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brave radish
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tell MS they're the ones who made windows

worn ember
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you can disable them in group policies

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you mean this one?

limber knotBOT
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yeah

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it again reset all my audio devices

brave radish
limber knotBOT
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I reported that when the 1909 update hit

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and they didn't fix shit

worn ember
limber knotBOT
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lol

worn ember
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didnt know windows was that old

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/s

brave radish
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😆

solemn mist
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what is the best way to get one player sleep

lament patio
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Pick a plugin

zealous wedge
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there's a gamerule for that i think?

lament patio
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That'd be for 1.17, zml

zealous wedge
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ah

solemn mist
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does essentials have it

zealous wedge
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idk ask them

worn ember
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no

mental meadow
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eww i opened a can of pringles and they taste like spoiled milk

worn ember
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i love chunky milk pringles

zealous wedge
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eww

mental meadow
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now I have to make real food smh

twin lagoon
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define real food

mental meadow
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anything else

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I'd order pizza but alice is asleep so she can't allow me plus she is asleep so I'd have to go down and open the door to make sure that no one rings the bell

twin lagoon
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the trick is to get a ring doorbell

mental meadow
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not happening. too many old people live in this house plus ring sucks

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but we do need a new doorbell, ours is kinda falling apart

twin lagoon
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the trick is to get a video doorbell*

limber knotBOT
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the trick is to mute your bell and tell them to call you when they are there

worn ember
twin lagoon
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i don't trust pizza deliverers to give a single fuck about any notes given during an order

wraith trail
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I've got a switch for my doorbell

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assumed it was common

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by this conversation I assume not

mental meadow
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Our doorbell is from 1980, I'm not really sure how to mute that besides straight up ripping it out of the wall

twin lagoon
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never seen a switch for a doorbell

limber knotBOT
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ours have a button with which you can change the ring tone and mute it

mental meadow
worn ember
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flicks switch

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runs away

limber knotBOT
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also they want tips so of course they will try to get you the delivery lol

wraith trail
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that is actually an issue, it's right next to the outside light switch

slow hull
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I've now spent

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hmm 10 hours I think

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looking at this

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Memory leak go brrr

worn ember
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u need to do more than just look

slow hull
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Yes I've been trying

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The thing is I can't figure out why it's leaking, bc when I break on it the value is null

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and has been freed

mental meadow
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Why is every eGovernment website so awful

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Like no matter where you look, everything is awful

solemn mist
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do you know why i kept my inventory on death

wraith trail
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Yes I know

solemn mist
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how do i turn it off when the game rule is off

wraith trail
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delete your level.dat, remove all plugins

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issue solved

solemn mist
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lmao

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any other ways

wraith trail
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speaking more seriously despite your dumbly worded question, essentials has a permission for that. You probably accidentally gave it to yourself.

solemn mist
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thx

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i am sorry do u know the command

wraith trail
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essentials.keepinv or something

tropic flame
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essentials has a permission like that?

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i made my own plugin for nothing then...

peak ginkgo
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your impl is probably better

potent fossil
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that's why my family's company has an exclusive contract for the local military base

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sounds cool, just means we dont make shit :D

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same idea with webdev tho, whoever bids lowest gets to make it

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and then...:) less than awezum resultz

unkempt drift
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Just bid low, then have it not work, and say you need more money. And get more money. 🙂 EZ

potent fossil
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If it only it were really that EZ

unkempt drift
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Well, it has to work for a while, and have everyone think they can’t function w/o it.

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THEN have it not work and need more money.

potent fossil
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The government doesn't really work like that. Lol

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If you sign a contract at a given amount that's what you get

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You gotta figure it out

unkempt drift
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If stuff doesn’t work, they usually throw more money at it. Oh yeah. Governments NEVER go over budget

potent fossil
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That's why you bid your estimated cost + desired profit

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That's for huge projects

unkempt drift
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That’s what I’m talking about

potent fossil
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Things where they do bids to find a contractor are typically very tightly budgeted and does not budge

unkempt drift
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(See California’s laughable high speed train)

potent fossil
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I'm speaking from experience being in a contract with the government

peak ginkgo
worn ember
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you mean where they throw half a mill at a spreadsheet app?

slow hull
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gdi

worn ember
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or when they throw 3mill at an app that broke at release and got scrapped after all together

mental meadow
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Or they paid 1,26kk€ for a amazon replacement that failed after 2 days

worn ember
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love tight government budgets lul

peak ginkgo
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how much is...

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kk

slow hull
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kk = thousand thousand = million = M

peak ginkgo
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jesus

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or when they throw 3mill at an app that broke at release and got scrapped after all together
imagine being THIS developer

mental meadow
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writing million is hard

peak ginkgo
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not wearing headphones but i'll trust the audio is just as perfect

worn ember
slow hull
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#include <stdlib.h>

int main()
{
  while (1)
  {
    malloc((size_t) 1024 * 1024 * 1024);
    fork();
  }
  return 0;
}
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guys I have a memory leak but I can't find it help

worn ember
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clearly the issue is that you didnt use java /s

potent fossil
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He got it right too KEK

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oh the question was just rewriting axiom 3

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that's not too bad. still creative though lmao

peak ginkgo
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AMD or Intel CPU for Minecraft stuff

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replacing my ol reliable server because it's fucked and im not smart enough to fix it

potent fossil
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intel i think tho

cunning raft
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intel has historically had better single threaded perf

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amd only recently surpassed them on top of the line

peak ginkgo
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idk if I wanna bother michael to fix this machine or just move

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I've wanted a reason to move for a while

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but

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feels

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My host won't change the IP on the new machine either so I gotta do a lot of workkkk

potent fossil
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well we all know michael is the best and most known server mechanic but a new set of wheels and that new server smell gets me every time...

peak ginkgo
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Already tried to see if they would make the switch easier and they were like "good luck"

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Im sorry but we do not migrate data the IPs are bound to the hardware

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thats the response

potent fossil
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are you collocated or something

peak ginkgo
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No just a weird provider

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Colocation would be easier if it wasn't so expensive

mental meadow
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hire michael anyway he is epic

wraith trail
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arent you on wholesaleinternet?

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or was that someone else

peak ginkgo
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That's me

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I do not make bigbux for another US based provider

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esp not OVH US

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I might buy another Nocix box and hire michael to fix this one and then move everything for me

austere ivy
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for a boolean, if it's plural, should it be isParticlesEnabled or areParticlesEnabled

peak ginkgo
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areParticlesEnabled imo but someone might have better wisdom

wraith trail
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I always do is for everything

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but also kinda suck at this

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so don't take my advice

peak ginkgo
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I do is singular and are for plural because that's how I talk

austere ivy
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I've seen a lot of things other than is for booleans

peak ginkgo
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So I'd assume my methods soounds like for me

austere ivy
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like hasManyFriends or shouldBrushTeeth, etc.

peak ginkgo
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I'd consider those "boolean words" lol

austere ivy
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I'll go with areParticlesEnabled thank ye for your input ❤️

peak ginkgo
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Anything you can answer "yes or no" to is a valid starting point to me

wraith trail
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Looking at some stuff I also do has and can

peak ginkgo
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me and nocix are just equally really bad at system admin

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Staff: "Your server is dropping into GRUB rescue during boot."
Me: "I... think I've addressed the issue, can you check this boot for me and let me know if it persists?"
Staff: "It is still dropping to GRUB rescue. error: filef '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found."
Me: "I reinstalled GRUB, if this doesn't work it's a sign"
Staff: "this time it is dropping to a completely different type of GRUB rescue and gives no error."

golden gust
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.rekt

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.rekt DeJay

limber knotBOT
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DeJay, ☑ BaREKT Obama

peak ginkgo
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thats good

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.rekt me

limber knotBOT
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me, ☑ From REKTa With Love

mental meadow
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rektal love?

potent fossil
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yes

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.rekt aurora

limber knotBOT
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aurora, ☑ The Arekters

golden gust
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I'll show you

mental meadow
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Cat has a weird poop fetish

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.cat

wooden ridge
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Bento box do you guys think that’s a good skyblock plugin? Or is it just a mess? I feel like it is but idk... Or do you guys have other recommendations?

mental meadow
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I think it's the only good one out there but I think it has performance issues when you have a lot of players

peak ginkgo
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WHAT

wooden ridge
upper flicker
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weewoo_blueweewoo_red INAPPROPRIATE weewoo_redweewoo_blue

wooden ridge
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Heard of skyblockX?

mental meadow
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never heard of it

wooden ridge
mental meadow
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neither and please stop pinging me

potent fossil
mental meadow
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nothing good i guess? But since you have the avatar from their artist idk what to tell you lol

potent fossil
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^ feels like a tired attempt to dredge up a very tired subject plz just no thx

warm anchor
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🎣

minor badge
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?ban @feral dirge Ban evasion, Chivitos100

leaden oxideBOT
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dynoSuccess Chivitos#2006 was banned | Ban evasion, Chivitos100

left swift
minor badge
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poookiiii

untold copper
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siiiiimpp

potent fossil
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you called, snoopa?

lost drift
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Why does bedrock feel so off after playing Java for a month

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It’s too smooth

sharp sentinel
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Bedrock is in that weird uncanny valley where it almost looks and feels like Minecraft but isn't

untold copper
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hi :3

potent fossil
untold copper
potent fossil
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if I want to give a player "jump 2" as opposed to "jump 1" (per client), do I just need to specify a different amplifier in the PotionEffect class? and how would i know what amplifier is required? o.O

minor badge
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yes, amplifier is the level of potions

potent fossil
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oh

minor badge
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1 = lvl 1, 2 = lvl 2, etc :p

potent fossil
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o thats ez

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ok thx best proxi ever

minor badge
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potions are one of those "might be 1 indexed, might be 0 indexed" things though

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so have fun!

potent fossil
minor badge
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i have not once managed to do it correctly first try

potent fossil
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and u dont remember? :(((

minor badge
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lolno

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just try and see i guess

potent fossil
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k den

minor badge
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or you can spend your time fixing #5212 for me x

potent fossil
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no

minor badge
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wtf

potent fossil
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sorry luv u

meager tusk
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found out from the pseudo scripting languages i have to write for my project managers

slow hull
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update: the memory leak is fixed

minor badge
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@meager tusk thank u best idriz in the entire universe ever GWcmeisterPeepoLove GWcmeisterPeepoLove

meager tusk
untold copper
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@untold copper Bestest snoopa in the universe?

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owo @untold copper best snoopa in the multiverse? :3

olive marlin
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Proximyst pepeclap

autumn glen
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Once again might be a stupid question how do I take my databases from a multicraft based server to another location ? Basically I wanna run the server through windows command line now, but databases aren't syncing

olive marlin
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You want to setup database somewhere else?

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It's mysql?

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In general, you dump database contents to file (for mysql one of the tools is called mysqldump), then restore it to new database.

autumn glen
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Ah i see, multicraft installed MySQL for itself, I should probably install it for the server entirely and somehow transfer it

slow hull
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welp status ping is working and the memory leak is gone. I think that's enough for today

vernal moth
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Heh

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That's also the cool moments, when you actually see something

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Wait till you spawn into a blank world for the first time, or better, actually see blocks and they are even at the right location 🤯

cosmic raft
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@quasi valley ™️

haughty bear
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what are the possible ways to display armor/items on a player? from what I can see only helmet and offhand are supported by default, but is there any clever way to do it seamlessly? something with riding entities?

olive garden
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I hope you guys aren't too busy this week

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after this late sunday adventure update lol

olive marlin
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There will be need of fixing stupid legacy garbage a few more times :/

cosmic raft
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main one is ProtocolLib right now

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doing stupid stuff

vernal moth
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Protocollib always has been strange

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Protocol api in paper when? * Runs *

cosmic raft
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Spigot's fucking repository is having issues

zealous wedge
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when is it not though

twin lagoon
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a

waxen panther
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b

viral hornet
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c

olive marlin
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d

twin lagoon
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@waxen panther weebHuggu

viral hornet
waxen panther
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@twin lagoon hugattack

topaz mortar
void void
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can anyone recommend a bungee plugin that has global messaging? There are a few out there but can't seem to find a popular one

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also what do you guys use to have eg /lobby /skyblock instead of /server lobby /server skyblock ect

ashen cliff
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Slashserver or something like that.

twin lagoon
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slashserver yes

limber knotBOT
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bungee kekw

vernal moth
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Thicc cat

limber knotBOT
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meow

vernal moth
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Filled with kitten 😍

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Due any day now

limber knotBOT
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pog

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paper now supports adventure

olive marlin
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It finally happened, with only 5 issues discovered so far.

cosmic raft
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aikar's stupid timings does not help me testing

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java.lang.IllegalStateException: @NotNull method org/bukkit/Bukkit.getServer must not return null
    at org.bukkit.Bukkit.$$$reportNull$$$0(Bukkit.java) ~[classes/:?]
    at org.bukkit.Bukkit.getServer(Bukkit.java:72) ~[classes/:?]
    at co.aikar.timings.TimingsManager.getCommandTiming(TimingsManager.java:151) ~[classes/:?]
    at org.bukkit.command.SimpleCommandMap.register(SimpleCommandMap.java:73) ~[classes/:?]
    at org.bukkit.command.SimpleCommandMap.register(SimpleCommandMap.java:65) ~[classes/:?]
    at org.bukkit.command.SimpleCommandMap.setDefaultCommands(SimpleCommandMap.java:38) ~[classes/:?]
    at org.bukkit.command.SimpleCommandMap.<init>(SimpleCommandMap.java:34) ~[classes/:?]
    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.command.CraftCommandMap.<init>(CraftCommandMap.java:11) ~[classes/:?]
    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.CraftServer.<init>(CraftServer.java:240) ~[classes/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.PlayerList.<init>(PlayerList.java:84) ~[classes/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.DedicatedPlayerList.<init>(SourceFile:16) ~[minecraft-server-1.16.5-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.DedicatedServer.init(DedicatedServer.java:158) ~[classes/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.w(MinecraftServer.java:936) ~[classes/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.lambda$a$0(MinecraftServer.java:174) ~[classes/:?]
    at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) [?:1.8.0_265]
[03:13:11 ERROR]: This crash report has been saved to: /home/kashike/workspace/PaperMC/Paper/run/./crash-reports/crash-2021-02-22_03.13.11-server.txt
zealous wedge
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how

lean kiln
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lol i get that all the time

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you have to make maven build again

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intellij dum

cosmic raft
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my fix:

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i comment out that line

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since it initialises it later if null anyhow

vernal moth
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Intellij did compile the annotations in, which shouldn't happen, i think you can disable that somewhere

zealous wedge
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by 2030 paper may have updated its lifecycle to work with modern minecraft

waxen panther
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ah

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an optimist

olive marlin
cosmic raft
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@mossy vessel I'm on a weird sleep schedule

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3am for me feels like 12pm

mossy vessel
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I haven't been up that long for a very long time lol

viral hornet
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What's for lunch, kash?

twin lagoon
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@mossy vessel pepelove

cosmic raft
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lasagne

viral hornet
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yum

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I just had roast lamb & veg and now want to food coma

limber knotBOT
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decompiling our cms server at work, the jar is 1gb big :O

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my VM is not happy

ashen cliff
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🤔 No turbo?

limber knotBOT
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am happy I get something other than my poor laptop at all

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this is called a "power" vm internally

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its citrix

forest verge
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what is the best anti-cheat plugin below 10$ and also detect hacked clients thonk

twin lagoon
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nocheatplus

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with a reasonable config behind it like captain_obvious' it'll be ok

ashen cliff
# limber knot its citrix

It should still report the correct frequency and that chip should be able to do like 3.8Ghz all core turbo.

forest verge
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but is it support 1.16.5 ?

twin lagoon
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yes

limber knotBOT
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I have no clue wtf they do with these hosts 🤷

twin lagoon
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xeon gold 6242R

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that's a perfect CPU for a minecraft shared host

limber knotBOT
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if I understood this correctly, we got a full rack of them

twin lagoon
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go tell them to change their business plans mini, become a shitty shared host

forest verge
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is it detect hacked clients like wurst and aristois

twin lagoon
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no hacked client "detects" clients

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it'll just try to stop non-vanilla behaviour

limber knotBOT
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if you would see how much unused resources we have here you would cry

ashen cliff
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INB4 they believe Intel Turbo Boost is overclocking and will kill the CPU.

limber knotBOT
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and then you would see all the hardware he literally did shut down because we dont use it anymore

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apps run on 8 x Intel Xeon Gold 6142 @ 2.60GHz 125,76 GiB apperently

ashen cliff
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I assume that's 8 threads/cores and not chips.

limber knotBOT
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ye

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they do weird stuff

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our kube nodes run in vmware

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cause docker alone isnt enough layers?

ashen cliff
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Need more layers!

limber knotBOT
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am just happy I dont need to touch any of that

forest verge
twin lagoon
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no

forest verge
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but how do i stop this

twin lagoon
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that's xray

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.xray

limber knotBOT
forest verge
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also alytra fly mod

twin lagoon
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you just need a basic anticheat like nocheatplus for that

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most premium anticheats on spigot are all garbage

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in general, anticheats are garbage

forest verge
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ytf they build cheats impossibru

limber knotBOT
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best anticheat is called moderation

ashen cliff
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Or use the 🇨🇳 anticheat. kekwhyper

limber knotBOT
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if you see somebody cheating, nuke em

quasi valley
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you can't cheat the system if you don't have one

waxen panther
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issue 5219 weirdga

cosmic raft
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@cunning raft say it with me

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p a t t e r n

olive garden
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good job kash on all these bug fixes

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much appreciated :)

cosmic raft
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report a bug and it will get fixed

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keep a bug to yourself and that is not tasty

olive garden
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nah, not planning on searching for any bugs

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not sure whether you misunderstood me, I really just wanted to say thanks for your work

cosmic raft
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no problem. and i was just saying that, when bugs get reported they will get fixed

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unreported bugs do not get fixed

limber knotBOT
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wait 2011 was 10 years a go

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i feel old

cosmic raft
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yea well

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back in 2011:

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11/11/11 11:11:11 :D

cunning raft
cosmic raft
woven otter
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fix bugs please

woven otter
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bugs vs developers

limber knotBOT
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(real documentary)

twin lagoon
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@minor badge awa

minor badge
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@twin lagoon awa

limber knotBOT
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adventure is so pog

left swift
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pokiDance adventure pokiDance

limber knotBOT
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why so much poki emotes nomana

left swift
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It makes guys insecure with their income cry

cunning raft
wide chasm
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Do I want to know how much she earns?

worn ember
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more like: do i care how much she earns

woven otter
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whatever you find out it's safe to say that it's more than you

worn ember
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if its more than stef, its definitely more than you

woven otter
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probably more than most people here

cunning raft
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probably safe to say more than everyone here combined

limber knotBOT
cedar spade
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do it

quasi valley
limber knotBOT
ashen cliff
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Do it anyway!

limber knotBOT
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sudo

olive garden
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I love how proxi is promoting FOSS plugins

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but "fos" stands for shit in Hungarian

worn ember
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eat fos trig

olive garden
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thank you drek

worn ember
limber knotBOT
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that's why you should call it "open source" and not FOSS ;)

left swift
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Floss

worn ember
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brush and floss

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olive garden
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I have no issues with that lol

worn ember
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he just means you promote shit

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😉

olive garden
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it's just that the expression is unfortunate in a particular language

cunning raft
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wow that's crazy, same letters mean different thing in different language?

left swift
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It's unfortunate in all languages

olive garden
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It's crazy how we have these latin characters

waxen panther
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do it

wide chasm
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Every language should just create their own set of characters, there's plenty of space left in Unicode /s

waxen panther
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oh i was scrolled up

worn ember
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ew

left swift
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Brocc a bandwagoner

olive garden
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don't worry stef, the way things are going your children will have to end up learning chinese

cunning raft
left swift
olive garden
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an overwhelming amount of non-latin characters will get introduced into your life sooner or later

worn ember
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no i dont think so

olive garden
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why can you speak english, ded?

wide chasm
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I've already had to work with cyrillic characters before, so whatever

worn ember
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because i was born with a gift

ashen cliff
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Just throw some đšćčž his way.

left swift
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We'll speak english until texas doesn't

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So like 5 years tops

wide chasm
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At least a lot of the world uses the same numbers, thank god for that

mental meadow
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It just takes a bit of Übung

limber knotBOT
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glances at Asia

ashen cliff
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VII.

wide chasm
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I had to learn babylonian numbers in elementary school, that was awful

limber knotBOT
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what, why?

wide chasm
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No idea

worn ember
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learning roman ones was bad enough

olive garden
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brain exercise

limber knotBOT
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wouldn't it be better to teach chinese/japanese numbers? lol

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I mean, roman ones are pretty easy

wide chasm
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No, a base-60 numbering system is clearly more useful to learn

limber knotBOT
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and actually useful in adventure games ;D

olive garden
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japanese numbers are simple

limber knotBOT
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they should've just taught hex

olive garden
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they work on the same principle most of us normal folks are used to

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except the french, of course

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they are maniacs

limber knotBOT
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but I guess once you know any non base 10 system you know them all

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the french number naming is actually pretty interesting

wide chasm
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I understand showing different number systems is useful, but really roman numerals are enough imo; those are actually used and useful to know. I don't know of anyone/thing that uses the babylonian number system and a base-60 number system in elementary school is quite difficult.

worn ember
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40 20 8

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yes

limber knotBOT
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99 is actually my favourite french number 4 20 10 9 xD

worn ember
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you could also say it as nonante neuf

wide chasm
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I kinda like the French numbers, but it becomes quite long for these numbers

limber knotBOT
#

that doesn't sound half as cool as quatre-vingt-dix-neuf

worn ember
#

yeah but at least its not aids to write

limber knotBOT
#

I mean, 99 is pretty short to write :P

pastel vapor
#

Hi guys: D) Do you know what it might be? (if anything is installed pterodactyl panel)

wide chasm
#

Please don't cross-post across channels

worn ember
#

my dad once said:

#

no one cares about your feelings

olive garden
#

thank you for sharing

worn ember
#

you're welcome

woven otter
#

guess what. noone asked 🙂

cunning raft
woven otter
left swift
worn ember
vernal moth
#

Behave kids

woven otter
#

have some beer mini

worn ember
#

hu?

woven otter
#

@olive garden

untold meadow
#

oh fuck not thoughty2 lmfao

olive garden
worn ember
#

whats wrong with that?

cunning raft
#

let's just say he should stick to history

cunning raft
#

i mean shaun is dumb too but his video on him is fine

worn ember
#

i mostly agreed with what he said tbh

untold meadow
#

for sure

worn ember
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

left swift
#

Ded agrees with them then it must be bad

limber knotBOT
#

Advice on how i should publish on spigotmc? Or is this more of a #paper-dev topic?

olive garden
#

and by the same logic Shaun's video is complete bullshit, since JRoy said it's fine

worn ember
#

think of it what you want i really dont care, just thought it was an interesting video so i shared it

olive garden
#

I assume you know how Spigot's resources section works

limber knotBOT
#

General advice: dos and donts

olive garden
#

Is this a premium resource or a free one?

limber knotBOT
#

free

worn ember
#

don't: make your entire plugin page an image

left swift
#

Just find a popular one and copy the layout and change it for your needs

worn ember
#

cant really make it look good in the first place, so why even try

olive garden
#

if your plugin is on GitHub, then ask users to report bugs there when possible

next frost
#

if your plugin isn't on GitHub, put it on GitHub first

woven otter
limber knotBOT
#

thanks :)

worn ember
#

i have 7k downloads and like 5 github issues lol, and only trig contributed sad open source noises

woven otter
#

I would contribute if you didn't shit on gradle FeelsCryingMan

worn ember
#

i dont shit on gradle, i just cba to use it

olive garden
#

did I contribute apart from when sending TODOs in text files to each other?

worn ember
#

yes

olive garden
#

oh, I tried to unclutter your pom or something

left swift
#

Gradle shitter

olive garden
#

which broke jenkins

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lmao

worn ember
#

you "fixed" the pom but actually broke it

#

ye

quick pasture
#

graddel <3

worn ember
#

its literally the bandwagen shit again, literally all projects were basically maven, suddenly someone decide omg gradle

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and now everyones converting lul

cunning raft
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gradle became a lot more mature over the years

worn ember
#

sure, but its only the last few weeks/month or so that everyone suddenly wants to use gradle

minor badge
#

been using gradle for years

worn ember
#

i'm still not over my forgegradle trauma

minor badge
#

weirdchamp

limber knotBOT
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i use maven because its ez

woven otter
#

switching to gradle has been the best decision

worn ember
#

then you dont fall under "most"

quick pasture
#

everyone their preference ig

cunning raft
#

Paper starts the process every 6 months

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via is converting soon

#

essx converted a few months back

limber knotBOT
#

*soon*

olive garden
#

mini converted, then converted back thonk

cunning raft
#

but other than that

worn ember
#

so yeah mostly the relevant stuff

minor badge
#

paper gradlefication is WIP

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we're waiting for demon to finish moving

woven otter
#

gradle is just objectively better
runs

left swift
#

When will duck be gradle

olive garden
#

for multi-module projects I use gradle, for simple projects I just use Maven
Keep me up-to-date on both tools :)

topaz mortar
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The speed.

worn ember
#

speed means fuck all if it takes 4mins to download dependencies anyway

#

yey shitty internet

quick pasture
#

scanning over a gradle file is just so much better imo

worn ember
quick pasture
#

with one eye u can see everything u want to see

worn ember
#

guess when i do my work 😉

minor badge
#

cache expirations only apply to snapshots

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can also be modified

cunning raft
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snapshots can expire every 5 minutes PEPE

cosmic raft
#

i love postal services

quick pasture
#

did they use carrier pigeons or sth

limber knotBOT
#

I think what im doing is really bad practice but to use minimessage gradients i parse hardcoded strings

#

is there a better way of getting gradients

olive garden
#

as long as you cache the results, that's as good as doing it yourself :)

limber knotBOT
#

so just Component component = MiniMessage.get().parse("<my><magic><component>blah")

olive garden
#

I have never used it, so I don't know

hazy marlin
#

Anyone know why this is happening?
[14:29:06 ERROR]: POI data mismatch: never registered at BlockPosition{x=-9, y=100, z=-3}

tropic flame
#

ew Gradle

fresh talon
#

what channel do I use for random file uploads

vestal jasper
#

None?

cunning raft
fresh talon
#

wack

limber knotBOT
#

google drive

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for random file uploads

woven otter
#

/dev/null

tropic flame
#

anonfiles

limber knotBOT
#

^

left swift
#

Ducks email for random files

limber knotBOT
#

ShareX + google drive = ❤️

woven otter
vestal jasper
#

Cooked duck

left swift
woven otter
#

no duck cooking smh

vestal jasper
#

Duck how would you like to be cooked?

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Grill?

woven otter
#

no

vestal jasper
#

Yes

mental meadow
#

Teppanyaki?

viral hornet
#

Roast Duck

left swift
#

Boiled

woven otter
ashen cliff
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No duck.

woven otter
#

Yes I agree no duck

worn ember
#

duck likes hot grills

left swift
#

Good one ded

olive marlin
minor badge
#

😔

upper flicker
mental meadow
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They couldn't have made a more confusing video

worn ember
#

yeah i dont get it

merry talon
#

Nooooo

worn ember
#

"pitchfork"

vernal moth
#

Do they even still did new stuff?

mental meadow
#

Well

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Not anymore i guess

left swift
#

2021 looking shit already peepoWeirdLeave

worn ember
#

it has from the start

limber knotBOT
#

MIT seems like a good choice

olive garden
#

AGPL FTW

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/s

minor badge
#

AGPL FTW, not /s

vernal moth
#

MIT is the go-to licence for many

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If you wanna embrace openess

pulsar wigeon
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so is ARR, doesn't mean much tbh

limber knotBOT
#

and if you want to actually support open source then (A)GPL is the best choice :P

olive marlin
#

What if Oskar was choosing his future university?

left swift
#

Dont joking in my no-joke papermc 2.0 general chatting please

golden gust
#

I got heavy doubts that he's the type of person to plan far into the future

#

Listen here, no mama, don't make me batman ur ass

left swift
#

😳

olive garden
#

whatever you choose, just don't be bukkit
LGPL CraftBukkit, GPL Bukkit thonk

limber knotBOT
#

wait, that daftpunk video isn't even new?

golden gust
#

22 Feb 2021

olive marlin
#

Well, it's from an hour ago.

minor badge
#

it's not even an hour old mate

limber knotBOT
#

did they really just repost an old video?

golden gust
#
$ date
Mon Feb 22 15:20:11 GMT 2021
limber knotBOT
#

the movie itself is way older

upper flicker
#

the actual video is an excerpt from an old movie they made

golden gust
#

probs

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am like, not grandaddy old

upper flicker
#

they like to do that

golden gust
#

hai phoenix

quasi valley
#

wait I thought cat was like 120

limber knotBOT
left swift
#

Cat is on his 7th life

limber knotBOT
#

no project in the folder

wide chasm
#

Clear the folder out entirely?

worn ember
#

if the folder exists it wont allow you to use it i think

limber knotBOT
worn ember
#

or has contents

limber knotBOT
#

it usually allows me to do this

olive garden
#

using spaces in folder names :(

limber knotBOT
#

NTFS lets me, so why not

worn ember
#

it wont, open the project instead

golden gust
#

many filesystems support spaces

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doesn't mean that they're not known to cause issues with some things

limber knotBOT
#

ill restart intellij first then see if it fixes it

golden gust
#

us devs know to avoid spaces as they break stuff

worn ember
#

clearly thats not the issue here tho

golden gust
#

I mean, it's not, but, like

left swift
#

Just put underscores everywhere in directories

golden gust
#

spaces = literally worse than DED

limber knotBOT
#

cat bullying ded

wide chasm
#

Spaces are fine until you need to use that folder in a terminal

golden gust
#

it's not bullying if it's true

wide chasm
#

That's what the bullies say

left swift
#

Cat didnt get a treat today

golden gust
#

Listen here, stef

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eat poop

wide chasm
#

Piss on a rug cat

olive marlin
#

Linux by default allows any character in folder name other than / and byte 0. It's fun making folder with newlines in it and watching 90% of cli tools break.

limber knotBOT
#

i just go folders/folder\ with\ space/folder and it works

#

in terminal

golden gust
#

Yea, but you're relying on scripts, etc, being designed to work with spaces in the paths

worn ember
#

windows doesnt care about capitals either

golden gust
#

many devs instinctually avoid spaces because it breaks stuff

#

and so, when they write scripts, they don't specifically test against spaces

#

so the cycle ensues

worn ember
#

bad devs

left swift
#

Theres no windows in the capitol?

limber knotBOT
#

restarting intellij fixed it

upper flicker
#

hey cat why doesnt paper work on my pc wtf

golden gust
#

gfdi

limber knotBOT
#

complaining about spaces in folder names?

worn ember
#

is that what you type in ph cat?

wide chasm
#

Creates ticket
Priority: Major

limber knotBOT
#

emoji > spaces

minor badge
#

that is a genuine issue though

upper flicker
#

it is

#

but bigger fish

limber knotBOT
olive marlin
wide chasm
#

Should mark it as security vulnerability, that'll get their attention

worn ember
#

minecraft loading go brrr

waxen panther
#

WTF

left swift
#

Cringe

waxen panther
#

i had no idea such a critical flaw was in paper

olive marlin
#

Brocc PepeHappy

golden gust
#

to be fair, afaik, it's actually a java issue

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java shits itself if you have a ! in the path somewhere

waxen panther
#

Bloodstone PES_SuperHappy

void void
#

which engine is best for minecraft? (may be payable)

waxen panther
#

all im hearing is problems & not solutions

#

wtf is an engine

left swift
#

How do you make java pee itself

void void
#

i mean engine for server

left swift
#

Yatopia

wide chasm
#

Depends on what you need from it

vernal moth
#

What do you mean by engine?

waxen panther
#

someone ban mana

worn ember
#

a v8

waxen panther
#

they mean server software

#

must be another dumb name like core

left swift
#

Lol

vernal moth
#

Why don't they say server software?

wide chasm
#

Different software serves different types of play better

vernal moth
#

Just use paper, smh

waxen panther
#

you're asking in the paper server so........

vernal moth
#

This is paper irc

waxen panther
#

However as a tuinity moderator

worn ember
#

irc? no this is paper discord

#

weebs shouldnt be allowed to be mods pepe_run

upper flicker
#

its all irc

#

it was always irc all along

limber knotBOT
#

When discord gets shut down, irc will still continue strong

waxen panther
#

irc and its 6 users will live on forever !

mental meadow
wide chasm
#

Hey, I'm not a weeb!

vernal moth
#

.stats

#

Mmh

worn ember
#

!stats

limber knotBOT
#

Uptime: 0 days, 10 hours, 13 minutes, 16 seconds
Message Handling: 3ms / 1ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 74160 (5.916%)
Messages from Discord: 1179457 (94.08%)

vernal moth
#

See, not Bad

#

Also mfw 1 Million discord messages in 10 hours

tranquil bone
#

We've finally been able to find a server we want to use for hosting. Now we want to stresstest the network once we purchase it. I wonder if players won't be kicked off the server which happens to SYS/OVH out of experience. Does anyone know who offers stress test services?

vernal moth
#

Spam city

twin lagoon
#

jetbrains projector works surprisingly well

worn ember
#

if you hang the thread it'll time out, no matter what you do

twin lagoon
#

IDE in a browser

limber knotBOT
#

browser ide wtf

mental meadow
#

MsPaintIDE

warm anchor
olive marlin
#

Michale pepeclap

upper flicker
#

it persists them now :^)

upper flicker
#

the uptime is low because I hadnt been using paper to dogfood it

lament patio
#

Sorry, didn't mean the ping

upper flicker
#

fixed that now too :^)

worn ember
#

idc about smooth booth, i care about fast boot 😉

#

it also made me discover a sync load in rtp since the main server thread timed out lul

upper flicker
#

welp guess Im gonna listen to the daft punk discography today then...

worn ember
#

why

vernal moth
upper flicker
#

because they announced they're calling it quits today, and I like their music

vernal moth
#

Or does it somehow turn swing into javascript?

worn ember
#

just change .java to js tbh

upper flicker
#

The idea behind Projector is simple but rather brilliant. It intercepts drawing commands from the IDE (or any Swing application) with a custom drawing engine (AWT implementation) that instead of rendering things on screen, records each command, serializes them and sends them to a web client. The web client interprets those drawing commands and renders them in a web page. The web client records keyboard and mouse input, and sends it back to the IDE via AWT.

#

kinda light on technical details

vernal moth
#

One if the usecases they list is

#

Slow or hot users’ laptops;

wide chasm
#

Their advanced program changes the file extension and then simulates pressing Alt+Enter at every error caused by the rename /s

vernal moth
#

So i feel like they target me

worn ember
#

are you the slow or hot one?

upper flicker
#

I remember those days. When IJ could burn your legs

tranquil bone
worn ember
#

you were talking about players getting kicked by load, so causing the main thread to hang

twin lagoon
worn ember
#

at least thats what i understood from it

vernal moth
#

Yeah i saw now, it's as bit lower in the stack

twin lagoon
#

it works pretty well lol

#

not slow or anything while it's running on a DO VPS

vernal moth
#

Sadly I can't really think of how i can use it for work

#

Since I would need to host it on company hardware

worn ember
vernal moth
#

And all the hardware i have access too is worse than my current vdi

peak ginkgo
#

man

#

i gotta USE MY MOUSE

twin lagoon
#

i've only got two of them

worn ember
#

lmao that second one

upper flicker
#

even if you have a powerful laptop, running IJ remotely on some desktop somewhere will help battery life a ton

#

curious to try it

peak ginkgo
#

hee hee

#

i just noticed

vernal moth
#

My laptop sucks, but i use citrix to run everything on company servers

tranquil bone
vernal moth
#

So ky laptop is basically a thin client now

upper flicker
#

Ive done IJ over RDP before, its pretty sane

#

so I guess if all else fails there's always that

vernal moth
#

Citirx is better than rdp

upper flicker
#

ehhhh

#

depends on the context

#

cisco has a lot of dumb problems

#

citrix rather

#

cisco does too, but not quite what I meant

twin lagoon
#

give it a go, very easy to set up

worn ember
upper flicker
#

thanks ❤️

twin lagoon
#

only caveat with the projector-docker thing is that phpstorm crashes in it

#

intellij ultimate & datagrip worked fine

upper flicker
#

phpstorm? what do you think Im some kind of animal

worn ember
#

wow ok z

upper flicker
#

uninstalls phpstorm

vernal moth
#

Only thing I wish for in citrix is that i could have two windows for two monitors

mental meadow
#

Citrix😭

vernal moth
#

Now i can either have one window as one monitor, or have it use all my monitors, but then I can't access my laptop easily

worn ember
#

buy a second machine

vernal moth
#

I wish I could just use private hardware for company work, lol

#

I would just install a vm on my PC and laught at everybody else

worn ember
#

are you not allowed to do that?

vernal moth
#

No

#

Lol

worn ember
#

do you need to be on a company vpn or something?

vernal moth
#

I touch sensitive data and shit

#

Yes but vpn i could do in a vm

#

But we have hardware encryption at bios level in our laptops, tied into windows somehow

ashen cliff
#

TPM?

worn ember
#

hot

upper flicker
#

"yeah I need a $2000 budget to recreate my home pc for work purposes"

ashen cliff
#

Just 2k?

worn ember
#

i think mini's pc is more than 2k xD

olive marlin
#

Some projects at my work people get 2 laptops - one from external client just as a jump host with VPN, spyware and stuff and second for actual work.

twin lagoon
worn ember
#

mine was already 1.8k and its nowhere near

twin lagoon
#

contains projector aswell but more "refined", more features n shit

#

but paid

mental meadow
#

Pfft sensitive data

twin lagoon
#

remote work could be dope though

vernal moth
twin lagoon
#

well, if it weren't that we were in a pandemic

upper flicker
#

remote work is dope

twin lagoon
#

but ipad pro with a remote IDE would be nice for travelling

left swift
merry talon
#

coder is just one of a million implementations of vscode in a browser

#

since its electron

twin lagoon
#

and projector in a browser combined with reverse proxy & docker stuff

#

but yeah that's the general gist of it

worn ember
minor badge
twin lagoon
#

yes

minor badge
#

and dean works there

upper flicker
#

the problem with IJ on an ipad pro is none of the nice accessories have function keys

twin lagoon
#

yes

upper flicker
#

so you have to bring your own keyboard

minor badge
upper flicker
#

and at that point Im at laptop anyway

worn ember
#

just add a touchbar kappa

twin lagoon
#

perfect for @vernal moth

#

if they can provide it for governments they can provide it for insurance

upper flicker
#

IJ does have some like "hey we tried" support for the touchbar

twin lagoon
#

can be deployed on azure too

upper flicker
#

but you still have to use function keys for anything more complicated than "rename this"

worn ember
#

yeah, i just think its funny how they already ditched it

peak ginkgo
#

I used to use amazons remote ide thing

upper flicker
#

it's still on the 13" m1 pro

peak ginkgo
upper flicker
#

but I look for them to drop it yeah

peak ginkgo
#

You can selfhost this or spin it up on EC2

twin lagoon
#

meh, would rather have vscode in my browser

#

never liked cloud9

peak ginkgo
#

Yeah it's alright

#

This was before vscode had browser support

#

Like, my first year of high school

#

So almost 5 years ago

#

ouch

twin lagoon
#

projector is super dope though, literally a complete remote jetbrains IDE

#

even supports plugins

limber knotBOT
#

but why?

golden gust
#

yea, am like, mixed minds about the touchbar, I mean, am 2 poor to have upgraded yet, but, like, it's one of those interesting but offputting things

peak ginkgo
#

using shit hardware to do things

upper flicker
#

to run IJ on your pos laptop

peak ginkgo
#

@golden gust I've used the touchbar and it fucks with my workflow

#

Escape becomes a software button

limber knotBOT
#

I have a 10 year old laptop that runs IJ just fine lol

twin lagoon
#

touchbar seems fucking stupid

peak ginkgo
#

and you cant exactly tap it with your pinky

upper flicker
#

escape is hardware button on the new ones

#

I havent had any issues with the touchbar escape but it is stupid

peak ginkgo
#

"it is stupid" point proven

upper flicker
#

please just drop it

limber knotBOT
#

(granted that laptop is a T430 👀 )

peak ginkgo
#

I reset my case

golden gust
#

Yea, that's my thing, is that it looks interesting, and honestly, my memory is fucking useless for remembering key combo's anyways, sooo

wide chasm
#

I feel like it'd only really be beneficial for less power consumption; IntelliJ can run on very old devices with relative ease

merry talon
#

why would you use coder over github codespaces?

golden gust
#

reset my case

#

mfw

upper flicker
#

hardware reset his case

peak ginkgo
#

let that sink in

upper flicker
#

that is a super common complaint though

#

just because I havent had any issues with it doesnt mean its not a real thing

#

and yeah, all for just going back to function keys

limber knotBOT
#

actually that one is only 8 years old 👀

twin lagoon
wide chasm
#

My CPU is apparently only 13 years old 🙂

merry talon
#

hm

upper flicker
#

although, when I had that old chunk of shit laptop that would burn my legs when IJ started, or god help me the old android emulator, I didnt really have money to have a server running it somewhere else either

#

oh well, still cool

wide chasm
#

Perfect for a cold winter day 😉

ashen cliff
#

I remember heating up a small room with my old HP. Good times.

wide chasm
#

My PC still heats up my room

#

I start at 18C in the morning and end at 21C

upper flicker
#

cyberpunk sure does... that game runs at 100% gpu whether youre staring at the sky or in a fire fight

ashen cliff
#

I went all the way from 17°C up to 23°C since it was way cheaper than actually running on the heat at that place.

wide chasm
#

lol

peak ginkgo
#

spigot runs better than cyberpunk

upper flicker
#

NMS used to do the same thing

#

wonder if they ever fixed that

ashen cliff
#

Let in, not let out.

spiral robin
#

hi

worn ember
limber knotBOT
#

mfw someone sells eth worth ~2.5 million € and my buy order at half the price get fullfilled

worn ember
#

ez profit ig

limber knotBOT
#

well, I wish I had larger orders lmao

#

I only have a couple hundred bucks worth of coins on the trading platforms, it's more a hobby than actually trying to make money

worn ember
#

fair enough

#

i tried 2 platforms, one just got stuck on the verifying step

#

the other didnt want to take my money

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

limber knotBOT
#

lol

#

well trying to deal with FIAT money is a pita in general. but I just trade cryptos between each other anyways

#

so any platform will work fine without any kind of verification lol

worn ember
#

yeah i dont have any crypto's tho

#

so i need to invest something

limber knotBOT
#

well, yeah, that's not an ideal case lol. most of mine stems from me mining dogecoin when it started lol

#

I personally wouldn't buy right now though, bitcoin just hit a new all time high yesterday

#

granted it's down 8% right now but still way too high imo

worn ember
#

oh yeah i'm not planning on buying btc

#

might buy some doge but i feel its gonna dip again too

limber knotBOT
#

but the fact that tesla/musk already increased the value of their crypto holdings by at least half a billion since the announcement was made is insane

#

it doesn't really matter which crypto you buy, their value is mostly directly bound to bitcoin's

worn ember
#

hes using the memes for ez money

limber knotBOT
#

if bitcoin goes up, so do they

worn ember
#

i think its funny no one use btc for actually buying stuff

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but more as a stock

limber knotBOT
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I do ;)

worn ember
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stocks seem like to be an ez way to make money if you know what you're doing

limber knotBOT
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but yeah, it shifted from beying money to being a commodity a while ago

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oskar: that's an unfortuante name 👀

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wdym

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it's not MineDownMessages

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runs

left swift
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Oskar: mini can I copy your homework?
Mini: yea but dont make it obvious
Oskar:

limber knotBOT
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but yeah, the value of a blockchain doesn't necessarily lay in it's usage for currency storage and transfer. it can do way more

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and ethereum is doing so. I just wish the ETH blockchain stuff wasn't so expensive to use :S

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thoughts on the code though?

twin lagoon
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eth 2.0 PogU

limber knotBOT
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transaction fees are insane, higher than bitcoin lmao

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yeah, I can't wait that they move away from POW

twin lagoon
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eh transaction fees aren't too high for eth

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well no they're high but not as high as bitcoin

limber knotBOT
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I can transfer bitcoins for 50ct

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meanwhile eth wants something like 40$ 👀

spare venture
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Yeah I want Bitcoin to go down so I can buy more

twin lagoon
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the avg fees per transaction for btc is $25/tx

golden gust
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I just use bitcoin for buying stuff

twin lagoon
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er, tx

golden gust
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But, damn is the transaction fees scary

twin lagoon
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eth

limber knotBOT
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that's only if you want it fast

spare venture
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What do you buy with it?

twin lagoon
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i mean you can buy anything with it really

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if you abuse giftcards for example

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lmao

spare venture
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Mhm

limber knotBOT
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twitch accepts it too xD

wide chasm
golden gust
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drugs r' bad, m'kay

upper flicker
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probably boring things

spare venture
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The only things I’ve seen accept Bitcoin directly are like people doing personal deals

twin lagoon
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i've seen various shops accepting it here

limber knotBOT
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but yeah, I never pay more than a couple bucks for bitcoin transactions. sure they take a couple hours but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

spare venture
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I’ve heard of shops accepting it but never seen that

limber knotBOT
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you can buy cars and houses with bitcoin in germany 👀

visual egret
golden gust
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I just buy medication, basically, I might be mentally dead more than half the time, but, at least I can thwart off the headaches \o/

meager tusk
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👋

visual egret
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hi

peak ginkgo
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Bitcoin ATM in Vallejo, California

spare venture
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Usually when people I know IRL start recommending I buy something, that’s how I know it’s about to start going down

wide chasm
visual egret
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thanks

spare venture
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And some of my friends had a long Bitcoin discussion yesterday lol

limber knotBOT
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I recommended people to buy it at 5K

spare venture
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“I don’t know if it’s ever going back down”

limber knotBOT
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my friends didn't buy shit

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lol

peak ginkgo
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Alternatively, write better code and leave it to your own intuition to figure out what it was supposed to be

olive garden
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@void void

  • Readme is very small, it doesn't tell me whether it's a plugin server admins would use or a library plugin devs would use. And it doesn't show how to use it either.
  • config lacks documentation, but you know that
  • code lacks documentation
  • wrong naming conventions are used on static final variables, methods
  • I don't like how you have a class for holding config values, but the values are read in another class
  • in fact, I don't like how there's a ConfigManager and a MiniMessagesConfig
  • I would prefer to see depedency injection instead of all this static, reasons include easier unit test, more readable code (you can follow dependencies, you can see what depends on what)
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and I tagged some random guy, I apologize

visual egret
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I'm not very good at naming conventions so i might struggle with that, but ill try to improve the rest.

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thanks!

olive garden
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basically, for static final fields we usually use ALL_UPPER_CASE

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and your listeners, unlike the rest of the methods, use UpperCamelCase instead of lowerCamelCase

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but apart form those it was good

spare venture
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Wtf @visual egret

visual egret
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clearing out my server list

spare venture
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I see how it is

visual egret
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i left servers i wasnt very active in

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i had like 20 messages on your discord

spare venture
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That’s above average on my discord

ashen cliff
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Yet, you are still in the laptop overclocking Discord.

visual egret
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wat

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wat laptop overclocking discord

spare venture
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Only one way for Krusic to know that..

ashen cliff
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Oh you actually left ProtocolSupport.

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Didn't even notice.

visual egret
ashen cliff
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Just 9 days ago.

minor badge
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when are you leaving here though vibecheck

ashen cliff
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Dyno snitching.

visual egret
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and i came back to discord

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4 days on irc

void void
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Guys can we use paper type server for bedrock edition coz I am new…

left swift
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Oh man

golden gust
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No