#general

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visual egret
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prison/factions isnt very unique though thonk

tribal flicker
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it's the worst thing ever*

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skyblock is at that point almost

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or already is actually not sure

cunning raft
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oskar you're changing your claim every time lmfao

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first it was name a big server that has a copy paste economy

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then any server that survives more than a year

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and now prison/factions isnt very unique though

visual egret
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ok then

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any big, good server

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u happy now

tribal flicker
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now it's confusing

waxen panther
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paper general time

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😁

quasi valley
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πŸ˜€

cunning raft
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oskar if you're talking about mineplex/hypixel/people who use custom everything ofc

tribal flicker
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They have so many smileys πŸ™‚ πŸ˜ƒ πŸ˜„

visual egret
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πŸ˜„

nova plume
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πŸ™ƒ

untold copper
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😁

nova plume
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snoopa going for a rebrand

warm anchor
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Oskar is gonna start a new network

nova plume
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he did afaik

golden gust
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FartyRealms incoming

nova plume
untold copper
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too lazy

visual egret
tribal flicker
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real party

nova plume
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didn't see you there πŸ˜…

celest dirge
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Hi do any of you know a plugin that freezes the player on the server and holds when you perform a server restart? (Is a bungee system)

visual egret
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the player wont be able to move if the server is closed @celest dirge, therefore no need to be frozen right?

tribal flicker
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Well naw oskar he means as in when the server restarts hes still frozen bro

visual egret
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hm yes i wonder what is this thonk

golden gust
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race track

warm anchor
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Track with no speed limit

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you dont get a ticket either Oskar. You just go stright to heaven if you fuck up

visual egret
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race track where people go so fast that their Mercedes flips into the sky when they brake

vernal moth
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Both wrong, lol

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Autobahn is just german highway

golden gust
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RACE. TRACK.

nova plume
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but you can go spiid

waxen panther
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lmfao

vernal moth
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Which happens to have no speed limits sometimes, but in urban areas it's mostly limited to 120 or 130km/h, so pretty slow

nova plume
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mini now i know why you question retroopers existance

mental meadow
golden gust
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lol

wide chasm
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The Autobahn is limited to 80km/h because they're always working on the road /s

mental meadow
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60km/h, other than that you are right

wide chasm
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"Wir bauen fΓΌr Sie"

golden gust
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oh, somebody wanna piss people off?

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make the IP forwarding stuff from bungee in paper validate that it's a valid hostname

nova plume
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in the uk we use metric for everything but imperial for roads so i dont really know how fast that is

olive garden
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I think we had a 40km/h segment for like half a year

peak ginkgo
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uh

mental meadow
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Austrian Highways > German Highways

golden gust
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.wa 80km/h in mph

limber knotBOT
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peak ginkgo
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trust me im on it

nova plume
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that so slow

untold copper
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i want to eat croissant

nova plume
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snoopa go buy one

peak ginkgo
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freedom unit converter

untold copper
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I cant

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:c

nova plume
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cat stop the essay

golden gust
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hm, I thiiink we've had speed limits thatlow on the motor way in the UK but it's only generally when they magically make a 3/4 lane into a 1 lane for works

nova plume
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boris calls them "smart" motorways smh

golden gust
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but, generally we only go to like 50 mph during constructions

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I mean, we have smart motorways into london

waxen panther
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uk motorways are ran by the fun police zzzzzz

nova plume
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nah, its like 3 mph

golden gust
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Generally just a metric fuckton of cameras

waxen panther
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average speed check zones are terrible

golden gust
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Oh god

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Broc

nova plume
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m25 construction \0/

waxen panther
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yes hello

golden gust
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Do you remember a few years ago, when there was like a "you can bypass the speed check zones by crossing lanes, but, we don't advise you do it"

waxen panther
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Lmfao yeah there are so many issues with them

nova plume
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πŸ‘ very good idea

mental meadow
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we have those mostly in long tunnels

waxen panther
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We had an area where you could go off the motorway and back on the next junction that was like half a mile away and go 70 throughout without being flagged

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The motorway from Southampton to Portsmouth has been having work done to it for the past 2 years and has another 3 years planned lol

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Glad I don’t live there anymore

golden gust
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See, i remember going into london down one of those "smart" motorways

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basically, when traffic is busy enough they open up the recovery lane as a proper lane, and then generally reduce the speed limit down

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pretty sure I saw them in the like 30-50 range in some areas

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was annoying af

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what doesn't help is that UK drivers are fucking morons in general and then you get lots of trucks heading down there during that time, and people are reeally incapable of driving with lorries around

granite axle
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and people are reeally incapable of driving with lorries around
ftfy

waxen panther
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lmfao yea smart motorways barely work

left swift
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Ur a smart motorway brocc peepoShy

woven otter
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sad

vernal moth
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heh

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malicious plugins are fun

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both of the methods open a connection to some site, with a licence key and a special user agent, download js code again, and then execute it again

visual egret
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mini hi

vernal moth
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sadly both hosts in there are broken so I cant see the payload

visual egret
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appears that the original domain is of some developer

vernal moth
nova plume
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agent restricted?

visual egret
quasi valley
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there's been so many cases of people coming in with malware in their plugins recently o.o

vernal moth
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and spigot is doing what spigot does best:

quasi valley
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different ones even

vernal moth
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nothing

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this shit is so easy to detect automatically

olive marlin
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Don't update your plugins thinksmart

quasi valley
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laughs in auto-updating plugins

vernal moth
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if contains reference to scriptengine -> flag for manual review

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done

topaz mortar
vernal moth
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this is cool

granite axle
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help i broke my win7 vm

vernal moth
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land mine next to me

olive marlin
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Hmm, maybe I could mount plugin jars readonly in the docker container, so that if malware would try to spread, it'd start throwing errors in the console because it can't write to jar file?

wide chasm
nova plume
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prof why do you write in proper sentences

granite axle
merry talon
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im having a totally ungoogable issue but it seems too minor to see a doctor about

worn ember
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ask bing

olive marlin
# nova plume prof why do you write in proper sentences

I know this is the internet and writing in proper sentences is frowned upon, but I always try to write in a relatively proper way, to improve my English skills πŸ™‚
I guess I also try to present myself well when messaging / emailing clients, so I'm used to it.

worn ember
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ok boomer

wide chasm
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Writing sentences without starting with a capital is scary

merry talon
# cosmic raft hm?

a couple days ago my hot water was broken and I had to wash my hair in ice cold water

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I've felt like dizzy ever since

worn ember
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i'm so used to writing "its" i'd actually write it like that on paper too xD

olive marlin
wide chasm
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Well, they better get used to using an on-screen keyboard then πŸ™‚

ashen cliff
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CAPS LOCK.

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Left shift, right shift, ALT GR codes.

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Plenty of options. kekwhyper

nova plume
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tf does alt gr even do

ashen cliff
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Everything.

nova plume
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ight ok

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such a weird key

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never used it

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probs never will

olive marlin
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You need it for many awesome symbols.

ashen cliff
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They don't do that in the US tho.

nova plume
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im from the ul

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k

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oh*

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omfg

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uk

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there

warm anchor
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Why is Uk people like this?? run

nova plume
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"is"

olive marlin
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I guess. I can't write almost any sentence in my language without using Alt.

worn ember
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whats your lnaguage

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words hard

olive marlin
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It's polish.
I never know when I should use uppercase and when lowercase when speaking about country or language etc.

nova plume
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theyre all uppercase

ashen cliff
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Just say πŸ‡΅πŸ‡±.

worn ember
nova plume
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yh like that

wide chasm
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Alt codes are epic

worn ember
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dont you have polish keyboard layouts?

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sounds kinda dum if you ahve to do that

olive marlin
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Yes. And what does these layouts use? Alt codes.
Just like using shift changes keyboard to "second layer", alt changes it to third and alt + shift together change it to fourth.

worn ember
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wtf

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do you speak hieroglyphs or something

wide chasm
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Sounds like a big brain layout.

worn ember
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no wonder ISO is having a hard time

worn ember
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gotta love transparent images xD

left swift
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U

worn ember
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everyone does indeed love me

left swift
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Where is the up arrow on that keyboard

wide chasm
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On the U, in blue

left swift
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Oh

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Ew

olive marlin
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←↓↑→

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If I want to edit some MC crap with legacy colors, I don't need to copy section sign from some website - I just need to press Alt+7 and I get Β§.

waxen panther
olive marlin
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Moonlander? Pog?

wide chasm
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I use Alt+21

olive marlin
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I wanted to get it.

worn ember
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i just press 6 for that lol

wide chasm
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Β§

worn ember
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Β§

waxen panther
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its epic

left swift
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Stop brocc

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That's illegal

waxen panther
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stop what

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wtf

worn ember
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brocc cant even use a normal layout smh

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such a tryhard zoop

olive marlin
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I'll probably need to register bloodstone company later this year and getting decent monitors and a moonlander is on my list of things to buy for it πŸ™‚

left swift
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Ergonomics is illegal in 200 countries

worn ember
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what kind of company?

olive marlin
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Just the simplest, one-person company so that I can work on B2B contracts.

worn ember
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ah

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and ez tax evasion

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dont need to pay tax on company property

olive marlin
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It's called Tax Optimalization smh

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Professionals here charge around 3-4k yearly to do all the paper work and recommend you how to optimize it better.

warm anchor
left swift
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Bloodstone minecraft business

olive marlin
warm anchor
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No. I think it’s good

olive marlin
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Yeah, there won't be anything tying me to MC, don't see a reason to limit myself just to it.

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Bloodstone Professional Services? πŸ™‚

left swift
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"Bloodstone Minecraft & Other"

magic river
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Holy cow, in China companies are trying to trick people in to trading their RX 580 for a 1050 Ti by claiming there is a recall on the AMD card

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So they can use it or sell it to someone for crypto mining

nova plume
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i mean there was a heist there of like 10-15 rtx 3090s in an msi factory before the card even launched

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so really, what do u expect

ancient bolt
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crypto will be the death of us all

magic river
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eww, newegg's GPU raffle forces you to buy a motherboard too

nova plume
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lol

magic river
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btw newegg is doing a GPU raffle right now

nova plume
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what region

magic river
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US

nova plume
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first company i've seen to say "uk-en"

visual egret
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UK never gets shit

nova plume
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yh ikr

magic river
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I think they had other options too since tom's hardware has more listed on their story about it, bet those didn't have mobos attached

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I figure after enough people sign up for one they must close it out, no point in having everyone dogpile on the best card in the bunch

nova plume
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omg stocks are getting better

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still a limit to 2 per customer tho

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yes because im gonna pay 1.2k for an i5 thats not even the latest gen and a 1660 ti

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but u then see a cheaper prebuilt with an rtx 3060

warm anchor
woven otter
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i think it's only up because of elon

ashen cliff
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300 IQ thing just happened.

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Someone reported my machine to Hetzner for attacking their machine. But their machine is a part of a DoS network... and they send the log from their NAT.

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Very epic.

mossy vessel
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Some people are true brainlets PepeLaugh

ashen cliff
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It's a god damn company tho.

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And now I must reply to them and to Hetzner. kekwhyper

cosmic raft
ashen cliff
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How do you nicely tell a 20 year old company that they are reading their logs wrong?

potent fossil
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"You're reading your logs wrong."

left swift
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Perhaps a review of your logs are needed in order to fully understand the current situation at hand

worn ember
ashen cliff
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Still waiting for Hetzner to reply tho.

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Also it's funny that they waited 8 days before reporting, since default log ration for network stuff is usually 7 days.

novel horizon
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Well, kinda, but obviously it's not the company that reads them, there may be some new people working too ^^ πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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And if someone's hurt because you say "it's not like this, you're doing it wrong", well, then..

vernal bone
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Switch to ovh for 2 monts of ticket response times!

limber knotBOT
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my tickets were resolved in under an hour on a sunday night Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

potent fossil
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depends what you're submitting tickets about i guess

limber knotBOT
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yeah

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that one was about a crash that they weren't able to detect automatically lol

brave radish
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did gh just go dark mode for everyone else?

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I'm not even signed in and it just did

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it was at the change of the hour but I didn't think they did dynamic, plus it's 3 PM here

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I didn't even know it could be in dark mode w/o an account

vernal moth
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What's your browsers theme or OS theme set to?

brave radish
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OS dark, FF set to match OS, but gh was always light before

vernal moth
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So they just use a media query now then

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As they should

brave radish
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I mean if they just rolled out a change to match the browser I'm good with that

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it was just weird cuz I was on an issue, clicked a link to a PR, and suddenly everything was dark

vernal moth
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Yes they follow browser theme now

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You can see the site updating by changing it

brave radish
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nice

vernal moth
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Both new themes are GA today

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But didn't you set it to dark before you monster?!

unkempt drift
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I think the newer dark theme is better than the original dark theme

vernal moth
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(i actually prefer dimmed)

unkempt drift
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yes

granite axle
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idk it feels a bit undersaturated

vernal moth
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I wish I could set it per device

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Cause I want dark for mobile and dimmed for desktop

brave radish
vernal moth
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Why would you ever be logged out, smh

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GitHub is one of those sites that actually do login right, they never loose your login state

brave radish
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cuz I close everything on my computer every single time I put it away (it's a laptop)

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and I have cmd+shift+delete->enter->cmd+q locked into muscle memory to clear history cookies etc every time I quit FF

vernal moth
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That sounds dum and painful, lol

brave radish
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not even for privacy; I just don't want my history showing up once I'm done. I bookmark things I want to autocomplete

unkempt drift
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why would you do that?

vernal moth
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Then just set your history to clear on session end?

brave radish
vernal moth
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Loosing login state is super annoying

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I also require history for url prediction

unkempt drift
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shouldn't happen w/hangar hopefully

brave radish
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For example, if I quit FF to launch MC, I want to still be logged in to Discord and gh when I come back, but most of the time I don't

vernal moth
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At work I enter c, press tab, enter project name and it finds the right jenkins page

vernal moth
brave radish
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yeah ik

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which is why I don't want it to do it for me

brave radish
vernal moth
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History != Cookies

brave radish
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they do in FF :)

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at least, in regards to automatically clearing

vernal moth
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No

brave radish
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no?

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you can do history and not cookies?

vernal moth
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You can set it to clear the chronic or whatever they call it

brave radish
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(not that I will lol but still)

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oh I see

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the UI is a little weird

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this kind of implies that the bottom three checkboxes only apply if in private browsing mode, but they don't

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I'm not even sure why those are indented

vernal moth
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Because they are unnessasary it the top one is selected?

magic river
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Selecting the top one forces those three on

vernal moth
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Mfw I haven't used ff in at least 6 years and still know better how it works, smh

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Edge best browser rn

brave radish
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yeah but like, private browsing mode always does that, and I get you're saying they should be there bc you can't have private on and those off, I just think it would be better to have them not indented but grey them out when always in private

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that's just my impression though; doesn't rly matter

cosmic raft
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Firefox best :p

magic river
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I guess the difference is if you view those as child settings or view them as customization settings

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I mean, they aren't customization settings but that style is used for those too

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So it can be confusing which one you're getting

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But they didn't make up this style, installers and such use it for child settings all the time

brave radish
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I'd try Edge but it's like the definition of proprietary

waxen panther
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i like plain old chromium

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i tried ff for a few months, wasnt a fan

brave radish
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how do you even use that lol

waxen panther
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wdym how

brave radish
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they don't provide binaries aside from the bleeding edge ones, no?

waxen panther
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oh i have no idea how you'd do it on windows

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my package manager makes it very easy though peepoLove

brave radish
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you're on Linux?

waxen panther
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yea

magic river
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I wonder where the source code is for edge

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I guess they might just put all the LGPL stuff back in to the blink/chromium repos?

brave radish
# waxen panther yea

ah; makes sense. I'm on macOS. I started using Brave instead when I need a Chromium-based browser

waxen panther
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i believe chromium has a brew cask

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brew install --cask chromium

magic river
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Chromium has been thoroughly de-googled at this point, hasn't it?

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Well, for the bits that don't make them money anyway

brave radish
magic river
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Like, they still have the telemetry and unique identifier but they stripped out the ability to use google translate and sync and such

waxen panther
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Yeah it's fairly un-spooky, for a google product at least

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I'd use librewolf if i actually cared about my privacy but well...

magic river
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So I guess not thoroughly de-googled, it has only the bad parts of google in it

native wolf
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sudo apt install firefox

magic river
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You don't get the good to offset the bad like you used to

waxen panther
mystic geode
waxen panther
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@cunning raft turn off the overlay

mystic geode
cunning raft
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@waxen panther fuck u

mystic geode
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I m use phone

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:c

mystic geode
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Thanks you

viral hornet
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@waxen panther hello notable x

granite axle
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oh wait

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no table

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notable

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how did i not make that connection before

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big brain time

left swift
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What do you mean

granite axle
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somehow it didnt click that the no table role was for notable people and not people without tables

cunning raft
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?

left swift
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Huh

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They dont have tables idk what ur on about

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Kinda rude

granite axle
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please tell me youre screwing with me

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i am really tired

brave radish
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assuming people have tables? that's humanist

left swift
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Tableist

granite axle
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;-;

left swift
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No it uses goats

void void
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am i the only one that uses google chrome

waxen panther
modest path
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@granite axle absolute massive brain

granite axle
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ikr

waxen panther
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idk it took me a couple weeks to realise when i first joined

left swift
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Realise what

waxen panther
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no table = notable

granite axle
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so im not the only one?

waxen panther
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i thought it was just shitposting

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maybe the one of only two instead :p

left swift
waxen panther
modest path
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when'd you first join broc

waxen panther
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mid 2019

modest path
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old fucker

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i mean there are older people most definetly

runic shale
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deal_with_it_parrot Hey guys

modest path
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imagine having nitro

granite axle
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cant relate

cunning raft
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you're probably not old enough to have that discord acount

left swift
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Who is nitro

waxen panther
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lmao

mossy vessel
waxen panther
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sorry am new person

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wen 1.17 ?

granite axle
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do you have an .eta here like spigot do

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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

granite axle
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:o

waxen panther
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thats the old eta thing

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the new eta thing is an insta ban krappa

granite axle
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noice

left swift
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What do you search to find that

spare venture
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brocc newb

waxen panther
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from:broccolai and then in the search theres a new old recent button

spare venture
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Doesn’t work on mobile

left swift
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Yeah

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Rip

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I have 15,000 messages in here oof

granite axle
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i joined too late to get a message

left swift
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What have I been doing with my life

spare venture
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Thats it!

waxen panther
spare venture
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Since mid 2018 ive had many tens of thousands

cunning raft
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9/10ths of your messages relate to pokimane

left swift
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Oh I joined on my birthday look

waxen panther
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stop bullying mana

left swift
spare venture
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brocc me next πŸ₯Ί

waxen panther
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😳

cunning raft
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doesn't count emotes

visual egret
waxen panther
spare venture
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Lmao

left swift
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The wiz kicks PEPW

spare venture
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A lot are me just realizing I spend too much time here and forcing myself to leave for a while

left swift
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When's the next sabbatical

olive marlin
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Was it really so long?

spare venture
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Soon

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Very soon

olive marlin
ashen cliff
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No welcome msg. kekwhyper

mossy vessel
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yeetus deletus

spare venture
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someone deleted it?

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Or joined a channel that was deleted since then

ashen cliff
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You can delete your own welcome msg.

spare venture
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I couldn’t

native wolf
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yea, as its tehnically your message

spare venture
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I deleted all of my messages and it didn’t touch those

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Weird

left swift
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Lmao

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Barty went big crazy

olive marlin
spare venture
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Weird

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The API that I used didn’t see them as my sent messages somehow then

ashen cliff
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API

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Oh no no no.

spare venture
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Well I didn’t intend on deleting 45k+ messages by hand

ashen cliff
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Could have just asked the mods.

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Throw a GDPR complain at the problem. kekwhyper

worn ember
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rookie numbers

visual egret
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working on it

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hopefully i dont get banned before 50k

waxen panther
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legend says 60000 of deds messages are about configurate

ashen cliff
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Or the random tp plugin.

visual egret
waxen panther
spare venture
worn ember
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such lies

visual egret
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say you were under 13 when the messages were sent

ashen cliff
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When TF did Mikro leave us?

spare venture
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a while ago I think

ashen cliff
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Not that long ago I see.

spare venture
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I’ve seen him in other discords

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Oh?

ashen cliff
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So not so long.

spare venture
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Oh a couple weeks

left swift
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Were they the one that left after someone got banned

waxen panther
#

no mikro just doesnt stay in mc servers for the most part now

#

cant blame him

spare venture
#

yea it’s prob a good choice

left swift
#

Chooce

spare venture
#

you’re a chooce

ashen cliff
#

Expected.

#

Very epic.

brave radish
waxen panther
#

im about 10% mc 10% weeb and 80% emote servers

twin lagoon
#

shut up weeb

brave radish
#

actually that means my server list exactly matches my "mutual servers" list when I click on kashike

waxen panther
#

you first xx

twin lagoon
waxen panther
spare venture
twin lagoon
#

@warm anchor weebHuggu

brave radish
#

am I crazy or did they change the do not disturb icon?

twin lagoon
#

think they added a dash in it

spare venture
#

a while ago I think

twin lagoon
#

probably for accessibility since you couldn't see the difference otherwise

spare venture
#

ye

ashen cliff
#

Out of 30 servers, 18 are Minecraft related. kekwhyper

twin lagoon
#

that has been changed years ago though

undone crest
#

brother

ashen cliff
#

Bro!

undone crest
#

is there a way to get user info using a simple console command?

#

because what I do is

#

I go to FTP and check the logs.txt

#

to see the UID of each player

ashen cliff
#

/whois bro!

left swift
undone crest
#

oohhhh

brave radish
#

data get entity PlayerName? (vanilla)

spare venture
#

That only works with EssX if they are online, right krusic?

undone crest
#

damn

#

I accidentally ctrl+c'd my console now the server stopped haha

#

thanks for these fam!

left swift
#

Bro!

spare venture
#

Otherwise take their username, get UUID from namemc, and find their player data file from the UUID

ashen cliff
#

You can also get the UUID from Luckperms.

spare venture
#

Yes

brave radish
#

or just mouse over their name in the chat

spare venture
#

If they’re offline

#

Or a chat plugin

left swift
#

I think seen in essx shows uuid too no?

spare venture
#

Only if user is online

left swift
#

I think I've done for offline people

spare venture
#

who is won’t work

#

But recently essx started showing UUID in /seen

left swift
#

Ur a uuid

spare venture
visual egret
#

universal

#

unique

ashen cliff
#

Anyway. Daily reminder:

left swift
#

Income

#

Shenandoah river

spare venture
#

CMS kekw

worn ember
#

bruh wtf, if i set a breakpoint somewhere it throws a different exception than when i dont set a breakpoint omegalol

#

Only at DarkInc

true canyon
#

Epsilon is my favorite

spare venture
#

Get a terabyte of memory, use epsilon, and just reboot the server more often than it needs to GC aPES_BigBrainType

brave radish
#

party doesn't play minecraft?

spare venture
#

maybe

worn ember
#

whats a minecraft?

left swift
#

Who

worn ember
#

whomst

left swift
#

Whomstdve

warm anchor
left swift
peak ginkgo
#

ghs dark theme is ugly

brave radish
#

every other dark theme is better than light

#

not theirs

peak ginkgo
#

thank you

twin lagoon
#

yeah i just use the stylistheme one

visual egret
#

i like the dimmed dark one

royal kernel
#

Hi

wraith trail
#

Hi

rare rapids
#

Has anyone else noticed that none of the downloads @ minecraftforge have correctly matching file hashes

royal kernel
#

Sulu, u changed ur profile pic!

#

Or I just cant see it

#

I had a crash on my server and had to completely rebuild it.

#

That was fun

cunning raft
#

you're probably hashing them incorrectly

royal kernel
rare rapids
#

How are you going about it?

cunning raft
#

i just uploaded the jar to virus total

lean kiln
#

whats up with you

magic river
#

I don't even see hashes on their site...

#

Each line is more outlandish until he figures out what will get him banned

swift root
#

Absolutely cannot wait

waxen panther
worn ember
#

chromosomes for breakfast moment

magic river
#

All it really takes is someone to call for <@&748618676189528155> though

waxen panther
formal turret
#

"oops"

mighty storm
#

@plugins

golden gust
#

!ban @distant phoenix Let's not waste any time here, bait elsewhere

thorny flickerBOT
#

:raised_hands: Banned government_BAD#7208 (Let's not waste any time here, bait elsewhere) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.

worn ember
#

gottem

waxen panther
#

smh the guy that doesnt even use the mods ping thing is here before the mods

#

classic cat moment

swift root
#

That was amazing

mighty storm
#

how to OWN the liberals in one scary command

#

hello larry!

swift root
#

Hello!!!

#

How do?

worn ember
#

all mods waking from their slumber now

ancient bolt
#

I got the ping but I just sat and waited for someone else to type the command since I knew someone else would do it faster than me even if I tried

golden gust
#

DIE COMMIE FUCKS

waxen panther
swift root
#

Omg

#

D:

potent fossil
#

.larry

mighty storm
#

i saw cat typing so i just sat back

golden gust
#

i mean, I generally prefer the mods to do it

swift root
#

Mmmhm I wanna slap people so bad

golden gust
#

They generally get upset at my ban reasons

mighty storm
#

wut is this video

waxen panther
#

ok cat mod me 😁

swift root
#

The Slap 2

potent fossil
#

mod me too

worn ember
#

!ban @formal breachbs

waxen panther
worn ember
#

wow ok discord

ancient bolt
#

.!kick @waxen panther like this?

mighty storm
#

he do be slapping

swift root
#

Make everyone a mod until they do something to disappoint you

#

Best strat

mighty storm
#

oh right theyre british

waxen panther
#

woah demon i-i.. 😳

formal turret
#

gg dark

mighty storm
#

where is his slapping license

worn ember
#

mod royale, last one standing gets to keep it (cuz all the others will be banned)

golden gust
#

\! is more my jam

#

that few seconds where they wait to see if the bot wakes up

#

classic

mighty storm
#

!bruh

worn ember
mighty storm
#

!rory

#

unacceptable

#

lmao sal

ancient bolt
#

what does ! do

#

er \!

mighty storm
#

adds exclamation

worn ember
#

it yells at people

mighty storm
#

oh it escapes the command

ancient bolt
#

oh even for war thunder or whatever we use?

mighty storm
#

!mute @ancient bolt hehe

#

see does nothin

ancient bolt
#

oh weird

#

what if I do

golden gust
#

!ban @worn ember eat poop

ancient bolt
#

Ηƒmute @waxen panther

#

that one's more fun

worn ember
#

inb4 another infraction

mighty storm
#

:)

golden gust
#

It's beautiful, is it not

#

casually turns the whole team onto faking bans

#

waits for the one day that one of them in tiredness forgets the \

mighty storm
ancient bolt
#

β΅‘ looks less convincing than Ηƒ on my font

golden gust
#

I mean, 99% chance I'll fuck up before them as I do this all the time, but, still

ancient bolt
#

simply escaping commands is more boring 😦

golden gust
#

I just like watching people suffer

ancient bolt
#

!mute @mighty storm

#

would be funny if that worked

#

"full width !"

mighty storm
#

no u gotta

#

!mute @mighty storm

thorny flickerBOT
#

Command mute requires 3 argument(s) (<user:user|snowflake> <duration:str> <reason:str...>) passed 1

mighty storm
#

oh

waxen panther
#

huh, had no idea there was a character like that

golden gust
#

It's unicode

waxen panther
#

chew cant even mute themself smh

golden gust
#

there's probs like, everything

lean kiln
#

there is a character for everything

warm anchor
#

brocco is joking but everyone takes him seriously PepeLa

lean kiln
#

no

waxen panther
#

i am a very serious man

golden gust
#

I wonder if they've got like a character which you can like, overlay

lean kiln
#

brocco is just a vegatble

waxen panther
golden gust
#

Coz, I know that unicode already has characters which modify previous characters pretty much

waxen panther
#

3 of my 6 daily mixes are your music now jmp

ancient bolt
lean kiln
#

lol

ancient bolt
#

β’† is a single character in unicode

lean kiln
#

spotify algorithm moment

waxen panther
#

ː β†’ :

golden gust
#

would be nice if there was like, a character which you can just like, draw a single character sized picture with or something dumb

lean kiln
#

​

#

thats my favorite unicode

#

​

waxen panther
#

thats deep

warm anchor
#

It's empty just like brocco's heart

#

||and his wallet||

waxen panther
#

woah wtf was that drive by for

warm anchor
waxen panther
#

well actually eternity,i got a new wallet, so, there

#

i will go cry now.

warm anchor
#

jk love you brocco rielove

waxen panther
cunning raft
#

@waxen panther

waxen panther
#

@cunning raft hi

lean kiln
#

@cunning raft @cunning raft

#

you pinged me 6 times last night btw

waxen panther
#

only 6 ?

#

im sure he'll fix that for next time

cunning raft
#

not nearly enough

potent fossil
#

my physics professor just told me "the eye's max refresh rate is 30 frames per second"

merry talon
#

ah yes

#

because the eye refreshes

potent fossil
#

facepalm that was his rationale for why we only need to code our animations at 30fps

potent fossil
#

alright back to this dumb shit

merry talon
#

wtf is this shit

#

i hate twitch

potent fossil
#

yeah i saw that pop up and was like ???

void void
#

bukkit forums are dead

true canyon
#

good

cunning raft
#

unfortunately it's still up for me

void void
#

i messaged the admin guy to delete my acc but he still hasn't responded

golden gust
#

I mean, i ignore most "HALP" dms

#

use the report system or whatever

void void
#

he told me to pm him

golden gust
#

ah, gg

void void
#

pretty sad, only 5 members online

modest path
#

i'm gonna β’†

#

just β’†ing rn

untold copper
#

good morning bois

lean kiln
#

xxSnoopaGamerXx

#

why do you change your name so much

untold copper
#

Yes?

#

lol

#

Just like that :)

lean kiln
#

makes sense

waxen panther
#

yea new version looks terrible

#

first step to not having a terrible username: no Xx

untold copper
#

Lets change it again, I've had this one for a while now

#

yes

brave halo
#

Alright so I don't really use Minecraft hosting anymore and haven't for a while but how do you go about getting Java 11 when paper requires it. I just realized that people are going to be complaining left and right "paper no work" when they cant install it themselves.

waxen panther
#

.java11

limber knotBOT
waxen panther
#

we know people are going to find it difficult for whatever reason which is why they had like 8 months warning

brave halo
untold copper
#

I like this username

brave halo
#

The only reason I asked is because I took a look at my plugin stats

#

And uh

warm anchor
#

yeah it's about to change

#

πŸ˜‰

waxen panther
#

well most of it is down to hosts

brave halo
#

Yeah

#

My plugin relies on 11 now but only in beta builds and I'm going to make an announcement and was like "but how do hosts switch"

#

Thanks for the answer I can just show them that

waxen panther
#

yea thats why i do

#

praise proximyst prayga

warm anchor
#

Just tell them java11 makes server runs faster

waxen panther
#

brr

brave halo
#

Java 11 gives you 1.8 combat

golden gust
#

Pretty much all hosts are working on it if they've not already done it

#

I mean, at least hosts who care to interact with the community

waxen panther
#

one of my users had to contact support and they do it manually

#

imagine PepeLa

brave halo
#

I just did install on my Linux console

#

I m a g i n e

magic river
#

You think 1.18 will require java 17?

#

They were looking to do a java upgrade soon, right? Would make sense to do it after the new LTS comes out

spare venture
#

mabe

coarse lily
#

I mean Java 8 is like 7 years old.

magic river
#

.g java 8 release date

coarse lily
#

So they probably won't require anything higher than Java 11 until like Minecraft 1.50

magic river
#

boo

#

It was 7 years old last month

golden gust
#

They're working on getting support for newer java versions into the launcher

spare venture
#

why wouldnt they just use the most recent java?

magic river
#

No point in going to 11 if 17 comes out before they get moved over

#

Well, I guess 16 forces modules, right?

golden gust
#

doesn't force modules afaik but does add some extra restrictions to what stuff can do without open flags

waxen panther
#

theres the microsoft openjdk distrobution now though right?

golden gust
#

Yea, but afaik that's existed for a good while internally

waxen panther
#

ah cool

#

are they going to fix the old computer graphics breaking with new java thing with that or is that something else

golden gust
#

I thiiink part of the hope is is that that hardware gets deprecated soon or something

#

pretty sure it was like 2011 era hardware at latest?

#

2009-2011? i think

#

intel HD 2000 series or something

magic river
#

Nah, those can do OpenGL 3.3

#

At least on Linux, although I guess they might be excluded on Windows since it only does 3.1

golden gust
#

wait, so, they already deaded?

magic river
#

Huh? No, 1.17 is the one that is supposed to require 3.x

#

Probably 3.3 since I doubt they did a complete rewrite to only use the core profile

#

Not sure if that got pushed back to 1.18 or not

golden gust
#

Wonder why their minimum is that high then

waxen panther
#

all the cool stuff is in 1.18 anyway so probably krappa

golden gust
#

Or if they just copy pasta'd the opengl version of that GPU

magic river
#

They probably just don't "support" it but it will run

#

Assuming no driver or minecraft bugs

golden gust
#

Damn, I remember back in the days

#

I recall tryna play minecraft on what I think was like an mx420

#

I think I got 1 FPS

#

or, well, 0.1 FPS

magic river
#

I got a sandy bridge MBP and built a new gaming desktop shortly after getting Minecraft

#

But in the alpha days before that it ran better

golden gust
#

I remember tryna play like gmod 11 on that thing

#

it kiiinda sorta worked

#

odd BSoD practically daily

#

But, it kinda worked

magic river
#

Not great but my cousins played at like 20-30 fps on a laptop with a GeForce Go 7000 or something like that

#

10 fps when it rained though

golden gust
#

lol

warm anchor
#

Minecraft with shader is actually heavier than most AAA title games

golden gust
#

I remember the days when people would scream for /weather sunny because their FPS would just tank

cosmic raft
#

kek

#

going through my imgur library

#

good times

golden gust
#

machine maker being trash tier as usual

jolly crown
#

paper automated updates paperOhhh

golden gust
jolly crown
unborn jay
#

People, I want to do home hosting and want to know some security stuff: If I protect my server behind a proxy with ddos protection and it gets ddos'd, will it put my home IP address at risk? Are ways for hackers to know the IP of a server behind the proxy? Is it viable to do homehosting with 500mbps?

golden gust
#

depends on the attack vector

#

Like, ddos protection services only generally cover a varying % of different attacks

unborn jay
#

I don't know about vectors, but it could reach my home IP if it breaks through the proxy, or even bypass the proxy?

golden gust
#

if they use a TCP based attack, any competent anti DDoS service should be able to deal with it

pulsar wigeon
#

did anyone not see that coming tho really

#

md blindly pulling a pr, finds out it breaks horribly, reverts

golden gust
#

if they start going into app specific stuff, most DDoS protection services are generally SOL

#

I mean, we had peeps fall for it, so, am not sure how to feel about the average intellect on the team

unborn jay
#

So, a well protected proxy will keep me secure most of the time, right?

golden gust
#

I mean, if you configure stuff properly you're gonna have much better protection that not

warm anchor
#

what kinda hardware you have?
What type of ISP you have?
How much knowledge you have over admin stuff?

golden gust
#

if you're concerned about DDoS attacks, home hosting is generally not a good idea

warm anchor
#

any home grade router can just be killed with too many connections

golden gust
#

^^

#

domestic routers are generally underspec'd to all shit for the connections they deal with as you're not expected to actually use it all bar the odd pp measuring here and there

unborn jay
#

I plan on limiting my server to 120 players, most of them latinos.

#

i'd even think 500mbps is too much

waxen panther
#

😬

unborn jay
#

About hardware, a ryzen 5 5600x and 16 gb of ram, likely a dedicated network card.

golden gust
#

I mean, should be k, that's like 4Mbps per player which ain't ideal, but, should generally cope

#

biggest thing is the # of connections

#

most ISPs really don't deal with too many connections well as the routers are kinda trash tier as already stated

unborn jay
#

The thing is there is no decent host in Chile, and the least ping i've been able to find from decent hosts and VPS is around 160ms

#

I'm currently using bloomhost but it seems like a lot of clients from latam (inlcuding me) have terrible connection. which is a shame because it was a very good host

#

Does anyone know a good alternative to bloom? It's a pretty decent host, unless you are southamerican and use Ashburn.

cosmic raft
#

take that, bungeecord

golden gust
#

woooo

void void
#

does anyone know of a good 2FA plugin (free or paid) ?

ancient bolt
#

I need a base for a base

#

what do I call a class which is a base for an already ThingBase class

#

ThingBaseBase ??

waxen panther
#

ThingBaseFoundation

ancient bolt
#

ThingBaseUtil

#

ThingUtilBaseUtil

waxen panther
#

beautiful

ancient bolt
#

LorenzUtilBase -> LorenzUtilBaseEx -> LorenzUtil

#

That's what I'll do

#

LorenzUtil is the only one anyone should actually use

#

The reason for this insanity is LorenzUtilBaseEx is a multi-release jar class

#

but both classes share login from LorenzUtilBase, and there's additional logic built on top of the mutli-release methods in LorenzUtil

modest path
#

A utility for a utility?

short yarrow
#

For simple string concatenation, do you guys use String.format or +. I heard the performance for String.format isn't that great, but String.format("/tp %s", playerName) looks nice and I also see people use String.format for localization. What do you guys use for more complex concatenation when you have multiple variables? Would you use String.format for longer strings with more variables or still +?

lean kiln
#

String.format is slower than concatenation but for most use cases the performance hit of either is negligible

#

Just use whichever you think is more readable unless it's something you know is actually impacting performance

short yarrow
lean kiln
#

its called a resource bundle

#

its in the jdk

short yarrow
#

Oh

#

that's pretty useful

untold copper
#

@lean kiln you should change ur name to jomp

waxen panther
#

?

lean kiln
#

makes sense

mental meadow
#

jomp

floral mesa
#

well, this is an interesting experiment with graalvm im doing.

#

trying to convert a mc server jar into a "native image"

left swift
#

jompy

untold copper
#

yes

left swift
#

Is snoopaplayz the name of your new YouTube channel

#

All it's missing is HD in your name

magic river
#

SnoopaPlayzHDYT

untold copper
#

lmao

left swift
#

.ttv

untold copper
#

Yes better

left swift
#

Now it looks like ur advertising

untold copper
#

:P

#

Its not like I have a youtube channel

#

so thats fine

untold copper
#

πŸ‘€

lean kiln
#

i will go to the home of paper core team with a pitchfork

#

its at 100 Core Team Way

#

whos coming

mental meadow
#

Come pick me up
I'm in mod ave

lean kiln
#

omw

#

bring torches

#

we will protest until hard fork

left swift
#

Can u give me ride I'm at Joe's house

lean kiln
#

Joe Montana?

left swift
#

No silly

#

Joe mamma

quasi valley
vernal moth
#

To force hard fork I assume ^^

umbral tiger
#

uwu @minor badge

ancient bolt
#

my jvm-bytecode-stack simulator super call simulator is getting out of hand

vernal moth
#

Heh

ancient bolt
#

the part that I think is wild is that it works

vernal moth
#

Oh god

#

Do you know all the op codes by memory or did you look them up from spec?

ancient bolt
#

updated the gist which has javadoc on the buildSuperCall method

#

if you clicked on it too soon

vernal moth
#

Hey, at least it's in hypo, so i can still claim I can understand paperweight πŸ˜‚

golden gust
#

3...2...

ancient bolt
#

lol well I know a lot of the instructions, and a lot of instructions all follow the same pattern (for example ADD - prefix it with the type it's operating on ILFD) but no I don't know all of them, I went through opcode tables and wrote up some disgusting test cases

#

then I ran it over all of minecraft and added a bunch of missing cases there too

#

and decided on which cases I wouldn't bother supporting (jump instructions)

vernal moth
#

Ah I see, good

#

So you are not superhuman after all πŸ˜‚

ancient bolt
#

so in all of minecraft it can't handle 7 constructors

#

because most super calls don't have ternaies

#

lol mumfrey or daemon would be the superhuman ones

#

daemon would have just used his decompiler that he wrote because he got annoyed at FF

#

I can just pretend to know what I'm doing because asm does so much heavy lifting

golden gust
#

not super human

#

just a masochist

#

which is practically a super power in some industries

vernal moth
#

I edit obfuscated compiled TS, I think i qualify as a masochist

ancient bolt
#

okay this killed you last time @golden gust , what do you think of this one:

case Opcodes.IADD: case Opcodes.LADD: case Opcodes.FADD: case Opcodes.DADD:
case Opcodes.ISUB: case Opcodes.LSUB: case Opcodes.FSUB: case Opcodes.DSUB:
case Opcodes.IMUL: case Opcodes.LMUL: case Opcodes.FMUL: case Opcodes.DMUL:
case Opcodes.IDIV: case Opcodes.LDIV: case Opcodes.FDIV: case Opcodes.DDIV:
case Opcodes.IREM: case Opcodes.LREM: case Opcodes.FREM: case Opcodes.DREM:
case Opcodes.INEG: case Opcodes.LNEG: case Opcodes.FNEG: case Opcodes.DNEG:
case Opcodes.ISHL: case Opcodes.LSHL:
case Opcodes.ISHR: case Opcodes.LSHR:
case Opcodes.IUSHR: case Opcodes.LUSHR:
case Opcodes.IAND: case Opcodes.LAND:
case Opcodes.IOR: case Opcodes.LOR:
case Opcodes.IXOR: case Opcodes.LXOR:
case Opcodes.LCMP:
case Opcodes.FCMPL: case Opcodes.FCMPG:
case Opcodes.DCMPL: case Opcodes.DCMPG:
#

honestly doesn't seem that bad to me since they are grouped reasonably

golden gust
#

the alignment saddens me

#

otherwise, could be worse

#

There, there is understandable order and beats the standard of how many god damned lines that would be

#

But, I mean, I've never exactly been a hardcore stickler of formatting guidelines so long as you can argue you err on the side of readability

ancient bolt
#

will have to look at it for a while to know if it's worth the extra formatting burden

#

I'm thinking it probably doesn't

golden gust
#

probably not, auto formatters probs gonna fight you there anyways

cosmic raft
#

I'd just have them normally imo

golden gust
#

See, I like the LOC count reduction and the sane organisation

#

I got a wide screen, not a tall screen, is my view point on the formatting guideline bible preachery

ancient bolt
#

the real fix is intellij should allow folding on long case blocks like that

#

so I can just collapse it in my editor without affecting the code

golden gust
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Their auto folding stuff is generally nice, and like, I'm not a huge fan of codefold comments, but πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

ashen cliff
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Anyone got MC working with Dragonwell WISP2?

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My modpack runs with it, you just can't join. kekwhyper Thanks Netty.

twin lagoon
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tf is dragonwell

ancient bolt
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After writing that I get how to write a Java decompiler now lol. What's there is definitely the beginnings of one, except for the fact it throws away most of the data

twin lagoon
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someone ping the yatopia people

woven otter
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@twin lagoon

ashen cliff
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@twin lagoon

untold copper
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@twin lagoon

ashen cliff
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Hell itself.

woven otter
twin lagoon
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it gets worse every time don't worry about it

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thank you alibaba for delivering excellent dragonwell docker images

vernal moth
twin lagoon
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Unrecognized VM option 'UseWisp2' nice

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wait does dragonwell 11 not support wisp2 KEKWHYPER

ashen cliff
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Don't care. I'm using Java 8.

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Since it will be supported forever. kekwhyper

twin lagoon
ancient bolt
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So don't hold your breath, esp if we ever want paperweight to get done..

vernal moth
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Yeah we need to get a mvp ontop master

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Same with hangar

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Improvements can come over time, just need to get the core functionality working first

twin lagoon
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@ashen cliff regular paper works fine KEKWHYPER

ashen cliff
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Yeah. Since a new version of Netty has a fix for that.

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But 1.6.4 doesn't.

golden gust
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erm

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if you hate yourself, you can generally just put the needed parts of netty into the classpath before the server jar and fire up that way

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shoooould work

ashen cliff
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Or I could just blacklist netty from getting transformed.

twin lagoon
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that's balkan engineering

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or that

golden gust
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I don't think netty has really changed in a way which has required code changes in years

ashen cliff
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So I can blacklist: thread names, package names or class names.

twin lagoon
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@mossy vessel panda_flush

twin lagoon
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wtf

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⚰️ nmf wants to me dead

mossy vessel
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That's how I feel this morning

twin lagoon
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The following things have come to my attention

  1. You hate me:
    This is, unfortunately, pretty clear by your lack of response.

  2. You want me dead:
    Unwanted interaction with me means you dislike me. Disliking me means you probably want me to not have any good luck in life. Probably want me dead.

golden gust
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can confirm

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yeeth urself

twin lagoon
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i am being THREATENED by a PAPER CORE TEAM MEMBER

ashen cliff
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Core team.

mossy vessel
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sadge

lean kiln
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i am being THREATENED by a PAPER CORE TEAM MEMBER

golden gust
lean kiln
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.cat

twin lagoon
golden gust
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awwwwhhh, you have feelings?

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cute.

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Go play chicken on the autobahn

olive garden
twin lagoon
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credits to @cunning raft PepeLa

olive garden
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oh then it sucks

granite axle
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where do these videos keep coming from

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i see them everywhere

woven otter
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no