#general
mystic siren
mental meadow
let's just say the name fits the project
novel horizon
kinda
golden gust
if only we'd have discovered that over the year those projects are trash
waxen panther
🙂
worn ember
🙂
mental meadow
honestly who isn't enjoying gura at this point
mystic siren
I wish there was a way to make a paper version
left swift
🙁
spare venture
brocc why are you not helpful
worn ember
tf is a gura?
warm anchor
True
spare venture
who knows ded
worn ember
.g gura
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Tona-Gura! Tona-Gura! is a Japanese romantic comedy manga written and illustrated by Hidetaka Kakei. (https://duckduckgo.com/Tona-Gura!?v=i&kp=1)
mental meadow
.g gawr gura
spare venture
ah weeb stuff
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Gawr_Gura
worn ember
oh god
warm anchor
2nd highest Vtuber rn after aichan
waxen panther
brocc why are you not helpful
jroy named me ☹️
golden gust
I wish she'd release a mouse pad
warm anchor
Who’s gonna get 3 million sub first
spare venture
so rude
waxen panther
.g haachama
golden gust
wouldn't sell much though, tbqh
novel horizon
😦
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Akai_Haato
left swift
Glue Umbrella Red Anchor
spare venture
I have met my weeb quota for the day
warm anchor
Hachama chama
spare venture
pls stop
worn ember
just google boobs if you want boobs smh
waxen panther
warm anchor
novel horizon
another thing on ptero dis 🙂
spare venture
2D boobs tho ded
novel horizon
pls make it more free
golden gust
CPU GO BRRRR
waxen panther
left swift
dead meme cat
mental meadow
see thats the thing about gura, nobody loves her for her boobs
golden gust
what boobs?
novel horizon
why wont the staff install everything for me 😠
worn ember
@spare venture good thing ram is cheap for the modpack i'm playing
spare venture
lmfao wtf
novel horizon
aikar should personally come to my house and help me set my mc server, definitely
warm anchor
Gotta be hydrodynamic
spare venture
why did you give it that much
left swift
Loli anime 
spare venture
forge 
novel horizon
mods ❤️
spare venture
ded what’s ip
warm anchor
Ded gonna make an rtp for forge now??
spare venture
left swift
SpongeRTP
novel horizon
I use FTBUtilities and such for forge, its awesome
worn ember
ded what’s ip
do you even have atm3?
spare venture
Ass to mouth 3?
warm anchor
Wait ded you made the modded server?
left swift
local and such
spare venture
what is atm
left swift
ass to mom
warm anchor
Lol
spare venture
oh lawd
olive marlin
All The Mods?
worn ember
spare venture
Ahh
spare venture
Those kitchen sink modpacks kinda suck tbh
left swift
ur a kitchen sink
left swift
@ mods
brave radish
imagine modding Minecraft
brave radish
the only acceptable mods can be done server side 🙂
novel horizon
ew
mental meadow
this is a Genshin Impact community
novel horizon
genshin phew
golden gust
glares at aurora
spare venture
yes
mental meadow
should've told your mother that
warm anchor
How you like the game so far aurororororra
left swift
we have the technology cat
warm anchor
New patch coming next week 
mental meadow
i haven't played since then xD
warm anchor
Ohh 
spare venture
That’s weeb game right
novel horizon
yup exactly
novel horizon
noone else can play it
spare venture
Damn I don’t have a weeb card
fallen oracle
For a second there, I thought Cat was talking about me but then I realized he didn't say "Glärés at aurora"
spare venture
upper flicker
Glärés at Gläré
left swift
novel horizon
spare venture
mental meadow
is it just me or is party especially annoying today?
spare venture
it’s you
warm anchor
No that’s just party everyday
mental meadow
ah good to know
warm anchor
novel horizon
idk im not here everyday
left swift
patty is always annoying
spare venture
Just stop aurora
left swift
novel horizon
should go to sleep damn in the morning dentist
better dentist tho than some problems with teeth 🙂
left swift
init
golden gust
teeth issues are like, our thing
untold meadow
despite the uk having a better standard of dental care than the uk
golden gust
I got one tooth which I chipped off a good chunk when I first got an electric toothbrush
mental meadow
despite the uk having a better standard of dental care than the uk
ah yes
novel horizon
lol
untold meadow
THE US
fallen oracle
Is that why they call you zzzCat cause your toothbrush goes zzzzzz?
untold meadow
THE US I MEANT
novel horizon
my teeth broke a bit and then the filling came out too
golden gust
I'm dreading the dentist but I defo wanna go there when I can afford it
novel horizon
so she drilled it and she's gonna put the thing there, idk the name in english and after that the teeth, crown probably in english too
yeah
she was talking how i wanna fix it, there's some cheap options too
i said ceramic teeth because u use them everyday, so, and you shouldnt cheap out on such things lol
golden gust
I mean, I think that the tooth thing is sorta like a culture thing
novel horizon
or more lik tooth, not teeth 🙂
golden gust
Like, over in the UK, teeth are teeth, they do muchin'
left swift
brush ur teeth cat
golden gust
Not from where I am
untold meadow
left swift
floss
novel horizon
US damn
golden gust
But, like, over here, there used to not be a huge "gotta have tv star teeth", whereas in the states that seems to be more of a care
novel horizon
I kinda wouldn't want to live in us
untold meadow
they shave teeth the the us
left swift
no one does
untold meadow
that shit just weirds me out
golden gust
part of me wishes I did live in the US, part of me is glad that I don't
novel horizon
best reading experience 🙂
golden gust
I think retiring in the states would be nice
novel horizon
maybe
left swift
yeah the elderly care in the US is only the best in the world
left swift
definitely no malpractice or neglect in retirement homes
left swift
u mean northern US
novel horizon
NA, maybe
left swift
same thing
novel horizon
sure 👀
tribal flicker
@fallen oracle Thank you so much for what you did with rewards pro man, I legit stopped updating paper due to it, highly appreciate it
fallen oracle
Glad I could help! I assume it worked?
tribal flicker
It has yes 🙂
A use dmed me about it since we were dicussing, I haven't tested it myself yet
fallen oracle
Awesome! Yeah, idk if the dev is MIA or what but I figured I'd leave that there so people would stop having to choose that over an updated server jar.
golden gust
reasons depending on closed source crud is just dumb, especially with "premium" devs these days
fallen oracle
- He's shading his own version of the connector into his API jar
- The regular jar is obfuscated
- Neither regular or premium has been updated since a year ago
- I saw no active messages from him in his support Discord
Was just lucky enough that it could be fixed with a simple bytecode modification.
left swift
olive marlin
I know git has subtrees and submodules for handling multiple repos in one, but for me submodules are too separated and subtrees are too integrated.
Is there something else that I missed?
I need to be able to create separate commits per directory (hence submodules kinda win), but want to keep the data on separate branches in the same repo, without cloning it for each directory (so more subtree like).
Hmm, unless I'd do it on local worktrees and have a main branch, to which I'd cherry-pick commits I want to add, but all work would be done on a work branch, which I can merge with main every so often.
This is becoming more cursed than I'd want lol
vernal moth
What is your usecase? Maybe somebody can think of an entirely different approach
Also: mono repos suck ass
olive marlin
I want to store config files, without password, in git. For multiple containerized services. Sometimes, the config might be modified during runtime (though deciding if I want to handle it or just dismiss the config change). I want to be able to pull changes for each service independently.
My current idea is store docker-compose and the management script in the root of repo, everything else goes in ./config/<service_name>.
I want to substitute placeholders for secrets, I do so and commit that change. Then, if I want to update main branch with changes, I commit the changes, then revert the commit substituting placeholders for secrets and squash them into single commit and then publish.
olive marlin
Michale, I'm NOT going to run k8s for this shit. And still, doesn't solve me wanting to have rest of config file accessible in git.
magic river
This is what things like dotenv are for, I think
olive marlin
Yes. If I didn't need to patch apps for it, I'd do it.
magic river
You stick an example.env in with values that are safe to share and dummy values for secrets
golden gust
This is an issue which nobody has really solved yet
magic river
Oh, you want to have secrets for arbitrary applications with their own config systems
Yeah, you're fucked 😛
olive marlin
Yes, that's the issue.
magic river
Write a thing that uses dotenv and writes out whatever those apps want
olive marlin
And I fucked myself by wanting to have it independent from each other.
golden gust
create a wrapper script which copies the config file, replaces stuff from the ENV and then dumps it in place for the app?
think that's generally the best you're gonna get, tbqh
not 100% sure on what I'd recommend there, but, eeer...
olive marlin
I did that, works fine for most part. There's 2 issues - turns out some files need ${} placeholders, so envsubst won't work.
So I'm rewriting it to python to use jinja2.
olive marlin
Yeah, I use it. Still doesn't solve the issue here.
And the issue of being able to modify and commit/pull config independently..
magic river
It solves the issue of envsubst, I'd think
olive marlin
No. It only loads the env vars.
magic river
But I guess I don't know what you mean by independently
olive marlin
I use it to load the variables, that later the script could use to perform replacement.
magic river
I guess I don't understand what you're trying to do
This works for me, dotenv to load them, find/replace to put them in
Although I mostly only worry about things I write where I can just use dotenv natively, the rest of our stack (postgres and such) is someone else's problem
Unless it's extremely simple writing your own solution is almost certainly the wrong answer
olive marlin
I have this POC and it works fine: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/119c506bde224be48831c1914279cbc9
But does everything in ./config at once.
Let's say you have multiple MC servers. You want to store their config in git without secrets, in a way that allows you to restart only one server when you update it config, without touching others.
I'm having a similar issue here.
twin lagoon
the fuck there's constants in bash
olive marlin
Kinda thinking I'll end up with crap ton of submodules.
olive marlin
the fuck there's constants in bash
There's hash maps in bash 
magic river
Make it less generic, write a new slightly modified version of this script for each thing you need to manage
twin lagoon
what
olive marlin
There's a lot things in bash. Just most people don't use them.
twin lagoon
probably because people don't know about them
magic river
Because they aren't in POSIX, are buggy, or aren't in bash 3 which is what most bash users have
olive marlin
Bash is stringy-typed, but a lot more powerful than you think.
magic river
Or are buggy in bash 3
magic river
Do you use bash 3.2.57?
twin lagoon
debian is at 5.0 
magic river
3.2.57 is the last GPLv2 release
olive marlin
I use multiple versions - have bash 5 on pc, but idk what servers use. I make it work everywhere.
magic river
Most non-trivial uses of bashisms I've seen depend on bash 4
Perhaps that's just because people assume if you are okay with using bash you're okay with using one from the last decade
olive marlin
Apparently associative arrays are one of those things.
olive marlin
the fuck there's constants in bash
There's one thing that sucks - local scope leaks to functions called. So if you have:
touch_file() {
local -r file="${1}" # error: file variable is readonly
touch "${file}"
}
touch_and_cat_file() {
local -r file="${1}" # declared readonly
touch_file "${file}"
cat "${file}"
}
bash was a mistake
olive marlin
Computers were a mistake.
prime pawn
Is there some sort of plugin where players have a 2% chance of obtaining an emerald when mining a list of blocks?
formal turret
Could do it with a data pack I guess
Dobt know of any plugins off the top of my head
No idea if it's any good, just the first thing I found
prime pawn
Looks alright, cheers
ancient bolt
Hope you're happy now @magic river
magic river
😂
twin lagoon
those are solid usb sticks
mental meadow
Imagine using USB Sticks in 2021
mossy vessel
I'm afraid I lose such small usb sticks
mental meadow
I have one on my keychain but tbh i don't even know what's on there? I think an arch iso or smth
native wolf
Imagine using USB Sticks in 2021
They are still useful tho
mossy vessel
Imagine not having your yubikey on your keychain
worn ember
imagine using keys and not implants
mossy vessel
Yet I'm desperately waiting on some updates to the Bio one
golden gust
I wonder how many of us like techies are holding out on the covid vaccine for health reasons or whatever
but, are just like, "i'd have an implant for dealing with authentication"
worn ember
5
mossy vessel
Not like the latter would be bad
golden gust
(meanwhile) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pentagon-covid-microchip-blood-virus-b1830372.html
mossy vessel
I wouldn't hesitate to chop of your arm to get into your apartment
worn ember
implying you're connected to an external pump thats keeping your alive
golden gust
implying I'm alive
wow
either way, anybody wanna go to the cemetary with me
crack open a cold one
mental meadow
Imagine not having your yubikey on your keychain
Is a Yubikey worth it?
unkempt drift
a cementary
native wolf
Lmao
mossy vessel
Is a Yubikey worth it?
Depends where you are using it for, but since GitHub prefers hardware authentication tools over passwords already
worn ember
i never get that
well i do get the oauth thingy
ig it depends on what you have configured
mossy vessel
Welp, if you did not set up hardware authentication devices, you obviously do not get this screen.
worn ember
exactly 
mossy vessel
Yet they cover a plenty of tools, and many I use on a daily base so it was worth it for me
mental meadow
Fuck why are they so expensive
merry talon
I'm too worried about losing those things
ancient bolt
honestly the hard part will be to find reasons to use usb drives
mental meadow
50€ for a USB stick smh
ancient bolt
I wish github supported authy's push notification thingy that twitch does
where it just asks you if you just logged in and you press yes
same as how google auth works
true canyon
Those devices are 50 dollars more than I want to pay for such convenience and security.
ancient bolt
I don't consider sticking a USB drive into your computer to log in very convenient tbh
merry talon
I don't like that sort of system until it gets standardized
Otherwise you need a different app for each service
ancient bolt
yeah i have steam auth, battle.net auth, google auth is built into my phone, and authy for twitch, all do the same thing lmao
mental meadow
I do like the idea, like a physical key, but I'd really prefer something that i just have on me and just locks my PC when I'm not at it and unlocks it when I come back
merry talon
yep
mossy vessel
I got aware of them a few years ago when we introduced them at my old work
ancient bolt
in fairness for battle.net they were like the first mainstream 2FA app, predating google authenticator
but the rest of them, like come on
merry talon
Yeah they had a physical device lol
ancient bolt
at least with authy it's an app designed to support multiple logins, just support their system
mental meadow
Nmf i think because you're not renewing my intellij subscription you should at least sponsor me a Yubikey
ancient bolt
yeah battle.net was doing 2FA way before it was cool, literally WoW had better security than most banks today still have
mossy vessel
Nmf i think because you're not renewing my intellij subscription you should at l...
Deal.
I got a plenty left from work.
warm anchor
Tbh someone’s wow account probably worth more than most people bakk
If they see Dedicsted
ancient bolt
if you contribute to mcdev enough to get me to add you to the dev team you get intellij for free
mental meadow
Nice
merry talon
my bank only supports a 6 digit pin and security questions 🙃
ancient bolt
all products pack for free, that is
mossy vessel
Tho said, I solely use them for work, the github one was more for testing purposes in private fields.
mental meadow
if you contribute to mcdev enough to get me to add you to the dev team you get i...
I contribute to Paper, does that count? :D
mossy vessel
Could also use the EAP version
merry talon
paper should acquire it
mossy vessel
Yet I am not sure what I get out of the deal 
mossy vessel
Not worth it
golden gust
I'll give you a dime, a buck and fu.. nvm
merry talon
only if you accept safemoon
ancient bolt
can I put mcdev on NFT?
merry talon
oh god
ancient bolt
or turn it into a NFT, idk the right terminology
merry talon
probably
ancient bolt
Laina, the girl behind the Overly Attached Girlfriend meme, sold the OAG meme image on NFT for like half a million on april fools
but the money is real so yeah
native wolf
That's crazy
ancient bolt
one could make an argument that it might be a fair payment for how much her likeness was used around the internet etc etc, idk, I don't really care, I think it's funny that some rich motherfucker was willing to spend that much money for a fucking meme image
woven otter
im always surprised how many people get rich because of something related to crypto
merry talon
hopefully the same type to blow it all in a weekend
I'm happy for the people that got in on GME though
worn ember
who needs materialistic stuff if you got a brain the size of a bus
left swift
waxen panther
.java11
limber knotBOT
Follow the guides for how to update to Java 11 here: https://gist.github.com/Proximyst/67615353e2575a71faaff3f7ae9cc2b4
brave radish
Is there a way to make Discord send emails for replies that ping?
waxen panther
no
worn ember
lol
worn ember
use a forum if you want that
wraith trail
not on this account though, only on ones I don't check in forever
brave radish
I get them for @brave radish and when I set a channel to ping on every message, but not when someone replies with ping on
brave radish
use a forum if you want that
I mean that I get emails when someone pings me and I'm not online
potent fossil
Yeah, it'll do it if you're not logged in.
If you're logged in, you get a ping in-app.
There's no way to configure it afaik.
potent fossil
Actually, yeah, it might not be "just logged out". It might be "logged out for a few days"
brave radish
No bc there have been times (like today) that I got an email for a real ping but not one for a reply ping in the same timeframe
peak ginkgo
Is there a way to make Discord send emails for replies that ping?
Make an account and never log into the mobile app with it.
Discord will send you email notifications.
Friend requests, pings, messages
brave radish
Like earlier today I logged out and got an email for three messages sent in Tuinity's #starlight-support, but didn't get an email for someone who @'d me in a reply in #paper-help
And I've never gotten emails for ping replies
warm anchor
Discord notification is very weird
It gets even more weird if you have multiple account logged in at the same time
brave radish
I don't even wanna know
warm anchor
Like DM is generally delayed about 5 minute on notification to mobile
wraith trail
It gets even more weird if you have multiple account logged in at the same time
does the app allow this?
warm anchor
Yeah I am online 24/7 because of this sulu lol
potent fossil
my phone allows you to install two separate apps for that purpose, didnt know app itself has that capability tho
wraith trail
idk if i'm dumb but I can't find anything about this
warm anchor
I think it will work
potent fossil
my phone allows you to install two separate apps for that purpose, didnt know ap...
This is to say, I can install Discord twice
brave radish
OS? not ClearOS, is it? 😆
warm anchor
I know PC and mobile can be logged n same time and multiple PC instance too
potent fossil
Oh wait, nope. Gotta backpedal. Discord doesn't support it.
But it's just Samsung's regular OS. It's a feature called Dual Messenger.
brave radish
I know PC and mobile can be logged n same time and multiple PC instance too
instance
oh yeah... people use the app on computers
warm anchor
Is that the right word to call it
brave radish
I just forgot it existed lol
I mean unless you were referring to tabs as instances but I would assume not
potent fossil
Ok apparently you can do it. Samsung has "Secure Folder" where you can install Discord again if you want to
Little bit less convenient than dual messenger though
warm anchor
I mean if the goal is to get notifications from two different discord account
Worth a try
potent fossil
Name is a bit misleading. It's a full sandboxed area of the phone. Not just a folder.
brave radish
*cries over the death of the Ubuntu phone*
waxen panther
waiting for the Void phone
potent fossil
I would have quite liked to try ubuntu phone
brave radish
there is a fork that survived
but it only runs on like 22 devices or something
58
potent fossil
They had that thing where if you plugged it in you could get a full ubuntu desktop right?
brave radish
potent fossil
Samsung has something like that called DeX, but I don't use it
brave radish
They had that thing where if you plugged it in you could get a full ubuntu deskt...
not sure what you're talking about there; didn't hear of that
potent fossil
Must be thinking of something else
brave radish
I've used it once on a Pi (yes, they ported Ubuntu to a phone and then phone Ubuntu back to a computer) and that's it
potent fossil
Yeah ubuntu touch has a desktop mode
im sorry for the horrible video lol but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT1VP9m-DkQ
slightly better vid, but still no screenrecorder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wImj5A2sI6E
not quite a 'full ubuntu desktop' but it's close. looks like samsung DeX
potent fossil
👀
brave radish
I mean it has the same processor as the macs and they have that keyboard thingy that pretty much makes it into a laptop
it pretty much is a laptop just with a lighter OS
and therefore less power
brave radish
They did run macOS on the A12Z from an old iPad
golden gust
Things like ubuntu touch looked interesting on the surface, but, generally, eeerrr....
Like, they where never really refined
and things like the pine phone is the clonest to supported stuff afaik
brave radish
yeah unfortunately Canonical dropped Ubuntu Touch
golden gust
but, basically, it seems that it's generally lacking, you're basically in a desktop env on a device the size of a phone for the most part
I just don't think it's entirely all that viable as an option really, not unless you can make that split between the two and still have a justifiyable ecosystem
Issue is that they fall into the same trap is microsoft phone did, and blackberry
brave radish
that Clear phone thingy looked kinda nice but not nice enough for me to get it
golden gust
No apps, and when they did finally offer a proper solution for it, the major players where already heavily backing iOS and Android
brave radish
but, basically, it seems that it's generally lacking, you're basically in a desk...
kinda what I want lol
in fact what I just asked for on an iPad
my terminal doesn't need to be big
cat what's your Linux distro of choice? Arch?
waxen panther
void !
golden gust
Like, it's nice to get minimal environments where you just wanna shove i3 in there, but, that thing is a fucking POS at times
wraith trail
probably seen a lot but found this just last week https://bedrocklinux.org/
basically yatopia + linux
merry talon
the ipad pro is literally just a macbook without the keyboard now
brave radish
basically yatopia + linux
oh at first I thought you meant it was something like MineOS
Let's make a Linux distro tailored specifically for yatopia
Mint Cinnamon seems to be the only really viable Desktop option if you can't use a terminal
GNOME tries but... no
golden gust
I find that *nix DEs have really down hill over the years
wraith trail
switched to sway in september as I had basically been using gnome as a tiling desktop
wraith trail
mostly super nice but kinda miss the seamlessness of parts of gnome
golden gust
It's kinda why I like i3, but, I hardly use linux enough to remember all the key combos once I get back to it so much so that it's a royal PITA
brave radish
Kubuntu has a nice spotlight replica for Mac users
golden gust
and, yea, that's the horrors is tryna find something nice, seamless and minimal without spending weeks working on it
KDE is meh
I mean, I kinda hate spotlight, ngl
it's the one part of macOS which I don't get
I mean, launchpad
not spotlight
brave radish
I can't use a Mac without spotlight
wraith trail
better than what windows has
brave radish
I literally use spotlight just to switch windows
golden gust
low bars and all
I mean, am used to cmd-tab still, works just fine
most of the time am bouncing between two apps anyways
brave radish
hm
let me clarify
I don't only use it to switch windows
I use it just to switch windows as in something that simple
golden gust
I just find that alfred works faster at finding stuff and is generally just smoother, and, spotify worksheet is nice too
brave radish
They took launchpad off of the f4 key on the new Magic Keyboard
Replaced with Spotlight
waxen panther
rofi 😳
golden gust
I'm glad that the new iMacs are fiiiiinally getting apple ID
brave radish
*touch
golden gust
And, well, as I said, alfred > spotlight, but, I mean, probs nicer to have spotlight vs launchpad
Like, it's the whole windows 8 thing again
"lets shove a UI optimised for touch screens onto a desktop"
brave radish
lol
golden gust
I guess for most people they don't care as safari or whatever is in the dock
but, god fucking damn it
brave radish
yeah Windows 8 was by far the worst OS I've ever used
golden gust
then again, idrk how you create a pretty app launcher
brave radish
yeah Windows 8 was by far the worst OS I've ever used
I honestly prefer the UI of Windows XP
golden gust
XP was solid af
brave radish
Like... the mouse moved... that's more then a modern Windows system can say
certainly more then 7
golden gust
and upates where really fast once they fixed the log^n update algo
right... at the end of... it's life...
limpid comet
golden gust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW7Rqwwth84 | reminds me of this classic
warm anchor
golden gust
The thing with like 98 and XP is that they had issues at first, but, become solid AF after a while
Vista was great too once they fixed it, but, it was such a bad release and they spec'd the min requirements for it far too low that most release hardware people actually bought was kinda shitty
brave radish
gah
why do TVs have to be smart?
I would honestly I have paid $20 more then what I paid for my TV to have it be dumb
potent fossil
cuz ppl are stupid
wraith trail
I'd be with you on that
warm anchor
cost is lowered for those built-in ads on certain cheap TV 
wraith trail
cause my smart tv is so horrible to actually use I always end up attaching something else anyways
brave radish
I'm never gonna use Netflix on my TV itself; I have a Mac and an Apple TV attached to it if I want that. What I really DON'T want though is to have to wait... for my TV... to boot
Why on Earth does a TV have to boot?!
golden gust
smart TVs undercut the market as they're able to sell you afterwards
brave radish
dont they run like a strip down OS
Still takes like 10 seconds
wraith trail
don't even mind that but it telling me it has an update every day bugs me
if you dind't have it networked it wouldn't have to update!
brave radish
Whenever I AirPlay something to my Apple TV, it so kindly turns on my TV for me all near-instantly, but then I have to wait 10 seconds for my TV to turn on
warm anchor
but sulu you gotta keep on the latest /s
wraith trail
and it won't even just use the display port unless you have it on the network
waxen panther
all the smart tvs i've used have had terrible / slow / clunky uis
i just have mine go straight into my apple tv
brave radish
if you dind't have it networked it wouldn't have to update!
I didn't give mine the WiFi password
Forget not needing to be smart cuz I have an Apple TV; I only even have it cuz I got it for someone else and I like AirPlay
I can just watch Netflix on my computer
who actually uses TVs just to watch TV anymore?
I think most people attach computers, no?
wraith trail
wouldn't own one but my roommates watch a lot of tv
brave radish
still; if I want Netflix, let me get it myself instead of forcing a proprietary OS down my throat that takes 10 seconds to boot and is probably spyware so I can use it built in to my TV
golden gust
You can still get TVs
But
once again, the reason why smart TVs are cheaper is that they can sell you afterwards
and, well, the downfall is that the cheaper TVs undercut the market and people chase after them
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) The Intel Compute Stick is a stick PC designed by Intel to be used in media center applications. According to Intel, it is designed to be smaller than conventional desktop or other small-form-factor PCs, while offering comparable performance. Its main connector, an HDMI 1.4 port, along with a compatible monitor and Bluetooth-based keyboards and mice, allows it to be used for general computing tasks. The small form factor device was launched in
brave radish
that's a Ubuntu tv ^^
golden gust
converts zcm into a headless chicken man
tbqh, only real thing I want is a plex tv
Like, maaaybe prime
the sofa here ain't really a super comfortable one, so, idk how much I'd really care to use it
maybe bed surfin watching TV
brave radish
*converts zcm into a headless chicken man*
are you cutting off the Zombie's head or the Chicken's?
golden gust
brave radish
😳
warm anchor
time to change the name to HeadlessZombieChickenMan
warm anchor
void void
Not related with tech/mc/paper or anything but who do teachers think they are? Once a teacher asked me to throw away a pen, and I said no and because of that, they ended up calling my dad about this. And my friend got sent to the office because he didn't want to change tables in French class
potent fossil
they're underpaid and miserable as fuck and for a good amount of them the only joy they can derive from their daily lives is being assholes
not all of em tho
void void
yeah
warm anchor
jojo how old are you
potent fossil
i agree lets fuck me
golden gust
Fuck
brave radish
I am personally of the opinion that text-based rick rolls don't count unless they're really well done but oh well
golden gust
I just lost it
wraith trail
the game
warm anchor
revived
golden gust
DOn"T LIKE IT TAKE IT BACK
void void
yay!
potent fossil
sulu fuck you
void void
woah
brave radish
now that he's a mod and a member of the triage team, can we have a :sulu:?
wraith trail
ew no
brave radish
:(
warm anchor
golden gust
adds dickbutt emoji for sulu
golden gust
I was watching something on that
apparently he scared the shit out of the other actors during that ep
brave radish
LOL
potent fossil
truly the king of method acting
golden gust
Grinders and Paint make me the welder I ain’t
untold copper
ok gamers lets go spanish exam today
untold copper
yes
potent fossil
i haven't used spanish once since high school except for some memes
gray crane
wat happens to old servers when updating to 1.17? the new bedrock level is at like -64 so what does that look like?
potent fossil
same thing ppl did for other major version upgrades. backup the world, upload it for ppl to download, offer schematic transfers for a limited time, and make a new world
unless you're 2b2t and literally never resetting as some sort of statement
gray crane
wat happens to the border of new chunks and old chunks
potent fossil
we don't know yet
gray crane
ah
potent fossil
it's literally not out so we can't tell you :p
magic river
The snapshots just didn't let you use old worlds
Presumably they'll do something else in 1.18 but who knows
Also it's 1.18 now, 1.17 is just new blocks and mobs
short yarrow
After learning about monitoring and alarming, I'd like to know how people monitor their minecraft servers. Does it usually require something custom? Like a program pinging your server every couple seconds and if it doesn't receive a ping you'll get notified
warm anchor
untold copper
waitwaitwait
where is shadow hacker
@novel horizon yes found him
unnfortunately, ender IO is for 1.12.2
no
i checked
untold copper
this is an issue
magic river
Ore dictionary doesn't make both work with recipes?
warm anchor
It was a joke lol
untold copper
2 items of copper is an issue
mental meadow
Good morning uwu
untold copper
gm uwu
mighty storm
uhhh beans
limber knotBOT
bean
ancient bolt
TIL in order for electron apps to behave property with gnome-shell and the appindicator extension you have to run them as flatpaks
but hey at least I have discord and slack icons now
limber knotBOT
I just use snaps
ancient bolt
what even is the difference between snaps and flatpaks
limber knotBOT
Absolutely no fucking idea besides flatpaks being slow as fuck in my experience.
ancient bolt
huh, seems fine to me
seems like they are essentially identical in concept
I see insomnia is available as a snap but not flatpak, so will use that instead lol
seems like they work better in those systems than native installs, so will start to prefer that instead
limber knotBOT
Steam on flatpak is slow as hell at least, tried that one a few times. Steam natively works great, though
ancient bolt
oh yeah I don't bother with steam on linux
okay insomnia from snap is weird as hell
native insomnia works fine
so i guess for any given app i just gotta figure out which one is best lmao god this is why windows is the only way linux on the desktop will ever work
void void
Can someone who has nitro please send me the .... emoji:
- bee
- buffering (cat)
- partyparrot
- thumbsup parrot
I want to download them XD
🤣
peak ginkgo
void void
Thanks!!!
novel horizon
@untold copper That's why you use modpacks. You must use mods or so for some management of resources, you need to for example disallow spawning of ores from other mods, because they might all spawn and you get like 3 types of copper ore etc.
cedar spade
I spy emote piracy 
void void
I already heared that on the official mc discord xd if im not allowed to use them, please let me know, i won't if you do!!!
novel horizon
what are u two talking about?
void void
i asked for emojis, to download them
void void
Xd Okay thanks
void void
XD
wide chasm
"Async multithreaded custom emojis fork" now on mcm, only 300 dollars
void void
xD
quasi valley
they are differently lit 
shell vine
autumn glen
discord bot dev of mine was finally able to integrate youtube watch together, even though it is still a beta feature. Pretty nice
potent fossil
i just use https://twoseven.xyz for all my watch party needs
olive marlin
I love corporate presentations. They want to squeeze all the data in just to take more time, so you end up with a screenshot of a huge XML file, which is unreadable. But you need it!
autumn glen
Well the point i'm emphasizing on is the fact that we got a beta feature working on a public bot
potent fossil
k thx for the shameless self promo 👌
autumn glen
Not gonna advertise the bot bruh, i'm just excited about that fact. I also didn't know but discord buttons from bots were coming too
ashen cliff
My internet is so slow, the DELL lifecycle controller can't update stuff as it timeouts while downloading.
worn ember
I love corporate presentations. They want to squeeze all the data in just to tak...
Gotta love corporate inefficiency.
void void
is it called paper or paperspigot?
golden gust
Paper
worn ember
yatopia wouldve been a better name tbh
golden gust
an ur parents a condom
quasi valley
but cat, Yaptapia is a blazing fast Tuinity fork with best in class performance. 
native wolf
Blazing fast world corruption
left swift
PaperYatopia
quasi valley
should I use it
no
viral hornet
cedar spade
yeahnopeia
left swift
Paper steals patches from yatopia
Idk why that name of all things to name a fork. Yatopia reminds me of that one Pixar animal movie and furries
wide chasm
At least my name has a fancy color
left swift
untold copper
the hot pink that burns my eyes
peak ginkgo
!
olive garden
at least I'm colorblind enough for colors not to matter to me
left swift
That's red snoopa
olive garden
I guess I'm not the only one
quasi valley
mfw pokiDank
cedar spade
lavish nova
Did someone have a Paper workspace which uses Mojang mappings?
twin lagoon
zed 
lavish nova
hi michael
twin lagoon
lavish nova
how you doing
twin lagoon
epic
there's some work being done on the paperweight branches
i don't think there's anything "ready" to use right now other than re-using old versions of toothpick
maybe @vernal moth has something to say about it
lavish nova
I saw Forge has now switched to Mojang mappings
twin lagoon
they have yes
lavish nova
I would imagine Spigot will follow
golden gust
he repackaged but no idea if we'll see classes, etc
golden gust
and yea, paper branch is there but still a WIP, but, close™
lavish nova
Interesing
iirc Spigot/Forge were aligned on strategy wrt Mojang Mappings so if one changed I'd only guess the other would as well
quasi valley
md and strategy?
lavish nova
I thought I rememberd a few months ago someone had a tool which would remap a Spigot-named server workspace into Mojang-named workspace but I may have been dreaming
twin lagoon
yeah that's toothpick
twin lagoon
but it wasn't really usable out of the box
golden gust
paperweight does that too
lavish nova
It's fine I'll go play in Forge
twin lagoon
zed porting cubetap to forge 
golden gust
uses mojang mappings and fabric mappings, now moving onto quiltmc's for params, etc
twin lagoon
lavish nova
We're backporting 1.12 into CubeTap atm
vernal moth
I hope that paperweight is fully ready this week again
lavish nova
I think once we jump above that we'll start afresh
twin lagoon
We're backporting 1.12 into CubeTap atm
as in staying on 1.9 but backporting features?
vernal moth
Demon finished most of the work, I only need to remap and fix patches
Tho I am heavily sun burned so I just wanna vommit all day 😂
lavish nova
as in staying on 1.9 but backporting features?
Yeah, but there's less and less of the original Minecraft server left 😅
vernal moth
No mojang mappings for anything older than 1.14.4 tho
next frost
Tho I am heavily sun burned so I just wanna vommit all day 😂
why are you leaving the house smh
quasi valley
I'm sun bathing in our garden hahaha
lavish nova
Yeah I mean when we jump above 1.12 I think it would be to at least 1.16/1.17
but that's not for a whileee
twin lagoon
i mean it would probably be best to have something maintainable to be able to update to the latest version
wide chasm
I heard 1.14 is an excellent version /s
vernal moth
Demon will be polishing up and documenting paperweight this week, plus provide a way for forks, so maybe that's when you can check it out
lavish nova
Yes, whenever we do jump, we'll use Mojang mappings I think on whatever version we land on
twin lagoon
when will paper be moving to paperweight
vernal moth
When it's done and we feel comfortable
twin lagoon
i was more aiming for a can we expect paperweight to be merged into master before 1.17 / a major version
lavish nova
does someone wanna come and work on CubeCraft build tooling 
vernal moth
Ideally yes michael
vernal moth
Build tooling is so cursed tho zed
twin lagoon
since he does all of the gradle stuff for purpur
and basically rewrote all of the bash scripts for paper into gradle
lavish nova
Our build tooling is literally haunted
left swift
I can come stand around and tell people their doing a good job for you, I start at 60k/year
twin lagoon
gradle is epic
vernal moth
I couldn't wanna work with gradle full time for only 60k euro, lol
left swift
Nah that's just for standing over people and giving them words of encouragement
vernal moth
That kinda brain damage requires more compensation 😂
Altho I think I would be able to maintain most of paperweight
waxen panther
jmp is epic
lavish nova
i think our platform teams wants to move all our devops tooling into some k8s clusters anyways
currently we have an old dustbin mac pro running debian in a rack lol
left swift
Brocc is epic
untold meadow
literally better than robot wars
topaz mortar
but it wasn't really usable out of the box
It is now, just not the public version atm.
left swift
Sometimes 1
untold copper
aaaaa soo many oreees
waxen panther
wow so epic 😀
left swift
Very epic snoopa, thank you
golden gust
- We're not here to piss in the wind
- asking that question implies that you've done 0 research
- We do not support, in any capacity, outdated versions of the software
left swift
Yeah snoopa what cat said
golden gust
That's the thing: if you did research you'd understand why nobody throws out such numbers
left swift
Seeming how you said how many cores shows you're already off to the wrong race
untold copper
cat seems mad today, better not talk
left swift
Cat is cat today
frank otter
cat is today
left swift
Today
golden gust
it's just annoying seeing people repeating questions which have been answered 200 times by the community just because they're not happy with the answer
untold copper
true
frank otter
very
golden gust
Basically, nobody can answer that question for you
untold copper
left swift
I dont know what ur trying to point out there is no red circle
worthy geode
What is confusing about it? Use the latest version, get a decent dedicated server with a CPU with good single core performance and 80 players are easily achievable
It's not complicated or hard at all
untold copper
@novel horizon wtf why is there NO documentation on the latest version of thermal expansion
How do I store energy and stuff
what do i do
i am confusion
novel horizon
energy cell is for storage of energy
novel horizon
you need to open the thing on the right side that looks like the saw i dont know the word
and open it
yellow is output i think
you must figure it out a bit
xd
cant say it right now
❤️
warm anchor
how old are you btw? just curious
cedar spade
...click on the gear tab on the right of the cell's UI, and set it to accept energy from that side
I haven't touched thermal mods for years and I could figure that out
untold copper
smh eternity
untold copper
...click on the gear tab on the right of the cell's UI, and set it to accept ene...
THANKS
A LOT
this is so bigbrain
warm anchor
I knew it. Snoopa you can take care of your friend?
cunning raft
cunning raft
warm anchor
https://i.imgur.com/brVYBpp.png
OH SHIT. 
twin lagoon
@warm anchor 
warm anchor
Good morning Michael and good job Jroy 
untold copper
very cool
magic river
TIL some people don't know what gears look like
left swift
Just snoopa
warm anchor
Just snoopa...
magic river
No, shadow
static badge
⚙️
left swift
Ew a furry is here
magic river
Rude
twin lagoon
warm anchor
magic river
weebs kinkshaming furries is so weird
twin lagoon
holy shit why does microsoft have so many buildings in redmond
left swift
I'm a pokisimp not a weeb ok
twin lagoon
shit has to be bigger than googleplex
magic river
They've only been there 30 years
twin lagoon
waxen panther
Michael 🥺
untold copper
TIL some people don't know what gears look like
tbh gears and saws are similar, both have teeth
warm anchor
twin lagoon
tbh gears and saws are similar, both have teeth
left swift
Microsoft always was redmond
waxen panther
til michael is a kpop stan
twin lagoon
til michael is a kpop stan
only for the emotes
magic river
Microsoft started in Albuquerque
left swift
Right that's what I say
twin lagoon
i hate it to be political but what in the fuck is albqueurereequueuq
waxen panther
t r u e !
left swift
I think it's a food
untold copper
i hate it to be political but what in the fuck is albqueurereequueuq
yes
twin lagoon
they've got microsoft b u s e s
warm anchor
does it regularly stops to update?
mossy vessel
Driving with XP
left swift
It has windows
untold copper
Driving with style.
magic river
Every big tech company in the bay area has busses
Not surprising to see they have them in Seattle too
mossy vessel
Yet the buses look quite cheap lmao
warm anchor
That's like the standard airport shuttle
void void
yes
waxen panther
!
left swift
I expected bangbuses
warm anchor
You wanna bang the nerd on the bus? /s
left swift
U ride the bus? 😳
twin lagoon
why are american universities as big as a fucking city
waxen panther
because they have to shield the students from the outside world 😁
warm anchor
yeah
void void
oh shit i am on a bus right now
mossy vessel
That's what's driving around in the next larger city https://i.imgur.com/GLgacgN.png
left swift
What a coincidence!
void void
uk bus red
twin lagoon
nmf 
left swift
City buses even got built in stripper poles
untold copper
yall bus got RGB?
yes we have those here as well
void void
yall bus got RGB?
R
mossy vessel
Ngl, those buses is what I want to see
mossy vessel
Yes, you get what we sourced out.
waxen panther
lol
void void
is that a lorry
left swift
Bus rgb but the colors change faster the faster you drive
void void
im gonna give everyone epilepsy
left swift
Then what
void void
watch them die as i eat my fish and chips
left swift
Ur wat
void void
fish an' chips innit
left swift
Wheres cat we need a translator
void void
Britishspeak
void void
do you eat teabag
waxen panther
yes i drink the finest Birchal teabags
left swift
Gross
left swift
left swift
I dont get it
warm anchor
void void
I dont get it
i dont either