Just turn verification to mobile phone only 
(rip Oskar and Snoopa)
#general
warm anchor
spare venture
Okay but it doesn’t stop bots at all and would just inconvenience people
zealous wedge
normal people might not want discord to have their phone number
formal turret
yup
warm anchor
normal people might not want discord to have their phone number
You don’t want wampus to call you at 3 o’clock in the morning to get up and pee?
golden gust
there are ways to bypass that option anyways afaik
spare venture
That and plenty of bots have SMS on their accounts
warm anchor
Idk it worked for my server until this is some new shit 
Some bot also has anti raid feature and you will get false passive
spare venture
My first reaction to bots was that and it didn’t do anything
limber knotBOT
bot raided eh
spare venture
Bots still get through
limber knotBOT
sounds like we should all move to IRC
spare venture
Mhhhm
vernal moth
where bots never happen 😄
warm anchor
Robo you smells that’s why no one on irc
vernal moth
but at least in irc you can actually fight them
mental meadow
I want to ban people
limber knotBOT
no such thing as a gline in dumcord
limber knotBOT
but here, c:
spare venture
You can fight them on discord
warm anchor
Aurora needs some action
mental meadow
Exactly
warm anchor
She needs her banning quota today
spiral robin
aurourara 
limber knotBOT
r u channeling ur inner wizjany
vernal moth
banning by regex is a really nice feature of irc ^^
golden gust
send that action to proxi, she keeps tryna hit on me
warm anchor
Wizjany actually helped someone in #paper-help today
limber knotBOT
ip range banning too 👀
warm anchor
I was impressed
limber knotBOT
or even easier: require accounts to be registered, filters 99.9% of the IRC spam bots lmao
vernal moth
ah yeah, in irc you can ban entire cities or countries 😂
spare venture
Discord accounts have to be registered too
limber knotBOT
or well, just using IRC might filter out most idiots
golden gust
I gotta make a dumcord bot for this discord at some point
limber knotBOT
runs
golden gust
Reminds me of the fun I had when my mate made a simple chat thing
warm anchor
Putting on zzzcats massive todo list
golden gust
and we just played cat and mouse with one another
But, I was the asshole being the spammer
mental meadow
cat fix waterfall instead
static pilot
Hello
spiral robin
hello
magic river
I can't get over how dumb the logo for the Super Bowl is this year
mental meadow
is that today?
magic river
dull linden
looks like several discords are getting bot raided
dull linden
ok cool xd
cunning raft
it's right now
mental meadow
I can't wait till they try here
magic river
It's the 50th one (LV) but the logo looks like it's the 49th (LIV)
dull linden
just a heads up lol
vernal moth
The ban hammers are polished ^^
potent fossil
<@&748618676189528155>
mental meadow
?lockdown
limber knotBOT
https://is.paper.sexy/ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
good god
Backdoors
Relay bot is pretty backed up though, lol
yeah thats gonna be going for days
yeah, it's awesome
mental meadow
^^
mighty storm
Can we find a nicer way to express our love?
mental meadow
?lockdown end
leaden oxideBOT
Unlocked 18/18 channels.
spiral robin
hi
vestal jasper
weee
swift root
magic
potent fossil
hello
mighty storm
okay do NOT repeat what they said
golden gust
I liked it better in lockdown
spiral robin
i love papermc
vestal jasper
I liked it better when cat was sleeping
mental meadow
~~please don't repeat the bots word ~~
waxen panther
hello gamers ?
potent fossil
hey can we get a -m in irc from one of u dumz
mighty storm
LMAO
waxen panther
lmfao
spiral robin
"paper"
mental meadow
xD
spiral robin
but all in one sentence
waxen panther
please osakr
warm anchor
atleast they love paper
spiral robin
youll be my best friend
warm anchor
DO they spam they love yatopia in thier discord? @waxen panther
vernal moth
I wonder what happens if the webhook uses a banned phrase, lol
limber knotBOT
also https://is.paper.sexy/gdB5LAE7.png ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
warm anchor
I btter hope not
warm anchor
LOL
waxen panther
on papermc friendly words
mental meadow
irc can't delete messages
waxen panther
dont say that aurora, phoenix will go on his censorship spiel
limber knotBOT
I wonder if u do like "click dis emoji to join these channels" sort of thing would thwart this iteration
probably
spiral robin
cunning raft
imagine being the mf setting this shit up for days on end
limber knotBOT
could even do a captcha with it requiring the correct emoji to be clicked
vernal moth
Even if you do shit like that, they can still PM spam
noble iris
why do you say dumcord all the time?
vernal moth
Or was that fixes now?
vernal moth
Cause that's the proper term for this software goose
magic river
Discord is the least shitty of all the shitty Mumble/IRC replacements 😛
cunning raft
"move to irc"
limber knotBOT
idk, slack is pretty fine
vernal moth
teams <3
limber knotBOT
team based tho obviously
matrix is fine too 👀
o ya, MS Teams pretty kewl
anything that isn't centralized or proprietary is fine
runs
magic river
We use mattermost for work
vernal moth
Hopefully we can use teams at work soon...
limber knotBOT
I haven't looked into matrix but one guy used it
magic river
It doesn't pause gifs or videos when they lose focus
limber knotBOT
and he setup an IRC and slack bridge iirc
vernal moth
We got a guerilla mattermost instance that architecture doesn't know about at work 😂
magic river
mattermost's formatting for replies and quotes makes more sense but the performance is bad
Just idling with the client open is enough to kill my battery if my laptop doesn't sleep overnight
cunning raft
same for any node application
magic river
So if I fall asleep with a movie going or something and didn't bring my power cord if Mattermost was open the battery dies
Discord is fine though
zealous wedge
whee
swift root
whoo
spiral robin
zml 
limber knotBOT
hi aber!!!
mental meadow
i luv paper
vernal moth
Banned
mental meadow
vernal moth
We shouldn't talk about that in public tho, know the bot owners know you removed the word
mental meadow
I couldve already added it back tho
opal thorn
i actually joined bc i saw another server get raided
opal thorn
over there they're saying "yall gay lmao"
mental meadow
we are prepared^^
opal thorn
so basically its just pro-paper here and everywhere else "switch to paper lol"
cunning raft
ok
void void
i just shit myself
limber knotBOT
oops
vernal moth
?lockdown
cunning raft
waxen panther
pog !
spiral robin
bruh
spring karma
LUL
cunning raft
mental meadow
?lockdown
limber knotBOT
🦀
vernal moth
Why didn't my lockdown work?
vernal moth
Oh well
spiral robin
i love machas
mighty storm
great cats everyone
waxen panther
we're back? 
dull linden
that was fast damn ok
spiral robin
zealous wedge
yall were missing out on the irc party
vernal moth
Dw they will come back
magic ice
Rory 😍
high niche
what the hell happened here
cosmic raft
3
dull linden
praise the ppl who got rid of them fast xdd
spiral robin
hello kashike!
merry cave
lovely cats 🙂
mental meadow
magic river
void void
Hey, I'm using PaperSpigot 1.8.8, and I would like to know how do I get a Enderman Spawner (in my inventory)
magic river
lol 1.8
magic river
lol paperspigot
upper flicker
that would be the first message
mental meadow
xD
magic river
golden gust
mfw
vernal moth
Lmao, the first message after lockdown
high niche
It's suiting. that's all.
mighty storm
hey i agreed that 1.8.8 has 0 support but i'd decided to ask anyway
static badge
GIVE ME 1.8 OR GIVE ME DEATH
magic river
That's the new bot message, better get rid of it
opal thorn
Hey, I'm using PaperSpigot 1.8.8, and I would like to know how do I get a Enderm...
i hope this is a meme message
void void
?
opal thorn
paperspigot 1.8.8 isnt even supported and i think thats clearly stated somewhere
golden gust
We haven't supported 1.8 in years, as is literally all over our downloads page
mighty storm
god tier bait or you are just disregarding that we wont provide support
golden gust
Go google for a give command generator from that era or find a plugin or something
high niche
travertine update to 1.8 when?
opal thorn
god tier bait or you are just disregarding that we wont provide support
i hope its the former
mighty storm
already is
void void
Okay, and on another version how to get this spawner?
tribal rivet
can I haz 1.8 support!??!?!?!
opal thorn
guys how do i play paperspigot on 1.5.2 i cant find the download
golden gust
seriously, google it, the thing has changed over the years
tribal rivet
where paper infDev download
golden gust
There are literally pretty command generators on the internet for everything these days
mighty storm
just rename paper-1.15.2-100.jar to paper-1.5.2-100.jar, you'll trick the server into booting 1.5 instead
high niche
perfect plan!
tribal rivet
just rename paper-1.15.2-100.jar to paper-1.5.2-100.jar, you'll trick the server...
10.000.000IQ
dull linden
paper help still locked rip
spare venture
hello
mighty storm
leave it to spigot to take over a minute to go from [19:17:15] [Thread-2/INFO]: Stopping server to actually shutting down
spare venture
super bowl is very lopsided so far
high niche
sports is stupid anyway. play minecraft.
golden gust
minecraft is stupid anyways. Play bitc... nvm
high niche
play GME
spare venture
more people are watching the super bowl rn than own java edition
prob not overall tho minecraft has sold a lot
magic river
You mean soccer?
robust tiger
why is #adorable-pets a thing but #adorable-puppies isnt?
golden gust
Hey, they put their foot to the ball once in a while
spare venture
world cup final gets like a billion viewers doesnt it lol
vernal moth
No i mean football, the sport where you touch the ball with your foot all the time
mighty storm
puppies arent adorable jkjk
magic river
Hey, the British named it soccer, don't blame us for them changing their mind later 😛
spare venture
oh you mean association football mini
mighty storm
No i mean football, the sport where you touch the ball with your foot all the ti...
thats soccer buddy
robust tiger
... so you have chosen death
spare venture
aka soccer
noble iris
what is pretty in pink role
golden gust
Only 'murica would go, "what do we name this sport where we throw a ball at one another?"
vernal moth
I have never heard association football before
golden gust
Ohhh, I know, let's call it football!
dull linden
americafirst
spare venture
i mean football started with a lot more kicking... it has just evolved to throwing...
mighty storm
19:21 up 13 days, 7:41, 4 users, load averages: 76.92 39.44 29.72 alright guys is this bad
cobalt surge
Eeewwww essence o' cat... Yuck
spare venture
noble iris
Its like a stretched ball
dull linden
spherical ball
magic river
It's literally the name for it on wikipedia 😄
golden gust
M U R I C A
unreal quarry
merry cave
anyone win any cash on superbowl boxes ht?
tropic flame
i absolutely loved the lockdown
spare venture
i mean it initially started with a lot more kicking so it made sense to call it football
you couldnt even pick up the ball originally
vernal moth
tropic flame
Hey, I'm using PaperSpigot 1.8.8, and I would like to know how do I get a Enderm...
my man, use this to help you https://ezekielelin.com/give/ and learn a bit about data tags and you should be able to figure it out
golden gust
they alread left
golden gust
the sheer thought of having to like, you know, do stuff, probs scared them
magic river
Football in the US started as soccer, morphed in to rugby, then morphed in to what it is now
tropic flame
imagine being scared of research
he could be happily using 1.8.8 without annoying anyone
spare venture
Football in the US started as soccer, morphed in to rugby, then morphed in to wh...
but muh handegg /s
magic river
btw it's called association football because these guys make the rules https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Football_Association
Or did anyway
limber knotBOT
yes
mental meadow
welcome back irc scrubs
limber knotBOT
we made ourselves :)
more like
welcome back dumcordians
u have been rejoined to the true chat protocol
golden gust
actually, ur mum an ur dad did the dance
warm anchor
wdym robo We were back before irc
golden gust
which gave u teh chance
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) xkcd: Tower of Babel (5 February 2021)
golden gust
No, that's cloudbot
limber knotBOT
wdym EterNity? we were never gone
warm anchor
limber knotBOT
ya u missed a lot of stuff here
mighty storm
sethbling here
limber knotBOT
robomwm I can't find any reference to irc explorer except for on sketchy "mirror" sites
I didn't miss you
please only speak for yourself, Z750
it's ded sulu
author like
mental meadow
zml!!! ❤️
limber knotBOT
disappeared like
golden gust
Didn't notice y'all where gone
golden gust
it was kinda peaceful and nice for once
limber knotBOT
aurora!!!!
like, idk if he died or something
I wanted to tab zml
<3
:'(
unfortunate, phoenix
I thought it was on purpose
you can see on facebook and a couple other places for tilelogic, he was the author
i like our discord friends
he last chatted in freenode about an update for windows 10
especially aurora
mental meadow
😮
limber knotBOT
and then his activity just... ceased. frozen in time
his bouncer eventually died, and his store listing disappeared
dull linden
bots :o
mental meadow
I do also use IRC for stuff!!!
limber knotBOT
👀
lol aurora
the only way I can reinstall IRC Explorer is to restore from backup on a Windows 8 machine, cuz it isn't just delisted it's flat out gone except for whatever server Windows 8 downloads apps from to restore
limber knotBOT
mental meadow
again
spare venture
never heard of irc explorer
spare venture
limber knotBOT
not sure
spare venture
i use a real irc client
limber knotBOT
I think I've looked it up once or twice, haven't really dived into it
it has to be stored somewhere
you probably can after you rip it apart a bit
there's a bunch of stuff to keep you from doing that
because MS doesnt want you to
all I found was downloading appx's straight from the store
mental meadow
what should I play now, league or overwatch
limber knotBOT
which, can't really do after the fact
spare venture
neither
limber knotBOT
you should go make tacos
golden gust
I personally prefer to play myself
limber knotBOT
you should get ice cream
spare venture
tell ggn to unban my account
mental meadow
you should get ice cream
it's 02:40 am
golden gust
"I'm gonna be good today and look after my health"
mental meadow
lol
golden gust
wakes up at like 9:30pm
limber knotBOT
irc clients are p easy to write, the protocol is straightforward
making a nice UI is tricker tho
ya but I've never done UI stuff
ye
*making a nice UI without spinning up a whole web browser
mental meadow
just throw bootstrap in there
limber knotBOT
well it's gonna b UWP most likely
spiral robin
Making ui is hard 
limber knotBOT
what decent UI libs are there these days ? can QT quick do real things now?
Making a UI that can act like Discord or Slack without spinning up a browser is a whole event
gotta use IRC on my xbox and hololens ofc
golden gust
I mean, QT and electron are basically the only real cross-platform things
limber knotBOT
Qt*
speaking of which, I wish UWP for xbox had access to kinect skeletal data
just use java
QT is the Apple media player
golden gust
QT BEST MEDIA PLAYER
limber knotBOT
poor VLC
golden gust
says sorry to mpv and huggles it
golden gust
vlc used to always crash for me, tbqh
limber knotBOT
(that's how you pronounce it)
golden gust
Hence, mpv master-race
limber knotBOT
VLC on windows store c:
can mpv play youtube videos though?
Well, you actually just pronounce it as cute, I realize now I've made this more confusing by trying to be clever
mytube can
mpv https://youtube.com/watch?v=<videoID> worked last time I tried it
nice
yeah, it uses youtube-dl internally for that, so you might have to install it too
but it'll use a streaming mode
golden gust
Yea, you need youtube-dl installed, but, works fine
limber knotBOT
I just use VLC everywhere for video, never had issues with it in 15 years lol
Streaming HTTP is easy for non-live stuff, you just use regular HTTP
golden gust
I just had too many issues with VLC crashing
limber knotBOT
youtube does weird protocol things iirc?
(besides on my TV I guess where I use kodi)
I mean, if you want to automatically switch quality levels you need DASH or whatever still but you can just take the download URL youtube-dl gives you and stream it
golden gust
and, I pretty much always have a terminal in range if I wanna launch mpv, and it's the default video player too on my machine iirc
mental meadow
VLC is dying for me a lot recently as well
golden gust
OS?
mental meadow
Windows 
limber knotBOT
and by stream I mean you can even do something like curl <raw video URL> | mpv
golden gust
oof
upper flicker
I havent noticed many issues with it on win or linux
mental meadow
As soon as there are 3 different subtitle fonts on screen it dies
or moving subtitles
upper flicker
but macOS especially, VLC clearly is a lil less interested in
golden gust
Like, it used to be stable af on windows
untold copper
yes i can type!
upper flicker
banned
untold copper
finally no more phone needed
mental meadow
It would have been so funny if the bot auto banned you for that
golden gust
I kinda wish it had
limber knotBOT
ya know
spiral robin
limber knotBOT
u can just
use the better chat protocol
VLC refuses to play anything on my network drive from GNOME and mpv crashes as soon as any UI is drawn on top of the video
spiral robin
pls no then we cant block 'em
limber knotBOT
So if you start it and never move your mouse again it'll play but not fullscreen
mental meadow
but I gotta say the new VLC design looks really sexy
limber knotBOT
nah it's ez 2 block
untold copper
Gotta update vlc
limber knotBOT
we just discussed the many moderation options of IRC
totem (GNOME Videos) plays things from my network drive but doesn't buffer or something
vestal jasper
holy shit I saw vlc like 5 times and got scared
limber knotBOT
It seems to play until the next iframe then pause and download until the next one
limber knotBOT
But it doesn't download ahead of time while playing or something, it seems
lol, yeah
I should probably look in to using samba or something to mount the drive manually instead of using gvfs for it
magic river
Hey where did my avatar go for IRC messages?
limber knotBOT
samba 😅
upper flicker
likely need to talk in here once
limber knotBOT
weird
upper flicker
it all got a little worse when discord changed their api a bit and the intents system
limber knotBOT
I've found nfs to work way more reliably (if you don't need windows)
limber knotBOT
It's just an external drive attached to my router, I don't have a proper NAS setup
golden gust
Not that sshfs doesn't have its own stupid moments
untold copper
ono i missed the whole football conversation
limber knotBOT
Choices are SMB and FTP
untold copper
sad
golden gust
ouch
limber knotBOT
why not NFS?
upper flicker
yeah see now your avatar shows up fine
golden gust
"dum router"
limber knotBOT
don't tell me you don't have linux on your router?
upper flicker
may have to poke at that again
golden gust
Does windows support NFS?
limber knotBOT
It's an 802.11ax router
golden gust
if not, I got doubts they're gonna bother offering that for the sub 10% of people who can use it
upper flicker
not oob
limber knotBOT
tf is that?
upper flicker
there's a feature you can turn on
spiral robin
its cool
limber knotBOT
ah
limber knotBOT
And I'm not going to spend $500 to send one to a dd-wrt developer
untold copper
hm
limber knotBOT
you mean OpenWRT
right?
No?
I've only run dd-wrt on one router, I don't know these things :P
upper flicker
theyre both things that exist
limber knotBOT
I had airports for years then a ubiquiti setup
oh right, dd-wrt is open source too
Used a dd-wrt one as a wireless repeater
I've just always been an OpenWRT/LEDE guy lol
That was just the cheapest 802.11n router that was supported because I wasn't using that network anyway, it was to get rid of a dead spot in the kitchen
cosmic raft
helo
spiral robin
Hello kashike
spiral robin
Of course
cosmic raft
upper flicker
lol
spiral robin
It gets a feature and then applies it
cosmic raft
lol
mental meadow
is today finally the day
cosmic raft
hm?
cunning raft
no sorry check back tomorrow
mental meadow
I got called an egirl in league after someone told me to ride his dick
spiral robin
😳
brave radish
Excluding packaging, cosmetic and license differences OpenJDK is the same as OracleJDK.
- Minecraft Wiki
So why do people benchmark them separately?
golden gust
back in the day there used to be a wider difference
serene bolt
they haven't always been the same, used to perform differently, they only reached full parity since 11 I think
and with oracles licensing, you really should be using open at this point
upper flicker
I thought it was 9 because thats when they changed the license on oracle and made a big deal
if you used 9 though, oofers
anyway, theyre the same now
brave radish
ah so being as I don't use the installer and just dump a bunch of extracted tar.gzs in my home folder I may as well just be using this one?
golden gust
You can't use oracle JDK in a production environment without paying oracle
serene bolt
if you're on linux just install openjdk with your package manager
golden gust
use it for dev all you want, but, it really doesn't matter there outside of tainting your environment with proprietry stuff which may or may not be there in openjdk, which is the defacto for the community and such
brave radish
if you're on linux just install openjdk with your package manager
do they even have 15? besides, I don't install them anyway cuz I find it easier to manage like this
brave radish
You can't use oracle JDK in a production environment without paying oracle
It mostly is for dev other then occasionally some friends joining so that's not really a problem
k i'll just use open next time I update
serene bolt
not sure why you're going after the oracle version, though
burnt grove
I want to use the Minecraft Development plugin for Intellij, but currently it only supports up to 1.16.4.
Do I have to just make my plugin from scratch??
brave radish
you should be fine using the version for 1.16.4
brave radish
and you could always add the paper API jar manually, yes
upper flicker
or wait like 5 minutes and Ill bump the number
brave radish
or wait like 5 minutes and Ill bump the number
oh that's your plugin? ig i'll use it lol
golden gust
its demonwav's plugin
upper flicker
its demon's plugin
golden gust
ping, oop
upper flicker
I want to use the Minecraft Development plugin for Intellij, but currently it on...
I just updated it, 1.16.5 will show in new projects now
if you already made it, just update the pom.xml or build.gradle file
golden gust
i said his full name, pretty sure he's on IRC so that woulda pung
brave radish
oh lol I thought u meant I accidentally pinged (pung?) Z
mental meadow
i feel attacked somehow
brave radish
i feel attacked somehow
ESL?
burnt grove
thanks!
mighty storm
uhh english subsystem for linux
worn pasture
loooooooooooool
brave radish
English as a Second Language
upper flicker
lol
worn pasture
woosh
mighty storm
wait so WSL is Windows as a second language?
windows really is considering how hard it is to learn
mental meadow
English as a Second Language
nein
worn pasture
i saw someone selling their pc because they didn't understand how to use it (they are an apple fan boy, so obviously used to using a mac)
couldn't help but laugh
mighty storm
windows is ok but i will never use it for developing
i can only hate myself so much
brave radish
windows is my first language that I then run from in terror
mighty storm
all i do on computers is code, do my job, or school
golden gust
ngl, first time I used a mac I struggled tryna eject a disk
worn pasture
lol actually same
one of those all in one imacs
had to get a paper clip and poke the little hole
brave radish
ngl, first time I used a mac I struggled tryna eject a disk
https://linux.die.net/man/8/umount , like any sane person
golden gust
I installed hackintosh for the lulz once, but, didn't have wifi support for my card, so, just delete it, tried it again a few years later for teh lulz
I mean, it was my teachers computer, just whip open a terminal, lul
brave radish
oh you mean physically eject lol
golden gust
Yea, usb flash
brave radish
oh then you don't mean physically eject lol
brave radish
I mean, it was my teachers computer, just whip open a terminal, lul
Teacher: this computer doesn't work
student: terminal
teacher: "ahh they're hacking my computer"
golden gust
But, I mean, I didn't know enough about macOS to know that there was a *nix terminal, annnd that it was my teachers computer, not sure they woulda apprechiated that lol
But, after using a hackintosh for teh lulz, I somehow fell in love with the damned thing
spiral robin
macos 
golden gust
I ain't booted windows in so long am dreading it
That's gonna be a horror show to say the least
Might do it one day before I go bed and just let it do its thing
brave radish
same actually, I have a tri boot and I've been dreading the day I have to turn Windows on one day and update
peak ginkgo
I've found superiority in just using only Windows
worn pasture
i use all three
potent fossil
quick someone whats the link to the thing when somebody is using offline mode and its the fbi raid
spiral robin
https://syscraft.org/fbi (this might not be it)
potent fossil
thank u bby'
spiral robin
coarse lily
warm anchor
That's never gonna get old xD
peak ginkgo
I think we as a community have enough "clout" to maintain an awesome-minecraft-hosts list
Or just build hosts into this
warm anchor
I support ^ if this means less shitty host. Some problems in #paper-help comes down to poopy host
peak ginkgo
Could literally drive summerhosts out of business
And it answers the "host recommendations" questions
waxen panther
that list is hard
the mc community is very... opinionated
compared to most communities
peak ginkgo
Precisely 
warm anchor
DeJay will personally fight any one who disagree on the list
golden gust
I will shit on DeJay's rug
upper flicker
what did we say about using the litter box
golden gust
Psh
mental meadow
.cat
limber knotBOT
muted storm
There are more efficient places to shit
muted storm
Like @ cat's shoes
golden gust
implying people need shoes in 2021
muted storm
Oh, right. My bad. No point in going outside, really 
true canyon
Must be nice to be able to work from home all the time! 😦
cosmic raft
@true canyon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJRDclzi5Vg&t=1m17s
upper flicker
I don't work anymore <:ToadEyes:673503938921758740>
would you like a job making me tacos
it's full time
I need a lot of tacos
true canyon
<@!71627708521512960> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJRDclzi5Vg&t=1m17s>
Yeah won't forget that any time soon.
cosmic raft
no
upper flicker
ok ok
muted storm
oh
upper flicker
here's what we'll do
if you make enough tacos that the quota is filled
any extra tacos are yours
muted storm
Sounds strenuous
mental meadow
i still have never ate a taco
upper flicker
👀
mental meadow
No
There's not really a place to get them
golden gust
I made my own when I was doing keto
mental meadow
And i was never motivated enough to make some
golden gust
It was, just, beautiful
mental meadow
Like we don't have taco bell or whatever
We don't even have pizza hut or dominos 😭
mental meadow
uwu
untold copper
so i heard there's a #hosts channel?
cosmic raft
and?
untold copper
whats it about, like does it just list the hosts?
cosmic raft
no
untold copper
host owner discussion?
golden gust
Imma have to try and make some at some point when am not dead
spare venture
obviously I wasn't talking to you
golden gust
I mean, I free-lance, pros and cons vs office style work
untold copper
online school sucks
spare venture
free lance I get that, but I meant a full time job
golden gust
going into a building to work has it's merits vs the place where you work is the same place that you chill down
At the same point, you're not traveling and have some better control over your own environment
spare venture
not just that, but you get to interact with people at work and make friends haha
golden gust
if you wanna turn your office space into a freezer, you can
spare venture
mhm
muted storm
I'm the type of person that would very much rather work from home
I'd take it any day
dull linden
if u work from home, no need to worry about travel times xd
coarse lily
I'm the type of person that would very much rather work from home
I've been more or less working from home for a long time. I generally prefer it.
spare venture
i'm already sick of just being at my house most of the time
and I'm not even working
muted storm
That's fair. Though I'm not at all a social person so at home is good for me lol
golden gust
I mean, it's the one pro of freelancing is that I can determine what suit am working for work
spare venture
my roommate is currently working from home and he hates it
yeah i consider myself a pretty social person
golden gust
between my birthday one and my general trousers
I gotta get some cargo pants, kinda miss them
spare venture
wtf
golden gust
lol
dull linden
at least no time limit so u can work on drawing skills xdd
spare venture
i just want to play stellaris without spending $100 for all of the dlc + base game 😢
muted storm
between my birthday one and my general trousers
spare venture
guess I'm gonna have to buy it
mental meadow
whats it about, like does it just list the hosts?
It's a channel for server hosting providers were we share things with them that might interest them
spare venture
75% off right now oh my
golden gust
dull linden
wheres the channel tho xd
mental meadow
Internal
spare venture
i was just going to say it probably doesn't concern you if you're not a host haha
mighty storm
I'm a host, chewhost boats 1% uptime and $100/gb/hour
Support is just me when I have free time
upper flicker
I'll take 7
spare venture
that gb better do a lot
mighty storm
It's uh
spare venture
like buy me dinner first
spare venture
why would you do that
golden gust
upper flicker
the running joke used to be we'd run your servers on a collection of overheating netbooks in my closet
couple hundred servers per host
normal shared hosting stuff
mighty storm
Of course I'll be using a custom panel
spare venture
yeah thats not really a joke, that's a reality
mighty storm
Built with absolutely no JavaScript
spare venture
"high performance undisclosed name enterprise grade CPU"
cunning raft
Premium CPU Core
mighty storm
I had my friend who works for a company that uses cloudflare enterprise grade my hardware
spare venture
Premium CPU Thread*
spare venture
thats not bad
sharp sentinel
Doesn't "enterprise grade hardware" imply it was a passing grade? 😛
upper flicker
enterprise grade means "it is used in an enterprise somewhere"
mighty storm
is d not a passing grade
upper flicker
not everywhere
sharp sentinel
C is the cutoff for passing here
spare venture
in the U.S., a 60% is passing
but in uni if you average below a 75%, you get kicked out
so it's kinda weird
mighty storm
for me, non core classes passing is D or grater, but for core classes (english, or whatever) are C for passing
spare venture
yeah courses that are prerequisites for others required us to get a 70% to move on
golden gust
D is the pass over here, basically
upper flicker
and look how cat turned out
spare venture
if you go under a 2.0 GPA (75% average), you get put on probation and then kicked out
mighty storm
yeah for me, english required a C but astronomy although I got a 69.4 i could still do semester 2 cus it didnt have any prerequisites
canvas called it a D and not an F so i was good
spare venture
nice
mighty storm
(they call it F to pay respects to your GPA)
sharp sentinel
In Uni we don't have letter gradings
We just have a numeric grade based on percentages
spare venture
letter grades are atrocious
golden gust
no E over here too
spare venture
ours is ABCDE
golden gust
F-DCBA/+
mighty storm
isnt that some girl
golden gust
Think that there's even a G
sharp sentinel
A 7 is the highest grade you can get, which is usually 90%+
spare venture
W is withdraw, I is incomplete, E is fail
golden gust
but, that's like "not submitted/you really fucked up"
mighty storm
We have a Z which essentially means you failed but it doesnt count against you gpa wise
spare venture
we had P/NP (pass, no pass), basically taking the course pass fail and it doesnt affect gpa
mighty storm
up to professors to decide when to give it out, essentially it's for someone who made an honest effort but still didnt make the cut
spare venture
i took a few P/NP in the spring because of covid
sharp sentinel
Our pass fail units affect GPA lol, so it's either raising or massively lowering a GPA (as they end up as 1 or 7)
mighty storm
so you could p/f a class you needed for another class
sharp sentinel
So if you fail a pass/fail with a GPA of 7, you're adding a 1 into the average and making it hella low
For pass/fail units, yes
mental meadow
We have 1 to 6, with 1 being the best and 6 being the worst
sharp sentinel
I mean you often don't get a choice
spare venture
wat
mighty storm
ah like UIL
sharp sentinel
I believe all the pass/fail units I did were core units
mighty storm
we had the choice of up to 2 classes
sharp sentinel
Australia
mighty storm
Gday m8
spare venture
i am learning that education is fucked up everywhere
thought it was mostly just us
mighty storm
us as in U.S. or where you are
spare venture
u.s.
mighty storm
ah
sharp sentinel
Worst part was the pass/fail units I did were all group assignments lol
mighty storm
(or both)
sharp sentinel
Although they marked the whole group - then weighted the mark by each persons contributions
mighty storm
bro covid nuked a group assignment for me in spring 2020 im so glad i dodged a bullet
sharp sentinel
So I passed them, but a friend of mine in my group for example failed
spare venture
i dont even know why the GPA system is on a 4 point scale. the difference between a 2.7 and a 3.0 is 0.01-1%, but it is drastically different if you look at the GPA...
spare venture
i dont get why it isn't just on a 100 point scale lol
sharp sentinel
Funniest part is the US and Australia GPA systems aren't equivalent - despite both using a scale. My 6.5 GPA in Aus ends up being 3.9 or whatever in the US system, whereas if you directly scale it out it should be 3.8
sharp sentinel
Australia scales everything equally, whereas the US one appears to be weighted based on year?
spare venture
the highest grade I got in one of my major classes was a B+ lol, rest were C- thru B
no it's all equal me
sharp sentinel
So first year classes have the same weighting on GPA as final year classes?
sharp sentinel
In that case the calculators I was given when I was applying for US jobs years back were wrong
spare venture
the grade is weighted by the number of credit hours the course is
but that's the only weighting
sharp sentinel
Hmm okay
spare venture
so an A in a 5 credit course is worth more than an A in a 2 credit course
sharp sentinel
Australia's courses do scale up based on "year" in terms of credit hours
So that may be why
But they weight equally here
mighty storm
back in high school we had "AP" and regular classes. The ap classes were weighted and tacked on 10 points to the gpa
sharp sentinel
Logic is just that for harder courses you're expected to put in more time
mighty storm
but if you got less than a 70 you still failed so whatever ig
spare venture
yeah our AP courses were on a 5 scale, so an A in an AP course meant you got a 5.0, and you just add it to your regular scale
which makes sense because getting a B in an AP course is probably somewhat equivalent to an A in a regular course
they don't want to penalize people for taking more rigorous courses
sharp sentinel
Wait y'all have a highschool GPA?
spare venture
mhm
its the same scale as uni, 4.0
although AP and honors courses usually are worth 5 points for an A instead of 4
Anyway my GPA sucked
sharp sentinel
Most of the reason my GPA wasn't awful was because I went into uni knowing the content already, I spent most of the time running a CompSci club and working on WorldEdit/etc
spare venture
Yeah I could’ve done better but I also wanted a social life, also my major was insanely difficult
Computer Science is weird, one of my friends says he hasn’t really learned much in uni and has amazing grades, says he already knew most of the stuff he was learning
mighty storm
one of the key reasons im not going to uni for comp sci
sharp sentinel
I mean that's going to be like anything that you've already been doing prior to uni
My majors (AI & Security) were super difficult, but when I was only doing one complex unit each semester (due to the core CS ones being stuff I already knew) it was pretty chill as I had a heap of time to spend on them
mighty storm
im goin for business, which hopefully will be useful
though google's certificates come out next month and the major im goin is there anyway
so like, bye uni ig 👋😂
spare venture
I had fluid mechanics, thermodynamics, differential equations, and separation processes (the hardest of the five), and a lab course all in one semester. That was a nightmare.
Most of my semesters were like that. I don’t miss it one bit
left swift
Hi simple 🥺
potent fossil
mana 🥺
i do not really want to read this chapter...
ok nvm its much less boring this chapter
this chapter is about neurons and the brain and not dead white men
void void
Hey! Is there anyone here that has ever worked as a SWE for like, the big phone service providers like T-Mobile, ATT, Etc
potent fossil
What is an SWE
void void
Software Engineer
merry talon
those companies don't really do that
potent fossil
Have not seen that acronym before, but nope
potent fossil
still a nope from me, im not sure any regulars in here are. i know most of them :p maybe some people who never talk are
void void
i know one dude i msgd hoping for a reply back
minor badge
I work on a huge codebase on a daily, but not for phone service provider
void void
for what
minor badge
casinos
void void
wdym by casinos?
minor badge
actual casinos
potent fossil
proxi is responsible for maintaining the systems that let people willingly lose all their money
minor badge
i work for a company that owns and operates casinos, both physical and online
potent fossil
big support
potent fossil
craigslist, facebook marketplace, etc
void void
is github the best platform for all that shit?
potent fossil
or in a college setting, they're just assigned
void void
like, i'm curious
potent fossil
post your own
merry talon
so you can be a creep
potent fossil
but yes, likely so they can be creeps
void void
do most companies use github for all their stuff or do they share them throughout git instances like maybe some on github, some on a self hosted gitlab, some on bitbucket
minor badge
we use only 1 platform, but a lot of companies vary
merry talon
yeah I guess I could post something lol
minor badge
some prefer GH on-premises, others GH enterprise cloud, others bitbucket
golden gust
Depends on the companies
It's not really sector specific
many places use GH, many use some similar only service, many are in house
minor badge
id assume most companies do github or bitbucket tho
golden gust
Like, you can still find companies using VCS
void void
what's the diff between GH on-premises and GH enterprise cloud
potent fossil
the bank I worked for (covered all of north america) just used what was then called TFS but err, since MS owns GH now they might be using GH on premise
merry talon
the on premises part
golden gust
ones hosted by github
the others hosted by the company somewhere
depends on your budget/requirements
potent fossil
my company was running far as fuck away from on-premises options tho. if cloud was offered they were eating it up
was a while ago tho
golden gust
letting somebody else deal with your internal repos is nice to save you having to employ staff specifically for that, but, now you're dealing with the potential security implications of having a 3rd party involved
But, for many companies, running from dated legacy in house solutions is the dream
minor badge
we prefer cloud too, simple; less effort maintaining when everyone needs it anyways
potent fossil
we had a few on premises software options but all the SMEs were retiring so the bank was like "um"
"fuck"
meager tusk
i don't
olive garden
I prefer not to create commands :dab:
golden gust
I'm not saying that playing yeetus deletus on broc would be the right thing to do
but, it would feel nice
void void
we had a few on premises software options but all the SMEs were retiring so the ...
What is a SME
golden gust
.g SME
limber knotBOT
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potent fossil
SME is Subject Matter Expert
potent fossil
the people who worked there who knew all about the on-premises installations
and they retired, so the bank had nobody who knew how to run them
so ran to the cloud
zealous wedge
training the next generation? who does that when you can outsource I guess
golden gust
I mean, it's generally a bunch of legacy tech anyways
Mini was telling us the joys of his company running away from some IBM based stuff or something
the availability of people who can maintain these stacks often only decreases meaning that the skills become super valuable and costly af to a company to hire somebody for that stack, which newer people coming onto the team from stuff like uni's, etc, ain't gonna be aware of
Surprised if more than a few % know much about git, etc
Like, my uni never taught anything about gradle or maven \o/
olive marlin
Imagine having university that teaches anything other than some few "core" concepts.
leaden oxideBOT
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olive garden
hey, at least they teach about 3 times as much maths as I would like
olive marlin
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