general

[visual egret]

just put that behind TCPShield if you host a public server

[thorny notch]

ngrok costs money

[granite axle]

you cant run a server for free

its not possible

[thorny notch]

is that a challenge?

[granite axle]

no

its a statement

[thorny notch]

ill take it as a challenge

[mossy vessel]

bUt ThiS HoSt oFfeRS free servERs!!!

[thorny notch]

aternos exists, but i want to use my custom plugins

[visual egret]

wanna know what else exsists?

good hardware

[thorny notch]

that costs money

also my wifi already sucks enough, i dont want to eat bandwith with a minecraft server

[minor badge]

@granite axle

[granite axle]

hai! :D

[minor badge]

hai!

[granite axle]

spigot people being meanies :(

[limber knot]

what

[minor badge]

oh?

[thorny notch]

spigot is trash

[limber knot]

myeh, it's not that trash

[thorny notch]

compared to paper, it is

[ashen cliff]

But Paper is Spigot.

[thorny notch]

improved spigot

at one point i tried to make my own server in C#

[limber knot]

I would call it "Spigot but we have gone wild with @Deprecated"

[granite axle]

spigot but async

[limber knot]

Ah, making your own server implementations, never gets old

[thorny notch]

why are you a bot

[granite axle]

irc

[minor badge]

server impls are fun

[thorny notch]

yeah its not as fun as i thought it would be

its a pain

[limber knot]

More complicated things get to be a pain, which is why my implementations remain to be a void world

[short yarrow]

So I was under the impression that optional is used to replace null. I see some people use a mix or just don't use optional at all. Is there any particular case where you would want null instead of optional?

[thorny notch]

im actually working on custom amogus server software now

[minor badge]

optionals means heap allocations

[limber knot]

Optional is just a wrapper hard-reminding someone that something can be null

[wide chasm]

Some people don't like to work with Optional, so will still be using null.

[minor badge]

it's also a case of preference ^

[thorny notch]

optional is like rusts Option, right

[limber knot]

Though usually it is the job of the IDE to remind someone of nullabillity in my honest opinion

[visual egret]

Optionals are lovely

[minor badge]

some day™️ optionals will be as nice to work with as kotlin nullables, haskell Maybes, and rust Options though

[thorny notch]

java needs algebraic data types

[turbid spade]

"Nooo!! You cant just put the jar in a folder and import it and instantiate the class!!!!"

haha Core.load go brr

[limber knot]

Wit till we get Optional Optionals

[minor badge]

now make the option be inside an option of its own and you're onto something :>

[wide chasm]

@Nullable Optional<?>
runs

[frank otter]

yes so there might be a value stating there might be a null value here, but it might be null

[minor badge]

can't wait for primitive optionals though

[frank otter]

why would you have nested options

[turbid spade]

// importing APIs like this --> https://github.com/WesJD/AnvilGUI
// is now possible within Grakkit

Before the way you imported APIs was by getting registered methods to runtime from the service manager or if the plugin is epic, through getPlugin(plugin) [Im talking to you, bentobox]

[limber knot]

what even is the better method to get an API

s/API/plugin

Correction, <Geolykt> what even is the better method to get an plugin

[minor badge]

there is no alternative way in bukkit, geo

[limber knot]

yes, but you can do singleton patterns if you wish to make it usable as an API

[minor badge]

that being said, there is nothing stopping you from creating your own universe in which you can load a plugin and let it live :>

[thorny notch]

java has boxing tho

[minor badge]

@quasi valley you have the JEPs bookmarked, right?

[thorny notch]

is there a Paper docker image?

[minor badge]

no official one, but you can easily create your own or use a public one like itzg's image

[thorny notch]

where is that?

[wraith trail]

.g itzg minecraft docker

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/itzg/docker-minecraft-server

[wraith trail]

his is kinda big though

[frank otter]

what's the irc channel on freenode?

[wraith trail]

it's on esper, #paper

[limber knot]

freenode?

[frank otter]

oh wait it's not freenode

[limber knot]

almost every minecraft related is on esper

[minor badge]

creating your own image is probably easiest ngl

[short yarrow]

After programming with timezones. Timezones suck. I use too much of my brain when working with timezones

[limber knot]

The only thing that is not on esper or spigot is #mcdevs

[wide chasm]

Date/time in general sucks

[minor badge]

use UTC in the code, always

[mental meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY

[visual egret]

i always do UTC but i sometimes fuck up

[mental meadow]

I love getting random engine control lights in the middle of the day while getting groceries

[visual egret]

eg: i live in london where the timezone is close to utc so i just use the systems local time for some scripts

[short yarrow]

UTC is nice, but we have instances where we need to use local timezones since I work with people in forecasting

[granite axle]

emoji when

[wide chasm]

Not only do you have daylight saving time, but also timezones and different calendars which are either solar, lunar, or both which specify days, months and years completely differently or not at all. Shout out to Japan where every time they get a new emperor or smth a new era starts.

[short yarrow]

Different calendars o.o? Jeez. I've only experience daylight savings time and timezones

[wide chasm]

Oh, there are dozens of calendars

Different calendars for different places in the world, different religions, etc.

[short yarrow]

Some countries are also getting rid of daylight savings and libraries need to update!

[visual egret]

japan programmers must have a pain

[mental meadow]

to be fair most people nowadays stick to the gregorian calendar because of internationalisation

[celest coyote]

Do they have emperor anymore?

[wide chasm]

Gregorian is most common, but you still have those people that use the Maya calendar or smth

Like, I thought the Julian calendar was dead, but then I found out there are still people using it.

[olive marlin]

Also don't forget some countries having partial time one, or deciding to switch timezones they are in because financial reasons etc.

[granite axle]

glorious

[mental meadow]

at least remove the background smh

[granite axle]

but that's effort

[wide chasm]

As much as I dislike C#, I will give it this, it supports a lot of calendars

[minor badge]

@olive marlin do you know of any decent io_uring libs for rust? I've seen rio, iou, and tokio/io-uring, but none of them really seem decent at all :/

[olive marlin]

Nope, never had a chance to play around with it.

[limber knot]

hey, irc is kinda cool

[minor badge]

I also can't find any decent libs for checking if the linux version is recent enough, which is annoying but oh well; a readme warning will do

[frank otter]

wait how does it know my pfp

[granite axle]

magic

[olive marlin]

That's effort? Don't tell me you don't have this command memorized:

convert input.jpg -fuzz 5% -transparent black out.jpg

/s

[limber knot]

Because you have the same name

[olive marlin]

It matches by name.

[limber knot]

oh makes sense

[olive marlin]

Finds first person from cache with given name.

[granite axle]

how do i sign up for irc

[olive marlin]

Esper.

[limber knot]

uhh i just installed irssi and thsn you have to mess with nick server

[olive marlin]

Go to esper.net, there's instructions. Then you join the server with your credentials.

[limber knot]

iirc jou just /msg NickServ register (password) (email)

after you connect to esper

[olive marlin]

And then you select channels.

[mossy vessel]

When was the date the irc stuff gets yeeted again? Forgot the date

[limber knot]

wdym irc gets yeeted

The bridge

[mossy vessel]

[limber knot]

it gets reset or removed

Discord will implement a feature that makes the bridge unviable

[olive marlin]

Remember that you won't get chat history or anything. If you want them, you need to run a bouncer like ZNC or have an always-running client like The Lounge.

[limber knot]

did i do it?

Thus the bridge will be gone

no

yes you did do it

i have no pfp but i think i did it?

:D

.pfp

meh, not that server

[olive marlin]

Yes, it checks your nickname, not the real name.

[thorny notch]

why

[olive marlin]

.avatar

[thorny notch]

C# is great

[olive marlin]

Ehh, doesn't work either.

[limber knot]

wait a sec

does it show ips on join

yes

dangit

[granite axle]

a

[short yarrow]

Yeah C#!

[limber knot]

Unless you use a bouncer or there is some dns stuff

[wide chasm]

C# thought that implementing literally every single language idea into one language was a good idea, which I disagree with.

[limber knot]

is that better?

:D

it is!

[thorny notch]

?

[limber knot]

But do not worry about your ip address since your provider hides it

[thorny notch]

it didnt

[limber knot]

note to self: bouncer

Yours is host86-129-20-54.range86-129.btcentralplus.com

fsck is whitelist on

[thorny notch]

i cant get there

[limber knot]

https://webchat.esper.net/

[wide chasm]

It does, C# has traits of practically every language design put into it

[limber knot]

You need the correct protocol

Baldr is the superior hostname smh

[untold copper]

weewoo

[olive marlin]

Wait, esper has the lounge hosted?

Nice.

[thorny notch]

haskell

[minor badge]

You need to register with NickServ

[worn ember]

or just use discord

[limber knot]

all i need now is to figure out how to get irssi to display images sent in urls like you can with neofetch

[spare venture]

Don’t forget to mask your host name

[limber knot]

yeah i forgot about that bit

[spare venture]

My host for example says the city I live in, in the name

[thorny notch]

still doesnt work

[worn ember]

yes mask important to not spread virus

[spare venture]

And esper for some dumb reason doesn’t let you use the flag to mask it. You have to use a bouncer or something

[left swift]

Mask on mask on mask

[thorny notch]

@wide chasm have you found features from haskell in C#?

[spare venture]

Shitty to make it harder for people to be more private

[limber knot]

Hiding ip addresses isn't all too important unless you do things like saying that israeli people are the best people in the world

[left swift]

[limber knot]

wait you have to hose znc yourself

that somewhat defeats the ip masking point

there are a few znc hosts out there, but yes

ah wth whats the worst that can hapoen if people get my ip

nothing, I don't think I can DDoS you with the ip I got from you

[thorny notch]

you can port sniff

[limber knot]

shite

maybe I can say where you live, but that's it

[minor badge]

@olive marlin damn this is a cool feature in some newer rustup version: ```
info: syncing channel updates for 'nightly-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu'
info: latest update on 2021-04-06, rust version 1.53.0-nightly (d32238532 2021-04-05)
info: skipping nightly which is missing installed components 'rls', 'rustfmt'
info: syncing channel updates for 'nightly-2021-04-05-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu'
info: latest update on 2021-04-05, rust version 1.53.0-nightly (c755ee4ce 2021-04-04)
info: skipping nightly which is missing installed components 'rls', 'rustfmt'
info: syncing channel updates for 'nightly-2021-04-04-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu'
info: latest update on 2021-04-04, rust version 1.53.0-nightly (0b417ab5c 2021-04-03)
...
info: latest update on 2021-03-25, rust version 1.53.0-nightly (07e0e2ec2 2021-03-24)
info: downloading component 'clippy'
info: downloading component 'rustc-dev'

[limber knot]

You get port sniffed either way, freenode does it for example

[visual egret]

the only times i've ever exposed my ip is IRC and a secret subdomain

[limber knot]

ah good point

[minor badge]

and that also reminds me I need to get rid of rls

[limber knot]

Then there are also other people doing it

[thorny notch]

port sniff, find a port, ddos it

[limber knot]

isnt the entire ipv4 adress scannable easily

yes

[thorny notch]

give me your ip, ill show you

[limber knot]

like i think i did it once

zmap or smth

how do you ping through irc

[olive marlin]

nmap

[thorny notch]

<@id>

[limber knot]

@thorny notch try 127.0.0.1

./ctcp ping

[thorny notch]

ok ill ddos you now

[visual egret]

HOw DID YOU GET my iP!! 😠

[limber knot]

Hey, that's MY ip

[visual egret]

what!!!?

[limber knot]

Stop saying that it's yours

[visual egret]

geo stop stealing my ip!

[thorny notch]

which one do i ddos

wait you have a postgres server open

[limber knot]

dont mess with my data plz

[visual egret]

"Amogus"

[wide chasm]

C# allows for functional programming, so yes

[mental meadow]

kerberos oh god

[limber knot]

the biggest upside of irc i have found is that it can be tui

like i like this irssi thing

It can be anything

[spare venture]

Not everyone wants to just give away the city they live in lol

[visual egret]

i use irssi all the time

[thorny notch]

installing psql client now

[limber knot]

oh

OH

i was trying to connect from weechat

but im still connected here

big brain moment

hmm it seems i cant scroll up

[wraith trail]

big irc not requiring you to use the official client

[limber knot]

Many providers provide information that is 50 - 1000 km out of sync

[left swift]

England is my city

[spare venture]

Yeah well mine is not out of sync

[limber knot]

did i make it?

no

:(

perhaps

#/msg NickServ identify oskar123

secure password :sunglasses:

that was a joke btw*

are you sure that was a joke

[spare venture]

Mhm

[limber knot]

try log on lucy

[spare venture]

real pw is 123oskar#

[limber knot]

najh

getting this far was hard enough

no it wasnt ._.

[thorny notch]

drop database go brrrrr

[limber knot]

webclient was easy

I use a super unsecure password for my school's homework "database" (not sure how you call it)

[thorny notch]

haskell is purely functional, so no

[limber knot]

our school isnt tech savvy enough to have such database magic

[thorny notch]

how do i ping irc people

[limber knot]

you dont B)

hey nailuj i wanna see if i firewalled everything off can you pentest me

you dont afaik

we are webhook

im on irc you van get my ip

<name>:

[spare venture]

Say there blame

[limber knot]

:sunglasses:

[spare venture]

Ba he

[quasi valley]

you do, by typing their name (for any sane irc client)

[thorny notch]

his password was postgres

[wide chasm]

How do you mean, just because Haskell is purely functional doesn't mean that there's no functional programming in C#

[thorny notch]

oskar: how do i access it

[limber knot]

smh big hacker doesent know how to use IRC

With that I mean my password there is just "password"

[spare venture]

Stupid phone

[limber knot]

oskar youre irssi right

how do i scroll

[spare venture]

My parents wifi password is password

[limber knot]

pageup

pagedown

[granite axle]

ok that was fun

[limber knot]

on your keyboard

[granite axle]

back to discord

[limber knot]

not that

am on mobile/termux

scrolling just scrolls through message history

[thorny notch]

how do i operate this

[limber knot]

you will find those keys somewhere

you can bind volup and voldown

[waxen panther]

[limber knot]

broc agreed you are super fucking funny

[thorny notch]

help me

i cant figure out this irc thing

[limber knot]

haha found it

[warm anchor]

All these young people trying irc

[limber knot]

this is annoying, emojis load as the url

actually no

Depends on your client

because it would be worse if it was the name

[thorny notch]

it just says cannot send message

[limber knot]

But what did you expect from a terminal client?

you need NickServ

[thorny notch]

i did

how do i use nickserv

maybe im dum

[limber knot]

say fair enougj terminal client

i dont think ctcp works on his client

this*

[thorny notch]

im on the webchat.esper

[limber knot]

yeah, ctcp does not work

[thorny notch]

what is ctcp

[limber knot]

ah, well, it can use CTCP VERSION

oh look webchat works

bugged smh

[thorny notch]

what happens if you at everyone in an irc

[limber knot]

alright who invited the children to irc

the children invited themselves

the kids did

Probably me

oh look my client quit

I have no idea how we went here

slaps geolykt

slaps geolkyt

[limber knot]

why are we slapping

Hey, onetesseract started it

.kill Geolykt

rips Geolykt's intestines and uses them as a skipping rope.

hey i just wanted to appreciate the beauty of tui

[thorny notch]

#paper Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services

[limber knot]

.help kill

say you need to setup NickServ

you need to be identified

say ok run /nick (nickname)

[thorny notch]

how

[limber knot]

to set your nickname

#/msg NickServ identify oskar123

where oskar123 is your password

literally just send the message

but without the hashtag

he's using webchat, oskar

wait have you registered with nickserv yet

[thorny notch]

no

how do i do that

[limber knot]

ok i dont know how to do it on webchat

geolykt do slash commands work on webchat

[granite axle]

not geo but yes

[visual egret]

cringe

[limber knot]

I never used webchat

ok nailuji run /nick (nickname) to choose a nicknams

it worked i think

hmm yes

welcome to #paper

[thorny notch]

how did it get my icon

[limber knot]

magic

how do i ping people

type their name

no discord people

nailuj29 is this a ping

@thorny notch is this a ping

who wanted me to pentest them

oskar

his ip doesnt show

[waxen panther]

irc

irc everywhere

[limber knot]

Convention is <name>:, however most clients react on just the name

[waxen panther]

[limber knot]

discord > irc

/ctcp <name> PING is the actual ping command

irc > discord

and matrix somewhere in between

[granite axle]

irc feels like discord but 20 years old

[limber knot]

how do people like this

will discord killing the irc bridge kill matrix bridges too

[quasi valley]

there's like 4 people that actually use irc, everyone else just uses it for 10 minutes to feel cool about a bot tag in discord

[limber knot]

why is discord killing irc bridge

how

[cosmic raft]

hi kenny weeb

[limber knot]

idk someone said it

[quasi valley]

excoose me

[limber knot]

Not discord

[viral hornet]

don't attack me

[limber knot]

It's the paper team that does it

why

wait the paper team is killing irc?

irc is kinda cool

IRC sends almost no messages

discord is better

[quasi valley]

@viral hornet you are cool even without a bot tag don't worry

[limber knot]

but this is kinda cool

[viral hornet]

[worn ember]

!stats

[limber knot]

Uptime: 3 days, 17 hours, 7 minutes, 32 seconds
Message Handling: 3ms / 0ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 79945 (5.577%)
Messages from Discord: 1353418 (94.42%)

nailuj just wait until you get a proper client and start configuring it

There will be a new feature that will make it unviable

[thorny notch]

to what

[limber knot]

keybinds everywhere

[thorny notch]

discord or paper

[limber knot]

i use irc because discord dum sometimes

to discord

It's discussion threads iirc

[worn ember]

can you see file contents in irc yet?

[thorny notch]

what

what would a discussion thread be

[limber knot]

Depends on your client

[quasi valley]

how is the status on that feature even, I know people were talking about it over half a year ago

[limber knot]

basically something like mini-channels

file contents? i imagine itd send a link to file

@Nailuj29 can i ping myself

@thorny notch#4242

that pinged me

@frank otter

that did ping me

[novel horizon]

🤦‍♂️

[limber knot]

irc is dumb, im back to discord

[worn ember]

kek

[quasi valley]

not the tool, but the user is

[limber knot]

bai!

who needa stuff like powercord when i can just config irssi

[thorny notch]

discord looks better

[worn ember]

some people like the stone age, dont be too harsh on them

[thorny notch]

the other moderator on a server i moderate is super annoying about that

[limber knot]

say if i could find a working discord tui i might consider switching back

[thorny notch]

whenever he has the chance, he disses js/flat design

[limber knot]

Hey, thunderbird has builtin irc support, but no builtin discord support!

[thorny notch]

https://github.com/Bios-Marcel/cordless

theres this

[limber knot]

goddamn im so used to talking from a minecraft server console i prefix everything with say

[thorny notch]

but the guy got banned

[worn ember]

epic is epic

[visual egret]

selfbot?

[thorny notch]

what

[visual egret]

thats a selfbot

[thorny notch]

no it isnt

its an alternate client

which is bannable

[limber knot]

discords quite touchy about modded/alternate clients

[visual egret]

its also technically selfbot since you are accessing the api

[plain yew]

No

It's not

Selfbot is when you have a bot login with a user token

That's the definition of a selfbot

[limber knot]

What even is this?

[thorny notch]

what

cordless

[viral hornet]

oskar getting schooled it seems?

[thorny notch]

discord TUI

[limber knot]

i cant remember any irc/irssi commands

well, it is archives, so basically useless

s/achrives/archived

smh

why does /help not work

because no help allowed

i dont wanna be on my own

to the arch wiki or the manpages

[frank otter]

did that work

[plain yew]

Kenny TV kekw

The hell is that

[limber knot]

yes

[waxen panther]

a person

[viral hornet]

The most epic tv you can get?

The hell is a ZeroNyan

[mental meadow]

kneny

[waxen panther]

kneny~~

[worn ember]

that one time i wanna use epic its dead lul

[limber knot]

want?

use proper english smh

[worn ember]

use a proper IDE smh

[limber knot]

Do you want me to code in sublime text instead or what?

[thorny notch]

>

[worn ember]

sure

even notepad is fine

[limber knot]

no

nano is better

[thorny notch]

vim

[limber knot]

vim exists

I'll use geany though since sublime text has no builtin "build" button

so does neovim

[thorny notch]

use vscode

[limber knot]

doesn't quite work on linux

vscode on linux?

works fine for me

I mean, sure you can use it there, but you have to use nonfree repos and I don't want to set that up

vscodium?

code .

[thorny notch]

yeah that exists

[limber knot]

oop this isnt terminal

Not suppported by my software manager and I don't wish to install something that does not update automagically

[thorny notch]

what

[limber knot]

what distro/package manager

[thorny notch]

good question

[limber knot]

gnome software

[thorny notch]

pop os supports it by default

[limber knot]

oh gnome

[thorny notch]

what distro

[limber knot]

sudo apt install code smh

never used gnome never wanted to

[thorny notch]

smh, gnome is just a DE

[limber knot]

dnf > apt

[thorny notch]

pop os gnome is actually decent

[limber knot]

apt >

pop os is lovely

pacman is the package manager that annoys me the least

[thorny notch]

Geolykt: cant help you then

[limber knot]

plus arch has awesome wiki

i wouldn't have bothered with ubuntu if i knew about pop os

I mean, I use fedora, but that helps less

[thorny notch]

i should start working on my amogus server software that i want to make, but im lazy

[limber knot]

ah i know nothing about fedora

[thorny notch]

just download the RPM

[limber knot]

isnt amogus dead as a game

[thorny notch]

the new map

[vernal moth]

They finally released the new map

[wild escarp]

I like arch + i3

[thorny notch]

not fullky dead

[limber knot]

is it alive again?

i like arch + dwm

[magic river]

People do modded versions of the old maps to make them more balanced too

[waxen panther]

it'll be alive again for a few more days

[magic river]

Although without a heat map of deaths and player movements I'm not sure how they could optimize that without just a shit load of trial and error

[limber knot]

Just a few

few more days

damn no shift enter

[crisp warren]

aaaaAAAAAA

[limber knot]

what is that?

[magic river]

jeez are you building it on the router or something?

[crisp warren]

trying to complile openwrt

Nope on my computer

And this is the second compilation

[magic river]

Either they have a lot of C++ in there or your computer is kind of bleh 😛

[crisp warren]

It is bleh

[limber knot]

i wondee

wonder*

does this work?\nor this?

nope

[crisp warren]

It is slow af

[limber knot]

what works?

\n

[crisp warren]

I wish I had some vm or something for this

[limber knot]

IRC does not support newline afaik

[magic river]

I forget
what this looks like
on IRC

[limber knot]

Oh so it's just multiple messages

[crisp warren]

Dot

Hi

[limber knot]

It always depends

[worn ember]

just ordered a new 2TB ssd, sounds like a good time to get a linux distro up and running

[limber knot]

Sometimes it just strips away the newlines, sometimes it sends multiple messages, sometimes it throws them in a paste

[visual egret]

you can now read your stacktraces at 2x speed

[worn ember]

2x as much stacktraces

poggies

[crisp warren]

Is there some kind of compilation workload benchmark?

[worn ember]

LTT compiles python i think as a test bench

[vernal moth]

Firefox actually

[worn ember]

ah

[thorny notch]

how do i get access to #adorable-pets

[worn ember]

doyou have an adorable kitty?

[thorny notch]

yes

[vernal moth]

Proof

[thorny notch]

hold on

[worn ember]

mfw you get corrected on your own plugin

[crisp warren]

Who is LTT, what config are they usinjg

[limber knot]

question your choices now

Linux tech tips

[worn ember]

coote kitty

bruh its snowing

[limber knot]

same here

[thorny notch]

what

where

[worn ember]

its april my doods

its supposed to be spring

[wide chasm]

Snowed this morning here too

[worn ember]

eu gang

[thorny notch]

oh

so can i have #adorable-pets access now?

[worn ember]

$50

[limber knot]

He uses euros, sir

[ashen cliff]

50€.

[worn ember]

^^

[thorny notch]

im american

[limber knot]

darn it

[quasi valley]

$60 then

[thorny notch]

for #adorable-pets ?

i dont have money

at all

[cosmic raft]

In exchange for 30 cat photos and a 9 double-sided page essay on cats.

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-04-06_17-49-38.png

[mental meadow]

https://twitter.com/Sean8UrSon/status/1379156103557120001
this sounds fun

Sean Aitchison (@Sean8UrSon)

just got this frightening press email

IT COUNTS PEOPLE IN THE ROOM SO IT CAN CHARGE PER PERSON??!?!

capitalism is fucking exhausting

Retweets

3148

Likes

9392

Twitter · Apr 5, 2021, 7:36 PM

[quasi valley]

lmao

time to hide behind the couch

[cosmic raft]

I give it a month before someone figures out how to bypass it completely

[wide chasm]

A month, that's quite long

[woven otter]

amazing

[wide chasm]

I'll give it a week

[cosmic raft]

a month is me being generous

I'm including time to figure out a way plus time to publish a blog post about it :p

[granite axle]

just yeet the sensor out

cant be that hard surely

[wide chasm]

If you can tape off the sensor and it will detect that as zero or one people/person that'd be amazing

[granite axle]

seriously if its an off the shelf sensor it'd be super easy to spoof

[cosmic raft]

or put a photo in front of it

or a video playing on a laptop, etc

of one person moving around slightly as if real

[thorny notch]

face it at the wall

[wide chasm]

Yeah, I'm giving it a week 🙂

[thorny notch]

or have it in a different place

two tvs

one main one

one that just tells the thing that there is a person

[limber knot]

Or just record the TV and play it back later

[thorny notch]

thats more illegal tho

[untold copper]

oh we talking about illegal stuff?

[limber knot]

It is for private use though, so it could be legal

[formal turret]

Fuk

I went to get my vaccine and locked my keys in the car

[thorny notch]

smash window

[limber knot]

smashes car to pieces

[crisp warren]

Tape it up

[left swift]

Illegal stuff snoopa shows up

[woven otter]

no u

[left swift]

Hi duck

How are you

[meager tusk]

Snoopa Fact

[formal turret]

What's your favorite snoopa fact

[left swift]

Snoopa fact #312

[meager tusk]

Snoopa fact #225.

[woven otter]

yes. you?

[left swift]

Snoopa fact #312: #general message

[formal turret]

lmao

[magic river]

Vaccine get

[meager tusk]

wake up babe, new snoopa fact

[formal turret]

I got the Johnson vaccine and they gave me a little card

[magic river]

I got the Pfizer so I have to go back later this month

[void void]

You fool. You allowed libtards to eject Obama mind control venom into your arm 🤦‍♀️

[frank otter]

now you must reveal obamas last name

[ashen cliff]

Not the first to do it. Some TVs already have that build in.

[left swift]

Mo

[formal turret]

Yup now bill gates can know where I am at all times

So blessed

[left swift]

Bill gates has 5 clones check Disneyland for facts

[ashen cliff]

Bill doesn't care. But KGB Craft does.

[mental meadow]

||daddy bill can now find me anytime||

[left swift]

Aurora just got poki weirded haha

[cunning raft]

i really hope you lose nitro

somehow

[limber knot]

same here

[left swift]

[mental meadow]

we can just block external emotes for him 😄

[cunning raft]

[left swift]

[void void]

JRoy 😍

[limber knot]

can we start a petition to block externals for nomana

[magic river]

Seriously Google must be tracking these chats or something

[waxen panther]

dont bully my poor nomana

[quasi valley]

JRoy 😍

[magic river]

You guys started spamming those emotes and then Twitter started giving me notifications for pokimane tweets

[formal turret]

I've gotten ads for things I've talked about in discord before

Conspiracy

[magic river]

I had to turn off twitter notifications, it was doing one a day

[limber knot]

never have I ever gotten ads about things i have discussed over discord or irc

[formal turret]

Still locked out of my car

[limber knot]

vaccinate the car, wait for the immune response to kill it and steal the keys from the corpse

[formal turret]

Lmao I need to be studying

[limber knot]

can I run commands from irc

!stats

Uptime: 3 days, 18 hours, 34 minutes, 42 seconds
Message Handling: 3ms / 0ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 80036 (5.582%)
Messages from Discord: 1353694 (94.42%)

[waxen panther]

disgusting

[formal turret]

1 million in 3 days?

4 days

[left swift]

Brocc is my bully hunter

[limber knot]

what's disgusting?

[waxen panther]

[limber knot]

i love irc, i have no emojis

a literal godsend

[cosmic raft]

dies

[limber knot]

Ay, we breached the 80k messages milestone

[untold copper]

👀

[limber knot]

And the messages are alltime fyi

[left swift]

80k fake news

[limber knot]

ah Geolykt: which client do you use

Hexchat because I cannot be bothered to get a proper one

is that the irc ping sytnax i cant remember

hexchat hm

ctcp ping?

sudo pacman -S hexchat

wait

Though I should switch since Hexchat (and discord and a lot of other applications) loves to freeze when a LWJGL 2 application is in fullscreen

really annoying

[untold copper]

Snoopa fact #214: Matchstick have red phosphorous on the rubbing surface and antimony triphospate and 1 more chemical on the match itself. When you rub the match against the box, the red phosphorous gets converted into white phosphorous, which reacts with the chemical, and that reaction produces enough heat to light the antimony triphospate

[limber knot]

Did you study chemistry today?

[formal turret]

I think k that is just a fact

[untold copper]

yeah

[limber knot]

damn i can't identfy from two different clients at once

yeah, but it makes sense on another level

i suppse

[wraith oracle]

I can't stand IRC even with the pretty clients

it just has that old feeling to it

[left swift]

Its cuz it is old

Boomer chat

[magic river]

Haven't seen this in a while so https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/826997823786319933/Paper-chan_Optimized.png

[limber knot]

and hexchat does not work

nickserv smh

hexchat has nickserv integration

how

It can automatically register on join if it is set up

how do i set it up

[left swift]

U should make paperchan your PFP amaranth

[quasi valley]

=☠️

[limber knot]

dont say that

[quasi valley]

nomana, it's no time for denial

[left swift]

Denial is a river in egypt

[limber knot]

Hexchat > network list > click on the right network > edit > enter your credentials

[vernal moth]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/java/announcing-preview-of-microsoft-build-of-openjdk/

[limber knot]

ok looks like it works

[vernal moth]

Heh

Msft doubling down on their openjdk contirbutions

[limber knot]

microsoft build of openjdk

does it just add tracking and win32 binding

still in preview

[magic river]

I don't know what this PFP you speak of is

But I've had this avatar since 2005 so no

[limber knot]

jeez that's a long time

[magic river]

This avatar is older than oskar 😛

[vernal moth]

Fun fact: msft is the reason java runs on apple silicon

[limber knot]

what

[magic river]

RedHat is the one that did the arm64 JIT though

[limber knot]

ach i don't like the hexchat gui very much

someone send an image, i wanna test this

[ancient bolt]

actually fucking amazing that the supreme court not only gave the right answer, but their explanation and reasoning is 100% accurate. Fucking insane, I remember when this first came out years ago and the uneasiness we were feeling with regards to what this would mean for copyright https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-google-oracle/u-s-supreme-court-sides-with-google-in-major-copyright-dispute-with-oracle-idUSKBN2BS1A9

[magic river]

It's a very narrow ruling though, it doesn't really help anyone else

[untold copper]

big corporate cases bore me, puny mortal :P

[magic river]

They didn't settle the copyright question and fair use wouldn't apply if your goal is to clone an API to kill off the original version

[ancient bolt]

but the reasoning for it is completely valid - copyright law doesn't work very well when applied to code

[magic river]

Odds are after a few more cases in the next decade things will be settled enough everyone will just act as though APIs aren't covered by copyright and not bother trying more lawsuits but that isn't guaranteed

[warm anchor]

Still a win tbh

[limber knot]

if someone does try more lawsuits, will it be oracle

[ancient bolt]

blog post says it's just a direct build of the openjdk source tree. Not sure how that's different than adoptopenjdk

[vernal moth]

They will backport stuff if they feel like

[ancient bolt]

which means...stick with adoptopenjdk. They're the standard and standards are good

[vernal moth]

But yes it's based on adoptium

Am not saying to switch, lol

[magic river]

RedHat made the arm64 JIT, sounds like Microsoft put in the work to ensure it worked on more than Linux and that was useful to get it running on macOS too

[vernal moth]

Am saying it's cool that msft does this, because this means they will continue to expand their contirbutions to openjdk

[ancient bolt]

they weren't the only ones. I think they had a build first, but azule had a build very early as well

[magic river]

So I guess you could say Microsoft helped with the M1 port

[ancient bolt]

yeah it's cool for sure

actually azul may have had their build up first, but I don't think the source was available

[magic river]

azul?

[vernal moth]

Msft worked on the initial arm port for windows X, that work was required to make the M1 port

[ancient bolt]

cause it was like beta or alpha

yeah drop the e

[frank otter]

this makes no sense to me

[magic river]

Microsoft ported the Linux arm64 port to Windows, you mean 😛

Unless they wrote their own backend for some reason

[topaz mortar]

FunFact: C# is a product that resulted from the fight between MS and Sun. 😄

[magic river]

https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/237

[tropic flame]

imagine using this instead of Adopt

[ancient bolt]

every time the M1 comes up I have to double check to make sure there isn't a 16" M1 MBP

god I can't wait

[magic river]

We have ported the JDK to Windows/AArch64, by extending the work previously done for the Linux/AArch64 port (JEP 237).

[ancient bolt]

after seeing a fanless macbook air outperform my desktip in some tasks...whew

[magic river]

Probably won't be a 16" M1 MBP

[topaz mortar]

More a M1X or M2

[ancient bolt]

do you mean it'll be the next iteration of M1?

cause I just mean "M1 family"

if you mean they aren't planning apple silicon 16" MBP then I'm gonna need a source on that

[magic river]

I wish they had a better name than Apple Silicon

Too wordy

[topaz mortar]

Ah you mean MBP16" AS Edition.

[ancient bolt]

yeah Apple Silicon is a good "marketing" term I guess maybe?

I'll stick with just calling everything M1 for now lol

or M1-based

[topaz mortar]

Yeah happy to see the performance of the 16"

[magic river]

Oh god I forgot on Windows long is 32-bit

[tropic flame]

yes because compatibiliy with 32-bit programs

[olive marlin]

Is it just me, or are there less and less good Open-Source plugins? Possibly it's related to me searching other kinds of plugins, but still. I'd imagine that simple plugins like sit or fly or whatever were available in hundreds.

[frank otter]

what

[magic river]

Those programs already had to deal with size_t changing so compatibility isn't a good argument

[tropic flame]

yes but we're talking about microsoft here

I could probably write a program with the API windows has right now and compile it to work on Windows 3.1

[wide chasm]

I'd imagine those basics plugins are mostly created by people who are new to programming and therefore not familiar with VCS

[tropic flame]

the fact that some even decide not to be open source at all is a disgrace to me

but yeah, perhaps, I haven't followed the scene that much lately lol

I bet there are still some stair sitting plugins out there tho

[warm anchor]

A lot of newbie don’t feel like doing open source because they are shy about sharing their code

They may think their code is not presentable

[olive marlin]

Yeah, I always try to find open source ones, but lately I keep finding either stuff from 2014 or with issues.

I've found one guy which has a few nice simple plugins, but doesn't share source to any of them.

[magic river]

Oh yeah, fun fact, in 2022 32-bit ARM is dead

Well, I suppose it'll live on in embedded stuff

But for phones, tablets, PCs, etc it's gone

[tropic flame]

what can I do anyway, there's no one to enforce the license

[wraith oracle]

my samsung grand 2 is very offended by this statement

[tropic flame]

https://gitlab.com/Logics4/VersionInfo/-/blob/master/src/main/java/io/gitlab/Logics4/VersionInfo/bukkit/commands/VersioninfoCommand.java

this is the most disgusting thing i've ever written

[magic river]

Their Cortex-A series and Cortex-X series will drop 32-bit at least

[tropic flame]

and i put it online 😎

[magic river]

Cortex-M will still have it afaik

[tropic flame]

when i was just starting

so i can't see that as a valid argument

[wraith trail]

They finally actually fixed this today. Only a four months later

[magic river]

I don't think the M1 has 32-bit either

[celest coyote]

honestly not terrible other than player version section

could be much much much worse

[olive marlin]

Hmm, weird sulu. You didn't ping me after edit, but Logics4 did.

[wraith trail]

only on canary

[olive marlin]

Oh.

[tropic flame]

yeaaaah, I've figured out a much more efficient way to do it though... I've just been lazy since then LMAO

[olive marlin]

Spigot resource sections is so awful...

Hangar wen?

[quasi valley]

don't worry logics, at least you are not this person who literally didn't improve anything after 4 y e a r s https://i.imgur.com/H6JtuzG.png https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/viacheckconnection.31805/

[wide chasm]

There's always dbo

[frank otter]

who is taiga-chan

[mossy vessel]

Could be worse, there is a certain author checking nms revision up to 1.20

[tropic flame]

oh lord, that plugin

I don't understand how the dev thinks that's efficient at all

[olive marlin]

DBO takes 30 seconds to load. Each time.

[tropic flame]

even back then I was like "wtf this could be simpler"

when I wrote mine

[celest coyote]

lol

[wide chasm]

Oh, I personally have never had issues with load times on dbo

[celest coyote]

my first task at my job

was to fix a front end bug

in the process I refactored a 10k js file down to 2k lines

[tropic flame]

hold up, did he just delete his github repository?

[celest coyote]

it was so badly written it actually gave me headaches

[tropic flame]

the link leads to a 404 page

[quasi valley]

he did a few months ago

[tropic flame]

w t f

[mossy vessel]

Hi,
Currently, I don't have the time for change everything.
But if you want, you can do a PR on GitHub.

[tropic flame]

mfw he's in this server

[mossy vessel]

Be the change you want to see

[tropic flame]

😶

[quasi valley]

yeah he said that multiple times, "no time [to add 5-10 lines of code]"

[celest coyote]

and so the bad code stays

[mossy vessel]

Welp, work on your checkstyle then!

I can easily make up 40-50 lines if you want

[tropic flame]

sounds like me though, "sorry guys I couldn't update the plugin sooner, it was because of school" while playing half-life on the background

[sharp wind]

bring back the april fools pfp :((((

[quasi valley]

Im sorry to inform you paper-chan is deceased

[deep juniper]

I am happy to inform you that this is not true.

Hello, my children!

Sorry for the wait

[magic river]

I guess we'd better get used to going to https://adoptium.net/ soon?

[quasi valley]

and that's just a poor soul not coping very well

[mossy vessel]

Kenni spreading fake news

[tropic flame]

PAPER-CHAn

[deep juniper]

Hello! ❤️

[magic river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/826997823786319933/Paper-chan_Optimized.png

[mossy vessel]

explain??? https://i.imgur.com/V0TV4z1.png

[quasi valley]

mfw

[cosmic raft]

wheee

[quasi valley]

whooo

[deep juniper]

Yaaahoooo!

[cosmic raft]

on the way home from doctor yet again

[quasi valley]

did you survive fine?

[cosmic raft]

so far

probably have to go again

[ancient bolt]

wait what happened to adoptopenjdk

oh eclipse foundation

wtf is Eclipse Temurin

[minor badge]

they've said they're intent on taking their time to make it just right

[ancient bolt]

why don't they have hotspot?

what is going on

what is life?

[minor badge]

probably because this isn't a finished page :p

[waxen panther]

what happened

[magic river]

Temurin is the build system

[minor badge]

broccolai my broccolai best friend

[magic river]

https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/adoptium.temurin

[wraith trail]

they do, it just does not say it that way for some reason. Hover over "help me choose"

[ancient bolt]

so they replaced JVM with Vendor or something idk

that is b a d U X

why is eclipse so bad at naming things

[minor badge]

https://blog.adoptopenjdk.net/2020/12/eclipse-adoptium-projects-ready-for-community-review/

[ancient bolt]

I mean the name is fine but like the name shouldn't be there

[minor badge]

it's because it's caffeine but good

[limber knot]

eclipse tries to name everything after something in the java ecosystem, so you get things like Jakarta

[wraith oracle]

what happened to the OpenJ9 variants

[magic river]

It's Eclipse so you know they comin

[pastel kestrel]

What version do I need to download for 1.8.9

[wraith oracle]

none

[wraith trail]

1.8.9 is locked in the vault

[wraith oracle]

I don't remember paper being any useful in 1.8.9 anyways

[pastel kestrel]

why removed

[wraith oracle]

just use spigot

[magic river]

1.8.9 is not a thing anymore so if you can't figure it out yourself it doesn't really exist 😛

[wraith trail]

no, it never existed

there is 1.8.8 though

[magic river]

Well, whatever it was

[wraith trail]

1.8.9 on the server side never really existed as it really just changed the version with no real actual changes

[magic river]

Anything other than the latest build if it breaks you get to keep both pieces

[wraith oracle]

that's just semantics

[pastel kestrel]

So let me ask like this which one do you recommend for 1.8.8

[magic river]

So you'd better get used to building things on your own, you're going to be doing a lot of programming 😛

[wraith trail]

not to run 1.8

but if you must, scroll down on the downloads page

[pastel kestrel]

I will open a skyblock game type. I want to do this on a 1.8 basis too. I wanted to use Paperspigot.

[wraith oracle]

tacospigot used to be good for 1.8.8

[wraith trail]

there is no one afaik maintaining 1.8

[vernal moth]

What's 1.8.8?

[wraith oracle]

but you are asking the wrong community

[magic river]

tldr no, go away 😛

[wraith oracle]

why would you make a skyblock server on 1.8.8 lol

[vernal moth]

[pastel kestrel]

I wanted to get your suggestions.

[magic river]

Or download a 1.16.x build

[vernal moth]

That's easy

[wraith trail]

the overwhelming suggestion here will be to not use 1.8

[vernal moth]

Use 1.16.5

That's our suggestion

[wraith trail]

or any outdated unmaintained versions with numerous bugs and exploits

[wraith oracle]

I get that, it is just that people won't give you answers here

almost no one uses 1.8.8 on this guild

[pastel kestrel]

Our community likes version 1.8.

[magic river]

We'll just make fun of you for being so serious about PVP in block game

[tropic flame]

bruh I hope AOJDK doesn't get rid of HotSpot

[wraith oracle]

I don't see why they would

[pastel kestrel]

It's okay, you can mock whatever you want, you just drop your character

[magic river]

?

[limber knot]

if they do they probably will introduce serious guards beforehand

Nothing to worry about

[magic river]

Is that a google translate error or some phrase I'm not familiar with?

[wraith oracle]

I think he was trying to say drop the attitude

[magic river]

Oh well that's never going to happen

[pastel kestrel]

I dont know English. That's why I translate terms I don't know.

[vernal moth]

Basically, this is a 1.8 free community

[pastel kestrel]

I am originally a Turkish citizen

[vernal moth]

1.8 is ded, and that's a good thing

[magic river]

Being an asshole to server owners is kind of my thing

[vernal moth]

You will get no help reviving 1.8

[pastel kestrel]

k

[pastel kestrel]

k

[limber knot]

Skyblock 1.8.8 is ... questionable

[muted storm]

[unkempt drift]

[muted storm]

Don't go to us either

We don't want you

Update your server lol

[magic river]

[vernal moth]

So this is how spigot treats potential users

Smh Choco, smh

[limber knot]

Unless you do things that are revolutionary like skyblock in cuberite

[muted storm]

[magic river]

.rekt

Aww I thought that was a thing

[mossy vessel]

Thanks for speaking yourself out, I'll take that to the manager.

[vernal moth]

I would say something like beggas can't be choosers but that would be mean 😂

Rekt was a thing, guess the bot died

[unkempt drift]

.halp

[limber knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555469074080202765/561287494075678721/image0.png

[unkempt drift]

That one works

[magic river]

I thought paper-chan was the bot

[wraith trail]

rekt was from scissors

[unkempt drift]

Oh didn’t know that

[limber knot]

.g test

(Geolykt) Test cricket The form of the sport of cricket with the longest match duration, and is considered the game's... (https://duckduckgo.com/Test_cricket?v=i&kp=1)

paperchan still alive

[unkempt drift]

Cricket... smh

[limber knot]

Darn brits

[vernal moth]

That's korobi, .rekt is cloud bot, first as cafebabe, then as xD, hosted by lax (who also PRd rekt to cloud bot)

[unkempt drift]

Why are there like 500 bots anyways

[limber knot]

So we have two korboi's?

[tropic flame]

and then it's discord that's a clusterfuck

[vernal moth]

Lax did shut down all this stuff earlier this year i think

[wraith trail]

no this is cloudbot

[vernal moth]

Guess it's an old version without rekt then?

[limber knot]

yeah

[wide chasm]

To ensure one bot is down at all times, but at least the others will still be up /s

[unkempt drift]

Purge all bots 😈

[worn ember]

bots for bots

[wraith trail]

apparently kashike is writing one as well

[unkempt drift]

including irc people

[wraith trail]

maybe they can all be merged

[deep juniper]

Bots are fun!

.kill kenny

[limber knot]

goes bowling with kenny's bloody disembodied head.

[vernal moth]

Isn't pencil kashs bot?

[cosmic raft]

no

[wraith trail]

no thats mine

[wide chasm]

Violence from Paper-chan? What happend to "my child" and stuff

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/RichardHammerTV/status/1379490968114708480
https://twitter.com/RichardHammerTV/status/1379492109691011081

Richard Hammer (@RichardHammerTV)

Alice was in the shower downstairs and I was pooping upstairs...

“Daddy!”

“Daddy, help!”

I run down stairs in a panic. She just needed shampoo.

Now I need a shower.

Twitter · Apr 6, 2021, 5:47 PM

Richard Hammer (@RichardHammerTV)

Me running down the stairs. https://t.co/tCu4TJnCJB

▶ Play video

Twitter · Apr 6, 2021, 5:52 PM

[potent fossil]

i added rekt back but you need to specify a target

.rekt Mini

[limber knot]

Mini, ☑ sudo apt-get REKT

[vernal moth]

Ah I see

[magic river]

This is why you shouldn't have kids 😛

[vernal moth]

Do you host our cloudbot instance simple?

[potent fossil]

Yea

[deep juniper]

I don't hurt anyone. Only figuratively. ❤️

[vernal moth]

We should make like a bot registry, lol

[limber knot]

I like how you don't know who hosts which bot

[wide chasm]

Okay, my child, then it's fine

[potent fossil]

i dont have any of the special changes lax had unfortunately

[stiff shore]

.kill me

[magic river]

jeez we already make the bots wear a badge, a registry now too?