general

[vernal bone]

Thank you ^^

[limber knot]

pretty sure instant answers only have wikipedia answers for most stuff

ok well technically they provide all these but most are pretty specific: https://duck.co/ia

[cosmic raft]

hi

[limber knot]

hm, interesting, I can't get the api to return stackoverflow answers

[vernal bone]

Hello kashike!

Yes, same only wikipedia answers.

[limber knot]

maybe open a ticket with them, they aren't going to improve it if nobody shows interest lol

[worn ember]

@vernal bone it does show the first result and wikipedia happens to be one a lot of the time

[limber knot]

ah "Because of the way we generate our search results, we unfortunately do not have the rights to fully syndicate our results, free or paid. For the same reason, we cannot allow framing our results without our branding. Please see our partnerships page for more info on guidelines and getting in touch with us."

so basically it's a rights issue

(although stackoverflow answers would have a free license but ¯_(ツ)_/¯)

I bet that stackoverflow's api that the instant answer is using is imposing additional usage agreements :S

[vernal bone]

And the only one I can send back to the user as an answer :P
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789968274757648394/805144160386547732/unknown.png

[limber knot]

make sure you follow their api usage requirements: https://i.phoenix616.dev/gi2iRefS.png 👀

[vernal bone]

I might just go with searx or google at this point 👀

[limber knot]

searx is nice, requires something like 500GB of space though lol

and google is pricey af

[worn ember]

Just webscrape google results

[limber knot]

yeah, use google's headless chrome against them ;D

[worn ember]

It's not technically illegal. Just a dick move lol

[twin lagoon]

@viral hornet cunt

[raven hare]

Anybody here ever tried to integrate a .jar library into their plugin.jar? I'm having issues with the library failing to load because it cannot find the class path of the library classes

https://github.com/ScrewTSW/hModLogger/releases/tag/1.0.1
I'm trying to integrate this

[limber knot]

just shade it in

[viral hornet]

what

[raven hare]

How?

[limber knot]

oh, that project doesn't use maven

lmao

just use some non-shit project lol

*project setup

[raven hare]

I'm building it for hMod xD there was no project management, everything is default package

[waxen panther]

wh-

why are you using hmod

[raven hare]

I need to do some MANIFEST.MF wizardry

[raven hare]

Because I'm running Alpha server

[waxen panther]

monka-fucking-w

[limber knot]

nothing is stopping your form using maven

*from

(or gradle if you prefer that)

[raven hare]

#makealphagreatagain :D

[raven hare]

Ok, that could be the way then, but I will probably need help setting it up

[limber knot]

there's tons of tutorials for that...

[raven hare]

I mean I work with maven, but never tried to do a packageless dependency

[limber knot]

wat

maven doesn't care about how your code is structured

it's a dependency management and basic build tool

[raven hare]

👍

[visual egret]

smh

sad moment

i wish it was from when you actually created the account

not from when you bought the game

[limber knot]

I mean, there isn't really a point for the account without buying the game?

also which api endpoint is that?

[visual egret]

https://api.minecraftservices.com/minecraft/profile/namechange

just leaked my emai;

great

anyway irc doesent forget

so

people who saw that

dont leak

[limber knot]

👀

[twin lagoon]

https://korobi.vq.lc/network/esper/channel/paper/logs/

[limber knot]

pretty sure discord deletes images after a while if the message is deleted

[mossy vessel]

Does the amount of * represent the amount of pw chars?

[limber knot]

I hope not lol

[twin lagoon]

@mossy vessel

[mossy vessel]

Michele

[limber knot]

oof, that endpoint isn't documented on wiki.vg? :(

[ashen cliff]

If you delete something, it's instantly and permanently gone.
At least that's what they promised years ago.

[limber knot]

I mean we know for sure that's not the case lol

[ashen cliff]

So avoid all legal responsibility for ... things.

[limber knot]

pretty sure they legally can't delete anything

[ashen cliff]

Well, you delete it.

And they promised it was instantly gone from everywhere.

[limber knot]

but images tend to become inaccessible sometimes when people deleted the messages I noticed on IRC

[ashen cliff]

That used to be true for images, but no longer is.

After the "caching" fixes, they somehow broke that.

[visual egret]

playing the demo

back in 2015

that was fun

[limber knot]

lol

I played the OG demo back in 2009 👀

[visual egret]

i remember i felt so smart when i figured out how to get creative mode

lol

wait a second, i made my discord in 2016 right?

that means i didnt play the 2015 demo

i played in 2013-2014

if not earlier

[mossy vessel]

[visual egret]

shush

[waxen panther]

I thought your """dad""" created it?

[visual egret]

i "made" it

[waxen panther]

@cunning raft

another link for the report

[visual egret]

if i delete my account and come back

would that count as

[cunning raft]

that would be fine

[visual egret]

warn evading

here

[cunning raft]

urm

idk

[limber knot]

hm, do you only get that info back when actually changing the name? :S

oh, I just needed to reload it lol

https://i.moep.tv/gjLn2C7Z.png 👀

[cunning raft]

phoenix616: what endpoint is that

[limber knot]

scroll up and read oskar's messages

[cunning raft]

is there a post/get param?

[visual egret]

probably

since it returns a 401 when i try to GET it

[limber knot]

no, put you need to send an options before and provide authorization

it's easier to just see the network response after logging in on minecraft.net tbh

[cunning raft]

ah okay i see it

[minor badge]

https://owo.whats-th.is/83mUgKV.png 😔

[limber knot]

what auth does that endpoint require?

oh I should have read phoenix61.6's messages pahaha

[twin lagoon]

@vernal moth https://github.com/settings/emails is your github configured to go to an email address hosted on mxroute?

if so, is it marked as undeliverable

[vernal moth]

not sure

[twin lagoon]

github is randomly marking my email as undeliverable, never had that issue before

[vernal moth]

yes

https://i.imgur.com/adxaNcH.png

[twin lagoon]

weird

first time i've had issues with mxroute

my shit is configured properly too and i received an email 4 hours ago so that should be fine

[limber knot]

oh neat https://i.jamierocks.uk/mmxxi/JqDt1armHE.png

[meager tusk]

people who pirated the game for years

[visual egret]

i played legacy console edition 😎

[ashen cliff]

What would be the best first project to test new devs?
GPU worldgen or Async entities?

[meager tusk]

[visual egret]

speaking of that, is there any way to get worlds from that onto java edition?

[olive garden]

what's up with this name change allowed thing?

[twin lagoon]

bedrock <-> java is possible

[olive garden]

are name changes limited now or what?

[twin lagoon]

legacy console, dunno

[meager tusk]

every 30 days trigary

probably related to that

[visual egret]

legacy console probably updates to bedrock tho, right?

[olive garden]

huh

okay

[meager tusk]

@twin lagoon

[minor badge]

@meager tusk best idriz in the world ever?

[meager tusk]

best proxi ever

[limber knot]

@k​ru​si​c2​2 no, you give them a simple task and watch them screw up on sync database operations and offline player querying

[vernal bone]

Google detected my dotg google bot as a bot

[limber knot]

of course, lol

[vernal bone]

Time to look into adding an api key...

[limber knot]

no, use headless chrome

[vernal bone]

But it works, when it's not limited lol

Meh I will use a bunch of free proxies instead

And it works 👌

[visual egret]

Anyone have a guide/tutorial for getting into JS stuff

a few people told me to use react, maybe something for that?

[cunning raft]

google is free

[waxen panther]

learn js first

then react

[visual egret]

i can do some basic js stuff

[limber knot]

https://stimulus.hotwire.dev/ is nice

[meager tusk]

jesus christ there's like 100k js frameworks

[woven otter]

100k frameworks and it still sucks

[limber knot]

yep and most of them suck

[vernal moth]

vue ❤️

[vernal moth]

we broke 100k servers on bstats yesterday 🎉

[meager tusk]

this sounds like that one project which was SSR but used diffs

i forget the name but it was the exact same concept

[visual egret]

I copy pasted something from a wiki and the guy said that solved his issue

even though he said he read the wiki

[cedar spade]

traditional
single-page application

JS and web dev are a never ending cycle of "ooh shiny"

[dusky pine]

@serene sentinel it is impossible for me to have more than 10 players atm

[serene sentinel]

no?

[vestal jasper]

@mental meadow it's not the flags it's pterodactyl. If you set flags to the containers allocation settings it instantly OOM kills itself.

[dusky pine]

ofc it is

[vestal jasper]

#old-forum-feed for context

[dusky pine]

since it's just me and my friends

[serene sentinel]

you have 6GIG and if you're using aikar flags and optimized config on your server you can have more than 10+

but since your on a shared-host

you would start lagging after 40-50+ players

[dusky pine]

I do not even have aikar flags atm

(sry Aikar)

[visual egret]

https://startmc.sh

@dusky pine that should make it simpler

[dusky pine]

thanks

[mental meadow]

that's why there's a specific section for ptero on that site lol

[visual egret]

it explains everything

[dusky pine]

but since I can't have more than 10 players

I don't need the flags yet

[serene sentinel]

oh you will bud

trust me

[dusky pine]

idk how and when

[serene sentinel]

it improves performance 100%

[dusky pine]

yeah

but even if it improved 100000000%

idc

[serene sentinel]

unless you're on 1GB server

[dusky pine]

the server is holding up just fine

[visual egret]

then ur dumb @dusky pine

[dusky pine]

tnx

[visual egret]

[serene sentinel]

Dejwut no ones forcing you

[dusky pine]

ik

[serene sentinel]

if you're not going to use it why bother asking for help

[dusky pine]

xd

[serene sentinel]

in the first place.

what a waste of time

[dusky pine]

I didn't ask

but ok

[vestal jasper]

Ah nice

[mental meadow]

when oskar is calling someone dumb it must be serious

[woven otter]

ok

[dusky pine]

I might be dumb

I might even be stupid

I might be retarded

but one thing I know is

[cunning raft]

o7

[dusky pine]

I don't need additional performance

[serene sentinel]

dude we're not here for your ego alright shut up if you're not going to use aikar flags you can leave

[dusky pine]

ok

[mental meadow]

If you all don't stop you all can leave

[dusky pine]

oof

[mental meadow]

If someone says no then leave it

[woven otter]

noone should be forced to use something

just saying

[cunning raft]

#general message

[serene sentinel]

indeed we're not forcing him

[void void]

I mean cmon if he does not want to use them let him reap the negative effects. No need to tell someone to leave over it.

[cunning raft]

leaf died for this

[woven otter]

if they complain however

[serene sentinel]

and his telling "idc"

[woven otter]

leaf always gets rolled tho

[mental meadow]

Drop it.

[woven otter]

rekt

[serene sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/risitas-el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-issou-jesus-gif-12145166

[cunning raft]

kekvv moment

[woven otter]

rip chat is dead

thanks awvrora

[mental meadow]

np ❤️

[serene sentinel]

cant blame you aurora zipped us ;p

[woven otter]

just hold GME 🚀 🚀 🚀

[void void]

I mean you were forcing java start up flags on someone saying they should leave otherwise

[woven otter]

uh oh

[dusky pine]

this is not going to end well

[cunning raft]

shut up

[mental meadow]

?kick @void void I said to drop the topic

[leaden oxide]

MoistPencil#8539 was kicked | I said to drop the topic

[woven otter]

😩

[dusky pine]

tnx Duck

[woven otter]

[serene sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/kekcrab-crabkek-crabkekw-kekwceab-crab-gif-19258334

[mental meadow]

[woven otter]

kotlin always saves the day

[serene sentinel]

IntelliJ saves my ass more than kotlin 😎

dude his back

[void void]

My apologies**

[woven otter]

All apologies

[dusky pine]

^

[untold copper]

w a s s u p

@warm anchor u awake

[woven otter]

how long does it take for stalebot to close PRs after it has been marked as stale?

[mossy vessel]

7 days

[woven otter]

oof

[golden gust]

hello desk, my name is face

[woven otter]

well then I guess I'll push some commits today

hello cat

why dont you bash your face against your desk

[golden gust]

that's the expectation of how the next few hours is going to end

[woven otter]

F. why

[golden gust]

I don't remember when I woke up

[clever widget]

paper!!!!!!

[golden gust]

somewhere between like 9-10 pm or something

[woven otter]

hmm 🤔

[dusky pine]

I got one question, that may have been answered 999 times

What resources do you recommend for learning Java?

[mental meadow]

JetBrains Academy

[woven otter]

head first java

[dusky pine]

Yaay

[untold copper]

FreeCode Camp maybe?

idk

[mental meadow]

Most sane people in here will recommend JetBrains Academy^^

[dusky pine]

I was thinking about that

[untold copper]

kk

[twin lagoon]

thenewboston

[waxen panther]

[woven otter]

yeah JetBrains Academy if you want to use some online courses

[dusky pine]

JetBrains Academt is Czech

Czech means good

Except when it comes to the minister of health

[minor badge]

@mental meadow new riverdale ep

[golden gust]

the one guy who released a video saying he was a noob and basically not to use his vids but kept them all up and people still recommended him

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge 😔

[woven otter]

Make sure to make your own projects too

[dusky pine]

Emmm

[woven otter]

BCBros or something

[dusky pine]

I wanna make plugins

[woven otter]

that spigot guy

[wide chasm]

Yes, TheBcBroz

[woven otter]

yes

that

[waxen panther]

i learnt from pogostick47 or something stupid like that

[clever widget]

RIVER

[waxen panther]

the best youtube tutorials 2013 had to offer 😎

[untold copper]

Lake

[mental meadow]

I never watched riverdale

[woven otter]

dum brocc

[hot hamlet]

So im using essentialsx within this plugin is there any perms so iu can disable block placing and breaking for the default group?

[clever widget]

body of water

[dusky pine]

The problem with making your own projects is that they are not much original out there

[waxen panther]

its the best worst show ever

[wide chasm]

Pogostick is one of the more sane tutorials

[dusky pine]

And I don't have many ideas

[untold copper]

use worldguard for that

[wide chasm]

Pretty outdated nowadays though

[woven otter]

kangacademy

[waxen panther]

they were easy enough to follow for my dumb 12 year old ass so i think he did pretty well :p

[dusky pine]

JB Academy got free trial, right?

Welp, mine ended already

Time to give them $$$

[wide chasm]

There's a seven day trial I think

[dusky pine]

I got like 3 months or 2

You get month for completing a project

[wide chasm]

Yeah, you can extend it if you do stuff

One month for completing a project and one month for something else I think

[dusky pine]

They don't need CC tho

So I mean

Theoretically

Just theoretically

I could breach TOS and create another account

Pls don't ban me

No ban yet?

[waxen panther]

too boring

[dusky pine]

Ik servers where I would get insta banned

[woven otter]

ok brocc

[waxen panther]

ok

[woven otter]

ok

[waxen panther]

awa

[dusky pine]

Ok

OwO

[untold copper]

new pfp uwu

[woven otter]

no u no u no u

[limber knot]

I could breach TOS and create another account

[dusky pine]

Hypothetically

Yk

[untold copper]

hAi martin

[vernal moth]

@twin lagoon re: email issues: some email spam list had an expired domain, which lead to blocking everything, maybe that was it

[twin lagoon]

i read it yes

spam lists are it's finest

[void void]

help me pls

[waxen panther]

ok

[twin lagoon]

ok

[dusky pine]

What do Aikar flags optimize? Just memory?

[ashen cliff]

GC times at the expensive of memory usage.

[golden gust]

they optimize GC behavior, read the page

[dusky pine]

Ok

.flags

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[twin lagoon]

jesus christ

[golden gust]

Speak to the plugin author

[mental meadow]

.paste

[twin lagoon]

#paper-help

[limber knot]

Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

[twin lagoon]

paste indeed

outdated paper version

[void void]

¿?

[twin lagoon]

¿? indeed

[woven otter]

? moment

[twin lagoon]

ask in the right channels

[golden gust]

1. still in the wrong channel

[vestal jasper]

Nice exception

[golden gust]

2. You've literally been told, speak to the plugin author.

[vestal jasper]

Ngl I have genuine doubts that the latest reply on the forums is accurate

I don't see any reality where removing a dummy flag checked by timings and only timings would cause the server to stop OOM killing itself on startup

[golden gust]

it's not an OOM

[vestal jasper]

Oh?

[golden gust]

the flags must have a spce or something in them

[warm anchor]

Define awake

[golden gust]

for most, that would imply eyes open and able to brain

I guess for you that would always be "no", so, may have to revise that criteria

[warm anchor]

lol

[raven hare]

I'm getting insanely frustrated, been stuck on this for past four hours. I tried maven-assembly-plugin https://stackoverflow.com/questions/574594/how-can-i-create-an-executable-jar-with-dependencies-using-maven
I tried maven shade plugin, i tried to do it using ant build, i tried to manually create a manifest file all to no avail.

Simply the project sees it during compile, but does not see it during runtime.

[untold copper]

ono

I didn't finish my course

dissapointment

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-disappointed-food-review-meme-gif-16003613

[raven hare]

Exactly how I feel

[woven otter]

does it actually include it in the jar then

[warm anchor]

Oh no

[raven hare]

This is my source library that I have in src/lib/ I have the eclipse project configured to export the library as well.
it copies it into bin/libs/ where my other project classes are compiled, but when I then package it into .jar it failes with the ClassNotFoundException

[golden gust]

if you're building with eclipse, your maven config is irrelevant

[raven hare]

I'm staying away from pom.xml

[olive garden]

[raven hare]

it pointlessly overcomplicates stuff

[twin lagoon]

no

[woven otter]

no

[mental meadow]

lol

[olive garden]

good luck getting help

[golden gust]

check your build export settings, I guess

But, I ain't touched eclipse in years, you're on your own there

[dusky pine]

pog.xml

[twin lagoon]

you're pointlessly overcomplicating stuff by not using a proper build tool

i don't even know java and i can set up maven with shading

you can probably do so too

[woven otter]

or use gradle

if you dont want to touch maven

[minor badge]

gradle is a terrible suggestion if he thinks maven is complicated

[raven hare]

I mean I tried it in intellij converting it to maven project and setting up all the package and jar plugins and whatnot, but it didn't help anything and just made the project much more complicated to build

[woven otter]

fair enough

[raven hare]

I did use both gradle and maven in past, but if you're working with local dependencies that are not published to any maven repo it's a very deep rabbit hole to go down

[twin lagoon]

no?

[golden gust]

just install them to your local maven repo

[raven hare]

I simply did not find an easy way to include a static .jar into a maven project and package it with the built jar

[golden gust]

you're not supposed to work with static jars, but, you can

.g maven system scope shade

[raven hare]

I don't expect that people that just pull the repo from github would know how to do that

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3642023/having-a-3rd-party-jar-included-in-maven-shaded-jar-without-adding-it-to-local-r

[golden gust]

literally, mvn install

[twin lagoon]

can just make maven include the jars from a directory

[raven hare]

good luck doing that with a project that has multiple local dependencies

[twin lagoon]

can just make maven include the jars from a directory

[raven hare]

and uses no package so there are no artifactID and groupID

[golden gust]

Seriously, there are sites like jitpack which essentially give you a free maven repo

throwing a maven repo in github, as horrible as it is, is also something people do

[woven otter]

working with local libs is so easy with gradle

no extra work needed as with maven

[raven hare]

teach me master

I'm willing to do anything to wash my hands off eclipse

[dusky pine]

use IntelliJ or what the heck is the IDE from JB called

[raven hare]

only reason I was using it was that the original project from 2008 was build using eclipse's autocompile feature

I usually use IntelliJ Idea if I must or just plain VSCode

[dusky pine]

^

[woven otter]

not sure what the new equivalent is for compile but:
compile files('/somedir/yourfile.jar') entry in your dependencies is all you need to do tbh and might need jar plugin or maybe not idk I always have used shadow plugin so dunno actually

[spare venture]

i love when some random dependency breaks

[golden gust]

'breaks'

[spare venture]

yes

[golden gust]

assuming it didn't diiiie, I always basically just have a nexus repo which I mirror needed stuff from

saved my ass one too many times

[spare venture]

missing repos mostly and shit

[raven hare]

this refers to compile time errors. I have none of those. my issue is during runtime as the classes in my jar cannot find the classes in the lib directory included in the jar

[spare venture]

i usually just use the jar if that crap happens

but yeah that's smart, might start doing that if i depend on public ones

[woven otter]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49278063/how-do-i-create-an-executable-fat-jar-with-gradle-with-implementation-dependenci i guess this one

for the fat jar

[minor badge]

new compile is implementation (includes the contents, does not "re-export" the dep) and api (exact same behaviour) btw

[raven hare]

this sounds very much like the issue i've been having

[woven otter]

@proxi ^ ty

[minor badge]

you can also use fileTree i believe

[raven hare]

yeah, that sucks

[minor badge]

it's great

[woven otter]

fileTree would be better if you have multiple jars you need to include

so yeah use that probably

[minor badge]

you can now have internal deps for shit like java 8/9 functionality (for example to use reflection & method handles!)

[raven hare]

so, this is my current set-up. The Logger class has no package and there's a .jar dependency in the resources/lib/ folder

in this case, I don't need to package the Minecraft_Mod.jar, I only need it during compile scope

really haven't used gradle that much, yet

hmm, this does nothing. I have it configured as a project module and as a library during compile

nevermind, fixed it

[visual egret]

[woven otter]

looks like a joke

[warm anchor]

I actually like ipv6

When it works it works wonders

[golden gust]

be even better if people actually deployed it

[warm anchor]

True it will solve pretty much all those home hosting port forwarding fuckary

[mental meadow]

the fact that it's in hex and the : throw me of

[waxen panther]

would you rather its 256 0's and 1's

i dont actually know how long it is in binary

probably more than 256

[golden gust]

Yea, but, could you imagine tryna refer to v6 addresses with the oclets we used for v4

[warm anchor]

You mean you don’t remember your ipv6 ??? What a noob

[ashen cliff]

Imagine reallocating IPv4 IPs.

[true canyon]

I remember my ipv6. It's nslookup mydomainhere.com

[warm anchor]

I’d like to be able to connect directly to my Samsung smart fridge

[mental meadow]

I wonder how much Cloudflare paid for that 1.1.1.1

[cunning raft]

they partnered with the owners of it iirc

i may be wrong but i think it was a sinkhole before

[ashen cliff]

IANA It's absolutely crucial that you give our UNI another IP block for all the students on campus. <doge here>

[golden gust]

I mean, my Uni has a /16

[ashen cliff]

Yet still runs NAT?

[golden gust]

nope

at least, not in the compsci labs

[mental meadow]

We also had a /16 but we shared some of it with others bc we were nice

And we only NAT the Eduroam stuff

[ashen cliff]

One of our UNIs has a /16, but still runs NAT.
Like a bunch of IPs are still unused, but they keep begging for new ones.

As someone who installed a bunch of Eduroam stuff, we were forbidden from using NAT.

Yeah, our joined school network is a giant mess.

[golden gust]

seems legit

[ashen cliff]

You can connect from anywhere with the network and use any IP anywhere.

[golden gust]

I mean, was kinda handy being able to go to another uni and use their wifi there the literal one time we did it

but, like, oof

[mental meadow]

setting up eduroam is a pita

[ashen cliff]

So we just use that static IP... that doesn't have firewall set for Steam n stuff.

[mental meadow]

but its very epic

[zealous wedge]

eduroam is neat

we've got it at my uni

[dusky pine]

I don't think I understand why shared hosting is so bad... I thought that you got some amount of power allocated and when you're using more and someone else is using less, it's just ok. And when both are using full power, they just get the power they paid for. Is that not how it works?

[mental meadow]

part of my work was help students set up their eduroam correctly so that it actually checks the certificate and stuff

[ashen cliff]

It's epic after you figure out how powerful it is.

[spare venture]

not all of it is bad

[ashen cliff]

A bunch of people here abuse it for ... legal ... downloading.

[dusky pine]

eduroam

[zealous wedge]

oh yeah I never bother with cert checking on my setups

[dusky pine]

ah yes

[spare venture]

but shared hosts are financially encouraged to oversell

[ashen cliff]

Since you get priority/direct connections to other locations.

[spare venture]

so most are bad

[dusky pine]

Heavynode?

[zealous wedge]

I think my uni gave this black box installer download for it, but I dont trust that

[untold copper]

use bloomhost

[dusky pine]

are they overselling?

[mental meadow]

We did receive a lot of nice legal letters bc students downloaded Kung Fu Panda! 😄

[zealous wedge]

lol

[ashen cliff]

"We" just avoided that.

[warm anchor]

All shared are overselling except 3 @dusky pine

[spare venture]

the only ones that i know are good are extravm and dedicatedmc

[dusky pine]

mhm

I like the support

on Heavynode

[zealous wedge]

with legal letters at least all you have to do is forward it on

[ashen cliff]

Since again, we used a IP that wasn't technically within Eduroam, but you could still use it, due to some very epic config issues.

[mental meadow]

We just didn't care, we told the student that they fucked up & threw the letter away

[waxen panther]

good support normally means shit everything else

[dusky pine]

not really

[warm anchor]

Got people asking why extraVM only has low RAM option and say they got 10G from pebble 10G but xms 138M

[waxen panther]

if you need support theres a problem tbh

[dusky pine]

I'm more than satisfied with the power

[spare venture]

haha i used a seedbox to be safe when using university internet

[mental meadow]

They had some portal where you had to reply to that letter and they had a predefined answer of "We are a university and don't really care"

[zealous wedge]

lol

[dusky pine]

Assigning additional port to my server for dynmap?

[spare venture]

my seedbox got fukt tho because it got too many letters from angry copyright people

[waxen panther]

ah we're talking about shared hosts

omegalul nevermind

[dusky pine]

yes, I don't have money for domain or dedicated IP :((((

[waxen panther]

didnt scroll that far up

[ashen cliff]

Just use a proxy for tracker connections.

[spare venture]

isn't it like $1/mo more for a dedicated IP

go rob a homeless man or something /s

[dusky pine]

let me check

[spiral robin]

Hello

[warm anchor]

Hi aber

[mental meadow]

abeeeer

[dusky pine]

$3 oof

[ashen cliff]

Anyway, I love networking and abuse of it within reason.

[dusky pine]

Ok, so it's this time again

What is the best hosting

for 17$ a month

[zealous wedge]

yes

[dusky pine]

for ~10ppl playing Minecraft for fun

[spare venture]

i'm just going to say that $3/mo is $0.10/day

[dusky pine]

whatever

[spare venture]

i think 10 people can cough up 10 cents every day

[wraith nymph]

hi guys im looking for a plugin like this but for Paper server any one got any ideas? https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/disease.3911/

[dusky pine]

you can use Spigot plugins

with paper

[mental meadow]

what's stopping you from using that plugin?

[ashen cliff]

This image: https://posili.me/i/2021-01-31_18-47-41.png

[dusky pine]

Paper is a fork of spigot anyways, right?

[twin lagoon]

if you want a disease just host a 1.7 hcf server

[wraith nymph]

haha

that image so im guessing itwould be broken on paper

[vernal moth]

try it

[zealous wedge]

that image just means the dev is an idiot

[vernal moth]

most likely the author is just an idiot

[spare venture]

lmfao if someone makes that image they are big dumb

[wraith nymph]

hahaha now im even more scared to try it from an idiot dev haha

[vernal moth]

nuf said https://i.imgur.com/RDoh7SK.png

yeah so the plugin is written by an beginner

[spare venture]

mfw

[vernal moth]

the other classes are worse

[spare venture]

using british "armour"

[mental meadow]

armur

[spare venture]

what would you suggest as better mini? using when?

[vernal moth]

a switch or better, a map

[visual egret]

domains cost like nothing

lol

[spare venture]

I believe when in kotlin is a switch in java, right

[minor badge]

ironic isnt it

yes, barty

[spare venture]

ah ok

[minor badge]

more like java 15/16 switches tho

[spare venture]

i wish all of my stuff was in kotlin 😦

[twin lagoon]

looks like my bash scripts

[dusky pine]

So do I switch from Heavynode to bloom, or does it not make so much of a difference?

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/wJDaSLe.png

[dusky pine]

2 GB of RAM more

[spare venture]

i dont know what either of those are, so idk

[wraith nymph]

anyone think that disease plugin was a good idea excuting very pooorly

[spare venture]

just do your research and maybe ask in another community that is more familiar with shared hosts

[wraith nymph]

executed*

[spare venture]

i considered a covid plugin at one point

felt it was bad taste though

[dusky pine]

do you know that community?

[spare venture]

syscraft

maybe

[dusky pine]

ok

tnx

[golden gust]

that disease plugin was fucking ass

[dusky pine]

let's go syscraft

[golden gust]

We literally had players quitting coz they broke their legs at spawn

[spare venture]

@dusky pine #community-guilds message

[wraith nymph]

ive seen that one and then i thought of a few of my family members that passed and thought yeah not using it

[spare venture]

we have masks though

[wraith nymph]

😮

[wraith nymph]

hahahahahaha

[spare venture]

i really wanted them to protect you from disease

[visual egret]

guys

what rtp plugin should i use

[untold copper]

ded's rtp

[woven otter]

yes

[visual egret]

what about bluelys

[spare venture]

sadly I can't wear a mask at the same time as my pirate hat

[untold copper]

ha lolno

[woven otter]

ded's rtp is the best

[untold copper]

^

[spare venture]

at least my hand is wearing a mask

[woven otter]

the best part is that you can bully ded to make it better

[visual egret]

@worn ember have you hosted your rtp api's on some repo yet

[spare venture]

i've learned you shouldn't use an rtp plugin that you don't know the developer for, because they are all awful except for the people here's tbh

i.e. robo's was the only good one for a while

[worn ember]

the api is part of the rtp repo

[spare venture]

even with shitty meme code

[worn ember]

they're diff modules

[visual egret]

i mean

do i need to bother with putting it on manually

or can i just yeet it onto my pom

[spiral robin]

ded

[worn ember]

yo

[untold copper]

hai

[worn ember]

you'll need to clone it and build locally then install into maven and then you can add randomteleport-api

the api is just a bunch of interfaces tho

[woven otter]

obligatory "ewww maven" for that statement

[visual egret]

smh you still havent hosted it

[worn ember]

"still"

no one ever asked me to

[visual egret]

i did

like ages ago

[worn ember]

i'll do it once i finish the rewrite

its on the todo list

just not high prio

[wraith nymph]

anyone willing to make a better version of that disease plugin? as a lockdown project maybe ?

[visual egret]

what about

you?

[wraith nymph]

i would pay with cookies and memes

[visual egret]

pay yourself with cookies

and memes

[wraith nymph]

i have down that too much over this lockdown

done*

if i could make it i would

[visual egret]

then dont ppay yourself

kek

[woven otter]

what's the plugin

[wraith nymph]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/disease.3911/

that one

[spare venture]

i think people usually make things for money, not cookies

[wraith nymph]

cookie is also considered money

[unreal quarry]

wtf is this shit

[spare venture]

can't pay bills with cookies

[unreal quarry]

bad plugin

[spare venture]

how exactly does a plugin not work on paper?

nms stuff?

i wouldnt see why that wouldnt work though

how does one manage to do that

[woven otter]

not supporting paper smh

[cunning raft]

paper doesn't even break nms compat

in 99.9% of cases

you have to do something

[spare venture]

ya that's what i thought, i don't really use nms though

[cunning raft]

so ultra dumb

[spare venture]

try to not use it anyway

[cunning raft]

for it to break

[spare venture]

i've never encountered one that broke on paper

[golden gust]

and when we do, it's pretty much always when we justify the breakage because sane people use methods like the addEntity method 😡

[spare venture]

does that X just mean they don't want to provide support to you if you're using paper?

or does it mean it breaks

[golden gust]

probs support

Used that plugin years ago on paper just fine

[spare venture]

i mean that's fair

[golden gust]

I wouldn't inflict that plugin on your players,though

[spare venture]

i would imagine don't want to support people who use yatopia or shit like that

[golden gust]

I did use to scare my players by threatening to add it back though

[spare venture]

surprised that paper isn't, considering the majority of servers use it

oh well, beggars can't be choosers

[wraith nymph]

hahahahahahahahaha

[spare venture]

I’ve found that players can’t even handle dying and having their items dropped on the ground, so adding disease might be too much for them

[wraith nymph]

that bad arrg an infection type plugin would suit by server pretty well well ill wait until it generates some mulla to pay a dev to make a better version

[visual egret]

well

[limpid comet]

yes that was a good use of a review

[golden gust]

Honestly, it was meh

[wraith nymph]

oh gosh

[golden gust]

Like, it added very little to the game

and really just annoyed players

[wraith nymph]

fair enough and ohh did you use it on your paper server?

[golden gust]

Yes, maaaannny years ago though

[spare venture]

Yeah if you’re gonna add annoying mechanics you gotta make them fun in a way or else it’ll just piss people off

[wraith nymph]

also my last plugin communnty question is im looking for a plugin similar to this https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/boss-land.68320/ but they spawn naturally in areas.

[spare venture]

Peoples tolerance for annoying crap like that is getting lower every year it feels like

[wraith nymph]

any one use a similar one?

[wraith nymph]

yeah hats true it a very thin line between challenging and annoying my server community is mainly hardcore players looking for ultra hard difficuties

i have a good tempurature and thirst i thought that would be annoying but they love it

[woven otter]

peoples attention span is getting lower every year too

[wraith nymph]

it also gives leather armor a purpose haha

[spare venture]

Agree duck

But it was never very high to begin with

[visual egret]

Anyone know a plugin alternative to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb1mEIK_wQ ? i want the lore not to change after the blocks are placed, etc

[spare venture]

Purpur

Has a patch for TEs to retain NBT

[woven otter]

Internet isn't meant for long attention spans tho

[visual egret]

is it enabled by default?

[woven otter]

wiz 👀

[pulsar wigeon]

what the shit is that plugin hijacking random wg flags. do they know they can make custom flags for their own shit

[woven otter]

probably

[pulsar wigeon]

hurr durr didn't even spell lightning right https://i.imgur.com/3CLnfvc.png

[spare venture]

Why was WG extra flags made instead of being PRed to WG

[visual egret]

i wouldn't ask any more questions after seeing this

[crystal compass]

bruh why was my ovh bill 4$ 👀

I think it's renewing my contract or something. Its been 12 months exactly.

[spare venture]

i would expect to pay the rest eventually

why are ovhcloud and ovh still separate

[crystal compass]

oh yeah, barty how come the rebrand ?

[spare venture]

reasons

[clever widget]

im playing battlefield 2

[crystal compass]

Not to be a dick or anything, but what made your server go from 100+ online to like 15ish ?

[spare venture]

less advertising

[clever widget]

battlefield 2 on top

[crystal compass]

Damn

i'm sure you'll do it again

[golden gust]

less advertising

[spare venture]

considering my server is much much better than it was before, maybe

[golden gust]

if advertising churn was your activity, sounds like your issue was actually convincing players to stay in the first place

[crystal compass]

You had your server like half as long as mine and were wildly successful

Well in comparison i'd say. I've been hardstuck 20-30 online for like 2 years

Lol

[spare venture]

nah cat, i had pretty high retention rates

still do

but getting 600 new players a day to only 50-100 new players a day means a big hit to your playerbase

[crystal compass]

wtf lol

i've had like 2500 people join my server ever in the past year

[spare venture]

yeah we had a lot of people join

[crystal compass]

op

[spare venture]

like 20k-25k in a two month span

[crystal compass]

That's nuts

[spare venture]

all because of one tiktok video

[crystal compass]

Holy shit lol

[spare venture]

that I didn't even make

[visual egret]

party, any advice?

[clever widget]

the chinese voices in battlefield 2 are so calm compared to the american ones

[crystal compass]

I just had to ban a few players who had creative and editted nbt everywhere and recreated every item in the game in mass amounts

: ' )

[spare venture]

creative is a cheat

[crystal compass]

All by saving items from the server, going to singleplayer, using nbt editor, checking the nbt i had on them

[spare venture]

?

[crystal compass]

then bringing them back...

[visual egret]

generally for servers

[spare venture]

i dont know what that means

[spiral robin]

use paper

use port 25565

[crystal compass]

lmao

[visual egret]

i mean

like

[zealous wedge]

hire aberdeener

[visual egret]

just generally

what are some do not do stuff

[spare venture]

make a good server, advertise it well

[spiral robin]

😳

[zealous wedge]

()

[crystal compass]

don't let drama get out of hand

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

^^^

[spiral robin]

(morning buddy ❤️)

[spare venture]

don't be 13

[visual egret]

party

i asked for advice on hosting servers

not life advice

[mossy vessel]

aber

[zealous wedge]

be named barty

[clever widget]

battlefield 2 bots: shoots you, then heals you

[spiral robin]

nmf

[visual egret]

fixed

what else

[spare venture]

well, i mean you're going to have a tough time trying to do something like making a good server and advertising it well at 13

[crystal compass]

oof

[spare venture]

odds aren't in your favor

[crystal compass]

he's not wrong

[visual egret]

i already bribed a velocity dev to make a version of velocity that supports the combat updates

i mean

bribed without money

[zealous wedge]

niche updates aren't a way to get large player counts :p

[spare venture]

mhm

[mossy vessel]

nic(h)e updates

[visual egret]

well im working on stuff

[crystal compass]

make servers until you're 18

you'll be good

[spare venture]

haha

[crystal compass]

no joke I think experience is a big play there

[visual egret]

im working on an smp to keep my servers from being relatively dead

[limpid comet]

ur server will get 10000s of players if u use casino crash epic bluely plugin

[spare venture]

experience and maturity

[visual egret]

bluely

you know quantum

does it have an api

[limpid comet]

bruh

[spiral robin]

..

[limpid comet]

.g quantum random spawn spigot

read the page

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/quantum-modern-wild-random-spawn-rtp-reimagined.86902/

[spare venture]

mmmm

[visual egret]

ok great

[crystal compass]

jesus lol

[spare venture]

he got banned for spamming chat with song lyrics

[crystal compass]

im kind of frustrated with the amount of duping that has spread rn

[spare venture]

lol after discovering a new dupe in my market plugin every day for a week, i gave up on caring about duping too much

[crystal compass]

shit's everywhere

[spare venture]

most people who dupe don't share it with others

[crystal compass]

I disabled loading in creative hotbars

[wide chasm]

A wise choice

[crystal compass]

well i've been pretty unlucky actually

random players just decide that they want to try to ruin the server

form small groups

then they spread it as much as possible

[spare venture]

i found that someone left a line in my marketplace plugin that basically duped our custom items whenever used in our market

[crystal compass]

this guy editted bank notes and loaded them in with custom nbt to -1million to anyone who used this +2500$ note

[spare venture]

lol never use bank notes

just encouraging people to dupe them

[crystal compass]

probably right

guy loaded in command blocks even

[spare venture]

easier to deal with someone having a shulker full of diamond blocks vs. someone having infinite money

[crystal compass]

i'm just concerned that there is more ways to dupe then what I found

[wide chasm]

There are, you're not gonna catch everything

[spare venture]

creative is just full of exploits

[visual egret]

speedrunning

only took me 2 minutes

[wide chasm]

Creative has always been terrible and saved hotbars make it even worse

[crystal compass]

Yeah I just had a limited version of creative in my top rank that overtime 40-50 people paid for

:l

[wide chasm]

The amount of bs you can get on a server with the right NBT tags is staggering

[crystal compass]

and people heard I was considering removing it due to duping and raged

so i guess i'm trying to avoid dealing with that

I don't understand why i've had so much bad luck with dupers

can't just be bad luck

all of them literally have the attitude "lets destroy the server as much as possible and spread it all and troll everyone "

i'm just like w h y

[worn ember]

Why not just idk. Use the plugin instead of redoing it

[spare venture]

no

[visual egret]

i have so much planned

i just dont have enough time to finish it all off

[worn ember]

So you decide to redo it

[visual egret]

i need to finish quantum

then i need to finish another thing

then i can actually start focusing on backend stuff

[spare venture]

how do you not have enough time

[visual egret]

because writing quantum is taking ages

[spare venture]

what is quantum

[visual egret]

like

one group of projects that keeps my entire network together

[spare venture]

okie

[visual egret]

earlier i was asking about react- that was the one frontend for quantum

right now its just json api's that are somewhat working

which isnt very easy to use

anyway my guess is that the first proper games will be out sometime before June

[spare venture]

oh minigames

[visual egret]

dont worry

im not gonna spilt the community up too hard

ill make one or two and will update them until it grows big enough

[worn ember]

cant really split 0

[visual egret]

thats why im developing an smp to keep the server a bit alive and gain a playerbase

excluding me, its been averaging about 0 players for the last few months

when i had an smp at least i had 1 player on that wasnt me most of the time

[mossy vessel]

🆗

[worn ember]

those are some sadge numbers

[visual egret]

ded

best thing is

i didnt advertise

at all

[worn ember]

i'd hope so

[visual egret]

it was literally just one minecraft server list

[waxen panther]

ok!

[worn ember]

brocc ur fat

[visual egret]

thats mean

brocc is nice

[spiral robin]

You had 1 server list and you're bragging about having 1 player online?

@waxen panther

[visual egret]

which noone voted one

and im not bragging

[worn ember]

https://i.imgur.com/emetCkN.png ah yes, good old minecraft builds

[visual egret]

thats nice

[worn ember]

wish i had a pic of my tree of life

i spend hours working on that

all survival too

[visual egret]

ok

[worn ember]

ok

[spare venture]

can't even see it @worn ember

[visual egret]

party is blind confirmed

[worn ember]

well its dark, and i think its a bit edited too

[spare venture]

very dark

[worn ember]

i dont have another one

its like 5 years ago

[spare venture]

sick

i turned my brightness up and could see some of it, it nice

[worn ember]

https://i.imgur.com/cNC3Zba.png lmao then theres also this

[spare venture]

weird resource pack

not a fan

the planks look bad IMO

[worn ember]

sucks to be you

[visual egret]

what the fuck

[waxen panther]

[visual egret]

why did debain start speaking ancient greek

[worn ember]

why didnt you

[visual egret]

what

help

how to fix

[worn ember]

Yes

[visual egret]

whats so funny

[waxen panther]

Yep

[visual egret]

brocc you make as much sense as terminal

[spare venture]

greek lol

[visual egret]

anyone know a good guide on how to use prism

[dusky pine]

Terminal rights!

Terminals have their rights!

[visual egret]

wut

[dusky pine]

It's their right what language they speak!

[visual egret]

kekvv

moment

[spare venture]

why are you using prism

[dusky pine]

yesn't

[visual egret]

because simple told me to

[spare venture]

why

is there something wrong with coreprotect (besides closed source)

[visual egret]

because i asked if i should install coreprotect on my server

[spare venture]

simple doesn't run a server

[visual egret]

simple has a rank on this discord

id assume they know more than i do

[limpid comet]

prism is good

[mossy vessel]

More like StaticProtect

[spare venture]

i'm just curious what your issues were with coreprotect

[visual egret]

idk

ask simple

[cunning raft]

coreprotect is a yikes

works fine most of the time

but Intelli has been saying he'll go open source for years

and still hasn't

claiming the "code is too messy"

[visual egret]

is it obfuscated

[woven otter]

it must be really messy to keep it closed source

[warm anchor]

He doesn’t want JRoy to dumpster his code

[mossy vessel]

[visual egret]

ooh

matrix 6.0 is a rewrite

interesting

[tropic flame]

CoreProtect 3 was supposed to be the open source version... it's in version 19 and nothing open yet 🤣

[woven otter]

pings Intelli

[visual egret]

i mean, hes online 👀

who has the balls to do it

[cunning raft]

who cares

we'll get the same canned response

"aNyOnE iS fReE tO hELp wiTh tHe cLeAnuP aNd sEe CoDe"

[visual egret]

How can they help if they dont have src 👀

[limpid comet]

Presumably they'd have access

[zealous wedge]

he gives people access

[cunning raft]

it's been on "his todo list" for years and nothing has come of it

too busy to hit "make public" on a github repo

unlucky!

[woven otter]

that is really sad

[golden gust]

last I heard, the people who where basically doing that kinda gave up and moved on

[waxen panther]

so surprising

[cunning raft]

because i doubt the plan was ever to open source it

[waxen panther]

everyone has shit code on their github at some point, just open source it zzzz

[woven otter]

even slimefun is open source

[golden gust]

Well, I mean, he came back, started working on CO a bit and said he'd open source it, got some people on, butchered admincraft, started working on some premium worldedit alternative, and I ain't really heard much since

once in a blue moon he shows up 🤷‍♂️

[waxen panther]

lulwut premium worldedit alternative

[cunning raft]

yeah coreedit

[woven otter]

FasterAsyncWordEdit

[cunning raft]

worldedit+ coreprotect

[waxen panther]

wtf coreprotect has $500 a month on patreon

pain

[woven otter]

wat

[waxen panther]

https://patreon.com/coreprotect

[magic river]

WE paste and CoreProtect rollback are similar problems, I guess

And paste is the hard part, the rest is just a lot of code

[mossy vessel]

It has turned into what AWE is doing for years from what I've heard.

[woven otter]

wat is that

not awe

but what were they doing

[mossy vessel]

Free builds on spigot and premium builds somewhere else.

[woven otter]

hmmm

[waxen panther]

ah