general

[golden gust]

But, now have a codebase where a large % of code was written by morons

[vernal moth]

🎈

[golden gust]

Same issue for any dev, really

get drunk, go look back on the code you wrote even like 2 years ago

bask in how shit the code is and "who the fuck did that"

[woven otter]

that's a beautiful diagram tho

[golden gust]

right click the gutter and enable annotations

[void void]

Kinda like me writing my plugin after 2-3 weeks of starting coding and a year after i hated myself for writing that mess

[golden gust]

wallow in the pain in noticing that it was you.

it was all you.

You monster.

[void void]

Yeah from back then to now its been a loooooong time

How have you been?

[minor badge]

it's tiny, actually

[void void]

Probably nothing compared to nms lol

I should make a uml for that

[minor badge]

i guess you'll find this fun then

[void void]

Why does it have to be svg?

Discord doesn't render that

[minor badge]

because intellij didnt like png

[void void]

Rip

[minor badge]

just open it in your browser

[void void]

Ok gimme a sec

I hope mobiles can render svg

[worn ember]

ur browser can

[minor badge]

i really hope they do lol

[minor badge]

open it in your browser then

[void void]

My galery doesn't

A sec

[worn ember]

thats the ugliest UML i've seen in a long time

[minor badge]

kek

[void void]

Nope it won't let me display it

Only download

[golden gust]

that's discords site forcing stuff to be downloading

I really wish they'd create a useful page there

Like, previews, download if you want it, etc

[minor badge]

that'd be easy smh

[golden gust]

the fact that you're expected to have to download text files is complete BS

[void void]

Or just add svg support

[golden gust]

I mean

you're asking discord to be useful

[minor badge]

i've just become accustomed to copying url and curling text files

[worn ember]

cant display svg on a web framework

[golden gust]

Tbqh, svg's are generally a pita as it's just arbitary code

[worn ember]

i'm sure theres plenty libraries for it

[golden gust]

I mean, theres a standard library for it somewhere iirc

The biggest issue is security, however

SVGs are literally just script files

[void void]

So proxymist was trying to exploit me?

[golden gust]

https://www.trustwave.com/en-us/resources/blogs/spiderlabs-blog/svg-files-are-not-as-benign-as-it-may-seem/

[void void]

Haha

[golden gust]

proxi exploitin' the bois

seems legit

[woven otter]

okay that's actually pretty cool

[worn ember]

.jpg.svg

[cunning raft]

the fact that windows still defaults to not showing file extensions is crazy

[worn ember]

they always show in a zip file tho

[potent fossil]

images running JS

[worn ember]

i mean, worst it can do is download a malicious program

[golden gust]

file extentions and windows are like a double edged sword

[minor badge]

i always try to exploit cat when i can

[worn ember]

who'd wanna click on that anyway

[golden gust]

on one side, many people are dumb, will remove the extention, and cry because their stuff doesn't work for shit

e.g. halp, my image no load, wtf?!

On the other side, people can't see what the file type actually as it's hidden unless they bother to look at the type, which was defo shown better in XP than it is these days, but, do modern PC users really know that a .exe is not an image?

[worn ember]

i'd hope so for them

[olive marlin]

You can also have one file be multiple different types at once - there are tools to make pdf and zip in one file.

[worn ember]

100% sure my mom would fall for it tho

[visual egret]

Wtf apple

[worn ember]

yes but you then need those same tools to reuse them

[void void]

Windows needs a dev mode where file extensions are shown by default

[olive marlin]

No DED

You open it as PDF, you see pdf.

You open with zip, you see files in the zip.

[worn ember]

what if i open it with trashcan?

[olive marlin]

Then you see yourself.

[worn ember]

thats you when downloading a mirror

[void void]

https://youtu.be/nf_YK2kSN_g

[potent fossil]

It actually worked

[ashen cliff]

Why wouldn't it?

[olive marlin]

@worn ember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdmmN0su6E

[visual egret]

no it’s a cat

[ashen cliff]

No.

[quasi valley]

maybe?

[visual egret]

It’s actually zzzcat

[worn ember]

imagine not being allowed to sync your emails...

[void void]

.rekt

[void void]

i agree

[void void]

ok its time to remove my static main and somehow use dependency injection

[minor badge]

the entrypoint of a java app always needs to be a static main

[worn ember]

ion think thats what he meant

[olive garden]

ion think he made any sense

[mental meadow]

thinking is not allowed

[warm anchor]

No thinking, go back to ape

[void void]

y'all should encourage people more into thinking

[olive garden]

no wonder she's working for songoda

[void void]

lmao

[warm anchor]

Wow

[worn ember]

🔥

[warm anchor]

yes this man right here. Fucking murdered

[mental meadow]

first of all, ouch
second: worked, not working

[void void]

trigary getting banned real quick rip

[warm anchor]

Lmao

[olive garden]

oh, I'm glad you stopped

[mental meadow]

I was young and needed the money

[worn ember]

inb4 working for kangarko now

[olive garden]

I mean you were defending working for them just a few months ago

🤔

[worn ember]

moving up in the world

[warm anchor]

Alright ded that’s too much. Cant insult mod like that

[mental meadow]

PaperMC Discord Banned% Worldrecord

[worn ember]

its the dota salt

[warm anchor]

Shhhheeeit

[worn ember]

i lost like 7 games this week

[woven otter]

git gud

[mental meadow]

could be worse than dota

[warm anchor]

[minor badge]

at least she doesn't write a stupid rtp plugin .

[mental meadow]

no, instead I work on better software

Like FAWE

[warm anchor]

Lololol

[worn ember]

LP? low priority?

oof

[woven otter]

at least rtp is useful

[warm anchor]

Wow duck banned

[golden gust]

Who hasn't done shameful things for money

puts his clothes back on

[mental meadow]

exactly

[woven otter]

fair enough

[warm anchor]

is that how paperMC paid for hosting

[olive garden]

I think the "where did you get your first million/thousand?" question applies to tax evasion and not to doing unethical shit

[worn ember]

are you saying tax evasion is ethical?

[golden gust]

Blackjack and hookers

[warm anchor]

IRS has joined the chat

[mental meadow]

Das Bundesministerium für Finanzen would like to know your location

[olive garden]

No. I'm saying that entrepreneurs often have not completely accurate taxes when they start out. At least that's what I was taught in uni by by some guy that's also giving lectures in MIT

[warm anchor]

Fun fact: IRS don’t really care how you get the money. They only care if you report it properly and pay them.

[olive garden]

fun fact: I'm not like the IRS

[void void]

depends on in which country, lol

[woven otter]

hmm I have always wanted to start meth business

[void void]

(taking IRS as in IRS-like thing in all countries)

[warm anchor]

But you are a duck

Yeah I guess it varies largely depend on country

[worn ember]

dont need to pay taxes if you donthave income

[warm anchor]

Just be neet

[visual egret]

pog

[vernal moth]

Just came home, i would be down for a round it you want

[minor badge]

@mossy vessel kek

[mossy vessel]

???

wat

[mental meadow]

oh nice yea

[warm anchor]

You just get kek’d nmf

[vernal moth]

Imagine using quotes proxi ^^

Gimme a minute or two aurora

[mental meadow]

k

[vernal moth]

Using my hairdryer to warm my hands 😂 😂

[mossy vessel]

I'm suuuper busy rn smh

[vernal moth]

It's fucking cold outside

[mental meadow]

thats a good idea lol

my hands are freezing as well

[worn ember]

mini also has poopoo mmr confirmed

[vernal moth]

Minewhile, me drives using summer tires cause as always, me didnt think about buying winter tires

[mental meadow]

our car was not happy today

[mossy vessel]

Don't you have a garage which does that stuff???

[worn ember]

you still gotta pay for them

[vernal moth]

Which is ok, but, you gotta actually go there 😂

[mental meadow]

the ESC was blinking all the time

[mossy vessel]

lmao

[vernal moth]

See, doing stuff isn't one of my strong suits

[mossy vessel]

I get a SMS reminder :P

[vernal moth]

I never started doing it

So no reminders for me 😂

[mental meadow]

Imagine not changing your tires yourself

[vernal moth]

Back when I was just using my parents car, my dad whole change the tires

[mossy vessel]

I don't have the space to store them somewhere around

[vernal moth]

My first car had "all weather tries" or whatever so i never bothered

And for this one I just went 🤷‍♂️

[mental meadow]

we went car sliding today,was fun

[mossy vessel]

You have to treat your car like a baby wtf

Cannot treat it like that :(

[worn ember]

not like it snows a lot anyway

if ur lucky you'll get some hail and some slippery roads

[vernal moth]

well, luckly my car was more icy then the road

so no issues here

[worn ember]

become what you fear most

[vernal moth]

but in the past I remember my mom calling me "please come home, theres a snow storm" when I was at friends, where it was 5+ degrees

[mental meadow]

it had fun tho

[vernal moth]

I just wanted to find that photo and entered snow into google photos

one of the results:

[mossy vessel]

[mental meadow]

130km/h on the autobahn sliding 😄

[quasi valley]

pff

unlimited km/h on the autobahn sliding

[wide chasm]

"Wir bauen für Sie" comes along
slows back down to 80 km/h

[untold copper]

worst example ever

[visual egret]

its actually a very accurate example

its called "depression"

jk

[warm anchor]

When will we get a collab project from Oskar and Snoopa?

[visual egret]

umm

well

oskar and snoopa dm's exposed

[pale hinge]

hi, i have a selfmade plugin, but its only on my lobby server. and i want to be able to send commands to this plugin from my survival server. should i create a bungeecord plugin as well? whats the best way?

[zealous wedge]

look into the bungee plugin message protocol

[visual egret]

^

but

use velocity

its better

[worn ember]

how would you even know tho

[visual egret]

what?

i am responsible for hosting velocity on a raspi

and on my old install

which makes me responsible for arm existing on that chat lol

https://bstats.org/plugin/server-implementation/Velocity/4752

[limber knot]

What the hell is this graph: https://bstats.org/plugin/server-implementation/Velocity/4752#managed_servers

[spare venture]

looks like gc lol

[golden gust]

There is no way

No way

That you came from my loins

When I get home, imma punch yo' mama in the mouth

[spare venture]

what

[mental meadow]

Probably weird question, does anyone know a library/editor for syntax highlighting with minecraft functions?

[visual egret]

theres probably a vscode extension, i remember something

[mental meadow]

something web based would be awesome

[visual egret]

isn't vscode web based

[olive marlin]

My only idea would be to check if chorus does that.

https://github.com/iAmGio/chorus

[mental meadow]

I don't think functions are yml

[olive marlin]

Oh, right.

I never used it, only saw it can be neat for some things.

[minor badge]

That seems like networks that clean up stale minigame servers only every few days :p

[void void]

vscode is a web app

so technically oskar's right

[mental meadow]

ah

[void void]

runs

[limber knot]

Must be pretty large networks then

[mental meadow]

Well I was more hoping to have something self hosted or smth

[void void]

set up public vnc server, running vsc in a sandbox

[minor badge]

The Archon or something probably, Geo

[mental meadow]

Not really an option^^ They want an editor on a website, and highlighting there would be awesome

[visual egret]

aurora its pretty simple

copy and paste the vscode plugin 😎

[vernal moth]

is it tho? its not accessible from the web. just because it uses web technologies and a browser doesnt make it a web app 😛

[twin lagoon]

@ashen cliff you're a zgc expert

every time i run zgc i get concerned with shit like this https://owo.whats-th.is/7nfA8bt.png

[golden gust]

Actually

[twin lagoon]

it's not actually pausing for 2000ms though is it lmao

[void void]

novnc

.g novnc

:^)

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://novnc.com/info.html

[mental meadow]

sadly not an option :c

[golden gust]

There are syntax highlighing libraries and stuff

[void void]

i'm joking obviously

[twin lagoon]

@mental meadow

[golden gust]

you'd need a schema for it, however

[worn ember]

Brigadier js

[mental meadow]

[vernal moth]

github has a schema

[golden gust]

https://github.com/cdr/code-server

[woven otter]

what is aurora trying to do

[worn ember]

There's also highlight.js

[vernal moth]

https://github.com/Levertion/mcfunction-langserver

[mental meadow]

syntax highlighting for web editor mcfunctions

[ashen cliff]

I'm just say it. Avoid at all cost.

[vernal moth]

https://github.com/Arcensoth/language-mcfunction

many many libs

[mental meadow]

thx

[twin lagoon]

what happened to simping zgc

[golden gust]

cause = Allocation Rate

It's almost like we keep saying...

[worn ember]

It's almost as if cat knows something

[olive garden]

I personally blame ded for the lag spikes

[worn ember]

False. Ded is fully async

[visual egret]

mfw bluemap

[olive garden]

async or not, GC still fucks you

[woven otter]

async = fast btw

[worn ember]

I'm not into gc

I'm reporting it for sexual harassment

[olive garden]

I'm talking about gc, not cp

[worn ember]

Bruh

[woven otter]

gc is not into you but it still needs to deal with your trash

[worn ember]

😏😏

[ashen cliff]

Well, just looking at the picture, I'm assuming it's a survival server with a lot of BS going on.

And debugging that is not a lot of fun.

[twin lagoon]

pretty much

[worn ember]

Copy isn't better tho smh

[void void]

Hello how is everyone?

[worn ember]

Yes.

[golden gust]

Issue is that MC throws out a ton of crap in a tick, the way ZGC works does not really cope well with dealing with that excessive allocation rate unless you can find the balance between your CPU crapping itself and your heap being full or whatever the criteria is to reference count and stuff

[woven otter]

$uper nice

[ashen cliff]

Aka, don't use it on Survival.

[void void]

ping papermc.io -l 65500

I'm pinging

[minor badge]

what exactly do you think cloudflare will do when you send 65k packets out of nowhere

[limber knot]

It's not that massive of an amount

[ashen cliff]

Ignore it?

[deft tapir]

is this the exploit that people were trying to do to crash servers

cuz ngl its quite funny watching them rage quit when it doesnt work

[twin lagoon]

yes

[deft tapir]

ah nice

[woven otter]

how does it work

[limber knot]

Portal creation gone wrong I assume from the patch notes

[coarse lily]

It sends a message to the console that says “Michael says crash” and it crashes.

It’s something about direction

The portal one is a different one.

[limber knot]

Ah

The paper team hides their exploit patches all too well

[woven otter]

is the patch public

[wide chasm]

All patches are public

[limber knot]

yes ofc

Otherwise it wouldn't be patched

[deft tapir]

trolls are gettin trolled having the exploits fixed already lol

[woven otter]

wasn't it patched by spigot tho

[deft tapir]

wasting their time to try and crash it to see that nothing happens

[mental meadow]

yea

After we patched it

[woven otter]

oh

[warm anchor]

It’s hidden if people can’t read /s

XD

[mental meadow]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/428db483a7af6978f90cfa952514798fb9847a05
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/7cbd4ca191d5abd67e7e02de21c0236a6a21abd1

[woven otter]

ty

lol okay

[limber knot]

Okay, then I was speaking about the right patch after all

[woven otter]

how long has that even been a thing

[coarse lily]

Oh it was portal

I just remember direction.

[tropic nymph]

up doesn't have a counterclockwise direction apparently

[warm anchor]

Whoever discovered it is nice. Now we can push everyone to use latest or continue to be crashed

[deft tapir]

im just glad i actually updated quickly yesterday when i saw the announcement lol

[limber knot]

Wasn't it around for some time already?

[deft tapir]

well they announced it yesterday anyways

it was actually merged 5 days ago it seems

[slim nymph]

I was gonna short tag my spigot post on zgc but forgot

Anyone running build 400 yet notice any improvement?

[deft tapir]

im on 399 lol

[twin lagoon]

what happened in 400

.downloads

[limber knot]

https://papermc.io/downloads

[slim nymph]

I put a performance optimization in 400

[twin lagoon]

epic

[slim nymph]

Spent like 6 fucking hours profiling

[deft tapir]

fun

[slim nymph]

Did alot of equal testing, 30 min runtime with 10 minutes sessions

Giving time for warmup

[warm anchor]

Did Aikar update his pc yet. I still remember that fast chunk loading video of his pc struggling

[twin lagoon]

[slim nymph]

Nope

[untold copper]

e

[slim nymph]

I aired it out lol helped a little

[warm anchor]

Hahahaha

[slim nymph]

If I get the 4k stimulus might do it then

[warm anchor]

if you can find stock

[slim nymph]

I'm not going 3000

[warm anchor]

Oh it should be plenty then

[slim nymph]

I'll run 1070 lol

[warm anchor]

Ouch

[twin lagoon]

you run linux

get an amd card

smh

[slim nymph]

I don't game

It's for minecraft only

[cosmic raft]

how is a 1070 "ouch"?

[twin lagoon]

kashike

[warm anchor]

Wouldn’t it help MC as well ? To have better card?

[slim nymph]

I get 400 fps with 970

Wtf more do I need

[warm anchor]

Gotta try shaders!

[slim nymph]

On this old hardware

[untold copper]

shaders

Yeah no

not in normal gameplay atleast

I find em highly inconvenient

[golden gust]

Totally keep forgetting to look at making async getChunkAt calls use the async stuff

[ashen cliff]

Just keep running old hardware, so you can find performance issues faster.

[warm anchor]

Lol

[limber knot]

Use the human JVM, it will also allow to see heap issues in real time

[ashen cliff]

Just use ZGC, find heap issues instantly.

[spare venture]

I want a stimulus check but my parents claim me as a dependency 😦

[warm anchor]

You will still get it

Well I mean your parent will

Ask them to pay up

[spare venture]

No they get nothing

[warm anchor]

I though you get like $600

[spare venture]

If the dependent is over 18, parents get $0

[warm anchor]

For kids

[spare venture]

And dependent gets $0

[warm anchor]

[spare venture]

Yeah it’s fucked

[warm anchor]

Welp

[spare venture]

Which means college students basically don’t get it

Some of the people who need it the most lol

[limber knot]

but they had no damages from the current situation anyways \s

[warm anchor]

just live on the street

[spare venture]

Nothing like graduating in the worst job market of all time

Totally don’t need help

[worn ember]

Stupid dependencies

[spare venture]

Lol

[worn ember]

Delete it out of the pom

[warm anchor]

Imagine being roasted by literal ded

[worn ember]

I'm a pro roaster

I'll Voiceline you every time you make a mistake

[slim nymph]

Barty I think you do get it but you have to put in request for it

[merry talon]

lol up here its like

are you a citizen? Here have $500

Or it might have even been

Do you live here

[vernal moth]

I get tax cut and bonus stuff for every day Home-Office or smth

Families get extra money tho, a couple hundret for a few months

[mossy vessel]

Taxes have been risen again smh

[vernal moth]

Mmh

?

I will pay way less tax next year since the soli is gone

[spare venture]

Really! I’ll have to look into that

Thanks.

[mossy vessel]

Not for everyone

Just for singles earning less than 73k/y without any tax deduction afaik

Looks like I need to get married asap

[worn ember]

Hot single moms in your area

[cunning raft]

spigot nexus down for anyone else

[mossy vessel]

yes

[cunning raft]

ah okay good

[mossy vessel]

gh actions just failed lul

[vernal moth]

Ez solution, dpeend on paper

[cunning raft]

ur maven repo ain't the best either

i get peer-not-authenticated at least 5x a day from it

[upper flicker]

you ever think about reporting that?

because Ive never heard of it

[cunning raft]

@upper flicker im getting peer-not-authenticated from the paper repo 5x a day

[upper flicker]

get fucked

[cunning raft]

fuck u

[upper flicker]

:^)

[cosmic raft]

provide proof :P

[cunning raft]

@upper flicker https://i.imgur.com/IDc2Ph6.png

[upper flicker]

that wasnt an issue on our end

glhf

[cunning raft]

what do you need

can't repro rn since spigot is down but if i run a gradle build enough it triggers

[worn ember]

Time to switch back to maven

[cosmic raft]

no.

[worn ember]

So adventure is fully merged into paper now right?

[cosmic raft]

no, an open PR

It needs rebasing and such

But as I said internally the other day

I'm taking a small break from all projects, for the weekend + coming week

[vernal moth]

If all that is missing to get it merged is a rebase, i can take a look

[worn ember]

Can we get compoments on signs then?

I hate having to set the lines through strings

[golden gust]

Yes, already done

[worn ember]

Cool beans

[cosmic raft]

Not all; needs a couple more things, see #abenteuer

[mental meadow]

Mini I've been trying to rebase it but failing horribly

[cosmic raft]

huh

https://i.imgur.com/YGpnkmS.png

neat

[potent fossil]

kash is very saucy

[twin lagoon]

[pale hinge]

hi guys. what do you think about Tuinity or Purpur. Are they worth trying? Especially for a survival server.

[twin lagoon]

both are fine

do note no support is provided here when you use one of those forks

[pale hinge]

thank you. do you think i can get any performance increase?

[golden gust]

purpur cherry picks patches from tuinity

[olive marlin]

If you have a lot of players, yes.

[golden gust]

tuinity is more on the bleeding edge but has more performance stuff

[pale hinge]

i have around 30-50 concurrent players

so should i give a try?

[spare venture]

yes

there’s no reason not to try it

it has greater performance improvements over paper

[pale hinge]

im just afraid to get some random crashes or whatever.

[spare venture]

you won’t

[pale hinge]

if you guys say its good, then for sure i will try

thank you ❤️

so which one i should try? purpur or Tuinity

[twin lagoon]

purpur is tuinity with extra bloatware/gimmicks

tuinity is paper with more performance

[void void]

it's not like you have to pick yatopia

don't worry

yatopia's the one which corrupts your shit :)

[pale hinge]

😄

okay guys, thank you so much!

[viral hornet]

Good morning Paper

[limpid comet]

hi camm

sorry, cammm

[viral hornet]

Bluely

[signal sequoia]

Hı everyone

[viral hornet]

G'day!

[quasi valley]

@viral hornet beard pics?

[viral hornet]

no just look at sonoffoe

he has hotter beard

[signal sequoia]

What do u think flamecord?

[mossy vessel]

🚮

[viral hornet]

idek what that is

oh a bungeecord fork 🤢

Just use Waterfall

Or, Velocity if you can move away from Bungee

Wait, no, Flamecord is a fork of Travertine which is a fork of Waterfall which is a fork of Bungee?

[vernal moth]

Velocity all the way

Fuck bungee

[viral hornet]

hot

My pepe vomit emoji has been removed somewhere

and i'm stressed

What is this shit replacement

[void void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/721374093689225316.gif?v=1

@viral hornet

[viral hornet]

mikro 🥺

[void void]

jfc this is so horrible

[viral hornet]

🥺

[mental meadow]

why is php so awful

who hurt it

[astral knot]

Does anyone know Spanish? I received a Spanish translation PR for a plugin, but it duplicates an existing translation; which one is better?
Sorry for posting it here, but I didn't know where else to put it.

[twin lagoon]

not spanish but left seems better than right

the capitalization seems off on the right

[cunning raft]

anyone know if the bstats frontend is cached?

like how long data takes to update

[vernal moth]

The backend updates like every 30 minutes or smth

So yeah, if you just started a server, i could theoretically take an hour to show up

[cunning raft]

aight ill wait it out then

[potent fossil]

@astral knot left is better than right

right changes a few words that might be better, but it changes other shit that just fucks it

keep left

[astral knot]

Thanks

Actually, @potent fossil , would you mind stating the specific words you would change? While I have this open, I may as well selectively merge some of it.
Thanks again!

[candid mesa]

I’m trying to figure out how to have kits that issue a command, but only for the blocks in the kit itself. So say, a mushroom can be used to do /lottery GUI by right-clicking, but a mushroom from the regular inventory will not do that.

[spare venture]

Why do many plugins show tab completions when users don’t have perks for them?

[candid mesa]

Anyone know how this can be done? Is it possible with the default essentials kits and a plug-in like my command?

[spare venture]

.g my command

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://login.command.kw.com/

[spare venture]

.g my command spigot

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/mycommand.22272/

[spare venture]

“Run commands with any item , block, signs, book and villager npcs.”

Essentials kit won’t be able to do that

[olive garden]

no, party, there is no your command

it is our command

okay?

[spare venture]

It really frustrates me that players can see a ton of commands that they shouldn’t be able to

[limber knot]

become a plugin dev and filter that stuff out or fix 'em urself den

convert ur frustration into productivity

[spare venture]

I am a plugin dev

Is it just because these plugins don’t register their commands properly

[potent fossil]

I'm not a native, just took classes, so keep that in mind. However:
Destino no valido (Destiny/destination not valid) seems better than Elige Destino (Choose Destiny/Destination)

ecoDeduct and ecoRefund are fine, but the left says "You paid %cost" and "Reimbursed/Refunded %cost" whereas the right says "Deducted %cost" and "Returned %cost" so you choose.

I personally like the left for ecoInFunds saying "You don't have enough money" whereas the right says "Insufficient Funds"

Most of the createXyz ones the right wants to capitalize, change "Portal" => "Gate" (if you like that then ok), and use ese/esa vs este/esta (that vs this). So I kinda like the left side for these.

And the rest look better on the left too. So really just the first few I would consider taking I guess. @astral knot

[limber knot]

no

it's cuz perms aren't defined in plugin.yml

[spare venture]

So they aren’t doing it properly then

Shitty plugins

[limber knot]

PR time for barty

[spare venture]

Nah I’m not PRing 50 plugins to fix their mess

Is there anything I can do on my end to fix this without modifying the plugin.yml for every plugin

[olive garden]

he just wants to use plugins without putting any effort into them :(

give back to the word barty

[spare venture]

That’s a dumb thing to say

[olive garden]

😢

barty isn't having any of my shit

[limber knot]

yes

there's an event or something

playercommandsomethingidk

[spare venture]

Alright

[olive garden]

PlayerCommandSendEvent

[spare venture]

I didn’t know if it was possible

[olive garden]

as per TabCompleteEvent's JavaDocs

well it took me a whole two minutes to figure out while spamming you with my bullshit

[spare venture]

I figured since every plugin seems to have a fucked up plugin.yml, there was a reason they’re all broken

[limber knot]

we all know that you too have done a player#hasPermission

[void void]

A hi

Hi

[spare venture]

Not for commands

[olive garden]

tbh I just learned now why it's better to specify the permission in the yml

but I don't make any commands without a framework now so it doesn't really matter

[zealous wedge]

nobody bothers to learn superperms

it's really sad

same as the rest of the bukkit API tbh

it has some good parts

just nobody uses or maintains them

[worn ember]

I just let acf deal with the crap that is commands

[spare venture]

Yup

[olive garden]

yeah be big brain ded and don't use the "crap that is commands"

[woven otter]

why

[olive garden]

because of tab completions

[zealous wedge]

you can also write descriptions for permissions that way

[spare venture]

It’s the “/daddy” debate all over again

[worn ember]

/daddy uwu what is that bulge

[zealous wedge]

https://github.com/Bukkit/HomeBukkit/blob/master/src/main/resources/plugin.yml#L1 this is what Bukkit thinks your plugin.yml should look like

[spare venture]

This time it’s “/spawnmythicmob” I’m tired of players bringing that up

Spawn my thic mob

[worn ember]

Thicc

[merry talon]

wtf is /daddy

[worn ember]

How are multilines allowed without "" @zealous wedge

[olive garden]

that's just YML

[worn ember]

Or '' whatever they are

[merry talon]

Because yaml is fucking horrifying

[zealous wedge]

*because yaml is great

[olive garden]

due to it being multiline it's already a string

makes sense

[spare venture]

PlaceholderAPI had an alias called /daddy

[worn ember]

I thought you needed them for multi lines

Weird

[zealous wedge]

https://yaml.org/spec/1.1/#block scalar style/syntax

nope

[worn ember]

But if I add special chars to my string it shits it's pants. Ok then

[candid mesa]

But is it possible that not all say grass blocks issue the command, but just a specific one used in a kit?

[potent fossil]

damn Bukkit's old idea of the built in database was actually kinda convenient

[spare venture]

Clip didn’t hide the tab completions because of the same reason I’m complaining right now, so many plugin devs just don’t give a fuck apparently lol

[potent fossil]

im sure it was evil in implementation tho

[zealous wedge]

it was ebeans

it was fine except that the versions of ebeans that bukkit had never got updated

[worn ember]

Ok that site is unreadable on mobile

[zealous wedge]

and they used sqlite rather than h2

[spare venture]

Not with EssentialsX kits

[potent fossil]

F

[candid mesa]

Know of any?

[spare venture]

Or my command apparently

CommandToItem works but it sucks. I just wrote my own instead

[void void]

did i read beans

Lol there was a Beans database

That's epic

[candid mesa]

Looking at commandtoitem, it’s consumed

Looking for more a a cmdi type thing but only for kits

Where you get to keep the item

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/playerkits-fully-configurable-kits-1-8-1-16.75185/

Would this work?

[spare venture]

how do people not be paper 1.0 in paper-help

[merry cave]

anyone know a good plugin for dragon respawn?

[warm anchor]

Yeah you place 4 crystal ...

[merry cave]

automated

though

[brave radish]

not a recent one

[zealous wedge]

/summon

but with redstone

[potent fossil]

Discord stickers

[brave radish]

i have a serious legal question tho: can i use paper if i think nachos are the best food in the world? they're pretty much just crumbled up tacos...

[potent fossil]

no

[brave radish]

but aikar likes steak more...

[potent fossil]

Aikar knows the truth

[warm anchor]

This is how discord spend all their money on??

[potent fossil]

custom stickers when

need uwu stickers

[warm anchor]

I mean if custom like LINE the message app from Japan

It will be a nice way for artist to make few extra bucks while discord take some fees

But if it’s just discord one I doubt many people will use them

[spare venture]

why are stickers a thing

[potent fossil]

[spare venture]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-sticker-discord-sticker-gif-19621544

same thing

shitty quality tho

and bigger

[potent fossil]

it's probably just the same technology as emojis, just displayed larger

the quality issue could be solved lol

[spare venture]

yes

that was just the first gif i found

[warm anchor]

I’d take custom profile

~~so I can shill my weeb server even more ~~

[spare venture]

discord's monetization methods are really weird

[brave radish]

gotta say i do like the animated reactions tho

[warm anchor]

It kinda works though have you seen those big weeb server giving them $2000 a month from boosting alone

[spare venture]

they do it in a weird way, i feel like they could do it better

but i'm not complaining

[brave radish]

:weewoo_blue:

[warm anchor]

[brave radish]

and weewoo red

[spare venture]

you run a weeb server lol

[warm anchor]

Yes

[spare venture]

woah since when can we preview discords

that seems kinda sketchy

[warm anchor]

You have to open it to public

You can click on emojis to join too ^ if you are on desktop

[brave radish]

the only time i want nitro is when someone says "can you help with blah blah blah" someone else says "what version" and they say "1.8"

[spare venture]

ah

[brave radish]

or when they say autoupdated to latest

[twin lagoon]

[brave radish]

michael got anything for #adorable-pets ?

[olive marlin]

Right, you haven't posted any kitties there recently Michale.

[twin lagoon]

sec

[brave radish]

it's been like... 6 days lol

too long

yay!

why does this reaction exist lol

[olive marlin]

Which one?

[brave radish]

the one i just used

[olive marlin]

Because Kotlin is great.

But you can use it to start a war in here sometimes lol

[brave radish]

oh i used the wrong one

check again

@olive marlin

[olive marlin]

Because, as I said, Kotlin is great and some people don't agree with it.

[brave radish]

i just wish they would finish with wasm

[golden gust]

kotlin masterlang

[olive marlin]

You can transpile Kotlin to JS. Do you really still need WASM?

[golden gust]

wanna see my masterwang

[twin lagoon]

bloodstone go to bed

[brave radish]

no, in fact JS Kotlin is useful for Node, but it'd be nice

[golden gust]

native or gtfo!

[olive marlin]

I'd rather use Rust WASM or something else that isn't interpreted.

Michale I'm finishing my final big chapter of my thesis that is due in 22 hours.

[twin lagoon]

[brave radish]

says the java dev

[golden gust]

the kotlin ecosystem is interesting as it's one of very few places where it's like one lang to rule them all

I mean, JVM is nice because cross platform

[olive marlin]

I want to do it now ( I have 1 more subsection and the summary of the chapter to go).

[golden gust]

transpiling, etc, is ass

[brave radish]

i keep forgetting to turn off pings on replies. ig it doesn't rly matter cuz u were here anyway

[golden gust]

especially for things like windows where you don't wanna touch it

[olive marlin]

Yeah, Kotlin has decent ecosystem.

[dull linden]

when one plugin tanks tps by 7 <o/

[olive marlin]

But I kinda not a fan of maven/gradle tbh.

[golden gust]

as, if there is one OS which is gonna shit the bed randomly one day, it's gonna be windows

Or some rando bsd distro you never heard of

[olive marlin]

SerenityOS?

[twin lagoon]

serenityos

[olive marlin]

Speaking of SerenityOS: https://hxp.io/blog/79/hxp-CTF-2020-wisdom2/

Or video version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUh507Na9nk

Yes, I'm watching exploit videos at 2 AM instead of writing my thesis, don't judge me.

[twin lagoon]

stop typing on discord

write ur thesis

[brave radish]

it's weird how interesting it is to just read through all the commits to PaperMC/paper

*checks EntityMoveEvent* - still not touched

more important things to do anyway, ik

rly Mojang should pay y'all

[spare venture]

why

[brave radish]

if everyone ran vanilla servers their game would be dead

[spare venture]

mojang doesnt have to worry about performance, the community does it for them

why would they pay when it's done for free

[brave radish]

not just performance

no minigame servers with vanilla

no dupe fixes within 1 eon

[brave radish]

cuz money is nice to have and Paper/Spigot made mojang a lottt of money

[golden gust]

"My 3d printer ran out of ink" ~ToT

[hollow plaza]

Well they actually fixed at least 2 dupes just in 1.16.2

[olive marlin]

Anyone checked if they pulled Paper patch or something custom?

[hollow plaza]

One of them paper didn't have fixed, the other one was fixed. Not sure if they pulled code

[golden gust]

We submit our stuff to mojang, but, legalities of pulling code from others and the fact that mojang is in much deeper control of stuff is generally means that they can make wider changes than we can maintain, etc

[spiral robin]

Good evening

[olive marlin]

Deciding to put my partial thesis deadline on my birthday was a mistake 😴

[limber knot]

ya, shoulda done it the day after!

[candid mesa]

Anyone know how I can auto-promote someone who voted for 3 hours, and then demote them again?

[unkempt drift]

I’m guessing there’s a “schedule” command plugin, so on the vote plugin, just have it promote, and schedule to demote.

[golden gust]

if you mean with perms plugins, see luckperms

They literally have a temp perms system, if you need anything fancy beyond that, 🤷‍♂️

[worn pasture]

yeah just use /lp user <user> parent addtemp <group> <duration>
ez mode

[potent fossil]

@olive marlin I noticed he recently started saying "Idearr" like an Australian and it's so weird with the rest of his German accent lmao

[merry talon]

you dont pay someone for something they're already doing for free

that's like the first rule of business

[spare venture]

he is a Minecraft server owner I think he knows more about business than toy sweepy

[merry talon]

i took a business class in high school

i failed but

[worn pasture]

are you australian

[merry talon]

bill gates dropped out too lolololol

no

[coarse lily]

Bill Gates dropped out of college.

[worn pasture]

you ended a sentence with "but" which is a very aussie thing to do

[coarse lily]

Smart guy.

[heady spear]

college dropout gang gang

[worn pasture]

can't drop out of college if you never went

[thorny totem]

Does anyone has issues with SpigotMC.org website? Somehow it banned my IP, says it triggered the security solution? How the hell, never happened in the past

[worn pasture]

Does anyone has issues with SpigotMC.org website?
Yes
plenty

[merry talon]

are you just getting a cloudflare captcha

lol

[thorny totem]

nope, blacklisted

https://i.qcfb.ca/20210110215940.png

[merry talon]

oh thats waf

[coarse lily]

That's a Cloudflare thing

[thorny totem]

from my residential ISP, not a VPN issue

[coarse lily]

Pretty weird.

[thorny totem]

Don't know if its because of the Spigot Notification chrome plugin that caused it?

been using it for years

[coarse lily]

Hm could be.

Maybe they started cracking down on things that were hitting the site more often? I don't know.

[thorny totem]

idk

[limber knot]

spigot does not like automated access

so if it's doing that they may have just banned you

[thorny totem]

Spigot Notifier only notifies me about plugin updates or new posts, never caused such an issue before this extension was created? Though I can access it from my dedi server

[limber knot]

nope, I'm in

I don't use many addons tho

[thorny totem]

Got it fixed, someone else told me it was caused by Universal Bypass which I had enabled. Disabled it and can access to SpigotMC website. Wasn't my IP banned but the useragent was borked

on spigot's discord

[coarse lily]

Yeah that makes sense.

It looked like a cloudflare thing.

[thorny totem]

yeah

[spare venture]

Pretty sure that addon is blocked by cloudflare now?

[limber knot]

wat universal bypass

dahek r u doin

[thorny totem]

Probably a recent update f**'ked it, someone forked it on github and applied a small fix, I'll leave that disabled

adf.ly things

[limber knot]

wut in the world r u downloadin through adfly these days

[spare venture]

Yeah it bypasses link shorteners and stuff

[thorny totem]

^

[limber knot]

I just use wheregoes for that stuff

[spare venture]

k

[limber knot]

still y tho

[merry talon]

i now own the domain 🙌🐍.ml

[potent fossil]

disgusting

[merry talon]

and 😳😩.ml

[potent fossil]

why do these exist, you cant even type emojis on desktop w/o an external app that im not even sure exists lmao

[limber knot]

domains with emojis show up weird when setting as ur irc hostname

u can

winkey + .

[merry talon]

yeah but unfortunately

discord converts them

[limber knot]

not really typing, but is native

[spiral robin]

lol

[merry talon]

https://🙌🐍.ml

:(

[potent fossil]

lol

now we just need emoji tld...

[spiral robin]

hey-cutie.😳

[potent fossil]

@spiral robin pogi ka

🥺

[spiral robin]

ikaw ay isang cutie

[potent fossil]

[spiral robin]

🥺

[potent fossil]

that's definitely the google translate way ™️ 🥺

[spiral robin]

i not know filipino

[potent fossil]

it's ok pogi 🥺

[spiral robin]

no u pogi

[potent fossil]

[potent fossil]

huh

[vestal jasper]

Ok

[unkempt drift]

???

[potent fossil]

im very confused

[warm anchor]

is this some spigot meme I missed

[waxen panther]

lock him in spigot

pls

[potent fossil]

i think it's just plain sexism and homophobia

[heady spear]

@potent fossil thx for ur support on spigot

it means a lot to me

[potent fossil]

wat

[warm anchor]

lol

[heady spear]

dum

[potent fossil]

oh yeah first i rated it funny but didnt wanna offend ™️

[heady spear]

offend who lol

[potent fossil]

u

[heady spear]

why the fuck would i be offended by that lmao

[potent fossil]

idk cuz u r little baby wah wah

[spare venture]

what the fuck did i just look at lol

[heady spear]

wtf bitch what did u just call me

[merry talon]

@void void

request for comments

[spare venture]

oo has md5 written a 5 hour long reply to that data collection suggestion yet

[heady spear]

im blocking u @potent fossil

[potent fossil]

no

[spare venture]

don't bring him back

[heady spear]

yes

u suck

[potent fossil]

i will not add you back if you block me again .

[spare venture]

tf is wrong with you saying "i'd turn this bitch straight"

[potent fossil]

<@&748618676189528155>

plz just.

end this.

end me.

end us all.

[spare venture]

go back to spigot plz

[spiral robin]

hello

[heady spear]

bye

[waxen panther]

imagine

out of curiosity, how old are you

[limber knot]

wuts goin on fellow gamers

[waxen panther]

hello robo gamer

hows the meme server

[spare venture]

.g imagine spigotmc

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/authors/imaginedev.1069250/

still lookin 4 ppl like u 2 /apply

[waxen panther]

i cant see age

i barely use spigot tho

[spare venture]

i dont think it has it

new account tho

minecraft character as avatar

[waxen panther]

[spiral robin]

[heady spear]

@potent fossil stop being mean then

[waxen panther]

how old r u though you didnt answer 🎻

[potent fossil]

i am not being mean .

[heady spear]

yes u r

u r

the meanest

[potent fossil]

[waxen panther]

i think simple should be more like sykkuno

[spare venture]

.g sykkuno

[potent fossil]

what

[heady spear]

yes be wholesome and cute

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Sykkuno

[spare venture]

oh weeb stuff

[heady spear]

?

what

[waxen panther]

what

i swear some people see an image that isnt a landscape real life photo and they think its weeb

[potent fossil]

how do i be more like sykkuno 🙏

[waxen panther]

love everyone

[heady spear]

stop being a mean cunt

[spiral robin]

@waxen panther

@potent fossil

[waxen panther]

time for dinner i think

[heady spear]

stop spamming aber

ill call the mods

brocc it's 5 am

[potent fossil]

this is literally me

[heady spear]

simple i don't like you and I like everyone, and I never like to admit that I was wrong but I've been so caught up in my job didn't see what's going on but now I know

[waxen panther]

[heady spear]

I'm better sleeping on my own

so if you like the way you look so much maybe you should go and love yourself

[left swift]

Ur better sleeping on ur own

[void void]

@ancient bolt i just placed the order for my mba

[potent fossil]

[void void]

how much space does urs have and do u think it’s enough?

[left swift]

My momma dont like u and she like everyone

[void void]

I got 8GB 256GB Silver, hoping it’s enough

[heady spear]

noman is indeed a man of culture

[spare venture]

hey guise please rate my post on spaghet

[left swift]

Not enough parmesan

3/10

[heady spear]

I'll rate it optimistic .

[spare venture]

pls no

wait is that your account

wtf for some reason i thought that was someone else

[golden gust]

an optimistic attempt but poor outcome

[spare venture]

fak u city

[heady spear]

just for u ill do a second one

[golden gust]

||8 seconds, that's the longest you've lasted so far||

[heady spear]

there

i rated it twice

[spare venture]

wow reported

literally defending you 😭

[heady spear]

I should remove the hyperverse link lmao

[spare venture]

why

[heady spear]

dead shit plugin lol

[spare venture]

wtf waht went wrong

[heady spear]

famous

I'm not doing plugins unless people throw money at me

I'm done with that shit 😛

[spare venture]

yeah that makes sense

[heady spear]

it's way more fun creating resources for devs than server owners anyway

they tend to have somewhat functioning brains

[void void]

2,000 * $15

[heady spear]

which is refreshing

[void void]

how many of those are refunded or charged back any?

[spare venture]

yeah devs who do contract work seem to have much better sanity

[spare venture]

and actually make money

just don't pull a ded and get paid $2/hr

[heady spear]

I'm very happy to do FOSS shit but it's not gonna be plugins

[potent fossil]

all we do there is count the # of downloads and because it's premium we put "purchases" instead of "downloads"

[heady spear]

Cloud is a lot of fun to work on 🤷‍♂️

it's at like 2010 purchases, don't think more than 10 would have been refunded

[spare venture]

people who maintain popular spigot plugins are brave

[heady spear]

plus I actually want to build up my portfolio and plugins look like trash :p

[stiff yarrow]

dooes this make me the bravest person you know

🍞

[spare venture]

maybe

ive never watched the mcmmo support discord but from what i've gathered in paper-help average server owners are some of the dumbest people

[stiff yarrow]

I'm like the patron saint of support

[spare venture]

and most demanding

[stiff yarrow]

from what I've been told

[heady spear]

I fucking hate giving support to owners

i can't stand it

[stiff yarrow]

I'm an angel to people in my discord

👼

[heady spear]

I'm very happy to help developers, which is why Incendo is a thing. I hate every fucking second of working on public plugins though

which is why I've lashed out on people so many times regarding plugins lmao

[spare venture]

what is incendo?

[stiff yarrow]

his other org

[heady spear]

not that you'd know that barty 👀

[spare venture]

ahh

[heady spear]

it's an org I created to get away from IS and also the IS community

[spare venture]

well city i expected structures to be generated by default smh

[heady spear]

PlotSquared is my baby and I've worked on it since 2014, not gonna abandon it now (the fact that it pays my rent helps a lot lol) but I don't want anything to do with the rest of IS tbh

[spare venture]

.g intellectualsites

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Sorry, no results.

[spare venture]

[heady spear]

So Incendo has become a community of just chill people working on cool shit 🤷‍♂️

[spare venture]

only stuff i know it for is FAWE FAVS plot^2 and hyperverse

[heady spear]

HV was never an IS project, I just didn't want to create a new discord

[spare venture]

ah

[heady spear]

so it's under incendo now, in case anyone wants to work on it in the future

[spare venture]

im surprised FAWE is still being worked on tbh

[heady spear]

https://github.com/Incendo ^-^