general

[floral mesa]

plus RHEL and fedora offer great documentation on how each system works

[heavy garnet]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/✅20-off-easter✅-customitems-make-new-items-blocks-with-new-textures-recipes-triggers-more.63848/ i think this uses custom textures and json on original items right ?

[floral mesa]

akin to arch

[restive saffron]

No idea it’s premium and I’m on my phone

[floral mesa]

I did use ubuntu years ago, got tired of having to fight the distro for the way I wanted things done.

[livid wren]

I think you're confusing "geared towards newcomers" for usability. Ubuntu is intended mostly for everyday use, while Debian is geared more towards raw stability. Something like Debian would make great for a long-term server, but Ubuntu would offer about just the same with extra usability. Meanwhile, using Debian on a desktop somehow only appeals to "advanced" users... I think the debate's kind of useless because they're far too similar in the end

[heavy garnet]

w/out mods

[livid wren]

also in all honesty, I don't see how much of what Ubuntu has that Debian doesn't could cause a problem

[restive saffron]

This

[livid wren]

Snaps are annoying (and are slowly being phased out, Ubuntu doesn't even ship with preinstalled snaps anymore), but they're easy to install

sudo apt autoremove --purge snapd

and done, one problem solved

Not worth basing a decision off of

[brittle jacinth]

I absolutely hate snaps

[livid wren]

I think a majority of us dislike snaps

but again... it's such a small thing to worry about

[brittle jacinth]

Flatpak is the future tbh

[livid wren]

I don't use any of them, much rather build from source if I have to

[restive saffron]

You know what I REALLY dont like

[brittle jacinth]

I don't want to spend 727 hours building mongodb

[restive saffron]

Sudo!

[floral mesa]

sudo -i

done

just elevate to root shell

[restive saffron]

What does that do

[livid wren]

Apparently they have a .deb package, so

[restive saffron]

o

[livid wren]

sudo -i drops you into root shell

[restive saffron]

Simple don’t use mongodb, use Postgres!!!!

[brittle jacinth]

True

[floral mesa]

I stopped caring about sudo this and that, if I needed to elevate to admin for a good period, id do that.

[restive saffron]

😃🤝

[brittle jacinth]

Postgres can't scale though

Mongo can scale but badly

[livid wren]

lol I Google "mongodb linux" and this comes up... "Setup MongoDB in Kali Linux"

Hate Kali

[restive saffron]

I hate Cali

Worst place ever!

[brittle jacinth]

californians are bad

Why can't they just go away

They invade my dreams at night

[restive saffron]

one of my friends live in Cali. He make me install bad plug-in that make server lag !!!

[potent fossil]

why are we hating on california

oh kali linux

ha ha ha so fun knee

[livid wren]

Sounds nice, honestly. Considering I've ever been out-of-state to Texas

[brittle jacinth]

No they don't let me sleep at night

[livid wren]

I'm sure that goes for any city

[brittle jacinth]

I cannot rest until all californians are gone

[restive saffron]

Evil Californians

[floral mesa]

I'm not too sure why kali exists, I mean I know the purpose, but it doesnt make sense as to why its not a script install for debian

[livid wren]

anyways... Kali is a meme, someone in the Python Discord tried to tell me it was a good beginner distro

I had to point out multiple times that it's intended for professionals

[brittle jacinth]

You can carry it around in a usb so no need to wait for install times in a script

[restive saffron]

Cap

[floral mesa]

thats a good way to ruin a USB drive

[restive saffron]

Ubuntu and Debian for VPS, amazing experience

[livid wren]

Kali is useless, in all honestly... I don't understand what Kali has that you can't get on any other distro

[brittle jacinth]

Either way kali is a cringe distro for anyone to use as a daily driver

[floral mesa]

nevermind loading gnome...

gnome isnt light

[potent fossil]

no shit. kali is for pentesting...

[livid wren]

Yes, but people don't understand that

[brittle jacinth]

I'm going to use centos on my desktop as a daily driver

Ah yes

[livid wren]

I always see kids asking for support on Kali Linux, it's so... cringey

[floral mesa]

This doesnt get a lot of attention, but this is installable as a group: https://labs.fedoraproject.org/en/security/

[livid wren]

Like surely if you're going to use a distro geared towards professionals, you know what you're doing

[floral mesa]

yum groupinstall "Security Lab" or something

[restive saffron]

Don’t even joke about it bro

[livid wren]

not some child trying to DDoS their school :/

Anyways. I got to try Arch, recently. To see what the whole meme was about

I do see where the pride comes from, it's pretty satisfying going from tty to dm

[floral mesa]

ill be around to hear the complaints every other day of the week

[restive saffron]

well, hopefully they’ll learn from their mistakes by using cloudflare and better practices? Idk

[brittle jacinth]

may or may not have been a cringe kali 'fan' 6 years ago or smth

[obtuse ocean]

Lfs is best linux

[livid wren]

lol. our school responded by disallowing access to the school wifi

[restive saffron]

If the schools get better security, it’s better security for students data and such

[obtuse ocean]

Lfs is the only real Linux

[restive saffron]

Professional response, I like itS

[restive saffron]

Never heard of it

[livid wren]

Sometimes I wish I was the IT guy

[obtuse ocean]

I am a precompiled linux distro denier

fake news

[livid wren]

anyways. Arch is nice, not worth the meme but it's still nice

[obtuse ocean]

you use arch btw?

[brittle jacinth]

AUR makes it all worth it

[livid wren]

I feel like I've learned a lot

[floral mesa]

I like the concept of arch, but I find it to be too much of an effort to maintain it over long periods of time.

[livid wren]

I started learning C, recently... Thought it'd be fun to eventually start looking at Linux internals

[olive marlin]

Arch is so 2010, Void is the thing now!
runs

[livid wren]

Meh, it's really not that bad

[floral mesa]

and to be honest, I find AUR to be a joke. a serious joke, but it should really be part of pacman

[brittle jacinth]

I've been maintaining an arch system for a year and a half, ama

[obtuse ocean]

I started reading the book modern operating systems recently

[livid wren]

I've heard from many that Void is a shitstorm, I can't comment because I've got not experience... but I'd believe it

[restive saffron]

How do you maintain a OS?!? Even on Debian and Ubuntu I install and forget about any updates

[obtuse ocean]

Man I regret starting it but I love the book

But it's a thousand pages and man I read slow

[livid wren]

Meh, I feel like it hardly matters

[olive marlin]

There's two significant advantages to minimal distros like Arch and Void - you learn how Linux works better as well as you can easily synchronize config between multiple pcs.

[livid wren]

basically don't partial upgrade and you're fine for the most part

[floral mesa]

@brittle jacinth I want a system that works at the end of the day, not to tweak it every other day.

[restive saffron]

..? What’s a partial upgrade

[floral mesa]

plus fedora can be installed like arch

[brittle jacinth]

Wdym tweak it

[livid wren]

iirc.. upgrading a package without updating your system and the repositories

so you end up with mismatched dependencies or something

and things break

[brittle jacinth]

Arch is a workflow that just works if you are using a DE

[restive saffron]

I think I’ve done that plenty of times

[olive marlin]

This is exactly why I changed distros - I'm in control and have dotfiles which I can use to synchronize configuration between 3 pcs (work laptop, personal pc, personal laptop)

[restive saffron]

I’m no Linux pro, hah

[livid wren]

TL; DR: Never use pacman -Sy, always use pacman -Syu

that's what I got from it anyways

[brittle jacinth]

Syyuu

Syyyyyu

[restive saffron]

Someone call me when there is new performance updates for Debian so I can squeeze more out of my Minecraft server

[livid wren]

Getting the optimus drivers and stuff working was much easier on Arch, though

[olive marlin]

I haven't had issues with Void, using it just fine for a few months now. Definitely have way more friendly docs than Arch, but way smaller docs and community.

[livid wren]

I spent 12 hours on KDE Neon and somehow managed to corrupt my SSD

[restive saffron]

Probably because the creator uses arch

[livid wren]

well... optimus-manager is Arch only

but still the performance doesn't match, somehow

[restive saffron]

interesting

[livid wren]

Hate this laptop, honestly

[brittle jacinth]

Archwiki is my go-to source for any Linux things

[livid wren]

ArchWiki is great, yeah

[brittle jacinth]

Even if it's not arch

[livid wren]

There are tons of guides there, never realized how expansive it is

[restive saffron]

Bro what are these recommended specs for a Minecraft server

Processor: Duo Core or better
RAM: 2 GB (20-40 players), 3 GB (30-60 players), 8 GB (60+ players)

[floral mesa]

https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/Optimus

[livid wren]

lol I noticed that there's an AUR for papermc

I found it in the Minecraft section of the ArchWiki

[obtuse ocean]

sorry but chromeos is the best linux distro

[restive saffron]

Interesting

[floral mesa]

With Fedora 29 , along NVIDIA driver 435.17+ and xorg-x11-server 1.20.5-9 (add additional patches), it's now possible to have full Optimus support (with offload sync only with glx). Starting with NVIDIA driver 440.26+ render offload works with EGL.

With Fedora 30 and later, the official fedora xorg-x11-server packages has the needed patches, (so there is no need to use the copr repository). Using NVIDIA 440.31+ will advertise full optimus support (GL/EGL) using a stable driver release. It's not needed to use the previous copr repository that can be disabled using: ```

[restive saffron]

No.

[livid wren]

oh yes. ChromeOS users: "I use Gentoo btw"

[obtuse ocean]

😳

[livid wren]

Meh, maybe I'll check out Fedora eventually... I just don't like GNOME much

[obtuse ocean]

Why even have GUI tho

[floral mesa]

there is the KDE spin

[livid wren]

also I'm tired of distro hopping, so I think I'll stick to Arch for the time being

[livid wren]

Never knew that, worth noting

[floral mesa]

https://spins.fedoraproject.org/

[obtuse ocean]

just use headless

[livid wren]

I installed KDE Plasma on Arch, been loving it

XFCE feels so minimal in comparison

[floral mesa]

im not huge on plasma, ive tried it so many times. I want to like it, but I dont feel like tweaking the environment

nevermind clearing plasma is an utter pain if something goes wrong

[livid wren]

Idk, I love the default

with the dark theme ofc

I mean... tell me this doesn't look flexable

[restive saffron]

POV, you’re just a Windows user with WSL

[livid wren]

lol. I've not used Windows in months

[hardy ginkgo]

im using fedora too lol

[livid wren]

I really should start getting some VMs running and trying more distros

but then again... I'm fine with using Arch for a while

[restive saffron]

I have to make sure if other people wanna use my computer, it’s using the standard os of windows 10. I can still do Linux stuff on my computer, just a bit annoying

[livid wren]

I'll probably always be criticized, but oh well. It works for me and the installation was quite trivial

[floral mesa]

I havent done distro hopping in a long time,

ive stuck with fedora/centos/rhel for the past 5-6 years

[livid wren]

I've only went from Manjaro > Xubuntu > KDE Neon > Arch

Xubuntu was my most used... and Manjaro, nobody should ever use Manjaro

[restive saffron]

If I cared about my pc, I’d probably be running Debian

[livid wren]

Oh, I understand

[restive saffron]

Debian**

[livid wren]

Meh, Debian's not that great for desktop users

Ubuntu is better as a daily driver, imo anyways

[restive saffron]

I’ll probably try that if I ever wanna switch

[floral mesa]

not many look at fedora, its usually ubuntu/debian and friends or arch

[restive saffron]

so can you boys show yourself installing a web browser off a fresh install???

[livid wren]

Fedora's not really well-suited for beginners, though... Usually people who use Fedora know what they want from Fedora

[restive saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-trash-linuxbad-gif-18671901

[floral mesa]

but the jump to arch?

also fedora is pretty easy

[livid wren]

Most distros come with Firefox or some GNU alternative

[olive marlin]

Thankfully I don't have such requirement. If I will need it, I can install windows on second drive. But I still need to use Linux for work, and I want to have the same experience no matter what I use - whether it's work or personal laptop or my pc.

[restive saffron]

Yep

[livid wren]

Meh, I had the ISO regardless... Thought it'd be a fun DIY project

because KDE Neon borked my SSD

:(

I still don't understand how that happens

I uninstalled bumblebee, primus, and the nvidia driver

[obtuse ocean]

I still wanna go back to linux but I need a new keyboard

[restive saffron]

I have to be considerate to others who want to use my computer sadly

[livid wren]

I reinstalled the nvidia driver and rebooted

and bam. GRUB said KDE Neon didn't exist

[floral mesa]

fedora is close to bleeding edge, akin to arch, but its also like ubuntu, it doesnt need that much of a curve to learn

[livid wren]

I tried repairing the installation, the installer couldn't read my SSD

[restive saffron]

Lol nvidia drivers on Linux?

[livid wren]

They're usually really easy to install

but I've got an optimus laptop with a dGPU and iGPU

so... it gets complicated

sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall

That's usually all there is to it for any sane configuration

[floral mesa]

also fedora doesnt muck with gnome as much as ubuntu

man gnome is really fucked on ubuntu

[livid wren]

meh. idk what'd be on Fedora that I want

other than whatever the package managment is

[restive saffron]

Too I got a APU and a dedicated GPU! Welcome to the club! I’m on AMD tho

Some updates from AMD break my igpu, it’s amazing!

[livid wren]

Meh, idk. I've got intel/nvidia, which is what Optimus is for

[floral mesa]

its yum, its more like apt, but simple for the most part

you can feed it urls and it will download

[restive saffron]

So if it’s more simple.

Does it have yum uninstall sudo

[livid wren]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus

[restive saffron]

Interesting

[floral mesa]

sure, you would be missing systemd in the process I believe

[livid wren]

also it's funny because you've got optimus, prime (primus), bumblebee

[restive saffron]

oooo fun

Now I’m gonna pass out now, goodbye!

[floral mesa]

yeah, yum will prevent you from doing it, but you can brute force it

[restive saffron]

Remember, whenever you look into the stars. Think one of them as my soul

[livid wren]

Look at the sky tonight, all of the stars have a reason \😩

[floral mesa]

but yeah, its why ive been using fedora, its the polished middle ground of distros

it sticks to the books, hell, it doesnt really muck with packages unless they need to

and the kernel is mostly vanilla*

[restive saffron]

I’m gonna get myself a brand new network adapter, that’ll be just as fast as my phone

Then I’ll never lag again on hypickel

And my mom will give me Vbucks cuz I’m pro

Goodnight

[floral mesa]

but yeah, a lot of tech that is used for other distros do originate within fedora/redhat

hell, wayland was such a smooth launch on fedora

ubuntu's launch was really rough

[void void]

Aww what happened to Paper-chan?

[potent fossil]

nothing she right here

[void void]

😍

I mean

😻

[quasi valley]

people still mourning the dead I see

[void void]

Guys i found Bukkit-chan

I expected it to be evil

[true canyon]

Thanks I hate it

[potent fossil]

She used to be innocent. Until the incident.

[void void]

Don't Google Sponge-chan, worst mistake of my life

[livid wren]

tell me it's not sexualized Spongebob

[placid egret]

no

put paperchan back

[quasi valley]

yeah leave her be in her grave

[visual egret]

agreed, big mistake

[tribal flicker]

the good ending

[void void]

Hello there, Is there any way to make Paper auto update?

Scripts or something?

[granite axle]

some shared hosts offer self-updating

uhm

you could check against the api and download on startup if there's a new one

[olive marlin]

It's not recommended though.

If you do it, make ultra sure that your backups work.

[void void]

Somehow it will broke the Server?

[granite axle]

if it's a bad release then possibly

they do happen sometimes

[olive marlin]

There were 3 bad releases last year, 1 was recoverable with some manual work, 1 was not and destroyed worlds.

[visual egret]

if you really want to, look into paper api v2

https://papermc.io/api/docs/swagger-ui/index.html?configUrl=/api/openapi/swagger-config

[olive marlin]

I have script which downloads latest for my staging instances, then I test it and push to prod.

[void void]

Alright thanks for the information. I'll maunually download it.

[visual egret]

my scripts all download minigame/proxy servers from github

[heavy garnet]

is it a big problem for worldwide players choosing between 1.8 & 1.16 ?

[granite axle]

do forks shade adventure now too?

[olive marlin]

Yes, they have to.

Otherwise it'd crash, cause of it missing when trying to create any object which has adventure methods.

[visual egret]

just start running 1.13-1.16

[granite axle]

ah thats a good point

[heavy garnet]

i want that too new equipments animals mechanics are good but that getID getByType getType methods (ids completly removed) think annoys me

[void void]

hi I wanted to ask if you know a plugin to put commands to drops

[heavy garnet]

what u mean with "put commands to drops" ?

[vernal bone]

Hello!

Regarding paper or waterfall?

Ah

[granite axle]

#paper-help

[heavy garnet]

HEY HEY simon and lucy 😄

[granite axle]

hai

[heavy garnet]

reloader.setOption(0, new ItemStack(Material.WOOL, 1, (short) 5), "Buy " + attribute + " Update", "");

[vernal bone]

Hello PokoyoStyx!

[heavy garnet]

in here Material.WOOL is for <=1.12.2

above that

new ItemStack(Material.LEGACY_WOOL, 1, (short) 5),

when i do like that error gone

is it gonna work ?

(warn: itemstack deprecated)

[quasi valley]

don't use the byte constructor, and definitely don't use legacy_ materials

[heavy garnet]

its my old plugin and i cant get it work now:
getId()
getById()
getTitle()
getTypeId()
setData(Byte)
ItemStack(int)
all above shows undefined
and much materials shows cannot be resolved (that i fixed with LEGACY_)
also loadConfiguration(File) notworking here too
290 errors to 87 error now 😄

[quasi valley]

set ids don't exist anymore, neither does the data, at all

[heavy garnet]

do i have to change all ?

[quasi valley]

and do not use legacy materials

yes

[heavy garnet]

where can i find the 'replacement' for example

emmm

in event getItem().getTypeId() == ?

[quasi valley]

compare the materials

but, #paper-dev

[heavy garnet]

kk then thxx

[bold iron]

Does anyone know what plugin use the most RAM usage?

[next frost]

RamWasterReborn

[mossy vessel]

What kind of xy question is that

lol

[bold iron]

Ahaha

much fun

[next frost]

what answer did you expect?

[bold iron]

idk

I am finding

[visual egret]

you ever have to deal with the type of people that you need to help like this?

[granite axle]

all the time

[mossy vessel]

https://github.com/NotMyFault/RamWasterReborn

[visual egret]

bruh

[wide chasm]

Ask them which logo is on the back of the screen

[granite axle]

ask them for the kernel build version

which server is that in

[next frost]

Epic

[worn ember]

i thought the joke was that it was gradle

[undone crest]

hey is it possible to create a 2nd overworld? or for example, a 2nd world_the_end

good evening

[vernal moth]

sure

you wanna look at so called multi world plugins

multiverse and hyperverse are good candidates

[undone crest]

checking them now martin, thanks

[vernal bone]

Hello I installed this and got an error that says "OOM", what does that means?

[granite axle]

you need to download some more ram

https://downloadmoreram.com

[vernal bone]

I have 2GB, and 128GB swap

ddr2 obviusly with a hdd

[granite axle]

ddr2 might be a bit too fast

cutting edge tech yk

[mossy vessel]

https://i.imgur.com/oULUgvg.png works fine for me

[quasi valley]

[vestal jasper]

hm

[zinc moss]

procrastination is an illness

[ashen cliff]

It's a life choice.

[next frost]

it's rather a symptom

[minor badge]

@quasi valley

[woven otter]

procrastination sucks

[worn ember]

dont do it then

[woven otter]

don't be homeless. just buy a house

[worn ember]

exactly

dont be stupid, just be smart

[woven otter]

exactly

don't be sick. just be healthy

[full gorge]

don't be poor, just be rich

[worn ember]

finally you guys are getting it

[visual egret]

ded are you getting configurate

because i dont get it

[worn ember]

to some degree

still got some poop floating around i gotta scoop out but other than that we gud

[woven otter]

don't be confused by configurate. just understand it

[visual egret]

don't be a pet. be a duck.

[granite axle]

what if you're a pet duck

[worn ember]

you pop out of existance

[visual egret]

you get eaten

duck is meal

[granite axle]

:c

also something must be seriously wrong

my code almost works first time

[visual egret]

impossible

[granite axle]

like it's almost not fundamentally broken

:D

[untold copper]

what

lies

[visual egret]

new snapshot 13a

[warm anchor]

Wow Oskar eats duck too? Who else duck ester ??

[granite axle]

ducks are cute >:(

no eat duck

[visual egret]

depends on the duck

if it is @woven otter , its uguly

spelling 100

[woven otter]

bullying?

@minor badge bully?

[warm anchor]

Duck so low in hierarchy list now even Oskar is bullying

[cunning raft]

mad? duck?

[visual egret]

eternity nice pfp

[warm anchor]

Yes it’s nice I like it a lot

[untold copper]

ok gamers time to play genshin impact because I have nothing else to do

[warm anchor]

It’s a decent game even f2p

Can your PC run it though

I forgot which one of you have shitty PC Oskar or Snoopa

[limber knot]

any PC is shitty if you don't have a ryzen 9 and an rtx3090

runs

[upbeat falcon]

Genshin Impact - YouTube

https://genshin.mihoyo.com/
Genshin Impact is an open-world action game proudly presented by miHoYo. In the world of Teyvat — where all kinds of elemental powers constantly surge

Requested by party#2255 - genshin impact - result 1 of 4

[granite axle]

ive heard of this genshin thing

whats it about

oh ok its a weeb game

[limber knot]

Breath of the Wild but anime, F2P and with microtransactions/gambling

[lavish crest]

Breath of the Wild is an anime style game.

[granite axle]

am i missing out on much?

[lavish crest]

Most Nintendo games are (except for games like Mario and Donkey Kong).

[untold copper]

it can run it

[untold copper]

oskar does

[untold copper]

run

[granite axle]

ahhhh someone just sprayed perfume

its really strong

[untold copper]

where are you smh

[granite axle]

in my living room

on the sofa

watching my brother play games on his mini fridge

[untold copper]

epic

I bet its that brother of yours

what is the literal fuck you can drown in genshin?

wack

[warm anchor]

You miss out on the top tier meme and art came out of genshin but other than that. It’s still a decent game @granite axle

[spare venture]

It looks ok

[untold copper]

It is ok

[granite axle]

on a scale from md_5 to weeb how weeb is it

[spare venture]

Would only play if you’re super into weeb stuff

[untold copper]

it looks very pretty though gotta say

[lavish crest]

MD_5?

[warm anchor]

It’s like 8/10 ish

[untold copper]

lemme stream cause why not

[lavish crest]

The leader of Spigot?

[granite axle]

idk he's the least weeby person i can possibly think of

[spare venture]

Lol it looks 10/10 weebish

[knotty rose]

i mean, i wouldnt consider zelda weebish

[warm anchor]

The game don’t have much fan service coz of China law

[knotty rose]

yeah

[warm anchor]

You can’t even look down on their panty @spare venture can’t be 10/10

[woven otter]

says the weeb

[spare venture]

Wtf

[untold copper]

eternity how do you cross a giant ass river without drowning

[warm anchor]

Game actually make character transparent coz of Chinese law @spare venture

If you lower your camera angle too much

[granite axle]

just to clarify, what do we mean by fan service

[warm anchor]

For a 10/10 weeb game that’s essential @spare venture

[spare venture]

Are the devs really that perverted that the only thing stopping them was a Chinese law

Man now those guys definitely need to touch grass

[warm anchor]

Well you asked 🤷‍♂️

[lavish crest]

Its still drawn in the Anime/Manga art style. I mean, the older games themselves are not in that style due to graphics limitations but the art for them is.

[warm anchor]

I answer honestly if you are really judging from the true weeb game standpoint

The game engine is actually really good

[untold copper]

Basically: Its a good game, I am enjoying it so far, and it looks very pretty

[warm anchor]

Yes it’s pretty

[ashen cliff]

Unity.

[spare venture]

I’d consider it a full on weeb game and nothing less, the absence of porn/lewdness/perverted shut doesn’t change my mind on that weeby

[warm anchor]

Have you seem the long range missile meme @untold copper

Projectile in that game does not simply disappear out of frame

So you can hit target from one side of map to the other side

@untold copper https://youtu.be/TBicYO502Ls

Lmao

[ashen cliff]

Yet, you have to reload the whole world teleporting 10m away.

[pulsar wigeon]

no you don't

[warm anchor]

It’s migration for low end PC

[minor badge]

@warm anchor

[warm anchor]

Imagine loading every asset in game lol

[untold copper]

uh no

[pulsar wigeon]

if you're within the general vicinity of the teleporter there's no load screen

[untold copper]

thank

[ashen cliff]

So yeah, 10m.

[warm anchor]

Yeah wait wizjany plays it too?

[pulsar wigeon]

smh https://i.imgur.com/NVePUSU.png

[untold copper]

paimon is adorable tho

[limber knot]

I mean how big can all the assets be? I've rarily see software trying to use at least the full amount of the ram

[spare venture]

wiz weeb

[warm anchor]

@untold copper https://youtu.be/nBKI8IPzrSg

[pulsar wigeon]

krusic: pretty sure it's actually hardware based. even like 200m out i just get a split second load screen

[ashen cliff]

Because the launcher eats up all the ram.

[warm anchor]

This one is the best Snoopa @untold copper

[spare venture]

@woven otter look at these weebs

[ashen cliff]

It's based on random().

[limber knot]

I mean I get that video memory is the important thing here, but caching it in ram should speed stuff up too, no?

[ashen cliff]

It's not consistent AFAIK.

[pulsar wigeon]

yea so like, depends on how much needs to load

[warm anchor]

The fact the physics still works on entire map tells you that loading for player part is really just migration for low end pc @ashen cliff

Watch that video I have listed on top

[limber knot]

I don't have 32GB and plan to go for 64GB for nothing 👀

[frank otter]

on my phone it takes a while to load to teleporters

[untold copper]

I just started playing @warm anchor xD

[lavish crest]

You all are misusing the term weeb. Weeaboo means someone who likes Japanese culture to a creepy extent and want to move to Japan but they still get a lot of it wrong.

[frank otter]

apart from of I'm in the immediate vicinity

[pulsar wigeon]

game is only taking 2gb for me

[spare venture]

weeb

[untold copper]

On phone its heavy

[pulsar wigeon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[untold copper]

my phone has a stroke every time i play it

[warm anchor]

You can try that too it’s actually really hard to do what they did in video. God knows how much they tried lol @untold copper

[frank otter]

I like the gameplay of genshin, I hate the wishing system

[ashen cliff]

The game takes a lot more than 2GB, but only reports 2GB in task manager.

[untold copper]

Its graphics on phone are amazing though

[warm anchor]

Gameplay and combat is actually butterly smoonthv

[untold copper]

yes

it is

[warm anchor]

Yeah I only play on PC though lol

[pulsar wigeon]

wishing is fine from a f2p perspective tbh, given that you can guarantee pity on a banner every 5-6 banners you just gotta choose your favorite 5star every once in a while

[frank otter]

Gameplay and combat and game mschanics are well polished

[untold copper]

same

[pulsar wigeon]

gets really bad for ppl who actually want everything tho

[frank otter]

I'm f2p but I want them all

Well not all

just most of them

[warm anchor]

Yeah if you want everything genshin is NOT for you unless you are loaded

[woven otter]

yea they are the worst

[frank otter]

and I only get the ones I dont want

[pulsar wigeon]

tbh i don't even use all the characters i have. 1-2 core teams and then 20 characters i dont touch lmao

[spare venture]

[ashen cliff]

You can get almost everything by being F2P. You just have to be smart about it.
https://posili.me/i/2021-04-03_16-29-34.png

[untold copper]

whats that mean

[warm anchor]

Wtf another childe picker

[untold copper]

whats f2p

aaa

[warm anchor]

Eewwww

[frank otter]

lucky

[pulsar wigeon]

yup

[frank otter]

what's wrong with childe

[ashen cliff]

Lucky.

[warm anchor]

Not spending money = f2p

[ashen cliff]

Bro.

[untold copper]

ohk

[frank otter]

I want ganyu, I have mona

[worn ember]

free 2 pay

[frank otter]

and xiao

[warm anchor]

Wow didn’t know this many people in paperMc plays it lol

[ashen cliff]

Don't forget about the daily check-in website.

[spare venture]

You dummy

[frank otter]

it's not an unpopular game

[frank otter]

ah yes three fish

[pulsar wigeon]

daily checkin is a scam tbh :<

[worn ember]

no u

[pulsar wigeon]

20primo per week lmao

[warm anchor]

They rack in 200 million on first month

[spare venture]

Well, this is a weeb discord now, surprised you’re surprised

[lavish crest]

I dislike F2P games since F2P=P2W. I would much rather just buy the game (as long as it is not P2W).

[ashen cliff]

Just like MC voting.

[warm anchor]

That’s an understatement on popular

[spare venture]

Minecraft servers are F2P

[worn ember]

do you guys recommending building your own NAS or buying a pre built one? I feel like buying a prebuilt one will cost a lot more

[mental meadow]

not every f2p game is p2w

[spare venture]

^

[warm anchor]

The game doesn’t have PvP

[mental meadow]

look at stuff like CSGO, LoL, TF2, stuff like that

[warm anchor]

So p2w isn’t a thing

[pulsar wigeon]

issue with "just buy the game" is that it's a live service model and if they just gave everyone every character for buying the game they would have 0 revenue and thus no money to develop more

[warm anchor]

If you whale too much in genshin game is actually too easy and less enjoyable

[pulsar wigeon]

there's a reason mtx is a thing now

[spare venture]

Imagine having to pay money to support it! How dare they get anything in return for my entertainment!

[untold copper]

I just got a wind glider pog

[warm anchor]

Coz the difficulties are set for small spenders

[worn ember]

you never played any valve game?

[lavish crest]

In my opinion, anything that is purchaseable with a gameplay advantage is pay to win.

[warm anchor]

@untold copper there is a gliding challenge for gliding for 5 minutes or longer

[pulsar wigeon]

also dont really care to argue p2w in what's essentially a single player game

you can go enjoy your game, i'll enjoy mine

[ashen cliff]

You get that one while going to the hidden island tho.

[lavish crest]

No. I've only really play Minecraft and KSP (with a little Skyrim and Tomb Raider)

[spare venture]

Pay to play games are pay to win because you have to pay to have the opportunity to win

[worn ember]

Minecraft is p2w kappa

[spare venture]

See how your argument breaks down instantly

[warm anchor]

Yeah lol dude I didn’t read any guide and I saw that island and I went there and was like WTF THIS ISLAND IS ACTUALLY REAL

[pulsar wigeon]

as eternity said it's not balanced to need to spend, everything is possible with the base roster - people clear spiral abyss with the initial 7 free characters

[untold copper]

thank much

[ashen cliff]

Same. Needed to try 2 times tho. Forgot about Ambers passive.

[warm anchor]

yes I can vouch for the game being balanced for small spender

coz game gets way too easy as whale

[ashen cliff]

balanced

[worn ember]

@lavish crest do you consider league p2w?

[frank otter]

I think I did this with the gliding mini games

[warm anchor]

I am speaking as a whale btw

[ashen cliff]

It has insane power creep tho.

[warm anchor]

@frank otter xD

[spare venture]

Paying any money at all = pay to win /s

[lavish crest]

Wth is league?

[worn ember]

bruh moment

league of legends

[frank otter]

whale, who's ur main dps

[warm anchor]

[lavish crest]

Nope. I looked at the game and did not like it

[worn ember]

so its not p2w cuz you didnt like it?

solid

[ashen cliff]

I see why you hating on Childe.

[untold copper]

how do you glide for 5 minutes

thats wack

[spare venture]

Weeb games only 😠

[warm anchor]

DUDE I PURPOSELY DONT TAKE HIM COZ HE WAS SUCH A DICK IN THE STORY @ashen cliff

[lavish crest]

No. I mean. No by i don't play it.

[pulsar wigeon]

it's 80 seconds, not 5 minutes

[lavish crest]

Bruh

[frank otter]

I have almost all 4 stars and only 2 5stars not counting trav

[ashen cliff]

BRO! DID YOU EVEN LOOK AT HIS STORY BRO!

[untold copper]

wat?

[ashen cliff]

HE DID IT FOR HIS BROTHER BRO!

[untold copper]

oh 80 seconds

okrhoia

[frank otter]

sure but he's the most fun to play

[untold copper]

ok

[ashen cliff]

EVEN GAVE YOU MONEY!

[frank otter]

tartaglias brother is even scarier than him

[untold copper]

ah ok

[warm anchor]

oh only 80 I felt a lot longer t han 80 lol

[frank otter]

yep

[pulsar wigeon]

just have amber for stam passive and glide here https://i.imgur.com/ERgi21d.png

[warm anchor]

it has a cute little message there too

[lavish crest]

Interpreting words by their literal meaning is not how language works.

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-04-03_16-38-37.png?ThanksDiscord

[spare venture]

Oh buddy

[ashen cliff]

[frank otter]

I haven't been to the island yet

[pulsar wigeon]

yea there's a whole hidden quest thing on that island

[frank otter]

I'd probably get yeeted on it

[untold copper]

so you have to manually level up your charecters?

[lavish crest]

When people say cat got your tounge?

[frank otter]

world level six? and level 70 chars

[untold copper]

or is it like a thing, you can choose which one to level up?

[spare venture]

I have no idea what you’re even saying here? Is this a language barrier?

[untold copper]

and there are like level up credits you can use?

[lavish crest]

They don't actually think a cat got your tongue.

[frank otter]

you have to find materials to level your Character

[warm anchor]

dont level up your world unless you have enough of damage output @untold copper

coz game gets harder

[untold copper]

my what?

[pulsar wigeon]

yea you get level up materials and you choose which characters to use them on

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-04-03_16-39-58.png

[lavish crest]

You have to use the commonly accepted definition.

[pulsar wigeon]

you dont have to worry about world level until adventurer rank...25 i think?

[spare venture]

I don’t have to use anything

[warm anchor]

Keep all resources on few characters @untold copper if you want easy game lol

[lavish crest]

Not one you just made up by looking at the words.

[untold copper]

world level...?

[warm anchor]

@ashen cliff wtf????

[untold copper]

ok thats new

[warm anchor]

oh yeah

[untold copper]

ok lol

[warm anchor]

you dont lose exp either btw

if you dont level up look at Kruic

[spare venture]

Yeah, last I checked I don’t answer to you lol

[untold copper]

my uh, sword dude is level 6

[lavish crest]

Yes but if you don't, no one will understand what you are saying

[ashen cliff]

Instant lvl 55 if I want.

[untold copper]

and the archer girl is level 7

[spare venture]

I think everyone but you understood

[pulsar wigeon]

yea don't rush snoopa tbh

[lavish crest]

Im not in charge of the language, but the people as a whole are.

[pulsar wigeon]

just go at your own pace and enjoy it lol

[warm anchor]

there are a lot of easter egg in game so no need to rush

[spare venture]

Sounds like it only is allowed if it suits you

[warm anchor]

game is not about rushing

[pulsar wigeon]

if you're just starting now there's no reason to rush to endgame

[waxen panther]

wiz weeb 😳

[untold copper]

whats mora

[mental meadow]

Pay2Win means you pay to get some kind of advancement that helps you win/be better as people that did not pay

[spare venture]

😳😳

[pulsar wigeon]

base currency, eg gold

[warm anchor]

wait did aurora start the game too?

[untold copper]

ohk

[ashen cliff]

The game is about grinding artifacts for 7 days to get a single good one, then run out of money to actually upgrade it.

[warm anchor]

I think proxi and aurora both asked about the game last week

[mental meadow]

I downloaded it and played like 30min but didn't spend a lot of time on my pc since then

[untold copper]

the music is actually very pog

[lavish crest]

Yes

[untold copper]

like legend of zelda music

[spare venture]

Mojangs definition is that it can only be pay to win if you’re actually winning something I.e a competition or a prize

[ashen cliff]

Or flexing on the fire flower with DPS Barbara just because you can.

[lavish crest]

That's what every one means when they say pay to win.

[spare venture]

I bet you don’t like it when minecraft servers sell anything

Capitalism is pay to win

[lavish crest]

Im fine with it as long as it is cosmetic like hats/nicknames and stuff.

[warm anchor]

[lavish crest]

Yes.

[mental meadow]

yes, since those don't give you some kind of improvement

[lavish crest]

But I play video games to escape from reality. Not to simulate it unless its a role play thing.

[spare venture]

I could sell diamond swords with sharpness 100 on my server and it wouldn’t be pay to win lol, since there is no “winning”, or competition, or prizes that a diamond sword would give you an edge in a competition, because no competition

[lavish crest]

I helped run many servers, and the donator perks were all cosmetic in the most recent one.

[spare venture]

Nice

[visual egret]

bruh geshin impact moment

[spare venture]

I am just saying that you must actually be “winning” for it to be to win, otherwise you’re just paying... to enjoy?

[ashen cliff]

INB4 download failed.

[pulsar wigeon]

tbh i just launch the game directly, i only ever open the launcher for new patch updates

hotfixes and stuff load from the login screen not from the launcher

[untold copper]

the girls in this game are pretty hot tho

[visual egret]

👀

[ashen cliff]

Oh no.

[visual egret]

why does unity have to hang up my computer when i import a package 😩

[spare venture]

Come on snoopa

[lavish crest]

No. You are paying to have an advantage over other players. Even if there is no official objective, you still have an easier time doing ceartin tasks than other players and even finishing unofficial objectives by other players.

[untold copper]

just stating the facts

[warm anchor]

😉 @ashen cliff

[mental meadow]

snoopa smh

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean it's not one sided, do you know how many people simp over zhongli and xiao

[lavish crest]

Also you have to use the commonly used definition. It isn't my definition, it's the one used by literally everyone I know. And also the people in wall street according to CNBC.

[spare venture]

an advantage at what? Having fun?

[untold copper]

:P

[ashen cliff]

That's not DPS Barbara.

[untold meadow]

genshin 👀

[pulsar wigeon]

can barty and paperchan take this elsewhere, this is ruining the mood here

[warm anchor]

yeah

wizjany finally talked so much too!

[untold copper]

lol

[warm anchor]

[spare venture]

wiz u jerk

[mental meadow]

[warm anchor]

[untold copper]

its the first time I've seen wiz talk so much lol

[untold meadow]

i just pulled jean this morning - she'll be my third 5 star i don't don't know what to do with

[spare venture]

fine I’ll move on

[pulsar wigeon]

is that c6 noelle lol

[warm anchor]

yes

[pulsar wigeon]

smh

[spare venture]

wiz when did you become a super weeb

[warm anchor]

He just played the game barty...

[mental meadow]

probably with paperchan

[ashen cliff]

With a Bennett Ult and food buffs?

[warm anchor]

shhhhh

[spare venture]

Hey I meant no disrespect

[lavish crest]

People who can defeat the Wither in fewer hits due to a sword they purchased definetly have an advantage over people who can kill the Wither in the normal number of hits.

[ashen cliff]

Now show me your best crit dmg.

[spare venture]

We are tolerant of weebs here

[visual egret]

bone

[spare venture]

Yeah ok

[lavish crest]

This model looks nice.

[meager tusk]

Bro.

[ashen cliff]

BRO!

[meager tusk]

Fact!

[ashen cliff]

Entirety of Srebrenica?

[meager tusk]

🏃‍♂️

[ashen cliff]

Or is it too soon for that?

[meager tusk]

Too soon bro.

[ashen cliff]

Ok bro.

[spare venture]

What’s Balkan opinion on ottomans

[ashen cliff]

On what?

[meager tusk]

Bro.

On who?

[granite axle]

i've just discovered https://offlinemo.de

my life is now complete

[untold copper]

lol yes

[lavish crest]

Cracked Minecraft?

Why?

[ashen cliff]

Cracked.

[spare venture]

On kebab

[untold copper]

More like cracked at minecraft

[ashen cliff]

Not how it works for MC.

[knotty rose]

that site is great, the embed is even betteer

[spare venture]

https://offlinemo.de/

[untold copper]

xD

[spare venture]

DedicatedMC logo

[granite axle]

yeah dedimc used to host it

[knotty rose]

it's because tehlo registered the domain when it expired

[spare venture]

Hey I’m in that video

[restive saffron]

I’m gonna at my player who told me to put the server in offline mode just for him

[knotty rose]

it used to be a redirect to an admincraft thing

[spare venture]

I’m famous

[meager tusk]

You are, party.

Congrats.

[lavish crest]

Offline mode should only be used when testing servers on one's computers while it is offline, hence its name.

[ashen cliff]

👏

[spare venture]

🙏

[ashen cliff]

Or when testing AuthMe.

[spare venture]

Or for servers behind a proxy

Or yeah pirates

[knotty rose]

unless you use velocity, iirc you can leave backends in online mode

i have to try out velocity some day

[spare venture]

Man the amount of people asking me daily to make my server offline mode is too damn high

No, you still have to put them in offline mode

[lavish crest]

True

[spare venture]

Velocity does the authentication

[granite axle]

the only reason youd need authme is for offline mode tho

[restive saffron]

What about waterfall

[spare venture]

Waterfall is just bungee

[meager tusk]

I miss bartyrealms.

[spare venture]

No!

[restive saffron]

What type of network software should I use for performance then?

[meager tusk]

Yes bro!

[spare venture]

Velocity

[ashen cliff]

TCP over UDP bro!

[restive saffron]

That’s a joke, right? :0

[spare venture]

BartyRealms was nothing compared to PartyRealms

[restive saffron]

It has to run in offline mode why

[meager tusk]

Would you like to hear a joke?

[ashen cliff]

No.

[meager tusk]

Right answer.

Well done bro!

[spare venture]

All servers behind a proxy have to run in offline mode.

[ashen cliff]

We legit disabled all the fancy TCP stuff. It's almost like UDP now.

[restive saffron]

Hmm

[meager tusk]

Raknet.

Fact!

[ashen cliff]

net.

[spare venture]

Oskar

[meager tusk]

Nope, it's Easter, just save up for the game, it's cheaper than most other games and this server alone is worth buying minecraft for tbh - Oskar

[waxen panther]

weirdchamp

[spare venture]

Stop commenting on my videos haha

[restive saffron]

Should I use Velocity for things such as survival servers so I can split up the ram?

[mental meadow]

oskar - Friends

[vernal moth]

Is that Instagram?

[spare venture]

TikTok

[vernal moth]

That's worse

[waxen panther]

[vernal moth]

Why comments on tiktok? Lmao

[spare venture]

For a while there I was following back everyone who follow me aurora

[waxen panther]

@quasi valley do you have something to share

[restive saffron]

You’ve got something to say???!?!

[spare venture]

Stopped at 4000

[lavish crest]

Douyin

[spare venture]

A lot of people

[restive saffron]

I would probably use tiktok to advertise my server

Since it’s small ^

[mental meadow]

I would not install TikTok on my phone, maybe in an emulator or smth but not on my actual phone

[restive saffron]

Fair

[meager tusk]

I tried TikTok like once

[spare venture]

Meh

[olive marlin]

It seems like a good platform to advertise if you are creative, but I fear it'll mostly bring in kids.

[meager tusk]

and I didn't like it so i just got rid of it

🤷‍♂️

[ashen cliff]

1 time too many.

[meager tusk]

Fact bro!

[spare venture]

Nah it’s fine bloodstone

[quasi valley]

I do not know what you are referring to! maybe you want to help me remember?

[vestal temple]

Minidigger

[meager tusk]

I switched to Balkan Tok.

[spare venture]

TikTok if done right is a great advertisement method

[upbeat falcon]

Tik Tok (song) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tik_Tok_(song)
"Tik Tok" (stylized as "TiK ToK" and pronounced as "tick tock") is the debut single by American singer Kesha. She co-wrote the song with its producers Dr. Luke

Requested by MiniDigger | Martin - TikTok kesha - result 3 of 9

[restive saffron]

Gotta use tiktok until it’s dry to grow a more permanent following

[lavish crest]

Each server takes up the same amount of ram, around the amount that you dedicate to it plus a little more. Running a multiple server network is going to be a ram hog. (I once used waterfall with two paper server's).

[vernal moth]

Only tiktok worth your time

[waxen panther]

Maybe a graph? 😁

[spare venture]

That song lol

[meager tusk]

A Kesha song is not worth my time

[lavish crest]

Took around twice the RAM of a single server.

[spare venture]

wat

Two servers took twice the ram???

[lavish crest]

Yep

[quasi valley]

hey guys do you know I have a tiktok made an AWESOME SERVER GRAPH? https://kennytv.eu/secretgraph/

[lavish crest]

Common sense says so.

[spare venture]

No way!!

[waxen panther]

omg so epic !

thanks for sharing 😁

[restive saffron]

I mean it could be used for sending people to the hub while the server is down. 🤝

[quasi valley]

you're welcome!

[lavish crest]

True

[waxen panther]

you should add comments to it

[spare venture]

Wonder how many 3 servers take up!!

[restive saffron]

Idk what else I would use Velocity for tjo

Maybe a creative server for testing farms so players don’t complain why their farms don’t work

[lavish crest]

Just multiply the RAM of a single server by 3 and add a bit for the proxy.

[spare venture]

Kenny has TikTok?!

[restive saffron]

Kenny’s woke

[spare venture]

Bro follow me!

[lavish crest]

I mean, you don't have to run the servers on the same computer. They just have to be linked to the proxy.

[lavish crest]

If you want.

[restive saffron]

Like I have a additional VPS laying around

[lavish crest]

I'm just saying that it's an option if you can do it.

[untold copper]

well, i ordered food for myself 2 hours ago

[lavish crest]

If you have enough RAM, you can run them on the same computer.

[untold copper]

turns out the goddamn payment failed

I am incapable of ordering anything online

I'll just do cash on delivery and call the restraunt from now on, fk the app

[restive saffron]

Hmm alright

For now, I’ll wait until my hosting has a Florida location with ryzen so I can max out my Minecraft server

[lavish crest]

You can have a seperate survival and creative world on the same server though with a multiverse plugin.

[restive saffron]

Interesting, might do that.

[lavish crest]

It takes less RAM than using a proxy, but from personal experience, it can slow down the server if you have too many worlds. The limit was 10 for a server I used to work on, but that server was not very beefy though.

[spare venture]

Have fun with that lol

I think that’s a terrible idea tbh

[restive saffron]

Idk anymore, my resources are just so limited. I’m only 15 .-.

[olive marlin]

There's too many issues with that ^^

[spare venture]

^

[olive marlin]

You don't need a lot of resources for creative.

[spare venture]

Yeah

[olive marlin]

If you have a VPS/Dedi already, slapping additional creative server with velocity is quite cheap.

[spare venture]

Granting creative on a survival server is a recipe for disaster

[olive marlin]

Especially since then you disable EVERYTHING that happens in the server. No mob spawning or other expensive crap.

[restive saffron]

True

[lavish crest]

It did not result in any disaster on a server I used to work on, with both a survival and creative world. Permissions can be per world. They don't apply to every world.

[restive saffron]

I would love a hub as it’d probably retain players through restarts

[olive marlin]

And having creative as another world is a pain. You'll be rolling your dice and either one day your players will get something from creative to survival server, or will get their inventory wiped out.

I used to run PWI etc and have creative as another world.

[restive saffron]

I got this VPS for like 10 dollars per month, any good?

[olive marlin]

Just.. NO.

[lavish crest]

True, the way that the inventory was dealt with was a pain.

It worked, but it was not a very good system.

[olive marlin]

I personally had my inventory nuked randomly by PWI.

[granite axle]

:D

[restive saffron]

I’ve personally fell in the void thanks to MultiVerse 🙂

While having all my gear

[untold copper]

try other world management plugins

always interesting to

[restive saffron]

:0

[lavish crest]

We stopped using PWI, but when we did we did run into this problem. We found out that it was because the inventories did not save if we shut down the server with players online. So we made it so the server only shut down when players were offline and we did not run into that issue again.

[lavish crest]

Yep

[restive saffron]

Don’t worry you’ll run into it when your server crashes from the trashy plug-in that players love that borks server performance and is too late to remove without having most of the player base quit

[untold copper]

why in the world would you want to use contaboo

[restive saffron]

Idk, I just used cheap services and I’ve probably gotten lucky with my small hosting. They’ve been lads

[lavish crest]

??? What plugin are you referring to?

[restive saffron]

Infernal Mobs

[lavish crest]

Oh

[restive saffron]

I’m hoping to replace it with Mythical Mobs

But that’s to be tested.

[warm anchor]

Oh no...

[untold copper]

MythicMobs is pretty pog

[restive saffron]

Bro I’m so tired of Infernal Mobs

There is a naturally spawning mob called 'Infernal Ender Dragon' that can’t even fight back so it’s a free achievement for players

[wraith trail]

I've never personally used mythicmobs but people always come with fun issues related to it

and the devs seem to not care

[untold copper]

MythicMobs does employ some... questionable mechanics of doing things

or so I've heard

I have had extensive experience with it though, and I'll give them that if you know what you're doing, you can make some pretty cool shit

[restive saffron]

I don’t care along as it doesn’t Bork server performance as Infernal Mobs does

It’s like I never optimized my server running that plug-in

[golden gust]

I mean, MM worked but was pretty meh

You basically needed a degree in order to get anywhere with it

[restive saffron]

Oh boy, one of those plugins

[untold copper]

Yes, precisely

[wraith trail]

MM is no pinnacle of performance either

[restive saffron]

Now I know better than to just slap plugins on the server without testing them and letting players get addicted to it

[lavish crest]

True, I test all major plugins before adding them too.

[golden gust]

That was the joy of MM

[olive marlin]

It actually happened to me during a longer session of being online, no recent server restarts or anything.

[golden gust]

We had one guy on the team who was good at MM

Then again

the guy would sorta like join in the morning

Do fuck all

Say "fuck it, am going for a j"

Come back and within an hour he's done 10x more in an hour than he did in the past 3

[untold copper]

Yes, its like that lol

Its one of those plugins that takes something to click

[restive saffron]

Interesting

[spare venture]

MythicMobs is definitely just OK

[untold copper]

yeah, its fine

[lavish crest]

Interesting. This server that I used to manage has never had any issues with the inventory since the restart system change to the server reset.

Still I can imagine problems arising because of the weird way it stores inventories.

[spare venture]

Not to mention the many creative exploits

[lavish crest]

I wouldn't used this plugin on my personal servers though.

[golden gust]

exploits

I mean, it's really just a singular exploit

[olive marlin]

I did learn to stay away from messing with inventories, protocol and other crap. Just use KISS principle instead.

Keep It Simple Stupid 🙂

[lavish crest]

Protocol hacks like ViaVersion can work well though.

[mossy vessel]

Protocol manipulation like ViaVersion should rot in hell

[restive saffron]

ViaVersion evil

[restive saffron]

woahhh

[olive marlin]

Add another layer of stuff that can go wrong, and my server doesn't need it, so...

[lavish crest]

Major servers use their own developed protocol hacks too since they haven't updated since 1.8.

[restive saffron]

Because of the annoying player base that swears on their family they’ll never like 1.16 combat

[lavish crest]

But they do have full development teams on it though.

[lavish crest]

Yeah, why do people strongly dislike the new combat system?

[restive saffron]

Cuz they like their simple click fast combat 🦍

Jk jk, but honestly people unwilling to play 1.16 are living in the past

[olive marlin]

I don't like either of the combat systems. Though prefer current one over 1.8

[untold copper]

Both. Both are fine.

[olive marlin]

Will see what the combat update will bring.

[restive saffron]

Normally, I’d say yes. But 1.8 is evil.

[lavish crest]

I personally prefer the current combat system, but there are things that I do like about the previous system.

[restive saffron]

It’s whole existence is the fact that it doesn’t change the combat mechanics, has armor stands, etc

1.7 and 1.8 is the platform where most stubborn people are atm, i haven’t tried 1.16.5 skywars tho

[spare venture]

Attack speed is really nice because it adds more depth for us, for example adding lower damage weapons but with high attack speed

[lavish crest]

True

[untold copper]

how do you heal yourself in genshin

[spare venture]

Would be cool if the new combat update adds weapon reach ad a mechanic

[restive saffron]

Servers like hypixel have their SkyBlock as 1.8.9 and they’re trying to cover the fact of their plugins needing overhauls to be updated to 1.16

[untold copper]

What?

Hypixel Skyblock in 1.8?

Wow... thats... amazing

[restive saffron]

Look at this forum

https://hypixel.net/threads/skyblock-isnt-updating-to-1-16-and-heres-why.3183164/

[vernal moth]

What a shit post

Lmao

[untold copper]

It seems legit

[waxen panther]

how does it seem legit

idk why they let posts from random people like this stay on the forums lol

[untold copper]

how does it not seem legit?

sorry for my smolbrain

[waxen panther]

he doesnt have any staff roles

unless "vip" is staff on hypixel

[untold copper]

I see

[vernal moth]

It's written by somebody who isn't a developer

It's pretty apparently

Also quotes a vid bal salc1, so you know it's bad

[foggy veldt]

What happened to paper chan

[vernal moth]

Who?

[waxen panther]

"Updating = Rewriting all plugins."

lmfao

[untold copper]

salc1 is not a bad youtuber if thats what you mean

[granite flax]

When minecraft updates, so does it's plugin system. This isn't just a simple tweak in one or two lines of code. This is a complete overhaul of everything. This means any number of things. First off, it would take most likely several months, if not years to complete this. Just look how long dungeons took, now imagine how long completely rebuilding skyblock's backend from the ground up.
wtf is this

[vernal moth]

He is tho

[foggy veldt]

What about it

[vernal moth]

He has no clue about performance stuff and yet still makes a clickbaity vid a out it

[untold copper]

eh

ok

[restive saffron]

They do have to be rewritten because Hypixel put themselves into this position and it’ll take time to get themselves out of it.

I wonder what software 2b2t runs on

Imagine, it runs on pure vanilla and wonders why it can’t survive past 1.13 😳

[lavish crest]

I doubt that hypixel will ever update though. They will lose too many players who do not want to update.

[restive saffron]

It’s a lose lose situation but when Hypixel falls off like Mineplex did back in the day, that’ll be fun.

[foggy veldt]

2b2t doesn’t run on pure vanilla

[lavish crest]

Yeah, the opportunity for Hypixel to update has passed years ago.

[restive saffron]

Then what is it running?

[magic river]

Incumbents run in to this problem a lot. They don't want to lose what they have now so they don't try for anything new and eventually the new stuff pushes them out

[foggy veldt]

No clue but it’s some form of spigot. I wrote the original version of the queue plugin for them in ~2016 on spigot

[vernal moth]

2b2t runs paper last I checked

[magic river]

Only times that doesn't happen is when the incumbent stays agile or when they have a monopoly

Monopoly isn't possible in Minecraft so...

[warm anchor]

He’s bad lol

Just as bad as fitMC

Just there for your clickbait

[restive saffron]

He does tell good stories though that are generally a bit misleading