general

[twin lagoon]

.

[mossy vessel]

[potent fossil]

Nmf

[twin lagoon]

[mossy vessel]

[mental meadow]

Everyone hug

[mossy vessel]

[twin lagoon]

[woven otter]

no

[mental meadow]

dw duck you don't get a hug

You get bread

[quasi valley]

I’ll just throw an entire loaf of bread at duck

[mossy vessel]

🗡️

[limber knot]

hmm, is there any way besides configuring a firewall to make a server "invisible" such that it won't respond to pings/joins

[upper flicker]

all the best ways are networking related

so firewall, bind to some other interface

etc

you could check the source in the application and just ignore the request, but the server wont do that without editing it

[limber knot]

yea... one use case is to have it so I'm only blocking a certain account from using sus IPs (which means it won't be totally invisible, at least not at the first connect attempt)

basically wanna make it as if the server has crashed/not responding/etc.

to that particular person/IP

[potent fossil]

🤔

[limber knot]

gotta have a little fun with those that use vpns <:

[potent fossil]

fork and edit the packet responses for motd/login and check a banlist in there or smth, and if theyre on it just dont reply properly

or smth

[limber knot]

Yea, don't really wanna go that route, might as well play around with firewalls at that point ¯_(ツ)_/¯

RoboMWM: if you send stuff like hover events in the motd it will appear as if the server is offline without doing firewall stuff ;D

o?

what about PaperServerListPingEvent#setProtocolVersion

will -1 do stuff?

can't you just cancel that event lol

o

well

if you cancel it doesn't it return server.properties motd then

I don't think so?

I think it just times out because it wont answer

the hover event motd thing is actually a client-side bug lol

ah I see it in the javadocs, won't respond

(works with click events too iirc)

god I tried getting back into android development the last couple hours... managed to create a new project, then realise that it wont support androidx by default and try to upgrade it... and I didn't do shit regarding the actual functionality :S

I don't get why android studio wouldn't just create a modern project by default lol

[charred hornet]

what hosting service should i use

[limber knot]

depends

[charred hornet]

just want a place for friends, prob 10 people on at once

using paper

not many plugins/mods

[limber knot]

no idea then, I only know about dedicated servers lol

[potent fossil]

extravm, dedicatedmc, bloomhost are the main good ones these days

take a look

any of those are fine so just choose one you like

[limber knot]

just found out there is a "Migrate to AndroidX" tool in Android Studio, fml

[potent fossil]

tf is androidx

[limber knot]

the "new" android.support backwards compatibility library

[potent fossil]

@charred hornet so 10 players, how many plugins are we talking by "not many", and how big of a world, do you plan to use extreme farms etc

there are quite a few variables

[charred hornet]

1-2, i want to keep it pretty vanilla.

and farms

maybe, but not a lot of them and they wont be loaded a lot

[potent fossil]

world radius?

[charred hornet]

not far. erm, 20k?

[potent fossil]

that's a huge radius

[charred hornet]

not really xd huge is the default 2m

[potent fossil]

that's fine tho as long as it's not all loaded ig

https://extravm.com/minecraft.php i recommend the 6gb plan with aikar's flags

[charred hornet]

okay thanks!

[potent fossil]

when loading it on a server it is pretty huge, but as long as they are not all loaded then it should be ok

[tropic flame]

"oh welcome to the support server, what's wrong with our plugin and your SpongeForge server? please send me logs"

OptiFine is installed on the server

[limber knot]

lmao

[warm anchor]

You dont install Optifine on your server to boost performance? wow

[unborn jay]

Can an area full of chests and signs (shopping district) affect the tps?

[potent fossil]

depends what the chests are doing i guess

[olive garden]

button pls?

oh issues need titles

that sucks

[golden gust]

le sigh

ur dum

[olive garden]

love you too cat

[golden gust]

btw

shotgun bullets are bad for your health

[olive garden]

thank you for your life advice

but I was not planning on eating any

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bueFTrwHFEs

[olive garden]

hmm for some reason I grabbed my phone, but I forgot why

oh yeah I wanted to check whether I still got my 6 hours of sleep or whether that's a distant dream

[tropic flame]

ngl i once ran into a rare bug where the button wouldn't update from disabled to enabled

i had to edit the html just so I could make a commit through the browser because I had everything filled correctly but the button would stay grayed out lol

in your case though you're just dum LMAO

[olive garden]

thank you for the kind words

I guess everyone loves me here

[tropic flame]

oh

take it as a joke lmao

i don't even remember seeing you around here

how's life?

[golden gust]

trig

I hope you slip on a dildo

❤️

[olive garden]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I guess this is my life now

[woven otter]

hot

[clever widget]

i just ate some paper

[cunning raft]

[clever widget]

🤮

it was yummy

https://prnt.sc/xzwou7

toad DIES

[vestal jasper]

not even a funny troll

sad

[worn ember]

i once ate half a sheet of paper and couldnt shit for 4 days

[clever widget]

guess you didnt chew it well

[worn ember]

its the fibers man

[clever widget]

ive never had any issue

i eat paper all the time

[worn ember]

theres also paper made out of elephant poop btw

just so you know

[clever widget]

but wou would you want to discourage me from eating paper

[worn ember]

i love to see people suffer

its my kink

[clever widget]

kinky

[limber knot]

Guess you didn't what

[clever widget]

what

[limber knot]

Smh someone said chew

Actin like I wouldn't notice

[clever widget]

UwU

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

[waxen panther]

the trolls in paper get more boring every day

[zealous wedge]

yeah, be more interesting broc

[waxen panther]

working on it 😔

[modest path]

I'm wondering how the iirc connection works - is it a webhook? If so, how do they get the iirc users to show up as "BOT"?

[golden gust]

webhook

[mellow quiver]

irc btw

not iirc

[modest path]

no clue haha

[potent fossil]

@modest path look up discord webhook, that's how it works. it sends webhook requests

[neon wolf]

so

Anybody know good custom enchantments plugins?

[short yarrow]

What are your guys thoughts on a constructor throwing an exception? I didn't know that was a controversial thing

[long sleet]

Golden Enchants

[potent fossil]

@short yarrow what's wrong with that

if an error occurs such that the object can no longer be constructed, that's the best place to throw an exception

[merry talon]

@cosmic raft have you used this?

looks.. interesting

not that I need it

[cosmic raft]

@merry talon what is it

[merry talon]

KOHO

its a... credit building subscription

you don't have to do anything apparently

I just verified my account since they have a new method that worked

[rugged oar]

hello I'm new

[potent fossil]

basically all that is, is a savings account with required monthly contributions, and they report to the credit bureaus each month and if you paid then its good job have some cronchy credit score

[potent fossil]

hi new, i'm simple

[rugged oar]

ok

[merry talon]

how can $7 have much impact though?

Also

I don't see where the $225 plays in

[potent fossil]

the point isnt the amount you pay, it's that you pay according to the agreement

your credit score is a measure of your trustworthiness

[merry talon]

right

I suppose if my credit limit is $10k or $300 and I pay it back it makes no difference

[potent fossil]

Yeah, I mean, this seems like it's more to help you get started or repair a damaged score

If you already have one, then you prob don't need it

[merry talon]

yeah

but do multiple lines of credit reporting good things increase it faster?

[potent fossil]

But it'd probably get you from having no credit (i.e. this would be your first credit ever) to getting your first real credit cards

[potent fossil]

yes

[merry talon]

I see

[potent fossil]

they like to see more accounts, all reporting good things, and it's even better if they're old

but also

they don't want to see too many accounts opened at the same time because then they think you're desperate and your score drops

lmao

[merry talon]

kek

mine likes to drop by a few points totally at random even though I've never missed a payment

idk what's up with that

[potent fossil]

they might have tweaked the equation slightly or something

[visual egret]

finally decided to wake up early

7am moment

[waxen panther]

am going to bed now

[rugged oar]

I have no idea how to make a server on https://papermc.io/

[visual egret]

download the server

put it into a folder

create a script to open it with https://startmc.sh

open up the script

ez

@rugged oar

[rugged oar]

ok thx @visual egret

[worn pasture]

lol did you think it was a server host

[rugged oar]

kinda XD

what do I put in RAM allocation

[visual egret]

however much ram you want to allocate

for example

3G

[rugged oar]

I want 4GB

do I just type 4G

[visual egret]

yeah

[rugged oar]

ok thx

and my server jar file is
server.jar

what do I do with 💾 Copy your start script

[visual egret]

you are on windows, right?

[rugged oar]

yes

[visual egret]

in the same folder where you put your server.jar, create a new file start.bat

then right click -> edit

copy paste the thing

press enter

type in pause on the next line

and save it

[rugged oar]

then open start.bat

[visual egret]

yup

[rugged oar]

alright

[visual egret]

it should start complaining about eula.txt

[rugged oar]

mine it says pause and that is it

it say press any key to continue

[untold copper]

@visual egret ur fat

[visual egret]

NO U

[rugged oar]

ok now what do I do

[untold copper]

yes you

[visual egret]

@rugged oar open up eula.txt

[rugged oar]

or can some someone send me a video

[visual egret]

and set eula=true

and you should have a server

[rugged oar]

ok

[visual egret]

just join through localhost

[twin lagoon]

@viral hornet already lost my jabras

[viral hornet]

bruh

[twin lagoon]

one of them fell out on the ground next to my bus stop and you cant see fucking shit with a facemask and glasses

[viral hornet]

[green edge]

get a KN95

or N95

And it won't fog your glasses

because it seals better

[twin lagoon]

effort

[viral hornet]

Can you go back and look?

[twin lagoon]

im already in my bus lol

gotta check back in 3 hours

[viral hornet]

bruh I woulda MISSED that bus

[rugged oar]

@visual egret can you send me a video it is still not working

[viral hornet]

Hopefullly you find it, I can't imagine it being very noticable though.

[visual egret]

what isnt working

send a screenshot

[twin lagoon]

it fell in grass probably

so thats gonna be fun

[viral hornet]

Just buy a rake

and comb that fucking lawn

[rugged oar]

I will send a screenshot when I open start.bet

[visual egret]

no

[rugged oar]

what

[visual egret]

you are meant to open the batch file

[twin lagoon]

else, guess ill die

[viral hornet]

michael

We will make a gofundme xoxo

[rugged oar]

I meant that sorry

[visual egret]

ah ok

[plucky canopy]

lol

[visual egret]

send screenshot

[rugged oar]

ok

[plucky canopy]

eula always tripping people up huh

[green edge]

eula is way more lenient now

i've had one client get mailed by mojang

they threatened to blacklist

sent 3 emails

got no response

no blacklist

[rugged oar]

look

[plucky canopy]

why dont they just change the tos so you agree with eula once you download a version of mc

[green edge]

because it doesn't matter @plucky canopy

i don't think they care that much

[plucky canopy]

@rugged oar you may have to add a location for the paper.jar

unless im wrong

[green edge]

if they did it would't be possible to bypass the blacklist

[visual egret]

is the jar file in the same folder as the bat file

[rugged oar]

yes it is

[plucky canopy]

and you're sure its spelled correctly?

[visual egret]

send screenshot of windows explorer in that folder

[rugged oar]

yup

ok

[zealous wedge]

#paper-help

and what did you expect to happen? you're trying to execute a jar that doesn't exist

[visual egret]

the file you have is called server.jar

and you are trying to open paper-(ver).jar

[spiral robin]

Zml

[limber knot]

aber!!!!!

[rugged oar]

wait

[plucky canopy]

lmao

sorry, i dont mean to be rude

[rugged oar]

can someone send me a video about it

[plucky canopy]

but like,

okay all you need to do is download a version of paper

[limber knot]

you don't need a video, you just need to know how to read

[visual egret]

^

[plucky canopy]

and then set the parameter to start the server as the same name as the jar file you downloaded

@rugged oar https://papermc.io/downloads

[rugged oar]

I dont get it like this so pls someone send me a video

[visual egret]

🤔 since when did they include the version name in the download

(1.16.5)

[rugged oar]

wait it made a folder

[visual egret]

👏 you decided to read 👏

[rugged oar]

it is called cache

XD

[plucky canopy]

What I had to do was launch the vanilla minecraft server jar to build the server, then stop, accept the eula.txt, and restart using the paper.jar to patch it

Should be relatively simple

@rugged oar If you desperately need help, ill go to vc with you and you can screenshare. but you should be able to get it if you follow the instructions carefully

[rugged oar]

I will send you what that folder looks like now

[plucky canopy]

alright

[spiral robin]

If you're having this hard a time setting up the server I would think twice before continuing ngl

[plucky canopy]

Yeah it only gets worse from here chief

sorry to tell you 👀

[rugged oar]

nice

[olive garden]

that's why I don't get this startmc or whatever website

if they can't modify Xms and Xmx themselves....

[plucky canopy]

add -nogui to the end if you wanna not see that screen @rugged oar

[spiral robin]

It's not so much that, it's more of teaching people what the flags mean

[plucky canopy]

wack, pebblehost is the same way, you have to buy the extreme plan to adjust jvm params, which sucks

[visual egret]

yeah it actually explains the flags pretty well

[rugged oar]

do I now just do localhost???

[visual egret]

yup

connect to localhost

[plucky canopy]

bad joke

[rugged oar]

on which file

[plucky canopy]

your start file

edit it

add -nogui after paper.jar

[rugged oar]

start.bat???

[visual egret]

before pause*

[plucky canopy]

si senor

[visual egret]

yes of course start.bat

what else

[plucky canopy]

lol the other start file

nah im just messing

[visual egret]

spigot people are smart

[plucky canopy]

I use start.sh bc im cool

[olive garden]

yeah, I guess the explanations are cool, but without extra information most of this means nothing to most people

[rugged oar]

there are like a bilion files

and how do I stop the server????

or close it

[plucky canopy]

if you have access to console, (which idk why you wouldnt), just run the command /stop

[olive garden]

The explanation for XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget is wrong btw

and text is hidden by the footer

[plucky canopy]

@rugged oar you can also just run /stop on the server if you're on

[rugged oar]

ok

[visual egret]

@limpid comet

[rugged oar]

if I want my friends to join what do I do

[plucky canopy]

frick

[rugged oar]

what

[plucky canopy]

you're gonna have to go through the process of opening ports on your router and firewall

which is a pretty complicated process if you dont know what you're doing

and im assuming you may not, considering this is your first time

[rugged oar]

oh god

[plucky canopy]

I'd say look up some vids on it but go slowly

[visual egret]

its easy, but depending on your ISP it can quickly go sour

[plucky canopy]

for instance my isp's router login page looks like it was made in 1985

with zero CSS styling in sight

[visual egret]

sky is pretty easy to use, cyfrowy polsat (in poland) is also semi-easy to use

[rugged oar]

I did the /stop

than opended again now it is not doing tha same thing

as that time]

[visual egret]

oh i see why ur struggling so much

ur a child

[plucky canopy]

f

[rugged oar]

not really

[visual egret]

you shouldnt leave your yt linked if you dont want people to hear your voice o_o

[plucky canopy]

oop

[rugged oar]

ohh

[viral hornet]

Oskar don't be rude

You're also literally a child

[rugged oar]

lol

[visual egret]

but i can read

messages on discord

[plucky canopy]

my man has been playing minecraft for a whole day

[rugged oar]

@visual egret it is ok

[plucky canopy]

I like ya cut G

[rugged oar]

ahhh

ouch

[plucky canopy]

If you're rlly struggling there's also always MCMyAdmin

its not the greatest but it is a help for people new to hosting a server

[visual egret]

heh

ive been working on my own server software for ages now

[plucky canopy]

oh fr?

freeware? 👀

[rugged oar]

maybe one day

XD

[visual egret]

private

[plucky canopy]

dang

you should fork it and make it open source if it's successful

or even if it isnt successful actually

[visual egret]

nah its completley new

[plucky canopy]

ah

cool

[visual egret]

it can control machines, etc

[plucky canopy]

jvm?

or like, other virtual machines

[visual egret]

im trying to automate everything

right now it can control tmux and WOL

[plucky canopy]

oh snap

you wanna build a whole sentient being then huh

or you could make the ultimate unix frankenstein

what're you gonna use it for

[visual egret]

mc network

[plucky canopy]

cool

why you need multiple machines tho

each running a different bungeecord setup or sm?

[visual egret]

all running paper/purpur on backends and velocity on frontend

[plucky canopy]

ah

interesting

[visual egret]

its also a kind of modified version of velocity

i asked a dev to include combat snapshot support

[olive garden]

WSL is weird

[visual egret]

yeah it is

[olive garden]

I managed to log in twice using the same MC client

[visual egret]

wat

[plucky canopy]

lmAo

what does that even mean

oh

[olive garden]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[plucky canopy]

look different port

for..some...reason

[visual egret]

thats how

it works...

[plucky canopy]

hm?

im confused

he logged in from two different ports

[olive garden]

Yes, that's normal

[plucky canopy]

wait wh at

[olive garden]

these ports are basically chosen at random

[untold copper]

yes happens sometimes

cos minecraft nub

[plucky canopy]

fr?

wait

oh client side?

[visual egret]

this is from before my IP changed

[plucky canopy]

the server port is the same I assume

and the client connects via a different port each time

[magic river]

TCP ports are always random on the client side, the 25565 is just the server

[plucky canopy]

gotcha

okok that makes sense

was confusing myself

[magic river]

a TCP connection is identified by the combination of server IP:port and client IP:port

[plucky canopy]

right

i just assumed the computer assigned a port to a service for a while, and flushed every day, restart, etc.

but I assume that's inefficient

like DHCP

[magic river]

Also time to DDoS @olive garden

[plucky canopy]

hahhAh

was thinking the same thing like

[visual egret]

what?

[plucky canopy]

uhm okay show me all your ports

[visual egret]

i literally said my ip changed lol

[olive garden]

that's not my outside IP :)

[plucky canopy]

f

[olive garden]

so good luck with that

it's some sort of Windows-WSL internal IP

it keeps changing too :(

[visual egret]

🤔

[plucky canopy]

kids be like, 624.4131.213.-5 Look familiar?

[olive garden]

I can't even use localhost/127.0.0.1 to connect to my own server, I have to keep changing the IP

[magic river]

Oh, right, that's one of the private internal ranges

[vernal moth]

Yeah wsl changing ip is annoying

They wanna fix that iirc

I remember some discussion about that

[magic river]

10/8, 192.168/16, and 172.16/12

WSL2 was supposed to pretend to be the same network as your host system

Guess that didn't land

Like, you could connect to it via localhost and other computers could just use your host IP without any extra work and Linux would think it controlled your host IP

[plucky canopy]

oop

[magic river]

You could use bridge mode instead, then WSL2 will get its own IP from your router's DHCP server and look like you have a separate machine on the network

[olive garden]

that solution sounds like a "solution" that creates more issues and headaches than the issue it fixes lol

[magic river]

I don't know about you but I have my DHCP server configured to only give out a part of the range then have fixed IPs on my desktop and, when I was trying to use it, my little SBC

[visual egret]

heh

[olive garden]

I don't like complicated stuff

nor do I work in the telecommunications section

[magic river]

I geek out on this stuff

Also I technically help run an ISP

[vernal moth]

Your router is a dhcp server

And easily allows you to give out static IPs based on mac address, shouldn't be hard to statically assign an IP to wsl2 in bridge mode

And for bonus points, you can add a nice name to your hosts file

[magic river]

Not worth the effort to have a switch, access points, and separate gateway

Oh, I thought you were shaming me for using consumer gear 😛

I don't think most routers let you give out a static IP via DHCP

iirc they usually try to avoid giving out an IP to a different MAC until a reboot though so they kind of automatically do it

It just changes every time your router shits itself and has to be power cycled

...so like once a day then 😄

[olive garden]

just checked, mine can

I could set static IPs with my previous, ISP-provided router as well

[rugged oar]

why is my server not opening??????

[olive garden]

not sure whether that was via DHCP or something else though

it had to be DHCP

right?

[magic river]

If it was letting you put in a MAC and an IP it was configuring DHCP to reserve addresses for specific devices

[olive garden]

nice

so in that case we Hungarians might just be spoiled or idk, but I have never seen a router that didn't support static IPs via DHCP

[rugged oar]

help

[olive garden]

(spoiled with these chinese routers lol)

[rugged oar]

why is my server not opening??????

[plucky canopy]

hah

leet

[plucky canopy]

yo what do you mean

[magic river]

Oh yeah I think most EU gear is decent compared to the US

[plucky canopy]

pls provide some information other than ???

it doesn't help anyone

[magic river]

.halp

[plucky canopy]

including yourself

[limber knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555469074080202765/561287494075678721/image0.png

[rugged oar]

all the files are here but I cant join it

[plucky canopy]

LMAO

[rugged oar]

I opened the start.bat file thing

[plucky canopy]

wdym you cant join

mhm

[rugged oar]

this is the command prompt Press any key to continue . . .

[plucky canopy]

mhm

continue pls

[rugged oar]

ok

I did

[plucky canopy]

and?

[rugged oar]

wait

[quasi valley]

#paper-help

and you might as well look at another server setup tutorial if whatever you looked at before didn't help enough

[rugged oar]

ok

[vernal moth]

I get proper avm gear here by my ISP, and they have to allow me to use my own router if I want, they have to give me all creds and stuff

Pro consumer laws are nice ^^

[olive garden]

not sure about the laws, but I get the same options here as well

ISP's router worked fine until it didn't: for some reason my VPN connections were limited to like 4Kb/s

worked fine until it didn't

[visual egret]

Help

My computer froze

[quasi valley]

put it in the oven to warm it up

[visual egret]

And I have an unsaved premiere pro project

[quasi valley]

not hitting ctrl+s every 3 seconds when using adobe products

[visual egret]

Smh

[magic river]

No video playback for me, thanks

[visual egret]

What do I do

[olive garden]

embrace it

[visual egret]

Ctl alt del isn’t working

Whatever

Hopefully auto save works

[quasi valley]

turn on your heaters to make it warm

[visual egret]

:(

adobe is on drugs

[quasi valley]

I unplugged my alexa for just about a day because I moved my desk and all of the sudden I get an email from amazon telling me to go over data security settings / telling me how well it treats my data

[visual egret]

no idea why they would send that kind of email

[quasi valley]

so that I plug it in again hahaha

[ashen cliff]

And you did.

[visual egret]

driver update screenshots are weird

[quasi valley]

not yet. unless it's peak coincidence, they tell me how well they treat my data by using my data to see whether alexa is currently used or not

[ashen cliff]

Anyway, I just came here to remind everyone eatmydata is amazing and you should use it.

[quasi valley]

what's that

[ashen cliff]

https://manpages.debian.org/testing/eatmydata/eatmydata.1.en.html

[visual egret]

FUCK

ITS ALL GONE

[ashen cliff]

So I went from 99%, to 0%.
https://posili.me/i/2021-02-02_10-19-12.png

Since yeah, syncing.

[magic river]

https://lwn.net/Articles/842385/

[ashen cliff]

5.10

And you usually care about the FS, but might not care about one applications data.

[magic river]

The problem is that fsync() on ext4 is the same as doing a full sync on the disk, this change makes it so that in certain situations (to be expanded on in future updates) that isn't the case and it only syncs the relevant bits

It's actually still syncing too much because it turns out some applications are poorly written and only work on ext4 because they depend on this full sync happening

But it still does it much faster, 20-200% performance boost in benchmarks

[ashen cliff]

Want to know how it compares to just using eatmydata, since that just disregards everything.

[magic river]

xfs certainly doesn't do this full sync so you could also speed things up by using that instead

[ashen cliff]

Wonder how tmpfs handles fsync().

[vernal moth]

.wa 7 central time to german time

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: 2:00:00 pm CET | Tuesday, February 2, 2021 - https://is.gd/KOIJB4

[vernal moth]

Wen hop soon!

Most likely in the morning

So afternoon on this side of the pond

[untold copper]

face reveal wen

[visual egret]

wen windows is gud

so never

[untold copper]

not hitting ctrl+s every 3 seconds when using any computer application

[visual egret]

working on smp trailer smh

[untold copper]

what mod o.O

[visual egret]

replay mod

[untold copper]

ohk

[visual egret]

(epilepsy warning) when replay mod crashes lol

[ashen cliff]

Better make that epilepsy warning bold.

[untold copper]

lolf

[visual egret]

Its kinda weird how whenever i open explorer i can just hear my hard drive slowly turn on

[ashen cliff]

That's normal, since you have disk sleep enabled.

[twin lagoon]

@viral hornet i found my lost earbud

[viral hornet]

[twin lagoon]

it fell on concrete and madew it's way into the grass or something

spot the earbud :^)

[viral hornet]

Epic, really glad you found em lol

Was it in there

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon awa

[viral hornet]

[twin lagoon]

it's in the center

now imagine that when it's dark (it fell at like 8:30 in the morning)

https://owo.whats-th.is/AfQ2We5.png there's a nice dent top left

but it does work so

[limber knot]

you should put something like a string to it so you don't loose it again

[plucky canopy]

i'd like to think linus is buying a pc as a replacement for his wife

[viral hornet]

But then it's not wireless

It's Stringed Earbuds

[limpid comet]

@olive garden pr better descriptions to startmc

[twin lagoon]

ngl got depressed when i looked up the price for a new pair of earbuds thinking i wouldn't be able to find it

they're a lot more expensive than i thought

in other news, https://twitter.com/Scaleway/status/1356523291842924544

Scaleway (@Scaleway)

Scaleway introduces Apple silicon #M1 as-a-Service, a first in Europe!
Get the fully native macOS Big Sur experience running on the lightning-fast Mac mini M1 for €0.10/hour. 🚀 https://t.co/W9GtgE8JO7

Likes

136

▶ Play video

Twitter · Feb 2, 2021, 8:42 AM

[ashen cliff]

🤔

I assume they just stole a whole truck of them.

[twin lagoon]

https://owo.whats-th.is/5dd1y7s.png

[ashen cliff]

What's the MSRP of the M1 mini?

I see all Apple fans are currently dead.

.g Mac mini M1 MSRP No Scam No EU

Around 241 days, to get ROI.

That's not that bad.

[vernal moth]

Ignoring all other cost, lol

Need to add the whole cooling, energy, connection, support cost on top of that

[ashen cliff]

They are sooooooooooooooooo power efficient we can just ignore all that.

0 heat, no heatsinks needed.

Trust me on that one.

[coarse lily]

Yeah I love my M1

I have it on my desk next to my Intel i7 Mini and it's MUCH cooler to the touch.

Kinda neat.

[limber knot]

if I want a cooler on my desk I just get a beer from my fridge

runs

[ashen cliff]

Just buy AyyMD in that case.

Absolute zero°C beer.

[olive marlin]

I feel like every time I install some JS tool, it takes ages and spams tens of deprecation warnings.

[limpid comet]

that's how the ecosystem goes

[olive marlin]

Vue-cli depends on 1391 packages wtf.

[twin lagoon]

@olive marlin

[olive marlin]

@twin lagoon

[topaz mortar]

npm (node package manager) is more like ndm (node deprecation manager).

[limpid comet]

@twin lagoon

[limber knot]

ok so hear me out guys, I have an awesome plugin idea: you know how there are stock market plugins where you can trade on made up/real stocks with ingame money? now how about a plugin where you trade real stocks for real money? :D

all from an EXTREMELY CONVENIENT inventory GUI interface!

[limpid comet]

robincraft?

[zealous wedge]

can't be much worse than any other economy plugin

[limber knot]

another cool idea: a vault economy provider which hooks into Payapl

*paypal lol

[limpid comet]

sounds like a bad idea. how will the server owners scam their players if the players are already scamming eachother?

[untold copper]

ah yes, buy your happiness now!1!!1!

[olive marlin]

Server owners take 30% cut from all transactions?

[limber knot]

just route it through your own merchant platform and take a cut of each transaction ;D

[limpid comet]

that's better

[olive marlin]

The vuejs workshop I'm in sucks so much... I probably would be better off just trying to learn it myself.

[limpid comet]

vue is easy to learn youreslf

[ashen cliff]

MFW someone in SI had a server where you could buy ingame "crypto" to trade with.

[limpid comet]

SI?

[vernal moth]

Even the old ppl in my team got the basics you need in a few days

[ashen cliff]

Slovenia.

[limpid comet]

ohh

[limber knot]

ingame crypto? wat

[ashen cliff]

Again, out whole community is build upon scamming the same people over and over again.

[limpid comet]

regarding vue; if you have the knowledge of how basic websites work without no framework (you've written html, css, and a bit of js) you'll pick up vue instantly

well, maybe not instantly

but very quickly

[ashen cliff]

Just virtual coins, they called it crypto.

[limber knot]

pretty sure there is a good chunk of servers doing that lol

when dogecoin was blowing up I played on one that had 1:1 ingame currency to dogecoin conversion, that was fun (and didn't last long lol)

but the owner actually properly cached out stuff and didn't run away when it ended so that was nice

[ashen cliff]

They didn't use it as ingame currency. Just as an addition currency to gamble ingame.

You couldn't trade it, just blow it on fancy GUIs.

[limber knot]

pretty sure there is several plugins on spigot which add altcoins and trading and shit lol

[olive marlin]

I haven't touched it in a long time, I haven't written any website from scratch, only modified existing ones.

[twin lagoon]

@limpid comet

[limber knot]

sounds like you should start at the basics: do a html-only site

runs

[olive marlin]

Fortunately someone in my community decided to nuke our whole website and write it from scratch in Vue.

I can write some basic stuff, but can't do styling and shit.

[limpid comet]

honestly phoenix has a point. i'd recommend making a basic website to learn html/css/js just to get the idea, then move on to frameworks

just so you know how it's all working under the hood

[ashen cliff]

Might also find out that writing your own framework works for you.

It's what I did and it's actually epic.

[olive marlin]

I understand some stuff, doesn't make me not absolutely horrible when it comes to styling etc.

If we didn't have the Vue workshop at work, I wouldn't be learning it rn.

[limpid comet]

i cannot stop listening to these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAMy56vkdi8

shit hits different

[fair blade]

when 1.13 was released, a lot of people stayed on 1.12 and when 1.14 was released, it was used way more than 1.13 @meager tusk

or at least if felt like that when you talked with people on servers

[ashen cliff]

I know someone who started a 1.15 server... after 1.16.3 was releases because 1.15 was according to them "more stable".

[meager tusk]

thats dumb

[ashen cliff]

I told them. No regret till all the dupes and crashes showed up.

Now they have 1.16 with 1.15 nether.

[left swift]

1.14 was hype cuz the new villager changes and also ppl started watching it on YouTube again

[limber knot]

lmao

[vernal moth]

It also wasn't a big jump (altho it was a terrible release, the worse we had for a long time)

[topaz mortar]

Martin, Parker (Choco) has started with the material modernizations.
https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/pull-requests/576/overview

[cosmic raft]

go to sleep @zealous wedge!!!

[zealous wedge]

ugh im trying :(

got a meeting in 4hrs and 45 minutes too

[quasi valley]

not trying hard enough if you're on discord

[zealous wedge]

my phone is right here

[quasi valley]

see, not trying hard enough... 😂

hello kazheek

[cosmic raft]

hi

[zealous wedge]

someone come bonk me on the head until I pass out

[quasi valley]

[mossy vessel]

We can arrange that 🔨

[zealous wedge]

pls do fast

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-bongo-cat-hit-head-cat-hat-girl-gif-15558946

[quasi valley]

?mute zml 3h do slep slep

[zealous wedge]

oof that is flashy

[cosmic raft]

uwu @zealous wedge

[zealous wedge]

uwu :3

[vernal moth]

I know, we were discussing it already

M parents delivered my piano

Successfully traded my piano with my keyboard, my sister is pissed 😂

[limber knot]

lol

also why are you doxing yourself?

[vernal moth]

So you can come over and deliver my pizza

[limber knot]

👀

[minor badge]

omw

[vernal moth]

Pretty sure half this channel knows my exact position, lol

[topaz mortar]

I'm in the other half.

[olive garden]

let me enlighten you, he's in Germany

[vernal moth]

That window is looking towards Klettenbergpark in cologne, have fun on google maps

[zealous wedge]

exactly in Germany

[topaz mortar]

[vernal moth]

It's almost perfectly southwards

[olive garden]

are you sure this is a good idea?

people can get you blacklisted from all takeaways if they know your address

[limber knot]

well that was easy

[olive garden]

not takeaways, I meant food deliveries

[vernal moth]

If they don't have anything else to do

[limber knot]

I would've prefered it if you didn't post the park/direction. would've been more of a challenge :S

[vernal moth]

It's about 235 in my range

[olive garden]

well, someone got pissed at wiz and they did dig stuff up...

[vernal moth]

This is germany, not the US

[olive garden]

or was it all from his linkedin? idk, doesn't matter I guess

[cunning raft]

all personal data is GPLv3 in Germany

[limber knot]

it's actually EUPL ;P

[cunning raft]

lmfao how is that real

[olive garden]

how do I make these PR icons appear?

[cunning raft]

there's a section on issues to link a pr

[vernal moth]

Most likely the better github browser extension?

Oh

Yeah that first

[cunning raft]

they get linked automatically with the Closes or Fixes keywords

[limber knot]

yeah, there are a couple commit message/PR title keywords

[cunning raft]

right

[left swift]

Get mini blacklisted from deliveries he cant get pizza anymore D:

[olive garden]

it ain't showing the PR icon though

[cunning raft]

link me to pr?

nvm found it

ah okay so you put the keyword in the commit, that won't work

for some reason it didn't pick up the keyword in your pr title

just put Fixes #4962 in the description

should work

[vernal moth]

Because you don't have authority to do close issues

[olive garden]

wait

nvm

[limber knot]

so much for continuing my joke https://is.paper.sexy/gbFFGyoJ.png ;_;

[vernal moth]

Do you know which door tho?

[limber knot]

pretty sure, yeah

[olive garden]

Thanks JRoy, editing the description indeed fixed it :)

[vernal moth]

If you wanna send me pizza, donate to my gh sponsors ^^

[limber knot]

they don't take bitcoin/crypto

[spice finch]

nice domain phoenix 😳

[limber knot]

;D

[visual egret]

excuse me what

how was it not simple enough

[cunning raft]

that's a shit answer

[ashen cliff]

There is only 1 correct thing to do with that post.

https://posili.me/i/2021-02-02_15-22-53.png

[limber knot]

yeah, you include no artifact id or step by step guide smh

[left swift]

We found oskars new name report for ban evasion

[ashen cliff]

No bully.

StackOverflow people will do that for us.

[visual egret]

im giving epic advice

such as use adventure instead of the shit that comes with spigot

[wide chasm]

SO is toxic, what did you expect

But the answer is pretty bad too

[golden gust]

Yea, SO is pretty meh, but, like, your answer is trash tier

The expectation of SO is generally that you like, actually provide a fully fledged answer bordering on hand holding

[limber knot]

oof, android is annoying. gotta love how I'm stuck on the light/dark theme setting instead of implementing actual functionality 👀 https://is.papr.best/fYsDxuc1.png

[cunning raft]

heh

that's only if you're supporting < 10

[limber knot]

yes

[visual egret]

heh

but most android devices arent updated a lot

[cunning raft]

what do you want android to do in that case phoenix? :p

[limber knot]

make money :P

[visual egret]

phoenix interesting domain

👀

[cunning raft]

second time someone has said that

[visual egret]

when was the first time

[limber knot]

it's almost as if my sharex is selecting different domains on every upload 👀

[cunning raft]

oh thought it was the same one

u got too many domains

[limber knot]

yes

[visual egret]

damn

sharex actually works

now imagine sharex features with win+shift+s

[limber knot]

what does that do?

[visual egret]

try it

and see

[limber knot]

doesn't do anything

great

nice feature

[visual egret]

snipping tool

but easy

and quick

[limber knot]

you mean like ctrl + print in sharex?

[visual egret]

yeah

but it looks nicer

[limber knot]

wat

who cares about that?

[visual egret]

uwp looks nicer

[limber knot]

yeah and its shit

is the windows tool able to automatically capture window regions?

[visual egret]

it can capture windows

but not regions inside windows

[limber knot]

I'll put it onto my "why sharex is better" list for the next discussion, thanks :P

ha I got it working :D

[limpid comet]

sharex is pog

Shame there's nothing as capable on linux

[limber knot]

sharenix is a good attempt of a port lol

[limpid comet]

Flameshot is close but it's not as feature complete as sharex

[limber knot]

yeah, flameshot is what I would use on linux, it has everything what I really need (besides custom uploaders I think?)

but that's easy to automate

[worn ember]

Just use the image util mod

[visual egret]

just write your own OS, prioritising image sharing above all else

[left swift]

Just use email

[limber knot]

it works https://phoenix616.dev/📷/fZcIsg6q.mp4 :D (besides the dark theme not being finished xD)

[leaden prawn]

Is that an emoji in a URL? As a sysadmin, this intrigues and infuriates me.

[visual egret]

yeah

[stray forge]

Donde esta la comunidad latina? ❤️

[visual egret]

its common here

not here right now❤️

this is the papermc community ❤️

[stray forge]

Well, I look for Latinos who are in the community

[limber knot]

you know what is efen more infuriating? this: https://📷.phoenix616.dev/fZcIsg6q.mp4

*even wtf

I think I should get something to eat lol

[worn ember]

No

You'll get fat and die

[limber knot]

I think you die if dou don't eat too

[limpid comet]

test out this theory of yours

[wheat quarry]

oof, apparently the bridge auto-translates the domain? :S or is that discord? https://📷.phoenix616.dev/

yeah, it's discord. meh

[limpid comet]

boring

[wheat quarry]

rip emojis in tlds

[wide chasm]

Wow, it's Discord phoenix

[limber knot]

oofno

[meager tusk]

or just use react native

[left swift]

Eat and die or no eat and die

Might aswell eat good and die happy

[meager tusk]

yea just a lot earlier

[cunning raft]

what app you makin phoenix

[left swift]

Some might say that's a win/win

[untold copper]

all jokes aside, have you actually ever tried to listen to never gonna give you up?

its a good song

[warm anchor]

Snoopa I can’t get used to your new pfp can you go back to Minecraft face

[untold copper]

uh

ok

done @warm anchor

[left swift]

Wait what was it before go back to ur new pfp

[warm anchor]

@left swift

@untold copper actually if you like the new one don’t change. Now I felt bad

[olive marlin]

I didn't knew I needed it, but now I need it.
https://www.cronkshawfoldfarm.co.uk/goatsonzoom

I wonder what meeting I could go away by using this

[next frost]

there's an alpaka farm in Germany doing the same

[left swift]

Ya u should ur a monster forcing snoopa to do that smh

[limpid comet]

@warm anchor protip: compact mode

[warm anchor]

But then how do I see your epic profile @limpid comet

[limpid comet]

Feels epic knowing there's an emoji of me in an eternity private server

[warm anchor]

[tropic flame]

question from someone who doesn't know a lot of this: why do all imports become wildcard ones when you decompile a Java app?

or is this something that's decompiler-specific? Luyten/Procyon and CFR seem to do this

[olive marlin]

I wouldn't be surprised if Java compiled to wildcards in byte code tbh. Since then it's more compact, right?

[untold copper]

eh its fine

[olive marlin]

And if you have some specific imports, they get dealt with by the import order iirc.

But, I know nothing about Java.

[tropic flame]

I'd figure that would make a lot of imports ambiguous in bytecode though, no?

[limpid comet]

Can't believe eternity would destroy an 11 year old like that

[visual egret]

who

[warm anchor]

Wdym I do that daily in Dota

[limpid comet]

Oskar, there's only two 11 year olds here

You and snoopa

[visual egret]

snoopa is 11

weir

d

i thought they were older

[spiral robin]

Hello

[limpid comet]

Aber hi omg

[warm anchor]

Aber

[spiral robin]

[visual egret]

helo all

[limpid comet]

Someone made a premium itemtrak

[visual egret]

also bluely im looking through all of your plugins

they are all great

[limpid comet]

All 3 of them

Thank you

[visual egret]

wait

ur website went down again

smh

[limpid comet]

Yes

Me and 2 friends r gonna split on a juiced dedi

So I can have a real place to put sites

(and buildsevrrs and javadocs pogger)

[visual egret]

google cloud micro instance

[limpid comet]

Ew no

5950x for like 6 websites

[ashen cliff]

Now tell me. Where did you find a 5950X dedicated machine?

[visual egret]

lunar client moment

[spare venture]

I don’t even know what that means

[limpid comet]

KubaZyg

[visual egret]

we dont speak about that

[spiral robin]

Same

[limpid comet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9QBRTlkpiU

[visual egret]

wtf

[ashen cliff]

Don't ignore me like that 🟦.

[limpid comet]

@ashen cliff from the deepest darkest pits of hell

i committed so many atrocities to get my hands on it

[ashen cliff]

That's a bad answer.

[visual egret]

well

um

i hate football

so it isnt me

also, kuba is my brothers name

kuba was like 3 when that video was released

[limpid comet]

suspicious, very suspicious

[left swift]

Oversharing on the internet what could go wrong

[visual egret]

what r u gonna do

[left swift]

[spiral robin]

[limpid comet]

i fucking love knowing how threads work

[visual egret]

how do threads work

[ashen cliff]

They don't.

[limpid comet]

i meant in the terms of programming

like thread safety and all that

technically i've no fucking clue

[wide chasm]

You just context switch constantly and pray

Surely that isn't an issue /s

[ashen cliff]

INB4 1M context switches/s.

[limpid comet]

introducing: cloud tasks

[ashen cliff]

Context switch and leak on other peoples hardware.

[hard kernel]

Odd question. If a older man seduces a minor on a mc server does this fall on the server owner?

[limpid comet]

what

the uck

[left swift]

What lmao

LOL

[ashen cliff]

Welcome to hell. Report it to the authorities, provide them proof.

[hard kernel]

Is that not english?

[ashen cliff]

We had similar stuff happen... so yeah, reporting is the best solution.

[limpid comet]

it should be the responsibility of some server authority

[left swift]

Ban them, report it to authorities, and make a statement denouncing it. Otherwise no

[slim nymph]

itll be on the server owners ass if you DONT report it

[hard kernel]

Ok this has not happened but there as been suggestive conversations between two parties that are allegedly gapped in age. I just wanna nip it in the butt before anything comes from it.

[limpid comet]

heh nip it in the butt

[slim nymph]

keep all evidence incase its needed, make backup of logs

[left swift]

Isnt the saying nip it in the bud

[limpid comet]

yes

[left swift]

Haha they said butt

[twin lagoon]

how come everyone and their neighbour have these weird fucking situations on their minecraft servers

[left swift]

People are freaks

[twin lagoon]

the weirdest thing i've had is someone build a cock and ball torture room

[limpid comet]

erm

that's weird?

[left swift]

My server had an incident where after we banned this person off the server for griefing they accused us for sexual harassment in our server threads on new accounts

They would make new accounts and reply to themselves lol

[limpid comet]

cbt rooms are a staple of any good server

[left swift]

Anyways

Weebs are dum

[warm anchor]

The fact that marriage plugin exist and is fairly popular should tell you this isn’t rare...

Who the fuck get married in Minecraft

[spiral robin]

Me

I met the LOVE OF MY LIFE on minecraft

You just don't understand

[warm anchor]

[left swift]

[limpid comet]

i married a pig in minecraft

[spiral robin]

I'm not suprised you're into that

[limpid comet]

pls ban aber for slander

[twin lagoon]

weeeeeeeeeeell

[limpid comet]

[twin lagoon]

that plugin is surprisingly more popular than i thought

as it boosted playercount by quite a lot

[limpid comet]

isn't that one of lax's abominations

[twin lagoon]

no that's genders

[limpid comet]

nvm

yea

[twin lagoon]

is my plugin done bluely

[limpid comet]

soon

[hard kernel]

@twin lagoon what plugin

[twin lagoon]

a plugin

[left swift]

The plugin plugin