I only ever care about the World Series in baseball too
#general
left swift
Read that as 0.50 drugs
spare venture
Probably that too
magic river
Baseball is a very tactical game, it's a head game between the pitcher and batter (skill obviously matters too) and then when the batter "wins" the rest of the team gets to play a little š
solid sentinel
hey
magic river
If you can't see where the pitches are going you can't get the same suspense
spare venture
I played baseball when I was younger and watched it a decent amount so I know a lot about it, but I just donāt care about it as much as football, hockey, and basketball
But yeah youāre right about not being able to see anything
magic river
I find it hard to sit myself down and take the time to watch baseball, the game definitely doesn't work to watch if you aren't paying much attention
left swift
A good angle for the pitch is position a camera behind the pitcher to have los to batter but obviously far away and get a zoomie zoom lens
spare venture
Itās a good sport to have on in the background tho
magic river
The highlights from a baseball game don't tell you much about how the game went
left swift
Sports in a minecraft server what are we Normans or somethin
magic river
American football is probably the best sport to have on in the background
Just about every play is or can be exciting and the games are close enough that one play can change them
cunning raft
it's a pretty bad plugin afaik
magic river
Lets be honest, most plugins are shit
cunning raft
i don't have the exact reasons on me
i remember people talking shit about it though
golden gust
erm, past the whole "it breaks in stupid ways practically every minecraft update", it's kinda k
magic river
There are probably only about a dozen that are good enough for me to be willing to use and/or big enough that it's not worth writing my own
cunning raft
oh it was the author who was a moron
kept joining paper related discord to start shit
ye
also his plugin broke a lot of shit too
i guess he broke parrots somehow lmfao
spare venture
yes I remember when he did that
magic river
How the hell could a tab list plugin break parrots?
limber knotBOT
I just use BTLP š
spare venture
maybe they arenāt the problem
Amaranth, it messes with name tags, teams, and a bunch of other crap
cunning raft
also it was using unmapped nms methods without version checks
magic river
I thought Mojang unhooked the tab list from the name and team above your head
cunning raft
md_5 changed a mapping, broke everything
magic river
Since so many people wanted to use the tab list for UI
cunning raft
no
magic river
md_5 changed a mapping, broke everything
mmm versioned packages
cunning raft
he didn't break it
the tab guy did
he wasn't checking for version
was blindly using nms
vernal moth
Hopefully versioned packages are soon to be a thing of the past
spare venture
It has to do with the names on tamed pets
magic river
I thought md_5 got rid of the versioned packages?
vernal moth
No he changes version whenever he wants
cunning raft
Hopefully versioned packages are soon to be a thing of the past
paperweight wen hangar wen minimappingsviewer v2 wen
magic river
If he didn't then the plugin couldn't blindly access NMS stuff, it'd be looking for classes that no longer exist
Unless it was doing that trick where you get CraftServer then MinecraftServer then parse the package version out of it that really shit plugins do
vernal moth
paperweight wen hangar wen minimappingsviewer v2 wen
Hopefully yesterday
spare venture
I use TAB because it has some really good sorting
limber knotBOT
gonna love when plugins start breaking due to mojmap changes š
spare venture
Sorting by prefix
vernal moth
Well, we will try to not break them
spare venture
Or by placeholder
spare venture
Itās a discord irc bridge
vernal moth
And then yell at everybody to move to mojmap
limber knotBOT
so you will provide backwards compatibility for renames mojang does internally? 
zealous wedge
Unless it was doing that trick where you get CraftServer then MinecraftServer th...
you mean PEX? :p
zealous wedge
adventure as well
limber knotBOT
because that sounds like a dumb solution lol
magic river
And of you europeans ever use/own a Thermomix?
spare venture
How is the adventure stuff going
vernal moth
If it where my, i would print a warning for every plugin that access internals
spare venture
IRC
vernal moth
If it were me*
limber knotBOT
sounds reasonable to me lol
zealous wedge
seems to have stabilized barty
spare venture
nice, Iāve been out of date for like a month so Iāll give updating a try soon
limber knotBOT
even better: add a config option that needs to be enabled before non-api stuff can be accessed
(or a startup parameter)
magic river
you mean PEX? :p
If you're using it to figure out what backend you need to load to work with that version you're fine. If you're just doing reflection or ASM rewriting your classes to access the current version it's shit
zealous wedge
i'm doing all reflection lol
spare venture
vernal moth
even better: add a config option that needs to be enabled before non-api stuff c...
Better, force jigsaw onto plugins
magic river
I mean, I always did think PEX was shit so that fits š
spare venture
Congrats
zealous wedge
well, PEX only really needs to access CB so it's less bad
vernal moth
Still bad
zealous wedge
adventure i do some funky logic to guess various unmapped methods
glad adventure is directly in paper now
spare venture
Very cool
I canāt wait for the day of hard fork and I can stop using shitty spigot stuff
magic river
iirc sponge permissions just acknowledge that what people really wanted is a tree
spare venture
Uh no, purpur is gonna be more optimized because it has Tuinity patches in it
āOptimizedā
zealous wedge
i wrote sponge permissions api based around the mistakes of PEX lol
magic river
Bukkit is a KV store people use as a tree and then that makes people want foo.* to be a thing
zealous wedge
luckperms doesn't really do a tree still sadly
spare venture
Purpur has some nice changes too, like despawning projectiles better
A lot of it could be done by adding API stuff instead, but oh well
magic river
I swear I brought up the tree idea for sponge to push back against a proposal that was basically Bukkit but with the plugin providing the entire lookup logic (aka like things were before Bukkit added the permission API)
spare venture
Although most people are too dum to make a plugin to take advantage of an API vs a config option
magic river
Like, Sponge would still have a hasPermission API but it would just delegate entirely to the plugin
zealous wedge
it's possible? I thought i was inspired by an old sk blog post though lol -- it also went back and forth a few times
and the current state is plugins provide all the implementation but the API spec says that they should use a tree
magic river
I might have just been arguing for it strongly and not been the one who brought it up to begin with
I know I wanted to do that to Bukkit but API breaks
Oh god so it ended up being the system where you need to cache all your permission lookups anyway
zealous wedge
ah yea
magic river
Before the permissions API in Bukkit NoCheatPlus used to cache all permission lookups and maintain a rating of how bad permission plugins were at answering various lookups
Err, I guess maybe it was just NoCheat back then?
spare venture
Using the regular hasPermission from bukkit is so much easier than using the luckperms api haha
Yea, go ask in their discord for future questions tho
ashen cliff
@vale rune what did you do?
spiral robin
@static badge
spare venture
RT I was trying to sign in earlier and got infinite redirects
ashen cliff
I assume he tried to push the async everything patch again.
spare venture
Async GitHub
ashen cliff
Everything includes GitHub, yes.
spare venture
Time is an artificial construct
golden gust
See, I think that the "vault way" of doing perms is nice
spare venture
It is
golden gust
and even love sponge for shipping in their own vault sorta like system
biggest issue I have with vault is that it reaaaallly needs replacing
spare venture
You donāt have to get the instance of the API for every check
vernal moth
WHO BROKE GITHUB
My Twitter feed is filled š
spare venture
I meant to say vault instead of bukkit
vernal moth
Twitter
spare venture
Gitlab is laughing rn
spare venture
mhm
magic river
.gitlab
limber knotBOT
[14:05:44] <Z750> brb moving all my repos to DROP TABLE hosting
spare venture
lmao
quasi valley
inb4 someone "well I use bitbucket"
magic river
I'm laughing right now because we run our own gitlab instance
vernal moth
Don't shame github like that, they just doing windows updates, smh
magic river
Costs like $50/mo I think for the main server and the runners
unkempt drift
oo, a github 500 error. never seen that before
spare venture
Maybe the fire spread to GitHub
unkempt drift
I couldn't cancel a review I somehow started accidentally? idk what was happening but it was def bugging out for me
vale rune
unkempt drift
blame North Korea
spare venture
Literally everything haha
unkempt drift
someone forgot to put a ; at the end of a db update
vernal moth
> not a boss ass unicorn
Unicorn is 504 iirc
cosmic raft
golden gust
I WANT BOSS ASS UNICORN
cosmic raft
I WANT BOSS ASS UNICORN
golden gust
š
unkempt drift
wow, kash got the lame 500 page
cosmic raft
I blame you @unkempt drift
unkempt drift
yeah, there were only so many cool ones to go around, sorrynot sorry I took yours
coarse urchin
wow, kash got the lame 500 page
Next is the browser 500 page
spare venture
This person was banned for placing a bunch of sand dicks outside of someoneās town and their excuse was āI was building the base of a sand castle and got sidetrackedā
unkempt drift
wow, party that's literally cancel culture š
olive garden
ooookay
olive marlin
Third party Discord client detected? 
spare venture
cancel culture lol
spare venture
Fortunately sandstone exists
untold copper
thats an epic excuse tho
spare venture
Iāve heard better excuses
olive garden
"it was my dog"
spare venture
Some guy claimed he didnāt grief a town, that he was living in the basement of a library and that someone else got on the public computer and did it while he was sleeping
worn ember
How many times can you subtract 10 from 100?
olive garden
yes
spare venture
no u ded
formal turret
once
spare venture
go to school
limber knotBOT
as often as you want ded
unkempt drift
yeah, infinite times
limber knotBOT
although doing it more than once is a bit pointless
left swift
Ded asking one of those dumb questions
spare venture
well his name is synonymous with dum
worn ember
@formal turret good job
spare venture
haha very funni
limber knotBOT
the 100 doesn't change after subtracting 10
spare venture
^
limber knotBOT
you get a new number 90, the 100 stays the same smh
left swift
You cant argue with 5towns
worn ember
How do you know
left swift
What's the code for making a strike through text on discord? ~~?
worn ember
No
olive garden
this
worn ember
10 on each side
spare venture
formal turret
lol yea that works too nomana
left swift
I thought that's where the joke was going
worn ember
@spare venture didn't know iq went into the negatives
olive marlin
Should have looked at your IQ report then.
untold copper
formal turret
oh man he pulled the uno reverse card on you
twin lagoon
@static badge
olive marlin
@twin lagoon
spare venture
@static badge
twin lagoon
@static badge
spare venture
mfw one of my admins accepted his appeal and unbanned him
worn ember
mfw one of my admins accepted his appeal and unbanned him
Whomst
formal turret
sand penis man
worn ember
Wym 2 lines. It's only 1 line. Where's the \n huh
worn ember
200/100 is also 1 line
spare venture
This person was banned for placing a bunch of sand dicks outside of someoneās to...
@worn ember
left swift
200/100 is also 1 line
Would expect more for an rtp developer smh
worn ember
Yeah well ur shit out of luck lmao
visual egret
dumcord
worn ember
worn ember
i know right
modest path
makes me cry
worn ember
it looks so real in some places
modest path
the fact that he can get that running at like 60fps too is amazing
i wish i could do something like that
worn ember
yeah, realtime
worn ember
yeah, hes a music designer
formal turret
wowee that ending music
worn ember
what Ark could have been
spare venture
dumcord
Infuriating how editing messages works with blocked people
Makes me want to get a PC
formal turret
oh man he's got a spotify too, don't see the song from the end tho
spare venture
Too bad even budget PCs are extremely expensive due to GPUs
worn ember
yeah ur 2 years too late to get into pc gaming
spare venture
Buying a prebuilt from micro center is like one of the best options now
$900 for that is a bargain
warm anchor
Well with the bundle price and OEM. The prebuilt isnt as bad as before. They still cheap out on the usual stuffs though like PSU, RAM, and airflow etc 
spare venture
Mhm
worn ember
buy mana
spare venture
Most GPUs are like $500 and up tho
warm anchor
It's actually quite hard to do a DIY build and beaet prebuil price if you account for the OEM Windows (if that's your thing)
untold meadow
tbf, you don't really need to buy windows anymore
spare venture
Simply because of GPU prices
warm anchor
yeah
spare venture
Right now the only real options are get railed on shitty pricing, wait out the shortage, or buy a prebuilt
warm anchor
I do see 3090 in stock here. Multiple cards but mehhhh
wet tangle
I finally got my server working!!! Iāve been trying to set up an ultra low power dockerized minecraft server for a while now and I finally have it.
spare venture
3090 is so over the top tho
wet tangle
Bungeecord + limbo + mcsleepingserverstarter + papermc = low power when nobody is in, but always up
limber knotBOT
Haven't heard about the third one
But you are still a heretic person for using bungee
left swift
Lol
wet tangle
The third one is a simple program that simulates a Minecraft server, and when you connect it kicks you and launches the real one.
And I plan on switching to waterfall
I didnāt find out about it until later
Should it have lower resource use when nobody is connected?
visual egret
i would recommend ditching the bungee family completely and moving to velocity
wet tangle
Why?
wet tangle
In what way
left swift
Cuz it starts with a v
wet tangle
Does it support luckperms?
visual egret
yeah
worn ember
make it a thing š
wet tangle
Is velocity written in Java?
visual egret
java
wet tangle
Thatās the one thing I am sad about
visual egret
look at github
wet tangle
I want to build some Minecraft stuff in rust
visual egret
I really wish I could have discordsrv at the proxy level
HibernaDiscord is WIP and it should work on velocity/bungee soon
wet tangle
I mean itās only a meme until you start using it and realize how great it is
golden gust
Thing is that if you wanna make a large project, you need contribs
in a community which is hiiiighly java oriented, oof
wet tangle
Yeah I know it doesnāt make sense for Minecraft
Though the proxy space is somewhere I could see it actually becoming a thing
Cause there arenāt that many huge important plugins that absolutely have to work
Or something like limbo server
worn ember
havent touched rust, would probably prefer it over c or c++ tho
vernal moth
There is just no benefit when java just works and is so much easier and so much more understood
olive garden
havent touched rust, would probably prefer it over c or c++ tho
have you touched C++?
wet tangle
You should mess with it. Itās a really lovey language
worn ember
too low level for my liking
wet tangle
Thatās what I love
vernal moth
I did mess with it, else i wouldn't shit on it
I don't like shitting on stuff i don't know
wet tangle
I would rather think about performance in the code than tune a GC
I mean there are problems like everything else
worn ember
memory management sounds like a fun subject but also a giant PITA
vernal moth
Don't need to put much thought into GC
visual egret
speaking of memory managment, any advice on getting 512mb instances of paper running well in spawn chunks only
vernal moth
I just don't see any reason to not use java when it works good enough
visual egret
asking for a... friend?
golden gust
most memory in bungee/waterfall is offheap outside of stuff like scoreboards, so GC is generally not an issue
(assuming you're not running on windows)
512mb for modern mc is a good joke, tbqh
worn ember
cat, my windows has been running for almost 2 months now, its only using 20gb
wet tangle
Just to be clear, Iām not planning on trying to write my own proxy in rust
left swift
Running on a window would break the window though so just not a good time overall, don't want glass everywhere
golden gust
the game loads a lot more data at once in modern versions, tbqh
vernal moth
Which is what we ask for all the time
So we got to deal with the consequences and it's well worth
golden gust
pros and cons of making stuff faster in general is that generally you gotta blow more resources at it
worn ember
isnt the point of making it faster so it doesnt need as much resources
worn ember
ig that falls under more efficient
formal turret
you better run
golden gust
at the end of the day, if you gotta get to a specific result faster, you either gotta reduce the amount of work or make it happen in parallel or other fun stuff
worn ember
tbh i think java is obnoxious to use cuz its so verbose but icba to learn something else lmao
spare venture
GC really is such a small impact on the performance of a server
golden gust
the chunk system is much more parallel, but, for best efficency, it has to load further out
doing stuff in parallel = you got more memory being thrown around at any one time
unreal quarry
perpendicular when?
golden gust
So, spigot is actually less resource hungry in some cases
wet tangle
I didnāt like how everything is shoved in a class for the sake of being āobject orientedā
golden gust
ofc, that being less resource hungry comes at the cost of overall performance
worn ember
MC on Quantum: "Lag or no lag? you wont know till the next tick"
wet tangle
Like OO is not the be all end all of paradigms
worn ember
all i ever found is that non OOP gets real messy real fast
spare venture
So you just donāt like java as a preference
wet tangle
Yeah itās obviously still a good language
Iām just talking shit
Cause I personally canāt stand it
unreal quarry
i cant stand people that cant stand things :3
modest path
HibernaDiscord is WIP and it should work on velocity/bungee soon
is hibernadiscord your plugin?
visual egret
no
olive garden
all i ever found is that non OOP gets real messy real fast
of course it does when you use functional or procedural programming incorrectly
they all have their use cases, OOP just seems to be easy
worn ember
maybe to some extend
ashen cliff
JS can be anything you want it to be.*
- Excluding actually working.
worn ember
lmao
wraith trail
js isn't that bad
worn ember
it just has a lot of weird quirks cuz its so openly defined
pretends to know what i'm talking about
woven otter
js is nice if you're into bdsm
worn ember
@ashen cliff https://youtu.be/QiFBgtgUtfw
visual egret
pin
left swift
Duck knows from experience
ashen cliff
Yes.
worn ember
i laugh every time i see this
vernal moth
git rm --cached ftw
worn ember
its basically my git experience in a nutshell
woven otter
git gud
visual egret
why is gitignore so weird
golden gust
it's not
it won't remove any existing files if they're added to the exclude
you'd basically need to commit their removal manually
worn ember
commit yeetus deletus
meager tusk
he's a very quirky guy ded
worn ember
i just have dense bones
worn ember
why are you so funny?
wraith trail
discords spotify implementation is so scuffed
not a single thing it'll say is not available in my country
worn ember
are you german?
wraith trail
might just be a problem with my client
maybe the somehow block it for modified clients
olive garden
do you live in canada ded?
worn ember
ik germany has some weird policies around music
olive garden
no you don't
worn ember
thats why i asked
visual egret
not available in your country but it still plays the music
worn ember
no you don't
you dont know me
visual egret
scuffed
olive garden
sure I don't
olive garden
no
worn ember
magic river
Oh hey it turns out SQL did that thing standards do where they turn in to everything
They're adding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_Query_Language now
fallen oracle
I've seen GQL used a lot more in web design with react and whatnot.
potent fossil
Graph dbs are used a lot in social networks
Oh that's not graph db that's graphql smh
untold meadow
ah nice, extending SQL to include something almost completely unrelated to SQL
zero reason why they can't be two nice separate standards, but fuck it i guess
wait does this mean compsci academics are going to have to invent some new maths that covers both so they can continue pretending that compsci is a science?
worn ember
math isnt science?
potent fossil
??????
What the fuck is this person on about
GQL had existed for years and is an implementation of graphs which are part of graph theory which is math and science, and while pure math isn't a science computer science definitely is
left swift
Angry words!!!
olive garden
Graph dbs are used a lot in social networks
social networks are complicated and I have never encountered them in articles / in practice (development wise) :D
potent fossil
arent even talking about true graph dbs
we were talking about graphql, which i mistook for graph db
graphql is used everywhere
olive garden
well I have no clue what GQL are
potent fossil
even hangar i believe
olive garden
I mistook it for graphdb first
I assumed it was a query language used for graph databases
potent fossil
it is query lang, but for any db with a graphql server sitting in front
olive garden
I see
worn ember
what does it graph?
potent fossil
its not a graph in that sense
spare venture
itās a db written on graph paper
potent fossil
it views the db as a traversable graph (math topic) and can create specialized queries so it only pulls the exact data needed
olive garden
hey @worn ember wanna get better?
worn ember
hey <@!208641151509463051> wanna get better?
better at what? i'm already max stat in everything but math
untold meadow
yeah graph theory exists but a combination of relational algebra and graph theory doesn't
computer science is an art, not science, and i will die on this hill
olive garden
jokes aside, martin fowler has some great presentations mostly unrelated to these topics
I assume that's a poor attempt at a joke, Kezz
potent fossil
lmao.
sounds like someone who dont know the full breadth of cs
"cs is programming therefore it's art"
olive garden
wow simple is not being nice and "uwu" all the time, haven't seen that in a while
potent fossil
dont attack my major of study and i will return to uwu
wide chasm
CS is a science, SE is an "art" imo
potent fossil
i'd agree, to some extent
topaz mortar
Computer Science is more Science than Math. š
olive garden
what are you minoring in, simple?
potent fossil
haven't really decided
spare venture
simple ur dum
olive garden
are you in uni atm?
potent fossil
No, I'm in community college. Which is a cheaper version of the first 2 yrs in the US
spare venture
smart choice
potent fossil
I'll transfer to uni soon(ish)
olive garden
be a chad like Europe and get free university and free healthcare
potent fossil
yeah i wish
spare venture
same courses, usually easier, much cheaper, and you get the same degree in the end as people who did the 4 year at a uni
worn ember
CS is a science, SE is an "art" imo
I'm a true code artist
spare venture
My degree only cost $68k 
wide chasm
Yeah, your code is like abstract art: nobody knows what it means
spare venture
However itās gonna be worth it because I get to do what I want to do and it pays well
olive garden
My degree only cost $68k <:Sadge:790013165282000908>
are you like $50k in debt and waiting for these debts to be cancelled?
spare venture
Nah I have no debt
olive garden
nice
spare venture
Even if I did, it wouldnāt be that hard to pay off with the path Iām taking
untold meadow
it's my major too
olive garden
what's your minor?
this concept of a major/minor is kind of foreign to me
literally
topaz mortar
My degree only cost $68k <:Sadge:790013165282000908>
Get away with 4800ā¬. Studied to long.
olive garden
ohhh
potent fossil
so how is AI research not science? algs and data structures? different computation theories? info science? cryptography? systems theory? and like, the 600 other things CS is besides programming?
untold meadow
the boundary between disciplines is completely arbitrary and not an an attack at all - simply an observation of the arbitrary nature of things and the decision that i have made to prefer that the line be drawn elsewhere
potent fossil
this is 200% not worth my time, have fun with that janky opinion though
spare venture
science is just philosophy for people who like math and real results /s
untold meadow
i literally cannot argue with you
potent fossil
@spare venture https://youtube.com/watch?v=JBcri8Z3WXo
spare venture
not everyone wants to argue
potent fossil
untold meadow
like if we define science and art how it is classically defined then yeah you are utterly correct
spare venture
Is that electronic sea shanty
spare venture
Haha awesome
worn ember
Yeah, your code is like abstract art: nobody knows what it means
free obfuscation for my ploogins
spare venture
Youāll hate that I said it but I saw a ton of that stuff especially that song on TikTok a month or two ago
untold meadow
me personally i am redefining science
potent fossil
okay well if we live in a separate world where science is redefined then yes absolutely everything is art and poop is food.
spare venture
well poop is food to a man who is desperate
worn ember
i dont think you can live of feces simple
potent fossil
no! remember life of pi he ate his shit and violently spit it out bc it had no nutritional value
spare venture
The life of pi was some weird cannibal thing right
potent fossil
no
spare venture
I was supposed to read it but I spark noted it
potent fossil
kid lost at sea with tiger friend
spare venture
Well werenāt the āanimalsā people?
spare venture
I think there are theories that they were people
untold meadow
if science is defined how i want it to be defined, then compsci is an art - if it's defined how society defines it then yes it's a science
potent fossil
dont fuck with my brain :(
spare venture
Google it if you want to go down a rabbit hole
And reread it
Nah I like the idea that computer science people are artists rather than scientists because it makes me feel more superior to them
potent fossil
Lmao fuck off
spare venture
spare venture
Words that everyone has agreed to on their meaning
untold meadow
i missed that meeting damn
spare venture
Well, at my university the only thing separating a Computer Information Science major and a Computer Science and Engineering major was taking calc 2, an extra science class, and a basic freshman engineering course
Wonky definition of an engineer, if you ask me
Engineering is a pretty broad term
potent fossil
i dunno, my cs degree is hitting me with calc 1-4, eng phys 1-3, chem 1, and then quite a few on things such as algs, information theory, graph theory, etc. would need to look at exact curriculum
spare venture
Yeah I wasnāt exactly correct but I cba to double check
It was something silly like that tho
Like barely any difference for the title of engineer on your degree
potent fossil
whereas the SE degree is up to calc 2, eng phys 1, no chem, and a bunch of project management and programming languages
which yea, art if you ask me
spare venture
Thatās interesting
IIRC CIS is a BA and CSE is a BS?
I donāt really care about that garbage anymore haha
potent fossil
the SE might be a BA at my school, dunno
spare venture
What is physics 3?
potent fossil
for us it's electricity and magnetism i believe
our phys 2 and 3 can be switched, they're not dependent on each other
spare venture
For us physics 1 was mechanics and motion, physics 2 was electricity, magnetism, optics, and waves
potent fossil
let me pull up the catalog sec
spare venture
and I assume by Calc 4 itās diff eq
magic river
Hey look a spectre exploit in your browser https://leaky.page/
potent fossil
Phys 161: The initial semester of a three-semester course in calculus-based physics which emphasizes the origin, nature and application of fundamental concepts and principles. Required for most baccalaureate majors in the physical sciences, engineering and mathematics. Emphasizes mechanics, including measurement, linear and planar motion, statics and dynamics of particles and systems of particles, rigid, elastic and fluid systems
Phys 162: A continuation of PHYS 161 which discusses temperature, heat, thermodynamics, simple harmonic and wave motion, sound, geometric and physical behavior of light, as well as topics in modern physics, which may include the special theory of relativity, and the quantum theory of atomic and nuclear systems.
Phys 163: A continuation of PHYS 161 which discusses electrostatic forces, fields and potentials, steady electric currents and circuits, magnetic forces and fields, induced electric and magnetic fields, electric and magnetic properties of continuous media, reactive circuits and electromagnetic waves.
and yea, calc 4 = linear alg and diff eqs for our school
spare venture
Oh okay
potent fossil
so for me, since Phys 162/163 aren't dependent and they switch between teaching 162/163 every sem, I'll be doing 161->163->162
spare venture
Electricity and magnetism sucks btw
spare venture
Yeah but youāll get through it
formal turret
i stopped looking at what else i'd have to do when i saw the calculus lel
worry about the other horrors when i get closer
spare venture
Calc isnāt too bad
formal turret
yea but i have bad math habits so i make dumb mistakes
spare venture
olive garden
Calc isnāt too bad
That depends on you uni, some here are notorious for the percentage of fails
potent fossil
depends on teacher for sure
my calc 1 teacher was horrible, calc 2 teacher was amazing and filled in my calc 1 gaps, and my calc 3 teacher is pretty chill but not nearly as good
spare venture
That depends on you uni, some here are notorious for the percentage of fails
Our math department was miserable but looking back on it, it wasnāt that bad
wide chasm
Over the years I more and more realize how much of a difference a good teacher makes. My teacher for computer architecture and computer networks was so good, he carried me through that course, I'd have failed without him for sure.
potent fossil
nope, i tried in ff but it didnt le work
magic river
I couldn't figure out a way to tune it to work in FF either
Trying to tune it in Chromium 90 now but it seems to have locked up
waxen panther
ooo
i will when i restart back to windows
also amaranth you know that weapongradewaifu thing you linked months ago, they still havent shipped my stuff 
magic river
That sucks
I forgot they existed until you just said something, found the site and thought it was funny, never bought anything there
waxen panther
i just bought a couple of funny ones
idk it was only like $20 total so im not too upset, hopefully they'll come eventually
worn ember
scammed
olive marlin
Does anyone know if rejected ban appeals in PaperMC result in some sort of notification that it was rejected? Or its silently ignored?
wide chasm
The user should get a DM from one of us
olive marlin
Thanks Stef <3
modest path
what
deluxeasyncjoinleavemessages
what a uh
specific plugin
PreAsyncJoinPlayerEvent
PostPreAsyncJoinPlayerEvent
AsyncJoinPlayerEvent
PrePostAsyncJoinPlayerEvent
PostAsyncJoinPlayerEvent
PostPostAsyncJoinPlayerEvent
PrePreAsyncLeavePlayerEvent
PreAsyncLeavePlayerEvent
PostPreAsyncLeavePlayerEvent
AsyncLeavePlayerEvent
PrePostAsyncLeavePlayerEvent
PostAsyncLeavePlayerEvent
PostPostAsyncLeavePlayerEvent```i can't even load the DeluxeFreeUltraSuperSpigotPaperMinecraftSuperBullshitGo class because it fucking crashed my browser @worn ember
unkempt drift
... what is this?
worn ember
i think its a joke
modest path
you think it's a joke
No i'm dead serious this is the peak of java development right now
upper flicker
I dont see any factories anywhere
cant really be peak of java dev
without factories
wide chasm
No factories?! Amateur.
fallen oracle
Okay but the real thing is only 1220. That's interesting that Chrome will render that entire comment.
formal turret
haha funni coding meme
modest path
Would people play: SS13 in minecraft?
potent fossil
no idea what that is
magic river
TIL you can play Japanese claw machine games over the internet
You pay them money, they point a camera at the machine and let you control the claw, if you win something they ship it to you
upper flicker
wat
magic river
I think that's how it works anyway https://claw.jp/
potent fossil
thanks, I seriously hate it
cunning raft
toreba too
upper flicker
I guess it's not the worst thing the internet has ever been used for
potent fossil
lmao you can just keep playing random claw machines for different products, this is the most ridiculous niche thing I've ever seen
but, I guess, cool in the idea
magic river
Sometimes you'll see people messing with the machines or giving you a thumbs up when you win or something too, it's weird
potent fossil
"lemme just play a claw machine to...rolls die...get a new keyboard"
https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/ššš¼šš.png
or perhaps a fucking yakitori grill 
https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/š½šš³ā±š.png
potent fossil
hey michale, any idea off the top of your head what a slime world that's 3kx3k (but not survival, its just a huge map) size would be like?
dawn pulsar
hi š
twin lagoon
hey michale, any idea off the top of your head what a slime world that's 3kx3k (...
small
id imagine like 100mb
potent fossil
oh sick
merry talon
why
void void
Im bored
true canyon
Okay.
void void
What you all doing
tropic flame
i figured out why this old CPU of mine wouldn't support Windows 10
it has everything required... except for this seemingly obscure instruction called CMPXCHG16B
merry talon
that must be pretty damn old then
tropic flame
yeaaahh...
in theory I can run Windows 8 since it doesn't require that instruction
not 8.1 though
tropic flame
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ it's still running Windows 7, currently
void void
In the mood for Strawberry shortcake
left slate
Oh I initially thought you meant the videos/posts on there are toxic/stupid, but yeah there's a lot of data harvesting they do lol. However I don't think that equates to it being a virus.
void void
They gonna harvest enough data to fuck you up man
They looking at you through that phone of yours
While you taking a shit, while you in bed scrolling, etc
Anyone remember Hijacking
Danny
Anyone wanna voice call
cunning raft
[ā
] no profile pic
[ā
] random topics
cmon do some more
im trying to win paper general bingo
warm anchor
This happens a lot in the public server. There are bored people going around random discord and talk about things that they may otherwise not have audience 
tropic flame
While you taking a shit, while you in bed scrolling, etc
Look who's outside your window.
potent fossil
[ā
] no profile pic
[ā
] random topics
you mean you dont like pseudohumorous 13 year olds showing up right before mandated bedtime to act like they have absolutely no brain whatsoever in their skulls?
warm anchor
Good afternoon Simple 
potent fossil
what's wrong with you?
potent fossil
Good afternoon Simple <a:weebravemove:738228963721216012>
hello
tropic flame
LMFAO
cunning raft
lmfao simple
warm anchor
They could've send me one for free. I will take it
potent fossil
it's not a question of "if" apple will retire a really expensive but slightly old model with something else really expensive but slightly newer, it's just a matter of when
cunning raft
it would have prob turned out better if siri was just better
warm anchor
I mean Google did it. They gave up free older generation of their first gen house assistant for free for anyone with a YT music sub in US last year.
spare venture
Honestly unless everything in your house is setup to be smart, itās not that useful for have a HomePod, echo, Alexa, etc
warm anchor
I guess so.
cunning raft
they use the interactions you have with the device to target ads
spare venture
The only things Iāve ever seen anyone use them for is music and alarms
cunning raft
they probably can offset the cost
warm anchor
You mean you dont enjoy a podcast in your shitter every morning? @spare venture
warm anchor
True. Siri is basically brain dead
spare venture
Siri on the phone has gotten much better in the past couple of years tbh
upper flicker
Ye it has, but it hasnāt kept up either
spare venture
Two years ago it couldnāt even play songs on Spotify
void void
It still cant i think
cunning raft
problem is apple tries to make everything first party/work with their first party apis
spare venture
It can
void void
You 1000% sure
spare venture
Yes
warm anchor
Well JRoy it works in their favors in few other areas so they gotta try the same formula.
spare venture
I have said āSiri please play X on Spotifyā and it worked
void void
Can u try again
spare venture
Would you believe me more if I said āyes it just workedā?
cunning raft
tf is musi
void void
Free
cunning raft
ok that's great but what is it
spare venture
Anyway yeah Siri isnāt great but like I said the only thing i ever use mobile assistants for is music, calling people, and setting alarms tbh
spare venture
And Siri does those fine, as all the others do
spare venture
Low quality
void void
Same from yt
spare venture
High bandwidth
void void
I dont hear difference
spare venture
But yeah Siri being able to use Spotify finally has been really nice lol
Thought it was so stupid when it didnāt
void void
hi
wraith trail
hi
void void
Wyd
void void
<:riepeek:786841205921153034>
Looking for something to do life boring rn
Can I ask something donāt wanna bring drama@though
I thought md5 did not like the fact paper was a thing
Why is he comfortable with his staff being project leads here
swift root
untold copper
gm
solid siren
how many vcores and ram do i need to set up a multi server with survival and minigame server?
wraith trail
that's a completely useless question, beyond that don't ask in multiple places at the same time
solid siren
that's a completely useless question, beyond that don't ask in multiple places a...
why
wraith trail
because it's so vague no one could even begin to give an answer
magic river
9
limber knotBOT
magic river
SQL support for region storage was contributed by a third-party developer and despite large rewrites, there are major issues with using it. It is highly recommended to never use SQL for storing your WorldGuard regions.
potent fossil
Lol, GG. Didn't read that bit.
mighty storm
"js isn't THAT Bad"
Js:
modest path
js makes me want to cry
so does html and css but i'm hoping ill get used to it
really want to figure out how to make a good looking website but all my experience is in java/c#
potent fossil
at least it's not as bad as php https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtQBEZbWsAIvo15.jpg
T_PAAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM
mighty storm
why is it spitting out anime subtitles
potent fossil
hebrew errors bc dev is hebrew idk
mighty storm
lol
potent fossil
been there for over a decade
mighty storm
added 1966 packages, and audited 1967 packages in 1m
potent fossil
it means unexpected double colon
mighty storm
oof
potent fossil
PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mighty storm
i did all the instructions it told me to!
potent fossil
what command are you running
mighty storm
this is ionic so just ionic serve
potent fossil
i see, it should handle that for you thonker
modest path
why is it spitting out anime subtitles
hebrew
potent fossil
idk
mighty storm
how does NOAH make his coffe
mighty storm
we gonna game in a min here
maybe i forgot a step
simple mistake, happens to the best of us
potent fossil
oh you got it?
mighty storm
nah
potent fossil
o
mighty storm
wait microsoft made typescript?
what the heck
let's just start over, maybe somethin happened
yee worked
spiral orbit
Can someone please help me?
after i updated papercraft
because there was a new update
I can join the server with a private ip
but my friends cant with the public ip
next frost
did your public IP change?
magic river
"Clever" memory use is frowned upon in Rust. In C, anything goes. For example, in C I'd be tempted to reuse a buffer allocated for one purpose for another purpose later (a technique known as HEARTBLEED).
vernal moth
Wait, heart bleed was that exploit in openssl, right?
Oh so it's a joke I see
Rust ppl are strange
In other news, there's a hailstorm raging outside
next frost
np
magic river
Ooh, miners might force Ethereum on to proof-of-stake very soon so maybe I can buy a GPU this year after all
It's a majority of hash power against all the developers, users, services, etc on a mostly unrelated issue but the miners are trying to force the change to not happen so the developers are looking in to doing just the proof-of-stake change relatively soon and rolling out the rest of ETH 2.0 later
That would basically wipe out all the miners entirely
There is still some use for them that I don't really understand because lol crypto but the key seems to be that mining will be something people who own a lot of ETH will want to do instead of something you want to do to earn a lot of ETH
And a lack of mining power doesn't make the thing vulnerable to attacks so you don't need infinity GPUs doing it anymore
vernal moth
well, bitcoin mining is still a thing
as are thousands of other shitty crypto bullshit thingies
ashen cliff
Don't they still need "miners" to run the network?
And going from "anyone can get more crypto" to "only the rich can afford to keep our crypto" is kind of a bad idea in my eyes.
vernal moth
ok, so https://minidigger.github.io/paper-api-diff/changes.html is updated automatically every monday now
vernal moth
with the latest spigot and paper changes, so dem pesky spigot users always know what they are missing out on š
paper addds a wooping 209 methods, excluding the io.papermc package, cause thats broken for some reason in jdiff
unkempt drift
Well thatās missing a bunch then.
vernal moth
yeah, clearly I need to add yet another thing to my todo list š
olive marlin
I'll try to see if I can figure out why it doesn't want to see the package.
It's strange.
and maybe rewrite the whole bash script while I'm at it
olive marlin
But you somehow did it before, right?
ashen cliff
Is there a crypto mining Bukkit plugin btw?
I remember a plugin from a "shady" marketplace that downloaded a Monero miner and rand it in the background.
vernal moth
yeah that was the issue
added a package-info
still doesnt work, mmh
but the error message is gone
no its still there
potent fossil
I remember a plugin from a "shady" marketplace that downloaded a Monero miner an...
Balkan approved marketplace bro??
ashen cliff
No.
potent fossil
Oh shit get away from there bro
void void
Do you guys know any vps/dedi provider that has shitty specs but some good disk space? I basically need to store a lot of data on a MySQL db
ashen cliff
Sadly not bro. We include self destruct code on our market places.
Contabo?
Actually, what country?
void void
Well eu probably
potent fossil
contabo 
void void
kimsufi works for me but it's out of stock
ashen cliff
Hetzner server auction maybe?
potent fossil
seems ok, can probably scroll around some more
watch the hardware and take backups tho
ashen cliff
They include 100GB of NAS storage for free with their servers.
Just make sure to activate it.
potent fossil
o naise
void void
Contabo?
void void
how come
potent fossil
uh, well, it's contabo in short
void void
is it bad SERVER or bad SUPPORT
potent fossil
but, overpriced, shitty support, hardware typically doesnt live very long
ashen cliff
They don't stop abuse. So your VPS neighbor can be taking up all the cache or network.
potent fossil
that too
void void
Maybe a vps isn't even what I need... I just need a MySQL db
any service that provides that only?
potent fossil
twin lagoon
kgb hosting mysql
ashen cliff
Fact!
potent fossil
i mean, lets be real, this person's sql server probably has 1gb of data in it max
ashen cliff
Perhaps.
golden gust
kimsufi, OVH, DO, Vultr, etc, etc, etc
if you're expecting a ton of disk space, you're basically in dedi-land, however
NAS is not cheap
olive marlin
@void void depends on how much bandwidth etc you need, but might be worth using some shady storage provider: https://www.time4vps.com/storage-vps/#annually
I haven't had issue with them so far, but I use them for backups.
The CPUs are not the best, but for my use-case and price it's good enough.
potent fossil
š
untold copper
@ashen cliff which was that mod you used for expanded storage and stuff??
ashen cliff
AE.
untold copper
ohk thanks!
void void
<@456226577798135808> depends on how much bandwidth etc you need, but might be w...
are the SERVERS good with good uptime?
golden gust
if you rely on uptime, don't cheap out
olive marlin
Isn't writing dynamic regexp patterns in bash to perform replacement in JSON file fun?
Will be fun when I'll try to understand it in a month.
olive garden
this reminded me of the cloudflare (?) regex performance thing that caused an outage
partially because I misinterpreted perform as performant
minor badge
@void void Is Germany okay? If so, and assuming 9ā¬/mo is good, Netcup is a good choice https://www.netcup.de/vserver/
They have an English site somewhere, but no idea where 
void void
Germany is fine but 160gb for a storage server isnt the best
minor badge
Then you're probably gonna have to still up some money for it
void void
minor badge
Fairly sure that Hetzner Cloud also has cheap storage, but it's rather unreliable in networking (dedis are okay though)
golden gust
as I said, storage is not cheap
Like, 160GB is a lot for a VPS
unless you're going for something specifically tailed towards a backup VPS in which they generally limit you in other ways
Just, go get a KS machine or something
void void
Is the AMD EPYC 7702 good for a Minecraft server?
golden gust
no
minor badge
I believe I pay 9ā¬/mo (+ dedi costs) for a 2TB drive on top of the 1TB NVMe drives at Hetzner, so it sure is cheap, just gotta pay for the machine itself too :p
golden gust
epyc is trash for MC
void void
So you wouldn't recommend https://www.netcup.eu/bestellen/produkt.php?produkt=2632
minor badge
no, don't get an epyc for MC
void void
Ah, how about the Ryzen 5 3600?
golden gust
it's k
minor badge
Netcup has great servers for shit like K8s clusters, web, etc., not MC
golden gust
ryzen is kinda messy
void void
Anything you guys recommend for about 40 - 50 bucks?
twin lagoon
hetzner 3600
minor badge
AX41 at Hetzner ^^
void void
Perfect, I ordered the AX41-NVMe yesterday
It takes a couple of days to deliver but their prices compared to what you get in return are amazing
ashen cliff
Don't forget you also get 100GB of NAS storage with that.
void void
Does anyone have experience with Hetzner? Specifically about your first order with them
ashen cliff
You pay after 14 days. If that's what you are asking.
void void
i.e. I saw some things in regards of sending a copy of your documents over to them
ashen cliff
I didn't have to.
olive marlin
I did no such things.
warm anchor
Krusic sent them his first born instead 
golden gust
Basically, hosts have mechanisms to prevent bad people on their network
void void
golden gust
if you flag that system, you'll have to send ID, otherwise, you're generally fine
some hosts are more stringent about it than others
void void
But then I received that confirmation e-mail a few minutes later
golden gust
e.g. OVH is fuuuun, but, they're also a primary target coz cheap and clean network
void void
Oh I understand and I think that they should do it, because otherwise bad people may target their services,
but I'm more wondering if there is anything else I have to do right now other than waiting
warm anchor
No
worn ember
Fairly sure that Hetzner Cloud also has cheap storage, but it's rather unreliabl...
Haven't had a single issue with hetzners network on my vCloud server
void void
Looks really promising
I was also confused about how terrible the reviews of OVH / Hetzner are
but I guess that happy customers just didn't write a review
void void
Indeed
warm anchor
Have you read some of the review? Most of them are idiots
void void
Yes I have haha