You know all these teas but what about seas
#general
left swift
untold copper
my brain
golden gust
tea is fun, and people will swear by different brands as if it's a religion
void void
guys everyone elsenis no longer the bus
golden gust
I think PG tips is great when you've had like a hardy day
golden gust
tetley is smoother, however
warm anchor
Zzzcat and brocco should give me their address. I will send them some Japanese rice tea
cedar spade
rice tea sounds like ice tea but lumpier
warm anchor
It’s actually pretty good
spiral robin
hi
worn ember
when you think networking irl is complicated
woven otter
wtf is that mod
cold pumice
Ouch, my eyes
unkempt drift
its an addon mod that helps you when making networks
unkempt drift
the network analyzer or smth
untold copper
@worn ember cmere
unkempt drift
the mod is called AE2 Stuff
unkempt drift
I've played with it on 1.12.2 as well
so idk why it says 1.7.10 on its curseforge page
cedar spade
hot take: AE2 is too much effort, would rather play AE1/whatever that AE1 remake mod was called
although tbf I haven't played AE2 for ages so it might be easier than I remember
untold copper
Well im very new to all energy mods and stuff
so this is fine
Currently I am playing with AE2 + ThermalExpansion + Create
oof i need to allocate the right amount of ram, cant have my pc dying every time lmao
magic river
Could you make that less readable?
untold copper
void void
aaa
Hey folks
Is there any plugin that will regenerate structures like temples, mineshafts, or nether fortresses over time?
static badge
Could you make that less readable?
it's the forge startup i think
magic river
I thought that happened on the white mojang logo screen
cedar spade
Looks like the Mojang screen (which iirc is now red) faded out by Windows for locking up
tawdry girder
prove you are human: enter the heap size
static badge
no it happens on the red
left swift
Heap is such a fun word to say
wise vortex
anyone can help me on waterfall-help?
woven otter
Heap is such a fun word to say
Heap
golden gust
I mean, am surprised that somebody like, did that
novel horizon
wtf
AE2 is SO GREAT!!
oh my god
but if you are annoyed by "channels" why not just turn them off in config lol
and its like AE1 but much better
minor badge
i just do the interface + storage bus trick
waxen panther
configs ?
novel horizon
yeah
novel horizon
exactly
that too
that's great
you can do so much and so big networks with still only 1 controller
minor badge
it hinders progress a bit early stage, but once you get going, it's fine
waxen panther
it's just more to think about
novel horizon
if you hate the channels tho just turn them off lol
waxen panther
yawn emoji
novel horizon
wtf
i like thinking thats why i play it lol
that i need to make it run the best way
thats like yawn emoji why mine just /give almost lol
but its preference just saying u can turn it off and done
olive marlin
^^ I want some mental work, hate grind.
novel horizon
yeah
I'm playing it to try make it a great system, then I am kinda proud I did it and such
waxen panther
most machines dont
novel horizon
"i need to craft this so i should make this in that machine" is thinking
well its fine ^^ just saying 😄
i like it
waxen panther
😁 😁 i think you're thinking about this too much 😁 😁
novel horizon
how are you crafting then without thinking
waxen panther
jei
novel horizon
do you have everything magically done without doing anything 😄
yeah but you thinka bout what to craft and such
waxen panther
yes press button and it says how to 😀
waxen panther
what
novel horizon
u need to get them, by machines, you need to smelt them and such
waxen panther
idek what you're saying anymore
waxen panther
😁
sand shuttle
@waxen panther
I assume they're saying you need to get them by machines by smelting them and such if jei doesn't give you resources for free, or something along those lines
waxen panther
Yeah idk I’m just saying I like AE1 more than AE2 because it’s easier 
unkempt drift
Am I hearing things, or did Apple have Miley Cyrus voice this ad? https://youtu.be/Ihw_Al4RNno
To me, it really sounds like her voice
sand shuttle
I'm curious, what's the chances someone here would use a minecraft Anti-Virus that's a linux service... even more so from someone who doesn't really know how to secure their shit as is 🤔
cunning raft
Dogshit
sand shuttle
so many ways it can be abused so far 👀
cunning raft
I don't even need to look at the code
Any anti virus for Minecraft plug-ins is beyond useless
sand shuttle
Depends
cunning raft
Will only tell you if you've been infected with something it already knows about and that's if the virus didn't corrupt the anti virus
Which is why it's not an anti virus
Is a virus notifier
waxen panther
the best anti-virus is not visiting [redacted colour]spigot
sand shuttle
@waxen panther What if they were all on spigot's actual site 🤔
waxen panther
yeah you're right
the best anti virus is not visiting spigot at all
and waiting for hangar 
olive marlin
I saw one that boots early and disables plugins, so it can help. But best is to just check your shit on staging instance.
sand shuttle
Will only tell you if you've been infected with something it already knows about...
As much as I'd love to go bat shit insane with detections I have to take into account anything i look for can be abused when it comes to the greater community.
Howeve the following stats are for spigot's site only:
As of the first release of my Anti-Malware (First Release: Feb 25, 2019)
383 malicious plugins have been found
73 different malicious devs get automatically banned
257 different checks have been implemented
sand shuttle
Actually, I'm not simping 🤣
Just stating what I've found from my own experience creating one
void void
Hello everyone!
sand shuttle
There's also this lovely list too https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/list-of-found-malware.389467/
void void
Where can I ask for plugins?
void void
not like that
I just want to ask for plugin recommendations
Sorry if I'm misunderstood
waxen panther
oh, if you have a particular type of plugin you want you can ask in #paper-help but for the most part they'll probably just tell you to google it lol
void void
I want to ask because I want to find the most optimized one for what I need
minor badge
@waxen panther hh->nk am i right 
waxen panther
is that easter egg still in ?
minor badge
yos
cedar spade
it only works sometimes for me :(
waxen panther
ah yeah you have to do it in the help window
thats what i was missing
coolest one tbh
minor badge
ctrl-shift-\
void void
😄
waxen panther
😀
cedar spade
🙂
void void
found a plugin already, I hope WorldGuard still works
abstract axle
Hi guys, could you please help me? I am looking for a way which allow me to enable /fly command per player in MC Forger Server 1.16.5. As far as I know PaperMC plugin will not work on Forger Server, right?
void void
I know, its random, but is here someone who has expirience with nginx? and can help me xd
magic river
.ask
void void
xD
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
void void
Why is my nginx only working, if i let the website listen for port 80, if i do for another one, it doesnt connect ("ip" takes to long to respond).. I have my ufw off!
(i think its disabled) its says: status:inactive
modest path
.cringe
magic river
Just in case try sudo ufw allow <port>
magic river
Are you using cloudflare or something?
void void
void void
Are you using cloudflare or something?
nope, just my ip from the machine
magic river
Make sure you're connecting to your actual IP, http://<real ip>:<port>/
The only reason nginx wouldn't work from another port is bad configuration, a firewall, or a proxy (basically a firewall)
wide chasm
!warn @void void Don't spam across channels
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Warned B0B#5152 (Don't spam across channels) [1 total infraction] -- stefvanschie#7609.
waxen panther
hmmm
void void
Might have to reload ufw
how? xd
waxen panther
wasnt someone with that name banned before
wide chasm
wasnt someone with that name banned before
Not that I can find
waxen panther
hmmmm
magic river
Well I'm out of ideas
Unless there is a firewall or something outside of your box or you have some custom iptables rules
void void
Okay
ill check iptable
bruh i just found out, my shitty new host has a own firewall setting tab
i fixed it Xd
thanks!!!
magic river
void void
left swift
Not that I can find
That was the same guy that got kicked for saying like yes over and over again then joined back with a different name I'm pretty sure
severe pond
i have a question
waxen panther
.ask
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
severe pond
Is it a good idea to drop out of school to run a minecraft server
waxen panther
no
sand shuttle
^
waxen panther
that is quite possibly the worst idea i have ever heard in my entire life
severe pond
ok then i will do it
waxen panther
ok have fun 😀
severe pond
ok
cunning raft
Lot of weak bait or comedy geniuses today
waxen panther
no
woven otter
shut
granite axle
whats that photoshop alternative everyone raves about called
native wolf
idk i use GIMP
native wolf
That's also a good one
magic river
Krita
Krita is for drawing, GIMP is for photo manipulation, Inkscape is for drawing but vectors, Paint.NET is like GIMP-lite
I guess Inkscape would be more of a replacement for Illustrator
native wolf
Oh and there's also Photopea
magic river
People do use Photoshop for drawing though, even though it's meant really meant for it
magic river
"fully"
native wolf
psd is such a mess
I had a comment from some program saved somewhere
That perfectly describes working with psd format
waxen panther
sir ?
golden gust
don't threaten him with a good time
cunning raft
!ban @minor badge
thorny flickerBOT
Command ban requires 2 argument(s) (<user:user|snowflake> <reason:str...>) passed 1
golden gust
and I said, and I said
cunning raft
The bot is broken
golden gust
Biiiiitttccchhh
cunning raft
You should be gone by now
golden gust
minor badge
minor badge
hello
vagrant marlin
😭
waxen panther
minor badge
cat 😔
woven otter
you are all pretty cringe
vagrant marlin
cringe stands for giga chad
woven otter
waxen panther
banned
night canyon
Is there a plugin to make disabling mob spawning pvp etc global easy?
woven otter
@waxen panther
vagrant marlin
Is there a plugin to make disabling mob spawning pvp etc global easy?
server.properties
olive marlin
If you need more fine-tune then WorldGuard, but it's better to use gamerules for most things.
Just remember that they are per-world.
brave radish
Technical Changes in 21w16a
Users who previously permanently declined server resource packs will now still be shown the pack prompt if the pack is mandatory (instead of being immediately disconnected)
**The statistic for play time has been renamed to play_time**
massive changes
lean kiln
is that the one that had a misleading name before
olive marlin
I wonder how MD_5 is gonna deal with this in cross-version compat.
brave radish
He'll probably just keep the old one in there
brave radish
can you even @Deprecated that?
golden gust
Yea
Need a 3 sided coin, he'll either leave it as-is, replace it and commodore it, or replace it and say fuck it
waxen panther
coins are 3 sided
nova plume
Heads, tails, and the long bit that goes around
brave radish
but is the "long bit that goes around" one side?
golden gust
which side is the edge outta those 3
nova plume
It's 3D, so its a side
brave radish
it's like 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 sides
severe pond
is paper a fork of spigot which is a fork of bukkit which is a fork of minecraft?
golden gust
basically, yes
brave radish
bukkit is an API
severe pond
ok
nova plume
Yeah basically
golden gust
and, well, craftbukkit*
brave radish
CraftBukkit is what Spigot is a "fork" of, which is a server
golden gust
I mean, I know that's like, latest
unkempt drift
yatopia = greatest mc fork per Prof_Bloodstone
golden gust
But, that just reminded me of the days when apple would release an update and people would be selling non updated iPhones for stupid prices
olive marlin
yatopia = greatest mc fork per Prof_Bloodstone
WTF?
unkempt drift
😜
olive marlin
Where from you got that stupidity?
nova plume
olive marlin
Spreading LIES.
brave radish
yatopia = greatest mc fork per Prof_Bloodstone
@ mods
nova plume
Its an old iPhone 6s
brave radish
I love how you're talking about the iPhone 6s being sooooo olllddd
nova plume
It is old
brave radish
came out in 2015
golden gust
seperate skin tone variations, damn
am so old I remember when emoji's where yellow and nobody gave a shit
nova plume
Lmao
waxen panther
2015 was a million years ago
unkempt drift
in tech years for sure
nova plume
Ooohhhh
golden gust
brave radish
M1 iPhone wen
nova plume
They look clean
golden gust
Well, yea, apples pics are generally pretty clean
the whole night/day thing is cool, but, eer...
I don't even rememebr what my desktop looks like
nova plume
I don't think Apple would even make an M1 iPhone tbh, not in the near future at least
unkempt drift
oh wait, 14.5 has new wallpapers?
brave radish
I don't think Apple would even make an M1 iPhone tbh, not in the near future at ...
nor do I; that's why I used "wen" instead of "when" :)
brave radish
their last event was so cool and then they were like... iPhone 12 is purple now
like who cares that much?
unkempt drift
well that was hardly the cool thing...
nova plume
It does look really good in purple to be fair
brave radish
well that was hardly the cool thing...
yeah that's my point
nova plume
May be because purple is my fav colour but still
unkempt drift
the M1 iPad Pros are just so much more OP than they already were
and the iMacs look pretty slick
idrc about the chin. some people seem to think thats a huge issue
nova plume
Who's gonna buy a yellow iMac?
unkempt drift
idk, but theres like 7 colors
brave radish
they were like "M1 iPad" "11.5 mm M1 iMac" "AirTags" (which are admittedly now as cool but still) and then... a purple phone
unkempt drift
the purple phone was first right?
they didnt like, save it for some big annoucement
brave radish
I didn't even watch it
waxen panther
it's a small event
brave radish
but like still
waxen panther
purple iphone wasnt last lol
brave radish
that's how the list goes in importance
waxen panther
or at least im fairly sure it wasnt
brave radish
yeah the order doesn't matter
waxen panther
they always release a mid season iphone colorway
brave radish
just like... everything else was so cool 😆
waxen panther
so they should've just not announced it? :p
unkempt drift
usually, its the PRODUCT (RED) color
waxen panther
ye
unkempt drift
but they did that at launch
I heard a rumor that its Purple cause that was steve jobs' fav color and its 10 years since he died
or smth like that
some Steve Jobs tribute
brave radish
it's useful on nothing but a 12
nova plume
Yeah, my point
brave radish
quit mocking my poor 6s 😢
nova plume
Sorry
brave radish
6s good phone
unkempt drift
first thing I'm doing after my phone is done updating... tell all apps to not track the IDFA
brave radish
first thing I'm doing after my phone is done updating... tell all apps to not tr...
isn't that what "limit ad tracking" does?
unkempt drift
yeah, and itll ask you for each app, or you can just auto-decline it for all apps
brave radish
I mean the old "limit ad tracking"
unkempt drift
im not sure. I know this one is about sharing the IDFA across apps
nova plume
Whatever you say about Apple, everyone knows that their website looks really good
That's what got my friend to buy M1 MBP || which he promptly broke ||
brave radish
btw, fun macOS trick when bored: spam click the date in the bar at the top as fast as you can
it'll keep opening and closing after you stop
brave radish
Whatever you say about Apple, everyone knows that their website looks really goo...
oof
nova plume
Screen has a huge crack in it, since he yeeted it shut with earphones on top of the keyboard/trackpad
dumbarse tbh
brave radish
Java Edition needs an RTX version
I mean, Java is a great lang for that, right?
😄
nova plume
There's already RTX-like shaders
brave radish
Let's rewrite Minecraft in Kotlin
nova plume
And since Mojang were gonna buy OptiFine before, but then backed out because they only wanted parts of it, not the full mod, I doubt its gonna come any time soon
nova plume
Let's rewrite Minecraft in Kotlin
Lmao yes
brave radish
Unfortunately, it'd be too Mojangy to be open source
brave radish
No
nova plume
Yeah, it's a good learning resource, but it's not worth it for the company at least
brave radish
I didn't say Minecraft should be open source
nova plume
What do you want open sourced then?
nova plume
Is kotlin really that good as it's hyped up to be
brave radish
not yet
nova plume
I don't get why there are constantly :: and :?
brave radish
but I have faith
olive marlin
It's OK ish.
It's easier for me when it comes to having shorter development time etc.
nova plume
I see
olive marlin
But I wouldn't write a library in it or anything.
brave radish
ngl; I like Java more
olive marlin
And if I wouldn't be constraint to JVM, I'd prefer other languages.
brave radish
but Java doesn't do WASM, JS, etc
nova plume
How is the fact that it can be compiled into JavaScript beneficial though? I mean I haven't really done any other dev work other than Minecraft Plugins, Mods and Discord Bots in JDA
brave radish
It does do native now at least with graal
olive marlin
Kotlin is my "Has to work on JVM and not be a pain to work with".
brave radish
How is the fact that it can be compiled into JavaScript beneficial though? I mea...
because A. It makes it easier to, for example, develop both a native/jvm app and a browser version at the same time
and B. people don't like JS
olive marlin
I use it exclusively for my custom plugins, and wouldn't use it for anything else tbh.
Would use TS to transpile to JS.
nova plume
because A. It makes it easier to, for example, develop both a native/jvm app and...
Ahh I see
olive marlin
Would use Rust if I wanted WASM.
brave radish
discord desktop is the web version in electron
olive marlin
Discord desktop is the same JS.
brave radish
(I think)
olive marlin
Yeah.
brave radish
Imagine Discord written in JVM
what
olive marlin
Not sure if it's 100% the same, but it'd be mostly the same.
brave radish
A. How are we supposed to imagine that; what are you even saying?
B. Written in JVM?
nova plume
Kotlin, Java, etc
brave radish
What would be wrong with Discord written for the JVM?
nova plume
Multiple langs can be used
Nothing, it would be very epic
Not saying in a negative way
brave radish
and why would it be epic?
nova plume
Cos we Java devs innit
brave radish
I don't get the difference between this and saying "image a calculator written in C"
nova plume
iPhone 6s power cycling 🤦♂️
C is weird
I say that but the only lang i properly know is Java
nova plume
What's the difference
brave radish
Java + pointers
nova plume
Oh
foggy veldt
I don't get the difference between this and saying "image a calculator written i...
Not all languages are the same, but you have to ask yourself if the benefits of writing your program in a maybe more performant language is worth the headache while developing and deploying it
brave radish
I was just saying knowing what language something is written in does not make me develop an opinion on it
foggy veldt
Meh in some cases it does some cases it doesn’t
brave radish
a better thing to have said would have been "I don't get the difference between this and saying 'Imagine Hamlet written in French'"
foggy veldt
I wouldn’t want to wait for the jvm to spin up on my pacemaker
waxen panther
nova plume
brocc if you're tired
ive been up for like 72 hrs straight
doing hw for some stoopid teacher
i hate him so much
foggy veldt
Hate is a strong word
nova plume
yeah, and its justified
foggy veldt
D colon
golden gust
waxen panther
@ zzzcat
nova plume
3 allnighters back to back
golden gust
starts sending trippy gifs to the channel
brave radish
let's all move to #delicious-tacos
waxen panther
i cant cuz some stupid hecker gave me the anti-taco role
even though i love tacos 😡
golden gust
GFC
foggy veldt
Great Friday chat
golden gust
get fucked cu...
nova plume
i see
pulsar wigeon
cumber
waxen panther
Cucumber ?
golden gust
comes in drill mounted form
mental meadow
🥒
brave radish
is coreprotect trash?
limber knotBOT
The worst
golden gust
it's one of the better ones, not that there are many options
rare herald
Only other one worth trying IMO is prism
golden gust
whoever thought to name it that was also a moron
God, I hate the name of CoreProtect so much
novel horizon
I use CP and i hate few things, wanna soon switch to Prism
pulsar wigeon
it's closed source thus 🚮
waxen panther
true !
novel horizon
Prism or CP?
olive marlin
Yeah, I'm hopefully finally switching to Prism next month.
novel horizon
I don't care about it that much, it feels nicer to know that they're open source though
waxen panther
i've just got to convince staff to learn the new commands :p
brave radish
it's closed source thus 🚮
oh yeah that's why I didn't use it before
waxen panther
i'd love to switch
peak ginkgo
quick q what do we use that's not mcedit
need to paste a schematic
and mcedit is too old
olive marlin
Amulet?
nova plume
oh no
peak ginkgo
i can't get amulet to work
novel horizon
Yeah, I'm too switching sometime later, I kinda hate CP for some things that I'm experiencing, ew, also Prism seems nice and has a lot of nice commands CP misses
cunning raft
i hope everyone working on the coreprotect internal refactor are okay and not dead!
brave radish
WorldEdit?
cunning raft
it's sure been a while!
peak ginkgo
amulet shows the schematic in the map, and in game nothing
i've saved as many times possible
golden gust
novel horizon
lol i didnt knew it was from that
brave radish
I have never even heard of mcedit
novel horizon
nice 👍 zzzCat
golden gust
mfw
peak ginkgo
I have never even heard of mcedit
Are you like, less than 15 years of age
golden gust
Wow, is 81 year old
novel horizon
Yeah
brave radish
Are you like, less than 15 years of age
well my MC account is
novel horizon
I heard the version with the fat guy tho
Thought it was from him
And it is kinda 🤔 it's different lol
nova plume
why is it 81 years old
novel horizon
?
brave radish
I didn't use anything non-vanilla till like... 1.10ish?
novel horizon
Yeah mathematics 
nova plume
but why thou
novel horizon
what why
nova plume
why was it realeased in 1939
novel horizon
wtf
nova plume
idk what im talking about ok im high on coffee
novel horizon
it was released in 1939 because they made the movie around that time
rare herald
Yeah, I'm too switching sometime later, I kinda hate CP for some things that I'm...
What problems are you experiencing?
nova plume
idk what im talking about ok im high on coffee
||might have added some stuff to it but noone knows||
rare herald
Driving, brb
brave radish
#off-topic-important wen
novel horizon
what's important offtopic
nova plume
new channel suggestion
brave radish
yes
golden gust
#self-important-general
novel horizon
What problems are you experiencing?
Sometimes the CP is saying it's busy with database and such, sometimes it's actually even a minute, sometimes it's just normal and fast. I like that the Prism has more thing to choose from and search. I hate that CP doesn't allow some things and filters
golden gust
wait, I mean
sand shuttle
#cake
nova plume
much better
peak ginkgo
#self-entitlement-general
golden gust
The cake is a lie and you damned well know it
waxen panther
paper general
important
sand shuttle
The cake is a lie and you damned well know it
#cake when 😛
cunning raft
you what would be great
brave radish
not important, just also actual questions or discussion and not "hey, what's going on?"
cunning raft
if we could fix coreprotect
novel horizon
Does anyone here use CP? Bloodstone, u using it? Why are you switching for example? If u are here
cunning raft
but sadly
brave radish
What problems are you experiencing?
like this
cunning raft
no source
waxen panther
i use it
waxen panther
closed source = weirdchamp
novel horizon
Yeah as I said, it's like meh, but alright, it's not like I can edit anything and do anything I want, but it's nice to see it's open source and such
cunning raft
its also crazy how every time someone mentions coreprotect source everything goes silent
pulsar wigeon
it makes worldedit up to 100x slower too, not that i recommend regular use of WE on production anyway but
mental meadow
if we could fix coreprotect
if only there would be a way for other people to see your work and improve it or help catch errors and open requests to fix them so you could pull them in
novel horizon
But sometimes I find myself wondering why CP doesn't have this or that, or the DB thingy
pulsar wigeon
yes
novel horizon
aurora yeah, if 🙂
pulsar wigeon
as of last we checked/tested anyway
novel horizon
maybe someone will invent such thing
peak ginkgo
Even he knows its WorldEdit integration sux
pulsar wigeon
it does Material.valueOf on a block id substring on every single block set which causes some regex compilation
peak ginkgo
its like, labeled in the config
mental meadow
I think we abandoned CP support for FAWE a long time ago as well
brave radish
what a nice file name
waxen panther
no
novel horizon
Yeah it's weird that u can use those, it's quite some time tho
peak ginkgo
I imported the schematic in single player originally the entire thing was black
I moved it to my local paper server specifically for /paper fixlight lol
Amulet might have butchered the lighting
brave radish
why does this Discord go from crazy to silent with no in-between?
golden gust
because you people disgust me.
nova plume
why does this Discord go from crazy to silent with no in-between?
cos its papermc amirite
peak ginkgo
timed out my server running a big worldedit to remove barrier blocks
just gonna believe in my cpu and wait
nevermind
nova plume
lol
brave radish
how big was your region??
golden gust
you can get WE to tick the watchdog somehow
peak ginkgo
DeJayDev issued server command: //replacenear 1000 barrier air
--- DO NOT REPORT THIS TO PAPER - THIS IS NOT A BUG OR A CRASH - git-Paper-629 (MC: 1.16.5) ---
The server has not responded for 10 seconds! Creating thread dump
novel horizon
lol
worn ember
are you running on a potato?
peak ginkgo
no my computer is good :(
brave radish
FAWE?
novel horizon
fave lol
worn ember
//removenear barrier
peak ginkgo
wait what
novel horizon
i dont know why i said "fave"
worn ember
lul
peak ginkgo
this plugin has gotten good since i last used it sheeesh
golden gust
more optimal lookup
brave radish
leave
novel horizon
phew
golden gust
No idea specifically what it does, but, 1000 = 1000*256*1000
worn ember
yeetus deletus
brave radish
vote:
leave 👍
delete 👎
nova plume
vote:
leave 👍
delete 👎
for what
brave radish
the tree
nova plume
oh
peak ginkgo
@nova plume floating tree in the above pic
nova plume
i see
nova plume
thass a lot of badges
peak ginkgo
thanks my next one is gonna be
unkempt drift
Wow. Paying for discord badges
peak ginkgo
nova plume
i see
foggy veldt
<:staff:699078007192551444>
They’re changing it to 
waxen panther
TRUE
olive marlin
What problems are you experiencing?
My personal issues:
Filters not always working - some filter shows other transactions than others, despite the fact that both should show certain ones
Undocumented and quite weird db schema - tried to do more complex search on db, ended up just having CP dump partially filtered logs to console and then parse the stdout
Often doesn't revert some transactions - need to revert, undo, and revert again.
Missing some things it logs.
Can't handle bigger restores well - stales the main thread. But I never checked if Prism solves this somehow.
CoreProtect is nice, but if there are open source and better alternatives, I'm switching :)
worn ember
waxen panther
smile emoji
foggy veldt
My personal issues:
Filters not always working - some filter shows other transac...
Which alternatives if you don’t mind
waxen panther
prism
foggy veldt
Oh I thought that was dead
olive marlin
Nope, someone picked it up.
rare herald
Sometimes the CP is saying it's busy with database and such, sometimes it's actu...
Are you using SQLite? Database stuff can be a bit... finicky, with SQLite, one of the reasons Prism dropped support for it I believe.
I agree more filters is a good thing, v19 added a few new ones.
novel horizon
no, I use MariaDB
I don't have a small db tho
You develop it then? Yeah I miss some filters, Prism has quite a lot of them and it looked pretty nice
rare herald
My personal issues:
Filters not always working - some filter shows other transac...
If there are specific filter issues, bug reports are appreciated so they can be addressed. Same for any other unexpected behaviour.
For rollbacks, it loads data that needs to be changed async, sorts it out per-chunk, and then applies changes one chunk at a time. So you really shouldn't be having any server hangs.
cunning raft
bro its crazy
novel horizon
It happened multiple times that I was missing few filters and it made the look for something harder, unfortunately. But also that DB thing is weird, sometimes I click on blocks and in like 99% it's instant, but sometimes CP just says database is busy and it takes even half a minute and I must wait
cunning raft
you know there must be something wrong with discord
anytime i say "source code" i think people can't see my messages
nova plume
ignores it completely
changes topic
i think fabric is better than forge
||quiltmc best tho||
runs
potent fossil
the fuck is quiltmc
cunning raft
fabric
sand shuttle
^
cunning raft
drama happened in fabric
potent fossil
lul
rare herald
It happened multiple times that I was missing few filters and it made the look f...
Not sure offhand for that, I'm assuming your database is local?
I'm sure there's something going wrong somewhere, but issues that can't be easily replicated are a PITA to troubleshoot.
waxen panther
fabric finally imploded
nova plume
potent fossil
lmao
novel horizon
Not sure offhand for that, I'm assuming your database is local?
I'm sure there'...
Yeah, it's local, there's multiple connections to the DB. Is it that the CP doesn't have that good performance with bigger DB or so?
cunning raft
this mf
nova plume
what have i started
cunning raft
if i get donowalled one more time
formal turret
oh, my message didn't send
cunning raft
you don't want to know
waxen panther
its sulu !
potent fossil
Nothing, we're just using paper general as CoreProtect ™️ Support while also having unrelated convos
waxen panther
if i get donowalled one more time
potent fossil
So lots of people talking
olive marlin
If there are specific filter issues, bug reports are appreciated so they can be ...
I got the watchdog to kick in when rolling back a few hundred chunks when I had low mspt before that.
I can reproduce the filter issue on my data, can't reproduce the data itself. Can't look in the code easily to also pinpoint the issue. So best I can is show 2 queries which should return the same transaction but don't, so idk.
novel horizon
Rollbacking few hundred chunks? Like thousands of blocks radius or.. ?
foggy veldt
Forge devs went to fabric to escape forge drama, fabric devs are going to quilt to escape fabric drama, I wonder what the next one will be called
rare herald
@novel horizon Going to DM you. @olive marlin If you want to discuss this further, please feel free to DM me also.
olive marlin
Nah, few hundred chunks total.
foggy veldt
Blanket
cunning raft
<@!207878545727291392> Going to DM you. <@!209234044657991680> If you want to di...
please feel free to DM me about the upcomming plans for opensourcing coreprotect
olive marlin
I'm off to bed, it's late.
novel horizon
<@!207878545727291392> Going to DM you. <@!209234044657991680> If you want to di...
Sure, why not, I don't mind 🙂
foggy veldt
Open sourcing is cool and all but trying to force someone to open source is bleh
Just don’t use project 
waxen panther
weebs dont have opinions sorry
cunning raft
ikr forcing someone to comply with a legally binding license
waxen panther
including myself
cunning raft
that's crazy!
novel horizon
Some people may not like that you look at someones code, my code reeee don't tell me how to optimize it
foggy veldt
Oh I didn’t realize there was a licensing issue
cunning raft
yeah it is
vestal jasper
Open sourcing is cool and all but trying to force someone to open source is bleh
Except you're kinda obligated to provide source to those who have the binary
cunning raft
if you're distributing a plugin you must provide source code upon request
vestal jasper
By law afaik
cunning raft
correct
vestal jasper
waxen panther
aroauwroua do be typing
cunning raft
@rare herald idk if you missed my message bro discord straight up buggin today fr fr 😂
novel horizon
Prism looks nice tho, so I'm gonna try it for sure. Like I tried it a few times a bit, but only how it works, not on server for a long time
Hey people who use CP, how big is your database? 😄
vestal jasper
Jroy I think that's the cringiest thing I've seen you say lol. Congrats.
mental meadow
We all know that unless someone starts enforcing that it doesn't matter. But i don't feel like this is the right place to discuss this
cunning raft
discord must be buggin straight out the wAZZO today vic!
vestal jasper
The community can enforce it
mental meadow
And it definitely isn't the right place to try to force someone to open source their work
olive marlin
Hey people who use CP, how big is your database? 😄
I think it's only 50GB rn, having an emptier server cause busy.
potent fossil
Lmao so when someone comes here with CO problems and asks for alternatives, the channel becomes CO dedicated support. But as soon as we give an alternative with an actual huge pro of having source available, it's no longer ok 😎
novel horizon
Nah it's fine, idk who has offering alternative, I just was talking I tried Prism and it looked great etc 😄
I don't mind if someone trying to make better their thing
potent fossil
oh ok so fabric bad quilt good
waxen panther
yos
potent fossil
understood
nova plume
What’s the ETA for quilt tho
vestal jasper
Pretty much
novel horizon
i like fabric
nova plume
And will mods switch
novel horizon
we'll see what's quilt later
formal turret
they should've done it months ago instead of trying to boot out the head guy
lol months of threats and then they finally do it
nova plume
Someone summarise what the drama was in fabric
nova plume
they should've done it months ago instead of trying to boot out the head guy
Or is it just this
mental meadow
kashike did not have enough projects already
formal turret
if you want the extremely summarised birth of quilt, it's that they didn't want the head guy moderating the discord anymore and he wouldn't give it up
nova plume
Is he part of it too?
nova plume
if you want the extremely summarised birth of quilt, it's that they didn't want ...
Ight ok good enough for me
potent fossil
kash was here at the beginning of the universe and he will be here at its demise and he will be here long after, holding the keys to all the great minecraft projects, waiting....waiting for the next dawn of life so that he can infiltrate once again and lead them all
nova plume
Of this channel?
mental meadow
nova plume
Yeah lol saw that too
nova plume
Of this channel?
Then asked this
mental meadow
Mh i have to Update it to the new Avatar i guess
nova plume
I’ve always thought what the context of that was
I thought quiltmc was a recent thing (like a month) when someone started talking about it in the spigotmc server
peak ginkgo
i got something
foggy veldt
Kashike has his toes in sponge, paper, and now the alleged fabric replacement. Three projects, three sides of a triangle
formal turret
it is, the people who are making it just finally followed through on their threats and made their own project
mental meadow
Kashike has his toes in sponge, paper, and now the alleged fabric replacement. T...
You're forgetting quite a lot
foggy veldt
I was going for mc server implementations, there’s more? :o
potent fossil
as I said, it's all kashike. it always has been, it always will be
and when the simulation resets...
potent fossil
it will be again
peak ginkgo
This is what I was given
mental meadow
I was going for mc server implementations, there’s more? :o
nova plume
Didnt know it was that significant
peak ginkgo
yeah its huge
peak ginkgo
Forge, Paper, Mojira, Sponge, Lilypad(?), MCDevs, Adventure, Essentials, MOSS, Velocity, yarn(?)
what are the others
fuck
foggy veldt
Kyori has best logo
peak ginkgo
just the person to answer it, thanks
nova plume
Kashike has big brain
mental meadow
Korobi, waterfall
waxen panther
me and da boys waiting for the kaoaki logo
cosmic raft
herocraft forge mcmmo kittehorg almuradev papermc
github-beta destroystokyo mojira spongepowered korobi handmadehero
waterfallmc aquifermc tenjava minecraft-dev kyoripowered essentialsx
minecraftoss velocity quiltmc kaoaki
mental meadow
It's easier to list projects you aren't a part of kash
cosmic raft
spigotmc
mental meadow
You're pretty epic
waxen panther
lol
cedar spade
cosmic raft
aquifer is where the paper forums used to live
back when waterfall was not a papermc project
nova plume
Still can’t believe modmuss left fabric
cosmic raft
me and da boys waiting for the kaoaki logo
hm?
formal turret
pretty sure he didn't, still see github activity from him
nova plume
Kashike is there a rough eta for quilt?
formal turret
i think he's just not in the discord
mental meadow
karaoki
waxen panther
did i spell it wrong
nova plume
Ight ok
nova plume
Lol
mental meadow
can you make open source karaoke software with kaoaki/karaoki?
cosmic raft
@waxen panther 
waxen panther
🇸 🇩 🇱
cosmic raft
wat
cosmic raft
cosmic raft
@cedar spade will help you find your mind again
waxen panther
yes md help
golden gust
fabric fork
worn ember
kek
sand shuttle
fabric had some drama
worn ember
what else is new
waxen panther
deds plugins working
worn ember
im taking a break lol
sand shuttle
If i had the github gist up I'd post a link, however trying to run a local hangar instance is killing my PC
waxen panther
thank you snoopa
worn ember
brocc nab
waxen panther
nab ?
worn ember
i mean, its still supposed to be a webservice
waxen panther
ded is kinda dumb just ignore him
worn ember
should run on a potato
nova plume
If i had the github gist up I'd post a link, however trying to run a local hanga...
Why is there a hashtag
sand shuttle
i mean, technically it runs...docker setup is murdering it to death 🤣
worn ember
yeah docker is kinda meh
spiral robin
@peak ginkgo 
sand shuttle
would help if i had newer hardware 😛
sand shuttle
I use docker literally only for grafana and influxdb 🤣
novel horizon
Aikar's steak must be really good, he's powered by it for quite a long time now
twin lagoon
rare herald
Last message on April 13th, he might be running low
mighty storm
alright yall imma head out, good talkin with yall
novel horizon
👋
brave radish
So today I got iOS 14.5, and then I went to send this screenshot:
I had to hit "try again" four times
rare herald
iMessage threading is great except for two things:
- Tapping an old message in a thread doesn't take you back to it.
- Doesn't show the date of old messages, just the time.
brave radish
I'm not even using iMessage
twin lagoon
imessage 
rare herald
I'm not even using iMessage
Better than it saying it sent and the other person not receiving it 😬
brave radish
It still exists, ya know 😆
mighty storm
Better than it saying it sent and the other person not receiving it 😬
this probably means they have another device that did get it
like in my case this computer will always get it even when I my not
twin lagoon
i have never seen a single person use SMS for anything other than receiving verification messages
mighty storm
sms (shaking my uhhhh screen?)
brave radish
You don't talk to Androids?
waxen panther
ew god no
twin lagoon
i have an android
waxen panther
never 😷
mighty storm
so you never text anyone?
brave radish
i have an android
MMS only?
twin lagoon
everyone just uses a messaging app
rare herald
^
mighty storm
yeah see thats fair
twin lagoon
telegram, whatsapp, signal, whatever
brave radish
Imma start using iMessage
rare herald
Everyone's favourite, Facebook Messenger
brave radish
SMS doesn't work anymore on iOS
twin lagoon
thank fuck that's not a thing here
mighty storm
imessage pretty cool, you can send games to people
twin lagoon
have seen it a bit in asia though
mighty storm
what other platforms can you do that on? cant name any
twin lagoon
but in asia you've got Line & Kakao (korea) aswell
sand shuttle
literally can't run hangar on this pc 🤣
waxen panther
SMS doesn't work anymore on iOS
?
rare herald
what other platforms can you do that on? cant name any
MSN Messenger had games
mighty storm
u wot mate
brave radish
what other platforms can you do that on? cant name any
everything. It's called a hyperlink
mighty storm
bro hyperlinks just send you somewhere
waxen panther
seems like a you problem
mighty storm
i think ur internet just sucks
waxen panther
mine is fine 😀
mighty storm
who needs sms anymore when you have Yubikey 😤
brave radish
seems like a you problem
and you live where? Germany?
waxen panther
england
brave radish
ah
US
this happens to everyone in my area
I'm sure not the whole country
but still not just me
waxen panther
doesnt sound like an apple problem then
brave radish
Well it worked in iOS 13...
brave radish
and if it's not an Apple problem, why did they say the fixed it three times?
rare herald
I'll do a test for you and send an SMS to someone
brave radish
I'll do a test for you and send an SMS to someone
Well it's not all the time
just a lot of it
Like if I have a conversation for an hour and it works then it works
mighty storm
my 10 most recent unknown senders:
- trump endorsing someone who cares
- some mayor wanting me to vote for them
- Github sponsors code
- coinbase 2fa changed notice
- see # 2
- uber veri code
- spam
- spam
- some political thing
- github auth code
brave radish
but then if I pick is up after not using it sometimes it doens't
waxen panther
their fixes pertained to threads which aren't even available on sms....
rare herald
ah
brave radish
their fixes pertained to threads which aren't even available on sms....
not all of them
(all of the fixes)
waxen panther
i've seen two
brave radish
also not entirely sure what "threads" meant there
that could've just mean "text chain"
mighty storm
threads
brave radish
and you know this how?
rare herald
I don't doubt it, I've had some SMS issues in the past myself
I'm not sure how many of them directly pertain to iOS though, or just the mobile providers having their own issues
mighty storm
it says so
waxen panther
man
novel horizon
this is threads ofc
