general

[merry talon]

hdaren't

[golden gust]

Yea, had one back in like early 2010's when I still lived with my birth giver, she stopped paying him so he stopped delivering, which was kinda saddening

[vernal moth]

Generally, a TV is cool if you just wanna sit on the couch and watch a movie, especially with more than yourself, and I also played some games on it with my controller (but still PC games, i have the TV hooked up to my PC as 4th screen)

[golden gust]

I really just wanted a TV so I could get away from my desk

But, the sofa sucks ass here too anyways, so, am not really sure am missing out too much there

[coarse lily]

I have a display with multi HDMI input so I plugged the xbox into that.

I had a projector for big movies if I wanted to sit on the couch/etc.

Which was pretty sweet.

Now if I watch a movie or anything I just throw it up on my big display.

[limber knot]

it's snowing again :o

[twin lagoon]

ew snow

[meager tusk]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

[limber knot]

wtf

snow is epic

[meager tusk]

I agree

[untold copper]

ok so today is the day ima eat nothing artificially mannufactured

this will be interesting

no chocolate :c

or biscuits

cookies

[worn ember]

This course just keeps getting better and better. In the beginning of the semester we didnt even have a final, now we have a final and its a speedrun

half an hour to complete 24 questions lul

[woven otter]

Final any% glitchless

[worn ember]

50% is gud enuf

[woven otter]

At least you dont have to write a coursework

[worn ember]

i had a test of it every week and multiple essays lol

thats why it doesnt make sense to give a final about it

[visual egret]

RCON for velocity wen

[olive garden]

sucks to be you drek

my uni wouldn't allow that :P

[worn ember]

it makes no sense either cuz its the last year of the current course

its changed the year after me

(which already fucks me up for a number of classes i have to retake)

[olive garden]

shouldn't have failed them :dab:

[golden gust]

ye

git gud

skrub

[cedar spade]

gud is not a valid git command

[golden gust]

You just gotta install it

https://github.com/fsufitch/git-gud der

[golden gust]

[worn ember]

Cat, ur brain is so dum it doesnt even know how dum it is

[waxen panther]

pip

[cedar spade]

[visual egret]

looks like they really didnt do any testing when they made the software

[waxen panther]

lol yeah imagine having bugs in your software

they're terrible !

[mossy vessel]

Just windows things

[cedar spade]

\n really need to remove this macro?

[visual egret]

for a software thats only compatible with windows

coughs

[mossy vessel]

Wear a mask and go away.

[simple idol]

I'm struggling more and more with keeping server files organized when collaborating with other people. Our team who takes care of configuring plugins and all that keeps growing (only 5 people really, but still), and it's getting increasingly difficult to keep track of changes and who made them. Sending files around in every direction like this is becoming a bit of a dumpster fire.
So I'm looking for a better way to manage all this and I thought it'd be worth a shot to ask here. I was thinking maybe a private GitHub repo would work, since that would let us use things like PRs and would basically log all changes for us automatically. But that might be a bit needlessly complex too? Seems like that would require a ridiculously long .gitignore to prevent all the userdata and worlds etc. from being tracked, and having to make sure to fetch at the right time not to accidentally break things while the server is running, don't know if that's a vibe.
Not entirely sure how to go about all this... What would be the recommended way to manage server files in a team? How is this usually done (in bigger servers)?

[vernal moth]

Using git to track plugin config is really common

Just gotta gitignore some stuff and be done with it

And yes, you should only pull in changes when the server is stopped

If you got a nice containerized setup, you can easily do rolling updates by starting a new container with the new config tag and let it start and switch your proxy to that once it's healthy

[mossy vessel]

^What I've done in the past. Makes pulling changes much easier than handing files thru 5 hands

[coarse lily]

Even if you don’t do that you want configs in git so they’re tracked, versioned, and backed up.

Also makes it easier to have less people with physical access. They push a change and then it gets deployed.

[simple idol]

Hmm, I don't have any experience with containers at all. That does sound interesting though, definitely want to look into that. Where would you recommend I start with this? I'd like to have some idea of where too look/how to do it properly

[coarse lily]

So there’s no “oops”

[simple idol]

yeah, that's another main reason I'm asking haha
I'm essentially the only one with write access, to prevent ooopsies of course, but that also just makes it tedious for me to deal with everything

[untold copper]

wow this milk stuff tastes great

I should have more of this

[twin lagoon]

[untold copper]

especially with a bit of sugar

[waxen panther]

what

[untold copper]

yes milk with sugar is decent

[waxen panther]

cursed

[mossy vessel]

Milk ewww

[untold copper]

👀

[wide chasm]

Milk is good

[olive marlin]

Milk is good, but makes me sick :/

[limber knot]

bloodstone 👋

[split marlin]

Is it dumb not to use a debugger

I genuinely don't know how to use one

[vernal moth]

In most cases yes

It's easy to learn

I generally just start the server via IJ, and then you just press debug, not run, and add some breakpoints and you done

[candid spindle]

wow

[split marlin]

I see

[candid spindle]

interesting

never done that before in IJ

[olive marlin]

Proxi

How you doing?

[twin lagoon]

bloodstone

[olive marlin]

Michael

[twin lagoon]

[mental meadow]

Michael

[twin lagoon]

i'm scrolling through mcmarket right now and i'm thinking, how much could you earn off of buying some random server setup for $25

i have a feeling you'd be able to make a decent chunk of money by just buying a random server setup and not changing a single fucking thing

[untold copper]

.try

[mental meadow]

I think I know someone who earned quite a bit with that

[limber knot]

https://tryitands.ee/

[twin lagoon]

i kinda want to try it one day just for shits and giggles

[mental meadow]

Wanna invest together Michael

[twin lagoon]

[mossy vessel]

Not like resource dropshipping is a niche.

[twin lagoon]

it doesn't seem impossible tbh

[waxen panther]

no me

[untold copper]

I might shut down my minecraft server :c

[waxen panther]

i want money !

[untold copper]

who doesn't

we destroying the world we live in for money

damn that money shit

[waxen panther]

ok mr milk and sugar

[mental meadow]

brocc how are u today?

[waxen panther]

i am quite fine

[mental meadow]

uwu

[waxen panther]

woke up at a reasonable time so thats something ^^, how are you

[mental meadow]

actually quite good 😮 have to go outside now which is a bit annoying but other than that i'm

[waxen panther]

going outside is pretty annoying

[untold copper]

11 am

define "reasonable time"

[waxen panther]

9am

[mossy vessel]

eppicccc

[untold copper]

DAMN SON

Nice

[warm anchor]

Snoopa ain’t school started

[golden gust]

maybe it has

maybe it hasn't

who the fuck knows with this government

[waxen panther]

snoopa isnt british dumdum

[mossy vessel]

Lockdown be like

[warm anchor]

Snoopa is American right?

High school starts on yesterday

[golden gust]

god knows, I mean, applies to us government too, sooo

[warm anchor]

Wait middle school *

Lmao

[waxen panther]

i dont think he's american

[warm anchor]

@untold copper We demand answers

[mossy vessel]

eeee

I'm genuinely surprised if my next exams will be online only lol

[warm anchor]

Inb4 he’s in zoom class

[mossy vessel]

Damn this extended lockdown is bleh

Went shopping groceries earlier and almost nobody wore their masks appropriately smh

[warm anchor]

No good

[meager tusk]

[mossy vessel]

Yeah lol, that drives me crazy

[warm anchor]

[worn ember]

All my finals are on campus except one

The computer law speedrun is online

[olive marlin]

@warm anchor isn't he Indian? Pretty sure saw him post some scrots with Indian rupies.

Looks like it ^^

[warm anchor]

Nice detective work so it’s early afternoon for him

Or he could be doing what most kid do

Changing steam currency for cheaper games

[olive marlin]

Same with RAM?

[untold copper]

first off, im in senior school

second

its winter vacationn

third - imagine being american

[warm anchor]

What’s senior school

[untold copper]

9-10th grade

[warm anchor]

Oh

It’s called high school here

Well that’s between middle and high

[vernal moth]

It's called gymnasium here

Unless you dum

Then it's called Hauptschule

[void void]

🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪

x3

[warm anchor]

Those word sounds and look fancy

Must be German

[vernal moth]

(we separate good from dum ppl over here)

[void void]

Don't forget Realschule

[untold copper]

same

[olive marlin]

We had gymnasium here, but they removed it recently xD

[untold copper]

we separate them based on sections

section A - smart kids

section M - not so smart kids

[warm anchor]

“Meh kid can’t be dumb. Dis system rigged” - Karen

[mossy vessel]

Yes, stupid names for a stupid system

runs

[untold copper]

lol

[warm anchor]

Lol

[waxen panther]

[olive marlin]

So we now have 8 year primary school instead of 6, and 4-5 years high school instead of 3-4.

[untold copper]

we just gots grade

1st - 12th

[warm anchor]

[untold copper]

and a couple years pre school before that

[waxen panther]

eternity why are half the emotes renamed it's throwing me off 😭

[void void]

We have plently of that here. Up to the point where we in Germany abolished the system of limiting where kids can go after elementary school.
But after all nothing has changed. 99% of the "my kid belongs with the smart kids" just drop one or two levels lower after 1-2 years

[untold copper]

that is just sad man

[pale hinge]

hi, i have a qestion. i have a 1.16.4 survival server on a vps with an i9 9900k 4cores, 8gbram. i followed the optimization tutorial. very few mobs, no hoppers. i have like 15 tps when i have 30 players. is it normal? pls tag me if you answer 🙏

[void void]

What/Why?

[waxen panther]

post a timings in #paper-help @pale hinge

[void void]

VPS
Yes it is

[waxen panther]

but it's probably the vps part

yea

[pale hinge]

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=06600566be7c4a67921f9872cdbe5895

[warm anchor]

I agree that kids developments are varies person to person so it make sense to make school cater to their individual needs but hey I am seem to be on minority

[void void]

#paper-help

[true canyon]

9900ks have more than four cores. So I conclude you're on a shared host. Do you get those cores fully dedicated to you, or are those shared?

[pale hinge]

so you think i9 9900k can handle it better on a dedicated server?

[void void]

name: Windows Server 2012 R2
version: 6.3
jvmversion: 1.8.0_271
I can't even...

[waxen panther]

you'll be getting a real 9900k then so yes lol

[void void]

-Xms1G -Xmx4G

[waxen panther]

but go to paper-help

[warm anchor]

@waxen panther some staff suggest to change “twitch-like” emojis to name up front so new members can find them first but all other OG one still start with rieXXX

[waxen panther]

#general is for shitposting

[pale hinge]

they say yes but i dont trust them so much. when i complain they say they increase my cpu power and still 4 cores so maybe they share my cores?

[void void]

Works great in all countries that do it.
The biggest critisim here is that we put them into categories when it's much more fine grained. So the solution is to provide each class in 3 levels and kids can chose

[waxen panther]

heart rie is hard 😭

[warm anchor]

[void void]

Yes they do. Else they couldn't rent you a 9900k for like 10 bucks a month

Even if they offer you dedicated cores a VPS is always bad because you have the virtualization layer

[warm anchor]

If you are paying $10 a month that’s 100% shared lol

[void void]

And with memory and CPU heavy appliations that is especially noticable

[limber knot]

I pay 12 euro for a vps with dedicated resources, thats not shared

[pale hinge]

yes its shared. whats the best offer for a dedicated server to handle around 50 players on 20 tps (1.16) ?

[void void]

Wanna bet?

[mossy vessel]

Imagine not declaring whether you buy shared garbage or dedicated garbage... oh right...

[limber knot]

I just dont need a full server, so I take a part of it

sure go a head and bet

[warm anchor]

50 concurrent player

[pale hinge]

yes concurrent

[limber knot]

its o ne of the old ones from here https://www.netcup.de/vserver/

[pale hinge]

do you have any tps issues and how many concurrent players u have? @vernal moth

[warm anchor]

you definably want a dedi at least i7 or up if you want any reasonable setting. You can get one for like $80-100

[void void]

Go for a SoYouStart machine

[mossy vessel]

You don't want to host mc stuff on a VPS lol

[void void]

Decent prices, great service and quality

And get a dedicated root. Yes

[limber knot]

I havent hosted a server absolute ages

[warm anchor]

He’s gonna need it. I don’t know any share host that can survive 50 players without it being 10 tps

[pale hinge]

from 40 euros 😢

[limber knot]

last time I hosted a server, it was actually sponsored by nitrado, so theres that 😂

nitrado was still cool back then

[mossy vessel]

I haven't touched shared hosting since 2014

Dedicated ftw

[waxen panther]

if you have 50 concurrent players you should be able to afford 40 euros a month :p

[warm anchor]

This

[mossy vessel]

Or 2015 when I migrated? Can't remember

[limber knot]

I just dont wanna spend 60 euro when I only need performance for 15 euro

[pale hinge]

my players are from turkey so they pay by turkish liras for vip packages 😄

[void void]

50 players will cost you money. You absolutely won't be able to go below 1€ per player

[pale hinge]

1€ = 10 TRY

[warm anchor]

So it’s comes down to you

[pale hinge]

😦

haha

[void void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warm anchor]

Do you want quality server

Or do you want cheap

[limber knot]

you absolutely can host for cheaper than 1 euro per player, lol

[warm anchor]

You can’t get both lol

[void void]

Not with decent performance

[mossy vessel]

Charge your players up front on join

[warm anchor]

I mean yeah you can get from lowest tier stuff and just make view distance 3

It will run

[limber knot]

on a good dedicated server you can host 200 players on modern versions

[vernal moth]

urg I hate my KVM switch

the button to switch is kinda broken

[true canyon]

i7-7700 can be had for 50 per month, i9-9900k pushes you into the 70s at least. I remember the good ol' days a decade ago hosting on way less powerful servers for way more.

[quasi valley]

but also way less, since the server didn't have any features™️

or I guess everything was new then

[warm anchor]

That’s what I don’t get when people bitch about how much better 1.8 runs

[void void]

I was talking about servers where players aren't really bunched up.

But yeah depending on what kind of server you run you can go really cheap

[mossy vessel]

1.8 runs on my toaster what you want???

[warm anchor]

Like for sure but 1.8 is missing like 80% of the latest feature

[void void]

According to the official system requirements that isn't possible 😛 :

Minecraft will not run on a toaster (despite some actually using Java), your car (feel free to prove us wrong, though), Windows RT tablets or a Chromebook.

Source: https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360035131371-Minecraft-Java-Edition-system-requirements-

[mossy vessel]

My car actually runs Java wtf

I've no clue where it's being used but apparently it does lmao

[void void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mossy vessel]

But luckily my car does not run on java :P

[void void]

I just found this gem today and I love it. Can't stop sharing it

[vernal moth]

minecraft does run in cars

smh

[true canyon]

Gotta maintain the billion devices somehow

[vernal moth]

and iirc musky musk wanted to bring it officially to teslas

[golden gust]

java embedded afaik can run on really light hardware

[vernal moth]

modern cars arent light hardware

java runs on lego mindstorms with 32kb ram or smth

[golden gust]

Well, yea, but it's more the fact that you can 😮

[void void]

No reflections though 😠

[golden gust]

Saying that, https://www.automotivelinux.org/about/members/

jesus

[vernal moth]

oh sorry, the nxt mindstorm had 64kb ram and 256kb flash

[foggy elbow]

Hello,

Does GraalVM EE works on paper?

I'm not sure but I think someone said me it didn't work (3 months ago)

[cunning raft]

maybe, it is not recommended however

[foggy elbow]

you recommand just java ? not GraalVM

[waxen panther]

what do you want to use graal for

[cunning raft]

^

[foggy elbow]

Performances/stability

[cunning raft]

iirc the perf isn't that different

hotspot is still recommended

[olive garden]

*hotspot vm

[waxen panther]

iirc graal has slightly worse performance, that was awhile ago though

but yeah you're not going to get any substantial benefits

only benefits are the js stuff but thats still p monkas

[foggy elbow]

and benefits of hotspot ?

[next frost]

at the end of the day, you can just try and see :p

[wild escarp]

its the only officially supported

[next frost]

hotspot is very stable and the commonly used vm

[mossy vessel]

The people using graal not just for the laughs I can count at one hand.
Everyone else gave up cuz nobody here uses it in prod.

[foggy elbow]

ohh yes the hotspot are the version constantly supported ?

[cunning raft]

yeah its the default

[foggy elbow]

(I don't really know anything about java etc)

[cunning raft]

just use hotspot with aikar's flags

[foggy elbow]

I'm just a basic server maker x)

[cunning raft]

.g aikar's flags

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://aikar.co/2018/07/02/tuning-the-jvm-g1gc-garbage-collector-flags-for-minecraft/

[cunning raft]

see that ^

[next frost]

just stick to hotspot then, you can't be very wrong with that

[foggy elbow]

next hotspot will be java 17 right ?

[waxen panther]

wat

[wild escarp]

no it will be 16

lol

[foggy elbow]

I'm speaking about the version that will get longer support *

[mossy vessel]

17 it is

[foggy elbow]

there is java 8, java 11

[olive garden]

Paper Java 8 support ends when MC 1.17 arrives

So go with java 11, hotspot vm

[visual egret]

if you are confused about aikars flags: https://startmc.sh/

[mossy vessel]

But 11 is the """best""" LTS you want to go for now.

[visual egret]

^

[foggy elbow]

of yessss it's LTS *

[olive garden]

if you can't copy paste Aikar's flags maybe you shouldn't have a server

[foggy elbow]

yeah that's why my configurator said to stay on java 11

[vernal moth]

anybody have experience with including payment processors like paypal for payment?

[slim nymph]

sure 😛

[vernal moth]

is braintree nice?

[slim nymph]

braintree sounds like a direct ACH service

those kind of things are for bigger businesses trying to cut out some of the middleman fees

and typically requires PCI compliance

PayPal and now Stripe have the benefit of paying on their infra and your just getting API notifications

https://developer.paypal.com/docs/api-basics/notifications/ipn/IPNIntro/

[vernal moth]

ah IPN was the word I was searching for

[slim nymph]

its a simple system, just gotta validate the IPN isnt spoofed by validating with paypal, and any security you need to make sure people paid the full price for the product

[edgy night]

is there any way to make spreadplayers async

[slim nymph]

sure, .getChunkAtAsync

do you mean in Essentials?

[vernal moth]

its a vanilla command iirc

[slim nymph]

or wait thats a vanilla command now isnt it

[void void]

Yes it is

Since 1.7 😛

[next frost]

time flies

[chrome quest]

Is there a way for me to disable endermen from picking up stuff?

[olive marlin]

You can get a datapack to remove tags from blocks that ender an pickup.

It doesn't run commands, so it's fine.

I think VT has such datapack available?

.g vanilla tweaks datapacks

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://vanillatweaks.net/picker/datapacks/

[chrome quest]

Isn’t datapacks discouraged?

[olive marlin]

They are discouraged if they run commands every tick.

But there's a lot of things that are more perfomant as datapacks (like modifying loot tables etc).

Last time I checked it, this datapack just removed #enderman_holdable (or whatever the tag is) from blocks.

[vernal moth]

paypal docs are so funny

"After you create your initial listener, you can verify that the listener's "verified" code works as expected. To do that, copy the code that runs if PayPal's response is VERIFIED to the part of your listener that runs if a response is INVALID. "

hey paypal this is how I test my applications all the time

[visual egret]

UH OH

i messed up

i just introduced my brother to 1.8 pvp

i can hear him screaming downstairs

[spare venture]

is he even younger than you

[void void]

The fact that it is 1.8 is so much worse than anything

I now hate you with a burning passion

[warm anchor]

Is your brother discord tos friendly

[visual egret]

no

[void void]

xD

[mossy vessel]

Neither are them

[visual egret]

he is younger

[warm anchor]

Lol

[visual egret]

its not my fault that he keeps on saying "i wanna play bedwars" like every 5 seconds while i try to do homework

[spare venture]

yes it is

[visual egret]

i dont even play it that often

[waxen panther]

[warm anchor]

Borccolai should take in Oskar as his own little brother

[spare venture]

ah nothing quite like opening a plugin and seeing this

[visual egret]

wtf

[visual egret]

might as well commit die

money

[chrome quest]

Is there an organised place where I can see all the forks of paper?

[visual egret]

well

[mossy vessel]

The only notable forks are Tunity and Purpur.

[visual egret]

^

[mossy vessel]

Everything else 🚮

[chrome quest]

Wasn’t there one that was a fork of paper and forge?

[olive marlin]

Mini working on PayPal integration for hangar?

[vernal moth]

noooooooo? 😄

https://i.imgur.com/XYgX573.png

[visual egret]

heh

[mossy vessel]

Am I the only one being triggered about the borders not being aligned?

[vernal moth]

fixed 😄

https://i.imgur.com/2DFnEv9.png

[warm anchor]

That’s on purpose

[mossy vessel]

Gr8

[visual egret]

sponge, but i dont think its a fork of paper

[sand epoch]

lecturer making them youtube thumbnail faces

[visual egret]

or is it

[wraith trail]

theres magma or something

[quasi valley]

lol

[wraith trail]

but it has a tonne of issues

Sponge is not a fork of paper, nor does it support bukkit. Only sponge + forge

[mossy vessel]

Any other integration planned besides PP?

[chrome quest]

Would magma work if I wanted to run a ftb mod pack?

[vernal moth]

this is just a poc if I even like this

[mossy vessel]

BTC wen

[chrome quest]

?

[visual egret]

bitcoin payment wen

[vernal moth]

no payment

[mossy vessel]

donation

[visual egret]

bitcoin donation wen

[vernal moth]

I just wanna make hangar track donations (internally and externally), so you can use it to do perks

[visual egret]

mini loves data

[warm anchor]

Nice

[vernal moth]

if you wanna have btc support, you can handle that yourself, and inform hangar via a webhook

[warm anchor]

I like the donation rank

[waxen panther]

sounds wholesome

[warm anchor]

Are you guys gonna hook it up to discord api to assign rank here? Lol for flexing

[visual egret]

hmm that sounds cool

[slim nymph]

yeah that was my idea mini, let hangar have a way to record things, but no restricting downloads on it

[warm anchor]

I see many twitch streamer server does that

[olive marlin]

I think that's for donating for resource.

[visual egret]

grammar

[olive marlin]

So not to Paper.

[warm anchor]

Oh

I thought it was for everything which includes paper

[mossy vessel]

You shouldn't donate just for a role lol

[olive marlin]

Though maybe there will be Paper donation?

You can donate your time for Paper role, cash is not accepted :p

[warm anchor]

Yeah but as a driving force, the model works. Not saying it’s good

[vernal moth]

I also am thinking about multiple tiers of "user harassment". first would be no donation link visible. then donation link in the sidebar. maybe on updates, and highest tier would be, on download "the author would like to ask you for a donation for his work" modal or smth.

[mossy vessel]

For kids being aged 14, maybe.

[vernal moth]

but as repeated a bazillion times, hangar will not paywall downloads

urg fernflower

ascii 61 is what char?

=

right

make sense

[visual egret]

hangar seems like a really good place for plugin quality

since its new and paper

does cat know that he can do this?

[limpid comet]

wow oskar ur so smart

[visual egret]

i know

bluely i will show of the power of my quantum (the superior one obviously) later

[limpid comet]

nah im g

[peak ginkgo]

On the third day god said https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/a62238a9985df73bddfff2f31d069354f13c2369

[visual egret]

lol

[woven otter]

@quasi valley hello bananaface

[quasi valley]

no u

[woven otter]

u

[void void]

is anyone really good with running paper under a docker instance?

[vernal moth]

whatts your problem?

[void void]

i had my friend build me a docker container where i can pass screen commands through it

it was working when i built it off the command line but iwanted everything off a .yml file

ugh it's a little complicated actually

[void void]

docker
screen
Pick one

[vernal moth]

why would you use screen in docker?

[void void]

i'm using borg to do my backups

so i can pass in commands for the borg backup

like save off

Only run the server in the container

You can easily send commands in

wait can i show you what's going on?

And run borg from your host

That's what volumes are for

let me get a paste bin going on

its like 10 lines it snot big

just confusing me

[spiral robin]

@void void

[void void]

Hi. My main is here as well btw

[frank crescent]

Sup

[spiral robin]

[void void]

OMG. It's clapping to the beat
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ysxLAMwNBy4&list=RDAMVMuD6Qzt1vjGM

xD

I'm so done 😂

[spare venture]

wow that guy is still making music

[void void]

He even did a tour in 2019

okay so here's my YAML

https://pastebin.com/9E4jfXKa

and here's my backup.sh

[spare venture]

the beat on a lot of the songs is really good but the anime/hentai themes and lyrics are just so out there

[void void]

https://pastebin.com/FNM3jABd

wait i should go in paper-help?

Ok. What about it?

[spare venture]

yes

[void void]

Like I don't even see how that relates to what you're asking

[spare venture]

probably asking what he did wrong

[olive marlin]

@void void if you start the container with TTY attached, you can attach to it later and run any command.

[twin lagoon]

bloodstone

[olive marlin]

Or you can get rcon-cli in the container and use it to execute commands through rcon.

[twin lagoon]

bloodstone > brainstone

[olive marlin]

Michale

[spare venture]

simp

[void void]

;-;

[twin lagoon]

[oak abyss]

Yo

[mental meadow]

depens on which brainstone

I know 2 now

[oak abyss]

Some dude found a

This dude duped on my server

Do you guys have the slightest idea if this relates

[void void]

I'm the same BrainStone

This is just my work account

[frank crescent]

Confirmed

[mental meadow]

confusing

but okay

[slim nymph]

@oak abyss update, you are outdated, thats fixed

[mental meadow]

then I know both of you as one 😄

[void void]

👍

[oak abyss]

It was a paper issue?

ok thanks

[slim nymph]

no, vanilla

but paper patched it

[oak abyss]

wait

git-Paper-215

thats outdateD?

1.16.3

[slim nymph]

yes... its not supported

[twin lagoon]

1.16.3 is outdated, 215 is outdated

[spare venture]

lol

[twin lagoon]

what more do you want to know

[oak abyss]

just confirming calm your man tits

[spare venture]

.g 1.16.4 release date

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Java_Edition_1.16.4

[oak abyss]

yes i know that 1.16.4 is out lol

[peak ginkgo]

So why ask

[spare venture]

you're more than 2 months out of date

[oak abyss]

confirmed doesnt hurt...

confirming

[spare venture]

you asked if 1.16.3 was outdated

yes, it is

by over 2 months

[oak abyss]

I asked if my paper version was outdated for 1.16.3

[woven otter]

explorer keeps freezing when I try to access some sd card. seems like it's dying. is there any way to recover data from it

[oak abyss]

was it patched in a vanilla update?

[spare venture]

no

[peak ginkgo]

update, you are outdated, thats fixed

you were already,,, told

[spare venture]

paper hasn't released an update on 1.16.3 in 2 months, i assume

[void void]

You could pull an image

[warm anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[spare venture]

so yes, you are very outdated

[void void]

An image of the SD card

That way you have all data on it saved

[spare venture]

that's like being on 1.8 and saying aM i oUtDaTeDD??!?

[peak ginkgo]

literally /version

[void void]

Depending on the program you'll even get an .iso file which means you can easily mount it

[spiral robin]

dejay

[spare venture]

😄

[peak ginkgo]

aberdeener

Purpur detected

[mental meadow]

Yeah, I did that a few weeks ago, use DDRescue to pull an image and use that

[spare venture]

yes, I updated to the latest version in preparation for my server release today 🙂

[woven otter]

thanks ill try that

[mental meadow]

Saved almost all pictures except for a few which were corrupted, but better than expected for a SD card with hardware failure

but it took 28 hours to calculate lol

[void void]

Oh yeah. It's gonna take time. The sooner you do it the better

[spiral robin]

auwuara 🥺

[mental meadow]

uwu

[twin lagoon]

uwu

[void void]

Pink overload

[worn ember]

the weebs are coming

[stiff yarrow]

low key considering dropping 1.13.2 support but there's like 50 people using it

[worn ember]

yeet the people

[spiral robin]

michael

[void void]

For what?

[stiff yarrow]

.7% of servers run 1.13.2

for my plugins

[void void]

I mean dropping support where

[zealous wedge]

why do people still run that version lol

[void void]

I see

The mysteries of people ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stiff yarrow]

1.12.2 has a 9% share

[worn ember]

odd, no one is using rtp on 1.13.2 lol

[twin lagoon]

do any of those pay

[zealous wedge]

afaict the only versions that people really stay on are 1.8.8, 1.12.2, and latest

[void void]

Nothing worthwhile on that version

[worn ember]

yeah

[void void]

Like 1.12 is as popular because of Forge

[worn ember]

an it was a lot faster too

[void void]

1.7 also Forge and 1.8 because PvP

[stiff yarrow]

for mcMMO specifically its literally 50 servers on 1.13.2, which is a funny coincidence because I threw out 50 earlier as a joke

[worn ember]

yeah i dont even bother supporting 1.8

[stiff yarrow]

for some reason I got 1000 servers of mcMMO on 1.16.3

did they not notice 1.16.4 coming out

[warm anchor]

[mental meadow]

we only updated to .4 yesterday

[worn ember]

tbh i never updated to 1.16.4 either, i'm still on .3 for all my testing lol

[stiff yarrow]

464 servers on 1.16.1 for mcMMO

lowkey blaming hosts on this but idk

[worn ember]

[stiff yarrow]

I just assume sane people would upgrade their servers to latest

[worn ember]

maybe some just dont care

[spiral robin]

ded lol

[twin lagoon]

@mental meadow

[sand epoch]

nearly half of of servers using AAC are on 1.8.8 apparently

😐

[worn ember]

no surprise there

[stiff yarrow]

I don't have 1.8 data because I don't support it

[mental meadow]

[worn ember]

i could probably make it 1.8 compatible if i wanted to

just dont care really

[stiff yarrow]

I have 1.8/1.12 support planned but I don't even know if its worth the extra sales at this point

[worn ember]

meh

[stiff yarrow]

a year ago 1.12 was a way larger chunk of servers

its shrunk

[worn ember]

i'ma just be glad when i can start pushing for j11

[void void]

.java11

[limber knot]

Follow the guides for how to update to Java 11 here: https://gist.github.com/Proximyst/67615353e2575a71faaff3f7ae9cc2b4

[woven otter]

Whats next lts after 11

[waxen panther]

17

[robust tiger]

17 is the next lts

[mighty storm]

Next September I believe

This*

[warm anchor]

your pfp is triggering that skill

[robust tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-cat-creepy-cat-cat-zoom-kitty-gif-12199043

[potent fossil]

where has michale been

[brave radish]

forgetting for the moment that paper uses work from other open source projects, and pretending it's just based off of mojang's server, would it be legal for you to sell paperclip?

[spiral robin]

@potent fossil

[potent fossil]

aber

[minor badge]

paperclip is 100% free as in libre software

anyone would be allowed to redistribute it, even with a fee

[zealous wedge]

it's already legal to sell paperclip lol

[brave radish]

my only question was because technically the paper patch files are based off of mojang's code

not paperclip itself

[visual egret]

i dont think so

or is it lol

[zealous wedge]

you can sell paper

it's just kinda pointless because paper as a whole has be gpl/lgpl

[brave radish]

then why isn't there a donate button? i bet a lot of people would

[zealous wedge]

that's an explicit choice made by the paper team

once money gets involved the dynamic changes

[stiff yarrow]

there used to be one

don't know where it went

to be fair the old dono button was super well hidden

[zealous wedge]

what they do now is they'll link the PayPal's of people who update paper to new MC versions

[stiff yarrow]

I had to search pretty hard to find it

[brave radish]

i suppose yeah even if it were just donations it'd be rude to just like shut down the project or something if people donated for it

[worn ember]

i just donated to z cuz he paid for the infrastructure at the time

[stiff yarrow]

reminder to donate to people who make the software you use and enjoy ❤️

[brave radish]

plus then ppl who donate a lot would want support for old versions and stuff

[worn ember]

paper premium wen

[waxen panther]

reminder to donate to proxi

[minor badge]

we don't have it because there's very little costs involved with paper, and there's no ethical way for us to accept the money as an organisation

[stiff yarrow]

could do an automated split if its possible to set it up

[worn ember]

PPP,paper pay pal

[minor badge]

it isn't, really

[void void]

I always make it clear that donating doesn't mean I'll bend over backwards

At best it means getting slightly prefferential treatment

[zealous wedge]

it kinda feels like someone core team should write a brief statement, since this keeps getting asked

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge

[brave radish]

well being as it's free i was thinking the big contributers could just keep the money but yeah direct paypal would make more sense

[minor badge]

[wide chasm]

A service that could automatically split donations among multiple people would be nice to exist

[stiff yarrow]

time to make a start up boys

[worn ember]

dont dontate to mini, he'll just use it to kill off his braincells with alcohol

[minor badge]

@brave radish well how does one distribute this to the "big contributors" and where does the line go?

[waxen panther]

ur jealous

[brave radish]

@twin lagoon post kitties 🙂

[worn ember]

i'm not that petty lol

[waxen panther]

sus

[brave radish]

idk that's why I said direct paypal makes more sense

[stiff yarrow]

you would need a weighted system that would be determined via paper contributors mutual agreement I guess

probably not worth bothering with

[minor badge]

lots of effort for no real gain tbh

[stiff yarrow]

yeah

donations in open source tumbleweed

[potent fossil]

hey look it's michale

[minor badge]

it's not like we're gonna get salaries from this lol

[wide chasm]

I mean, getting money might incentivise some people to make more contributions

[worn ember]

could just have a paper paypal account you can use to pay for infrastructure?

[zealous wedge]

some ppl (proxi) already have jobs lol

[minor badge]

money usually makes contributions rotten from what i've seen tbh

i also can't accept money from paper because of that very job, zml :-)

[zealous wedge]

o fun

[brave radish]

oof

[worn ember]

you cant get donations? what?

[vernal moth]

I would like an open collective style "pay money into this open account", and then we would use that money for hosting, but also for like, sending out stickers to contributors, or maybe even flying out ppl to minecon or smth

[zealous wedge]

weird and controlling jobs

[warm anchor]

You can pay Proximyst with cute anime girl pic

[wide chasm]

Open collective is nice

[brave radish]

that'd be nice. Send everyone who makes x+ contributions to minecon lol

[vernal moth]

in other news, I just found out that paypal has a completely separate sandbox env, where you can just play with money

https://i.imgur.com/BxPnjgs.png

[minor badge]

I think it's alright, zml

[twin lagoon]

yes

[worn ember]

lol i loved to mess with that

just give yourself 20mil

[zealous wedge]

eh I think a company should have no ability to control what you do off the clock

[spare venture]

pretty neat mini

[minor badge]

They control only what I let them control, though

[brave radish]

did mini just actually post the last four digits of his credit card number or are those fake too? lol

[spare venture]

https://i.gyazo.com/56e9e428177b78c09a842803b4e4e68d.mp4

oops

[wide chasm]

Those are fake

[zealous wedge]

they also are responsible for your salary

[quasi valley]

ah yes, mini has "The Bank Card"

[minor badge]

I'm not stuck in the "This is the only job I can get" situation, so had it been too bad, I wouldn't have accepted it

[vernal moth]

am rich, lol

https://i.imgur.com/99F9qyT.png

[brave radish]

don't need any donations no more, mini's got it :)

[worn ember]

lots of beer

[potent fossil]

still not worth as much as apple

[minor badge]

on another note, sense8 is a hell of a series

[potent fossil]

runs

[vernal moth]

I have tomorrow off work, am totally gonna play with this shit

sense8 is great, yeah

[worn ember]

paypals api is yuck to work with

[vernal moth]

the IPN stuff was ok

[worn ember]

then again, been a few years since i used it

might have improved

[vernal moth]

next is implementing the donation button I guess

[formal turret]

lol i couldn't figure out how to use it a year ago

[worn ember]

most annoying part is switching out real accounts for the sandbox ones

[formal turret]

if I used java i might've been able to figure out how to use it, but at the time i was using python and i'm not as familiar with python

[worn ember]

i did it in js lul

[unkempt drift]

oh on another note, Elon Musk probably has the highest net worth now.

[worn ember]

second highest

[unkempt drift]

nope

not anymore

he passed bezos today

https://apple.news/ASXJlSQL7Spe2ktv6ql89zw

[vernal moth]

stocks go brrrr

[spare venture]

eat the rich

[vernal moth]

thats the thing tho

[spare venture]

nice the worlds 500 richest people got 1.8 trillion richer last year

[vernal moth]

musk has no assets, just shares

is he really rich?

[unkempt drift]

yeah, he has testified in court that he has like no money

[spare venture]

his net worth says so

[vernal moth]

if the stock market decide to not like tesla anymore, hes not rich anymore

his net worth is just stock

[spare venture]

he can get a loan from any bank of any amount with no strings attached

[vernal moth]

and back it back how?

[spare venture]

he can liquidate stock

[vernal moth]

if tesla would tank, he would have no money

[spare venture]

uh sell stock?

he can sell stock..

[unkempt drift]

CEOs selling stock is wayyyyy complicated

[spare venture]

set up a schedule to sell X stock at regular intervals and it won't have any impact on the stock price

[unkempt drift]

first of all, it means they have less control of the company, which isnt always a good thing

[spare venture]

and use that schedule as the means to pay off the loan

anyway eat the rich

[slim nymph]

yes it is 😛

[brave radish]

what's up with all the green people emojis?

[heavy jetty]

regardless of how you schedule it selling stock also decreases its value, albeit not that much depending on quantity

[slim nymph]

just now watching it?

[minor badge]

yeah

[unkempt drift]

also, stock prices rising is not "making money" in the same way a salary is. that money didnt come from anywhere else, it didn't get taken away from anything else

its literal wealth creation

[spare venture]

he has 34 million shares at $800 each. he can sell a few

[vernal moth]

its literally made up

eat the rich, yes, but eat the stock markets first

they can all burn in hell

they serve no value for humanity

[mellow mulch]

so this is the steak server

[slim nymph]

yes, i just had steak for lunch

[unkempt drift]

you dont think the stock market has value?

[spare venture]

nothing like going from $67/share to $800/share in a year

[mellow mulch]

but did you save some for me

[spare venture]

tesla is such a massive bubble, wonder when it'll pop

[vernal moth]

this was my lunch

[slim nymph]

um parts on cartilage fat

[mellow mulch]

you dont eat the fat from steak?

[slim nymph]

i eat the fat, not cartilage lol

[vernal moth]

wait, you dont think tesla is worth more then VW? 😮

[heavy jetty]

THAT LOOKS SO TASTY

[vernal moth]

blasphemy

[spare venture]

tesla's stock pricing over the past year is just ridiculous

[mellow mulch]

my lunch was a totino's party pizza

[spare venture]

their P/E ratio is 1,578.10

i thought amazon's was high at 93.62

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/co_tesla/status/1337403374400983040

Tesla Owners Mexico 🇲🇽 (@co_tesla)

If you haven’t seen this video yet, then check it out 🤯 @elonmusk https://t.co/vWmXYkKXdk

Retweets

3588

Likes

25719

▶ Play video

Twitter · Dec 11, 2020, 2:26 PM

this vid shows it

the first years are fine

then smth seems very wrong

[spare venture]

yeah it's worth more than the rest of the top auto makers combined

its driven by so much speculation nonsense

[unkempt drift]

see, you are comparing tesla to auto makers, tesla is more like a tech company that makes cars

rather than a car maker that has tech

[spare venture]

they haven't done shit that would make their stock rise that much

it's a bubble

[vernal moth]

their products are cars, those other companys have cars as their product, seems like a fair comparison, no?

[unkempt drift]

stocks are never based on what companies have done

[vernal moth]

sure, mentality is different, but they all building cars

[unkempt drift]

stocks are always about the future

[vernal moth]

tesla doesnt have a future where its the only car maker

which is what stock markets seem to believe

[spare venture]

okay but there's no basis for why the price is skyrocketing

[vernal moth]

heck, its unsure if tesla has a future as a mainstream car maker

[left swift]

Price is going up cuz ppl are buying it

[spare venture]

one little scare and that bubble pops so fast

[formal turret]

tesla bringing software as a service to cars

[vernal moth]

they dont really have a plan how to compete with the other companies (once they woken the fuck up)

teslas only advantage is that they were the first. they created this market

[spare venture]

short tesla

[vernal moth]

they dont own it tho

[unkempt drift]

they have a hell of an advantage in it now tho

[vernal moth]

but its not getting bigger

you said we talking about the future

[spare venture]

P/E ratio of 1500 is insane

[unkempt drift]

and they'll still have the advantage for several years

that is the future

[spare venture]

zoom has a P/E of 441 and i thought that was high

[vernal moth]

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/custom/top-10-used-evs.JPG

oct last year

[spare venture]

wonder what is driving all of this tesla hype all of the sudden

[vernal moth]

again, tesla doesnt own this market

(oct last year US that is)

I think the leaf is also older than tesla?

when was the first real tesla on the road?

[left swift]

David dobrik

[vernal moth]

model s was 2012

leaf was 2010

[mossy vessel]

Damn, I really hope to get my hands at a Tesla in the future ngl

[vernal moth]

teslas are cool

but, compared to german cars, the quality just isnt there

[mossy vessel]

I mean, currently I have no car, my neighbor is sharing his with me

[vernal moth]

my dad has a leaf, quality wise its much nicer than the model 3 I drove with

but, their entertainment system and app suck

my dad wrote his own control thingy pretty much and uses android auto

[mossy vessel]

I handed in my last one early last year and didn't renew the leasing just for it to stand at home.

[vernal moth]

I brought a small city car, toyota aygo. I use it like twice a week

[shell patio]

hi guys

whats up

[vernal moth]

but, I drive >10.000km a year, so it wasnt worth to go carsharing

[shell patio]

can anyone help me with obsidian breaker plugin

?

[mossy vessel]

Damn, reminds me of my first car

An old Nissan Juke from like 2010

[tame pendant]

Nobody knows what that plugin is because it's not 1.16 updated and it's premium. Ask in the discussion page of the spigot resource which I linked to you in #paper-help

[vernal moth]

thats not a small car, lol

[twin lagoon]

@mossy vessel

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon

[vernal moth]

my car is small

like, its 3.4m long

[visual egret]

Does anyone know some kind of moddable server for the new combat updates?

[vernal moth]

fabric

I think they released for it

[mossy vessel]

Compared to my last one it felt like a tin can

[visual egret]

is there anything that doesent require client side mods though?

or is it just fabric

[vernal moth]

fabric doesnt require client side mods

[visual egret]

well

it requires fabric

[vernal moth]

depending on what you do

no it doesnt

[visual egret]

oh yeah it doesent lol

sorry

[vernal moth]

as long as you dont add new blocks and shit and dont touch the protocol, you can just only mod the server

[mossy vessel]

But yeah, having something own is definitely <3
Can't steal this old man's car all day long

Or can I? We'll never know

[vernal moth]

I only really use my car to go to my parents once a week and to go to friends outside of the city

the rest I do by foot mostly

or by tram

[mossy vessel]

My essential for shopping (groceries)

[vernal moth]

yeah, I just walk

lol

I got 3 rewe within 5 minutes

[zealous wedge]

groceries is more limited when walking

like if you buy a 10kg bag of flour you cant walk with much else

[mossy vessel]

My near one has shut down delivery recently and I tend to only go shopping every second week

[vernal moth]

I dont buy a bag of 10kg flour tho

I go for the 1kg bag

[mossy vessel]

Or I've become too lazy to walk

[zealous wedge]

that's so tiny

[vernal moth]

and I only buy as much as I can fit in one bag, if I need more, I can go next day

[zealous wedge]

me n my roommate would go through that in a day

[vernal moth]

what ya doing with all the flour? lol

[zealous wedge]

baking lol

[vernal moth]

yeah I wouldnt say thats normal to use that muhc flour

[zealous wedge]

my roommate makes our own bread, everything else we bake

[vernal moth]

as long as you dont run a bakery

[zealous wedge]

vanilla has a chat Spam filter

[spiral robin]

@cosmic raft

[warm anchor]

That looks dope until a cyborg coming out of water goin after you

[visual egret]

any essentials plugin is bloatware

if you have an issue with spammers, ban them yourself or use a chat control plugin

such as chatcontrol and carbon (or was it called something else)

or just use vanilla

nomana what did i say wrong

enlighten me

[wraith trail]

I'd assume chatcontrol

[visual egret]

probably

since its made by that guy

[wraith trail]

Chatcontrol is bloatware

[visual egret]

never used it

[ashen cliff]

That's a moment.

[visual egret]

i just saw people talk about it here so i assumed it was usable

[left swift]

[wraith trail]

It's usable, a lot of people are happy with it.

[visual egret]

yeah dont use chatcontrol then lol

[wraith trail]

A lot of people use yatopia

[visual egret]

well yes-

[left swift]

I use yatopia on my pi for peak performance

[visual egret]

my friend is using some random hacked client on my server rn, i let him

but like why use that

instead of something notable

[next wind]

did you remember to stack your mobs for extra performance?

[visual egret]

that one is a classic lol ^

[left swift]

Mobs stacked and silk spawners so all the spawners are in one chunk it no lag

[peak dirge]

Using Yatopia? Don't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M-CRfOp8Tw

[left swift]

Got entity tracker fixer fixing tbag already

[peak dirge]

This was because they screwed up a Lithium backport

[left swift]

[ashen cliff]

Tags added: CustomWorldGen, NoLag

[next frost]

where can I download that sexy world generator?

[visual egret]

from my website, gogle.google.xyz real no fake virus

[minor badge]

@zealous wedge

[zealous wedge]

@minor badge

[mental meadow]

[woven otter]

ehh managed to manually recover more files than ddrescue maybe I was doing something wrong

[left swift]

[woven otter]

both dd and ddrescue failed at 3gb for some reason (8GB sd)

[mental meadow]

did you try running checkdisk or something to rule out a software error?

[woven otter]

ofc I didnt kek

[uncut moss]

it's been like a year and i still don't get the point of adventure

[meager tusk]

messages

cool colors

[warped spear]

that was fixed several versions ago, that video is fairly outdated

the lithium stuff is fixed now last time I checked

[true canyon]

A proper API for formatting text the client sees beyond colors and underline/bold/italic, allowing for hovers, clickable stuff (that isn't the url in the text), etc.

[uncut moss]

isn't spigot's api proper

[true canyon]

🤣

[meager tusk]

[true canyon]

Politely, no.

[uncut moss]

well i guess that answers that

and minimessage is for converting text into adventure components?

[true canyon]

And spigot doesn't even properly support their own developed component api within the rest of the bukkit fork. It's horrible.

Minimessage is a sane way to create messages in a format that's also readable to non-developers, and can be used for configurable messages and such.

[woven otter]

explorer keeps dying on that card ffs. ubuntu live boot had no issue at all

[uncut moss]

fuck i accidentally formatted my drive with linux on it

[peak dirge]

@warped spear notice the past tense was, also I will still recommend that nobody use Yatopia anyway, it is garbage.

[visual egret]

hmmmmm

[wraith trail]

You may not have multiple accounts

[visual egret]

is that a valid reason to pirate the game though?

[next frost]

[wraith trail]

In my thought that would be ethical

[visual egret]

lemme see if the one account he used to log in is actually real

[next frost]

you don't pirate the game by setting your test server to offline mode

[visual egret]

your intentions are clear though

[next frost]

also, as long as they have an account, I couldn't care less if they're using offline mode to test with multiple instances

[minor badge]

fun fact, buying 3 different accounts to test something is stupid and nobody sane does that

[visual egret]

yeah

but this guy is trying to log onto a proxy

[minor badge]

and allen owns the game lol

[coarse lily]

Uhhhh. I'll see myself out.

[uncut moss]

only 3 lol

[left swift]

Buying 3 accounts so u can afk a large mob farm in a server 18 hours a day isnt thaaaaaat crazy rite?

[visual egret]

im just saying

skinrestorer is a very sus plugin

[olive marlin]

I needed 10 sessions to test one of my plugins - no way I'm buying that many accounts lol

[left swift]

Do u bm ppl in other discords with ooc screenshots alot

[visual egret]

what

[left swift]

Badmouth people in other discord with out of context screenshots

[cosmic raft]

wtf discord

https://i.imgur.com/3ui9ZFw.png

does anyone see that second message?

[left swift]

No

[woven otter]

Hmmm

[cosmic raft]

discord be broken

[merry talon]

#politics message

[formal turret]

what? i see all those mesages?

[merry talon]

I do

[warped spear]

idk performs pretty well for me and so far is the only paper fork I have tried that can reliably run a server on a rasberry pi so there is that

then again I would only advise people use the stable build if you wanna f with it

tbh one of the better and more interesting bukkit forks I have used

the worst bukkit fork is regular spigot when they did the tick skipping bs

[slim nymph]

childs play, i got people with 10+ alts on my server

before we had cross server chat, one person had an alt per server

[coarse lily]

Aikar is an alt

[true canyon]

aikalt?

[coarse lily]

Altkar

[slim nymph]

technically, my name did originate as an alt

[true canyon]

Those are two aikar alts right there, ocelot! 😄

[slim nymph]

but i liked it better and went with it as primary

[magic river]

I just made fake players when I needed to test things involving multiples

Well, I also had 2 accounts so I could see how things actually look to another player

[slim nymph]

ive bought this game like 10 times lol

my wife had like 5+ accounts

[coarse lily]

I have like 16 accounts.

I'm not proud of that.

[slim nymph]

bought for family too then took back over some of em

[heavy jetty]

does anyone know of a plugin that intentionally crashes the server? Need to test something because I think the latest pterodactyl panel has a bug with handling crashes incorrectly

[limber knot]

I only have 1, although I use one of the accounts my brother doesn't use as an alt

[coarse lily]

A few were testing accounts, a few were admin alts, a few were joke accounts, etc

[magic river]

If a plugin can crash the server any way other than via the watchdog that's a bug in the server 😛

[olive marlin]

Make it Thread.sleep(60s) on enable.

[heavy jetty]

right, the bug that I'm looking into with Pterodactyl is it displays the server as stopping instead of stopped, making it impossible to restart the server

[heavy jetty]

will try that ty

[left swift]

That's the server not pterodactyl

[heavy jetty]

No, the server is correctly stopped. Pterodactyl just marks it as stopping instead of stopped

you can fix it by restarting pterodactyl daemon and start the server afterwards

[wraith trail]

so then it's a problem with whatever egg you are using