and to double the period at which it's correct
#general
fallen jungle
dim shadow
damn wtf thats cool af
potent fossil
it's a joke jet
fallen jungle
I know
potent fossil
it's meant to make people cringe
woven otter
sounds pretty interesting
potent fossil
add <marquee>
visual egret
lets give people seizures fun
fallen jungle
add bloom because bloom makes stuff nicer
potent fossil
this is an example of a modern, functional website https://kneny.jacobandersen.dev/
replicate
dim shadow
LOOOOOOOOOOL
twin lagoon
kneny 
spiral robin
dim shadow
reminds me of ytmnd
potent fossil
@fallen jungle how does this one make you feel https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/🦚🐚🦜🦀🌜.png
it's called "The Truth"
woven otter
potent fossil
i love andrew
real comet
Johnny Sins has gained a reward did you hear that ?
potent fossil
the squad
woven otter
dim shadow
dr house ruined irl doctors for me
worn crest
Can it be that the GC flushes all from the ram into the disk and therefore high disk IO? from 250kb/s to 1GB/s?
dim shadow
swapping does show up as disk /i/o
warm anchor
minor badge
@potent fossil hello
potent fossil
@minor badge <333333333333 hi bby
minor badge
cooking show w proximsy soon™
minor badge
i have to buy ingredients and a stave mixer
worn crest
something else would be doing that
hm thats weird. Only thing is that the world could be saved xd
warm anchor
tight saddle
Sup
spiral robin
Eternity 
warm anchor
Aber 
potent fossil
hm thats weird. Only thing is that the world could be saved xd
yes, that's an option; or, a plugin doing mad disk writes
or, as someone else said, mad swapping
tight saddle
I've been wandering around looking for if a certain type of server exists and mostly came empty handed atm. Paper caught my eye if I ever wanted to host my own MC server lol
Which channel would be the right place to talk about it?
worn crest
how can I prevent mad swapping
potent fossil
get more ram
but you dont know if that's the case, so check the other two first ig
dim shadow
I've been wandering around looking for if a certain type of server exists and mo...
most of us r server owners so i guess shoot what r u looking for
tight saddle
Kk makes sense
dim shadow
server owners & devs & maybe other related jobs xD
twin lagoon
most of the people here are definitely not server owners
potent fossil
most of us are devs
twin lagoon
mostly developers
dim shadow
oh damn really? i imagined most mc devs would have they own servers too
potent fossil
we do
minor badge
id say maybe 70% devs?
tight saddle
So my idea is kind of ballsy, I am an MC veteran but I took a major hiatus after adventure update and came back around the 1.16 update.
Starting in the Nether is actually kind of cool, and I love doing that for like an extra early game challenge. And the server I'm looking for is the kind of server that respawns you in the nether every time you die.
Additionally, I'm kinda looking forward to a server that embraces PvP but doesn't make PvE a joke, kind of striking the balance between the two rather than eliminating one or the other completely
I've been considering Factions but I have really trash experience (read: none) playing on MP faction servers
potent fossil
factions bad
tight saddle
Plus I haven't really found a server I settled in in MP
limpid comet
for respawning in the nether, my plugin does that :p
tight saddle
Oh nice I didn't know there was already a plugin for it
dim shadow
for factions use citadel, thats my fave faction plugin (never used it on my server tho idk how easy to set up it is)
limpid comet
tight saddle
Was ready to just make it myself lmao
limpid comet
actually you might have to build the plugin for that
idk if 1.4.2 has spawn overrides or not
tight saddle
Cool server™️:
- Random spawn radius of around 500 (tbd) blocks from coordinate 0
- If you die, you respawn in the nether, also random placement to prevent getting game ended
- Server runs 1.16+
- No factions, no claims, however an alternative "Shrine" system (more on that later)
- If you lose all your HP, you enter a Bleeding phase, where you are unable to do anything but crawl until someone picks you up
- In the Bleeding phase, you have a timer that, when it expires, you'll get back up but with half a heart
- In that state, if you get downed again, you'll die without bleeding phase being reentered. To restore your Bleed you need to regain at least 3 hearts
potent fossil
bluely shameless self plug 
limpid comet
i can't not plug quantum
spiral robin
bluely 
cunning raft
if we're doing plugs, anyone in the market for an actually good discord bridge (and you already use essx) 
potent fossil
Cool server™️:
* Random spawn radius of around 500 (tbd) blocks from coordinate ...
bluely's plugin for 1 and 2, basic intelligence for 3, guilds for 4, custom plugin for 5, 6, and 7
spiral robin
Open your snapchat @limpid comet
limpid comet
ok @spiral robin
worn crest
yes, that's an option; or, a plugin doing mad disk writes
hm I don't thing the plugins saving the world so wrong. Essentials, Worldedit, worldguard, multiverse, the other plugins can't be cause they doesnt do something with the world
dim shadow
hm I don't thing the plugins saving the world so wrong. Essentials, Worldedit, w...
disable swapping n then test again
spiral robin
LOL
cunning raft
lol what you saying about essx
spiral robin
That face
tight saddle
bluely's plugin for 1 and 2, basic intelligence for 3, guilds for 4, custom plug...
Shrine system is inspired by a game Neverdaunt 8bit that I'm sure literally nobody but me heard of, but essentially:
- A structure you can build that can claim a certain radius around it
- Such structure needs 15 minutes to charge. During the charge up period, anyone not trusted by you will suffer mining fatigue and will be unable to place anything, but destroying blocks is still allowed.
- When 15 minutes expire, it enters full protection mode, no mining blocks, for 1 hour straight. When the timer expires the cycle repeats.
cunning raft
we don't touch the world lmfao
tight saddle
I haven't found any plugin even remotely close to this idea of "raid timers"
twin lagoon
the shrine system doesn't sound that bad tbh
potent fossil
Shrine system is inspired by a game Neverdaunt 8bit that I'm sure literally nobo...
yea, plugin probably doesn't exist but your idea is probably unique so props. will need to be created tho
limpid comet
yea crystal the github repo lets u change the default world for spawning u just need to build the plugin if u know how to do that. when im done GAMING ill release v1.4.3
spiral robin
Michael 🥺
potent fossil
either by you or a dev you pay
twin lagoon
worn crest
on its own
but paper do it when something gets updated and not all on one
potent fossil
chaching
dim shadow
I know code so I'll probably end up coding for my own server
welcome to my world ❤️
limpid comet
that's always a good idea crystal
tight saddle
Though real talk I kinda wish I found more servers to play on first so I have a better perspective of the current server space
but lol I get bored really easily when I join an SMP server that gives me all stone tools when I spawn
dim shadow
ur welcome to check mine out, dm me if u want ip (although its kinda barren these days)
potent fossil
the current server space: some great custom servers that do really well, and then thousands (and i mean THOUSANDS) of copy paste skyblock/factions/survival/prison
tight saddle
Ooh nice
limpid comet
tens of thousands
tight saddle
ya I've seen a flood of those copy pasted ones
and kinda been missing actual unique custom servers lo
Idk where to even look
That's why I decided to join this discord partially
Cuz I've been talking with people who played MC before but they're just jaded and doomers
who I'm acquainted with
potent fossil
join OriginRealms 
twin lagoon
more smaller server owners there
potent fossil
avoid the staff though
if you want to see how custom it can get, that's a nice example tho
tech wise
tight saddle
Yee, I forgot to mention since I haven't gotten bored of Vanilla yet my goal is to preserve that vanilla feel
Though I'm not against doing wild stuff with like, karma systems or whatever
clever widget
McPaper
tight saddle
Anything to encourage certain playstyles out of people
spiral robin
Simple still butt hurt about OR badmin 
potent fossil
yes :(
cuz i wanna play there, its cool
@tight saddle still recommend you check OR, it's survival but has a very custom spawn and im assuming other features
potent fossil
kekw
twin lagoon
tight saddle
potent fossil
unless you get attacked by the teenage community manager
spiral robin
tight saddle
ya I haven't even considered how I'm gonna actually monetize my server LOL
spiral robin
Michael should be community manager .
twin lagoon
no
untold copper
@tight saddle I've been trying to make a modded series with the same idea
untold copper
preserving vanilla
worn crest
disable swapping n then test again
whats swapping
tight saddle
Ooh nice
potent fossil
the current one should just be retitled Community Destroyer
dim shadow
ya I haven't even considered how I'm gonna actually monetize my server LOL
i do donations but some ppl here do subscriptions
untold copper
but still making it interesting
potent fossil
whats swapping
you start to run out of ram and OS goes "oh shit" and takes stuff out of ram and puts it on disk
dim shadow
whats swapping
virtual memory, what os are u using?
untold copper
I can send over the modpack so you can get some ideas (?)
tight saddle
I heard Microsoft made some TOS changes to combat Pay to Win mechanics, haven't read into it beyond that
worn crest
virtual memory, what os are u using?
linux
twin lagoon
swapoff -a
tight saddle
I can send over the modpack so you can get some ideas (?)
Sure thing
untold copper
its leaning towards vanilla
twin lagoon
add -a
untold copper
but has a larger scope than vanilla
dim shadow
ty @twin lagoon
untold copper
its like play as you want
worn crest
yet is the swap disk part empty. can it solve that problem?
dim shadow
it shows 0kb swap used? then nvm its gotta be something else
potent fossil
err
twin lagoon
more gradients 
twin lagoon
i've yet to properly play with grafana
grafanacloud is dope
untold copper
Today is the 21st day of the of 21st year of the 21st century
twin lagoon
ya they changed their plans like last week and it's fucking isnane how much you get for $0
10,000 series for Prometheus or Graphite metrics
50 GB of logs
14-day retention for metrics and logs
Access for up to 3 team members
worn crest
oh grafana 😮
woven otter
pog
twin lagoon
spiral robin
idriz 
meager tusk
aber 
untold copper
idriz krusic has 50gigs of ram lying around 
meager tusk
spiral robin
his rtp plugin
meager tusk
schrodinger's rtp
potent fossil
you forgot the ö
spiral robin
iRTP 🥺
potent fossil
you idiot !!!!
meager tusk
spiral robin
even tho he messed up luckyperm once
meager tusk
.
potent fossil
ABER DONT BE MAD AT ME
twin lagoon
3-w0epopfejkrsljkgrd;ftgnujkfnmg
spiral robin
twin lagoon
@minor badge 
twin lagoon
it's cold 😔
potent fossil
@twin lagoon i can keep you warm bby
spiral robin
come cuddle 
limpid comet
ur just mad u didnt think of it
twin lagoon
meager tusk
.
twin lagoon
aber explain
meager tusk
potent fossil
why are so many teens so tired
worn ember
they havent discovered sleep yet
worn ember
just leave
spiral robin
no i dont want a ban
worn ember
post something nsfw
spiral robin
just a mute
spiral robin
idriz 
worn ember
but thats how we're raised
unkempt drift
That’s machine’s wisdom droplet for today.
worn ember
ion think even you understand whats happening
meager tusk
u canrt even comperenhd quantums power
you probably use like... 100% of the tick
i'd only use 90% 
visual egret
u canrt even comperenhd quantums power
my quantum > your quantum
except the memory leaks
and the bugs
and the performance
meager tusk
Best proxi ever to live ever?!?!?! 
minor badge
worn ember
6.3k hours lul
potent fossil
i used to think ded was a no life on data but someone sent a nearly 20k hours playtime sc the other day
so ded is a fucking casual
potent fossil
lmao
worn ember
i aint got that much time lol
potent fossil
olive garden
drek trying to relativize his playtime
worn ember
shut up greg
olive garden
😢
woven otter
i wonder how much time i have spent playing runescape 
woven otter
runescape is possible the only game where people try to find methods how to play the game less
olive garden
sounds like a game that aint fun
potent fossil
it can be fun but it's a very grindy game
like if you havent played RS, imagine the grindiest game you've played, multiply it by like 3, and that's RS
potent fossil
max skill level is 99 for *most skills, 120 for others.
level 90 is not even half way to 99 (xp wise)
ashen cliff
OPNSense here we come.
802.11ax/802.11ax AP support
Yet, their support just straight up tells you to not use WiFi on PFSense, since it's broken since ever.
twin lagoon
opnsense >
woven otter
well here's an example from oldschool. lvl 99 is 13m experience roughly. There are some skills that have some experience rates as low as 30-50k/h if you dont have a lot of money
ashen cliff
On the other hand TNSR is just a giant fail.
woven otter
still I can't beat ded. 4.2k hours on 2 accounts over nearly 13 years 
limber knotBOT
thought eve online was the other game ppl try to afk in
slim nymph
well if someone starts blowing your shit up,m easier to jump on pc w/ game open vs having to open game while your getting shot 😛
tight saddle
bruh I just spawned in Minecraft hardcore, find a ravine with minefshaft, tons of iron so I get suited up + bucket in 5 minutes of playtime LOL
worn ember
ez clap
tight saddle
That's disgustingly fast
woven otter
boring
tight saddle
Nether start speaks to me 😔 ✊
worn ember
play RL craft
woven otter
vanilla gets boring fast 
olive garden
just like you
woven otter
stop 
woven otter
yeah surprisingly
cunning raft
https://youtu.be/fU6NI6UFgWA
when the marketing team has too much money
mental meadow
nou
worn fox
mental meadow
i don't like your name
mental meadow
don't steal my title
worn fox
this better XD
worn crest
you start to run out of ram and OS goes "oh shit" and takes stuff out of ram and...
as I disabled swap, the spikes go from 1GB/s spikes to about 300MB/s but very high cause the most time 250kb/s xd
mental meadow
@vernal moth less hangar more lol?
woven otter
🚮
mental meadow
I'd also play other games but idk what everyone plays 😄
limber knotBOT
awesomenauts
worn fox
I'd also play other games but idk what everyone plays 😄
is it a problem that the only game I can manage to consistently play is minecraft 😂
cunning raft
L 
L
twin lagoon
XD
limber knotBOT
boring game, takes forever. Even HOTS is more fun
worn fox
visual egret
web dev is much better when theres people telling you what to do instead of you having to design it yourself
vernal moth
<@!134340832093405184> less hangar more lol?
am getting harassed already to play smth https://i.imgur.com/svDdL2F.png
and when I asked "League" she said "NO!" so....
limber knotBOT
good response
visual egret
^
woven otter
LoL belongs in 🚮
cunning raft
riot games should be banned
limber knotBOT
agree
cunning raft
their games are too fucking addicting
limpid comet
hypixel is gone
visual egret
valorant is fun
vernal moth
jokes on you she got a league icon on my TS https://i.imgur.com/AZC8hip.png
woven otter
their games are too fucking addicting
disagree
worn fox
riot games should be banned
^
visual egret
i love gh developer student pack thing
vernal moth
league is good go away
woven otter
I played league
visual egret
no it isnt
woven otter
oh well dunno about that
cunning raft
but i play it anyway
woven otter
i havent played any recent games tbf
cunning raft
ok i guess im lying then
oskar says the game isn't addicting
i must be wrong
i take it back
mental meadow
wow mini :C
limpid comet
yes u are mean
visual egret
...
woven otter
yes oscar is mean
zealous wedge
not as mean as MeanieDigger
visual egret
Guys i have a question
woven otter
no questions allowed
visual egret
if you were paid as a web developer to redesign a page (eg: https://humbleservers.com/) where there is a designer, how much would you want to get paid
because idk how much to ask for
cosmic raft
at least $3
visual egret
serious answers please
zealous wedge
mine is serious
cosmic raft
as is mine
left swift
Oskar is getting hired to be a web designer oh man
vernal moth
estimate how many hours it takes you, multiply that by your rate, double that, round to next nice number
zealous knot
i heard someone is talking shit about web dev here
visual egret
ok ill start logging how much hours ive done
zealous knot
show yourself
vernal moth
or better, ask to be paid by hour
visual egret
ok so £5 per hour
warm anchor
Paid by project can work too if the lamp some is good and you have good time management. Bonus point if they paid for subsequent support later.
void void
oh stef is here!
zealous knot
why are they updating this on the first of april tho
everyone will think its a joke
lmao
worn ember
thats insane bro
zealous knot
but ion remember askin
worn ember
mossy vessel
mini playing worms in 2021
worn ember
hey that game is great
mossy vessel
Not that I said anything different.
left swift
Ded so defensive over worm game
mossy vessel
Last time I played that game was thru facebook back in 2012 or so
worn ember
Ded so defensive over worm game
yes, i like my worms
worn ember
im already married to my christmas tree
left swift
mossy vessel
I'm already married to @spiral robin
cosmic raft
why are they updating this on the first of april tho
updating what
spare venture
i was looking at one of aikars dynmaps because why not, and wtf
warm anchor
Furry taking over empire Minecraft?
spare venture
i guess so
worn ember
ohnonono
meager tusk
ew
worn ember
no thanks
left swift
Party is same tier as furry
zealous knot
updating what
cosmic raft
ah
spare venture
Party is same tier as furry
you're mad that you're basically a furry
void void
Hey guys,
I have a question. We are having a full custom network. And our minigames are dynamic due the large amount of playerbase. But currently we're creating servers using the pterodactyl, we want to change the way of creating it to make booting faster. Due pterodactyl is something very slow with installing.
So now the question is, we wanna change it to terminal. But we are now discussing what the best would be. What would be the best for performance wise and dedicated performance? Should we do dockers or should we create servers using terminal?
visual egret
booting faster?
void void
booting up the server quicker
visual egret
make sure to change the api-version of all your plugins to a modern version
like 1.13
visual egret
because it has to load the legacy plugin api materials if its a legacy plugin
waxen panther
lol
worn ember
what if you make a "pool" of running servers? and just add them as they're needed?
or is that not an option
void void
Yeah, servers take 10-20 seconds to even start booting due to Pterodactyl taking a long time in the installing state.
And we have to wait a few seconds to start it up due the api requests.
Once it starts, it starts quickly. But the installing proccess & then also detecting if the server is installed is taking some seconds to wait due the api requests limits.
twin lagoon
use kubernetes
worn ember
lmfao michelle, i was waiting for that comment
twin lagoon
kubernetes 
warm anchor
Michael owner of hypixel
twin lagoon
look hypixel is going to be using kubernetes too
void void
What is the difference between dockers and kubernetes
twin lagoon
so kubernetes will be the next big thing in the mc community
spare venture
why are your servers taking so long to boot if they are just minigames servers
twin lagoon
docker is just a cli management thing for containers combined with a container runtime
void void
why are your servers taking so long to boot if they are just minigames servers
The servers are booting fast...
Are you guys even reading or
spare venture
20 seconds is ridiculous
visual egret
why are your servers taking so long to boot if they are just minigames servers
running on a raspberry pi pico
spare venture
no
twin lagoon
kubernetes is an orchestrator for such containers
ashen cliff
I'm 90% sure, you can start a CT/KVM and get it to do it's job under 20s.
left swift
Dont worry about party he never reads
void void
I am saying that the pterodactyl is just too slow with installing stage when creating servers using the api & to also request the startup. but due the limits we have to wait sometimes the check if #isInstalled and such like that. Which delays everything.
spare venture
this is off topic i don't read here
worn ember
then dont answer either 🙂
spare venture
no
void void
docker is just a cli management thing for containers combined with a container r...
Can i grab like container data and stuff like that? We need a way to keep track for like docker ids, and such
twin lagoon
dunno why you'd need that
but yes you could interact w/ the kubernetes api if you wanted to for some reason
void void
Sec, will answer that question asap about why i need it.
void void
but yes you could interact w/ the kubernetes api if you wanted to for some reaso...
Is there a java client api?
void void
dunno why you'd need that
We need a way to shut down the dockers, when the servers are shutting down.
twin lagoon
no you just need to shutdown the server
containers would be stateless
once they're shutdown they don't exist
twin lagoon
pretty much
void void
no you just need to shutdown the server
And what if we run the server using terminal? Would that make a lot of performance difference?
twin lagoon
no but you'd just be wasting your time re-creating something that already exists
void void
The thing is, with docker you have to run installs before run the server, by that i mean like installing java, apt update and such
Or am i mistaken now @twin lagoon ?
warm anchor
void void
Ah, So java and such would be installed from the template?
twin lagoon
you'd create your own docker image containing that is ready to use containing all of the required server files
ashen cliff
Sounds like you are just using Docker the wrong way at this point.
twin lagoon
^
void void
Sounds like you are just using Docker the wrong way at this point.
Just pterodactyl at this point
thats why we want to move
spiral robin
I'm already married to <@!271510274475819008>
uwu 
twin lagoon
@mossy vessel
void void
Also due just we have to make many requests via web api
Anyway, thanks for your help. I will try this out and work something out for this
mossy vessel
@spiral robin @twin lagoon 
nimble lodge
Alfa Yankee Oscar , (space) Tango Hotel Echo (space) Papa India Zulu Zulu Alfa (space) Hotel Echo Romeo Echo
spiral robin
mossy vessel
twin lagoon
nmf 
nimble lodge
wikipedia is 20 today
heady spear
@mental meadow UwU eeee aaa :oooo ? iwi :_: aaa awa
nimble lodge
owo
worn ember
yuck its the swedes
void void
you'd create your own docker image containing that is ready to use containing al...
So far i've read, you can not create images including already the installed apps you need. You still have to run like apt install and stuff like that.
So far i can see at this moment
void void
When a container is created using that image, will Java and such already be installed, or will it need to install it and then run what I need it to run?
twin lagoon
i don't think you understand docker
a docker image is like a microwavable $1 meal
it comes with everything in the package
it's all you need
limber knotBOT
so that's y docker sux
twin lagoon
well $1 meals can be fine
twin lagoon
irc bridge
slim nymph
web dev is much better when theres people telling you what to do instead of you ...
sounds like you're confusing web dev with web design. devs shouldnt be doing the design 😛
they are VERY different roles/jobs
ashen cliff
Rockstar dev.
visual egret
who im working with
slim nymph
right, this other scenario your comparing it to, shouldnt exists im saying
" instead of you having to design it yourself
"
limber knotBOT
I don't, I find the simplest jekyll template, make it dark theme, kablam that's it for design
dim shadow
lol i was like "minecraft server website template" and found one on google
im pretty happy with how it turned out, id rather have a more expansive website but then i havent touched web dev in years and aint really trynna split up my plugin dev time
worn ember
https://darkeyedragon.me/ cant beat my frontpage tbh
visual egret
omg
dim shadow
i think u put ur index.html in the wrong folder
visual egret
u hav best website ded
worn ember
hankqq
visual egret
im reducing my lobby server ram from 1gb to 512 because who needs that
short yarrow
So does an exception being throw always mean a bad thing or is it not always the case? Like if someone uses this method they won't need to have check if empty before passing it into other methods (although the methods themselves probably should have a check)
public List<String> getList(...) throws EmptyListException {
List<String> list = anotherMethod(...);
if (list.isEmpty()) {
throw EmptyListException("Empty List. Nothing to do here")
}
return list.
}
restive thicket
My two cents is that you should never throw an exception unless something is wrong.
For example, if that list isn't supposed to ever be empty, throw an exception.
But if it can safely be empty, let the user determine that.
worn ember
i second that, throw exceptions in cases an unexpected results is achieved that will break the app if not dealt with
short yarrow
Okay I see. Thanks
worn ember
and empty list here is not breaking, its just an inconvenience for the end user
twin lagoon
@restive thicket
restive thicket
Here's a really good example from, unfortunately, Mojang's Brigadier library.
twin lagoon
short yarrow
I think the code I was looking at would fall into if that list isn't supposed to ever be empty, throw an exception.
restive thicket
Just have a boolean for if ServerCommandSource is a console or not, Mojang, smh. EDIT: I think I figured out how to properly handle this now, huh.
Hi, Michael!
worn ember
I think the code I was looking at would fall into `if that list isn't supposed t...
well ig in that case it could be considered
magic river
Huh, apparently the M1 setup boots really weirdly
Instead of coming up on one core and having the kernel talk to the firmware to bring up the others the firmware starts the kernel on every core and it's up to the kernel to communicate with the other instances and sync up
void void
yes
visual egret
ok i might want to migrate away from raspberry pi
to be fair
i did just accidentally run 2 server instances
so it is running out of ram
ashen cliff
Instead of coming up on one core and having the kernel talk to the firmware to b...
Sounds like a ARM thing.
Or some kind of workaround?
visual egret
i mean no thats not what im telling you
magic river
That's not how ARM normally comes up, no
Apple does a bunch of odd things vs other ARM devices on these
visual egret
im telling you that right now it should be using up 4.3GB of ram because i ran the same server twice in crontab
my raspberry pi only has 4GB of ram
thats what im telling you
ashen cliff
I'm 90% sure I've seen something like that documented in one of the docs. Not sure for what chip tho.
waxen panther
waxen panther
ok
everyone has been telling you to since you joined
glad it's only taken a year
visual egret
the only minecraft related thing that will be on it is velocity
spiral robin
waxen panther
aber 
spiral robin
mossy vessel
cute cute
waxen panther
ashen cliff
Do you have a source for that startup procedure, I might be able to use some wording to find the other one.
spiral robin
nmf 
olive garden
why does this link ask for GitHub login (and perms)? https://papermc.io/ci/job/Travertine/
olive garden
magic river
I thought the CI went private
olive garden
hmm, maybe if I update the link will be gone
it was just weird that a public link required login
waxen panther
Idriz
olive garden
but I guess I'm just outdated, like it says
spiral robin
ci link is "public", but access inside is private
cosmic raft
@olive garden open an issue, we forgot to change that link is all
assuming you are on a recent build
if not, might be fixed already
lean kiln
well it could be the newest build and give that warning if its configured to check at jenkins and it gets denied
cosmic raft
yea I just can't remember what counts as "outdated" with bungee/waterfall/travertine
olive garden
well this bad boy ain't letting me join on 1.16.4
lean kiln
yea prob old then lol
spiral robin
hello kashike
cosmic raft
hi aber
worn ember
Me after breaking my wooden hoe
https://youtu.be/9xgFxPY4pJY
waxen panther
?ban @worn ember mean
worn ember
excuse you
spiral robin
worn ember
i'm thanking my hoe for its service
waxen panther
void void
ur still mean
spiral robin
void void
dumb dreck
worn ember
void void
never say thanks
worn ember
thanks mikro
magic river
waxen panther
furry emotes 
magic river
waxen panther
left swift
waxen panther
the simp returns
left swift
When did u get back
waxen panther
i am always here
magic river
left swift
waxen panther
phosyawn
worn fox
worn ember
worn fox
worn fox
XD
left swift
Brocc says that but he'll be back in like 15 minutes
olive garden
I'm so good I made a waterfull issue before I download waterfall or bungeecord, ever :dab:
left swift
worn fox
left swift
Who
clever widget
whats the best price to performance cpu for minecraft server
worn fox
idk but I run three on a ryzen 5 3600 XD
worn fox
I'm running 2 paper and 1 fabric and they're hooked up to a bungee that my friend is running lo
clever widget
oh for me is 4 paper and 1 waterfall
left swift
I99900k
worn fox
I'm not running public servers but I'm running private ones that have up to 10 people on at once lol
left swift
Ryzen 7 3600
clever widget
wouldnt that be a ryzen 5
left swift
Idk
worn fox
it wwould be
left swift
3700
worn fox
ryzen 7 3700 is probably a good price to performance for running a large number of servers
I don't think going to a 3800 would be worth it if your trying to save money
clever widget
why amd
worn fox
bc amd tends to have more cores per dollar
clever widget
isnt minecraft dependent on single thread
worn fox
servers not as much
worn fox
this is my task manager running 3 empty servers lol
limpid comet
empty
clever widget
yeah
limpid comet
You'll most likely have issues scaling
limpid comet
More players, more players doing stuff, etc
Idk I haven't been following the conversation
clever widget
i dont get many players tho
limpid comet
Oh, alright then
clever widget
but my servers have been crashing alot latley
limpid comet
What's the crash message?
clever widget
(searching logs please wait)
worn fox
I have a weird crash that happens, I haven't had it on paper but i've had it on fabric, pretty much somoene tries to join and it just doesn't let them then my computer just stops running hte server but once I type in the gui thingy it says that it's behind and restarts, any ideas?
magic river
https://i.imgur.com/LGRFmwg.png
4 times the threads and 2 times the RAM but the same GPU as me
I think your machine is a little lopsided
clever widget
ok no need to flex
next frost
shit you were faster
worn fox
this is my full task manager lol, built the pc in summer
waxen panther
i had to reboot into windows too
next frost
lol
worn fox
the gpu is 2070 lol
cosmic raft
I think your machine is a little lopsided
hm?
lean kiln
im not rebooting to windows
waxen panther
i have more memory arriving tomorrow
lean kiln
i was literally running out of ram with 32g from having too many intellijs open
next frost
but I got more ethernet adapters!
worn fox
i have more memory arriving tomorrow <a:peepoClapJamminMoment:792177151448973322...
I have a spare 16 gb lying around that I just have for troubleshooting XD it's not even bad ram I just don't keep it in my system
twin lagoon
what is going on
magic river
At least I have a bitchin' laptop
cosmic raft
Your GPU is weak compared to the rest
My GPU is fine
lean kiln
what is going on
idk
cosmic raft
a 1070 is more than enough for everything I do
waxen panther
michael flex pls
lean kiln
nvidia ewww
twin lagoon
flex with what
cosmic raft
handles all my VR games, all other games, etc
waxen panther
idk you probably like
worn fox
Your GPU is weak compared to the rest
just depends on what your doing, if he isn't doing any gpu intensive games it's fine lol
waxen panther
128 cores
twin lagoon
i have a 3700x + 3080
waxen panther
twin lagoon
i need a better cpu & more ram
waxen panther
nevermind
clever widget
amd epyc 64c 128t
waxen panther
yes
spiral robin
waxen panther
256 core michael when
worn fox
I would DIE for any threadripper chip XD
spiral robin
But then you couldn't use it
magic river
lol I think that's the first time other than right after a reboot I've seen my laptop using less than 12GB of RAM
I don't have any JetBrains products, VMs, or docker containers running right now though
I got a project I can do with vscode and run natively (for now)
tight saddle
Anyone knows of any good free Minecraft server solutions to start out with? I intend to use Paper
Currently not expecting playercounts any larger than 20 players
twin lagoon
minehut
zealous wedge
paid subscription tiers
tight saddle
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@zealous wedge 
zealous wedge
spare venture
minehut
meager tusk
hey stop keking
worn ember
spare venture
yes
tight saddle
Does it suffer from poor ping
spare venture
minehut 20 players
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<a:ameowcomfywave:768479935069028372>
how are you tonight
spiral robin
limber knotBOT
so apparently Mojang doesn't want to fix the scrolling issues in the new launcher update https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MCL-16554 :(
minor badge
thats epic z
tight saddle
I'm gimped by default with 100ms latency at the least cuz I live around Eastern Europe so I wanna know if minehut is no go for me
minor badge
it is good !
worn fox
so apparently Mojang doesn't want to fix the scrolling issues in the new launche...
how rude of minecraft
minor badge
i am sated, and i am vibing
zealous wedge
nice
minor badge
perhaps time to sleep
zealous wedge
dr henry says no
worn fox
@wet plaza imagine being on this server but never talking smh
zealous wedge
two whole picrew avatar users o.O
worn fox
stfu
twin lagoon
I'm gimped by default with 100ms latency at the least cuz I live around Eastern ...
they use cloudflare spectrum
tight saddle
huh neat
Btw I actually do have a VPS, it has 4 gigs RAM and 80 gigs storage space
But apparently when we ran spigot it lagged up the remote desktop
twin lagoon
remote desktop
spare venture
why do I have two screens that when I attach to them they open the same screen
this is horrible
tight saddle
ye the uh VNC thing
twin lagoon
dont use vnc or remote desktop
spare venture
example screen -x Test is attaching me to the same screen as screen -x Test2
not sure what happened
maybe hit some dum hotkey
winter heron
anyone have experience with plugins like this: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/view-distance-tweaks-1-14-1-16.75164/
it can change render distance dynamically with player count, idk if it would be great with paper though
magic river
Just use no tick view distance
Tick things in a radius of 3, load in a radius of 7-10
winter heron
yeah at 40 players no tick still has affect cause chunk loading is so high still
less affect
viral hornet
perhaps pancakes
🥺
wraith trail
notick is by no means free
magic river
It's pretty close to free
viral hornet
It's free enough lol
magic river
It costs RAM and bandwidth, not CPU
winter heron
maybe I have notick config wrong/backwards
wraith trail
It's much much cheaper than ticking everything, but some people treat it as if it has zero cost
which is just not the case
void void
Hello
visual egret
welcome to the stackoverflow minecraft tag, where only the people with the highest iq's are located
void void
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSeFEgnitC0&ab_channel=Peppzzii
This is dupes works?
I think no
winter heron
view-distance=3
no-tick-view-distance: 6
viral hornet
Probably not
winter heron
is that right
viral hornet
Try it on the latest paper and see, @void void
wraith trail
yes, you have that set up correctly
winter heron
cool thanks
visual egret
but remember to always https://tryitands.ee
void void
My players wanna dupe and don't say anything
magic river
Remember when you could turn redstone in to obsidian?
visual egret
wasnt that like a really old version
magic river
Fuck you, you're old, I'm not old
coarse lily
Remember when you could turn redstone in to obsidian?
Remember redstone x-ray machines?
magic river
You mean piston x-ray?
coarse lily
Yep
visual egret
you mean the like 50 times you could xray with pistons
coarse lily
oskar you were like 4.
left swift
Last year?
spare venture
partyviewdistance does non-tick based on player count ❤️
visual egret
i started playing around 2013, shush
spare venture
do you even remember a time when minecraft did not exist
visual egret
no
waxen panther
you were alive in 2013?
spare venture
man that makes me feel old
visual egret
a cousin pirated the game and showed it to me in 2013
and i was like
hmm
this looks fun
spare venture
the ipad generation
visual egret
were ipads even a mainstream thing in like 2013
wraith trail
yes
spiral robin
hello camm
void void
At what waterfall better then bungeecord
visual egret
performance and a few settings
spare venture
.g ipad release date
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad
magic river
aww, they got rid of the part where it shows when you bought Minecraft
cunning raft
generally just faster but you should consider using velocity if you can
coarse lily
aww, they got rid of the part where it shows when you bought Minecraft
IIRC it's still returned in the object
visual egret
@void void velocity should be your choice
coarse lily
Just not displayed
void void
I think, better use bot filter on my server, not bungeecord or waterfall
visual egret
huh
wraith trail
those things are unrelated
coarse lily
Cause my server run offline mode
Boooooo
wraith trail
I think you misunderstand what waterfall/bungee/velocity is
visual egret
visual egret
boris
coarse lily
Find someone in Russia who has original minecraft
Does your server have an item shop or anything?
coarse lily
You could add one and get them to buy Minecraft accounts.
void void
I don't creating pay2win servers
coarse lily
:)
spare venture
buddy if you want offline mode help go to the offline mode support server
void void
You could add one and get them to buy Minecraft accounts.
No, thanks
visual egret
paying for stuff != p2w
void void
buddy if you want offline mode help go to the offline mode support server
I don't need offline mode support
spare venture
okay then what are you tlking about
void void
paying for stuff != p2w
No, you can just purchase 92939 diamonds in 1 second
winter heron
is 1.12 the best performance/player ratio
visual egret
🤦
void void
Sorry i stupid
magic river
I'm not even sure if notch was sending purchase emails back when I got my account
spare venture
if you want the best performance just go to the version with the least features
winter heron
yeah, isnt that like 1.12
spare venture
oskar shut up
coarse lily
I'm not even sure if notch was sending purchase emails back when I got my accoun...
Didn't he used to come to your house with a hand written thank you note?
winter heron
Im not trying to troll man, legit
spare venture
jesus christ
coarse lily
Those were the days
abstract root
what item based economy plugins do you guys recomend for a server running 1.16.4?
void void
Oh yes, Congratulate me, i got unbanned on hypixel after 1 year
visual egret
Im not trying to troll man, legit
im not trolling
void void
🤡
spare venture
this chat is out of control
visual egret
latest = best
spare venture
oskar trolling, aptkop trolling, everyone is
visual egret
ayo what
winter heron
ok but I know servers a few years ago could handle 100+ at 20 tps no problem lol
spare venture
he asked what version performs best and you said 1.16.5
visual egret
provided you optimise
void void
Paper the best
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Go for 1.12 if you want to, but be prepared to pay people for help if you need it.
coarse lily
Hi proxi
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Hi, Ocelot!
coarse lily
:)
visual egret
what platform performs best? beta 1.7
coarse lily
Time for you to go to bed?!
visual egret
ez
void void
Paper the best
20 tps with 23 players
minor badge
Gnocchi pan went great, tasted wonderful
void void
On 1.16.5
twin lagoon
proxi 😔
coarse lily
Oh that's early.
spiral robin
visual egret
no they arent