

'free'

[vernal moth]

the fans actually helped me staying cool

lol

[golden gust]

clearly not stressing it hard enough

[vernal moth]

back then I didn't had my ryzen yet

[potent fossil]

companies sell merch

not new

[vernal moth]

thi sis my current one

I have tons of fans

but don't use em

5950x is so overkill, lol

mine is already overkill

[static badge]

[untold copper]

wowowowow epic

[vernal moth]

brought 3 new DLC for anno, lets see wtf they do

4 apperently

ah no, one was last season but I just didn't play it yet

[olive garden]

I have the same thing

calculator I mean

[waxen panther]

[worn crest]

it have it too 😄

[unreal pike]

Hi, if the required upkeep of a server is $300/mo and I get $500 from it, but then decide to put the $200 back in the server to grow it, do I
Pay tax on the full $500
Pay tax on the extra $200
Pay $0 since net gain is $0
from a legal standpoint?

[vernal moth]

you really shouldn't ask this here

this highly depends on how you did setup your business and the country

[unreal pike]

i tried speaking to an expert if it counts towards my personal income but i wanted to check if anyone is actually paying tax on it

[vernal moth]

CTC and RTC is often taxed differently and stuff

[unreal pike]

It's not a registered business thats the confusing part

[vernal moth]

that would be the first step then, lol

else you can't sell anything most likely

[unreal pike]

ive been doing it for years without paying tax but time as come to play it safe

[viral hornet]

hi zzzCat

you're butt metal

& goodnight

[potent fossil]

:O

[potent fossil]

ask the tax service in your country

im not kidding, literally ask them

[unreal pike]

ok

[olive garden]

which country?

[meager tusk]

What's taxes

You mean the guys I collect money from?

Why are you paying those guys?

[unreal pike]

usa california

alot of ppl where i live dont report income in cash for odd jobs

im sure its like that everywhere, but i dont wanna get suspended for something stupid if paypal decides to check me

[olive marlin]

Depends on your law, there might be some amount you don't need to declare.

But again, need to check your local and country law.

[unreal pike]

yeah im gonna try checking with them

[potent fossil]

ok for 1 dont actually admit to not paying taxes on the internet lol

for 2, call the irs and ask them your question.

[olive garden]

paypal shares your data and it won't be paypal who gets you into trouble

[potent fossil]

the irs has call centers for this exact thing

you call them, you ask your tax question, you hang up

you do not however ask PaperMC

[unreal pike]

i gotcha

[meager tusk]

Oh and when you ask the question

When you get the answer

don't go "Oops"

That's a bad idea

[unreal pike]

lol

[potent fossil]

lol

[viral hornet]

simple I don't like your new name

It reminds me of someone saying "think" as "fink"

[potent fossil]

maybe i say think as fink, have you ever thought about that?????????

[viral hornet]

hope not

😔 ✋

[vestal jasper]

🥺

[viral hornet]

🥺

@twin lagoon

[golden gust]

was wondering when the gimp would come

[viral hornet]

butt metal

[potent fossil]

gimple is my name now because he doesn't like f words. But for all intents and purposes with regard to my name strategy g = f for june AND july 😠

[viral hornet]

don't bring weird logic into this man

just make it zimple

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfB7vF7nCdA

[vestal jasper]

thinking??? brain ??

[wispy blade]

gf @potent fossil ?????

[potent fossil]

i was gonna do a new letter for each month, f was the sixth letter for the sixth month camm :(((

[viral hornet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mtv-news-sam-rockwell-7aiUV1ZHCHba

simple rn

[quasi valley]

I agree, we should get rid of butt metal

[potent fossil]

what

[viral hornet]

Cat is a butt metal

[wispy blade]

your face is a butt metal

[quasi valley]

well you know what to do then

[mental meadow]

NO IT'S NOT JULY YET

[waxen panther]

a

[wispy blade]

b

[viral hornet]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

[left swift]

Good doggo

[potent fossil]

WQHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAT TO BROC

.kill Camm

[limber knot]

beheads Camm with a chainsaw and uses their head to play soccer.

[golden gust]

I don't like camm

[potent fossil]

It was the only way

[golden gust]

But, I have to agree with him here

[potent fossil]

I won't bother killing you for that because, God knows, I've tried already. Many times.

[viral hornet]

excuse you

[viral hornet]

excuse you

[potent fossil]

paperchan does as I command

[viral hornet]

But y did u behead me

what did I do

😔

[left swift]

.kill fimple

[limber knot]

snacks on fimple's dismembered body.

[potent fossil]

You ate brocc

[viral hornet]

I love eating brocc

😳

[wispy blade]

https://twitter.com/percentage05/status/1397551285021249544?s=20

PER (@percentage05)

コッス！プレ悟空！❹

Retweets

282

Likes

1809

Twitter · May 26, 2021, 1:52 PM

[viral hornet]

@electronicboy#8869 love me 😔

[golden gust]

ew

[waxen panther]

😳

[viral hornet]

don't be jealous my ancestors were sent to Australia and your lame ass ancestors weren't criminals cat

xx

[potent fossil]

huh, lol, nice one Uber https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Hateful-Africanparadiseflycatcher-00.png

im here 4 food tho not a vaccine

[viral hornet]

oo thats neat

[left swift]

Get food on the way

[potent fossil]

im already vaxxed

imma just see what ubereats will charge me to get my fatass food

[warm anchor]

lmao how are they gonig to verify it (US right? HIPPA?) you may as well get to pharmacy and walk out to get food?

[potent fossil]

I have no idea, it's probably just a $25 off voucher

[warm anchor]

find out for us simple!!!

get your 3rd shot

[left swift]

Like wearing 2 condoms

Extra protection

[viral hornet]

uhhhhhhh

[left swift]

What bro

[wind geyser]

have there been any bans today?

[unkempt drift]

There’s about to be 😈

[untold copper]

👀

[warm anchor]

Dog is next? I will excise my power in PaperMC here

[vestal jasper]

ah yes your power to test experimental builds

[cedar spade]

Oof, didn't realise I had broken so many rules 😔

[potent fossil]

made it out alive https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Lightpink-Tanager-53.png

fuck physics if i do say so myself

[warm anchor]

WOW GIMPLE GRADE A STUDENT

[potent fossil]

sometimes

i heard a lot of shit about multivariate

was the easiest fucking calc class i've ever taken

so idk what drugs yall are on

(im on marijuana)

[warm anchor]

[potent fossil]

soon, the weed man is on the way

https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Parched-Cur-83.png

its marijuana but with capitalism

[golden gust]

god damned fucking druggies

[warm anchor]

LOL

[potent fossil]

Are you jealous kitty https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Favorite-Asianelephant-05.png

Poor cat still has to have a plug

[warm anchor]

Damn my weed guy cant even take coupon code wtf!

[potent fossil]

oh yeah i get store reward points too

i swear to god its like starbucks but weed

[golden gust]

never used resin, not really big over here but seems to be popular over there

[potent fossil]

Tastes nice

Distillate is much stronger though

Oh yeah this place also has free delivery and last-mile live delivery car tracking

It's really a huge shift from like, 5 years ago

[vestal jasper]

mfw $26

[meager tusk]

Ok

[potent fossil]

for a gram

that's actually a flex lol

used to be $40-60+

[vestal jasper]

yeah the dispo near me is like $40/g, there's one farther away that sells them for $30 on saturdays

[potent fossil]

yeah this dispensary is very lit

kinda ridiculous

aint complaining though

[rare herald]

CoreProtect is generally forward-compatible, as there’s no NMS code

People always pester me to update it right away for the latest MC release, but it generally isn’t even necessary

[calm bay]

That's good to know, thank you 🙏

[ripe sphinx]

owo a wild intelli

open source when

[viral hornet]

decompile or

[round grove]

Is this a good prank?

[vernal moth]

thats a prank?

[round grove]

yeah,?

[viral hornet]

What's the prank

[round grove]

THE pp

[quasi valley]

ex de moment

[vernal moth]

oh didn't knew you were 12

[round grove]

xdXdODAAf unny prank

[short yarrow]

So if you were to write a custom minecraft client in language other than java. Would you have to write the entire game from scratch?

[round grove]

Yeah?

[vernal moth]

no you wouldnt

just the client obviously

[round grove]

Well yeah, if you would play only multiplayer

[vernal moth]

so network stack, rendering and a bit of prediction logic

[quasi valley]

a bit of

[vernal moth]

I actually wrote a custom minecraft client in c#/godot

https://i.imgur.com/PvfjA26.jpg

its uuhm

[broken rampart]

You actually used godots c#? I thought it was terrible

[vernal moth]

wonderful

[short yarrow]

I'm thinking there's no way you'd have to write the game from scratch because that would take forever. But what makes up a client? Don't need you game logic?

[vernal moth]

it got good in 3.1/3.2 paul

its def a fun project, I can recommend it

[broken rampart]

I might have to try it, I hated their half baked python

Mostly because I hate python

[vernal moth]

I mean

I don't know C#

but I got something that I quite like

[broken rampart]

That’s a pretty good endorsement then lol

I’ll have to try it

[vernal moth]

my network stack is horrible

godot 4.0 is entering alpha soon (tm), thats when ill get back to godot

https://github.com/MiniDigger/Godotcraft/blob/master/scripts/network/protocol/MinecraftClient.cs

kek I didn't implement compression

[left swift]

Who needs it ya know

All my homies hate compression

[quasi valley]

and you used tabs

[vernal moth]

I blame riders default settings

[shut spear]

Can someone help me allocating an IP?

[short yarrow]

So if you were to make a full fledge minecraft client, how would you have single player if you don't have any game logic

[olive marlin]

Just like regular client works - start an integrated server.

[short yarrow]

Ahh

That's how it works? I thought the client contained all the logic for single player (how I thought games with single player works)

[vernal moth]

No, it's the same code as the server

Duplicating that logic would be horrible

It has been this way for a really really long time

[short yarrow]

That's pretty cool

Is an integrated server different than how you would run a regular minecraftserver on your machine? Like I think you can be on your single player world and have the a minecraft server running at the same time

[wispy blade]

the client just runs a server inside the game

which is also why you can open to lan :p

[slow heath]

thats a prank

[left swift]

A good prank is closing ur server randomly then deleting the discord and threads advertising it and never responding to anyone about why the server is down

[waxen panther]

yes

[left swift]

Brocc does that every Saturday

[waxen panther]

and sunday

[left swift]

Heartless doing this on gods day brocc

[worn ember]

Huh who's brocc?

[left swift]

Oh you didn't hear

The cotc?

[wispy blade]

cuck of the cucks?

[left swift]

U dont know about the cotc outbreak??

No way

Weird thing to troll about it's pretty serious right now

[woven otter]

The what

[wispy blade]

the cing of the cill

[quasi valley]

oh noes, a snapshot this late

[short yarrow]

Yeah that's what I thought. When you start a server you have to have some sort of port no? Couldn't there technically be a port conflict where the port is in use?

[wispy blade]

idk how it works

it assigns a random port iirc

[quasi valley]

the integrated server is not a ""server""

[vernal moth]

By default the integrated server doesn't bind to a port

Until you press open to lan

Then it's binding to a port

And starting netty and crap I would assume

[left swift]

Corn on the cob

[short yarrow]

Hmmm so I'm confused how would the client and the integrated server talk? I found some of the integrated server code on github and it looks like there's no networking involved unless you open to lan

[vernal moth]

Because it's the same process you can just skip networking

[quasi valley]

instead of sending off a packet you just... directly use it

[short yarrow]

Okay that's what I was thinking. I should probably look at the actual client to see what's happening

[magic river]

TIL Google rearranges the order of the "tabs" in search results depending on what ones it thinks are most relevant

[formal turret]

fuck i clicked shopping when i wanted google to show me images

[magic river]

If it thinks you're looking for news that one is next to All, if it thinks you're looking for a place it puts Maps next to All, etc

Yeah, fuck that

[unreal trout]

I set off 3000 tnt 5 minutes ago. It's still exploding...

[magic river]

I usually just go to maps, images, news, etc directly if I want those but I didn't this time and yikes

[royal kernel]

Waw, there was quite alot of drama in the yatopia discord

[wispy blade]

wuz going on

[royal kernel]

Anti lgbtq was happening there

[olive marlin]

Yatopia discord drama should stay in Yatopia discord.

[unkempt drift]

am dev

[royal kernel]

Ya, hopefully that never happens again

[wispy blade]

KEK friggin W

[minor badge]

hello dev

[olive marlin]

Oh, yeah. Not the best things were happening, but they are getting better at handling it from what I know.

[minor badge]

@olive marlin

[olive marlin]

[waxen panther]

am broccolai

[olive marlin]

@waxen panther do you do private trolling events?

[waxen panther]

only on leap years

[olive marlin]

[left swift]

supreme dev

[dusky cedar]

can i have a server with mods and plugins does that work?

[vernal moth]

No

[royal kernel]

There is magma and sponge but some mods and plugins dont work

[vernal moth]

Bukkit is fundamentally incompatible with mods

[dusky cedar]

ok thx anyways

and can i install sponge on a forge server?

[vernal moth]

Yes

Ask them about it tho

[left swift]

Mini is a beer sponge

[waxen panther]

TRUE

[left swift]

BRO

FACT

[woven otter]

What the fuck is that

[potent fossil]

Duck r u srs rn

[upbeat falcon]

Boiled Corn on the Cob Recipe - NatashasKitchen.com

https://natashaskitchen.com/15-minute-corn-on-the-cob/
Rating, , ,4.8, ,, ,(6), , , 20 min, , 87 cal,May 18, 2020, Boiled corn on the cob is the perfect summer side dish.

Requested by gimple! (he/him) - show me a corn on the cob - result 5 of 10

[potent fossil]

wtf.

you idiot

[upbeat falcon]

LIFE - Hosted by Google

http://images.google.com/hosted/life/eb2f498ef8c1491f.html
A picture showing the steps to making a corn cob pipe. Location: Washington, MO, US. Date taken: April 1945. Photographer: Wallace Kirkland. Size: 1280 x 783

Requested by gimple! (he/him) - corn on the cob site:images.google.com - result 8 of 10

[potent fossil]

okay sulu what the fuck

[left swift]

Pipes

[potent fossil]

https://www.thegunnysack.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Boiled-Corn-On-The-Cob-Recipe-735x1103.jpg

[wraith trail]

whats the issue?

oh it does not do images, yeah

[potent fossil]

i wanted images

[left swift]

Pencil doesnt know what the cotc epidemic is

[potent fossil]

wait excuse me what

[left swift]

U dont know either simple???

About cotc??

[potent fossil]

[left swift]

Corn on the cob??!!

[potent fossil]

yea dis stuff yom yom

[left swift]

But not cotc

[potent fossil]

correct

[left swift]

Millions are affected by cotc each year

[mossy vessel]

We got yellow pumpkins

[potent fossil]

send me one on dry ice

[left swift]

Mini yellow pumpkins

They taste hot

[potent fossil]

mana sometimes i worry about you

[left swift]

[quasi valley]

:pokiJam:

[viral hornet]

:kennyjam:

[potent fossil]

i fucking love sponsorblock on youtube so much

i never have to watch those anymore, and it makes for hilariously abrupt video endings as it cuts off all their dumbass segues

[left swift]

I took that 8values test and got facism

I wonder if it's possible to get 100% in each

[cunning raft]

👉 #politics

[waxen panther]

jroys favourite channel

[cunning raft]

do you want a new nickname

[waxen panther]

i could go for one

[left swift]

Do you mean favorite

[waxen panther]

sorry i speak the queens english 😎

[left swift]

Ok oskar

[twin lagoon]

Ok oskar

[waxen panther]

do not ever call me oskar again

[left swift]

Ok oskar

[waxen panther]

i got the opposite on all the sliders to you mana

[left swift]

Lol

Any 100%s

[waxen panther]

i stopped reading the questions half way through tho

closest was a 74%

[left swift]

Smh

[quasi valley]

fascism speedrun any%?

[ashen cliff]

100%.

[quasi valley]

that’s a long speedrun

[ashen cliff]

You can't avoid it's siren call forever.

Sound kinda like this: Твоё желание скоро исполняется. Иди ко мне.
And keeps repeating forever.

Thanks HTC: https://posili.me/i/2021-06-03_22-37-10.png

[left swift]

Facism is just misunderstood /s

[ashen cliff]

Daily reminder: MCBans still exists.

And those first page mass bans look epic.

[left swift]

It was nice theory but give that much power to kids is bad idea

Wait krusic it cant be it says fair on the website

[ashen cliff]

Well. The website is fair.

The people submitting bans aren't.

[twin lagoon]

@ashen cliff BRO!

[ashen cliff]

BRO!

[twin lagoon]

@meager tusk opensource KGBSpigot when

[ashen cliff]

BRO!

[viral hornet]

@meager tusk 🥺

[meager tusk]

BRO!