i had to spend the last scenes where you had a gun at like 20-30fps
#general
waxen panther
potent fossil
playing VR at low and still variable frame rate
how did you err
not throw up?
or did you
limber knotBOT
144hz VR is so awesome
potent fossil
i mean, VR on a low framerate is just nausea inducing. but adding the fact that it's not a stable low framerate just makes it worse
im not sure it's possible to play that sustained without actually losing your lunch
ashen cliff
Some people don't suffer for motion sickness as much.
limber knotBOT
I wish I was part of that group
worn ember
@warm anchor bruh i'm losing all my games lol also doesnt help i get matched with people who are on a lose streak as well xD
https://youtu.be/vsTTXYxydOE this is sick
spare venture
guis suck
worn ember
thats why you use IF
short yarrow
So I want to write extensible and maintainable code. Are there any helpful tips for that? Is it just planning as far ahead as you can? For new features it feels like refactoring is inevitable
tired heath
Anybody ever used "Jobs Reborn", has a lot of bad reviews atM, but only since some months? I finally need a good and idiot save system so players can earn ingame money. So I can go live finally 😛
worn ember
So I want to write extensible and maintainable code. Are there any helpful tips ...
planning, experience, iteration
i'm sure there are a few courses on design patterns
spiral robin
planning, experience, iteration
To add on top of this, be prepared to rewrite your shit all the time. When I started even when I took 1 week off a project, when I got back I was disgusted
worn ember
To add on top of this, be prepared to rewrite your shit all the time. When I sta...
me with rtp
im still disgusted, but i honestly cba to rewrite it again xD
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> bruh i'm losing all my games lol also doesnt help i get m...
Forced 50 is real
worn ember
back to archon 3
people keep banning literally every hero i play so i end up being useless xD
limber knotBOT
20 tps are 20 tps ¯_(ツ)_/¯
spare venture
you ever make something and are not sure how it worked but it worked
potent fossil
tuinity is made for higher player counts so... works..as expected?
spare venture
no way simple
potent fossil
spiral robin
merry cave
https://youtu.be/vsTTXYxydOE this is sick
I watched this on the way home... so cool
worn ember
yeah
hidden lance
Guess who's back
I did not take the pic but I got it to work and this is engine 2 =/
I got xray to test it out dont kill me oh no oh nooo.
cunning raft
ok
cunning raft
anti-xray doesn't support the nether in the first place
so idk what you're trying to prove
warm anchor
it's working... idk what you mean... or that screenshot is fake
warm anchor
are you sure that amount of netherite is normal?
hidden lance
ITS THE ANTIXRAY DOING THE THING opps caps
potent fossil
wdym, it's working exactly as expected, engine mode 2's entire purpose is to (visually) spam ores everywhere so that xrayers cant know what is a role ore and what is not
and a full caps message with "oops caps" at the end is so stupid i can't even comment on that
hidden lance
Yes ik but that compared to overworld
hidden lance
and a full caps message with "oops caps" at the end is so stupid i can't even co...
Thats why I did it
wraith trail
That's just because of how its rendered.
potent fossil
There are not as many ores in the nether as there are in the nether? What is your point?
cunning raft
anti-xray doesn't work in nether like it does in overworld
wraith trail
If you were to use a proper xray mod, it would display many more.
warm anchor
He pings me in paper help just so I can read it 
cunning raft
swore stonar said it doesn't
wraith trail
it works fine?
warm anchor
There's more opening in nether
hidden lance
Ok sorry well I shall go its 2am where I am im tired af stop making fun of me but the caps thing was joke lmao
wraith trail
k
warm anchor
Well there is a time and place for joke
hidden lance
Peace
potent fossil
bye
keen aspen
intellij idea or visual studio
wraith trail
visual basic?
ripe sphinx
if you're doing java, 
, no question
worn ember
C# stuff is usually VS
But there's also Rider for that
You can load whatever in which ever of you want
short yarrow
Is there really any benefit in using SLF4J? I believe SLF4J is just an interface and will allow you to easily change the backing logger if you so choose. I don't think people really change the logger they use though
ripe sphinx
it mainly matters for APIs
worn ember
Impl can use whatever they want tbh
visual egret
not throw up?
I get 0 VR motion sickness, and when I do, it’s only in extended playsessions, however I often get off because it’s just... painful to play at low FPS
so if my games weren’t annoying to play I would probably get more motion sick
pearl mauve
Hello world
cosmic raft
hi
spiral robin
Name a unique snack which I can purchase here
potent fossil
I read that as "unique stack" and was very confused
waxen panther
wave
proper violet
Name a unique snack which I can purchase here
Eat popcorn with mustard, ketchup and mayonnaise
potent fossil
excuse me
proper violet
Is delicious
zealous wedge
since when does anything Loblaws have anything unique
spiral robin
it's fine zml
spiral robin
He must be thinking hard
zealous wedge
actually PC coconut milk ice cream is quite nice
spiral robin
wtf that sounds kinda good
proper violet
actually PC coconut milk ice cream is quite nice
Should I try it?
zealous wedge
it's also cheaper than some of the fancier options
zealous wedge
hi simpleee
potent fossil
spiral robin
potent fossil
cute heart eyes uwu
waxen panther
wave
spiral robin
left swift
merry talon
I don't really get motion sickness but my eyes start to burn pretty bad
wide pond
ripe sphinx
OVH outage for a week sounds like BS. Very skeptical
warm anchor
Same. I use OVH and 1 month outage sounds unreal
I love how he still continue to pay after those issues
spiral robin
warm anchor
aber 
mental meadow
Eternity
spiral robin
Aueorura 
keen aspen
should i allocate more memory?
i have 8gb on my computer and 4gb dedicated to minecraft through the jvm argument
spiral robin
@keen aspen
limber knotBOT
hi aber!
keen aspen
Makes sense
Thanks for the ping
Since im using 80% of the allocated
I should have enough, right?
magic river
At the time that screenshot was taken the JVM hadn't even tried to use all of the memory you allowed for it so yeah, should be enough
shy arrow
anyone know if i delete a region if it respawns smthn else or?
i have corrupted chunks on my server and if i delete the file containing those chunks would that destroy the world or nuh
golden gust
world gen is determinate, structures may change, but, the general looks will generally be the same if regen'd on the same version it was gen'd on
across versions it's generally iffy
shy arrow
im using 1.16.5 paper
using Chunky in attempt to load out the world or whatever but it keeps finding a corrupted chunk lol
golden gust
nothing to do with paper, it's 100% on vanilla
shy arrow
ah fair
golden gust
vanilla chunk gen is determinate
but, there are subtle changes as the games gotten older, so, it might look similar, it might have different biomes or some features or whatever
it's pretty much 100% down to the algo that mojang users and how well it plays for that area, if you originally generated on 1.16.5, it should be practically spot on bar things like trees, etc
undone crest
is there a way to take away specific item from an offline player in my own server?
olive marlin
Usually you can schedule the item deletion to happen when they join.
But you can also manually edit their playerdata @undone crest
Use something like NBTexplorer, open their file from playerdata/ folder (to figure which one, either retrieve UUID from some site or look in logs when they join).
olive marlin
But webnbt means I need to download the file, upload it to the site, download modified and upload to server.
Can't just edit files live in prod directly :P
olive marlin
Don't want nodejs anywhere close to my server :P
next frost
there is a rust tool for nbt
olive marlin
Well, NBTexplorer works most of the time (though I doesn't support proprietary UTF-8 encoding Minecraft uses).
And I haven't really had the need to find a better tool, I rarely touch nbt.
golden gust
they literally just use javas writeString method?
olive marlin
They use different encoding, a lot of different tools (python NBT package, NBTexplorer etc) just crash on encountering it.
undone crest
What is the difference of *.dat and *.dat_old
olive marlin
I have live patching in some of my old python tools.
golden gust
erm, one of them is old?
Yea, java DataOutputStream
maybe different encoding vs what python does, but, it's not like mojang went out of their way for it
undone crest
is it ok to delete .dat_old because I modified *.dat using NBTExplorer
golden gust
yes, I mean, it's a backup which won't be used unless the dat file corrupts
olive marlin
https://github.com/Prof-Bloodstone/Minecraft_scoreboard_exporter/commit/6eb6dedd67d6463442f1a7c1af3a9c9f4c110dc8
The NBT spec mentions it's UTF-8, but it's Java UTF-8.
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/io/DataInput.html#modified-utf-8
golden gust
ah
olive marlin
NBTexplorer thankfully fails only when opening node which contains such string, so you can use it without opening the item.
golden gust
well, I mean, it was kinda a given given that it's just using java, it's entire OS though
I literally just yonked something out of there for a patch i miiiiight push to paper
olive marlin
Yeah. Kinda weird move for Java to decide they'll modify UTF-8 and become incompatible with any other UTF-8 implementation.
Thang God that in Python I can replace a function so easily. Idk how I'd patch that in any other language, without forking the library.
.download
limber knotBOT
potent fossil
<@&748618676189528155> name
vernal moth
Kek, headlines here: firefighters struggling to put out exploded VW hybrid. But they don't struggle because it's a hybrid, but because the water always turned to ice because it's freezing -16 degrees
wide chasm
?ban @warm meadow Racist name
leaden oxideBOT
TurkNigga#0281 was banned | Racist name
spiral robin
@potent fossil @twin lagoon 
twin lagoon
potent fossil
olive marlin
Github took down endgame, and everyone is now pushing their forks xD
potent fossil
endgame?
meager holly
hey bros
potent fossil
lol wow
olive marlin
Probably why it exploded: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26154038
potent fossil
i suppose that's more or less what salesforce expected though
olive marlin
Yeah, from the comments they made seems like they wanted to force AWS into patching the features and making the analyzer able to detect it.
merry talon
ashen cliff
mossy vessel
new tech
mossy vessel
In fact, newer than mine 
ashen cliff
MFW I just paid 10€ to the post to "PRINT" a god damn shipping label... now they failed to send it to me, so my only option is to buy a new one...
spiral robin
Sue
mossy vessel
Where is my 3080??
potent fossil
to anyone buying new gfx card plz send me ur old 1
ashen cliff
I'll send you the cursed 1080 Ti.
potent fossil
i will take it.
ashen cliff
I don't think you will.
potent fossil
i will.
ashen cliff
Say good night to you first PCIe slot then.
golden gust
thinking simple doesn't hate himself to unleash pain upon oneself
golden gust
wait, that thing looks as bent as ||.......................||
cosmic raft
<:think_smart:674693949201580066>
that looks bent
potent fossil
ill still take it
mossy vessel
If you want to wash it in the sink just lmk
ashen cliff
I could send you the microwaved 1060. Since you can't even melt that on down to anything anymore.
potent fossil
ill take it
cosmic raft
kashike bed now
no
woven otter
potent fossil
i need to slonp
golden gust
I just wish I could play kitty cannon with ou
woven otter
@waxen panther no u
waxen panther
duck please do not bring drama in paper from other servers
or i will ban you
thank you .
woven otter
Ban this: 🖕
waxen panther
i will be talking to zee seven five zero immediately
woven otter
Z numbers the best friend. Z numbers will ban brocc instead
waxen panther
ok ?
woven otter
Ok
golden gust
broc, heads or tails
waxen panther
heads
golden gust
.coinflip
olive garden
(tails)
golden gust
.flip
waxen panther
quasi valley
(tails)
golden gust
Oh, we got rid of the fun commands...
golden gust
.wa coinflip
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Result: tails - https://is.gd/rJ0mmp
waxen panther
FUCK
golden gust
KEK
waxen panther
...is what duck should be saying
olive garden
3 tails in a row
waxen panther
golden gust
?ban @waxen panther u picked the wrong side of the coin fool
waxen panther
the bots are conspiring against me
woven otter
Get rekt scrub
meager tusk
Ok
woven otter
@waxen panther 
quasi valley
@waxen panther 
waxen panther
hello moderators i being spammed
quasi valley
hello moderators i being spammed
olive marlin
@waxen panther 
waxen panther
bloodstone 
olive garden
@waxen panther 😠
golden gust
could you guys stop pinging @waxen panther
waxen panther
woven otter
@waxen panther sorry
waxen panther
you should be 😠
golden gust
reminds me of when you hit a sibling and you're forced to say sorry
I mean, am just sorry I got in shit, i'd hit you again if I could
woven otter
yeah that's exactly the same situation here except brocc is not my sibling
waxen panther
we're not ? :(
woven otter
yes dw I would still gladly hit you
cedar spade
@waxen panther sorry
waxen panther
@quasi valley
cedar spade
pinging notable ??
quasi valley
ban ?
woven otter
^
cedar spade
#gifs-and-memes
woven otter
mods pls?
cedar spade
MODS
cedar spade
it was not contextual ?
cedar spade
not brought up in conversation ?
woven otter
mods ?
waxen panther
this is a targeted attack of mass deleted messages and fraud
woven otter
you are a targeted attack
cedar spade
brocoo is a targeted attack
waxen panther
who is this weird animal that is able to type
cedar spade
it's called a pineapple you dum
waxen panther
no
woven otter
targeting paper community and harassing its members
waxen panther
vegetables can obviously type
cedar spade
@waxen panther no u
untold meadow
why is it that people mentioning children instantly makes me so much more helpful
someone could be like "i want to commit genocide" and as long as they followed that up with "it's for my children" id just move heaven and earth
olive garden
lol
in terms of PaperMC, do you mean that you would rather help a parent set up a server for their children instead of helping some kid set up a server for fun or something?
cosmic raft
@waxen panther are you hungry?
twin lagoon
kashike go sleep
visual egret
hi
quasi valley
exactly what brocc wanted
cedar spade
we broke kash
vestal jasper
that's hot
waxen panther
i am broken
cosmic raft
you broke me?
visual egret
Is it normal to hear a quiet drdrdr sound coming from your computer
vestal jasper
kashike is an enigma, there is no breaking kashike
you stare into the kashike and the kashike stares back at you
cedar spade
drdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdrdr
waxen panther
have you considered, by chance, checking if a cable is near a fan
crazy thought i know
might lead somewhere!
vestal jasper
cable literally slamming into fan
"why does it sound like a cable is hitting the fan?"
visual egret
which isn’t hitting it
vestal jasper
shit
olive marlin
You likely have multiple fans though.
visual egret
I have 2
vestal jasper
check the other one
visual egret
:sofuckingfunny:
waxen panther
cedar spade
no u
untold meadow
in terms of PaperMC, do you mean that you would rather help a parent set up a se...
absolutely - and id be kind an patient and helpful and use lots of smiley faces
cosmic raft
@waxen panther do you want a massage
olive garden
same, and it really is weird
waxen panther
yes please 
waxen panther
how is sliding scissors around on your skin relaxing 😭
vestal jasper
kashike this stuff's tame for the video genre and you know it lmao
olive marlin
Imagine if you could punch people through the internet.
My coworker tried to be "helpful" and made me loose at least 6 hours...
twin lagoon
Explain
olive marlin
I was running a few hours long tests. He decided to cancel them, rebase my code and start them again for me.
It failed at linter xD
visual egret
i didnt know block game server used so much network
twin lagoon
i wish block game servers used 46gb
twin lagoon
ashen cliff
I assume yours is from a backend server?
ashen cliff
We don't do that here.
twin lagoon
yes and i hate certain things in life too
ashen cliff
Do you hate the fact evolution failed us multiple times?
twin lagoon
yes
untold copper
I hate the fact that I have to study the structure of this stupid cell wall
golden gust
only award i support is the darwin award
untold copper
WHY would I want to know the structure of something that is less than 1nm thick
ashen cliff
On the other hand I hate looking at my LibreNMS setup... I keeps reminding me of the good old times:
https://posili.me/i/2021-02-17_13-02-58.png
twin lagoon
well it's important that you know how your penis looks like
untold copper
well it's important that you know how your penis looks like
smh
twin lagoon
@mossy vessel uwu
golden gust
warning: Contains allegens: nuts.
mossy vessel
<@!254790994594234370> uwu
untold copper
ik how it looks like
it looks like.. how you would expect it to
why am i still here
mossy vessel
This makes me losing braincells again, michele 😔
untold copper
same
ashen cliff
At least you know what brain cells are.
untold copper
atleast I don't have to study the structure of a brain cell 
ashen cliff
Yet.
But hey, at least you are learning something.
Better than learning nothing and just waiting to die.
untold copper
comforting.
honestly tho, when I opened the AP textbook of biology i did NOT expect to be studying how the cell wall works for an hour
and now I've just reached the "cell organelles" part
brilliant
worn ember
Better than learning nothing and just waiting to die.
thats alright with me
ashen cliff
Yet, you are still here.
worn ember
for now
ashen cliff
You are here forever.*
worn ember
you ever wonder what we will have accomplished in 300 years?
ashen cliff
Nothing.
worn ember
probably not much the way things are going 
untold copper
infinite ram
worn ember
Fun fact: the world is getting dumber, just cuz of the fact people with lower education have more children, who do not value education as much
ashen cliff
How things are going:
EV companies lying about their achievements and everything buying it up,
Coal > Nuclear,
Global temperature changes.
worn ember
Achievement unlocked: More water
i was watching the expanse, and wonder if it would ever be like that
kind of a scary thought
ashen cliff
The amount is the same, just in a different form.
ashen cliff
Well, we aren't far away from water not longer being a basic human right at the rate we are going.
olive garden
i was watching the expanse, and wonder if it would ever be like that
read it as a book instead
noob
ashen cliff
Well. No one here can. Since we don't know how to read.
olive garden
lol
She was supposed to have long hair that floats around when in 0g. That was probably out of budget for the movie though.
ashen cliff
Just throw electrostatic charge at the problem.
olive garden
lmao
worn ember
She was supposed to have long hair that floats around when in 0g. That was proba...
ooh that explains why they all have short hair
never thought about that
olive marlin
Oh, ffs...
untold copper
infinite timings
olive marlin
My laptop is really dying.
untold copper
olive marlin
And they won't ship my pc parts till next week...
golden gust
nice knowing ya
ashen cliff
I think I just found the best Discord Bot ever created: https://github.com/MBR-0001/NoStickers
golden gust
olive marlin
And it all started with Cat...
olive marlin
I'm starting thinking it IS OS.
golden gust
*nix? try jumping to another pty maybe
olive marlin
Well, I rebooted.
I'll backup everything to a hard drive, since it's always easier than remote backups.
olive marlin
Crappy drivers.
Krusic I had a freeze first, where it blinked my caps lock key. Then yesterday, all my processes turned zombie. And now this. Doubt driver is an issue here.
Once my data is backed up, I'll switch the drives with my previous laptop and see which one crashes xD
void void
Is it necessary to create a world border for my nether?
worn ember
no
void void
Thanks
I think I found a great plugin so I don't have to use Chat Control Pro, it's called Space Chat. I haven't tested it out but it looks very promising!
olive garden
:drake_nope: supporting kangarko
:drake_dope: not using kangarko's plugins
void void
@olive garden Is Kanagarko the guy who did Chat Control Pro
wide chasm
Yes
void void
I'm grateful for that plugin! Bought it before Nov 2020 when I was trying to create a server, later read what he did, and now I don't purchase premium plugins! :] I've been learning how to create little plugins myself. So I'm glad.
But SpaceChat really looks wonderful
void void
I don't know what Pepega is but 🙂
limber knotBOT
.g Pepega
(phoenix616) https://cleeyk.com/pepega/
basically what I want to say: don't support shitty people 👀
dim shadow
im 50% thru the article and i still have 0 clue what a pepega is
feels like all these wippersnapper terms poppin up
limber knotBOT
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pepega is pretty much the best description imo
dim shadow
bruh lol i knew it was that frog but i've never seen that configuration before
warm anchor
<:monkaHmm:581556528432152765>
netflix adaption meme though 
worn ember
netflix adaption meme though <:notlikerie:806709922317336606>
have you seen the teaser?
looks pretty good
warm anchor
I will keep my expectation low until I actually see the finished product
untold copper
warm anchor
idk ask Artifact dev team @worn ember
untold copper
wassup everyone :D
warm anchor
All that lore and extra story writings kinda wasted hopefully they reuse for this animation lol
untold copper
@warm anchor uwu
bright inlet
"I use Linux"
"Oh cool, which distro?"
"Yes."
worn ember
i feel like doesnt do enough with the lore
then again, idk what more they could do xD
i'm already glad they all have proper backstories
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> uwu
dim shadow
qemu
warm anchor
The things with Dota lore is no one really know what's going on even Valve themselve
dim shadow
vi sitter har i venten och spelar lite dotaaa
grizzled breach
hello I just wanna ask that my port forward at paper dosent work! while the vanilla server and spigot work
limber knotBOT
don't spam...
grizzled breach
ok
tired heath
Hmm I actually wanna sync money balance across my network and pay players per day for playing. Currently I stuck between programming it on my own or using plugins. Anyone knows smth reliable and not completelyarchiv overloaded to do get that?
dim shadow
Hmm I actually wanna sync money balance across my network and pay players per da...
no but also interested in this
limber knotBOT
just use some economy that uses a mysql/other database backend
e.g. craftconomy works fine-ish in parallel on multiple servers
it would require a pretty precise timing attack to break that 👀
dim shadow
._. phoenix would u also happen to know if theres such thing as vault with multiple virtual currencies?
limber knotBOT
no, but Tresor will include that eventually
best vault can do is per-world currencies
which you could theoretically abuse to do multiple currencies
dim shadow
woah what for real? ._.
yes thats exactly what i wanted lol
1 currency per world/gamemode
w/o going bungee
tired heath
Yeah I really wanna use smth finished and plugins I use atM are kinda overloaded, I apric. that tip. Doing it by myself will be only a thing if I can't find smth, 'cause time limited atm
cunning raft
vault technically supports per world accounts
limber knotBOT
craftconomy supports per world currencies with full vault support
it just depends on your plugins if they have support for per-world currencies (e.g. ChestShop does 👀 )
dim shadow
^ all of vault's config ;-;
cunning raft
did you read what phoenix said
tired heath
Ohh but craftconomy also has some bad reviews
limber knotBOT
idiots are everywhere ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tired heath
true
wide chasm
looking at reviews
dim shadow
yea lol this aint ebay u gotta read the reviews individually & judge for urself
cunning raft
a bunch of shit plugins have good reviews and a bunch of good ones have bad reviews
limber knotBOT
(especially if they aren't using whatever version I am using :P)
dim shadow
a lot of ppl leavin 1 star cause they installing it rong
celest terrace
Does craftconomy also have bungeecord support
limber knotBOT
no, economy on bungee isn't really done
(probably because nothing like Vault exists there lol)
celest terrace
ahh, ok... I was struggling with the same thing
limber knotBOT
but seeing as all transactions are done via a mysql database on the main thread it shouldn't result in issues
celest terrace
oh wait, it's 1.8
tired heath
May I can finally get rid of mysql player data bridge now 😄
cunning raft
mysql on main thread lmfao
limber knotBOT
just make sure to use my fork ¯_(ツ)_/¯
celest terrace
I was testing out GemsEconomy but the code is shitttt
limber knotBOT
JRoy: can't do it any else with how Vault works
it doesn't support async economy stuff
limber knotBOT
and any form of caching would just break it
dim shadow
robux style currency for minecraft anyone?
celest terrace
Please god no
tired heath
Wait what, main thread and mysql still fills not so sweet
limber knotBOT
I mean essentials does main thread file writes/reads so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
at least mysql is partially in-memory
cunning raft
technically we only do main thread serialization
dim shadow
id get rich scamming kids out of they minebux on my own server lol
cunning raft
because bukkit won't let us avoid it
limber knotBOT
oh, so it's exploitable? nice
cunning raft
file read/write is async
celest terrace
Thats why you use Skripts Essentials plugin <_<
cunning raft
and its all cached phoenix
limber knotBOT
so completely unsuited for any kind of data-sharing
cunning raft
??????????
oh you mean like syncing it thru some plugin and then have it multi-server?
limber knotBOT
(in the context of a network)
cunning raft
correct bungee isn't supported, the only time saves are joined on the main thread is server shutdown
because we don't support bungee
limber knotBOT
I think it might even be able to fix the last exploit functionality in craftconomy, I think it doesn't lock the table right now, if it would then it couldn't be exploited at all
cunning raft
file writes on the main thread is generally bad for the majority of users
dim shadow
yes i do al my file writes inside inline bukkitrunnable
limber knotBOT
there's also this fork of craftconomy but I don't use that so I can't say if it works properly: https://github.com/pavog/craftconomy3
dim shadow
im lookin up how hard it would be to import robux api into mc
celest terrace
Is there any economy plugin that supports multiple 'default' currency's (server based)?
limber knotBOT
what do you mean by "default currency"?
tired heath
Aa okay I just was thinking about that problem, you actually could sync eco on join/leave only, in a async thread, just handle the set payment synced when ready. Only problem, if you switch between servers or rejoin before write to sql finished, will give wrong results
that suck
s
celest terrace
Well, the problem i'm facing with for example GemsEconomy is that you can set a default currency which is then used by BossShop and other plugins. However, if I want BossShop on another server to use a different currency I can't, because you can only set 1 default global currency with that plugin.
I tried TheNewEconomy as well but it's unfinished and very buggy
limber knotBOT
that's not possible with the Vault API
(unless you abuse the world currencies as mentioned earlier)
celest terrace
On different servers though, with different vault installations as well.
just using the same dataset
topaz mortar
Was there someone on Incendo or ItellectualSites Discord that wanted to recreate the vault concept but with features like that in mind?
cunning raft
Yeah there are multiple rewrites of vault being made
Most are in drafting stage or just dormant
Ik md (not that one) was working on one
Could be grandfathered
Do you not know what grandfathering is
minor badge
fairly sure obfuscation rules did not have grandfathering
phoenix616: you probably know?
limber knotBOT
yeah, they don't
no rule does unless especially mentioned (premium guidelines are different)
topaz mortar
Just get rid or "premium" payable resources/plugins and make it attractive to open source a plugin.
cough Hangar ❤️ cough
limber knotBOT
nobody pays for open source ¯_(ツ)_/¯
minor badge
mcmmo begs to differ
minor badge
yeah mcmmo is premium, but it is also FOSS
celest terrace
I heard the only reason mcmmo has it project opensource is because they dont want people to get ratted by fakes
topaz mortar
nobody pays for open source ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
PSv5 is freemuim.
limber knotBOT
so what you are saying is: "require premium/all resources to be open source", not "remove premium/paid resources"
it's also premium
cunning raft
I think the mcmmo model is cool
limber knotBOT
please show me a successful open source resource that does not use spigot's premium section to sell
worn ember
mcmarket
cunning raft
I do wish spigot would force plugins to comply with gpl but that's a lost cause
limber knotBOT
they only have shit that isn't allowed on spigot 👀
celest terrace
on mc-market you literally have to pay to breath
limber knotBOT
I wish that too, JRoy
but it seems that even in this community people don't believe in the GPL
worn ember
tbh that one guy did it pretty well, just sell as premium, have the source but dont release the POM
limber knotBOT
lol
dim shadow
gpl is for opensource tho what about premiem plugins
celest terrace
There's nothing wrong with selling premium plugins, if they were any good...
cunning raft
gpl is for opensource tho what about premiem plugins
that's the point
minor badge
it is completely fine to sell GPL software
cunning raft
You can sell gpl code but you're supposed to share source upon request
worn ember
they are required to give the source, thats the whole point
dim shadow
lol no1 would buy then xD
celest terrace
EpicWorldGenerator looks cool, is it good?
worn ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
cunning raft
i mean that may be the case
limber knotBOT
I beg to differ, people buy my GPL premium resources lmao
dim shadow
i like others better tbh like uhh terraform i think its called
cunning raft
but the author doesn't have to support them
dim shadow
they'd still have to buy it to receive the source
ohhh see that changes things
cunning raft
they'd still have to buy it to receive the source
people who get the source could share it legally
celest terrace
hehehhe
viral hornet
u ok?
limber knotBOT
people tend to not share stuff that they paid money for
minor badge
that is true
celest terrace
Same story with MyticMobs and BossTM
cunning raft
phoenix is right tho
at the end of the day blackspigot doesn't kill spigot premium resources
dim shadow
can i charge extra for the source? say a "processing fee"?
viral hornet
@quasi valley pls
cunning raft
that proves that alone
cunning raft
can i charge extra for the source? say a "processing fee"?
no
dim shadow
(assuming gpl)
limber knotBOT
you can
if it's a real processing fee
like shipping payment if they want a physical copy
just read the damn license, lmao
celest terrace
with this one you pay $5 extra in processing fee's (well at least I did when I bought it and got it refunded short after )
dim shadow
idk id totally charge ppl for the calories used up sending that email with the link .-.
limber knotBOT
pretty sure that plugin isn't open source
dim shadow
ther u go
limber knotBOT
anything that isn't open source isn't fine at all...
cunning raft
i mean obfuscation can be fine
limber knotBOT
because in some jurisdictions you can't even legally decompile it
cunning raft
nowhere worth living
limber knotBOT
pretty sure in most US states
and in Germany you are only allowed to decompile for educational purposes
dim shadow
i like the concept of source on request tho, fee or not... i may end up doing that if i ever sell anythin
celest terrace
I'd buy stuff from you if I had money
limber knotBOT
but proofing that someone decompiled your code and modified it and uses it on their own server/machine is hard or impossible lol
cunning raft
pretty sure in most US states
would probably only apply if the code interacted with apis or such
tired heath
I don't know Craftconomy looks kinda dead
limber knotBOT
any open source project that I use on my server can't be dead ;)
viral hornet
I love readin the old "YOU MAY NOT DECOMPILE THIS PLUGIN" on some resources on spigot 
ok promise I wont
limber knotBOT
a fake gold chest
tired heath
Last update in git kinda like ages ago
dim shadow
like plugin does thorough check & if it detects pirate copy, wreck server/pc as much as it can
limber knotBOT
lmao
dim shadow
so is piracy lol tit for tat
dim shadow
yes for intentionally fuckin wit mi wallet ._.
limber knotBOT
I have more sympathy for softwre pirates than for people creating malicious code
celest terrace
pirating plugin is actually the fault of spigot itself.
not setting up refund rules and quality standards
limber knotBOT
fuck anyone who uses their skills to hurt other humans directly (and no, copying doesn't hurt anyone)
waxen panther
🪑 
cunning raft
that is probably not true
limber knotBOT
vacoup: that's not true, that has nothing to do with piracy
celest terrace
you can literally post any crap you want and ask $10 for it
void void
Hi, if I disable the-end in bukkit, can I re-enable it later?
warm anchor
celest terrace
then say: no refunds
limber knotBOT
people are going to pirate anyways
dim shadow
dont get me wrong i grew up in a city with like street stands sellin pirate shit lol, i totally get piracy... but liek devs should be able to defend themselves if they want
celest terrace
I agree but I do sometimes try out plugins first semi-legally
limber knotBOT
vacoup: also fuck you for believing that I don't invest a significant amount of time into reviewing the premium resource queues
celest terrace
well not you perse lol
I've spend way to much money on premium resources that are shit
void void
Can you re-enable The End if you disable it?
dim shadow
yes
limber knotBOT
it's always funny because you guys never see the amount of trash that gets rejected
void void
Thank you
dim shadow
phoenix show n tell
cunning raft
ok
dim shadow
show us the creme de la creme of rejected plugens
limber knotBOT
no
dim shadow
rip
celest terrace
sed
dim shadow
wait do all plugins get reviewed by mods?
limber knotBOT
only premium ones
dim shadow
ooo ok
celest terrace
ohh, that explains why mine wasn't rejected.
limber knotBOT
free ones get moderated based on user reports
dim shadow
LOL @celest terrace xD
limber knotBOT
also nobody cares about the quality of free ones
cunning raft
What do they review, if images are sweet and text kinda cool?
there's a whole wiki page on the requirements....
tired heath
Not going to release smth as premium any time soon
upper flicker
these were always my favorite premium rejections https://i.imgur.com/2qPFGCu.png
eclipse goes brrrr
limber knotBOT
lol, yeah
celest terrace
I think back in the day when bukkit was still a thing they checked all free resources as well.
cunning raft
doesn't bukkitdev still have resource mods?
limber knotBOT
but they are paid so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
cunning raft
i think its like one poor guy
celest terrace
ohh oke interesting
tired heath
Aaaaa I can not decide if I should try this Craftconomy or not, whyyyyy
limber knotBOT
but they probably don't have that many submissions every day, maybe it's just volunteers too, dunno
ofunny: just make sure to use my fork lmao
upper flicker
everyone and their mom submitting kitpvp plugins after we explicitly said no kitpvp plugins - and then arguing with us and raging about it was also fun
celest terrace
I'm working on a open source envoy plugin because there's no good one updated
tired heath
You mean that Phoenix616 dude on git hugh, sound sus
dim shadow
envoy?
tired heath
^^
celest terrace
xD
spare venture
Carl the Creeper or whatever
celest terrace
Like it runs and then it distributes chests
Based on given requirements of the event
Around the map basically
spare venture
Why does it run around the map haha
void void
Is there an alternative to WorldBorder for 1.16.5? It says it's no longer being supported
cunning raft
to generate chunks? Chunky
tired heath
yeah is called vanilla wb 😄
limber knotBOT
WorldBorder has an updated fork though
celest terrace
It's an event plugin and it distributes chests with predefined contents at a predefined location set by the admin. For example radius or setting each chest individually. It's pretty simple I suppose, but I haven't made that many plugins yet
void void
Where can I find the updated fork?
limber knotBOT
pretty sure it's even pinned in one of the channels lol
void void
Ok, I'll go check
cunning raft
limber knotBOT
or just use that lol
celest terrace
I wish paper had it's own plugin page that was better searchable
limber knotBOT
glances at #hangar
warm anchor
sooon
void void
I'm intrigued by Chunky now
celest terrace
oh wow that's cool
void void
Does anyone here use Chunky?
celest terrace
Yes
tired heath
They even do releases, that's premium git level
celest terrace
I used it to pregen my map
void void
Alright! Thanks
celest terrace
Ok xD
void void
Great!
celest terrace
Does anyone want to see my first plugin and tell me if i fkd up on it somewhere? its very small.
void void
If you rename plugin jar files, they still work right? I'm trying to stay as organized as possible
void void
Wow, thank you
untold meadow
yoo was just reading the earlier convos - i used to be a dbo reviewer or whatever they called them it was actually surprisingly fun tbh, they had a neat lil program that automated a lot of the menial work
obvs stuff got through the net but it was actually a p good system
no idea if it still works the same way or whatever now
limber knotBOT
Kezz: if only it was open source 👀
void void
celest terrace
That guy is a scammer imo
void void
He lives in a sauna
limber knotBOT
"Official Review"
cunning raft
the guy in that video is the author
limber knotBOT
"Author youtube channel"
cunning raft
so i doubt its a unbiased review
limber knotBOT
tired heath
Aa yeah, can somebody inform me about the chatcontrol drama, I planned an update and now ...
void void
Most people know he's a scammer, but SpaceChat looks really very promising
celest terrace
How to become a great server owner crap
void void
And free :]
visual egret
what about CarbonChat
celest terrace
Yeah I was stupid enough to buy his Boss plugin once but I got it refunded
void void
SpaceChat seems cleaner
cunning raft
i mean it has like 4 features
void void
EssentialsXChat doesn't have enough for what I want on my server
ashen cliff
But they work.
cunning raft
or just use CarbonChat
twin lagoon
venturechat had an sqli
void void
SpaceChat.
twin lagoon
that's enough to not use it
ashen cliff
Imagine your chat needing NMS to work.
dim shadow
essentialsxchat anyone?
celest terrace
I love essentials chat
visual egret
LPC is enough
void void
EssentialsXChat didn't have all the features I wanted
visual plover
is it posible to get in touch with bundaberg?
tired heath
I mean I bought Chatcontrol years ago, most control features annoyed me and player same way so I was not using a lot of it. What features does a good chat needs what can get handled by an average user. I also think about essential only
untold meadow
Kezz: if only it was open source 👀
legit tho - it actually took out so much of the work and literally did everything. you'd just press a button and bam decompiled plugin for you to go and enjoy... something similar for hangar would be kinda cool tbh if possible/desired
void void
I want players to be able to click on usernames to msg them, I want to use @ mentions, and I want profanity control
dim shadow
yea i use my own chatplugin but nowadays u can accomplish 100% of what i did wit just essx/luckperms :I
o shit thats next level lol @void void
dim shadow
dam lol i never even seen anythin like that, sounds cool tho
untold meadow
id love to see if i could find all my old dbo/fbo friends and see if they're still around - had so much fun working on silly little plugins and dicking about in the forums
void void
waterdrink, what kind of server do you run?
celest terrace
You can use Google's profanity API
To filter even insults xD
I was also working on a plugin for that
dim shadow
survival... well pvp survival but no1 pvp's cuz it's not 1.8 lol wbu
celest terrace
void void
SMP... vanillaish, not flashy in your face, very simple
I'm actually setting it up today, I had a previous server that was just getting too complicated with plugins
void void
Is your server whitelisted waterdrink?
celest terrace
void void
Who is Phoenix?
cunning raft
why are you shitting on phoenix for being a resource mod
ashen cliff
void void
What is Phoenix?
celest terrace
idk im just joking lol he called me out
upper flicker
ah yes another one of these
void void
Oh it's a bot?
upper flicker
you just phrase your insults and attacks more eloquently and it lets you through fine
machine learning is not amazing for this task yet
or their data set is crap
or both
void void
I joined an adult MC 100% vanilla server last night... that had a bot, and it kept annoying me
celest terrace
6% is not a lot though
twin lagoon
it was a joke
celest terrace
oh ok 😛
twin lagoon
it's supposed to be 90% because HCF is toxic shit
dim shadow
adult ._. wat
twin lagoon
celest terrace
hahaha ok I didn't get your joke
worn ember
void void
I don't understand what's happening in the chat 98.05% of the time
celest terrace
I like this API though cuz you can use different types of filters well. not just toxicity but also profanity there are like 6 filters.
celest terrace
haha omg
void void
I still run Windows XP, so?
celest terrace
This guy is a savage
void void
Oh it's Matej -.-
dim shadow
lol id still be on xp had it not been for drivers & games moving forward w/o it
void void
Am I allowed to say someone has a punch-able face?
I'm not going to, but...
You know
worn ember
I'm not going to, but...
you just answered your own question
ashen cliff
I could never punch that face:
visual egret
punchable
void void
That is retouched
dim shadow
who is that i feel like ive seen him b4
celest terrace
I like how you have a cutout of him ready to be used at any time.
dim shadow
i think its just bags
ashen cliff
Well. That is the only image under my Windows Photos.
void void
Lol, it should an emoji here
ashen cliff
No.
visual egret
you dont need a tutorial
celest terrace
Honestly, you don't need a tutorial
void void
Trust me, I need a tutorial
celest terrace
Just prepare yourself to wait several days for it to be done.
void void
Several days?!
dim shadow
several weeks*
tired heath
Btw can chunky do trim?
visual egret
this is self explanitory
worn ember
lol
void void
Worldborder took less time
celest terrace
Depends on your CPU
worn ember
depends on the radius and specs
visual egret
chunky is faster than worldborder
void void
I'm hosting with Apex
celest terrace
And that
dim shadow
i tried to multithread world generation to make it go faster but it didnt go well ;-; some villages r goofed
celest terrace
That is not possible right?
cunning raft
not safely
dim shadow
multithread? yea just run multiple server instances & then combine world files
worn ember
it has to end up on the main thread one way or another
celest terrace
omg nice oke
dim shadow
but like i said it didnt go well lol
worn ember
multithread? yea just run multiple server instances & then combine world files
thats what i do
cunning raft
this is the dumbest fucking idea i've ever heard
void void
That's a little rude
dim shadow
@worn ember does ur world look alright? players keep findin goofy lookin terrain around villages on mine
void void
That's just java's worldgen
void void
Most villages are ugly and stupid
dim shadow
this is the dumbest fucking idea i've ever heard
it seemed genius at the time xD
spare venture
That would’ve been cool in like 1.14 ded
dim shadow
yeah ive still yet to compare those areas with a properly generated version
spare venture
Ah
dim shadow
actually ima go do that rn lol ima ask players for coords again
spare venture
Because 1.14 you could only generate like 45 chunks per second max
worn ember
shouldnt that work if you use the same seed tho?
spare venture
Nowadays it doesn’t matter since you get 200+
dim shadow
shouldnt that work if you use the same seed tho?
yes ofc
celest terrace
the question is then, why didn't it work?
worn ember
yeah with paper your cpu is pretty much maxed all the time anyway when generating chunks