Then I wouldn't use it. Airplane has community support as well, but, since they also have paid, there's a "You're not paying" sort of thing going on
#general
brave radish
cunning raft
purpur re-added an airplane patch that was unsafe
after airplane dropped it
so uhh
brave radish
It was mostly safe 😆
warm anchor
Paper is still your safest bet in terms of stability
cunning raft
how do you know
void void
If I wanna make anarchy server, I need a jar that can handle 200 players tho
cunning raft
do you know ANYTHING AT ALL about that patch
brave radish
Assuming you mean the multithreaded tracker?
cunning raft
or are you just saying that
void void
I know I wont reach it but it must handle it in any case
warm anchor
If I wanna make anarchy server, I need a jar that can handle 200 players tho
your first mistake is wanting to make anarchy server
cunning raft
anytime you see multithreaded on an MC patch it's probably not safe and/or doesn't support plugins
warm anchor
anything after that is just the result of your first mistake 
void void
It's a experiment. Here in this country isn't any anarchy server yet.
I want to be first
I have pretty beefy server
floral mesa
anarchy isnt great, it brings in a lot of players willing to exploit the ever living hell out of it.
visual egret
is hardfork gonna be multithread
warm anchor
so in a community where people make every attempt to break the server and you opt to wanting to use the lesser stable version? I still think paper will be your best bet.
void void
So can Paper or Tuinity handle anarchy environment with a lot of players?
golden gust
I mean, for multithread you'd be better off just rewriting the damned server
golden gust
You're gonna break the API anyways doing that, so, you might as well, otherwise you fall into many horrors around plugin expectations which you can't vouche for anymore, e.g. that teleportation is gonna actually move the player right now
floral mesa
there is only so much patches and GC optimizations you can go through, im kind of on the fence of starting to look into sharding servers to split the workload up across multiple regions.
warm anchor
everyone wants to be 2b2t clone. You know by shooting yourself in the feet trying to put 500 players in one server.
void void
Btw is Ryzen 9 5900X good for anarchy server?
floral mesa
yes, but for a single server its a waste of resources
tawdry girder
people sure love using a patch that was disabled by default to defame a fork
void void
Well it's gonna be anarchy, not regular server for minigames
left swift
I have pretty beefy server
I have beefy server it got e3-1245v2 and 16gb ddr3 😎
floral mesa
go for a 5600X if its a single server
void void
Will it handle 200 players?
left swift
Sometimes
ashen cliff
No
.
warm anchor
I have beefy server it got e3-1245v2 and 16gb ddr3 😎
I have 128 GB RAM so I get to have 4 times more players than you! 😎
floral mesa
1.16? no, 1.12? no, 1.8? maybe
golden gust
modern MC is meh for performance in the scheme of things, we're close back to like 1.12 1.13 levels in paper, but, generally, eerr..
void void
I have 64 gigs of ram and 9 5900X with 10 terabytes of space. I know I am gonna need way more space over time.
golden gust
Nobody is gonna vouche for player count either
warm anchor
tbh if you come here asking if X is good for Y. it just shows us you havent done any homework...
floral mesa
10TB of hdd? thats going to be slow to load
golden gust
Well, nobody who knows what they're talking about generally will a server owners are the types of people who'll shove in plugins eating up 2/5ths of a tick and wonder why their server is stalling to all shit
void void
tbh if you come here asking if X is good for Y. it just shows us you havent done...
I did but people around the internet can't like agree on one thing
visual egret
yo i just found out this really cool website, https://google.com/, its amazing, try it yourself
golden gust
But, like, a lot of this stuff has already been answered in the community, and if you're planning to actually run a server I'd suggest doing your research, as 0 effort generally gets shoved out of the community
void void
So I am getting different answers everywhere
golden gust
And there is a reason people can't agree on it
void void
Someone suggested buying Xenon with like 4.9 GHz
golden gust
It's because it's subjective and 90% of the community are morons
tawdry girder
installs plugin that claims to reduce lag
server lag increases
golden gust
am tryna be nice
formal turret
just the reality of accessible modding
hearty compass
The C in zzcat and N in eternity seem to be part of a puzzle
void void
Okay I think I have all answers I need. The processor I have should be enough and Paper should keep up too.
golden gust
all it needs is U and T
left swift
More ghz more players 
warm anchor
ashen cliff
The F in Paper stands for fast. 
void void
More ghz more players <:WICKED:841712625699127316>
Technically yes, but there are more factors than just that.
warm anchor
that's right
brave radish
Technically yes, but there are more factors than just that.
they know that
vernal moth
Technically yes, but there are more factors than just that.
No not at all, lmfao
left swift
what's a factor
golden gust
ur moms a tractor
left swift
Ur my mom
golden gust
HONK, HONK
vernal moth
GHz is irrelevant when comparing across generations, models or vendors
hearty compass
Single thread performance?
vernal moth
Can only use GHz when the hardware is the same
vernal moth
Well, how do you measure that?
visual egret
minecraft server
void void
Single thread performance is important for Minecraft server but idk how to measure it.
vernal moth
Using a benchmark that cannot realistically show Minecraft performance
ashen cliff
Simple, make a MC workload that you can replicate on multiple machines.
void void
Let's just hope that the Ryzen I have has good single thread performance.
vernal moth
That site in particular is really meh because of the politics behind it
warm anchor
wait "you have" are you gonna homehost an anarchy server?
vernal moth
Like, the punished AMD for years for no reason
golden gust
those sites are k for a general gist, but, like, in general, eerrr...
void void
Tbh Ryzen is the new meta. It easily beats Intel now.
golden gust
I mean, AMD is sketchy because they often have weeeird bottlenecks
hearty compass
With mob farms
vernal moth
Tbh Ryzen is the new meta. It easily beats Intel now.
Depending on the workload
hearty compass
And chunk loading systems
golden gust
Like, I've often seen AMD chips fucking BEAST single threaded tasks
But, as soon as more than a single thread starts needing memory, oh boy does shit drop faster than mini's mums kni... nvm...
visual egret
developer beef 👀
vernal moth
But, as soon as more than a single thread starts needing memory, oh boy does shi...
That's not really an issue anymore
Just feed it fast memory and it will rize
golden gust
Well, yea, they fixed it finally
ryzen does still seem to bottleneck in weird ways, however
worn ember
ram go brrr
limpid comet
nomana, keeping the streets safe from ded's ded memes since 1992
left swift
Its honest work 
left swift
Sauce pls
spiral robin
left swift
Oh that bardy
waxen panther
😬
left swift
I like how it says on their github that they borrow code
Mr. Bardy isnt in paper anymore?
quasi valley
wtf is that pokikek emoji
waxen panther
hi jroy!
cunning raft
@waxen panther
quasi valley
hi jroy!
cunning raft
@quasi valley
waxen panther
cunning raft
@waxen panther less talking more pr reviewing
quasi valley
all of them
approval
waxen panther
is it final yet
waxen panther
loggers!
cunning raft
for 2.19 at least
I've added everything i wanted plus all the suggestions that made sense
left swift
wtf is that pokikek emoji
quasi valley
that looks like she's screaming in agony
maybe because she's being tickled to death
left swift
Girls do be laughing in agony at me oskar meyer 
visual egret
jokes on you, im making more friends with girls at school
than i am with guys
which is kinda sad
quasi valley
TRUE
visual egret
i keep on accidentally changing my keyboard layout to polish or american, and am constantly reminded that something worse then nomana can exist
quasi valley
T R U E
mint flicker
Performance wise, velocity is a lot better than waterfall, right?
visual egret
yes
quasi valley
yep, because it's not based on Bungee
visual egret
_i'm the velocity expert here, kneny 😠 _
waxen panther
are u though
visual egret
(/s)
left swift
What's worse then nomana
waxen panther
@ tux
formal turret
lotsofmana
left swift
No thats worse than nomana
visual egret
nooo tux no remove my plugin dev and translator role
mint flicker
And is your experience that most devs also support velocity when making plugins?
visual egret
not really
mint flicker
That’s unfortunate then
formal turret
unfortunate indeed!
left swift
Unfact!
left swift
Who's hangar
mint flicker
So I guess because not that many plugins are supported for velocity, not many people use it over bungee cord and forks, and in return not that many devs bother making their plugins capable with velocity
quasi valley
I do 👀
visual egret
its more of a people dont know about it
i instantly switched to velocity when i heard of it
mint flicker
Well I’ll be sure to use it when upgrading my network
quasi valley
there's a decent number of plugins that should fill your needs
left swift
Velocityguard
visual egret
catalyst is useful for essentials but if you need more customisation stuff your best bet is seperate plugins
void void
What do you guys think about Velocity?
visual egret
its epic
void void
And what about Waterfall?
visual egret
never used it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
void void
argon2 best encryption?
visual egret
is this the friend that snoopa made
tawdry girder
devs are like "I won't develop my plugin for Velocity because there aren't many servers running Velocity" which causes less servers to use velocity because there are less plugins for it which makes a negative loop
coarse lily
devs are like "I won't develop my plugin for Velocity because there aren't many ...
In a lot of cases you don't need a plugin for Velocity itself. The "bungee plugin" thing is bad architecture a lot of the time IMO.
But either way the Velocity folks will sometimes crank out a Velocity plugin if you ask.
So the plugins are growing.
minor badge
Developing for Velocity compared to Bungee is like comparing a deep breath by the coast of Norway to centre of Beijing during rush hour
worn ember
tf does that even mean
visual egret
tldr: velocity sexier than bungee
minor badge
mfw ded doesn't know how bad the pollution is there
worn ember
not my fault, not my problem
minor badge
while it is not your fault, it is certainly your problem too
visual egret
worn ember
Ok fair, but not like i can fix it
I already do my part, i dont own a car, take my bike when possible, otherwise public transport, i already buy locally most of the time and i dont do any activities that cause pollution (other than using energy)
visual egret
is discord a local business
wide chasm
You use energy?! Despicable, think of the next generation! /s
worn ember
am just a small cog in the massive machine that is planet earth
minor badge
am on local 100% green electricity net 
worn ember
only like 13% of our energy is "green"
minor badge
oof
visual egret
i have red energy is that good
minor badge
I live within walking distance of my provider's windmill farm
worn ember
i liked it more when you were banned
golden gust
my electricity is basically matched by green credits and my gas is basically offset
worn ember
ah yes paying money to make your energy green
ancient bolt
i liked it more when you were banned
Cut it out
visual egret
demon here to save the day? :pog:
ancient bolt
my electricity is basically matched by green credits and my gas is basically off...
I paid extra to make my energy 100% wind power a couple years back. Moved a couple times and haven't done that since but I should probably look to do it again
golden gust
over in the UK it's basically like "the new thing"
ancient bolt
It's bullshit that people gotta pay extra for it, but it's a small price for me to pay to help offset some of this stuff
golden gust
The thing is that grid providers are really just energy leasers, so stuff like this basically becomes the norm fast over here
ancient bolt
still, everyone doing small things is less effective than strong government regulations on corporations but I digress
minor badge
I pay less than the non-green electricity costs 
visual egret
thats cus you have like windmills every two meters in germany
ancient bolt
Here in oklahoma wind is more abundant than oil but oil gets all the big money and government handouts so guess which is cheaper
minor badge
I do not live in Germany
visual egret
oh
cunning raft
lmfao
ancient bolt
Mariell is swedish you dunce
visual egret
big brain
quasi valley
Mariell isnt swedish
minor badge
I am not Swedish either 
quasi valley
cunning raft
nordic
quasi valley
Den clapped
worn ember
same thing
ancient bolt
I guessed ¯_(ツ)_/¯
minor badge
I'm Norwegian, though live in Sweden
ancient bolt
So I was half right
minor badge
*same thing*
ok dutchie
ancient bolt
I'll take it
worn ember
visual egret
when im in germany after corona ill make sure to steal a windmil and donate it to england
ancient bolt
you know they aren't called windmills right
visual egret
yes
peak ginkgo
if you can steal a wind generator they should let you have it
worn ember
those things are massive
quasi valley
nah oskar just has 3 of these behind his house 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/KinderdijkWindmills.jpg/1024px-KinderdijkWindmills.jpg
visual egret
in poland
worn ember
its to grind his flour
peak ginkgo
Each wind turbine is 262 feet high and the tower has a diameter of 14 feet. The blades of the wind turbines are 120 feet long
let me convert that
worn ember
what shoe size?
cunning raft
freedom units are good enough 
7
ancient bolt
I prefer hands as my unit of measurement
peak ginkgo
Each wind turbine is 79.8576 meters high and the tower has a diameter of 4.2672 meters. The blades of the wind turbines are 36.576 meters* long
quasi valley
I measure everything in toenails
cunning raft
ok rms
ancient bolt
the tower has a diameter of 4.2672 feet.
worn ember
you missed one
visual egret
i measure everything in clean air to prevent inflation
ancient bolt
i measure everything in clean air to prevent inflation
What is this sentence
worn ember
oskar logic, best not to question it
visual egret
i think i might have turned into retrooper while i was away
quasi valley
I also always use more than 2 decimal places for meters ||/s||
peak ginkgo
ijust copy pasted from google
worn ember
what do they use in upsidedownland?
quasi valley
toenails
worn ember
your granny's or yours? big difference
visual egret
small difference
warm anchor
Oskar dotn you have school????
visual egret
yeah, like 6 hours ago
warm anchor
How about homework 
visual egret
oh fuck
uh
uh
well i have one due
ill do it rn to make sure you dont have any power to say anything about school
warm anchor
Yes or I will ask proxi to mute you until homework is done 
visual egret
why are some of my teachers randomly marking my homework as undone
i literally hand it in and they just go hmm time to bother this random student with marking it as undone without telling them why
wide chasm
Guess you'll have to do it all again /s
visual egret
i always just tick it off if they dont provide a reason
viral hornet
I measure everything in toenails
no ty
mossy vessel
visual egret
oh i managed to get a floppy disk working while i was away
PS: how tf did you guys use these things they small and slow as shit
wide chasm
Back then everything was slow
ashen cliff
ZIP drives.
golden gust
zip drivers came in much later and where much costly
bearing in mind that data was generally much smaller there
visual egret
whaa- zip drives?
golden gust
it's not like we had hardware which could rip through gigabytes of data a second
turbid oar
....
golden gust
heck, ram was too expensive to have that much anyways
brave radish
fossil != not teenager
wide chasm
This is why I had a Computer History course in uni, so I could finally be a fossil /s
visual egret
im so confused about how windows handled CD's like USB's- like how?
golden gust
CD-RAM allowed you to modify regions of the disk without toasting the full disk, essentially
golden gust
Oh god, I remember the mythbusters EP
so, basically, normal disks are generally fine
But, if the disk is damaged, 72x was capable of spinning the disk fast enough that it could break
ah, yea, the joys of burning CDs
my grandfather had a litescribe drive which was kinda cool
brave radish
not sure why people still use discs for like...anything
ancient bolt
I prefer to store everything in DVD-RAM
golden gust
to be fair, we did generally use the crappo buds which came with the MP3 player
So, even higher bitrates probably wouldn't change much 😄
visual egret
burning CD's using some random app that started with N i think? on a SONY VAIO old laptop 😔
ancient bolt
DVD-RAM is great because it's literally not random-access because it's on a spinning platter
ashen cliff
Nero.
golden gust
Nero
visual egret
yeah nero
golden gust
Nero was the shit back in the day
they did all the software for printing CD labels and did the litescribe stuff too
ancient bolt
litescribe was amazing
golden gust
I think pretty much any hardware manf which bundled something extra into their drives like litescribe teamed up with Nero for the software
ancient bolt
never seemed to have those discs when I actually wanted to use it though
golden gust
at one point they got their stuff bundled with everything
and, yea, it was the one pita with LS is that you needed special disks and they weren't really cheap
But, I mean, they where good quality disks, so, makes sense
ancient bolt
I remember distro-hopping back then
golden gust
Kinda sad that there was no cheapo after-market brand just for the CDs you toss around
ancient bolt
needed a new disc every time I wanted to try a new distro
I didn't like RW cause they were too slow so I just burned through tons of DVD-R's lmao
golden gust
Its kinda cool that these days you can pick up a small stack of them from the pound/dollar store
I mean, they're not good quality but if you're just throwing disks around they work
I mean, USB drives are nice, but, when you just wanna burn a windows CD or something, find a USB stick you're willing to throw the contents of our is a PITA
I lose all my USB drives somehow
brave radish
probably because the new ones are the size of a fingernail
golden gust
thing with OS install stuff is that most of the tools kinda blow
Like, there was one which allowed you to easily add/remove OSes from it but it seemed to be funky over if some machines would boot from it
floral mesa
windows install cd fucking sucks, its still relying on the vista era installation setup
tools are nice, but its just horrid the fact I need to drop to cli to do everything to fix windows if it bricks itself
wind geyser
windows install cd fucking sucks, its still relying on the vista era installatio...
Sometimes it’s good when your pc doesn’t recognize usb sticks
visual egret
not using dd or balenaetcher be like
golden gust
I mean, you install the OS so infrequently that changing the PE environment is just meh
wind geyser
Sometimes it’s good when your pc doesn’t recognize usb sticks
It saved my arse
golden gust
I mean, it's still nicer than their XP one, so, gotta give them credits there
reminds me of that thing
Nothing like using a floppy disk to boot a USB drive with ubuntu on it
ashen cliff
Plop is nice and all, but most of my cursed hardware didn't support it.
ashen cliff
No, just cursed machines that refuse to boot anything but Windows.
golden gust
but, a floppy disk none the less
wasn't some UFI basket case was it?
I remember when UFI was first sorta like hitting the market and just, damn
ashen cliff
OEM machines mostly. Like some even demanded a specific hard drive.
golden gust
I just love how UEFI is basically the norm, and yet, we still have firmware on mobos which looks like the legacy BIOS setup pages
ashen cliff
So you couldn't just have a prepared IDE HDD.
golden gust
it's so cute
meanwhile IBM back in like fuck knows how long ago had a GUI for their system setup
(yet, they eventually got rid of that in favour of the status quo)
floral mesa
IBM servers still opt for a semi gui experience
ashen cliff
At least IBM has the faster server post time.
waxen panther
eeeeee
golden gust
meanwhile supermicro be like, how many times can we show the boot image
floral mesa
they also had proper UEFI support compared to the fucking bullshit dell uses
ashen cliff
Let me just hang on that MEMORY CHECK FOR 30 MINUTES.
floral mesa
I like my IBM server, it does the job quite well
sadly sold their server division to lenovo in 2014
ashen cliff
At least Lenovo still supports the old IBM trash.
floral mesa
surprisingly yes
ashen cliff
They even provided me with a way to unlock SFP module support on something they didn't even make.
floral mesa
there are still support hotlines for the older IBM era machines
because businesses sure love using machines well past their prime
and I mean well past
ashen cliff
The real reason the internet is still slow.
floral mesa
some companies still rely on some DOS box in the corner of their network closet to maintain their phone network.
ashen cliff
You still see cursed Cisco stuff running from 2000.
golden gust
Thing is that some of these machinesjust last, and replacing them is often a massive ballache
ashen cliff
The 4849 was epic tho. At least for it's time.
ashen cliff
Even now it's epic, power hungry, but epic.
floral mesa
Release Date 27-SEP-2004```yeah, I have a 4948 in the basement and its an original model, still perfectly good really
runs the latest IOS versions fine
ashen cliff
Does it support Auto LACP?
floral mesa
it supports LACP, which is what im using, though im not huge into ESXi's implementation of it
dont know about auto however
I dont believe mine is on auto
it may
ashen cliff
I would tell you to try, but on some hardware revisions (like mine) the OS will crash.
floral mesa
yeah, mine is on active, and auto is an option
ashen cliff
That option saved me a bunch of time at the last LAN party.
warm anchor
nice 
quasi valley
nice :weebravemove:
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by MaxQXQ#9064
wraith trail
this, erm, isn't forge support
cyan glacier
😢 👍
golden gust
wraith trail
yeah that
cyan glacier
k
limpid comet
Bricolu saves the day!
woven otter
didn't know there was advertisement chat in paper
warm anchor
Shut up Duck. Let me cook you 
woven otter
go away weeb
void void
yo just wondering
if u delete ur google account
does google reset ur email?
to make it available again
twin lagoon
iirc it doesn't make it available again
worn ember
would be a security risk
golden gust
seems legit
I mean, people use their email addresses for private stuff
So, if you free their email address and somebody takes it, you could be recieving somebodies sensitve info
Maybe they time stuff out, but, like, ask google?
ashen cliff
AFAIK the policy is permanent lock.
You can get it back if you can verify your identity tho.
worn ember
doesnt that mean we'll eventually run out of email adresses 😮
ashen cliff
No.
worn ember
Whomst
golden gust
Have you heard about domain names?
ashen cliff
64 chars before the @.
ashen cliff
55 chars are legal for email, if we ignore the case sensitive part of the standard.
worn ember
very cool
visual egret
why do people suddenly want to hire me in DM's, lmao
tropic flame
why do people suddenly want to hire me in DM's, lmao
it's the KGB recruitment process
they are testing to see if you're the ideal candidate
visual egret
all seperate DM's
the last one being a notorious p2w server owner
https://i.imgur.com/fPHGYeN.png @modz !!111111! ‼️ ‼️ ‼️ ‼️
olive marlin
That's what you get for saying you make velocity plugins for no price at all.
visual egret
¯_(ツ)_/¯
nova plume
Oskar ur built different that’s why they ask you
visual egret
im sure my parents would be completely unsuspicious after i magically have enough money to buy a car
visual egret
nova plume
Yes
visual egret
also im picking GCSE stuff
nova plume
Nice
visual egret
since ur in the uk, is something like triple science, computer science, history, german good
obviously with the normal subjects (english, maths)
nova plume
I chose tech, German, geography, and economics
visual egret
so if i fail i do it again for free so pog
worn ember
owo
nova plume
No
worn ember
awa
nova plume
No
visual egret
Is one of ur options triple sci?
Yeah
nova plume
since ur in the uk, is something like triple science, computer science, history,...
Just remember that they speak really fast in listenings for any language, especially at GCSE standard
U doing higher right?
Not foundation
nova plume
We got to pick 4 for our GCSEs
Umm we don’t talk about sets here lol
In my defence I go to one of the best grammar schools in the country so everyone here is like very smort, and then there’s people like me who are up every night doing homework and revising for the constant tests they set us at this school
nova plume
My dad was like hey ur doing the entrance test and somehow I got in without even doing anything for 11+
golden gust
but, how
minor badge
Tim Apple
golden gust
I gotta get tested for autism and shit once stuff starts opening up
minor badge
vernal moth
That's really hard cat
static badge
don't bother taking the test to see if you're dumb as fuck
visual egret
I gotta get tested for autism and shit once stuff starts opening up
i think i should get too tbh
static badge
we already know
vernal moth
Getting a proper diagnosis for stuff like that takes years
golden gust
.leaf
limber knotBOT
nova plume
I gotta get tested for autism and shit once stuff starts opening up
Honestly, I’m 99% sure I’ve got ADHD, and looking at the NHS page for it I’ve basically got everything on the list
visual egret
wait... did i ping cat by accident
visual egret
im not sure if i did
brave radish
wait... did i ping cat by accident
no?
visual egret
through replies
brave radish
There's no @
brave radish
through replies
look, there's an @ on this one
nova plume
I mean ur not ded yet, so maybe u didn’t
worn ember
you'll never be
visual egret
bruh
nova plume
Smh
visual egret
pog looks like it works
now time to implement bstats on velocity
and implement everything on bungee
exciting
nova plume
Then there’s me who rejoices when my discord bot command works properly
visual egret
me a year ago ^
nova plume
Lmao
visual egret
what lang?
nova plume
Java
nova plume
Pythons easier ig
For a bot
But then I alr know Java and I cba to learn a new lang
I considered I believe rust
nova plume
Yo what are those
visual egret
hm?
nova plume
A cron expression
nova plume
Oh
unkempt drift
LOL
nova plume
😂
visual egret
what?
unkempt drift
Everyone saw it
brave radish
unkempt drift
No hiding now
brave radish
that's what was supposed to be my clipboard ^^
nova plume
My search history is basically google translate
My teacher knows i google translate all the homework’s and oral answers ( @visual egret you will need to prepare oral answers for every topic and memorise them so if they ask in the actual GCSE exams u know it) but I always get the highest so she can’t say anything lol
visual egret
they dont force us to take a lang
visual egret
the only thing they force us to do is (english stuff), maths, combined science (if you do triple science it replaces combined)
nova plume
Yeah we’re doing triple
I got physics tmrw
Wait shit I got economics hw due tmrw
Cya
visual egret
economics?
nova plume
Yeah I took economics
visual egret
i thought it was just business & enterprise
ashen cliff
pog looks like it works
Why TF would you be logging the commands publicly tho?
visual egret
just curious what people are using it for
nova plume
i thought it was just business & enterprise
Ig economics is a mixture of both
ashen cliff
Still, no one does that on bStats, since you know privacy n stuff.
visual egret
whats so private about the first half of a command that you put in a config though
ashen cliff
Custom commands perhaps?
worn ember
nova plume
That 1
golden gust
Well, I mean, you need maths and english for pretty much any opertunities these days, most colleges do offer like, a level 2 english course
nova plume
i thought it was just business & enterprise
Oh and were allowed to bring laptops into school now \o/. Time to play minecraft at 1000fps in school lol
golden gust
I had to do level 2 english and maths anyways at training school or something, as your GCSE is only really "recognised" for like 5 years or something dumb
level 2 is forever
visual egret
i mean- my comp sci teacher will probably somehow force the people higher up to let me bring a laptop in but
cool
nova plume
Lol
brave radish
You have a computer science class and your school doesn't allow your own computers???
nova plume
We need it for “PowerPoint” and “solidworks”
worn ember
i study math and then just forget it again lol, like i dont remember anything from my math course last year
nova plume
Oh shit I have a maths test too
worn ember
i think it was about probability but thats all i remember
visual egret
You have a computer science class and your school doesn't allow your own compute...
well i dont think year 9 roadmen are the most trusted people in england
but ya know
you do you
golden gust
bearing in mind that those devices need to be brought in, put on the network if you wanna access the internet, etc
visual egret
we do have a public wifi thing
golden gust
our HS wouldn't stop us bringing in stuff like a tablet, but, I mean, you couldn't connect to wifi there so there was generally no point
visual egret
i'm curious what happens if i got a device plugged into ethernet with no client-side restrictions
brave radish
If I brought my laptop to a school, I'd be much more concerned about putting it on the network with the 50 computers used by teenagers all day than the other way around
nova plume
I leaked the school WiFi password using a keylogger on the school pcs. I have lots of teachers passwords now lmfso
golden gust
I think with the introduction of 6th form many schools have adopted public wifi points for various reasons
visual egret
most of our schools "security" is client side
nova plume
Our school has like 5 WiFi networks
brave radish
My old school's WiFi password is on Yahoo Answers 😆
visual egret
L
brave radish
Or at least, it was, but that's shutting down now
golden gust
Like, my HS was bottom of the barrel, we where on special measures :L
worn ember
understandable
visual egret
# If you would like to opt out from including the name of the command you excecuted in stats. THIS DOES NOT OPT YOU OUT FROM BSTATS
include-command-in-stats=true
``` @ashen cliff is something like this fine theni should probably make it plural
golden gust
I mean, I come from a city which is basically falling apart
worn ember
i dont get why its tracked in the first place
ashen cliff
Now just make it default to false .
nova plume
onononono
golden gust
Like, my city was on the river ribble which used to be used for the cotton trade, and we where a big like priest/mill industry
Apparently our city used to actually be called priest town
nova plume
They’re building a huge sky studios near where I live. I can hear the construction noises lol
golden gust
We had the first motor way too! 😄
visual egret
you know what i find kinda weird?
one day, head of year isn't in school, then next day our school gets informed she has a brain tumour
one week later, new topic in biology, the human brain
another week later (today) how brain tumours work
golden gust
Oh god
nova plume
In our school
visual egret
golden gust
So, basically, my school, being in special measures, couldn't find a maths teacher
And, so, we ended up having like a sub for a year or so, and everybody hated her as she was basically a bitch and a complete moron
nova plume
And the worst part is THEYRE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES AND NOW SHE HAS A SURNAME OF AN ECONOMICS TEACHER FROM SOUTH INDIA
and they married in January/February
golden gust
apparently she knew the guy who created mymaths, so, shamefully we had to use that thing during lessons, which, like, it was a horrible site even if it does have some nostaligia in there
visual egret
when a teacher suddenly changes their name you know they gonna leave
nova plume
Yea
nova plume
Never heard of it lol
golden gust
But, basically, we apparentlly sorta drove her into a mental home
frank otter
I've heard of mymaths
we I think have a login for it?
never used it
was some other maths website
visual egret
either way, after like 50 years they added google login to mathswatch which was pog
they got ddosed yesterday which meant i couldn't do my work for like 30 minutes
frank otter
wait
nova plume
This is what we use. Dont wuestion the no sim my sim expired and im getting a new one
frank otter
does Google login defeat the point of multiple different passwords
frank otter
This is what we use. Dont wuestion the no sim my sim expired and im getting a ne...
we use Google classroom
unkempt drift
illegal phone. No SIM. calling phone police now
frank otter
don't like it but it works
visual egret
well everyone in our class got the same password anyway lmao
frank otter
illegal phone. No SIM. calling phone police now
can you even call the police without a sim
visual egret
its harder to get someone's username than password
nova plume
illegal phone. No SIM. calling phone police now
Don’t reveal me secrets shhh /j
frank otter
can you make emergency calls w/o a sim?
visual egret
yeah iirc
golden gust
yes
nova plume
Yea I think so
unkempt drift
so at my high school, we all got iPads, and most people setup their school emails to work with iMessage, so one day, I sat down for like 2 hours, and on my mac, created this MASSIVE iMessage group chat with all 170 emails in my class.
frank otter
does needing to order tacos from the local takeaway qualify as an emergency
unkempt drift
the group totally bugged out. People would leave, and then they'd all get randomly added back at once
nova plume
I just pinged @ everyone and everyone’s phones went off in assembly
visual egret
rip
nova plume
It was hilarious
visual egret
i can just imagine that
visual egret
in a strict school they would have to give everyone in assembly detention lol
nova plume
Nah they’ll be on silent this time. They’ve learnt
frank otter
Damn it
visual egret
how on earth do people use snapchat?
nova plume
Idk
visual egret
then they go on and say discord is confusing 🤣
nova plume
Discord best
frank otter
it's like discord but the dev never learned sql
visual egret
its like discord but with hard ui
native wolf
Snapchat's UX isn't really the best
frank otter
then they go on and say discord is confusing 🤣
I can understand people who say discord is confusing
all the roles n shish
permissions
frank otter
dming no
nova plume
But all u really need is a group chat or smth
frank otter
Servering yes
visual egret
discord is like whatsapp but without pain
native wolf
I can understand people who say discord is confusing
Discord made it way easier than it was a year ago tho
frank otter
WhatsApp is like sms but facebook
nova plume
What happened with Microsoft and discord
visual egret
pain = facebook
frank otter
Discord made it way easier than it was a year ago tho
yeah, kudos to the devs
nova plume
Did they cancel it
unkempt drift
was never gonna happen
golden gust
Oh god, so there was this TV show called coming of age which I used to watch
visual egret
What happened with Microsoft and discord
they said fuck it and ps4/5 gets discord in early 2022
left swift
Ur a tv show
frank otter
iirc yes but discord is still adding a ton of nitro-only features
golden gust
had it on my phone to watch it during break, and somehow during assembly it started playing
nova plume
they said fuck it and ps4/5 gets discord in early 2022
Ew pcmasterrace lol
Lmao cat
How loud was it
frank otter
had it on my phone to watch it during break, and somehow during assembly it star...
not as bad as it could have been
golden gust
Oh god, and, did you know that there was a time before unplugging the headphone jack would pause the music?
visual egret
waat
nova plume
We have a dedicated channel just for mugshots on our private server. We have an emoji for everyone in our form lol
visual egret
that must be painful
nova plume
It’s such a godsend tbh
golden gust
visual egret
We have a dedicated channel just for mugshots on our private server. We have an ...
in our school people just take their phones out and do stuff on snapchat
no idea what they do cus idk what it is
nova plume
“Stuff”
golden gust
I might or might not have dropped my phone while playing that in class
nova plume
Snapchat is like Instagram, and photoshop but for 13 year old girls
nova plume
Lol
frank otter
i recently made more friends with girls and i can confirm that
Same here but they all use Instagram
wraith trail
being banned from paper seems to have worked wonders for you
frank otter
that thing at least makes sense
golden gust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLK3dYBduOE | Then there is this beast of a tune
nova plume
Lmao
visual egret
wait sulu isnt that wrong though
nova plume
He admits it
wraith trail
should try it again :)
visual egret
nah im fine for now
nova plume
U sure?
nova plume
Our school is so dumb they didn’t even give us coffee or smth for a reaction time test practical
For biology
frank otter
Chalk r u british
nova plume
Allnighters have given me experience
visual egret
tastes like shit
nova plume
Ye
visual egret
wait i saw something funny
nova plume
I’m doing AQA for everyone apart from econ and eng which is ocr and maths which is edexcel
Everything*
Steve jobs doesn’t like me today
visual egret
frank otter
I'm doing wjec everything apart from econ which I think is aqa
nova plume
So true fr
golden gust
oh god
My HS was showing off about some IT degree thing
I mean, it's basically a "hey, you know how to use office and frontpage" type deal, we even got some audacity in too
ah, yea, OCR
it was new at the time and still generally seems to be kinda worth piss
void void
Yo the export vault option in bitwarden puts all your passwords and information into a text file for you to view right?
golden gust
yes
void void
Okay, is there any concerns with it?
nova plume
Just don’t let anyone see it
frank otter
and ideally properly delete it
frank otter
wait no like
void void
?
void void
woah woah I don't think we have to resort to that
frank otter
it overwrites the bytes so if your hdd gets nicked it's harder to recover data
given that's it all your passwords in plaintext...
void void
but i can just shift delete 😦
visual egret
and?
frank otter
what is 'shift delete'
void void
doesnt delete the file?
golden gust
shift delete skips the recycle bin
No, it just marks the area as free on the disk and removes the MFT entry
frank otter
so the bytes are still there
void void
lmao
golden gust
the file is still on the disk, if you have an SSD, things get more complex, however
frank otter
Once I found all my passwords while strings-ing /dev/sda
nova plume
Oh, and @visual egret about my discord bot. Idk how to make it so that only admins can use ~clear so anyone can nuke the server if they find out lol
frank otter
the file is still on the disk, if you have an SSD, things get more complex, howe...
do explain plz
visual egret
check if they have a role?
void void
So what's the best way to delete a file?
golden gust
you can't secure-erase on an SSD due to how they deal with wear leveling
visual egret
shred the hard drive
void void
I always deleted my files through shift delete or recycle bin
frank otter
the most secure way is make the file never exist in the first place
void void
🤔
golden gust
when you write to an SSD, the data in that block basically gets moved as you can't overwrite individual sections, so it basically just moves the data
void void
let me just reverse time
frank otter
wait so the data is still there, its just lost
and the file table doesn't have it anymore
golden gust
Yes, but due to how wear leveling works, with SSDs you can't shread the data, but, the chance of reading it without low level stuff is slim
actually erasing the file would be slow and generally a waste of time for most use-cases
frank otter
low level as in trying bytes to ascii for each read
golden gust
low level asin bypassing the drives firmware and reading the chips in general
visual egret
fill the drive with 0 ez
golden gust
Do you have an SSD or a HDD?
ashen cliff
TRIM exists.
golden gust
if HDD, you'd use shread
frank otter
low level asin bypassing the drives firmware and reading the chips in general
ight that's too low level
golden gust
if SSD, just leave it, wear leveling will wipe it out at some point
frank otter
does windows even have shred
golden gust
There are tools for it
nova plume
Guys noones gonna nuke their drive ok calm down
visual egret
stoopid america speeling stuff wrong because capitalism
frank otter
I can nuke my drive if its needed
golden gust
speeling
nova plume
stoopid
frank otter
very speeling much grammer
nova plume
very nice
visual egret
does spotify really think im old enough to buy a volvo
unless i had that 9 thousand dollar budget from "customised velocity"
golden gust
i wAs bOrN iN tHe wROnG ErA
frank otter
if Spotify says buy a volvo, buy a volvo
sure you can't use it but then Al least you have a volvo
brave radish
I just wrote 3.5MB of "ThiHello" repeated to a file accidentally
visual egret
👏
frank otter
a while back I wrote like 8gb of y to a file in about 15s
visual egret
c?
frank otter
am still not sure why it happened
void void
dude 😦
brave radish
there's a Reddit post on how some implementations of yes are so fast
void void
I don't wanna shed my precious hdd
visual egret
then burn it
brave radish
here ya go @visual egret https://www.reddit.com/r/unix/comments/6gxduc/how_is_gnu_yes_so_fast/
frank otter
honestly if someone's not actively out for your data just deleting it conventionally is maybe ok
ish
brave radish
Debugging stuff is so much less stressful when the watchdog/your client isn't gonna go insane
nova plume
does spotify really think im old enough to buy a volvo
Yeah they should know ur age from the data they got innit
I miss Spotify premium
It’s really useful
frank otter
I have to have yt music ad locked
my torrent of some music never did finish downloading so here I am
ashen cliff
Volvo.
nova plume
BMW better
ashen cliff
worn ember
brigadier is actually quite nice to use 
golden gust
I sorta kept debating on creating a wrapper for it
worn ember
well ig there is cloud and acf that kinda does already
formal turret
i found commandAPI that gets pretty close to how i was using brig
wraith trail
ded chat plugin?
worn ember
nah mod
now i just gotta figure out how to render gifs and video
would be cool if you could send a text component to someone with yt video you can just play lol
lean kiln
Component.youtube(URL)
worn ember
rendering images isnt too hard but i have no clue how i'd even render video in opengl
let alone read the datastream lol
void void
oh thats rlly hot
potent fossil
They keep talking about how hard this shit is and I haven't done a single homework assignment in 3 months and I have a 90%
This is one of the easiest math classes I have ever taken
I even got warnings from ppl in here about how hard multivariate is and it's not
golden gust
Well, yea, but, aren't you autistic
potent fossil
Don't bully me
golden gust
I mean, I find that maths is one of those things which it either really clicks for you or it doesn't
I used to have issues in maths picking stuff up, but, it's more I just couldn't entirely follow the speaking of the teacher
novel horizon
Kinda
potent fossil
i mean calculus is just overhyped. the hard part of calculus is algebra.
calculus itself is easy
golden gust
But, once it sorta like, visually clicked in my mind, it just worked
potent fossil
very very fucking easy
golden gust
I think maths is a fun subject as it really shows the fact that people have minds which work differently
potent fossil
"o lok it heb exponent, subtract and move down"
"o lok it heb exponent, add and divide by new sum"
and the rest are just tricks and algebra
golden gust
Like, I've never been tested as my parents love me so much they cared so much to get me tested, but, I've been suspected to have like aspergers, which causes me oh so many joyous challenges, for me, my english is totally fucking ass, and I did some research and it's basically the way we write generally tends to be the way we speak
Like, even when tryna be profesh, I write as if I'm speaking, which is a fuuuucking ballache for professional writing
potent fossil
I'm pretty sure I do have aspergers, but I've never been tested and I probably won't try and get tested myself. I'm good with technical things, but anything else lol
golden gust
But, with maths, like, listening to the teacher is just, fucking ass, cos i just can't really follow it, but, back in maths I used to be able to spot odd fun little shortcuts
Not been interested all that much in maths for years, but, I kinda wanna pick it up a bit again, maybe
warm anchor
It’s ok cat we love you the way you are no matter what 
void void
damn dimple
crystal compass
odd, just opened my intellij and my maven dependencies are not registering at all cool
void void
why dont u flex some more 😒
potent fossil
What am I flexxing
That calc is easy? I'm sure there are many people here who would agree with that
worn ember
ok nerd
potent fossil
DeD moment
worn ember
u good at math so you must be a douche 
golden gust
i mean, maths really depends on how your brain clicks
potent fossil
am i being a douche...? lol
novel horizon
👀
worn ember
i love me some Pb politics
novel horizon
math is kinda easy, but some things get kinda harder, but depends, for some people it's easy to count 20x30 , for some it takes more time.. 🤷♂️
i like maths, well at least without any algebra lol, but it's fine, math is great
waxen panther
Hi
golden gust
- screw broc
novel horizon
lol its broc
golden gust
- Those pings still look ugly af
novel horizon
yeah they look damn weird now
unkempt drift
I like the new reactions, but pings are eh
novel horizon
yeah they look kinda nice
but pings before looked better than now
weird colors or so
unkempt drift
@unkempt drift
novel horizon
oh finally someone pings me @novel horizon
warm anchor
I like the new reactions, but pings are eh
Discord be like “ok the old ping is too noticeable. Let’s make it unreadable”
waxen panther
the new reactions look good when you havent reacted to them
the reacted reactions look like dogshit though
cosmic raft
what should I eat
warm anchor
sushi 
unkempt drift
truffles
void void
yo just wondering if I delete the git config from my pc, does that mean the username and email I stored in git is gone?
brave radish
yes? but if that's your goal and not a side effect, you can just reset it
brave radish
yes? but if that's your goal and not a side effect, you can just reset it
or, the preferred solution, set it to your GitHub address thingy
void void
yeh but if I delete the repo then all commits all gone 🙂
brave radish
I just went looking through vanilla source code for an hour for how to add an API. Then I opened the Paper source, went to the relevant section... and it was already there 😂
I searched the javadocs first, just... not well, apparently
void void
yo where do i go to hide my activity on github
unkempt drift
can you do that?
unkempt drift
Marcel wants to hide his contributions to... yatopia
potent fossil
unkempt drift
you can hide membership to an organization for some reason
golden gust
You can hide private activity from your graphs, that too
But, activity on public repos, etc, no
brave radish
You can hide private activity from your graphs, that too
(and from recent activity and from "X person mentioned this issue/pull request in Y repo Z days ago")
potent fossil
the easiest way if you want to contribute to a public repo anonymously is to make a throwaway github account with throwaway git config
contribute, then...throw it away
potent fossil
wait, you can create a Team within a Team ....
yea
golden gust
all in favour of throwing simple away say aye
potent fossil
aye
brave radish
or DM the patch to Yatopia :)
unkempt drift
are org teams publicly viewable?
brave radish
yes