general

[visual egret]

custom items are okay

[cunning raft]

you can sell diamonds too

just don't use their art

[visual egret]

but didnt they make the diamonds

[cunning raft]

[clever widget]

or what about "a donation which grants you diamond"

loophole

[void void]

wtf is going on here again

[limber knot]

a_boy wants to make money

[cunning raft]

13 year old doesn't understand legal text

pretends they do

[left swift]

Jroy is in an endless loop of eternal suffering

[olive marlin]

You can't use diamond icon on the store.

[minor badge]

can we not talk about the eula

every time someone talks about it, it goes straight to shit

[void void]

why do i always happen to be here when some dumb argument is going on smh my head

[waxen panther]

can we talk about proximyst instead

[minor badge]

no .

[cunning raft]

yeah

[visual egret]

hello proxi

[cunning raft]

i allow it

proxi sucks!

[spare venture]

armchair lawyers

[minor badge]

do code review stupid broccoli man

[clever widget]

craftbukkit am i right

[waxen panther]

i was looking at it

[cunning raft]

broc review my code

[waxen panther]

is changing the return like that considered breaking even though its technically the same value as before

[visual egret]

poggers

[waxen panther]

no u only work on essentials sex and i cant read it

[cunning raft]

very simple!

[clever widget]

essential sex

[minor badge]

not really, brocc

it'll be a subtype, so it's guaranteed to be either exactly what you want, or more

so updating will be fine, as i have already tested

[waxen panther]

that makes sense

[minor badge]

(except the whole fact i suddenly got a bajillion unnecessary cast warnings)

[waxen panther]

i will code review in a second then

yeah it was annoying

[golden gust]

Depends

[minor badge]

yeaa it got on my nerves when i had to do ```java
.senderType(Player.class)
.handler(ctx -> ((Player) ctx.getSender())....)

[golden gust]

you can go up the inheritence tree but not down it, iirc

(oracle has a doc somewhere on ABI aspects)

[minor badge]

the change just goes from returning a Command<Original> to <New extends Original> Command<New>, so it should still be the same ABI afaik?

at least sure will compile fine if you just up the version number

[cunning raft]

does abi even take params into account

[zealous wedge]

nope, generics are not part of abi

[cunning raft]

that's what i thought

[zealous wedge]

unless they're part of a class supertype

cuz synthetics

[worn ember]

Cuz that's all that happens 😂

[zealous wedge]

well, extends/implements

[cunning raft]

🎉 generics 🎉

[zealous wedge]

actually i have a better idea: let's talk about @void void's new doggo avatar

[minor badge]

it'll just be senderType(Ljava/lang/Class;)Lcloud/..../Command/Builder; like before afaik

[golden gust]

ah, wait, i was backwards, can go down the tree, not up it, iirc

[cunning raft]

correct

[zealous wedge]

ya

[minor badge]

:peeposmile

wtf discord ?

[waxen panther]

[zealous wedge]

you could probably compare sth with japidiff

[minor badge]

[cunning raft]

https://i.imgur.com/SZamyjc.png

[minor badge]

https://owo.whats-th.is/7dF7VRC.png well how am i able to use it on my phone then hm ?

[warm anchor]

:pepesmile:

sad

I dont have that either

[zealous wedge]

the pepe purge begins

[worn ember]

:peepeesmile:

[cunning raft]

[zealous wedge]

meowmoji reigns supreme

[warm anchor]

Pepe purge kinda happened already.

[zealous wedge]

[warm anchor]

but pepe are stronk

[worn ember]

Low res pepe

[warm anchor]

I do try to archive stuff and clips I saw that I like

[minor badge]

[warm anchor]

coz I feel like 2021 is gonna be a great internet cleansing

[minor badge]

nobody would cleanse you

[warm anchor]

@minor badge

[worn ember]

Dun touch my internet :((

[minor badge]

[void void]

that's my dog in august

near me while i was sitting outside

[visual egret]

bro

did you not social distance from the dog

you know we are in tier 58

[void void]

speak for yourself

[zealous wedge]

your dog is lovely

please pet them for me next time you get a chance

[void void]

he'll get petted twice as much then

[zealous wedge]

as he deserves

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge

[potent fossil]

michal

[twin lagoon]

[woven otter]

arguments are dumb

[potent fossil]

who's arguing

[woven otter]

stop arguing

[potent fossil]

.kill Duck

[limber knot]

shoves Duck into a microwave and waits until they pop.

[spiral robin]

hello

Simp

[potent fossil]

takes liver out of duck carcass

makes Foie gras

[potent fossil]

[woven otter]

instead take a knife

and then shove it up your butt

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-gif-19579661

[twin lagoon]

awa

[potent fossil]

uwu

ɐʍɐ

hello did i break reality

ok

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/error-windows-glitch-gif-5012719

[restive thicket]

What's up with the old Google+ logo in the corner? :P

[twin lagoon]

camotoy

[restive thicket]

Hullo!

[fluid haven]

yea hello should i use protocolsupport or viaversion?

[twin lagoon]

viaversion

[fluid haven]

why?

[twin lagoon]

because it works

[fluid haven]

viaversion + backwards + the other one

[twin lagoon]

[fluid haven]

bruh

so ur saying protocolsupport doesnt work?

[twin lagoon]

the majority here will likely use VV

[fluid haven]

yea its more popular

but that doesnt always mean better

[zealous wedge]

viaversion is more actively maintained

[spare venture]

go look at the code

decide for yourself

[fluid haven]

which one do you think is less server intensive

[twin lagoon]

viaversion

[fluid haven]

lightweight

fr?

even if i use all 3

[twin lagoon]

yes

[zealous wedge]

protocolsupport supports some ancient versions doesn't it?

[fluid haven]

interesting

[spare venture]

why would you use all three

[fluid haven]

yeah

@spare venture cause i want 1.8 - 1.16

[zealous wedge]

the big performance issues will be crossing the 1.13 boundary

[worn ember]

for maximum compat

[fluid haven]

yeah

[zealous wedge]

if you cross that, most other things are insignificant

[fluid haven]

idk i might just not support below 1.8 for some gamemodes

its a big lag creator

[spare venture]

i thought viabackwards did 1.8-1.16

[worn ember]

i mean, they have their damn launcher to select versions

[fluid haven]

@spare venture it doesnt work by itself

[worn ember]

if they cant do that why they even bother playing

[fluid haven]

lol

[spare venture]

what do you mean

[fluid haven]

bc mc servers make money just cause its dumb kids that play on them

@spare venture viaversion is a dependency for rewind

[fluid haven]

also thats not always true but yk

[zealous wedge]

then if you have performance issues use that money to buy a more powerful server

[worn ember]

i can see the point of running 1.8 and allowing up to 1.16.x

but the other way around makes no sense

[spare venture]

okay so why would you use all 3

[fluid haven]

cost effectiveness

[zealous wedge]

these days the best pre-1.13 version is 1.12 really

[fluid haven]

also uhh leme check

[spare venture]

if vv + vb do every version

[fluid haven]

also the reason people want 1.8 is cause the pvp

[worn ember]

buh me pvp

[fluid haven]

people hate 1.9+ pvp

[worn ember]

people are dum

[spare venture]

small minority hates 1.9+ pvp

[zealous wedge]

don't cater to the crowd

[fluid haven]

no lol

[zealous wedge]

that's not the only gameplay style

[fluid haven]

thats how you make money by catering to the crowd

[warm anchor]

very small groups

[spare venture]

the crowd isn't pvp

[fluid haven]

nobody likes 1.9 pvp in my community

[worn ember]

i dont even support 1.8 anymore

[fluid haven]

including me i think its trash lol

[worn ember]

well never did tbh

kekw

[warm anchor]

pvp in 20 ticks server requires skill

spamming clicks requires skill

[fluid haven]

1.9 pvp isnt anymore skillful than 1.8

its not just spamming clicks lol

[spare venture]

yes it is

[fluid haven]

no its not

[warm anchor]

it literally is

LOL

[worn ember]

minecraft pvp is just stupid in its own

[fluid haven]

theres strafing and wtapping

[spare venture]

one penalizes you from spamming clicks, one does not

[fluid haven]

when to knock ur opponent back the most

[warm anchor]

^ lol

[fluid haven]

ok and?

[spare venture]

so by comparison one is spamming clicks and one is not

[worn ember]

clicking slower = profit

[fluid haven]

not really

but sure

[zealous wedge]

why are we having a conversation about pvp in minecraft

[warm anchor]

also 20 ticks if you are really wanna play a reaction and skill based game you look at CSGO which the high end server runs on 120 ticks

[fluid haven]

thats not why im here lol

[spare venture]

because muh pvp

[warm anchor]

MC pvp is basically a joke

[spare venture]

muh autoclicker

[worn ember]

you mean 3tps

if ur lucky 5

[warm anchor]

shhhhhh if my tps is hidden they cant tell

[worn ember]

typing lag is not allowed on this server

[golden gust]

*lagg

[spare venture]

you kinda have to remember that some of these kids literally grew up only playing minecraft pvp

[warm anchor]

"if I display 20 tps on my TAB, it is 20 tps"

bro @worn ember

[worn ember]

i am not your bro, pal

meh new chair is making squeaky noises

[spare venture]

shityy chair

[left swift]

U know what that means

[worn ember]

lube it up?

[left swift]

Sure let's go with that

[twin lagoon]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

@waxen panther 😔

[peak ginkgo]

What's going on in here

[twin lagoon]

dejay

[woven otter]

yes

[peak ginkgo]

I'm in California!

[woven otter]

California by Grimes

[peak ginkgo]

d? California by Grimes

ddg! California by Grimes

[coarse hornet]

Genius

[peak ginkgo]

Oh

[woven otter]

.g Grimes California

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Grimes is a census-designated place in Colusa County, California on the Southern Pacific Railroad. It lies at an elevation of 46 feet. The two main roads that run through it are State Route 45 and Grimes-Arbuckle Road. Its ZIP code is 95950, and its area code is 530. Grimes's population was 271 at the 2010 census. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimes%2C_California)

[woven otter]

smh no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsCfufAp2tM

[zealous wedge]

why is grimes in colusa?

[vernal moth]

That's the wife of the richest man in earth everybody

[woven otter]

she also makes nice music

[vernal moth]

Meh

[zealous wedge]

we can change that, working together

[woven otter]

why would you

[left swift]

Zml typing thinly veiled threats /s

[vernal moth]

Gotta by more shit on amazon i guess, that's the easiest way to change it 😂

Oh also, #ShortTesla i guess

[woven otter]

do you mean tesla shorts

[spare venture]

did someone say paper 1.0

[woven otter]

no go to sleep

[void void]

Guysss

[stiff yarrow]

that may be the saddest thing I have ever read

[void void]

Do you like Dr. Seuss comics uwu

They're epic!

[spare venture]

it is

minecraft is over 11 years old

i had a player today think he was a really experienced player because he's been playing since 1.6

then i thought back and realized that was 7.5 years ago. he has probably been playing minecraft most of his life

[woven otter]

.flags

[limber knot]

Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs

[stiff yarrow]

imagine having your competitive game of choice be minecraft PVP

oofers

[warm anchor]

[left swift]

nossr choosing violence

[zealous wedge]

nossr being spot-on

[woven otter]

imaging playing games instead of contemplating existence and nature of reality

[left swift]

ducks nature of reality is to be roasted in some chicken and turkey

[zealous wedge]

i play games specifically to avoid that

[woven otter]

that's why people like to be distracted right

[candid mesa]

Is there a plugin that allows the end to auto-reset and function like vanilla on multiplayer?

[spare venture]

function like vanilla?

[unkempt drift]

the end resets on vanilla?

[spare venture]

oh

yeah you can respawn the ender dragon

he didnt mean the whole world

[unkempt drift]

oh that, thought you meant the whole dimension

[spare venture]

well, he worded it very poorly

apparently its as easy as this

[limber knot]

that works fine on servers

[spare venture]

yeah

[limber knot]

I think he means something else

[spare venture]

and the only "reset" is that the pillars reset

[limber knot]

singleplayer?

[spare venture]

who knows

[limber knot]

I don't think the end resets there either

[spare venture]

it doesn't

this guy is insane

might've fell and hit his head

[twin lagoon]

a

[unkempt drift]

b

[limber knot]

probably using a translator or something

[spare venture]

no, his history indicates he has been coherent in the past

[cosmic raft]

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/ktx38j/network_diagramlayout_weeb_edition_٩_ω_و/

kek

[spare osprey]

can anybody help me please?

[zealous wedge]

#paper-help

[spare osprey]

no one has answerd for 4 hours

[zealous wedge]

nobody's going to answer here

[spare osprey]

it like not a big problem it just a thing with the webist

[limber knot]

It's because 1. you never actually asked your question, just put it in #paper-help and someone will get to you

[spare osprey]

i wanted to ask if somebody can give me the jar bc the site dosen't owrk to me

[limber knot]

2. That's not true, I was in there half an hour ago

[spare osprey]

i said for me

[limber knot]

reference #1

[spare osprey]

i asked my question now

on #paper-help

[limber knot]

Fantastic

[spare osprey]

yep

[spare venture]

just saw this gem in another discord

[vivid ivy]

anyone remember that conversation from a while ago about about the auto-tune plugin?

[spare venture]

#general message

[ornate spindle]

that's fantastic lol

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-01-10_02-55-56.png

[cosmic raft]

wat

why the fuck

[spiral robin]

pepega

[ashen cliff]

MFW TS3 Push to talk somehow just always worked:

[spare venture]

i have the ts3 ptt noise ingrained into my soul

[warm anchor]

War hammer has anti cheat right? That’s why

It’s all fun and game but I think clickbait may get you kicked

🙄

[sharp sentinel]

?warn @snow parrot misinformation

[leaden oxide]

foenixe#0420 has been warned. || misinformation

[snow parrot]

welp sorry

[spare venture]

what was it

[spiral robin]

Fake article about Mojang cancelling Microsoft link

[spare venture]

oh

[warm anchor]

The bigger issue was the post indicate a data breach which is not something to throw around for fun lol

[spiral robin]

Ah

Well I didn't bother reading it lol

[ashen cliff]

Well no. In my case I'm playing a game from 2007, that has to be run in Windows XP mode.

A yes. The RARE SLI AA support. https://posili.me/i/2021-01-10_03-32-33.png

[spring mango]

A bit sad to hear that Mojang is going to drop Minecraft Earth from July 2021

[next wind]

its not like anybody played it

i dont get why everybodys sad about something that like 10 people played

[spiral robin]

Unix speaking truth

[spring mango]

True, I was recently only able to play it after I got a new phone bcz it had a lot of restrictions, and now thanks to the pandemic, it's completely hit.

[warm anchor]

oh that's why. I know some game will show me that warning when the game has anti cheat and has to run in admin mode @ashen cliff

[spring mango]

Should I attempt to run a minecraft server on my notebook? I really am eager to test it lol

[warm anchor]

give us the spec so we can laugh at it

[spare venture]

where is that webpage that shows how many % of servers are on paper

using 1.16.x

[spring mango]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/37993194 Pls don't laugh . Hope my cpu doesn't become toast 🔥

[warm anchor]

[void void]

what's teh best camera account mod out there?

[spring mango]

um

[cosmic raft]

Jeez

Humble Bundle really is trash these days

11 bundles, none of which are for games

[warm anchor]

I think they are running out of things

[spare venture]

They were really good like 8 years ago

[formal comet]

any plugins that lets me do /lobby?

[zealous wedge]

their era has sorta come and gone, like that was before itch.io

[potent fossil]

for the...behind...what's the go to for the current era?

[zealous wedge]

itch.io is the big indie games place, and they do bundles sometimes

[spring mango]

Dayum, somehow my notebook is able up run both client and server with me generating chunks.

[spare venture]

How are you getting 81 fps when your shit is on fire

[spring mango]

Sodium might be helping. I genuinely thought the server was gonna crash. Idrk 🤷‍♀️

[potent fossil]

for everyone who's always hating on JS now you can webdev in Java and backend dev in Java too http://www.gwtproject.org/overview.html

probably old news but

[spiral robin]

[formal turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/583451536198336515.gif?v=1

[potent fossil]

cringe

[spiral robin]

me when i think about simple

[heady spear]

Simple out here 950 years late

[spiral robin]

good morning beautiful

aka city

uwu

[heady spear]

Who are you

[spiral robin]

jk fuck u

[heady spear]

No thx

[rose magnet]

how to deal with high bandwidth limit?

[spiral robin]

wat

[formal turret]

ask for more

[heady spear]

Download more

[rose magnet]

no I mean , does using 256 for network compression helps?

or 512?

[spiral robin]

yes

[rose magnet]

im using a bungee setup

for bungee 256 and for spigot servers -1?

[potent fossil]

@rose magnet https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/any-benefits-for-using-network-compression-threshold.50962/

see the first reply

[viral hornet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/admincraft/comments/ku0bzx/i_made_a_bot_to_analyze_timings_reports/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

New bot on paper when

[potent fossil]

wow

[serene bolt]

I think some of those suggestions are overly opinionated but the bot itself is a very cool idea

[viral hornet]

Yeah definitely

[waxen panther]

pempkin guy is cool

[viral hornet]

Good idea to have a bot that auto responds if things like flags are out of date, or settings are more than qhat paper recommends

[waxen panther]

any pt contributor is an insta genius 😎

[viral hornet]

@coarse lily is a contributor as well?!

[coarse lily]

What

Oh

[rose magnet]

add the bot now

[coarse lily]

Yeah just the readme

I was on a readme copywriting spree that week ;)

[waxen panther]

no you changed the bot port

pt will forever not have a readme

[coarse lily]

Oh that too

Oh I think I was working on a readme

That’s probably 50 windows back somewhere.

[candid mesa]

@spare venture @unkempt drift @wraith trail Lmao I meant so that you have to find a new dungeon in the main world and the end world, after you beat the ender dragon, resets so everyone can beat the ender dragon.

[wraith trail]

That's... Not like vanilla at all

[candid mesa]

Yeah it was late 😩

I meant vanilla in terms of gameplay

I don't want any modifications to the battle

[spare venture]

man

[wraith trail]

Singleplayer?

[candid mesa]

For a paper server

[spare venture]

I still don’t even know what you mean

[candid mesa]

Right now, you can only have one fight

[wraith trail]

No, you can use crystals

[spare venture]

No, you can respawn the dragon

[candid mesa]

After a dungeon has been raided

[wraith trail]

To summon it again

[candid mesa]

But what about some random person?

[spare venture]

Dungeons are the small mossy cobble room with a spawner in it

[candid mesa]

How do most survival servers do this is what I'm asking

[wraith trail]

Well what if someone builds something in the end?

[spare venture]

End crystals are cheap af

[wraith trail]

I assume he means stronghold

[spare venture]

Most servers prob don’t let you respawn it

[candid mesa]

Sorry for my poor wording

yeah strongholds

I haven't played this game in years 😆

[wraith trail]

You should probably know what you are asking about

[spare venture]

Just let them respawn it

[wraith trail]

Because you can respawn it super easy and cheap

[spare venture]

Nah why would you want to know anything about the server you’re trying to run

Man I hate looking at the Tesla stock

[coarse lily]

@candid mesa The vanilla behavior is that the portal stays lit, so players aren’t going to be able to relight them. But they can respawn dragons pretty easy in vanilla with end crystals.

Ghast tear + eye of ender and some glass.

The dragon will fuck up any builds there if you don’t have protection but otherwise that’s what happens on other survival servers.

[untold copper]

@wraith trail new pfp owo

[warm anchor]

Thanks for teaching us how to play Minecraft today

[coarse lily]

Haha

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not but it is kinda funny how few devs actually play the game.

[warm anchor]

~~Man you've never seem Ubisoft in Division 1 & 2 ~~

[coarse lily]

Haha

I played the first one.

[warm anchor]

I am still salty they fucked up probably one of the most fun FPS I ever played

[coarse lily]

Good FPS is hard to find.

[warm anchor]

It was post apocalyptic and gun play feels smooth to me. Art is nice. Story was meh.

then when it comes to BALANCE. It feels like Ubisoft never played the game or they hire a group of apes to do it

[spare venture]

I played the beta to division 1 and thought it sucked

Enemies were just bullet sponges, the PvP was fun in the dark zones

[candid mesa]

Agreed.

[candid mesa]

Also agreed.

[candid mesa]

Thanks man appreciate it! I'll just leave it as is then unless you know of some plugin that's an improvement

[spare venture]

Hmm

[merry talon]

Needs more jpg

Also where's google

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/ktvysn/covid19_is_not_a_joke_and_should_be_taken/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

nice

[unkempt drift]

hold on what? 31 minutes for the US Bill of Rights?

it has 475 words

that's like 2 minutes by the 240 WPM standard

I don't think whoever made that image knows what the bill of rights is...

[spare venture]

Couldn’t tell you

Doesn’t discount how freaking long those TOS are

[potent fossil]

whoever made that prob thought constitution == bill of rights lol

lol nope constitution is on there and they say us bill of rights takes longer to read than the entire constitution

[spare venture]

I thought maybe they meant the amendments too but no way they’re that long

[potent fossil]

nope whoever made it is just dumb

[unkempt drift]

the bill of rights is only the first 10

[potent fossil]

correct

[spare venture]

Yeah I’m aware

I figured maybe they were only just kinda dumb

[potent fossil]

microsoft's tos is thicc

[mortal zinc]

._.

at some point people are going to yell at dictionary writers to remove the words "master" and "slave"

just you watch lol

[unkempt drift]

I cant believe Github as a company would use master, a word literally everyone knows means owner of slaves whenever you use it and has no other meanings.

[mortal zinc]

ofc ofc

[potent fossil]

i just switched my git config to main a long time ago

[unkempt drift]

and the Master's golf tournament... how could they create a golf tournament honoring slave owners?

frankly, Masters degrees, need to go

[mortal zinc]

i know right man

quite literally, if the word's been used to oppress people, it has to go

and guess what

science has been used to discriminate in the past

gotta dismantle it now

[ancient bolt]

y'all can drop the topic

I'm really uninterested in hearing how "woke" you think everything is and whether or not that's bad. Go have those discussions elsewhere...here is not the place for them

[merry talon]

they do give you the option to change it back

[mortal zinc]

in politics @ancient bolt ?

[potent fossil]

wait yall are being serious about that? lol

[ancient bolt]

I'm honestly not even sure if it's politics appropriate. The rant you were just going on was just...nothing

[potent fossil]

i thought you were meming

[ancient bolt]

useless rambling

[mortal zinc]

yes i was entirely kidding, but it was rooted in frustration

[vestal jasper]

That summarizes 99% of what's said in this server

[left swift]

hi simp

[unkempt drift]

100% meming

[lusty yarrow]

im gonna pregenerate a map for 10k unique player joins, and up to 60 players daily, how big should I make that map?

and worldborder

[coarse lily]

Depends on the server, how big you want the map to be, and how long until map reset b

[zealous wedge]

I'd say about 5

[lusty yarrow]

someone told me 20k by 20k, then 5k more when 1.17 releases

how large of a file would 20k by 20k be?

[coarse lily]

If 1.17 has any block changes you won’t want to gen new terrain on it.

[zealous wedge]

the problem with 1.17 is nobody really knows exactly how the changes will pan out

probably not even mojang

[lusty yarrow]

kk

[coarse lily]

20k x 20k would be roughly 8GB

Without block changes.

So gen larger if you plan to expand border later

[lusty yarrow]

8GB?

ok

thats smaller than I thought

maybe 30k by 30k?

on 1.16 btw

[zealous wedge]

there's really no harm to starting small

you can always expand the border and gen more if you need to

[untold copper]

whats the difference between ticks per second and randomTickSpeed

[left swift]

Ew

Nature

[spice finch]

I wish we had snow even one winter. Since 4 years or so we had maybe 2cm of snow for half of day, until it melted.

And like 6-8 years ago we used to have pretty strong winters here, 2 months of snow and negative temperature

[potent fossil]

random ticks are what makes crops grow and grass spread and stuff. The more often a random tick occurs, the more often one of those things happens

[untold copper]

ooh ok

[coarse lily]

Sup simp

[potent fossil]

:reeeeeeeee:

looks like my nitro expired

[spice finch]

[potent fossil]

@twin lagoon buy me nitro

[waxen panther]

@twin lagoon buy me breakfast

[formal ledge]

Guys random question

The ACLs you talk about usually

Are those access control lists?

[coarse lily]

I haven't heard people here talk about ACLs but that's usually what it means in tech terms.

[spice finch]

maybe you meant ACF? If so, they probably were talking about https://github.com/aikar/commands

[void void]

Wait after the time to switching to Microsoft account run out what will happen to the versions that doesn't support Microsoft auth?

[coarse lily]

RIP

[void void]

Ayyyy

[coarse lily]

Mojang/MS doesn't give a shit about anything other than current versions.

[void void]

Amazing!

[coarse lily]

So I imagine any version that doesn't support MS logins will just be fucked.

But who knows?

[void void]

Probs cause that happened when they switched last time

[coarse lily]

Yeah and MS makes no money off the older versions.

You can't play Minecraft Realms on 1.8.

[spice finch]

I'm wondering how many % of Microsoft earnings from Minecraft are realms

[potent fossil]

a good chunk

[spice finch]

I don't know any person running realms to be honest

[coarse lily]

From MS? Probably .00000001%

For the Minecraft vision of MS? Probably a chunk.

[potent fossil]

oh i didnt even notice the wording there

[coarse lily]

Yeah people who run Realms don't do what we do. And vice versa.

So I don't think there's much overlap. But folks use them.

[potent fossil]

let me tell you who realm is great for

[coarse lily]

My friend's kid just started playing with friends and their friend has a Realm

[spice finch]

yeah I guess it's great for 8 years old who wants to play with school friends

[coarse lily]

Well in this case 13.

But yes :)

[potent fossil]

little kids (cough my niece) who wanna play with their little kid friends (cough my niece's friends), with cool custom maps and full bedrock features, and none of their adult caretakers (cough me) want to run a server (:PES_Cry:)

[spice finch]

and their parents will fund them realms since it's easiest way to run multiplayer world

[coarse lily]

And if parents wanna keep shit controlled then Realms makes more sense then letting them run amok on "whoops someone made a swastika again" public server.

[spice finch]

Well I got curious how much does realms cost, gonna check it out rn

[potent fossil]

sweepy get big pp succ now for buying me nitro

[merry talon]

[coarse lily]

What do you want nitro for, simp?

[potent fossil]

emojis

[coarse lily]

Ahhh

How much is nitro?

[potent fossil]

5 bucks for the version w/o boosts, that gives everything i use (emojis)

[coarse lily]

5 bucks for a year?

[merry talon]

no lol

[potent fossil]

mo

[merry talon]

i wish

[coarse lily]

That's almost the cost of a realm!

(Apparently it's $8/mo)

[merry talon]

[spice finch]

lol, realms seems very cheap. It's less than 10$ monthly

[merry talon]

you can buy like 3 shockbyte servers for the cost of nitro classic

[coarse lily]

I wonder how quick and how many players a Realm holds.

[potent fossil]

this weed is very tasty

[potent fossil]

3

[merry talon]

realms are player capped at 10 or 3

[spice finch]

nice nitro pimple

[merry talon]

so yeah

[coarse lily]

Really? Fuck.

Fuck that.

[potent fossil]

thanks sweepy bought it

[spice finch]

[merry talon]

[potent fossil]

im really loving stephen colbert recently

he's going for it

[spice finch]

lol recently i had few cents there and totally forgot about it

well that's barely enough for nitro

[potent fossil]

it'd leave you 5 cents

[merry talon]

the fees tho

probably not enough

[potent fossil]

it'd leave you -2 cents

[merry talon]

i paid for something with btc because they were offering a 10% discount

but the fucking exchange fee was $2

[spice finch]

ig fees took more than 10%

[merry talon]

on a $5 transfer

[spice finch]

lmao

[potent fossil]

[merry talon]

[spice finch]

hopefully btc goes up to 80k so I can afford two nitros well, one after fee I'd say

[void void]

Oh so apparently pre 1.16.4 servers will still be able to run online mode after the switch to microsoft accounts happen :(

[merry talon]

I can't imagine that not being the case

[void void]

Really wanted that to be the case

[viral hornet]

I want 40k

[waxen panther]

same

[potent fossil]

someone wire me 3k rn

[viral hornet]

Lets make 40k together brocc

[potent fossil]

just 3k

plz

[viral hornet]

No

U

[potent fossil]

gib

[viral hornet]

[vernal moth]

Fyi, microsoft accounts are a thing for many weeks now. Nothing in the session server changed, just the login flow is different

[waxen panther]

CammRealms

[void void]

I mean when they get rid of the mojang auth

[vernal moth]

That will not affect the session server at all

[void void]

Yeah :(

[coarse lily]

We can hope, Mini!

[vernal moth]

Outdated servers aren't a problem really

A great majority of the servers are on latest

[waxen panther]

i dont like old versions but mojang stopping all multiplayer on them would be the wrong decision

[vernal moth]

You can easily ignore outdated versions

[coarse lily]

Yeah, I agree, brocc.

[vernal moth]

Best for everybody

[coarse lily]

All joking aside.

It'd be a bad move.

[waxen panther]

I still play old versions for nostalgia / modded occasionally, obviously I wouldn't host a real server on it but a lot of people just want to play with their friends

[vernal moth]

Whenever ask somebody to support 1.8, just say "no thank you, i don't hate myself enough for that" and ignore them

[waxen panther]

old multiplayer adventure maps would be lost too and they're epic

[coarse lily]

Yeah. It's nice to pull up an old ass map and explore it.

[viral hornet]

lets go

[waxen panther]

camm i cannot tell u how much coursework i've done in the last 24 hours

im cracked

[viral hornet]

That's good tho

[waxen panther]

my building even started a firealarm for me when I fell asleep just so I could work on it more !

[viral hornet]

I saw that haha

[waxen panther]

[viral hornet]

So kind of them 🥺

[coarse lily]

Once upon a time a few years ago I found some BTC in a wallet.

And was like "Nice!" and promptly sold it.

[waxen panther]

F

[coarse lily]

Kinda wish I hadn't found that until now. :)

But I did pay rent with it so. shrug

Can't unring a bell.

[waxen panther]

was that during its old peak or was it still kinda low back then

i cant even remember when the peak was now

memory bad

[coarse lily]

Hm I forget what year it was. IIRC it was ~8Kish.

[waxen panther]

per coin or total

[coarse lily]

Per coin.

[waxen panther]

ayy

thats not bad

i'd take a few thousand

[coarse lily]

I wanna say like 2018? Maybe? I forget.

[vernal moth]

I actually minded btc back in the day

Was still at school, used school PCs

[coarse lily]

Looks like end 2017.

[vernal moth]

Made a couple of hundret dollars

[coarse lily]

When it spiked.

[waxen panther]

out of all the times to sell it, 2018 wasnt bad

[coarse lily]

I also narrowly dodged the MtGox thing.

Yeah.

I mean at one point I had a fuckton.

And sold it when it was worthless.

[spiral robin]

God I wish I sucked it up and bought more in 2016

[coarse lily]

When people were trading pizzas for like 150BTC and shit.

[potent fossil]

:(

[waxen panther]

I've never done much investing like that, I let the banks gamble for me

[spiral robin]

Y'all heard of the guy who lost his hard drive with hundreds of thousands of BTC in a landfill?

[waxen panther]

lol yeah

[potent fossil]

fuck lol

[spiral robin]

https://youtu.be/-DT7bX-B1Mg

[waxen panther]

hehe

my bank ensures i dont lose money but the interest isnt too high

[coarse lily]

A friend of mine lost a bunch of BTC in a wallet on an encrypted drive.

[waxen panther]

except one year i must've gotten some mega genius cuz they damn near doubled my savings lol

[coarse lily]

He still has the drive on a shelf. Worthless.

Last time we did the math on the speculated worth it was . . . high.

[spiral robin]

Yikes

[vernal moth]

One day PCs will be able to crack the encryption

[coarse lily]

Yeah that's the theoretical idea.

[waxen panther]

in 100 years his grandchildren might be billionaires

[coarse lily]

Maybe it can be cracked eventually and BTC won't be worthless?

[waxen panther]

or they might have $1 worth

[coarse lily]

Yep.

BTC isn't "investing" it's gambling.

[waxen panther]

pretty wholesome

[coarse lily]

Although frankly most investing is gambling.

Just more socially acceptable.

I was thinking "Acceptable" and someone said "make an example" and my fingers typed what my ears heard.

That was odd.

[merry talon]

I'm surprised I haven't heard of more people who are just disgustingly rich because they found 10,000 btc on an old hard drive

that has to be a thing right?

[spiral robin]

Yeah

[lean kiln]

most wallets have a key

[potent fossil]

i have such an ungodly desire for unbounded riches it's sickening

[spiral robin]

Yeah

[potent fossil]

😳

[merry talon]

wat

[spiral robin]

[waxen panther]

brocco emotes 😳

[spiral robin]

I use them too much

[waxen panther]

i might get more soon

but i kinda whaled on apex a couple days ago

and i feel bad now

[worn ember]

Brocc is a whale confirmed

[waxen panther]

big time buddy

i spent $120 on a heirloom for a character i dont even play

[worn ember]

Big brain moment

[spiral robin]

Wtf

[waxen panther]

[spiral robin]

Think how many hamburger that was

[waxen panther]

i was peerpressured it's not my fault

stfu

[spiral robin]

[waxen panther]

[spiral robin]

🤡

[waxen panther]

:broccoClown:

[spiral robin]

broccoGiggle

[waxen panther]

if i did get more what should i get next

[coarse lily]

Most people never bothered to buy enough to matter.

A lot of people CLAIM they did but turns out they didn't.

It was flat and/or worthless for so long.

[spiral robin]

this but brocco

[coarse lily]

Then when it started going up most people didn't want to / couldn't afford it.

[waxen panther]

broccoflushed

hmm

[coarse lily]

Every time it spikes people think "Well that's temporary" and it goes up again and then "fuck!"

[waxen panther]

i got an animated brocco flush but it wouldnt look good as an emote

[cosmic raft]

anyone got a suggestion for a movie

[coarse lily]

THE GENTLEMEN

[merry talon]

what genre

[worn ember]

What genre kash

[cosmic raft]

any

[worn ember]

Hacksaw ridge is a great movie

[cosmic raft]

except documentary

[coarse lily]

I did, kashike.

The's a movie.

Guy Ritchie. Recentish.

Entertaining.

[worn ember]

Bad boys for life 😂

[merry talon]

wtf genre is 'swoonworthy'

thanks netflix

[worn ember]

Netflix

Kekekeke

[cosmic raft]

unrelated:

I really wish Google would use .google more

https://keep.google
https://drive.google

etc

[potent fossil]

;o

[merry talon]

yeah why don't they

https://domains.google/

[potent fossil]

https://owo.whats-th.is/3iZMJMa.png

[merry talon]

lol

its private

[potent fossil]

[visual egret]

that explains why they cant use it

[cosmic raft]

my favourite

was when they had https://com.google

which had google.com upside down

[merry talon]

why don't they anymore lol

[visual egret]

although

https://com.microsoft/

is a thing

[merry talon]

wtf

[cosmic raft]

heh

[visual egret]

also has a broken cert lol

[merry talon]

every time i look at domains i see so many TLDs I never knew existed

[visual egret]

.beer

[worn ember]

.sucks was a tld for a while tii

Too

[visual egret]

for a while

what happen

[mossy vessel]

How can people even work with a macbook. Everything's so weird

[merry talon]

google.domains is registered

but not in use

[visual egret]

they get used to it nmf

[merry talon]

its like the halfway point between linux and windows

seems like a good dev experience to me

[visual egret]

well

it is linux

[cosmic raft]

I'll take a macbook if you don't like it

[potent fossil]

no, it's unix

[merry talon]

[visual egret]

wasnt it based on a distro?

[potent fossil]

no

[ancient bolt]

goes from working on windows & WSL to his macbook so he can continue working on the couch

[visual egret]

guess i just misheard something then

[minor badge]

i think oskar means BSD

[visual egret]

who on the planet would host a server on macos willingly

[cosmic raft]

many people do and would

.g apple xserve

[worn ember]

Haha

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xserve

[worn ember]

You already overpay for enterprise hardware anyway. Might aswel overpay even more

[potent fossil]

imagine M1 servers with great cooling

[mossy vessel]

eee

[minor badge]

one of these days swift will be remotely usable outside macos 😔

[mossy vessel]

I was going to replace my cpu but ended up buying so much more crap that arrives by end of next week

[worn ember]

Not any time soon proxi

[mossy vessel]

So I'm either bound to a surface or macbook, where I defo prefer the mac 😂

[cosmic raft]

gimme :(

[mossy vessel]

The mac, orrr

You're more than welcome to build in the new parts

There are so many cables and ugh

[cosmic raft]

the mac!

[mossy vessel]

nooo :(

[visual egret]

i just attached to my tmux session and saw this halp

[coarse lily]

I had an XServe once.

It was the loudest fucking thing I've ever owned.

[potent fossil]

kek

[coarse lily]

Pretty neat piece of hardware, but the enterprise Apple services weren't really there yet.

Which is a bummer.

[topaz mortar]

I would rather host on MacOS than on Windows.
Linux > MacOS >> Windows

[mossy vessel]

I've seen a plenty of people hosting on windoofs at timings

[topaz mortar]

Someone else using the German windumb joke.

[mossy vessel]

ofc 😌

[untold copper]

e

[mossy vessel]

But arch >

[ashen cliff]

Good chat plugin, that isn't total garbage at stopping spam and advertising.

Also dosen't use damn NMS to startup.

[mossy vessel]

None?

runs

[coarse lily]

Carbon is good but I haven't used it for spam or advertising, so not sure on that.

[vernal moth]

Docs.new and stuff are a thing

https://support.google.com/a/users/answer/9308871?hl=en

[cosmic raft]

I know

I specifically want the two I said :P

and mail.google

[topaz mortar]

A private one.
🏃‍♂️👨‍🦼

[ancient bolt]

mail.google is longer than gmail.com lol

[merry talon]

gmail is mail.google.com though

[vernal moth]

Browser history ftw

[cosmic raft]

yea but the point I mean is

only need to type "product.google"

not .com, .ca, .de, etc

[ancient bolt]

yeah the point I mean is you only need to type gmail.com lol

[void void]

@ancient bolt do you have a m1 macbook air

[ancient bolt]

also with autocomplete I only need to type g

yes

[void void]

nice bro is the performance good

i wanted to buy one

for minecraft dev

[ancient bolt]

in some ways it's the fastest computer I own

including faster than my linux desktop

[void void]

have you done any of the paperweight livestreams on it

i'd love to view how the perf is

[ancient bolt]

no

haven't done really any paperweight live streams at all and you wouldn't really get a sense of anything from them anyways. they are really boring

[solid siren]

hi guys
u guys know an option where if a person disconnect their character remain for 10 seconds?
cuz some disconnect to avoid death

[woven otter]

combattag plugins

[viral hornet]

For #delicious-tacos

[woven otter]

tasty

[ashen cliff]

Things to not do: Enable LP debug with 60 people online and have CombatLogX installed.

[worn ember]

Ayayaya

[dark sequoia]

Hi, does anyone know how can PlaceholderAPI retrieve values from MySQL database?

[golden gust]

Placeholder api doesn't, the placeholders themselves do

Beyond that, it's mysql, they just use it

[dark sequoia]

Ahh yes, didn't phrase it correctly.

Need a plugin/solution to retrieve data from mysql, for a placeholder

[vernal moth]

Just write a simple placeholder that accepts arbritrary sql, what could go wrong

[waxen panther]

lmao

[visual egret]

i have found the solution to all my problems https://github.com/tmux-python/libtmux/

[fierce wedge]

has the paper download portal been upgraded? It's super speedy downloads all of a sudden (or rather since I last downloaded a paper from it)

[dark sequoia]

...

[visual egret]

probably v2 api

[indigo bone]

Anyone got any other dedicated hosting provider in Singapore/Asia other than OVH?

[visual egret]

dedicated?

MS Azure?

[indigo bone]

OOh Albert hello, thanks for the attack btw, my server didnt flinch 😄
Cheap trick tho

[urban adder]

hi, what's the replacement for autosaveworld? Backups (not zip), autorestart with one plugin

[visual egret]

autorestart?

[urban adder]

yes O_o

[visual egret]

#!/bin/bash
while true
do
java -Xms1g -Xmx1g -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Daikars.new.flags=true -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -jar paperclip.jar nogui
echo "restarting in 10"
sleep 10
done

thats pretty much it for 1gb ram server

if you want more aikars flags go with https://startmc.sh

[urban adder]

but this script does not do an automatic restart on time

[visual egret]

what do you mean by that?

[olive garden]

restart every day at 3 am

[visual egret]

oh

[urban adder]

in ASW

[visual egret]

find a java equivilant of pythons apscheduler and use use cron to shut the server down

then run it inside that script i sent

[urban adder]

it is necessary to warn the players and disable the server (the script run yourself). also make backups without zip as archiving hundreds of gigabytes creates lags

[visual egret]

fun

more fun

[urban adder]

in general, how do you usually do server backups?

[golden gust]

incremental backups to a hdd in the same box which I auto-pulled to my own network automagically

[teal ermine]

does anyone know any plugins that helps your create shops? talking about rank, key, etc

where the player makes the purchase on a website and an api calls in game

giving the item to player

or any solution

[worn ember]

tebex i suppose, (or whatever buycraft changed to)

[olive marlin]

I think Tebex and CraftStore are 2 biggest ones.

[teal ermine]

yeahh, but we are looking for a plugin where we can use api's in order to do such a thing

[golden gust]

That's literally what those sites do

[teal ermine]

we are looking for a "in game" solution

the external part is handled by our web developers

[golden gust]

tebex offers an in-game UI

I mean, if you want a full control stack, you gotta make your own full solution

[teal ermine]

I don't believe the country the server is originated from is supported by those

hence why we have to create our own..

[olive marlin]

Sounds like China?

[teal ermine]

even worse

[olive marlin]

But yeah, probably need to create your own plugin for it.

[golden gust]

Then you're gonna have to make your own

[teal ermine]

yeah probably we have to make our own

[golden gust]

buycrafts plugin is opensource, but, you'll have to rewrite the entire backend, etc

[teal ermine]

wait it is?

[olive marlin]

It doesn't seem hard, since tebex just runs commands.

[golden gust]

The money is in hosting the platform and processing payments and such, so, no company is gonna offer their platform for free

It's really trivial, all the complexity is in the UI and finding payment processors

[olive marlin]

It has to be open source to not violate bukkit licence.

[warm anchor]

You mean I can’t just use it for free without fee?

[olive marlin]

And since it's company behind it, they probably don't want trouble.

https://github.com/tebexio/BuycraftX

[golden gust]

it's a company

They gotta earn cash to survive and pay their cash

the plugin is open source and users their public APIs

But, the platform that plugin connects to charges you for hosting your store and all that lot

they charge you for processing payments

None of this stuff is free

given how much money there is in the industry as nobody who actually knows what they're doing really wants to deal with such things unless some rando company is backing the liability, nobody really cares to create something open, especially something primarily for others to earn cash on

[ashen cliff]

Well. We almost made our own custom platform for that, since we had to make a prototype store for a bank... but they changed their policy so we yeeted out of there very quickly.

[twin lagoon]

tebex >

[worn ember]

donationcraft 😏

[olive marlin]

I was thinking about using PayPal IPN directly to award "currency" based on the amount, and then handle the store completely in game.

[worn ember]

[teal ermine]

will have to look into it. should not be that hard to create a simple platform of some sorts

[olive marlin]

So, you pay 5USD, you get 500 coins and can buy something cosmetic etc in game.

[worn ember]

Thats illegal sir

[olive marlin]

How is that illegal?

[twin lagoon]

virtual currencies are allowed

[worn ember]

exchanging real money for virtual money breaks the ToS im pretty sure

[olive marlin]

Wasn't it just "don't use our icons and stuff"?

[twin lagoon]

no you can do it one-way

[worn ember]

or was that the exception?

oops

[twin lagoon]

you cannot exchange virtual currency for real money

you can exchange real money for virtual currency

[worn ember]

Carry on then

[olive marlin]

Michale to the rescue

[twin lagoon]

bloodstone

[worn ember]

you almost got arrested

[olive marlin]

BTW, switched to Notion. I like it, but it's way more complex and confusing than Trello so far.

[twin lagoon]

notion

[worn ember]

not using github projects

[twin lagoon]

ew

[worn ember]

lmao

it is pretty shit

[mossy vessel]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

[mental meadow]

@twin lagoon @mossy vessel

[twin lagoon]

[mossy vessel]

[twin lagoon]

nmf

[woven otter]

yeah but you still cant use it to gain advantage right

[merry talon]

ill gain advantage over u

[woven otter]

go to sleep

[void void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741875863271899136/797858114937552936/unknown.png

uml render of essentials

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741875863271899136/797858114937552936/unknown.png

its too large for discord to render

lol

imagine having to maintain this

[visual egret]

pain is eternal

[vernal moth]

Haha you should see some of the shit I do at work

Or well, paper

[void void]

Oh right making a uml of nms would be funny

[vernal moth]

Remember kids, programming is like driving a bike.

But you are on fire, the bike is on fire and everything is on fire because you are in hell.

[void void]

True

[quasi valley]

either you watched a video from the Corridor Crew or it's coincidence

[void void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741875863271899136/797851115298881617/unknown.png

I wonder if thats normal compared to other plugins

[vernal moth]

I have no idea what you are talking about

Stalker

😂

[quasi valley]

[vernal moth]

I like that quote

[quasi valley]

yeah hahaha

[golden gust]

Biggest issue with ess is that the people who made it are morons who can't program

Thankfully, they learn't how to do it