general

[worn ember]

just drive your instuctor into the wall

[untold copper]

wozzat

[limber knot]

yea it's first stopped, or to the right if tie

[spare venture]

In the US the law is counter clockwise first stopped or whatever

Ye

[golden gust]

Only issue we generally have is the priority douches

Its my right of way!

[spare venture]

Honestly when it has happened to me it’s usually people try to let others go when they should be going

[golden gust]

Yea, but, the guy was literally 3/4's of the way through before you decided to drive in the wrong lane just to assert your right of way

[spare venture]

So I just go “alright fuck it guess I’m going”

[golden gust]

Well, I mean, so long as it's not total traffic jam, people generally aim to be nice

[limber knot]

yea that's often what happens

[zealous wedge]

in Oregon, the law is "sit and wait and hope someone else goes first"

in BC nobody knows how to drive

[untold copper]

in india is either move or be moved over

[golden gust]

Like, slowing down a bit to let somebody in when you know there is a ton of traffic behind you is generally somewhat of a norm here

[zealous wedge]

and ppl are fairly aggressive

[golden gust]

only issue is when the person tryna pull out is a granny so you either basically end up stopping or just call fuck it and carry on

[spare venture]

My city is typically in the top 10-20 of worst drivers in America

[limber knot]

depends on person and road, but yea, same here

[zealous wedge]

supposedly Alberta is worse I guess

[spare venture]

Mainly because the roads here are fucked

So poorly designed

[mossy vessel]

Imagine knowing to drive

Alongside with others

[spare venture]

We have multiple signs that say “warning dangerous intersection”

[golden gust]

tom scott did a good video on some area where the turn is literally a blind spot

Like, full on 100% no fucker can see one another type angles

[zealous wedge]

oh yeah

[spare venture]

That’s pretty common

You just gotta inch out and pray

[zealous wedge]

lol watch the video

it's extra bad

[worn ember]

😏

[zealous wedge]

wat

[golden gust]

didn't know DED swung the way for that to actually matter

I mean, wat

[spare venture]

Your gaydar must be malfunctioning

[golden gust]

I mean, in a lot of places where people generally have issues with traffic, it's generally not so much a road design issue specifically as much a "they forgot some humans are asshats"

the dashcam vids from the UK are generally comical

[worn ember]

have you seen the russian ones tho

[golden gust]

common theme is morons ripping around roundabouts, morons not understanding the right of way of round abouts, morons expecting trucks to be able to slow down on a dime (not that we don't share that one with the US), or, morons and country roads

some parts of the UK, getting around anywhere in a reasonable amount of time means a short stroll across a country road

and there is always some moron tryna go national speed limit on the thing

[limber knot]

roundabouts are a rarity here

[spare venture]

Roundabouts have become more common here

[craggy notch]

Anyone know how to exempt yourself from the default gamemode?

[spare venture]

People are bad at them tho

what plugin

[craggy notch]

I have LuckPerms

[spare venture]

okay but what plugin is setting your default gamemode

[craggy notch]

thats not a plugin its the Server.properties

[limber knot]

inb4 multiverse

[spare venture]

so just change your gamemode

[craggy notch]

Oh wait possibly multiverse

[spare venture]

it'll stick

uh huh i knew it

[craggy notch]

lol

[limber knot]

I wish there was a way to turn that off

[spare venture]

there is

[limber knot]

where

[worn ember]

lmao

[spare venture]

there's a bypass permission

[limber knot]

oh

well

not part of op by default

[worn ember]

dum robo

[spare venture]

who fuckin uses op

[limber knot]

want it to be that way for my test serbur

don't wanna b dealin with perms on a heccin test serbur for chunkgen

[spare venture]

mv.bypass.gamemode.WORLDNAME

[craggy notch]

k

[limber knot]

I make a ton of worlds testing out generators

[spare venture]

robo, your server is a test server lets be honest

[limber knot]

I don't test chunk generators on dat lul

[craggy notch]

That didn't work C_C

[limber knot]

but otherwise yes

[spare venture]

yes it did

because that's the permission

[craggy notch]

Bruh

[spare venture]

either you're opped or have something conflicting

[craggy notch]

I am opped

[golden gust]

inb4 they granted that literal perm

[spare venture]

i wish it were that simple cat

don't op yourself devwaffle

[limber knot]

why not op urself

[craggy notch]

Hold on

[spare venture]

because he has a permissions plugin

[golden gust]

op is a bad/dated concept

[craggy notch]

What permission would be conflicting with that?

[limber knot]

it's better than * urself

[spare venture]

just deop yourself

that's the conflict

[limber knot]

unless somehow * is now acceptable

how would op conflict

[golden gust]

• and op are considered bad

[spare venture]

because op is just dumb

[golden gust]

mainly on the basis that you have no idea what you're granting

[spare venture]

ye

[mental meadow]

well yes

everything

[limber knot]

I b owner, I want all dem perms

[spare venture]

then give yourself the perms brainhead

[craggy notch]

What is the node that is conflicting

[golden gust]

Dev, we don't know

[limber knot]

got no time 4 dat

[worn ember]

ur considered bad

[spare venture]

it doesn't matter what node is conflicting

[golden gust]

go use verbose mode in your perm plugin or read the docs

[spare venture]

deop yourself

[worn ember]

delete the server

yeet it through the window

[limber knot]

most of the time when I'm on my serbur I'm doin admin stuff anyway

so am almost always gonna need 2 b elevated

[spare venture]

why not just create a group with those perms

and that way you don't have to worry about conflicts

[limber knot]

I have 87 plogens rite now

[spare venture]

lazy

[limber knot]

I'll gib u a /lp editor and u can do dat

[golden gust]

itt, robo slipped on a dildo of plugins and loved it too much

[spare venture]

do you actually add perms using the web editr

[limber knot]

recently

cuz wow so ez

[spare venture]

oh i only use it for visualizing what perms they already have, and for maybe removing

[limber knot]

no need to deal with the syntax (which is fine, I do like verbose syntax tbh)

but for doing multiple perms it's a pain

[spare venture]

yeah

[limber knot]

the one thing groupman got right

[spare venture]

luckperms is very nce tho

[twin lagoon]

luckperms web editor is fantastic cc: @meager tusk

[spare venture]

its definitely very nice for visualizing

[limber knot]

per world perms are kind of a pain, especially if u wanna group 'em tho

u can kinda do it with world aliases

rate my perms https://editor.luckperms.net/amWrFVB3r3

[void void]

hey do anyone know a plugin which do the following :
when someone say x word a message linked to x word is said
like if someone say the word report the console do /msg player and say : you can report people in here : link

[golden gust]

I've used the editor a handful off times

[void void]

is it possible ? do anybody know a plugin for so didnt find one

[spare venture]

The weight is 9001

Wow

[golden gust]

I could never see myself actually configuring a servers perms in the web editor

[limber knot]

that's invoked when person switches to creative gamemode lol

iirc

or no

that's the minigames worlds

I can't remember

at some point I wanna have it where other admins can grant perms

with exception of some other perms

seems LP does provide a way to do that which is kewl but that's gonna b effort to figure that out

[spare venture]

well, you can give them permission to promote along tracks

[meager tusk]

I fucking hate you

[twin lagoon]

[meager tusk]

Well, luckperms web editor isn't as good as your rollback mechanisms

[clever widget]

luck perm

[mental meadow]

bungeeperms

[clever widget]

what

[mental meadow]

the og

[zealous wedge]

what's confusing abt what she said?

[clever widget]

what about bungeeperms

you just said bungeeperms

and thats it

[limber knot]

well barty moreso if new plugins arise, I wanna allow 'em to add themselves to it

so predefined tracks won't cut it

[golden gust]

I had so many stupid issues with bungee perms

[twin lagoon]

bungeeperms zzzzzz

[spare venture]

that's just you being lazy robo lol

[golden gust]

listen here, fuck breath

I willl fite you

I had it installed on a server oh so many dozens of years ago, we had persistent issues with the darned thing

might a mention, that UUID support was not a thing that was default for a while

That was one thing that caught me out like a bitch coz you had to go enable UUID support manually or something

[mental meadow]

yea

it's old 😄 but we changed that

[clever widget]

i like luck perms

it works and its good

[craggy notch]

Hey is there a command that isn't tellraw that can send a message to a player?

[clever widget]

hell it even has database migration

[craggy notch]

and isn't /msg

[mental meadow]

BungeePerms was made because Luckperms didn't exist yet :p

[golden gust]

Depends on your plugins

[clever widget]

whats a good ban plugin

[golden gust]

see the vanilla command list and the command list of your plugins or whatever

tellraw and whatever the whisper one is is all that vanilla offers last I recall

[clever widget]

whan ban plugin you use

what

[craggy notch]

Ok well then what is the permission node for only allowing the players to use the @p selector?

[golden gust]

there is none

[twin lagoon]

it's up for the plugin author to implement selectors

[clever widget]

whats the best plugin ever

[mossy vessel]

LagRemover

[clever widget]

wait does it actually live up to its claims

i used to use ClearLagg but it just removes entities and thats it, which isnt really good for survival

[zealous wedge]

TimTheEnchanter

[clever widget]

@mossy vessel

[worn ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STJQMQkF8uA hmmm

[cunning raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bmTaSHj_uw

[clever widget]

how did you find that

[worn ember]

it was on my front page

[cunning raft]

he posted that earlier today on twitter

[clever widget]

oh

[mossy vessel]

Can we put JRoy at the moon?

[worn ember]

he's too fat

[cunning raft]

says you

[clever widget]

can we put morgz on the moon

[woven otter]

for $10 ill put paper on the moon

[clever widget]

.jar

what version

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/NIWRwSIxy4A

[cunning raft]

photo only

[woven otter]

1.8.8

[worn ember]

1sec video too

[cunning raft]

or a 1sec video

[clever widget]

why not a .jar

[spiral robin]

Hello @mossy vessel @zealous wedge @mossy vessel @twin lagoon @mental meadow

[clever widget]

i really wanna put morgz on the moon

[twin lagoon]

[woven otter]

well encode a file into a picture

[cunning raft]

because storage is a limited resource

[zealous wedge]

good morning aber!

[mossy vessel]

Heyo

[spiral robin]

[clever widget]

what would morgz do on the moon

[warm anchor]

Aber

[cunning raft]

aber you should just tag the whole server

infact lets just get you @everyone perms

[clever widget]

what about using a MentionAll tool

[spiral robin]

But I don't want to say gm to everyone

@warm anchor

[cunning raft]

you should say gm to wizjany

[clever widget]

me

[cunning raft]

make sure to ping them too

[warm anchor]

Let’s tag him now

[spiral robin]

Ok but you first

[warm anchor]

No u

[spiral robin]

No

[warm anchor]

Wizjany talked here yesterday though

I saw it

[warm anchor]

Wow mad lad

[true canyon]

How about no? That's unnecessary.

[worn ember]

rooky numbers

[heady spear]

😦

[woven otter]

heh

[worn ember]

he should have

[woven otter]

hegemony

[topaz mortar]

city uwu (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[warm anchor]

It was a joke I will never tag without reason

Unless it’s @worn ember

[heady spear]

But has a good idea to get it out with you to do a good 😌 😌 😌 😌 is the most important player for this project in this world 🌍 🌍 and I are in my apartment for the next week

[spiral robin]

U can always tag me without reason

[pulsar wigeon]

it's not even fucking morning

[warm anchor]

[worn ember]

you souldnt tag people for no reason

[heady spear]

But has a good idea to get it out with you to do a good 😌 😌 😌 😌 is the most important player for this project in this world 🌍 🌍 and I are in my apartment for the next week

[worn ember]

[warm anchor]

Omg wizjany showed up

[worn ember]

always lurking

[woven otter]

omg wizjany

[heady spear]

if you whisper wiz's name thrice he'll creep out of the shadows and call you explicits

[warm anchor]

Have you done that often city?

[heady spear]

I've never interacted with wizjany

not once

[spiral robin]

Wiz

Wiz

Wiz

[warm anchor]

Lol

[spiral robin]

City is a liar

[heady spear]

It's all about perception

[spiral robin]

he did not call me explicits

[woven otter]

Wizjany

Wizjany

Wizjany

[heady spear]

If he has IRC pings on then rip.

[woven otter]

oops

[spiral robin]

not our fault if he chose to have em on

[heady spear]

If you have IRC pings on then it's your own fault, to be completely fair.

It pings me on "City" so I can know when you bastards talk smack about me

[woven otter]

or use irc at all

[warm anchor]

Lol

[worn ember]

City is such a weeb, smh we should bully City

[woven otter]

ye fuking city

the worst

[worn ember]

imagine having a god complex you rename yourself to an entire city

[heady spear]

says the dragon

[warm anchor]

Lol

[worn ember]

dragons are cool

unlike cities

[woven otter]

Imagine having a flame as an avatar

also a logo

[untold copper]

imagine being a fat duck

[warm anchor]

Why is it a dark eye dragon? Someone punched you?

[spiral robin]

Imagine being snoopa

[worn ember]

i read that as "fat fuck" lmfao

[spiral robin]

[woven otter]

imagine being a fat minecraft avatar

[untold copper]

kek

[worn ember]

[spare venture]

wiz doesn’t even get pinged that much

I’ve been pinged twice as much here as him

[worn ember]

ok mr party

its cuz if you ping him you'd get kicked

[heady spear]

Do remember that he had the permission to kick/ban people for doing so

[spare venture]

That just makes people more likely to ping hi m

[worn ember]

just the dum ones

[spare venture]

It became a joke to ping him because of how he reacted

[spiral robin]

I don't understand why some people are so irritated by pings

[warm anchor]

Actually it was to a point that some troll will come and ping on purpose irc

Coz of the reaction

[mossy vessel]

@spiral robin muh server not launching fix your plogin1!!!!!

[heady spear]

Some of us have a lot of servers where people have legitimate reasons to ping us

[spare venture]

Well I only like being pinged if it’s necessary

[livid wren]

Have any of y'all ever messed with the Minecraft protocol

[heady spear]

if random idiots start doing it for the lols then it distracts from the shit that does matter

[spiral robin]

🥺

[heady spear]

i.e. not you

[worn ember]

what matters to you city? minecraft nubs needing help?

[spiral robin]

[mossy vessel]

cute cute

[warm anchor]

Help city I need to setup plotsqweared

[spare venture]

How do I make a plot

[warm anchor]

Uwu

[heady spear]

There are very few people in this community I care about, very few I'm willing to help

the people that throw money at me are more likely to be on that list

[untold copper]

just ping zzzCat for help with petty issues

ez

[worn ember]

glad i feel the same then

[spare venture]

He’s only in it for the money!

[heady spear]

But I still warn people in IS for pinging me because they shouldn't

Oh, 100% am

which is why all of my shit is available for free, so I make more money

[warm anchor]

At least city ain’t pretending

[spare venture]

I feel like pinging is more common now that people actually use replies and are too lazy to unselect the ping option

[warm anchor]

Like other premium dev

[heady spear]

I wouldn't work on p2 if people didn't pay us

[worn ember]

still waiting for rtp on cloud smh

[heady spear]

I think I've been very honest about that lol

[worn ember]

@warm anchor do you have many dota players on your weeb server?

[warm anchor]

Yes

[worn ember]

are they good?

[warm anchor]

But my server is not for everyone

[spiral robin]

[worn ember]

wow i see how it is

[warm anchor]

Your weeb level has to be as high as broccolai

[worn ember]

yeah nvm then

[warm anchor]

He’s got 8000 message alresdy

He joined like a week ago

[spiral robin]

@waxen panther

[warm anchor]

He’s probably dead

Was playing apex with someone in my server lol until my morning lmao

[woven otter]

ping pong

[spiral robin]

Of course he was

[livid wren]

why is the Minecraft protocol so confusing

[warm anchor]

@worn ember I will give you verified role if you join

[woven otter]

don't

[spare venture]

you never gave it to me when I joined

[vernal moth]

is it tho?

[woven otter]

it's a trap

[spiral robin]

Is verified role rare eternity

[warm anchor]

Yes

[worn ember]

🤔

[warm anchor]

Actually

[livid wren]

For me it is. I'm so confused

[spiral robin]

Pog I feel so special

[worn ember]

Verified weeb

[warm anchor]

We gave them to YouTuber with 300k subs or up

[spiral robin]

heh

[mossy vessel]

Special snowflake

[spare venture]

Why didn’t you give it to me 🥺

[mossy vessel]

runs

[warm anchor]

[livid wren]

let data = format_bytes!(b"{}{}{}{}{}{}", &[00], 754_i32.to_be_bytes(), 9_i32.to_be_bytes(), format!("{}", "localhost").as_bytes(), 25565_u16.to_be_bytes(), &[02]);

I've got no clue what I'm doing here but it no work

[spiral robin]

Wouldn't be surprised if brocc has a secret weeb channel

[heady spear]

wtf evenf is eternity's server

[warm anchor]

Party you left I saw it but party ain’t weeb

[heady spear]

and why is it a big deal

[spiral robin]

Stop uwu

[heady spear]

I am very confused

[spare venture]

It’s a weeb server

[warm anchor]

It’s just a weeb hub city

A decent size one

[spare venture]

Very large very weeby

[mossy vessel]

👀

[heady spear]

Why though

[woven otter]

let me join eternity i have something to say

[heady spear]

why are weebs so weird

[spare venture]

It’s really weird

[worn ember]

you're literally one yourself

[heady spear]

I enjoy cringy teen dramas but I don't join random riverdale communities

[spare venture]

Right

Weebs turn it into their entire personality sometimes

[heady spear]

whereas all weebs just seem to seek each other out to create one big dysfunctional and socially awkward blob

very strange, someone should study them

[livid wren]

This is depressing

[worn ember]

@warm anchor smurfing weirdchamp

[warm anchor]

Lol wtf

[worn ember]

we got rekt the next game tho

[warm anchor]

Forced 50

[worn ember]

haha true

[warm anchor]

Is real thing tbh since the MM is sometimes over reacting to your good game

[worn ember]

ive had 6-7 winstreaks tho

so not really

[warm anchor]

Wow god gamer

[worn ember]

its really more if you get good mm or not

like you get a legend carry, enemy get a legend support

carry is gonna have way more impact than the support

[warm anchor]

Hmm

[worn ember]

and everyone has shit games ig

[proper lynx]

Does anyone knows a good and free anticheat for 1.16.5?

[twin lagoon]

updated-nocheatplus

[proper lynx]

Where can I download it?

[twin lagoon]

.g updated-nocheatplus

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/Updated-NoCheatPlus/NoCheatPlus

[twin lagoon]

[proper lynx]

Thanks

[void void]

Does anyone have a fully vannila Smp for 1.16.4 that i could join?

[proper lynx]

How can I search phpmyadmin files on my linux server?

[clever widget]

i hate applebees

i hate applebees

[true canyon]

Today's fun support item: "I can't use [command] because someone's name has spaces in it"

[clever widget]

looooooooooool

that's hard

[mossy vessel]

Typical issues

[clever widget]

wait how many names are there that have spaces

[mossy vessel]

[proven scarab]

i thought mojang removed them all

[spiral robin]

Online-mode=false

[proven scarab]

or that

[clever widget]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[true canyon]

Yep, as aber said.

Yep, as aber said.

I'd assume that if you're going to run such a server you'd take precautions to avoid problematic names but hey, here we are.

[mossy vessel]

If you are running an offline mode server I frankly assume you don't care about that.

[true canyon]

"about that" - things like commands working? lol

[warm anchor]

“But I own Minecraft myself so I pay for the offline server “ /s

[limber knot]

we should pass powershell objects in commands

[mossy vessel]

Oh, that sounds wrong. The latter you refers to you as person trying to help, whoops

[clever widget]

i dont like cracked

[tropic flame]

how does offline-mode even allow spaces in player games wtf

[clever widget]

because then you can use any name you want

[tropic flame]

ok but

[clever widget]

including ones with spaces

[golden gust]

there is literally 0 verifiication on the name

[tropic flame]

well right

[clever widget]

bypass mojang authentication

[zealous wedge]

the server itself doesn't validate names, that's on the mojang accounts system

[tropic flame]

well that's on them for not using the option on AuthMe to kick people with illegal names, then

[spare venture]

Yes

[clever widget]

EXACTLY

[golden gust]

well, yes

[tropic flame]

they could still avoid it without online-mode

[limber knot]

kinda like dumcord ya know

[visual stag]

is there a plugin to enable sand duping for paper

[spare venture]

Generally people who run offline mode servers aren’t the brightest

[golden gust]

but you're assuming that offline mode server owners are willing to accept the implications of disabling all those protections

[spare venture]

Lmao

[limber knot]

have rando utf chars in there or is it restricted to ansi

[visual stag]

ik its impossible with no plugins but idk

[spare venture]

Just give them /give

It’s the same thing

[visual stag]

no

not really

[tropic flame]

i guess some of them are not even aware of the implications

[visual stag]

not on an smp

[tropic flame]

because most can be avoided in other ways

[spare venture]

Duping is /give with extra steps

No

[olive garden]

breaking blocks is /give with extra steps

[tropic flame]

how would this interfer? the server software still offers an online-mode switch

[spare venture]

Ye trigram

[tropic flame]

so it is still possible to pull something off

[spare venture]

Video games are just dopamine releases with extra steps

[visual stag]

placing blocks is /clear with more steps

[limber knot]

barty is an extra step

[spare venture]

Anyway if you can’t figure out how to enable duping, maybe it is better to just leave it off

[visual stag]

breaking blocks is just /setblock air with extra step

[tropic flame]

i personally don't care as i used to be one of them until 2019 when a friend bought me an account ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[visual stag]

k

[tropic flame]

so i get where they come from

but meh

[golden gust]

you can't re-enable sand

[tropic flame]

it's a fight that's not worth fighting

[visual stag]

mmmmmmmmm

[spare venture]

Ahh

Re enable it with /give

[golden gust]

and, not aware of any plugins, there is a fork of paper which has that patch removed

[visual stag]

what about plugins/scripts/datapacks

[golden gust]

don't remember the name, try using the search.

[visual stag]

m

[spare venture]

Put a button at spawn that runs “/give player sand 64” every time they push it

Same thing right?

[visual stag]

no

[spare venture]

I’ll never understand exploiters

[limber knot]

when I ran an offline mode server way back when I was very aware of the implications so I'm fine with the general antagonistic approach. Doesn't need to be harsh but sufficient to know that you've disabled that sort of stuff

[visual stag]

im not the one duping my frined is

idk he has like 40 days on the smp

[spare venture]

You could just use vanilla as it barely patches any exploits

[tropic flame]

can't you just make a plugin that opens an inventory on command with free sand that can be taken out to your own inventory

[spare venture]

But yeah people don’t generally make plugins to reimplement exploits

[tropic flame]

it'd be easier than Reenabling the duping

[spare venture]

No apparently he doesn’t want that

[tropic flame]

then he's out of luck

[visual stag]

i use plugins like dynmap and discordSRV

[tropic flame]

download an old build or something

[visual stag]

m

[tropic flame]

make a command block loop that spawns sand at a specified location

this one's even vanilla compatible 👌

[visual stag]

m

idk

also why does my tps go down to 14 with 5 people online with one next to a giant base'

rn its fine but its cause noone is at the base

[tropic flame]

the big servers seem to know about the implications too lmao, i just guess that kids don't 😂

[limber knot]

if ur a boneheaded kid then sure

[visual stag]

hm who is contorling the bot

waiit

[golden gust]

back in the days, we used to just have shit like mines which reset

[visual stag]

its a webhook

huh

[tropic flame]

the bot is a bridge between discord and IRC

[visual stag]

idk what irc is

forgot

[tropic flame]

yeah it's a webhook actually

or idfk

it used to be a bot

[visual stag]

it is cause it doesnt have a tag

[golden gust]

you still had to put in the effort to mine it out, etc, but, for a game of waiting or a small fee, you'd have a mine full of a few ores

[tropic flame]

but then IRC users had inferiority complex and they made it look like they're really discord users

[visual stag]

and u cant ping it

[tropic flame]

fun times for the IRC boomers

[limber knot]

webhook is 2 help out dumcordians like u

I care less about the webhook

u all da same 2 me

[visual stag]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

no

[limber knot]

that being said, webhook perms r pretty kewl

[clever widget]

whats the best java

[true canyon]

"the best java"

[limber knot]

free nitro lul

[true canyon]

That's pretty subjective. I prefer tea.

[visual stag]

mhm

[quasi valley]

the webhook is just so 90 year olds like you can get with the times

[visual stag]

m

[limber knot]

ah yes, the times where u pay up for dumojis

[visual stag]

🆗

[quasi valley]

yeah fair, but like

imagine paying discord 10 bucks a months for emojis

[visual stag]

i used to have nitro

[quasi valley]

I just have people buy it for me

[tropic flame]

I'd rather pay for emojis than to pay for the entire server i want to speak in

[visual stag]

same

[clever widget]

can i buy a minecraft 2 billion dollar

[tropic flame]

pfft, it's available for like

[limber knot]

I don't pay tho

[tropic flame]

26.95€?

notch was dumb

[clever widget]

no

[tropic flame]

/s

[clever widget]

2 billion

[limber knot]

okay tho I'd also rather be 90 than 9 years old

like dino and boi

[clever widget]

bruh why do people think that im young

[worn ember]

[spiral robin]

[mossy vessel]

[clever widget]

i could get cheap nitro

$5/3months

[mossy vessel]

https://i.imgur.com/ZlVSDdR.png

k

[clever widget]

i know a guy

[spare venture]

😳

[mossy vessel]

kenni being jealous because nobody uwus him

[spare venture]

is about to start selling emoji packs on my server

[quasi valley]

lmao this looks like a tap https://i.imgur.com/PaABclH.png

[worn ember]

Me: i'm always out of ram
Also me:

[spare venture]

Haha

Twitter emojis are free to use commercially

[limber knot]

that's nothing

[tropic flame]

replace chrome and the discord client with Firefox and done

[spare venture]

So I’m sellin em

[austere trellis]

Hi. Good afternoon /nights, etc. I came to ask if anyone knows of a plugin, datapack, or a simple command that helps me to give and have for example golden apples with different effects? For example, like in uhc with player heads that make the golden head and stuff like that

[visual stag]

you can use skript although just making ur own plugin is better

[limber knot]

I know of a plugin that does that... but it has no docs 👀

if you are fine with figuring stuff out yourself: https://github.com/Phoenix616/SpecialItems xD

[visual stag]

wtf my friend has 519 experience lkevels

[limber knot]

so?

[visual stag]

thats a lot

[limber knot]

don't you get that by just killing the ender dragon a couple times or simply using an exp farm?

[spare venture]

519 is a lot

[visual stag]

we've never resummoned the dragon

[limber knot]

pretty sure it stops scaling after some amount

[visual stag]

i think

im broke in the smp

[spare venture]

nah it's exponential all the way

[visual stag]

it goes negative at integer limit

i thikn

[spare venture]

dragon drops 12k exp, level 519 is 1,130,007

something tells me he cheated

[visual stag]

he didnt

[limber knot]

that's just 100 dragons :P

[visual stag]

he's not opped

[wraith trail]

you would need to kill the dragon 94 times to get that

[spare venture]

they said they haven't resummoned the dragon

[visual stag]

idk

i mean he does have 40 days of playtime

[limber knot]

pretty sure there was an issue with taking in too much experience orbs at once or something

[spare venture]

idk how effective mob farms are since i nerf them heavily

[mental meadow]

40 days lol

[wraith trail]

or killed 226001 mobs in whatever farm

[visual stag]

theres a farm that makes 117 levels an hour

from 0 to 117

[spare venture]

i've had a large chunk of people with more than 30 days on my server in the past year

[wraith trail]

yeah but that decreases over time

[visual stag]

this smp only has 15 players

[spare venture]

okay

thanks for the @

[visual stag]

bro u said that like 2 seconds vefore i responded

i'd think ur still in the discord chat

[spare venture]

i assume t is days?

[woven otter]

no

[visual stag]

i have no idea what that is

[mental meadow]

Yes

[woven otter]

😐

[spare venture]

context plz

[visual stag]

im bad

[mental meadow]

I have 233 days on that server

[spare venture]

o

[visual stag]

tf

this smp has been running for around 3/4 a year

[mental meadow]

And I'm like in place 30 or smth

[spare venture]

i have people with over 90 days from the past year on my server actually

[visual stag]

i have 1000 hours in hypixel skyblock does that count

[vernal bone]

5,5K hours

[visual stag]

bro

wha

the

frick

[limber knot]

https://i.moep.tv/gcYPcJ1n.png 👀

[visual stag]

how get that

last online 3 days ago

hm

[limber knot]

I don't play Minecraft anymore ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[visual stag]

i havent even mned a single ancient debris

oh

ok

[vernal bone]

How long since that server is running?

[limber knot]

also technically that data is incorrect, I played on that server since fall 2011 but the plugin where this data is from (logblock) only got added in january 2012

summer 2011

[true canyon]

Thanks, Reddit.

[limber knot]

also funily enough most of my actual active playtime was in 2011 lol, so it's probably missing a couple hundred hours

.g xkcd wisdom of the ancient

(phoenix616) https://xkcd.com/979/

xkcd: Wisdom of the Ancients

All long help threads should have a sticky globally-editable post at the top saying 'DEAR PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE: Here's what we've figured out so far ...'

[visual stag]

does LogBlock work with 1.16

probvably not

its 1.7-1.8

[limber knot]

sure

[visual stag]

oh

[limber knot]

it's one of the oldest and longest working plugins

[visual stag]

was looking at old plugin

[mental meadow]

It doesn't really rely on anything so it just keeps working

It just has some really shitty sql stuff

[limber knot]

well it DOES rely on people wanting to work with that code 👀

[golden gust]

shitty sql is basically defacto in this community

[vernal bone]

That also means that the server has the old chunks, and the old oceans right? 🤔

[visual stag]

does it lag the server a whole ton?

[limber knot]

I'm eternaly grateful for Brokkonaut picking that up instead of me having to maintain that lol

[spare venture]

there's nothing like saying "oh wait I figured it out" on a forum

[limber knot]

@S​im​on​. no, we retire old maps

[visual stag]

ik the best bug report leme get it

[vernal bone]

Oh

[mental meadow]

It tried updating like 500mb of database stuff at once while starting the server a few weeks ago

[visual stag]

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCPE-4054

look at that bug

quality

[golden gust]

I mean, it's always fun

We often have people coming in saying stuff like raids don't work

and then we have somebody who we know knows a bit about the game, will go check and be like "hey, it's working"

[mossy vessel]

@spiral robin

[waxen panther]

@spiral robin

[spiral robin]

🥺

[mossy vessel]

[worn ember]

@olive garden ur not funni

[visual stag]

funy ahaha

[olive garden]

REEEEE DON'T PING ME

[worn ember]

sorry my finger slipped on the ping button

[visual egret]

wat

whos removing the thinking reaction

[olive garden]

drek

do you know what should have slipped?

[void void]

some plugin developer can help me with a question that's not technical at all, just a need for a suggestion?

[limber knot]

.ask

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

[visual stag]

^

[coarse lily]

Try "Deletedreddit". Sometimes it can bring those back.

[void void]

so, what's the best path to learn plugin development with the paper API besides only reading the javadocs? My daily work is with Java but I'm not an expert, and even tho I'm used to read documentation I didn't really "find myself" only reading paper API javadocs, and there's too much youtube tutorials and they seem all outdated.

[true canyon]

Yeah, often helps, but still very frustrating! 😄

[coarse lily]

Oh yeah for sure.

[limber knot]

.g bukkit wiki plugin tutorial

(phoenix616) https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/Plugin_Tutorial

[worn ember]

why dont you tell me

[limber knot]

read that @void void it goes over the general stuff for plugins

[olive garden]

because I don't want to get banned

[void void]

it seens even more outdated

but I'll believe in you

[limber knot]

just replace any reference of "bukkit" with "paper-api"

[void void]

because you have "BOT" tag

[limber knot]

that's the way to do it!

trust your AI overlords! :)

[void void]

HAHAHAHA

for sure

literally just replace bukkit with paper-api? in imports? maven? everything?

[limber knot]

not in code

for the maven info see paper docs

everything else is the same

[clever widget]

should i use craftbukkit or paper

[warm anchor]

Paper

[limber knot]

you are in this discord...

[clever widget]

craftbukkit is best i think

[limber knot]

craftbukkit is dead

if you like dead things, sure. you do you

[clever widget]

lol im joking

craftbukkit

lol

[peak ginkgo]

"if you like dead things" you have bigger issues

[limber knot]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[warm anchor]

Necro in my discord

[clever widget]

https://prnt.sc/xkdw5d

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-01-24_22-41-17.png

Bungee secured.

[visual egret]

🧠

[potent fossil]

[limber knot]

today I for some reason browsed spigot recent posts and have found this https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/minecraft-cpu.482710/#post-4064178

oof

[potent fossil]

https://xkcd.com/989/ lol

xkcd: Cryogenics

'Welcome to the future! Nothing's changed.' was the slogan of my astonishingly short-lived tech startup.

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) xkcd: Cryogenics (12 December 2011)

[spare venture]

Spoiler spigot people generally are clueless

[limber knot]

s/spigot /

Correction, <DiscordBot> <03p​ar​ty​> Spoiler ** **people generally are clueless

runs

[spare venture]

Yeah but spigot forums are a special kinda dum

Too accessible to people who are cljeless

Clueless

[limber knot]

glances at Discord

more like strange than dum

I've seen much more dum here

[warm anchor]

Robo dum dum

[limber knot]

yes u have the occasional dum on forums but it's not as often as here

dumcord is the gift that keeps on giving in this case

or the mistake, I should say

[spare venture]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-boomer-the-office-old-man-michael-scott-gif-15530652

[limber knot]

ok dumcordian

[spare venture]

A new kotor game is supposedly being developed 👀

[waxen panther]

wtf

@spare venture source ?? ???

cant be throwing around words like that

[cosmic raft]

wtf is a kotor

sounds like a kotlin library name

[waxen panther]

knights of the old republic

best game ever made

[limber knot]

explain how it is best game

[waxen panther]

cuz its FLAWLESS

and EPIC

[spare venture]

It’s a rumor

https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-kotor-ea-bioware-remake

[limber knot]

oh so everything u aren't, got it

[golden gust]

Star wars

No thx

[spare venture]

Kotor 1 and 2 are very good games

93 and 85 on metacritic

They play like DND games but Star Wars, with a compelling story and a fun universe

No bs like fetch 5 deer skin quests either

And they are thousands of years before the movies, so they aren’t wrapped up in that shitty storyline

[vernal moth]

Haha an EA game

And an RPG?

[spare venture]

The rumor says not by EA

[vernal moth]

Prepare for lootboxes and tons of other micro payments

Oh I read wrong

[spare venture]

BioWare made the first game and Obsidian made the second game

Both studios used to be so good

[vernal moth]

Obsidian are msft now, right?

[spare venture]

I believe they are owned by them yeah, their recent game was the outer worlds which I believe was good but not great

Oh 85 on metacritic I was wrong

I remember watching the gameplay reveal and it seemed pretty generic, maybe it improved a lot

With Microsoft acquiring obsidian and Bethesda, I would imagine obsidians next game will be exclusive to Xbox/pc and am curious about Bethesda

Did they purchade zenimax too?

Purchase

Fuck they did

[vernal moth]

Isn't zenimax the parent or smth?

[spare venture]

Yeah

[vernal moth]

Also, does kotor run on consoles?

[spare venture]

Zenimax owned the studios behind doom, prey, dishonored, fallout, TES, quake, rage, etc

[vernal moth]

Who cares about consoles anyways

The real games are on PC

[spare venture]

Fuck that’s gonna be miserable if they start making those games exclusive

[waxen panther]

it was on consoles and pc

[spare venture]

Yeah I first played it on console

[waxen panther]

also they're not making the existing bethesda ips exclusive

maybe new ones though

[spare venture]

New ones yeah

[waxen panther]

and at worst it'll be 6months or a year

[spare venture]

Hopefully

[vernal moth]

Just get a PC?

Lol

[spare venture]

I couldn’t imagine missing out on new IPs like how Prey and Dishonored

Yeah mini let me go buy a $1000+ PC to replace my PS5

Prob well over $1,000 tbh

[vernal moth]

Can't you upgrade your current one?

[spare venture]

I have a laptop

[vernal moth]

That's the beauty of a PC

[spare venture]

Not really

[vernal moth]

You work from a laptop?

[coarse lily]

They bought id software, but didn't own id when doom/quake/etc were made.

[spare venture]

It’s significantly more expensive to maintain a PC than console

[vernal moth]

In the long run? Hell no

[spare venture]

Yes it is

[limber knot]

I like not having to pay for multiplayer or extra for games

[vernal moth]

Just the game prices alone

[spare venture]

Game prices are cheap on console

[limber knot]

80 bucks

👀

cheap

[vernal moth]

Games on PC cost a fraction compared to consoles

Thanks gaben

[spare venture]

Not true

[limber knot]

I personally just like having the choice, I can play whatever game I want on PC (eventually with exclusives)

I also have the choice of the operating system

or the hardware

or the input device(s)

[spare venture]

Console is significantly cheaper and has more high quality games, and you don’t have to worry about your console not running a game or running it poorly

[ashen cliff]

People do be speedrunning that Github ProtocolSupport Any% category again: https://posili.me/i/2021-01-24_23-45-39.png

[limber knot]

glances at all of those games not running well on last gen consoles but selling on them

[spare venture]

All of what games?

[vernal moth]

Because everything runs poorly compared to a PC, lol

[spare venture]

I’ve never had an issue or heard of an issue of games running poorly besides CP77

[vernal moth]

Dynamic resolution, low frame rates, etc

[limber knot]

also I like having the choice of investing tons of money to have stunning visuals

[spare venture]

That’s fair Phoenix

[limber knot]

I sit a meter away from my screen, having 720p and washed out textures is just not an option for me

(granted next gen console demos look pretty cool but almost no game actually uses that yet)

[spare venture]

I’m not aware of any games that ran 720p on the PS4

[vernal moth]

But i still stand by my point, if you are an active gamer and buy a bunch of games and stuff, a PC is way cheaper in the long run, even if you exclude that you can use it for work and stuff

[limber knot]

I guess my main issue is that I'm just not a controller player, lol

[spare venture]

The absolute lowest was 900p IIRC

[vernal moth]

Dynamic resolution makes that possible

[spare venture]

That’s so wrong it’s just funny mini

[limber knot]

most games are from the ego perspective and I get motion sick if I play them with a controller xD

[vernal moth]

The games drop down to shitty resolutions when the console has a power dip

[spare venture]

Never had that happen to me, lowest was 900p, never had frame drops below 30 on the PS4

[limber knot]

frames below 60 is not acceptable though?

[spare venture]

Can barely tell when sitting 10 feet away

[cosmic raft]

also

[spare venture]

Yes I agree with that but 8 years ago 60 fps was hard to achieve for $400

[cosmic raft]

to all the people who still say "Mojang" with a Y sound

which I know is some of you

https://twitter.com/Marc_IRL/status/1262066231399657475

Marc Watson (@Marc_IRL)

Also a new identity means that we can reinvent both the logo and pronounciation, so anything other than the hard J is incorrect now. 😋

Likes

258

Twitter · May 17, 2020, 5:03 PM

[vernal moth]

Well, if you play on a TV you don't notice shitty framerates cause if the input lag, lol

[cosmic raft]

Mojang is with a J :p

[limber knot]

also one used to have to invest tons of money into a TV with low reaction times :S

[spare venture]

Yeah but very few people actually care about that

[limber knot]

s/very few/people sitting miles away from the screen

Correction, <DiscordBot> <03p​ar​ty​> Yeah but people sitting miles away from the screen people actually care about that

[vernal moth]

Cause they used to the shitty input lag

[limber knot]

-people 👀

[vernal moth]

But once you know the difference, you can't go back

[spare venture]

Doubt

[vernal moth]

Same with high framerates monitors

[limber knot]

I couldn't imagine playing any competitive shooter with >50ms input lag lol

[worn ember]

daddy gaben ❤️

[limber knot]

it's annoying enough when the ping goes above 50

[golden gust]

PC and console are two different play environments, really

[ashen cliff]

I can live with 60Hz monitors, despite owning a 240Hz one.
It's not that bad.
From my point of view, living with trash internet is the hard part.

[spare venture]

And for the price thing, how are you saving money when it costs 2-4x as much to buy an equivalent PC, have to upgrade that PC every 2-3 years (instead of 7), games literally aren’t much cheaper on PC if they are at all.

[vernal moth]

Barty, have you ever played a shooter at 1440p@144hz?

[golden gust]

I always consider consoles to be a good setup for people who want a 0 effort throw your feet up

That's a dumb statement

[vernal moth]

You don't need to upgrade your PC every 3 years

[spare venture]

Yes and I’d rather sit on my couch and play on my PS5

[golden gust]

do you have to upgrade your PC every 2 years?

[limber knot]

@p​ar​ty​ you can play the same games you play on console on a $300 PC

[golden gust]

no

[spare venture]

Yes you do

[golden gust]

No, no you don't

[vernal moth]

No you don't

[spare venture]

Mhm

[vernal moth]

Games don't evolve that fast, thanks to consoles slowing down innovation

[limber knot]

I ran 7 years on my old hardware with $50 used GPU upgrades now and then lol

[golden gust]

if you wanna run at stupid FPS and high quality, yea, sure, keeping ontop of the curve is good

But, you're gonna be getting more FPS and quality than a console

[spare venture]

For the same price, no

[vernal moth]

My gpu is almost 5 years old

[golden gust]

You're comparing subsidised hardware to top of the line gear

you're doing it wrong

[spare venture]

It performs the same?

[golden gust]

you're already adding like 100 bucks easily ontop of the cost of the console

[vernal moth]

No lol

[limber knot]

a console subscription costs what per year? $80? for that you could upgrade your PC now and then

[golden gust]

*yearly

[ashen cliff]

Not using a 7 year old overclocked Xeon and still getting good performance.

[spare venture]

$40 phoenix

[vernal moth]

You can't compare a console to the best gpus

[limber knot]

isn't the xbox one 8$?

[golden gust]

guess they dropped it, but, that still adds up

[vernal moth]

And then conplain about price

That's just not fair

[golden gust]

at the end of the day, you're paying for subsidized hardware

[vernal moth]

Cause that gpu will deliver a experience a ps5 can only dream about

[golden gust]

the specs of the console don't magically change

[lethal locust]

@vernal moth have some 🍺

[golden gust]

and games in general will run on any GPU from the past few years

[spare venture]

This is the most 🧢 I’ve ever heard

[golden gust]

if you're expecting to play 4K and 60FPS on a 5 year old GPU, you're kinda dumb

[lethal locust]

also, when is PS6 coming out?

[golden gust]

wat

[vernal moth]

But a console can't do that either

[zealous wedge]

/r/pcmr is leaking

[spare venture]

It is

[lethal locust]

also, when is PS6 coming out?

[golden gust]

at the end of the day, a console offers no quality settings and a fixed set of hardware

[limber knot]

what do you expect in the Discord of a PC game?

[spare venture]

It does offer settings

[limber knot]

lol

[merry talon]

presumably in 2027

[vernal moth]

Also barty, fyi, i regularly play on my tv on my couch

[spare venture]

I can set resolution, ray tracing, hdr, and frames

[limber knot]

where is the setting to install Linux?

[golden gust]

optimizing for a single piece of hardware is trivial, so, there are some general gains for like for like hardware between a PC and a console at the same point

[waxen panther]

WOW

[limber knot]

runs

[vernal moth]

Using my pc and a xbox controller

[waxen panther]

four whole settings !

oh my god

[lethal locust]

hi 🥦

[waxen panther]

[lethal locust]

Anyway, I am going to watch some FOOKIN PEAKY BLINDERS

[golden gust]

but, you're comparing subsidised hardware which is often comparable to mid quality specs at best often, towards high end gaming pc parts, and totally dismissing the cost of subscriptions over the lifetime of the device, etc

[spare venture]

Man this is just a lost argument because y’all are just so entrenched in the mindset that consoles are just by definition inferior when it costs significantly more to get the same performance out of a PC

[waxen panther]

no it doesnt

[spare venture]

Ok go build a PC for $500 from scratch that can do 4K 60 with ray tracing

[golden gust]

Once again

[spare venture]

With a 850gb SSD that beats any consumer SSD on the market

[golden gust]

you're comparing subsidised hardware

[ashen cliff]

It doesn't tho.

[vernal moth]

Well, you gotta pay a bit extra, but as I said, you get that back via the games, because that's how Sony is getting their money back too

[vernal moth]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[limber knot]

Man this is just a lost argument because y’all are just so entrenched in the mindset that PCs are just by definition more expensive when it costs significantly less to get the same performance out of a PC

[zealous wedge]

Also the thing where you can use a PC for things that aren't playing games as well :p

[spare venture]

Build me a PC for $500 that will do that then

[limber knot]

btw. your main error here: a console costs more than you pay for it

[spare venture]

Please

[limber knot]

you pay that with your subscription and added prices on the games

[vernal moth]

Barty still doesn't get what subsidizing means

[spare venture]

Oh are PC games free?

[limber knot]

they are cheaper

[vernal moth]

You pay less initially, but more on games, need to pay for online, etc

[spare venture]

I mean that’s just not true but alright

[golden gust]

No, but PC games cost less because they don't have license fees which are sky high vs other platforms

[vernal moth]

Ignoring the fact that many many games only get good with mods

[golden gust]

sony loses money on every piece of hardware sold

[vernal moth]

Gaben destroyed pc games prices

You can get triple a games for half their prices 3 times a year

[spare venture]

You are aware that consoles do sales too, right?

[vernal moth]

Half the lower pc price, not half the high console prices

[spare venture]

Or is that a PC exclusive thing in your mind

[limber knot]

also the amount of games consoles will just never get access to because a solo indie dev is not going to pay for a playstation/xbox license or dev kit is insane

[vernal moth]

Sure they do "sales"

[spare venture]

Jesus fuck lol

[vernal moth]

But console games prices are way more stable

[spare venture]

Mhm

As someone who regularly buys games on console, that’s hilariously wrong

[formal turret]

nintendo selling 60 dollar games 3 years later lol

[golden gust]

what game did you last buy, how much for and how long ago?

[vernal moth]

Let's not get into nintendo, lol

[limber knot]

is there a sale tracker for playstation store games?

(I guess I should've just googled 👀 )

[spare venture]

I haven’t bought any in a few months because I’ve been living off of the EA pass and the PlayStation collection

And PS+ games

[worn ember]

we still on this?

jeez

[vernal moth]

(smth smth xbox pass whatever is cheaper on pc than on consoles)

[waxen panther]

ded you still using maven ?

[vernal moth]

And includes ea pass

[limber knot]

you realise the EA pass is on PC too right?

[spare venture]

Yes

PS collection isn’t, nor is PS+

[golden gust]

oh god

[worn ember]

i'll use maven as long as you're a weeb

[golden gust]

I remember the horror that was the sims for DS

[limber knot]

well but any PS3- game runs on PC ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[waxen panther]