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magic river
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...that should be the whole thing

celest terrace
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and of course, it's another FANTASTIC group project

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From what I've heard; a guy that graduated from my program got hired by a company to do javascript. After 1 week employer found out he had never really written any code.

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He said: You have 1 month to learn JS otherwise you're getting fired. He was sent home that same day and one month later he returned knowing js.

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Tomorrow I get my 2 hours lecture on "inheritence" in java. hahahahhaha

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I'm sorry I guess this was my rant as well now 😛

mighty isle
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Henlo

coarse lily
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Good memes go in #memes bad memes go nowhere.

potent fossil
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spacex just lost a booster :o

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thats pretty rare iirc

austere ivy
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is it no longer attached to their ship or did they just somehow misplace a giant (probably) 100-ton chunk of metal

potent fossil
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no they tried to land it and failed

austere ivy
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oh. man, they always seem to be doing some kinda landing or takeoff or something. pretty neat. are they livestreaming it atm?

potent fossil
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the rest of the mission is being livestreamed yes but the launch is over

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and something happened to the first stage on landing and it was not recovered, but no news on that atm

zealous wedge
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rip

untold copper
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good morning uwu

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my ankle sprain is hurting like crazy

austere ivy
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@untold copper good morning but can't believe you don't live in a good time zone such as EST

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in other news, goodnight :)

zealous wedge
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EST is not a good timezone lol

austere ivy
waxen panther
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gmt sad

austere ivy
waxen panther
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woah flooooosh

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thank you popopopopopopopop

austere ivy
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anywho goodnight brocc blobgoodnight

waxen panther
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gngn!

untold copper
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gn brian

golden gust
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internal staff memo: Fuck you sulu

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Oh, wait, sorry, I mean, thank you

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I got their memo confused for mine, sorry

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Oh, he disappeared, dammit

waxen panther
golden gust
magic river
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Moore's Law is about how many transistors you can fit in a given area for a given price

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Saying Moore's Law still works except cost is an issue is saying Moore's Law stopped working

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The complexity for minimum component costs has increased at a rate of roughly a factor of two per year.

coarse lily
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IIRC Moore brought up cost originally but Moore's Law just talks about the doubling of the transistors, not the cost.

magic river
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He later amended it to 18 months

coarse lily
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Every year people come out with articles that are like "IS MOORE'S LAW FINALLY DEAD?"

magic river
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Oh no he didn't someone combined Moore's Law and Dennard scaling to come up with "performance doubles every 18 months"

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Moore's Law died at 14nm

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That was the topic of an entire presentation from nvidia back then

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Or maybe it was 22nm

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I can't remember if it was FinFETs that killed it or the one after that

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Basically at that point so long as nvidia could fit their chip within the reticle limit on the older process it was cheaper on a per-transistor basis to use the older one

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The only reason they moved forward was to because they couldn't grow the chip area any further since iirc 22nm is also when Dennard scaling died

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Well, it was pretty well dead before that too but that was the last big improvement

waxen panther
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moores law will never matter while web devs exist

magic river
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That's Wirth's law

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boo

waxen panther
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lmfao

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looks about right

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gates law PepeLaugh

coarse lily
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Wirth's law is fucking real.

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looks at fucking Discord

magic river
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I wonder if Wirth uses suckless programs

waxen panther
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suckless peepoLove

magic river
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They basically decided modern software was too hard and try to do lean and clean reimplementations of 1970s Unix

waxen panther
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when i finally go full tinfoil hat gentoo mode i'll start using suckless stuff

coarse lily
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Haha gentoo

magic river
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I only know about the project because they've got a hate boner for systemd

meager tusk
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lol

coarse lily
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systemd is jarring.

waxen panther
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my favourite linux conspiracy theorist is a big fan of suckless

coarse lily
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You have a favorite linux conspiracy theorist?

meager tusk
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linux conspiracy theorist what

waxen panther
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you dont?

coarse lily
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You follow more than one linux conspiracy theorist?

waxen panther
meager tusk
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what the hell is one

coarse lily
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Haha "linux is free if you don't value your time"

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That's not entirely untrue.

waxen panther
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the first step is watching his steak cooking guide

coarse lily
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15 minutes!

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On cooking steak?!

waxen panther
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yeah man

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every single step

coarse lily
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I will watch 1:30 of this.

waxen panther
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😔

meager tusk
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this will be the year of the linux desktop.

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I promise you bro.

coarse lily
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He gets steak at Stop and Shop.

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I can no longer take him seriously.

meager tusk
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99% desktop marketshare.

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Cmon chop chop let's make it happen.

coarse lily
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Anyone buying steak at Stoppy is suspect, brocc.

waxen panther
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right here ?

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i have no idea the reputation of that company ocelot :p

coarse lily
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It's a grocery store in Boston, brocc.

golden gust
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systemd-office wen?

coarse lily
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Or I guess New England, probably.

waxen panther
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all my homies use runit

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ah i see

golden gust
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I mean, I wouldn't totally fuck myself over to avoid systemd, but, it's one of the things I meh over modern linux for

coarse lily
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His "let the steak sit" is wrong out of the gate, too.

waxen panther
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i said he's a linux conspiracy theorist not a chef 😭

coarse lily
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Haha

waxen panther
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stop ruining my idol 😭

coarse lily
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Are his conspiracies about linux?

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Or he loves linux and conspiracies?

magic river
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I love systemd

coarse lily
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I don't understand the connection between the two.

waxen panther
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he's just a big fan of privacy and stuff

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i hate systemd it's ugly

magic river
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I mean, I might have issues with the implementation of some parts but the functionality it enables is shit macOS and Solaris have had for decades and made fun of Linux for not having 😛

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systemd is the first init where stop will actually guarantee the service stopped

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Because it actually knows what the service is

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First Linux init, that is

golden gust
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part of my biggest hatrids of systemd is how much it manages

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why is my services manager also a dns resolver?

magic river
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The big feature of systemd is the accurate tracking of service state

waxen panther
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its too big

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just like xorg

magic river
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Once you have that cron, inetd, etc are just minor additions

coarse lily
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brocc I'm going to make you a "how to cook steak" video.

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Some day.

magic river
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The DNS stuff is a separate project under the same umbrella

warm anchor
coarse lily
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Because that one is garbage.

magic river
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It's a separate binary that just shares a name

waxen panther
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ocelot you're talking to a man that buys the cheapest steak cut possible and cooks it in the wrong oil

coarse lily
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What's the "wrong oil"?

waxen panther
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idk what its called

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olive oil or something

magic river
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I think their goal is for systemd to be a standard cross-distro plumbing layer

coarse lily
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Haha

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Extra virgin olive oil is fine for cooking steak.

magic river
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The shit below your services or GUI that most people don't care about but frustrates developers because every distro is a special snowflake

coarse lily
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Everyone got a crazy hard on for "IT HAS A LOW SMOKE POINT" on the internet a few years ago.

waxen panther
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i see

fickle kelp
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Does anyone know a good plugin witch like once every certain time sends a message/broadcast is chat?

warm anchor
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Just cook everting with butter the American way

waxen panther
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literally any autobroadcast plugin ever

fickle kelp
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ok

magic river
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Low smoke point? Wouldn't you want flaxseed oil for that?

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Also sounds like a good way to set off your fire alarm

golden gust
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fire alarm?

waxen panther
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when huel or the other one is cheap in england i'll start having only that PepeLaugh

golden gust
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that's just the "its ready to flip" alarm

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runs

coarse lily
magic river
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Right, that makes more sense

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If you actually cooked with flaxseed oil you'd be seasoning your pan with every meal which means if it isn't cast iron you've ruined your pan 😛

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The high smoke point for cooking is to avoid carcinogens, I think

warm anchor
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I am eating steak and ain’t no cancer can stop me

coarse lily
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But cooking in butter is a pretty common and traditional thing.

magic river
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Sear marks on the steak are also carcinogenic

coarse lily
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And butter has a lower smoke point than evoo.

waxen panther
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the whole cooking/eating part of life is probably my least favourite out of the 3

meager tusk
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paper general in its true form

golden gust
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Yea, carcinogens is one of the big reasons as well as the general sorta like "avoiding the food tasting burnt" thing I think

waxen panther
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and thats saying something because i hate sleeping

coarse lily
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You aren't likely to actually hit the smoke point of evoo

magic river
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The smoke point just has to be higher than your pan's heat

waxen panther
magic river
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Any higher is just dick measuring

coarse lily
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What are the 3 parts, brocc?

meager tusk
waxen panther
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eating/cooking, sleeping and working

warm anchor
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Imagine skip eating

coarse lily
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Where's relaxing in there?

magic river
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I thought maybe there was some trick for extra flavor with a low smoke point or something, was confused

waxen panther
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cant relax

meager tusk
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my daily routine is boring asf

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:(

potent fossil
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but u are idriz af which means cute pepelove

meager tusk
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.

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❤️

waxen panther
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not as cute as simple peepoLove

meager tusk
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Ok

potent fossil
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i disagree but ok

waxen panther
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idriz u never say you love me zzzzzz

magic river
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Listen, there's no need to fight, I'm obviously the cutest one here

meager tusk
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Ok but I love brocc

waxen panther
meager tusk
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and I love simple .

potent fossil
magic river
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Oh god I went to the link in brocc's profile

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Kill me

waxen panther
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which

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OH

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haachama-chama~~~~

potent fossil
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very cute

waxen panther
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@warm anchor

meager tusk
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i used data on that video

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.

waxen panther
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at least it was 3 seconds.

meager tusk
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Balkan internet. 3 seconds too long bro.

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@ashen cliff knows.

warm anchor
meager tusk
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Is that eternity

warm anchor
meager tusk
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eternity ❤️

waxen panther
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lol

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that video is my only inspiration remaining

warm anchor
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Wow all the cute people in chat PepeClap

waxen panther
warm anchor
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@waxen panther inb4 city clicked your link

waxen panther
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city would ban me from incendo instantly

warm anchor
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That’s a pretty good technique ngl looks like a normal site

meager tusk
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It is a normal site.

waxen panther
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i'll make the audio play in the background when i do the weeb version of my site too zzz

meager tusk
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shh

warm anchor
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Yes

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Each click plays “hachama Chama”

waxen panther
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i'll do it like half way down too

warm anchor
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Do it randomly

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But not on first visits. No one will suspect a thing

waxen panther
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i like it

merry talon
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anyone else having weird stutters on youtube lately?

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...oh it only happens when runescape is open

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wtf

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nvm now it's happening regardless

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love it

tropic flame
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what.

zealous wedge
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that's normal for runners

olive garden
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that's some weird sunglasses if bugs get behind it

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but I only run when it's cold, so I guess I wouldn't know

quasi valley
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I don't have extra sports glasses for running either smolEyes

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just, "normal" sunglasses

coarse lily
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I only run when I'm being chased.

cosmic raft
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aaaargh

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I need more workspaces

quasi valley
coarse lily
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Sometimes things chase you, y'know? :)

quasi valley
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I don't, that scares me smolStress

merry talon
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you've never been pursued by a lumbering eldritch horror?

waxen panther
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@quasi valley

quasi valley
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@waxen panther

woven otter
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dum

ashen cliff
woven otter
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@waxen panther no u

visual egret
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sup

quasi valley
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hello oskar

waxen panther
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GOOD MORNING!

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wave wave wave

cedar spade
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Aíkar rap aíkar rap

quasi valley
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calm down a tad please

cedar spade
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no

woven otter
spiral robin
sharp sentinel
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lmao TIL that Americans spell targetted like targeted

cosmic raft
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favourite is favorite

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grey is gray

sharp sentinel
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yeah, I didn't realise the targetted one tho

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Like the others I've come across before - but this one was entirely new to me

digital oak
olive marlin
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Github today removed branch protection feature from legacy plans.
Now I can merge all PRs at work without approval or CI testing xD

untold copper
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DuM aMeRiCaNs :P

waxen panther
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lmao bloodstone

olive marlin
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Good thing I noticed lol
I usually just go through all my PRs - if they can be merged, that means latest code received approval from others and CI so I just blindly merge it.

twin lagoon
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humanity at peak performance

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some anti-corona group sued our government because of the lockdown and they won

celest terrace
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Yes 😄

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I'm very happy about that

twin lagoon
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no

celest terrace
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Curfew has ended

twin lagoon
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it's there for a reason

celest terrace
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So?

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Now it's not 😛

twin lagoon
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ya i mean idk if you want more positive corona tests

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it was going down and now it's just gonna skyrocket back up

celest terrace
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Coronavirus has a FRI of 0.25% or something

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The measures are really getting out of proportion

twin lagoon
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the fuck is FRI

olive marlin
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Michale pepeclap

twin lagoon
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hello bloodstone sweet bb girl

minor badge
olive marlin
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Wtf? Girl?

twin lagoon
olive marlin
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Fuck you pepecry

twin lagoon
golden gust
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@twin lagoon 😼

twin lagoon
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helo

celest terrace
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Michael I meant the IFR and it stands for Infection Fatality Rate.

waxen panther
woven otter
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Wtf weeb invasion

twin lagoon
quick pasture
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not sure how much the curfew positively affects the covid stuff tho

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but ig we'll see after the revertion GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

twin lagoon
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i mean it seems to be decreasing every since it started

quick pasture
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measuring effectiveness is hard in this situation because its not the only thing that changed

limber knotBOT
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broccolai flush

olive marlin
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Proximyst best Rust developer peepoheart

limber knotBOT
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flush ?

olive marlin
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Michale stinks.

twin lagoon
quick pasture
limber knotBOT
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michale dumb

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hate michale ?

olive garden
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no no

celest terrace
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Fatality isn't the only thing I agree but it's quite important nonetheless.

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They've had an entire year to buy more equipment for hospitals and scale up but at least where I'm from they haven't done that.

mental meadow
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Michael uwu

bold iron
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How the "ghost" can cut the buildings without coreprotect or FAWE logs?thonkI doesn't give them permission for /fill also

woven otter
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what? ghost?

mental meadow
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The ghost

bold iron
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idk plugins bug or what

mental meadow
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idk ask in FAWE-help

void void
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Floppa

mental meadow
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Thicc

golden gust
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I'll show you thi... nvm

visual egret
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cat

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dog

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wait

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warzone finally optimised their game

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it isnt laggy anymore

limpid comet
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💩

untold copper
cosmic raft
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gah

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I ask for how I can do something

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and the answer is like...wat

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While it sounds like you want a bevel, scaling a loop cut while inhibiting the Z axis sounds like want you want kashike.

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I know some of these words

worn ember
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I know: while. Sounds like. Loop.

charred turret
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can anyone tell me if this is a good cpu for a mc server? I'm kinda clueless when it comes to server hardware

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CPUmodel: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8171M CPU @ 4.0Ghz(Over Clocked)

olive garden
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CPUs with high single-thead ratings should be good

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but I ain't a sysadmin

charred turret
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mk

topaz mortar
charred turret
twin lagoon
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bad

charred turret
twin lagoon
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it's a platinum processor

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it has 52 threads

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likely poor single threaded performance

left swift
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Platinum is only good when it says ultra extreme platinum edition

charred turret
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oof

twin lagoon
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it's great if you want to sell a million servers on 1 of those cpus though

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if you expect performance from it, no

charred turret
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AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

8 CORES / 16 THREAD

what about this

twin lagoon
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3700x itself is a good cpu

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if you're only getting a portion of it however (vps, shared host etc.), it becomes less of a good cpu

charred turret
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aight

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I'm deciding between two hosting providers and they both have their own different CPUs so

twin lagoon
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which

charred turret
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sky note and this new one called spicky

twin lagoon
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links

charred turret
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which one of those CPUs would you recommend just without knowing anything

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hold on

twin lagoon
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3700x obviously

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it'll be miles ahead of the platinum

charred turret
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the other one only has a disc9rd

twin lagoon
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then the second one is irrelevant

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never use a host without a website

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it's an instant red flag

charred turret
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o

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ok

twin lagoon
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it's extremely unprofessional and 99% of the time they're not an official business

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skynode will be fine

left swift
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Ah yes

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Words

twin lagoon
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honestly i don't expect any host to have a proper website at this point

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they're all garbage

charred turret
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im gonna be hosting a 30 player server with around 30 datapacks and 5 plugins, and probably 15 players will be on at once during peak hours

twin lagoon
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datapacks are garbage

charred turret
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not really

twin lagoon
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they are

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i would highly suggest avoiding them because you'll fuck your server performance with 5 players

left swift
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Their specs page just makes it pop they're just resellers but that's fine I guess gotta start somehow

golden gust
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if they're using command functions, they'll blow ass

twin lagoon
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the amount of people in #paper-help that come crying about their performance every time with datapacks is higher than you'd think

charred turret
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yeah ik

golden gust
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anything a datapack can do, a plugin can do it in like 100th of the work

charred turret
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paper doesnt like datapacks anyway; especially world gen datapacks

charred turret
idle pumice
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Hi I'm looking for a good pluginner for my server

twin lagoon
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no one likes datapacks

quasi valley
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that's more like md pepela

golden gust
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that's more on spigot than paper

twin lagoon
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don't call it a pluginner either you'll look stupid

golden gust
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to fix that we'd need to break the plugin API

left swift
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Isnt there some company in Britian that owns the rights to the word Sky or something

void void
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Its not that paper does not like data packs its that the game does not like them.

quasi valley
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cuz who needs to use new features anyways™️

golden gust
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and breaking plugin api is literally the worse

quasi valley
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u r

charred turret
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dang i just generated a full on war against datapacks

golden gust
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imagine if we broke API which should have been broke years ago

left swift
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That's why microsoft had to change skydrive to onedrive or something like that

golden gust
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the command functions are dumb because they're far more expensive than plugins

charred turret
golden gust
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the world gen stuff is highly experimental and spigot refused to support it because they don't wanna break API over something experimental

twin lagoon
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yes

charred turret
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dang okay

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time to remake my datapack list

olive marlin
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A lot of datapacks can be replaced with plugins.

void void
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50 plugins to 50 datapacks is a 1:1 comparison lol

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ofc plugins would be better

olive marlin
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If datapack only changes loot tables and such, I'd use datapack.

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If it runs commands every tick - never use it.

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If you use VanillaTweaks datapacks, there's a plugin that replaces it.

void void
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I just avoid all of them

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Always a better alternative

charred turret
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aight then

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plugins it is

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thx for your help everyone 😄

olive marlin
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I have some datapacks which bootstrap my server each time we reset and to provide reproducible setup from config.

charred turret
topaz mortar
magic river
olive marlin
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Pattern matching is very nice.

livid wren
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TypeScript crying

winged sleet
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nilered: asking dad if he can make a very dangerous element
his dad: as long as its not a nuclear weapon, ok

hot hamlet
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Anyone know wtf happened here. My game keep crashing recently all of a sudden

limber knotBOT
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check your memory modules

left swift
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Kinda quiet today huh

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Maybe a poki emote will liven the chat

wide chasm
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It's too early, it will get more lively in a couple hours

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Although a poki emote may also do the trick

left swift
ashen cliff
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_Looking left and right, but not up and down. _

left swift
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Krusic already analyzing points of weakness for an attack

prime pawn
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Any of you know what might be causing my screen tearing? It tears with, or without vsync (refresh rate 144hz can oc to 160hz either way, doesn't stop it) otherwise fps hangs around 200. (Using shaders, texture pack, 4k resolution and is windowed) it is doing my damn head in

left swift
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Did you try fullscreen not windowed

prime pawn
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Makes it a little better, but not much. What also seemed to help was changing nvidia's settings to "Let the 3D Application decide" from what it was.

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I feel like it has something to do with nvidia anti antialiasing because it does it more often when certain textures are on the screen (like netherrack)

Note, there's no AA settings enabled within shaders or optifine either.

untold copper
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I sprained my finger today

golden gust
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.onions

cursive osprey
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Guys. Paper 1.16.5 Stable? Stable - tps, lagg's e.t.c

limber knotBOT
golden gust
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remember.

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I mean, it's stable, but, it's still modern MC, so, good luck

cursive osprey
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What do you think about the Server OverSleep? It's so high in timings (Orange-red)

golden gust
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minecraft does stuff between the end of the tick and the next tick

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oversleep means that there is too much going on for your server

cursive osprey
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I have been looking at timings recently, several days. But this anomaly also includes subsequent forks of the core paper

cosmic raft
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@wraith trail Hello there - mind adding me as a friend on Discord?

twin lagoon
hot hamlet
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If getting a dedicated server with 128GB of ram... What am i supposed to use the other 118GB of ram for xd

minor badge
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other stuff?

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you don't gotta use it all anyways

hot hamlet
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Such a waste

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There isnt a configuration with less ram and its already really well priced so

minor badge
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I'm using 23G/64G on mine

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just run whatever you needa run and don't worry about the waste

hot hamlet
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I guess

cosmic raft
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Take future things into consideration too - you might end up needing more in the future

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So if the price is really good...

left swift
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Just offer ur unused ram on downloadfreeram so others can download it /s

hot hamlet
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Ofcourse .Why didnt i think of that

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Or ill use it as a ramdisk for the world data xD

wraith trail
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hello kashike

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sure

ashen cliff
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0 benefit over NVMe in most cases.

olive marlin
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I was considering using additional ram for ram disk for non-critical data like dynmap tiles etc.

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But Linux should cache quite a few things when given spare ram, so I didn't bother.

bright inlet
golden gust
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NVMe is fast enough that the tradeoff for managing a ramdisk is far from worth it

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unless you got a metric fuckton of ram to blow, like, it's pointless

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and, with how fast NVMe is and most IO of concern being off the main thread, 🤷‍♂️

hot hamlet
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Could be using an NVME to sata adapter and calling it an nvme ssd D:

golden gust
#

even with sata, meh

ashen cliff
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NVMe to Sata to IDE to USB.

hot hamlet
#

To SD card adapter

golden gust
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mc doesn't do enough IO for it to be a really pressing issue until you're dealing with a fair chunk of players

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oh god

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no

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don't even, no

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BAD

ashen cliff
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YES!

hot hamlet
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But sd cards are solid state D:

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XDD

ashen cliff
#

The new ones even support NVMe.

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Or what ever they call it.

golden gust
#

Remindsme of the people who run mc on their pi or some usb drive, and then come in here like a year after we tell them it's a bad idea crying about world corruption, etc

ashen cliff
#

Don't judge me!

olive marlin
ashen cliff
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I wanted that PCIe oscilloscope to work.

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:(

olive marlin
#

Me too.

ashen cliff
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Almost bought one years ago, but 600€ for a weak oscilloscope...

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Would still make a good digital logic analyzer, but you can get those for less.

olive marlin
#

I've built a simple oscilloscope years ago, was thinking about making it possible to connect it to PC and control from there, cause it'd be more ergonomic lol

unborn jay
#

Someone managed to summon/spawn a ghast fireball with a huge explosion radius in our free-roam creative server. Core protect luckily managed to rollback the damage... But how. The griefer placed spawners as well, could it be possible that they changed the data of the spawner with something? No logs of new OP, I'm always using latest paper.

dim shadow
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jeebus

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i kno u can use spawn eggs to change spawner... but idk how to make a ghast fireball spawn egg

left swift
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Creative mode is bad

tame lantern
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hacer

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haker

dim shadow
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or a ghast spawn egg with custom explosion radius

unborn jay
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It's actually "impossible" to change spawners with eggs, I made a simple plugin myself that cancels the event of right clicking a spawner with an egg

ashen cliff
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Creative mode is the answer to your question.

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Since in creative mode you can spawn any item.

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Even as spawner with NBT data.

left swift
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People can do whatever they want in creative mode

unborn jay
#

I've heard some paper fixes only work for survival mode, right?

golden gust
#

it's creative mode, you can basically do practically whatever the shit you want in creative mode

tame lantern
#

manually*

unborn jay
#

Maybe i'll need to code a plugin that listens to inventorymove and remove blacklisted items. Could that be an effective solutio?

minor badge
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creative mode is essentially given the right to do whatever the flying fuck it wants to do

golden gust
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I mean, creative mode in general is ass

minor badge
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ideally you'd need to do it on world interactions; that's the only 100% safe way of handling it

golden gust
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You can't even prevent new item creation sanely because creative mode purely just sends packets which are "set this slot to have this nbt"

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there are plugins to restrict stuff but they generally go about it in a way which ain't nice, but, it's either that or they gotta define the entire structure of allowed NBT, which is cray and leaves holes open

unborn jay
golden gust
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and, yea, mob spawners literally store the entire mob they're gonna spawn

dim shadow
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dam i didnt think creative mode was so explotable

unborn jay
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Also I think plugman is a death sentence

twin lagoon
cunning raft
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fuck that sucks

#

lastpass was nice

twin lagoon
#

i never liked it tbh

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especially after logmein bought it

peak ginkgo
#

Bitwarden pog

twin lagoon
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the pricing change was to be expected

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they were fucking with pricing a while ago with some a/b tests

golden gust
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it was nice, but, bitwarden just sorta looked more attractive eventually and even ended up paying for it for a year iirc

cunning raft
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bitwarden has 2fa beyond a pay gate

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wtf

golden gust
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LP defo deals with some stuff better

twin lagoon
#

no

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totp is free

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it's only u2f

cunning raft
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ah okay

golden gust
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but, like, defo not regretting dropping LP

twin lagoon
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which the majority won't be using anyways tbh

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also not to forget, premium is $10/yr and you can self-host bitwarden

cunning raft
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oh that's a year

twin lagoon
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i think it's more than fine to lock those options behind a paywall

cunning raft
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oh lastpass is only $20 a year

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hmm

twin lagoon
#

lkooks like they've atleast made it cheaper

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eitherway, would still use bitwarden

cunning raft
#

do they do anything better?

twin lagoon
#

i prefer their UI & browser extension

golden gust
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I mean

twin lagoon
#

and well, opensource

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lol

golden gust
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they're not ran by a sketchy af company

twin lagoon
#

and that

cunning raft
#

how is mobile support?

twin lagoon
#

good app

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on android atleast

#

it does autofill without any issues for me

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has biometric auth too

wide chasm
#

Just switch from LastPass today to Bitwarden after that announcement

cunning raft
#

lastpass is lagging like hell today too

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must be a lot of people switching

cosmic raft
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1Password is great

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I always recommend it

olive marlin
#

Hmm, KeePass works great for me, but looks like bitwarden has way better cli tool, so I might switch.

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One downside is that I'll probably have to stick with KeePass for work database 😞

peak ginkgo
twin lagoon
dim shadow
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lol i thought i had a good password system, xy where x is the same base and y is website identifier

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but if 2 pws get leaked u can tell how i make up the identifiers ;-;

twin lagoon
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yeah i mean you just described your password system too which is bad

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use a password manager & randomize your passwords

cosmic raft
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All mine are randomly generated

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for example, one that I just generated for this example:

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$}:[c0J*o]uY++*yOy]COY5dy:6Q-!mN~qosOF>CI&X$C?1kPO8Ng9~;{;bl{]+u

dim shadow
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aint like yall gonna hack one of ur own ❤️ so its ok

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but yeah pw manager seems to be consensus lol

quasi valley
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I use 1password (with every password being random as well)

minor badge
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I remember some 5 passwords; 3 for logging into devices, and 2 for password managers :p

twin lagoon
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kneny pleadingCry

minor badge
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very handy and they're all mostly secure. though there's still the single point of weakness being me, but i mean, that's fine in comparison to all of them being the same lol

ashen cliff
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You people use passwords?

dim shadow
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i mean i do have a notebook written in a custom script... maybe ill just use that for passwords since aint no1 but me can read that script

fallen oracle
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Wonder if enough people will switch that they will realize they made a mistake.

twin lagoon
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goddammit just use a password manager

cosmic raft
dim shadow
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ok lol pw manager it is

minor badge
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I'd like to move to U2F for logging in on my accounts & password managers

cosmic raft
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bios, disk encryption, account password, 1password, google

minor badge
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therefore only needing to remember 2 cause of disk encryption

dim shadow
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are my pws safe if pw manager gets hacked or nah?

minor badge
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potentially

golden gust
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no

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I mean, depends

dim shadow
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fack

minor badge
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if you use a good one, for the most part

twin lagoon
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if you're paranoid about your pw manager being hacked use keepass

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there's always some trust involved

golden gust
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if YOUR password manager gets hacked and they get the decrypted passwords, you're fucked

dim shadow
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no i mean like the company

golden gust
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assuming they hack a proper sane password manager service, like, the chance of them decrptying stuff is basically 0

minor badge
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they should store it encrypted

dim shadow
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if i get hacked personally by software then im fuckd eithr way

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ohhhh ok

minor badge
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which should require your master password and/or U2F and/or TOTP to decrypt

dim shadow
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so only if they bring a quantum computer then?

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i hoped itd be like that lol that explains how yall dont be paranoid about it

olive marlin
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I'm using KeePassXC which gives you local database (there's no servers involved), then I have backups of my PC which include the database and use Syncthing for synchronizing the database between devices when they are in the same network.
So only way to loose it is to get to my PC while it's unlocked, cause unlocking it requires both password and Yubikey.

left swift
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You don't have to worry about getting ur password leaked if you just make it public first anyways so

minor badge
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the GNU/pass way

left swift
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Jokes on you guys

wide chasm
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"The following passwords are licensed CC0" /s

dim shadow
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so keepass for local and 1password for server

left swift
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Just make ur password the date you made the account ez

dim shadow
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its a question of who's most likely to get hacked... me or them

peak ginkgo
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In the grand scheme of things

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You're less important

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So them

dim shadow
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@left swift u know what ur right, im just gonna free myself. my password is ******

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damn it doesnt work

left swift
dim shadow
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ima have 2 deliberate on this

left swift
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Just dont get viruses

dim shadow
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yea man thats the plan

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if i still get a virus after all these dam measures then im quitting computing

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nah who am i kidding, probs just the internet

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going thru iterations in my head i found the one where i put all my passwords in the database and then lose the database

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i felt his pain for a second

stable silo
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Hello :)

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May I send an IP in this Server? And if true, where? :]

cunning raft
#

no

minor badge
#

no

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this is not a server list

golden gust
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this is not the place to advertise

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by the rules

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and by the concept that this is literally a place full of server owners and devs.

stable silo
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Ok.

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:)

visual egret
cunning raft
#

use fabulous graphics mode

dim shadow
#

when will mojan fix anything

cunning raft
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its not broken

runic shale
#

How do u get those costume roles on papermc?

ashen cliff
#

Ask for them. kekwhyper

dim shadow
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costume roles ._.

vernal moth
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There are no customer roles here outside of bulling of regulars

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And you don't get them, their are a bane on yourself

dim shadow
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digger how do u have a consumer role then

vernal moth
#

I am pretty happy to have been freed from all of them 😂

dim shadow
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green consoumer

left swift
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Green constipation

dim shadow
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o god pls no

worn ember
#

https://youtu.be/MFzDaBzBlL0 well this was very interesting

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dim shadow
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bruh thats awesome LOL

cosmic raft
#

.halp

dim shadow
#

kinda like that guy that walked around with a upside down vr headset for days lol then took it off n everythin was upside down

spare venture
worn ember
peak ginkgo
twin lagoon
modest path
#

i outdated2 outdated3 your mum

twin lagoon
#

ok

olive marlin
#

My OS is fucked. Can't SIGKILL a process xD

golden gust
#

ZOMBIE PROCESS?!

olive marlin
#

Systemd keeps trying to shutdown the system for quite a few good minutes now, keeps trying to SIGKILL processes after they timeout and then reports they are still alive.

magic river
#

bitwarden paid accounts aren't really needed, the main features are things you probably shouldn't be doing anyway like sharing credentials with other people or using it for TOTP 2FA

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(I definitely use it for TOTP)

olive marlin
#

TOTP in DB is not the most secure thing, but it's quite nice.

#

I'm restarting cause it wouldn't let me start or stop any process.

magic river
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If every process goes zombie I think your disk might be in trouble

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Or you're running everything from NFS

olive marlin
#

15 months old NVME. I believe I checked its health like 2 weeks ago or so and everything was fine.

#

Hmm, I wonder if my crash 2 weeks ago wasn't because of RAM but due to disk failure.

ashen cliff
#

Might have the epic Kingston SMART reporting.

olive marlin
#

Smartctl doesn't report any errors.

ashen cliff
#

It's always 100%, everything remapped 10 times over.

golden gust
#

tbqh, SSDs are weird

#

Like, I bet anybody who's dealt with SSDs for a loooong time has had an SSD which just rando disappeared one night

ashen cliff
#

Intel SSDs are even more fun.

olive marlin
#

I have Intel SSD >.>

ashen cliff
#

Write locked, READ ONLY, just buy a new one. kekwhyper

golden gust
#

and, SMART is also generally sketchy af as to how useful it is

dim shadow
#

disappearing disks ;__; wut

worn ember
#

Yes being smart is sketchy

golden gust
#

I've had SSDs disappear into the system is rebooted

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Like, I had a dedi which had been having some weird as all shit issues

dim shadow
#

dam

olive marlin
#

I'm starting to regret buying parts for ITX PC. I only have 1 slot of NVME in it, would have gone RAID1 on it otherwise.

golden gust
#

like, rando 80 sysload, i rebooted it and it booted into OVH recovery mode and a disk was missing

ashen cliff
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Raid 1 with a random Sata SSD. kekwhyper

dim shadow
#

sounds like some1 at ovh needed a spare ssd

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and like just used urs :I

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jk thatd b awful

golden gust
#

I mean, we rebooted and it showed back up again

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was... interesting...

ashen cliff
#

Maybe they put it back?

golden gust
#

#DownloadedAllMyDataFastAF

ashen cliff
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And you didn't have hotswap enabled.

dim shadow
#

or maybe they somehow tripped on ur ssd cable

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then plugged it back up

magic river
#

Backups? No no, I want to go forwards

spare venture
#

so apparently setting my laptop to use the dedicated GPU for everything causes my laptop to overheat and go really slow

dim shadow
#

metal or plastiq case?

spare venture
#

but reverting to default where it "manages" the GPU used, it runs much better, even though it's just forcing everything onto the intel GPU

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metal

magic river
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So you have a dedicated GPU you can't actually use

spare venture
#

pretty much

dim shadow
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put thermel paste b/w gpu and case

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if u can

spare venture
#

somehow the intel on board GPU performs better

dim shadow
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itll burn ur lap but better for system

spare venture
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than a gtx 960m

ashen cliff
#

Daily reminder: NoVidea Optimus sucks.

golden gust
#

laptop cooling is generally sketch

knotty rose
#

my laptop has a gt 820m and it definetly works better than the igpu

golden gust
#

like, many laptops have inadequete cooling to run the thing full pelt

ashen cliff
golden gust
#

also, people neeever clean laptop fans

spare venture
#

it runs cooler and everything just works better when i let it manage itself

golden gust
#

and then do stupid shit like placing it on a bed or have it on their lap blocking all the vents

knotty rose
visual egret
#

ok, finished editing autoexec.cfg, time to go into task manager and end some processes and then ill finally be able to play half life alyx at more than 10 fps

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ez

golden gust
#

o.O

magic river
#

On my desktop when I turned on the intel GPU so I could run my monitors and my VR the result was all of my apps were always on the intel GPU

magic river
#

There was no way to default to the 1070, I had to manually add an exception for each executable

visual egret
#

does closing shadowplay help?

spare venture
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fun fact the laptop is designed so that the gtx 960m cannot run the desktop window

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only the intel gpu can

golden gust
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the desktop window?

spare venture
#

i mean the desktop interface

golden gust
#

you mean like, window compositioning?

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yea, that's expected i'd imagine

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it's basically part of how offloading works afaik

spare venture
#

so it'd be impossible to just force everything onto the dedicated gpu

golden gust
#

you also don't want a high end GPU to be supping power to move a window around

knotty rose
spare venture
#

well, i'm always plugged in, so 🤷

golden gust
#

I mean, you gotta consider stuff like the thermals

knotty rose
#

and making an exception to use the dedigpu on java just to use it on mc is painful

olive marlin
#

I really need to work on monitoring. My laptop wasn't backed up for a week now...

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golden gust
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as I said, laptops are generally not well designed to deal with the thermals these days

spare venture
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mhm

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im just surprised it runs better on the igpu

visual egret
#

speaking of laptops, im thinking of getting a macbook pro or one of system76's laptops when i save up enough money

knotty rose
spare venture
#

i7 6700hq

knotty rose
#

ah well, then it makes sense, iirc the h meant high performance igpu

spare venture
#

interesting

knotty rose
#

wait it actually doesnt

spare venture
#

okay

knotty rose
#

seems that affects the igpu too

visual egret
#

ok ez task manager done
now we see if steamvr loses connection to oculus driver when i try to load into alyx

magic river
#

There is no chance in hell a skylake era design has a GPU that can beat a 980m

spare venture
#

its a 960m

magic river
#

Still

knotty rose
#

yeah but it's a 960 still

golden gust
#

after it thermal throttles a little

knotty rose
#

960's were still used on desktop builds a little ago

spare venture
#

960m is different from a 960

knotty rose
#

actually more 980, but the gen is the same

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well, idk, my 820M is way better than my hd graphics 5500

magic river
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userbenchmarks is trash but it shows the 960m should be 2-3x faster

void void
twin lagoon
#

apple is ok nowadays with the m1 chip

void void
#

I’ve never like Apples engineering

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Cooling is always ass

minor badge
cunning raft
#

apple's cooling was ass this whole time just to make the m1 chips look better

knotty rose
ashen cliff
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U chips are also ok, if you lift the TDP.

minor badge
#

I run an i7-9750H daily at work, it's doing some really good heavy-lifting :p

ashen cliff
#

I wonder what the TDP-UP is set to.

hazy marlin
#

Can I change paper texture to look like a block in the inventory using resource packs?

minor badge
#

probably?

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@twin lagoon

twin lagoon
#

probably

spiral robin
#

probably

modest path
#

doxxed? outdated1 outdated3

spiral robin
#

what

zealous wedge
#

kids being kids

hazy marlin
#

How would I do it then?

zealous wedge
#

idk aren't there actual resource pack discord?

spiral robin
#

zml aPES_Cuddle

zealous wedge
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I know there's a MC commands discord

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hi aber!

formal turret
#

fantom, take a look at the model file for a block and that should give you the information you need

visual egret
#

i just played an hour of hl:alyx, its literally a horror game

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spoiler: ||when the big thing explodes, that scared the shit out of me||

meager tusk
#

Ok oskar

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Don't be scared next time I guess

spiral robin
#

@meager tusk @waxen panther

minor badge
#

@zealous wedge Kotowave

zealous wedge
#

awa

waxen panther
minor badge
#

wave

olive marlin
#

Proxi new avatar?

minor badge
waxen panther
#

chika stabbing moment avatar

idle pumice
#

Hi, do you know any methods to optimize minecraft servers?

twin lagoon
#

.optimize

limber knotBOT
idle pumice
#

do i have to click on both links?

visual egret
#

🤦

mossy vessel
#

No, wait until they magically stream the information into your brain-cloud

idle pumice
#

Beautiful English irony

#

What is WorldBorder?

visual egret
#

its an old chunk pregen plugin

#

instead of worldborder, use chunky

dim shadow
#

how much better is chunky? ive always used wb but i heard dev was liek bye guys

worn ember
#

Wouldn't call it that much better

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Similar methods are used

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It does its job well

lean kiln
#

I mean chunky is faster

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nothing wrong with wb tho

waxen panther
#

pop 😳

vestal jasper
#

ppopcatp

waxen panther
#

vic wave wave wave

spare venture
#

chunky is much better

idle pumice
visual egret
#

dont use any lag removers

tropic flame
#

PC Optimizer Pro

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jk don't

visual egret
#

they are all usless

idle pumice
#

mhh oke

idle pumice
ripe sphinx
limber knotBOT
#

using online password managers 😅

visual egret
#

just make your own, then you cant be screwed over

#

ez

zealous wedge
#

Phoenix has a paper notebook of passwords confirmed

tropic flame
#

works like a charm

limber knotBOT
#

I mean, if anything they are encrypted with a master password :P

#

but yeah, I use keepass too lol

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(but with syncthing)

cunning raft
tropic flame
#

then on android i use KeePass2Android which also supports syncing from OneDrive

zealous wedge
#

of course you use syncthing

tropic flame
#

so it's beautiful

zealous wedge
#

does ST support fetching files on-demand yet?

limber knotBOT
#

I think there is a fork/custom implementation that does that

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at least I know there is an android app that does that

cursive cosmos
#

Hello ! What do you think of the fork "airplane" ?

limber knotBOT
#

probably gonna crash, planes tend to do that

#

runs

cunning raft
cursive cosmos
#

ahaha

cunning raft
#

generally seems """"fine""""

cursive cosmos
#

hope it's not a boeing

cunning raft
#

would just stick to tuinity tho

cursive cosmos
#

ok what do you mean by """""fine""""

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okok

#

what's the difference with tuinity ?

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(I run paper on a 80 players server and I see the limits)

cunning raft
#

airplane's patches don't look totally catastrophic

#

Tuinity is probably enough anyways

cursive cosmos
#

And does it change game mechanics ?

cunning raft
#

urm not any more than paper does

cursive cosmos
#

ok it's awesome

#

why paper don't apply the tuinity patches then ?

ripe sphinx
#

From what I've heard elsewhere, Airplane is pretty decent, but that's just hearsay

cunning raft
#

it seems fine but i also just trust leaf more to not fuck up stuff

#

i don't know the airplane guy

cursive cosmos
#

Ok, so tuinity is more reliable ?

cunning raft
#

probably

limber knotBOT
#

s/tuinity/paper

#

Correction, <DiscordBot> <07j​lb​r> Ok, so paper is more reliable ?

cunning raft
#

thank you pheonix

cursive cosmos
#

what

cunning raft
#

ignore him

cursive cosmos
#

what is that

#

i'm new on this discord

limber knotBOT
#

people tend to not want to accept truth

cunning raft
#

its the irc bridge

#

anyone with the bot tag is generally someone on irc

#

aka a senile boomer

cursive cosmos
#

ok lol

limber knotBOT
#

fuck of, mate

cursive cosmos
#

where can I find the truinity jar ?

limber knotBOT
#

this is the paper discord

#

you are asking the wrong people

cunning raft
limber knotBOT
#

advertising 👀

cunning raft
#

ban 79 people

limber knotBOT
#

<+DiscordBot> <J​Ro​y> aka a senile boomer

#

:(

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yes, they should

#

runs

#

ban that Origami guy too :P

vernal moth
#

.ban phoenix616

cunning raft
limber knotBOT
#

👀

vernal moth
#

Kek, didn't think irc would remove the \

#

Thank God the bot doesn't have perms 😂

limber knotBOT
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"someone" should write a bot to just auto-PR the patches of all those paper forks ;D

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

cunning raft
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it's call yatopia and it shows why that's a bad idea

limber knotBOT
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PR != it getting accepted

vernal moth
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Because paper PRs get processed so fast :/

limber knotBOT
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the main issue is that there might actually be good and quick fixes in some of those forks... but nobody is going to go around looking at them and trying to convince the authors to PR it themselves

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so if "someone" would just go and "steal" them 👀

vernal moth
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Ppl sometimes do that

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Pretty sure i merged PRs from jroy that do that for example

ripe sphinx
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yeah lowkey curious why more tunity patches don't work their way back upstream lol

cunning raft
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wat

vestal jasper
cunning raft
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i don't take other people's patches

vernal moth
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It's just that we really need to tackle the PR queue :/

vernal moth
olive marlin
limber knotBOT
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just leave them all open for a couple years 👀

vestal jasper
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just let stale bot take care of them all /s

grand pewter
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stale bot can't win if we fight back

vernal moth
cunning raft
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also the problem with stealing a bunch of patches is also maintenance burden. Stealing starlight would be a bad idea for example because leaf is prob the only one who can update that the fastest

vestal jasper
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Ah yes, set the stale bot threshhold to like 1 day and watch everyone struggle to keep everything open

vernal moth
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Ontop the massive amount of patches we have anyways

cunning raft
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yeah stuff like that is fine prob

vernal moth
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50 minor patches more don't make it much worse

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Altho the amount of patches is getting insane and I can't wait to get rid of most of them once we hard fork and restructure the project

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Hangar is still happy for contributions btw ^^

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Currently it's easier than ever before

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It's mostly machine and me rn, altho I am not able to spend nearly as much time as he does

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Tomorrow I'll continue tho

limber knotBOT
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I would if it wasn't web stuff :P

vernal moth
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Modern webstuff isn't that bad

limber knotBOT
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well... but my web stuff tends to be just hacked together until it somewhat works xD

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I don't really want others using that code lol

modest path
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gonna become baloon tbh

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like right fucking now

limber knotBOT
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(I guess it doesn't help that most of what I did was php stuff lol)

worn ember
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bananalama

topaz spruce
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where can I ask for support?

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nvm

vernal moth
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Well, currently i am mostly just doing layout, aka playing lego with components

supple briar
vernal moth
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Just hire a designer

mossy vessel
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Fiverr

cunning raft
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ok

olive marlin
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If someone knows how to debug Java process (probably need stack trace) on Windows, help in #paper-help would be appreciated. Haven't touched Windows in years so I can't really help well :/

peak dirge
ashen cliff
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Also true: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

worn ember
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people that do that trigger me

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or those that just put a scarf around their mouths

vernal moth
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That's banned here

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Only medical masks

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Either the normal ones or the reusable ones

worn ember
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yeah idk the rules about it here, but i think its not allowed either

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most annoying thing about masks is that they fog up my glasses lol

vernal moth
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Doesn't happen if you pull it up pretty far

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At least for me

wide chasm
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Don't need to wear masks when you stay inside forever taps head

warm anchor
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Social distancing!? Been doing it since years ago KEK

warm anchor
vernal moth
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Better than nothing is a good summary

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Was pretty cool overall but nothing compared to what I did last year

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Just the fact that you can't meet new ppl

potent fossil
warm anchor
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Simple is confused lol

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I was at first lol

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Drive in party!

visual egret
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finally

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i finished hl:alyx

warm anchor
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Wow Oskar can afford vr

visual egret
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best game on earth

warm anchor
visual egret
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i cant wait for hl3 now

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as if hl2 ep2 wasnt enough of a cliffhanger

warm anchor
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Imagine calling other game as best game in a Minecraft discord

visual egret
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minecraft discord?

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this is papermc 2.0

visual egret