thats just you being you ded
#general
visual egret
royal kernel
Who plays survival
visual egret
oh ffs
spare venture
What is configurate anyway? I see it mentioned a lot
spare venture
Thanks
visual egret
was legit about to do this
quasi valley
k
visual egret
k
worn ember
k
astral knot
Using the bstats API, I combined a sample of 100 random plugins with the 10 top plugins registered on the site.
I then filtered through all plugins that reported their server software.
This was the result... although I have no idea why the heck "Cheetah" is so popular.
visual egret
wtf is Cheetah
astral knot
more importantly, how does it have a 1.5% market share
worn ember
theres also global stats on bstats btw
true canyon
It's really nice to see tacospigot so far down the list
worn ember
lol
gentle crow
Does someone know a plugin that give the person a tellraw command?
astral knot
r/ syntax, tellraw is vanilla; many tools exist to generate them
https://www.minecraftjson.com/ is the most popular
limber knotBOT
tacospigot is bork
visual egret
I didn't knew you can make custom commands
what
limber knotBOT
It was ahead of its time
olive marlin
You can give players access to built in tellraw command.
limber knotBOT
but now it's past it
plays sad violin music
It cannot even stop on windows without crashing last time I tried it
gentle crow
I mean more like for example I type /story (or wathever) that the console than does something like this to that person tellraw @p ["",{"text":"A long time ago..
visual egret
eww spigot api
olive marlin
You can use aliases.
There's commands.yml which would work for it.
.g bukkit commands.yml
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://bukkit.fandom.com/wiki/Commands.yml
gentle crow
Oh yeah I forgot that you can use @p in aliases for vanilla commands
thought that woudn't work
astral knot
Also, if you are using tellraw in the first place, you could always go full vanilla and use /trigger
gentle crow
because it doesnt for plugins
visual egret
also @s
gentle crow
Thanks guys ^^
limber knotBOT
I see that paperchan still lives on
wraith trail
wtf is Cheetah
maybe this? https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/CHEETAH/ only thing that I can find on google
never heard of it, hasn't been touched since 2014
astral knot
Still confused as to why so many servers use it
astral knot
probably
limber knotBOT
Cheetah might be a private mcm fork
spare venture
surprised never heard of that
wraith trail
https://bstats.org/global/bukkit they have global stats
limber knotBOT
Or Chinese spyware
astral knot
I realised a few secs after I posted; a waste of like 10 mins
spare venture
cheetah is a hosting company
astral knot
Although, to be fair, ProtocolLib is one of the plugins reporting it
spare venture
but its a dead host so idk
spare venture
spigot dead software 😉
wraith trail
its possible it does not report to bstats
had assumed the global stats were taken from the server brand on all plugins reporting, not the server reporting itself
spare venture
purpur didnt have its own reporting until recently
golden gust
god fucking
waxen panther
god fucking
dusk marten
god fucking
golden gust
I just spent the last like 2 hours tryna debug this system not booting
just toasted the mbr of the 2nd disk
spare venture
😦
golden gust
wtf hetzner
ashen cliff
I see that Hetzner interface from light years away.
golden gust
Also
wtf is wrong with their KVM
I reset the video settings at one point and it just went 10 miles of weird
ashen cliff
Broken VGA cables.
They once gave me KVM access... to a machine that had disabled VGA. 
visual egret
git: 'fukt' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
astral knot
On the previous subject, even excluding global stats, just relying on protocolLib's report alone means that over 800 servers are currently using something called Cheetah; a dead fork and a dead host don't really explain that.
dusk marten
https://pastebin.com/DfqfZJGb this might explain why cheetah has such high uses and not many mentions as well as being very selective about their plugins
Though, why the hell is it broadcasting metrics to bstats?
void void
Anyone know of a good way or plugin to disable Totem of Undying use?
turbid spade
mental meadow
What's not to understand?
I'd be really careful tho, discord is known to ban people with invalid payment information if they have an active subscription
astral knot
Anyone know of a good way or plugin to disable Totem of Undying use?
This plugin is listed on spigot and appears to have perms that let you do that: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/supertotems.89874/
You can also write a plugin to do that via EntityResurrectEvent
You could also just delete totems with a mcfunction.
void void
Thank you sir
visual egret
Is it me or do all mobile screenshot look kinda weird when close to text and stuff
hazy gulch
are you sure
quaint notch
please help .....
golden gust
gentle crow
Is it possible to make the string length longer? [Invalid chat component: Unterminated string at line 1 column 4085 path $[8].hoverEvent.contents[18].color]
golden gust
you can't increase the limit
But, that's not a limit issue
that,s a "your component is borked" issue
gentle crow
commands block runs it fine though
its a tellraw command I try to run [tellraw @p ["",{"te.....] its over 2000 char though
hot hamlet
Would having the MySQL for the server on a HDD and not an SSD have any noticeable impact on performance
golden gust
imagine if HDDs where slower...
waxen panther
visual egret
wow!
golden gust
Now, outside of eco, most plugins will do their transactions off the main thread
hot hamlet
I mean for plugin data. Surely its not that big of a deal
golden gust
those transactions pretty much will be slower
so long as your plugins aren't being stupid, that shouldn't be an issue
"dont be stupid" is a big ask for plugins, especially as most devs messing with mysql have 0 clue of what they're doing
vernal moth
Somebody on HN just compared a hiv vaccine with ML/gradient decent
Thats enough internet for today
sullen phoenix
Where is PaperChan?
vernal moth
"another way to think about this is that, when your body is exposed to an antigen, it runs a massively parallel search algorithm to find good antibodies in a truly massive space of possible antibodies. Unfortunately, most people, when exposed to real HIV or to prior vaccine attempts, get stuck in a bunch of not-fantastic local minima. The idea is to specifically aim the search in the right direction so, after a few rounds, it can find a better solution."
hot hamlet
Oof. Good to know.
Basically I want to use a vps for holding backups of the main severs and to have the mysql storage. Would that even be a good idea. Assuming I get an ssd vps
olive marlin
I wouldn't keep your data and backups on the same machine.
potent fossil
"to hold backups and to have mysql storage"
already sounds like a horrible plan
separate your backups from all your prod infrastructure
floral mesa
I wouldnt hold databases on a backup server, but I would generally use it for smaller applications that are not critical if I would have the resources to spare
hot hamlet
separate your backups from all your prod infrastructure
Was going to use a hdd storage as a backup for the backup+MySQL xD
worn ember
print the binary out
frank otter
b2?
potent fossil
like s3 but way cheaper
worn ember
s3?
potent fossil
there's also digital ocean spaces for $5 a month and you get unmetered 250gb
worn ember
ah yes
potent fossil
.g s3
limber knotBOT
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worn ember
nice
limber knotBOT
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worn ember
use samsung galaxy s3 to store your backups
worn ember
.halp
limber knotBOT
frank otter
.g help
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) The Help (film) A 2011 period drama film written and directed by Tate Taylor and based on Kathryn Stockett's 2009... (https://duckduckgo.com/The_Help_(film)?v=i&kp=1)
frank otter
are you ok
hazy gulch
the help
potent fossil
That bot just uses duckduckgo because I wasn't about to pay for google search api access or write a google scraper
So the results are pretty ass
vernal moth
Can't you just prefix everything with !g? 😂
potent fossil
yeah but then it just returns the url to the google search result and not the actual result in chat
so you may as well have just gone to google
.g !g see
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://google.com/search?hl=en&q=see
unkempt drift
why not use pencil?
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by Machine Maker#3443 - this thing - result 3 of 9
waxen panther
vernal moth
Ty
visual egret
https://kennytv.eu/ wtf is the css
potent fossil
tf happened on march 17th
potent fossil
ashen cliff
A true moment.
ancient bolt
wraith trail
why not use pencil?
scissors can grab the wikipedia summaries (see recent aws s3 search). My google parser won't do that
yet
potent fossil
yea
potent fossil
yep
By default it looks for an 'answer' field, then an 'abstract' field, then a related link, then a definition, and finally a bang redirect. It tries its best to find a good answer, but that API is lacking at best
wraith trail
yeah I found the same thing, wish there was a decent search api
google has their custom search engine thing where you can make up to 1k non commercial requests per day, but the results there are less than ddg
potent fossil
Are you paying for an API key?
wraith trail
hell no
potent fossil
Scraping?
wraith trail
yeah
potent fossil
Ah ok
wraith trail
and it works okish
the descriptions and titles keep randomly getting out of sync with the url and I haven't spent any time to figure out why, so thats something
and my programming abilities as a whole are not great, so code quality is low
potent fossil
Well at least we have two potential options lmao, other than just going and searching for yourself
Grr my headphones will not switch to my phone
Nvm stupid browser tab was "playing audio" so the headphones were stuck on it
worthy shore
does anyone use pterodactyl?
twin lagoon
yes
worthy shore
is it easy to install?
visual egret
I did it so you should be able to too
warm anchor
Oskar do you volunteer to be the lowest standard? 
visual egret
why not 😎
peak dirge
What a relief. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/18-956_d18f.pdf
potent fossil
You're about 7 hours late on that one 😛
peak dirge
tl;dr: the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled against Oracle, saying Google’s copying of the Java API was fair use
waxen panther
yay
potent fossil
(just a jab good to hear other thoughts on it ofc)
peak dirge
You're about 7 hours late on that one 😛
Yes but didn’t see it till now
potent fossil
They're back down in a lower court for something else now iirc from earlier discussion
worn ember
@warm anchor just had to play with a techies mid who did fuck all xD
isnt it wonderful
void void
floral mesa
@peak dirge I really wouldnt want to know what would happen if oracle got its way, considering they could then strongarm groups that rebuild openjdk.
and oracle doesnt have a good track record when it comes to leaving OSS alone.
barren whale
that case was surprisingly comprehensive, I'm glad they were able to understand all of the technical jargon and use it but also simplify it for people who aren't programmers
potent fossil
being that it was in the supreme court, it would be more than just oracle who could strongarm people, it would set a national precedent for any API
barren whale
yeah for sure
it would've screwed openjdk for sure, i'm sure they're glad google fought the war for them
i mean i'm sure they've been fighting themselves
but still
golden gust
don't see how it would screw openjdk
last I knew the general issue was that google basically straight up copied their API
barren whale
well, isn't openjdk basically an alternate implementation for java? Couldn't the jvm itself be considered an api in a way?
barren whale
are they actually
waxen panther
yes
barren whale
welp
waxen panther
i think redhat maybe took over maintenance or something
golden gust
openjdk is literally oracles thing
spring mango
Love the notepad++ motto in the installer.
barren whale
everyday you learn soemthing new
i thought there was the oracle jdk and the openjdk jdk and that they were two different things
potent fossil
different implementations, same api
floral mesa
redhat has its own build of openjdk
barren whale
so now i just look stupid, which I am
golden gust
oracle has their own proprietry distribution of openjdk which has some extra patches on it
barren whale
different implementations, same api
that's what I thought, but i thought they were owned by different organizations
so that's why I was saying if oracle had won, openjdk could have been in trouble
but now i know that's not true
quaint notch
wither skull farm?
waxen panther
wither skull farm?
pastel pivot
wither skull farm?
wither skull farm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX6XBTPv82E
woven otter
wither skull farm?
left swift
brocc is never safe inside his mind
quaint notch
yes @woven otter
woven otter
ok
quaint notch
ok
woven otter
is it
quaint notch
ok
woven otter
no
quaint notch
alright
magic river
different implementations, same api
No, same implementation, same API 😛
potent fossil
ok
merry talon
ugh, $7.99 10 day shipping on newegg seems so antiquated when amazon will literally deliver it today for free
I think this might be worth the extra 50 not having to wait that long
warm anchor
Amazon has better return too but then you already pay for prime
wraith trail
Go to discord.gg/moddedmc or something. This is neither a support channel or for modded minecraft
magic river
golden gust
See, here's the thing with piracy
I get it, the people behind the works need to be paid if we want more
But, then they do stupid shit like this
and it's hard to stand behind them and question why somebody would wanna "obtain" their media
magic river
drink verification can
quaint notch
built an enderman farm
left swift
built an jroy farm
quaint notch
building one rn
limber knotBOT
wat
cosmic raft
yes zml
limber knotBOT
i've known a bunch of people with lg phones
they're not one of the top models, but they're phones people buy
magic river
LG made beautiful messes for phones
Like they looked good and seemed like they should be awesome but were just... not
Problems with overheating or screens messing up or whatever
golden gust
My experience with LG is that their products always seemed kinda shoddy
Like, the LG cookie would flex enough to bust the screen easily, had many people with LG laptops or monitors which creaked when you picked them up, to the point that I couldn't see myself buying one of their phones, rather go like samsung or motorola maybe
pulsar wigeon
have had my lg phone for 6+ years now without issues tbh
golden gust
and it's like, their newest phone with the rotaty screen
pulsar wigeon
think i replaced the battery once
golden gust
Like, it looked interesting, but, I don't see the practicality in it
celest coyote
I used the LG V20 for 2 years
nice phone but was kinda glitchy and battery life sucked
shame they ruined took out everything which made it unique in the newer generations
void void
RIP LG
magic river
They've had issues due to being second best at OLED and AMOLED too
Like, they couldn't use Samsung screens, screens are supposed to be their thing, but sometimes their screens were just ass
merry talon
they still make the best TVs though
golden gust
They just always sorta underdelivered in the phone market, so companies like samsung just drastically like outshone them
Like, I mean, these days, you're basically either a samsung or an apple user
and sure, there are many other companies like oneplus and hauwei, but, I've never really seen many people with them
void void
and sure, there are many other companies like oneplus and hauwei, but, I've neve...
you've never seen huawei?
makes sense
donald trump ruined it
or else it probably would've been popular(at least in my country)
golden gust
Well, My mate had one, and before that, there where kiiiiinda popular like early 2010s
Nah, they died out here far before trump was even a factor
void void
then dont use tiktok
golden gust
Yes
magic river
I had a huawei phone
merry talon
or reddit
magic river
Or, well, hisense
void void
yeah like PUBG mobile
magic river
They're good midrange phones that punch above their weight but have shit cameras
golden gust
She had one but then it sorta like died
void void
good gaming phones
golden gust
I think it was the USB port on the thing
I told her about replacements but said I wasn't 100% on it, as even when we did get a connection it didn't seem to wanna charge
golden gust
So, never bothered risking replacing it as she already had another phone, just wanted to see if she could use it
magic river
Like their screens, SoCs, and batteries were all better than anything else you could buy for that price but the camera was probably worse than comparable midrange phones
void void
yeah heard their cameras got better with the p20
vestal jasper
all 3 LG phones I had broke down with like 1 year of normal use
magic river
Now they can't use TSMC or Samsung for fabs and I think can't get new ARM designs so I don't know what they're doing
Probably sucking
golden gust
The issue with mid range is that when you look at your options you're generally outside of the mainstream models for a price which ain't really too far from the flagships
vestal jasper
the fingerprint scanners on all 3 of them actually broke with almost exactly 1 year of use each
golden gust
so, at least back in those days, you'd kinda be a moron to not just go lower endish or save up and get a proper flagship
nowadays the gap is pretty severe, so there is a lot of sense there, especially if you don't need OTT specs for a phone
pretty much yea
that's why I generally suggest avoiding the non-flagships if you want a device which is gonna last longer than its warrenty
and I think these days phone manfs are getting the wrong idea of what we want
take the headphone jack
Like, yea, I get it, many people want phones to be slimmer, and that jack does get in the way when you consider all the extra bulk around it
But, is anybody really asking for their phones to be that slim?
void void
But, is anybody really asking for their phones to be *that* slim?
in the future phones will be like scrolls
apparently
golden gust
"Hey, look at how thin this device is, they couldn't even fit a headphone jack in there! Heck, it's even a foldab... WAIT..."
magic river
I bet the gear for mmWave support takes up about the same space as a headphone jack
vestal jasper
I'd rather my phone be slightly thicker if it means I can charge my phone and listen to music with wired headphones at the same time, without having to pay extra for the privilege.
magic river
Take out the shit 5G I'm never going to get to use and give me back my headphone jack
void void
I'd rather my phone be slightly thicker if it means I can charge my phone and li...
i dont like wireless headphones
vestal jasper
I don't like having to charge my headphones once or twice a day to be able to use them
magic river
Although USB DACs can be much higher quality and will be consistent across phones instead of hoping they didn't cheap out on that part
vestal jasper
I'd rather spend the money on home hifi stuff tbh
waxen panther
like all phones? :p
vestal jasper
If I'm using my phone for music, I'm out and about and background's likely going to degrade music quality somewhat anyway
or in bed ig
void void
not really compared to like 3 years ago
vestal jasper
@waxen panther flushed
void void
if thats what u mean
golden gust
they've been lurking up over the years
void void
cause tech improved?
remember when Samsungs could explode?
not sure if it was s7 or note7 but one phone did
good thing you didnt i guess
golden gust
For me, bar the odd "lazing in bed game", I don't really use my phone for much else other than the odd YT vid and such while on the pooper
Like, the price of phones these days and the fact I generally prefer to buy outright vs being stuck on a contract, eeer...
magic river
March Madness is over
void void
yeah
magic river
I was talking about their final four game though, yeah
void void
ik absolutely nothing about college basketball though
but i used to be a nba fan back when the raptors won the title in 2019
magic river
Neither do I, this is my first time watching in like a decade
minor badge
how'd it go?
untold copper
very cool
I knew everything, so that was good, but in the end paper was still a mess in terms of handwriting and all XD
jade flax
howdy proxi
untold copper
photo of bigbrain me doing 36-16 wrong 3 times before doing it by writing and getting 20
warm anchor
Idk why but seeing him has two different way of writing m makes me annoyed
warm anchor
Your m sometimes has a tail and sometimes don’t
And weird part it is only when m is on the end then you add a tail
And when it’s in middle of word you don’t
potent fossil
better than people who call ω a w
warm anchor
Usually in cursive it’s the other way around 
untold copper
I dont write in cursive, not anymore lol
warm anchor
I can tell...
untold copper
yeah I suppose that's true
potent fossil
thicc w gang
untold copper
yes
potent fossil
my professor actually docks a lot of points if you verbally call ω "w"
left swift
Eternity handwriting police
My brain thinks too fast for my hand to keep up so I always got yelled at for my handwriting
Keyboard better ooga booga
warm anchor
Eternity handwriting police
untold copper
My brain thinks too fast for my hand to keep up so I always got yelled at for my...
nomana too smart for his own hand
left swift
A curse 
hazy gulch
stop thinking and you will have perfect handwriting
untold copper
take off ur thinking caps
warm anchor
Bold of you to assume I think when I write 
waxen panther
golden gust
!warn @cerulean fractal not the place to advertise
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Warned Computerjul#7376 (not the place to advertise) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.
waxen panther
!warn zzzcat too epic 😳
minor badge
@waxen panther broccolai 😔
untold copper
you have a sucky roommate
potent fossil
I hate your roommate
untold copper
I mean its still better than having a more sucky roommate
spare venture
He’s gonna sell it for $1300 now
untold copper
I dislike him more now
spare venture
I mean you’d do the same
potent fossil
I mean I hated your roommate a while ago when you told me he had a few of them
untold copper
yes that
spare venture
You wouldn’t sell it for the going rate?
potent fossil
and I would not scalp people for the monetary benefit, i'm not that shitty of a person despite what some people here might think
spare venture
Idk how shorty that is
untold copper
simple is cool
spare venture
Shitty
untold copper
bai 👋
spare venture
But yeah I couldn’t see myself spending $1k on that
Idk I entered the Newegg raffle, if I got two 3070s I’d sell one for what people are willing to pay
magic river
btw because of the way Google v Oracle was decided doing something like, say, creating a new implementation of Bukkit from scratch to get past the license issues would probably not work
It's kind of mostly the law now that APIs are covered by copyright and one of the reasons Google's use fell under fair use was that it wasn't competing with Sun/Oracle's use
I don't know if other carve outs for interoperability in things like the DMCA would help you but I think they only would if your goal was to actually be interoperable and not just close enough to make porting easy
upbeat kelp
does java 15 support paper
cedar spade
Yes Java 15 has a special compatibility mode for Paper /s
golden gust
wrong way around there
upbeat kelp
oh ok
golden gust
But, yea, java 15 works with paper
golden gust
if you mean in a batch file, yes
upbeat kelp
ok
upbeat kelp
how to get friends
olive garden
I'm sure wikihow has tutorials
chrome oriole
Guys, can anyone recommend cheap and decent server hosting?
olive marlin
Can second Hetzner, though they tend to have issues if you have players from NA.
But just slap a tcpshield in front and you're good.
Unless you meant shared, then bloomhost, extravm, dedicatedmc are the ones being recommended around here, iirc.
acoustic gale
Guys, can anyone recommend cheap and decent server hosting?
if you dont mind shared, humbleservers
potent fossil
Ah yeah love it, shameless self promo from a humbleservers support staff member
olive marlin
Later this year, NASA is launching new telescope: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Webb_Space_Telescope
It kinda looks like a futuristic spaceship with a big ass weapon on top.
Can't wait for all the jokes ION CANNON READY.
potent fossil
vernal moth
If they finally launch it
Cause like
You know
Initial launch date was what?
2007?
It was build in 2016 and has been in testing since, they wanted to launch in 2018 but delayed to fix stuff, then covid delayed it to 2021
They initallly started to work on it in 1996 apperently 😂
wraith oracle
here I was thinking IJ couldn't really make my life any easier
but 2021.1 introduces built-in WSL support
it just works
I thought it'd make me use git and the JDK from windows considering I am running it from there but it automatically detects git from wsl instead and warns you if you're using a Windows JDK in a WSL environment
livid tartan
Can help me.. I get error log again.. I dont know tipe error
upbeat falconBOT
Can help me.. I get error log again.. I dont know tipe error
<:cat_what:67942498...
Requested by ch3154#7153
olive marlin
- Next time use #paper-help
- Download world edit, otherwise world guard won't work
- Your JoinCommands plugin configuration is broken - paste it in some online yaml linter.
novel horizon
Damn need to update java too later ^^
wraith oracle
and remove ClearLagg
wraith oracle
I don't know about LagAssist and LagRemover, if they work like ClearLag they're probably doing nothing
wraith oracle
I personally do not trust any plugin that claims to remove lag
it's just too good to be true most part of the time
tribal flicker
I use clear lagg, none of their remove lag features but just to remove mobs after a certain amount of time. Easiest way to do it, doesn't cause any additional lag it's just there. Yes you can limit mobs in a chunk but people can use water and push a bunch of entities in a single chunk if they wanted to
novel horizon
lol, Pterodactyl already uses jdk-11 nice ^^
undone crest
DynMap or BlueMap!
go
untold meadow
pl3xmap
visual egret
lol, Pterodactyl already uses jdk-11 nice ^^
jdk-16 for bungeecord (and my adapted egg to support velocity)
waxen panther
visual egret
its #3 on treding brocc 
waxen panther
i think you're missrembering my age
i am sadly not teen enough to explore the trending tab or watch mr beast
quasi valley
instead you watch anime like REAL men 
quasi valley
it won't be long until youtubers start wholeheartedly screaming into a mic for the entire duration of their videos
limber knotBOT
I don't watch technoblade ever since he teamed up with dream
quasi valley
did dream ever admit to cheating in his speedrun?
visual egret
been watching since like 200k tbh
visual egret
funny guy when hes not with dream
limber knotBOT
Dream never confessed
quasi valley
amazing
granite axle
https://javadoc.lucyy.me/lucycommonlib/1.4.3/me/lucyy/common/format/TextFormatter.html anyone up for rating my javadoc?
i made it pretty
quasi valley
that's a crying duck out of 10 from me
visual egret
nice
granite axle
is that good or bad
ashen cliff
Dream never confessed
A true Balkan chad.
visual egret
search bar isn't styled though
quasi valley
it's not good or bad, it's a crying duck
green edge
I don't know about LagAssist and LagRemover, if they work like ClearLag they're ...
(From plugin author): Lagassist is intended to be a toolset to solve lag, so the amount of help that lagassist can provide depends on how you configure it.
I've used it in production for some of the servers I deal with, with really good results. (Stacking, Limiter, ChunkHopper predominantly)
visual egret
does stacking mobs even help
green edge
In itself it does more bad than good
green edge
But if you couple it with limiting max mobs per chunk, you can reduce mob counts without players crying that their farms are not producing as much as before
So instead of 20 non-stacked zombie entities, you can have 1 stacked one
ashen cliff
So 19 new zombies can spawn.
green edge
Only when used with mob limiting, if you don't use that feature it does more bad than good
green edge
It's a easy replacement for servers that focus a lot on spawners. What i do for them is limit mob counts per chunk drastically (5 entities max), and use stacking so players don't notice any dip in drops
This is good for the players as they aren't affected by the change, and as the owner you can be more strict in how many mobs you allow per chunk
which reduces lag
If you only use stacking in itself without any limiting feature, what @ashen cliff specified happens, and it does more bad than good
In an ideal world, it wouldn't be required and owners wouldn't design their servers with poor gameplay mechanics in mind in the first place
but it's not ideal, so we need to find alternatives to make a smooth transition to. This is one example of what lagassist offers here that can help
Same goes with the chunkhoppers
On factions, you see people prefering to make carpets for their mob grinders, and if you limit hopper use they will cry unless you bring an alternative: chunkhoppers.
vernal moth
Or you tell em to suck it up
twin lagoon
see discord spam ain't a problem when you mute servers
wild escarp
blocking
twin lagoon
wraith oracle
that's exactly the community I am looking for when making a server /s
green edge
Yeah, discord spam you can fix
but players leaving less so
On competitive factions, people are super sensitive to anything they feel is unfair
Like major changes to economy caused by reduced drops
wild escarp
mob stacking by our dear friend Billy
twin lagoon
it's gonna die pretty soon with the new blacklist changes
wraith oracle
just like hunger games
green edge
minigames are not really affected by the blacklist changes
since you can't really monetize them anyway
To be fair, i've had a client that got mailed by mojang
he completely ignored their mails
They threatened to blacklist in a few days
deadline passed
no blacklist
twin lagoon
it'll happen
green edge
Happened a few months ago
and since no blacklist
but yeah, my feeling is once 1.17 airs
vernal moth
Enforcement is ramping up again
green edge
it's going to be a pain
vernal moth
They are serious
Play by the rules or get booted
And the rules are very very generous already
wraith oracle
well, not that generous
you have to get creative to monetize a server and actually make profit
green edge
For eastern europe they aren't
vernal moth
Have you read the commercial usage guidelines?
green edge
because you are dealing with a national culture that is against non-pay-2-win purchases
vernal moth
You can do basically anything that isn't unfair
wraith oracle
yeah but then you start second-guessing whether your features are unfair to other players
twin lagoon
the eastern european minecraft community is garbage anyways
it's just cracked servers they'll deal with it sooner or later
they've got janky launchers provided they'll patch it out
visual egret
Isn't Europe theoretically the best place to host?
limber knotBOT
depends on your group that you are targetting
twin lagoon
that's very true but the majority is probably US
limber knotBOT
If you want to target balkan users, hosting it in the US would be a bit dumb
ashen cliff
Balkan users only use KGB Hosting hosted servers.
Like, we really want to self host or at least host locally, but we ain't paying 300€+ for old Xeons.
visual egret
what if i want to target north korea?
void void
what if i want to target north korea?
throw a raspberry pi with a wifi hotspot attached into north korea with a parachute from 11,000m on a plane.
void void
how
visual egret
no wiki and unmaintained
void void
wha....
tropic flame
where can I find the EULA where it says "you can only charge for cosmetic features" etc? that used to be a simple google search but i can't find it anymore
visual egret
i dont think it defined it in that way
ashen cliff
something something gameplay advantage something something.
tropic flame
so there's no updated document stating those rules nowadays? except for that one post in 2014 at the now locked minecraftforums or whatever
actually it's at the old mojang blog which now just redirects to minecraft.net :^) beautiful
so the document's gone
golden gust
yea, the doc was replaced with the brand guidelines I think
there is some document somewhere, but, the things have changed to be more "clear"
tropic flame
bruh
golden gust
commercial guidelines
tropic flame
yeah but those are just
umbral tiger
uwu @twin lagoon 
visual egret
hm edge is interesting
umbral tiger
kenny let me uwu at michael pls 🥺
visual egret
kennykneny
twin lagoon
umbral tiger
quasi valley
kenny let me uwu at michael pls 🥺
no. 
umbral tiger
left swift
U dont know? 
vestal jasper
uwu @umbral tiger
meager tusk
Fact!
twin lagoon
i did not ask
visual egret
convesation krusic
vernal moth
I actually agree with md5 here, lol
visual egret
you saying spigot will run well on a pi?
meager tusk
Well, depends on what version you use.
ashen cliff
It will run ok for up to 2/4 people.
meager tusk
KGB Spigot runs amazing in a pi.
visual egret
literally said spigot wont run well, i reccomend <forks> but you dont need to use them
then he kicks me
visual egret
thing is: that was an extra note on top of my answer
meager tusk
why do i feel like it wasn't
visual egret
which was: run raspbian lite, compile spigot through buildtools and run the jarfile
meager tusk
But that's not an answer to whether or not spigot runs well
that's instructions on how to start a spigot server
😐
quasi valley
bruh.
vagrant marlin
atleast from what i understoof
vestal jasper
Doesn't md5 use netbeans or eclipse
cunning raft
yes
meager tusk
he uses netbeans
vestal jasper
Nice
cunning raft
he uses eclipse now
vagrant marlin
yep the question was "how do i make/host a minecraft 1.16.5 spigot server on raspberry pi?"
meager tusk
lol
cunning raft
used to use netbeans tho
vestal jasper
He's moving up in the world. Respect.
meager tusk
Yeah.
umbral tiger
uwu <@158577328874586112>
VICCCCYYYYYY
visual egret
and i added that as a note at the end of my answer: spigot may not run well, so i reccomend <fork> but you dont need to use it
wraith oracle
I wonder why he didn't just go straight to IJ
cunning raft
you can tell because he added the eclipse compiler to spigot's pom for some reason
wraith oracle
and neither is Eclipse
I haven't said so, they work pretty damn well
meager tusk
I wasn't responding to you
wraith oracle
IJ does offer a good set of useful features to improve productivity though
vernal moth
you can tell because he added the eclipse compiler to spigot's pom for some reas...
So that build tools users don't need to install an jdk
Instead of just distirbuting binaries
vagrant marlin
i mean, intellij is way more heavy on the computer than eclipse/nerbeans
cunning raft
ah right
cunning raft
i forgot buildtools was a thing
vernal moth
Yeah I sometimes manage to purge that knowledge from my brain too
wraith oracle
i mean, intellij is way more heavy on the computer than eclipse/nerbeans
is it, I am running it just fine on a potato right now, with discord open, mind you
vernal moth
And then it comes back to haunt me
vagrant marlin
is it, I am running it just fine on a potato right now, with discord open, mind ...
didnt say that its "heavy", just heavier than those two
all three are still pretty light
wide chasm
Depends on what you do, on lower end devices, running intellij, with for example a test server and Minecraft running it can be quite intensive
vagrant marlin
mhm
tropic flame
is it, I am running it just fine on a potato right now, with discord open, mind ...
well, it is the heaviest. the other two are not the most lightweight either tho 
VSCode masterrace
vagrant marlin
notepad
meager tusk
vscode is an electron application so
visual egret
but pure JS!!!
vernal moth
Vscode is a glorified text editor
wraith oracle
vscode is the exception when it comes to slow electron applications
tropic flame
vscode is an electron application so
yes but somehow microsoft can make VSCode feel fast asf while the discord client is complete horseshit
wraith oracle
but coding Java on it is just painful
meager tusk
vscode is good for everything but Java for me lol
tropic flame
idk, for minecraft stuff it's fine for me
for other things, well, if you need a GUI you won't find any window builder extension which is sad
visual egret
java is a pain in the ass in vscode
tropic flame
besides windowbuilder i don't miss anything and i came from eclipse lmfao
meager tusk
you miss the window builder?
twin lagoon
Idriz!
meager tusk
Michael!
tropic flame
yeah the windowbuilder extension to make swing GUIs
twin lagoon
tropic flame
that's literally all
wraith oracle
last time I tried to code Java on VSCode I kinda was expecting it to suggest fixes for the errors
vernal moth
Mfw swing
wraith oracle
it does not
tropic flame
vscode's java extension uses eclipse's engine on the background but without the stupid crap like "compile with errors"
wide chasm
Swing is pretty good, last time I used it I got accidental animations /s
tropic flame
honest question, can you make GUIs with your OS's look and feel with AWT?
because you can with Swing
you can't with JavaFX (afaik)
and third party libs don't count
wide chasm
I've never used AWT, so I don't know
Swing has the same look and feel as the OS, but it's super annoying to work with imo
JavaFX doesn't feel native, but at least it works better in my experience
wraith oracle
you can make it feel native, just not by default
still, I hate fxml
or xml in general
wide chasm
I like XML, but I generally don't touch it and just use scenebuilder
wheat spoke
so was that anime mascot an april fools?
cunning raft
what anime mascot
wheat spoke
i would lmao
vernal moth
Who?
wheat spoke
am i imagining things lmao
vernal moth
What's a paper chan?
visual egret
https://auri.gay/top-secret this person
cunning raft
dk what that is sorry
wheat spoke
ooooh
visual egret
Paper Chan is a fun project contribution to Paper and Paper Project has full right on the contained images inside this pack.
Any utilization of the image should follow Paper’s licensing.
wheat spoke
wait what are we talking about i forgot 🤔
left swift
Hows the jroy farm going
cunning raft
huh
visual egret
who is this?
mental meadow
ooooh she's my twitter header!
visual egret
i posted it like twice
cunning raft
not enough
visual egret
enough
quasi valley
I’m sorry to inform you paper Chan has been dead for almost 5 days now
vagrant marlin
cunning raft
man some people should not be allowed to have nitro
left swift
Post the destiny emote
visual egret
like who jroy
left swift
visual egret
the same people who made it
deep juniper
who murdered paper-chan
I am here, my child. Do not believe these people. I'm still here to share love with all the Paper users! ❤️
vagrant marlin
yess
deep juniper
I have been just busy, that is why I have not been interacting much.
left swift
Cringe time
twin lagoon
vagrant marlin
busy turning servers up to 11
deep juniper
Yes!
deep juniper
Turning minecraft servers up to 11 with Paper since I can remember. ❤️
void void
Hime cut
deep juniper
thats a new one
This is not my first appearance, though. 😉
left swift
Oskar alt
visual egret
i do?
cunning raft
im mixing up the children
visual egret
also i swear you can do that with some api bullshittery on desktop
cunning raft
who was the one without a phone
visual egret
snoopa
left swift
I've never seen oskar and paperchan in the same room js
deep juniper
Paper-chan is Paper-chan, and that is all what matters. 😄
twin lagoon
hopefully
visual egret
you all sus
left swift
Amogus
cunning raft
joy emojicon
warm anchor
Oskar sus
quasi valley
Paper-chan is Paper-chan, and that is all what matters. 😄
dead is dead, that’s all that matters 
warm anchor
Imagine if we have vote ban here... ||Kenny would be long gone||
quasi valley
yeah sure, the weebs would want to get rid of the evidence
warm anchor
lol
left swift
Who is kenny
deep juniper
dead is dead, that’s all that matters <:kappa:527256719617949706>
Lies don't matter. 🤥 ✌️
quasi valley
that’s why you don’t
deep juniper
Not really, I was talking about your lies, my child.
mental meadow
Kneny is still in Phase 1 of grief
left swift
"My child"
warm anchor
poor kneny 
left swift
Stage 2: super grief
Stage 3: extreme grief
And then finally
Stage 4: async grief
deep juniper
Anyways, I'm off to do some business. My children, do not believe the enemy who tries to forge my death. As long as you need my comfort, my comfort will reach you! Spread the word about the Paper software. With love, Paper-chan. ❤️
visual egret
wtf r u on about
quasi valley
a bit of 
unborn vault
hello i have litlle problem with joing on my server can someone help me
vernal moth
Well, this is a cool feature, but firefox decided to lock it behind a flag
visual egret
hello i have litlle problem with joing on my server can someone help me
more detail, https://dontasktoask.com/ and #paper-help
vernal moth
Sucks for firefox users of my website I guess
cunning raft
i get google likes to make their own spec
and firefox tries to push back against that because they don't want to submit to google
but at the end of the day it just hurts users
wraith oracle
I mean, if they don't fight who is gonna
cunning raft
they're not gonna win tho lmfao
wraith oracle
I dislike the idea of google defining the css standard for some reason
vernal moth
It's not a google spec
cunning raft
why aren't they supporting it then
vernal moth
It was first implemented in webkit actually
limber knotBOT
ie is most often the culprit
tropic flame
i get google likes to make their own spec
even though this seems not to be the case, that's Chrome's problem that they make their own spec, not firefox's for not following it :^)
cunning raft
i mean they have the entire market
vernal moth
It's an official spec
cunning raft
what are you gonna do tell them to stop
vernal moth
Just not formally signed then
limber knotBOT
is there even an authority over this?
limber knotBOT
W3C does almost nothing
tropic flame
what are you gonna do tell them to stop
nothing, but that does not mean it's wrong
limber knotBOT
Hell, half of the HTML tags we use aren't supported by W3C (that's an overexageration, but you get the gist)
vernal moth
That's not true
Not with html5
Everything is spec nowadays
The days for quirks mode are long over
topaz mortar
Sucks for firefox users of my website I guess
Have a workaround for backdrop filter.
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-attachment: fixed;
-webkit-background-size: cover;
-moz-background-size: cover;
-o-background-size: cover;
background-size: cover;
body:before {
content: "";
position: fixed;
left: -5%;
top: -5%;
right: 0;
z-index: -1;
display: block;
background-image: url('https://example.com/some.jpg');
background-size:cover;
width: 110%;
height: 110%;
-webkit-filter: blur(15px) contrast(.8) brightness(.5);
-moz-filter: blur(15px) contrast(.8) brightness(.5);
-o-filter: blur(15px) contrast(.8) brightness(.5);
-ms-filter: blur(15px) contrast(.8) brightness(.5);
filter: blur(15px) contrast(.8) brightness(.5);
}
Took me a while to find that workaround. 😄
vernal moth
Ah yes
That clearly will make it more performant
I guess I can shove that shit at firefox users, their fault for choosing a bad browser
And keep my default sheet clean
tropic flame
i will gladly use that, thank you
cunning raft
you're making them cry mini
tropic flame
appreciate your concern
topaz mortar
It's just a workaround for users having a bad life.
visual egret
mfw
thin garnet
hello
void void
hello
worn ember
i really like this new discord feature
vernal moth
Ye
granite axle
its nice but the highlighting is ugly
warm anchor
FINALLY I can see details about the random file a stranger send me in DM!
visual egret
next up: h265 video player?
worn ember
wut
visual egret
h265 encoded video's dont play in discord
wraith oracle
why aren't they supporting it then
kinda late, but here was a convo about it: https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.dev.platform/c/1MN77cE21fE/m/Fej_wGI7AQAJ?pli=1
visual egret
tf is google groups
twin lagoon
mailing lists
wraith oracle
tl;dr: it's more about webrender still not having full coverage of whatever it does
vestal temple
Does minecraft use java.util.zip.ZipFile to open resource packs in server-resource-packs folder?
tropic flame
lmao mailing lists for gen Z
visual egret
google groups just looks like a website from 2009 with modern css style
feels clunky
wraith trail
paper should have a mailing list
cunning raft
subscribe to the github repo
warped panther
Heyyy ^=^
I got a question propably you guys could help me :)
I got an minecraft server on zap-hosting and i recently downloadet a FTB to play together with my friends. Everything worked out well for about 3 weeks and now two of my friends can't join the server. They get immediately an error text who says there is an internal Server problem 😒 i don't have any problem joining the server and the dude from zap-hosting don't find a mistake too. Does anyone has a tip or an idea how i could fix this?
wraith trail
something should be logged on the server
left swift
.paste
wraith trail
oh ok
limber knotBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
left swift
Ya they said ftb pack
wraith trail
you've got like 5 issues there
you've got mystcraft failing to read world data on login
actually it looks like thats the main thing, everything else comes from that
try deleting their playerdata
it's invalid at some spot
warped panther
Okey ^^ I'll try it!
Thank you!
minor badge
you can also edit their NBT to just set their world, such that they don't lose their inventories and whatnot
warped panther
It worked!! Thank you! ^0^)/
warm anchor
left swift
Duck said he liked anime
zealous knot
That is outrageous
warm anchor
Do you read all message? That’s outrageous!
zealous knot
Do you read all message? That’s outrageous!
I asked what i missed because I didn’t real all messages 
warm anchor
void void
this chat has totem of undying 😳
zealous knot
Stop flexing with your public server status and 250 custom emote slots 
granite axle
hello
thin garnet
hi
granite axle
everything went to shit in the spigot discord so im here now
thin garnet
oof
visual egret
thats like comparing one trash can to another
granite axle
your own pc
thorny notch
your own pc
i dont have a static ip
granite axle
dynamic dns or ngrok
granite axle
free hosts are even worse
visual egret
then whats the issue here?