general

[magic river]

It's taking too long to download and parse your CSS and/or JS

[spare venture]

cloudflare caches it, doesn't it?

oh i have dev mode on

okay my website is supafast now

wonder what rating my dynmap page gets

57 that can't be right lmfao

[limber knot]

My site probably has terrible rating, even if it has some good loading speeds

how about my site

wut is dis rating thing

[left swift]

Ur site is 5

[spare venture]

its a dumb rating that makes you chase numbers

[limber knot]

google lighthouse, SEO

[left swift]

Bad rating bad site bad memes

[spare venture]

webp is pretty cool tho ngl

[limber knot]

5/5 best site ever

[left swift]

Stalememes.robomwm

[limber knot]

I can make that if u wanna

[left swift]

Sure

[limber knot]

wuts ur website

[spare venture]

making a png go from 441kb to 16kb for 0 effortis nice

[left swift]

I dont have website I use discord for all community stuff

[limber knot]

not just stale, also dum, nice

[spare venture]

this bastard

[left swift]

Is that dms and ur pinging

[spare venture]

no

[left swift]

O

[spare venture]

pinged him every day for so many days straight

he is going to get a bad yelp review

[left swift]

Ghosted

[minor badge]

bruh ?

[left swift]

Just a really long sleep

[limber knot]

oh it is barty

[spare venture]

well he was asleep when he sent that message, so he clearly won't remember it today

[limber knot]

heccin stop changing ur name, ur fulfilling kash's prophecy

[spare venture]

robo: they keep changing it for me

[limber knot]

no description

I only accept high effort meme PRs

[left swift]

There is a description its just in invisible ink

[limber knot]

if you need examples, check out laxwashere

[clever widget]

what is best render distance

[agile tulip]

Hey, does anyone have experience with ovh firewall? Right now Im under DDOS, and all my servers that are on external OVH dedicated are running fine. However all my external game servers that are on hetzner can't connect to mysql and bungee. Does anyone know how I can configure it?

[twin lagoon]

tcpshield

[clever widget]

what about 65

[ashen cliff]

A yes.
https://posili.me/i/2021-01-06_19-44-37.png

[agile tulip]

Ovh ddos protection is fine

[twin lagoon]

clearly not as you're under attack

[agile tulip]

Well, bungee and all game servers that are in ovh network are working fine

And players are playing with no issues

Howeverr I don't know how to configure external servers, so they don't get blocked

[limber knot]

are you advertising those IPs or something

[agile tulip]

Nope

External servers arn't under attack

Theier ips are hidden

[limber knot]

well somebody knows them if they're being hammered?

or

are you saying they can't connect to your ovh instances

cuz of the mitigation

[twin lagoon]

nah OVH's firewall fucks external connections for the most part

OVH's panel is ass but there should be a GAME firewall tab per dedicated server

[agile tulip]

They can't connect to ovh instances. Ovh firewall just blocks theier mysql and minecraft port

I can ping main machine from external instances

[limber knot]

pretty sure game firewall is just UDP ports iirc

[twin lagoon]

no

[agile tulip]

Byt mysql doesn't pass thtrough ovh firewall

[limber knot]

or I'm thinking sys

[twin lagoon]

sys and firewall are two things that don't combine

[limber knot]

you can set ports for udp tho with "game mitigation" or something

[agile tulip]

Mysql is tcp, not udp right?

[limber knot]

ya

anyways I only know about sys idk what main ovh is

[agile tulip]

I can to this

But idk what is good for mc and mysql

[clever widget]

me: //paste
server: i am dead

[agile tulip]

I don't know much about networking

[limber knot]

how does one run a "network" but not know much about networking :/

they both use tcp

[agile tulip]

I know enought to make everything run when I don't have really technical issues

From my knowleage I've tried this, hovewer it didn't work

Do you have any ideas what I can try? Or where is error in this config?

[limber knot]

source port may be * but unsure

[left swift]

They dont

[limber knot]

I also don't get why ppl like running networks like, can u have one unique server that's fun and kewl? But idk, lowest common denominator players I guess

[left swift]

When is ur fun and kewl server working robot

[clever widget]

whenever i paste a schematic that has glass or iron bars in it (https://prnt.sc/whq627) they dont connect

how do i update all the blocks quickly

[left swift]

Creative

[agile tulip]

I like having multiple fun servers

[mental meadow]

I think it's //perf or something

with the latest WE

[limber knot]

it starts working whenever u /apply

[left swift]

I cant read

[warm anchor]

RoboMWM you mean I shouldn’t run bungee with 10 server with 0-1 player each but one server with 20?

[limber knot]

how else does one play Minecraft that's wut all the big serburs do??!?!?!!11

[clever widget]

even with update on it doesnt work

when pasting

[mental meadow]

are you using WE or FAWE?

[cosmic raft]

wtf

teamviewer gui does not work on linux unless you use a dm

[clever widget]

FAWE

[hidden hill]

Hello everybody! How to disable built-in anti-cheat on fly? The players are kicked for the fly.

[zealous wedge]

isn't there a setting for that?

[clever widget]

in server .properties turn allow-flight on

i think

or true i mean

[limber knot]

everything is either true or false

yes

[clever widget]

oh no a sentient bot

what do we do

[twin lagoon]

well use a dm

smh

[cosmic raft]

why!

[hidden hill]

This anti-cheat kicks people when they mount a horse, and when they reconnect, the horse is gone.

[warm anchor]

Nice anti cheat

[left swift]

Find a better anticheat

[warm anchor]

No horse no cheat

Ez

[hidden hill]

Matrix

[clever widget]

i think @hidden hill is using NCP

[hidden hill]

Best anti-cheat in my opinion.

[clever widget]

.

[warm anchor]

Best anti cheat is having a mature player base

[clever widget]

best anti cheat is mods

admins

[hidden hill]

No, allow-flight=false.

[clever widget]

OH

[left swift]

[clever widget]

yeah idk

[hidden hill]

Yes, but cheaters are everywhere.

[warm anchor]

Yes that’s why I use word “mature”

[left swift]

Better ban them

[limber knot]

kill the cheaters with fire

[clever widget]

allow-flight=false kicks you if you stand on a pile of boats

[limber knot]

pretty sure players don't get kicked for riding horses on my serbur

[left swift]

Sounds like old version of minecraft or bad interwebs

[limber knot]

sounds like ur players have some srs lag or ur runnin sum protocol plogenz

[left swift]

Maybe both

[minor badge]

@cedar spade 😔 my last 2 cards in pyramid are a 5 & 8 and i dont have either in my hand 😔

[cedar spade]

huh

what's a pyramid

[minor badge]

wtf

[stiff yarrow]

sounds vaguely like mahjong

[vernal moth]

Guys guys

https://twitter.com/SkelSec/status/1346517626026123268?s=19

SkelSec (@SkelSec)

I waited 2 years for this, rewrote impacket for this, asked cryptographers to remake algos in python for this, spent enormous time of my life to make this happen. and it's finally here this finally works and I can't find the words to express my satisfaction.

Retweets

666

Likes

2180

Twitter · Jan 5, 2021, 6:03 PM

[minor badge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_(solitaire)

[vernal moth]

The future is here

SMB in your browser 😂

[cunning badge]

Is there any existing library that works like https://github.com/ronmamo/reflections (for example scan all classes in classpath for annotated classes) and supports java 11?

[twin lagoon]

smb in browser wtf

[minor badge]

reflections works fine on java 15, so it sure will on java 11

[vernal moth]

Classgraph is the new org.reflections

[cunning badge]

I didnt test yet, but there were a lot of issues on github related to java 11

[vernal moth]

It's much better and faster and cooler and shinier

[cunning badge]

Oh that looks exactly what Im looking for. Thank you

Google disappointed me here. You didnt 😄

[minor badge]

mini doesn't know how to disappoint

[cunning badge]

Honestly true. Always helped me in the past when I asked something and he was here lol

[vernal moth]

My memory is horrible, prolly because it's filled with random trivia like this

I know for example that classgraph won a duke

That's brain capacity wasted

[zealous wedge]

I blame the drinking

[vernal moth]

And I know that, because back then I saw it in their readme and I had to Google it

[zealous wedge]

runs

[cedar spade]

What's a brain capacity

[vernal moth]

Zml see, i drink in hopes of deleting those dum facts i have in my brain

[zealous wedge]

what if drinking just burns everything deeper into your brain

[cedar spade]

What's a brain

[cunning badge]

Im drinking because of the balmer percentage

Never was able to hit the spot tho

What.... the fuck .. is that

[spare venture]

weak

[vernal moth]

my old PC ^^

[cunning badge]

Tried to save the cost for a case? 😄

[vernal moth]

now it has a fun origin story

[spare venture]

if your pc isnt in an aquarium don't talk to me

[vernal moth]

I moved into my parents basement cause sommer and hot, plus privacy and more room (and being able to scream and game all night)
my sis complained that my walls where so white and empty and she was like, go hang something up
and I was like, why would I hang something up, am looking at my pc 24/7 anyways
and she was like frustrated and yelled go hang up your dum pc then
so thats what I did 😄

[cunning badge]

Well the question is if your pc is an aquarium

Otherwise you are not allowed to talk to yourself

[plucky canopy]

people be like, "I don't understand, why are my timings lagging so badly"

[olive marlin]

A lot of potential wasted - should have made CPU heat spreader double up as pizza warmer smh

[plucky canopy]

massive opportunity there

[clever widget]

bruh bruh bruh

[plucky canopy]

btw just discovered the beauty that is a wall mounted pc and im currently in love

[clever widget]

you save on a case

[plucky canopy]

and it looks smexy

you dont need a ton of fans either

[clever widget]

DUST 100

[plucky canopy]

OOF

forgot ab that part

dust literally getting in the pc as it pleases

[clever widget]

also custom loop maitenence

[plucky canopy]

well if you buy the whole thing as a prebuilt...

[clever widget]

also building that is going to be hell because of hardline tubing

you can get that as a prebuilt?

Doubt

[void void]

ahhh @spare venture the plugin ouputs realllly bad images

the painting replacement directly gives much much nicer results

[spare venture]

that's false

[vernal moth]

thats basically how I wanted mine to look 😂

but I never put the LEDs in

or did cable management

[spare venture]

this looks fine to me

[cedar spade]

who's party

are they owned by EA

[spare venture]

yes

[quasi valley]

partEArealms

[unkempt drift]

$5 to finish reading rules to access the rest of the server right?

[spare venture]

yes

[mossy vessel]

No

[limber knot]

kom in a wut

o google meet

wow

that's a first

[spare venture]

mods pls

[mossy vessel]

@mental meadow

[mental meadow]

wtf is google meet

[limber knot]

google's zoom alternative

used to be hangouts

or whatever they keep renaming it to

[mental meadow]

?kick @ivory sequoia Idk what you want, but this is not a place to advertise stuff

[leaden oxide]

Pjotr#8491 was kicked | Idk what you want, but this is not a place to advertise stuff

[spare venture]

hehe

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banned-gif-8540509

[limber knot]

hmm, guess they don't allow guest accounts, o well, I'll never find out

[spare venture]

why is my IJ complaining about not being able to resolve an repo when i don't even have it in my build.gradle

[stiff yarrow]

gonna do the wall mounted route for my living room PC when I get around to it

[spare venture]

ah ok

jobs depends on wildstacker apparently

and wildstacker is KIA?

[plucky canopy]

nice

[hot hamlet]

Hey does anyone use the Mycommands plugin

I am about to commit unliving unless i receive help

Im going insane

[limber knot]

just use commands.yml

I only used that plugin for signs lol once I realized commands.yml was a thing

[spare venture]

commands.yml yes

[limber knot]

I then made my own sign command plugin, and bye bye it is

hmm, I guess that's another plugin I could separate from my mountaindewritoes

[hot hamlet]

Whats the format for the commands.yml though

[spare venture]

.g commands.yml format minecraft

[hot hamlet]

And most importantly how do i create permissions for them

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/Commands.yml

[spare venture]

wow its only a google away!

[limber knot]

literally searching commands.yml gives u dat page

.lmgtfy commands.yml

[hot hamlet]

Bread + water

[spare venture]

you're the one who's getting mad over this?

[limber knot]

simpleauthority, another miss

[tropic flame]

vroom vroom

[limber knot]

logics4, that's a name I haven't seen in a while

[tropic flame]

hello, Robo

missed you too

[limber knot]

ur the og dumcordian

[mental meadow]

?kick @hot hamlet Keep such comments out of here

[leaden oxide]

BumbleTree#6969 was kicked | Keep such comments out of here

[tropic flame]

LMAO yeah

and you're the IRC lover

[limber knot]

lol idk, he just did an overused meme

no need to love

it's just better

[spare venture]

yeah telling people to kill themselves is a meme, right....

[tropic flame]

i don't blame you, dreaming is nice

[spiral robin]

[spare venture]

robo do you want to convert all of the images on my website to webp

[limber knot]

nah, pretty much a meme on roblox censor, I barely see it as ever being intentional and afaik he was just jokin with u

convert wut

r u putting ur website in minecraft

or r u making a spigotcourse

[spare venture]

yeah telling someone to kill themselves is not a joke.

webp makes ur images really small file size

441kb to 16kb for instance

[untold copper]

yeah its one of the places I actually achieve my dreams

[tropic flame]

same

we cri

[untold copper]

sad

[limber knot]

u sound like this one html book I read that's from 1997

which talked about image compression

[spare venture]

why do i talk to you

[limber knot]

the best option is to have no images at all

commit delete on .pngs

the better question is if ur dumcordian account is older than mine tho mr dreamer

[spare venture]

there

[visual egret]

this is a big question, but i got no idea what tf im doing wrong

[coarse lily]

Probably wrong db or haven’t switched to a db yet.

[visual egret]

im in the right DB, because im using the same connection to manage another table in that database

[limber knot]

100 on performance, nice

[visual egret]

?

what if i restart my systems 🤔

lemme test that

[limber knot]

tap targets for mobile, hmm, idk how I'd fix that

[coarse lily]

Rob are you okay?

[visual egret]

i have no idea what they are on about

restart gives me a different error, but i think i can handle this one, so restarting fixed it

[stiff yarrow]

when in doubt use the debugger

[visual egret]

i cant really do that

im testing in production

[mental meadow]

Do you know any self hosting alternatives for Tebex? Doesn't have to be something good 😄

[visual egret]

also looking for something like that ^

[limber knot]

wut u doin Chew

I need a voice

I could take a +o

+owo what's this?

o no

[coarse lily]

+v is nice.

[limber knot]

mr potpie, ppl were about lighthouse 2day

[untold copper]

Alrighty bois

[visual egret]

whats up snoopa

[limber knot]

mr barty/party/bready man trying to get 100s on his website

[untold copper]

I'm probably shutting down my minecraft server

[coarse lily]

On gotcha.

[visual egret]

but you had like players

[limber knot]

but I already have 100s

except for seo

[coarse lily]

Lighthouse is an okay rule of thumb.

[untold copper]

I still have players .-.

[visual egret]

why you shutting down?

[coarse lily]

But it only shows part of the story sometimes.

[limber knot]

send 'em 2 me

[untold copper]

lots of reasons

[coarse lily]

Or will give warnings for things that are intentional

[untold copper]

most important is no time at this point in life

besides

I had a good run running a server

I'm satisfied with what I managed to create

But sadly I just don't have time to maintain it anymore

[visual egret]

what can i say but F

[untold copper]

I'll probably just give it over to someone and lay low for a couple years

dunno exactly yet

[visual egret]

👀 hello

[coarse lily]

Rob which IRC client are you using?

[untold copper]

kiwi

irc

[limber knot]

IRC Explorer

[untold copper]

oh

[limber knot]

but the dev like... died or something idk

[coarse lily]

Oof

[limber knot]

it's gone from the store now :c

[untold copper]

oof

[coarse lily]

You on your phone?

[limber knot]

ya last he was talking about windows 10

and then... nothing more

his bouncer eventually died

this was like late 2015 or 2016

[coarse lily]

Gonna stick with it or switch to something else,

Oh I guess that answers that.

[limber knot]

Foo IRC is ok but pretty laggy when loading buffers

[visual egret]

bruh

[limber knot]

gonna prolly make my own... someday

[turbid spade]

hey all, is there like an off-topic channel here for js help?

[untold copper]

ocelot

[visual egret]

i just figured out why some of my code wasnt working

[limber knot]

but right now I'm still using it

[untold copper]

Just asking

[visual egret]

i was logging onto the wrong server

[coarse lily]

Is it similar to mIRC, Rob?

[untold copper]

What do you feel about taking over an mc server

you dont have to

nothin like that

just asking

[limber knot]

ppl have said that ya

[coarse lily]

Makes sense Rob.

[limber knot]

https://i.imgur.com/rR4WPxQ.png

[coarse lily]

No thanks, Snoopa.

[untold copper]

huh ok

[limber knot]

just send the players my way

[coarse lily]

Ah yeah looks similar

[limber knot]

wut sort of serbur

[untold copper]

its survival

[visual egret]

why do all IRC clients look the same lol

[untold copper]

and its very good + growing fast

[limber knot]

I'd probably need to switch IRC clients someday

[spare venture]

Nah I’ll take the players

[limber knot]

just send 'em 2 my near vanilla den c:

unless it's really enhanced a lot

then the meme serbur it is

[untold copper]

I'll probs just transfer ownership to someone

for until end of school

[limber knot]

all u gotta do is cname

Hexchat really doesn't like Minecraft 1.8 for some strange reason and freezes. Under windows it disables copy-pasting for some other reason

[spare venture]

DNS record pointing to partywelmz

[limber knot]

it took quite a bit of configuration for me to make hexchat look like IRC Explorer

and even then I can't get the borders dark

I don't think it possible to configurate that (or at least it didn't when I tried)

but what's nice about Metro/UWP apps is that the settings roam to all my machines

[turbid spade]

can i post a code snippet here?

[limber knot]

I got rid of fixed width, made background dark and text white, random colors for names

I think the only thing I couldn't do was the prefixes in chat

or was it the user list

[coarse lily]

I would post a paste of it. Not the code.

[turbid spade]

alr

i mean its like 5 lines

[coarse lily]

https://paste.gg/

[limber knot]

oh, and to copy from it you have to do ctrl shift c or something weird

[turbid spade]

https://pastebin.com/mg1VqEWx

I'm trying to use the javascript extension from PlaceholderAPI to read data from a file

Is import not a thing in JS?

and obv require won't work like i stupidly assumed

bc that's node js and I have to use purely built-in javascript

[spare venture]

I think the papi JavaScript stuff is pretty basic

[hoary coral]

Maybe require()?

[slim nymph]

@visual egret just implement PayPal IPN processing.

[turbid spade]

It's very basic but my only hope of communicating with this plugin

[slim nymph]

but someones prob created something for it, dunno though

I use XenForo's, I tie ranks to Forum Paid roles

Xenforo has a paid role system built in you can use

then hook into role changes to sync game state

[mental meadow]

We just want something simple for april fools ^^

[stiff yarrow]

was just told by the GF that her work just gave everyone a break to watch the news

[coarse lily]

Why?

[vernal moth]

theres a domestic terrorist attack on the capitol ongoing, see #politics

[coarse lily]

Ah in the US

I thought nossr wasn’t in the US

For some reason.

[stiff yarrow]

the more civilized you are the less American you seem

[coarse lily]

How true that is sometimes these days.

[minor badge]

on a more positive note, enjoy a little zalgo bus countdown :-)

[warm anchor]

Wow here I live bus makes their own schedule 🙃

[coarse lily]

I miss the snow proxi. You’re making me envious.

[limber knot]

I'm suprised that #politics isn't a thing on espernet

[mental meadow]

For a reason

[minor badge]

We just suddenly got a few hours of snow, snow, and even more snow here

[limber knot]

top 10 snow, number 1

[minor badge]

its also hard snow, none of that sloppy ass shit

[upper flicker]

social channels are not bridged

re: geolykt

[limber knot]

Number #15, burger king foot snow. The last thing you want in your Burger King burger is someone else's foot snow

[minor badge]

Zoidberg, kick Chew for trolling

[vernal moth]

in other news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8VyADSAPhM

static fire

[limber knot]

Zoidberg isn't here, it's Borg

[upper flicker]

kinda stole their thunder didnt it

[limber knot]

Borg: kick Chew for trolling

Oh, that actually worked

[upper flicker]

it works from IRC

it shouldnt work from the bridge

its a fantasy cmd iirc, lets you treat the bot like its a person

[mighty storm]

Ha, get rekt chew

[limber knot]

No, I was more talking about that noone else came to the idea of creating a politics channel here

[upper flicker]

oh, esper might have a politics channel, Im not overly familiar

[minor badge]

We've come to the idea of intentionally not making one :>

[upper flicker]

with how divided everyone is that's kind of a shit show to moderate though too

[minor badge]

it's a hellhole on this side, y'all deserve some love over there 💕

[limber knot]

Imagine being divided, just have formal debates with absolutely no logical fallacies, it's quite simple

[mighty storm]

chew u sux

[limber knot]

👁️

[slim nymph]

what the absolute fuck, NYTimes just put out a fake news smear post on Jetbrains: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/russia-cyber-hack.html

[zealous wedge]

the fuck

maybe JB let the NYT's youtrack tickets sit open for too long

[slim nymph]

nothing has been said that TeamCity was the source, just someone saying "they have ties, they might be the sourcE!!!"

[vernal moth]

wtf

[slim nymph]

https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2021/01/06/statement-on-the-story-from-the-new-york-times-regarding-jetbrains-and-solarwinds/

[zealous wedge]

ughhhh

[upper flicker]

it just says "theyre investigating the potential of xyz"

so yeah its pretty bad to shove that into the nyt

[slim nymph]

"Government officials are not certain how the compromise of the JetBrains software relates to the larger SolarWinds hacking. "

[upper flicker]

SolarWinds is one of our customers and uses TeamCity, which is a Continuous Integration and Deployment System, used as part of building software

there's your "why"

[slim nymph]

its worded as if Team City was CONFIRMED compromised

[upper flicker]

probably following up on every little thing solarwinds did or used

so naturally they'll take that and write some awful article about it

[mighty storm]

Ah yes, news outlets being as shitty as ever, none of them have my respect anymore

[ashen cliff]

Does modern media care about anything except getting clicks?
No.

[minor badge]

@heady spear how dare you!

[limber knot]

Team city was sus from the start

[slim nymph]

not sure if that was sarcastic, doesnt feel it

[limber knot]

Although Circle CI is also a bit strange with their ads but at least they keep it on a more professional side

[slim nymph]

nothing "sus" about team city

[vernal moth]

I mean, using team city as a entry point for a supply chain attack isnt impossible

[limber knot]

I don't like the ads, nothing more

[vernal moth]

but nothing seems to indicate that, and its for sure not jetbrains fault then, lol

[slim nymph]

ads on TC?

[limber knot]

yep

[slim nymph]

wat, i dont remember ads, but i dont use it anymore

[upper flicker]

my bet is that they're investigating everything solarwinds ever did or saw, used, made bacon with, saw on the ride to work, etc. and they confirmed somewhere that they were investigating

and clickbait journalism went brrrrrr

because that solar winds thing hit all over so they're probably looking at every single receipt

[ancient bolt]

TC doesn't have ads lol

if it has ads then that's something the person hosting TC added themselves

it's a professional jetbrains product

but also I bet someone at solarwinds used google chrome so google is probably in deep shit too

[ashen cliff]

Maybe they also used GNU/Linux. 🤔

[ancient bolt]

I think you mean GNU+Linux

[upper flicker]

someone get gnu/linus to safety

[ancient bolt]

In which case RMS better run and hide

[vernal moth]

I guess they jumped to conclusions since jetbrains got a st petersburg office or smth?

idk, stupid

[ancient bolt]

I mean they're based in prague

they do have offices in moscow and st petersburg but still

[minor badge]

Novosobirsk or some shit too, iirc

[vernal moth]

basically russia evil uwu

[minor badge]

@quasi valley :0

[quasi valley]

0:

[zealous wedge]

it's almost like russia is a country near the czech republic that jetbrains might have a business interest in?

[vernal moth]

so you are saying jetbrains implemented a backdoor for russia into teamcity so they could infect solarwind binaries to then infect the us gov?

[coarse lily]

Now all the premium plugin code is gonna get leaked.

Oh no.

[worn ember]

No bad word about my comrade's

[limpid comet]

your comrade's what

[spiral robin]

bluely

kashike

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/mvGBOci.png

[spiral robin]

mini

[vernal moth]

paper fixing issues FAST

[mossy vessel]

Paper goes brr

[minor badge]

triage team gotta step it up smh

[mossy vessel]

Always doing a great job

[spare venture]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/4928
I just want to say that this one looks pretty good to me

[void void]

imma use this screenshot next time I get a "that's experimental and community owned we can't be relying on it"

do people like keepchunks?

[unkempt drift]

this one does look good 🙂

[void void]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/keepchunks.23307/ is this the best chunk loading plugin?

[vernal bone]

To keep them loaded in the memory maybe, but to pregenerate check chunky

[void void]

i've already pregen'd

i just have a iron farm it'd be nice to have loaded at all times

i know vanilla tweaks has an experimental

that works with a load stone?

[worn ember]

Ah yes vanilla chunk loaders is what we need kek

[muted portal]

If you’re going to modify your server to give yourself free iron, why don’t you just give it directly?

[void void]

this is a good point

[minor badge]

@green turret

[green turret]

Sup Prox!

[minor badge]

how's it hanging?

[visual egret]

Minecraft Earth is shutting down :(

was a pretty fun game

[green turret]

Not great honestly. I mean, all things considered I'm probably fine. Bit stressed, got an issue with my left foot so I can't walk properly, I didn't get anything done during Christmas. Bah.

How about you?

[minor badge]

I'm faiiirly good! Gotten myself into a little more of making my own food again, luckily

[green turret]

Ohhh nice! I cooked a bit this year already as well! That's a positive thing 😄

[minor badge]

Yeaa, I got into a little ordering food phase, happy to be back to the kitchen :p

[brave radish]

@minor badge if it has no permanent side effects, can you kick me? I wanna know what it looks like

[minor badge]

Don't know why I started, it takes less time to make my own food tbh

[cosmic raft]

It doesn't look like anything

[minor badge]

?kick @brave radish Weird request to be kicked. Here you go ig

[cosmic raft]

You just are not in this guild anymore when kicked

[minor badge]

good night dyno

[leaden oxide]

AMinecraftUser96758#7567 was kicked | Weird request to be kicked. Here you go ig

[minor badge]

good morning dyno

[green turret]

I think sometimes just shoving a bunch of oiled and seasoned veggies on a baking sheet in the oven is the perfect meal. Love that stuff.

[olive marlin]

Does Dev team no longer need Core team review before merging?

[green turret]

Did that this evening!

[cosmic raft]

@olive marlin depends on the PR

[minor badge]

For some PRs, Bloodstone

[cosmic raft]

95% of the time, no

5%, yes

[green turret]

Potatoes and carrots, little bit of oil, salt, pepper, thyme, cayenne. 200 C for 25 mins, taaaaasty.

[vernal moth]

(realistically, proxi will handle most of the PRs for the next bit as I try hard to focus on hangar)

which is actually hard when the US is on fire

[viral hornet]

Yeah @quasi valley

Hurry up with hangar

[olive marlin]

@minor badge Serenity just released 0.10.0, with Tokio 1.0 and Discord v8 API

Can't wait to see how much stuff breaks lol

[minor badge]

[viral hornet]

Wow

That emoji is actually terrifying

[olive marlin]

I don't have it

[brave radish]

hmm... out of curiousity, why'd discord make me wait 10 minutes after rejoining the server to speak when the ppl who get kicked for real don't?

[spare venture]

2FA

[olive marlin]

Maybe settings got changed?

Oh, does 2FA let you bypass that?

[spare venture]

if you have 2FA you bypass the 10 minute thing

yes

[olive marlin]

Idk how this makes sense, but ok.

[minor badge]

Yeah, we upped the strictness after yesterday's incident

[brave radish]

ig bc if you're setting up robots you won't give a phone #

[limpid comet]

yesterday's incident?

[twin lagoon]

2b2t visited

[olive marlin]

6b6t *

Owner got banned for being mean, sent his server members to harras people in here and troll.

[minor badge]

theyve been harassing me for months

[unkempt drift]

what for?

[minor badge]

1.12 support :-))

[olive marlin]

Oh.

[unkempt drift]

LOL

[brave radish]

What do people not understand about them making money off of the work y'all do for FREE not mandating LTS?

[unkempt drift]

should get a bot that has the Core Team role that is called "DM me your suggestions" and just have it reply, your suggestion has been noted. but not do anything

[minor badge]

I don't expect them to stop either, nor do I particularly care. It's nothing new, and I'm rather used to the insults they can't even come up with by themselves

[brave radish]

"they can't even come up with by themselves"... oof lol

[spare venture]

Basically the security levels are all bypassed if you meet the requirements for the security level above them.

Kinda dumb tbh

Discord seems to think that bots with verified phones are impossible

[olive marlin]

It looks like it isn't really true, just the wording on the levels isn't obvious.

[spare venture]

If you have 2FA you don't have to wait 10 minutes

[limpid comet]

damn

that sucks

[formal turret]

you can use an app for auth so you don't have to give discord your phone number though

[spare venture]

I shouldn't have said 2FA, my bad

[formal turret]

like authy or google authenticator

[spare venture]

You have to have a phone number associated with your account to hit that level

[formal turret]

oh, yea

[olive marlin]

All previous levels have "Must also ...", so in addition to previous level.

The last one doesn't have that.

There was an app that let you have 2 free phone numbers for free that incoming messages / calls were relayed to you. I wonder how that'd work lol

[vernal moth]

VoIP is a thing

And you can buy phone number ranges

[olive marlin]

Oh, that too.

[vernal moth]

For example, my company owns everything under city code /308

My number is 308 + 5 numbers, but i believe it goes deeper

So plenty of numbers

[olive marlin]

But you need to pay for them, idk how many bot networks can afford bigger ranges.

[ashen cliff]

You can always just add 1 more number.

[vernal moth]

I think there's a max?

[spare venture]

I mean all it takes is 1 bot to DM spam

[ashen cliff]

There is. But mostly due to legacy.

[olive marlin]

Legacy is fun, especially if you partially migrate and half your code base doesn't support your updated rules.

I still don't understand how you can make website able to register you with some email, let you make orders and reset your password. The only place which didn't support my email was login flow xD

Can create acc and reset pass, can't login again.

[mossy vessel]

Fun website

[olive marlin]

Yeah. I thought the service was broken when I went to login a few days later.

I messaged them with this bug, they changed email on my account for me.

[mossy vessel]

Imagine not using SSO in 2021

[olive marlin]

Not a fan of having a single point of failure, despite my Google account being probably my best secured accounts (cause banks don't let me use 2FA :/)

[mossy vessel]

Don't they come with some own form of 2fa?

Like something off generic TOTP

[olive marlin]

I have second factor for 3Dsecure (credit card payments online) and for making most transactions.

And changing data of course.

But not to log in and snoop around.

Just my customer number, numeric password and a few digits from my PESEL (similar to SSN).

I have accounts in like 4 banks in my country, all are the same.

[mossy vessel]

Oic, over here you mostly have a separate app for each bank handling everything in house

[warm anchor]

Damn

[mossy vessel]

But I doubt those are not any different from any other TOTP gen

At least for login

[warm anchor]

Some of the local bank here still use SIMS for verification

[mossy vessel]

All do as well

[olive marlin]

One bank "for security" requires you to type in only few digits of your password, but you need to do them in one go so have to write pass from keepass on piece of paper if I want to sign in xD

(On phone, that is).

[mossy vessel]

To be said, I don't often do online banking with local banks.

[olive marlin]

But that's the shitties bank I'm in, just didn't have time to close my account there.

I do way too much banking.

But we also have quite good banking system overall.

Immediate transfers without knowing someone's acc number, TOTP-like payments (just enter 6 digits from banking app and then confirm the payment),...

[mossy vessel]

Everyone takes the money from my bank account, like, I don't have to transfer the money to my electricity company e.g

[olive marlin]

Yeah, you can do that here.

I just do quite a lot of shopping online etc.

[warm anchor]

Sign me up nmf I can take some of your money from you

[olive marlin]

Especially since for free I have next-day delivery and can return for free within 14 days.

[mossy vessel]

Yeah that is handy.

[olive marlin]

So sometimes end up with like 8 pairs of shoes and stuff.

[mossy vessel]

Lots of my clothes are shipped from foreign countries, so overnight delivery is kinda not a thing for me, but free ship plus duty exemption is 🤤

[warm anchor]

We got 2 hour delivery here too from Amazon

And 30 day returns (or 90 days they did for covid Christmas)

[olive marlin]

2 hour delivery?

[warm anchor]

Select cities

[mossy vessel]

^

[olive marlin]

Oh.

[warm anchor]

Gotta live close to one of big Amazon hub

[mossy vessel]

Probs only if you live close to a warehouse

Nevertheless I look forward to spend less on clothes this year smh

[olive marlin]

Amazon is working on starting selling here (we have warehouses, but only because it's cheaper for them to have them here and ship to other countries, than have warehouses there xD).

We have a country competitor, but probably Amazon will just buy them out.

[mossy vessel]

Anything the ordinary customer can gain they'll consume.

[lusty yarrow]

how do I secure my network if someone has the origin IP of the dedi/

[mossy vessel]

Setup a proper firewall.

[lusty yarrow]

could I use ufw?

[mossy vessel]

mfw

[brave radish]

ufw is too "uncomplicated" for its own good

[lusty yarrow]

would players be kicked from my server if I setup a firewall while it is online?

[brave radish]

depends on how you set it up

if you make the allow rule for 25565 first and then turn it on then no

or if your firewall defaults to allow all

also most of the time firewalls won't close existing connections they would normally block, they just block future ones

[heady spear]

hello tips for wireless headsets ?

[olive garden]

or also kill the rapist

[limpid comet]

Anything from SteelSeries is fantastic

I've only got good things to say about them, and so do my friends. Even their cheaper options are awesome

My headset is wired+wireless so I can still plug into a 3.5mm if need be

[mossy vessel]

Airpods

[limpid comet]

Audio is good and the mic is above standard for headset mics

[cedar spade]

^ can second, got a SteelSeries headset (possibly the same one?) a few months ago and it's brilliant

I haven't used the 3.5mm jack very much but it's a solid wireless headset and didn't break the bank

[mossy vessel]

^

Got the Arctis 7 and it works like a charm

But id always prefer a proper mic that doesn't sound like an old bucket

[twin lagoon]

arctis pads are ass though

dunno how people like that

[ashen cliff]

Just put some other pads on them.

[heady spear]

I have an external mic so idc about mic quality

[pale hinge]

hi guys. i have a survival server, where you can have clans, sell items to market, open crates and claim lands. im looking for some new plugins to make my server more interesting. i will be very happy if you suggest me some interesting plugins 🙏

[spare venture]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/

[pale hinge]

oh come on 🙂

[golden gust]

We get asked this question on average multiple dozen times a week

It's a dead and tiring question, we have no idea what fits your wants/needs, why would a bunch of server owners run around to suggest plugins to boost up your server too, do your own market research

[magic river]

When in doubt install mcmmo

[potent fossil]

today has been a...day

[worn ember]

I love 2 shotting sheep with my fists

Or people in diamond armor

[waxen panther]

@viral hornet !!!

guy with hot voice is in waiting roo m!!

[warm anchor]

Having an unique server helps more than using plugins that 99.99% of server has. Plus, the community is what keeps the players together. Work on making it a more enjoyable place > all.

[nimble hill]

anyone know a good cheap host to run a forge server with a light modpack for 5 people or so?

[void void]

hos it yourself!

hey guys what's that plugin that lets you follow people around on a map connected to a webstie?

also lets you see if someones logged on and where they are

[golden gust]

dynmap.

[void void]

thanks that's the ticket

[viral hornet]

[dim shadow]

lol my dynmap has finally reached a size larger than all of my worlds

[ashen cliff]

3GB map, 60GB+ Dynmap.

Welcome to the club.

[dim shadow]

my worlds: 180gb tops
dynmap: 315gb plz

why tho lol dynmap is 2d images, mc files are 3d with tons of extra metadata

i no understand

[coarse lily]

Minecraft files aren't images.

[spare venture]

chances are your dynmap is extremely unoptimized

not using low res stuff, having too many zoom levels, having the isometric view, etc.

[coarse lily]

Secretly serving goat porn, etc.

[spare venture]

dynmap should serve it all in webp

[dim shadow]

oh hell yeah i have it on hi def lol

iso view best view

tho ive seen low res it aint too bad, ill switch to that if i ever get close to running out of gigabytes

[limpid comet]

shhh pls don't tell anyone

[potent fossil]

[spiral robin]

@potent fossil

[potent fossil]

henlo aber

[spiral robin]

henlo

[coarse lily]

Nope.

[true canyon]

Never. Just hides the actual problem you should work to fix, at best.

[coarse lily]

Evenin', mbaxter

[true canyon]

[cosmic raft]

this will be fun in june

https://i.imgur.com/UhuGPe6.png

[zealous wedge]

bold of you to think june will happen

[coarse lily]

Are they gonna cancel June?

Just go right to July?

[zealous wedge]

nah they'll cancel 2021

[cosmic raft]

its more likely to happen currently then it was in december

[zealous wedge]

not much more tho

[cosmic raft]

a bit

in december it was like a 10% chance

after january so far, 16%

[coarse lily]

16% ain't bad.

[tulip lion]

What server provider do you guys recommend for a 20 player semi vanilla server with about 10 plugins

[tribal flicker]

@tulip lion Heya with this many players and plugins lag shouldn't be an issue, I'd buy a pebblehost budget server if you are tight on price, with 20 players and 10 plugins you shouldn't expect noticable lag, get their 6 or 7GB budget thing you should be fine, I had 7GB Budget from them and didn't lag until 20+ but I did have loads of plugins so. anyway it doesn't get much better than $7 a month 😛

[coarse lily]

The number of plugins isn't a great metric because some plugins use a lot more resources than others.

I'd probably recommend DedicatedMC if you're looking for something managed.

[viral hornet]

[limber knot]

u wanna see something kewl @spare venture

https://i.imgur.com/e0TszD9.gif

[spare venture]

it’s a blank page isn’t it

[limber knot]

nope

[spare venture]

link

[limber knot]

robomwm.com

finally decided to use GitHub pages on it

[spare venture]

a clickable link I’m not opening a browser smh

[limber knot]

https://robomwm.com dumcordian

[spare venture]

ty mobile sucks

[limber knot]

well wen u aint on a windows phone, yup

[spare venture]

okay so basically a blank page haha

[limber knot]

c:

[coarse lily]

A desk?

[spare venture]

Nice website

[coarse lily]

It was a holiday-themed thing.

[spare venture]

Needs dark mode option

[limber knot]

was raw html before

ya but then that means I gotta stick javascript on it

but

I have yet to find a good dark theme

[coarse lily]

Not true. You could do server side dark mode without JS.

[limber knot]

I think GitHub uses... what's the default called

whatever GitHub uses, I like the default, but they don't have a dark variant

huh, a different theme I'm gonna use for another site loads a second faster, huh

maybe I'll just use that for my personal site too

doesn't look as nice in IE tho, hrm

ah primer is the default theme

if someone can find me a dark theme of primer that'd be neato

[cunning raft]

yep

#announcements

[spare venture]

robo: i just made my website dark, didn't even bother with a light mode

[limber knot]

ya that's what I'm trying to do but apparently it failed to build and it isn't telling me why

am I missing something https://github.com/RoboMWM/dark_primer/commit/2aa1ce0c00f11d3117849b0dba3f05e12bd62aa2

[merry talon]

maybe it's grey

[limber knot]

nah. wish they had black tho. anyways, think it's cuz their master is failing

nice job github

still heccin failin even tho I reverted to a working build of their template

what even

[coarse lily]

Weird banging around a wildly different distro after being very used to another one.

"Where the hell is everything?

[limber knot]

idk what's up with their template, but anyways, I just followed directions to override their css and that works good enough I guess

[swift root]

How's paper general doing today

[coarse lily]

Hi Larry.

[slim nymph]

everyones mainly chatting in politics about the chaos of today 😛

so, overall sad

@swift root is that a dalek

[swift root]

Yes indeed!

New one from new years special this week

[potent fossil]

[swift root]

hello simple and ocelot and aikar

I had not yet said hello

[coarse lily]

I am now complete.

[heady spear]

hello @swift root !

[mental meadow]

Hewwooo

[heady spear]

why haven't you lot starred korvkiosk yet ?

[swift root]

I forgot to :3

[heady spear]

am crying .

[zealous wedge]

well, it's still a bukkit derivative

so it's not star-worthy

[heady spear]

ok but it's a bukkit derivative with messy kotlin support

so

[zealous wedge]

doesn't make up for it being bukkit

[heady spear]

we need to figure out how to force configure in there somehow

wtf

configurate*

autocorrect no thx

hm so like it shouldn't be very hard to get the configuration serializable shit to work with configurate right ?

like the registered ones

[zealous wedge]

uh possibly?

i never used that part of bukkit's thing

the only things I wrote using bukkit's api were written before new configuration landed

so I just did a straight port

[heady spear]

it's just serialize and deserialize to/from a Map<String, Object>

[zealous wedge]

ah yeah should be pretty easy to implement a TypeSerializer for that

should even be able to register with a Predicate to apply for every single ConfigurationSerializable type

[heady spear]

ah that sounds pretty hot

[limber knot]

helo zml <3

[zealous wedge]

hi proxiii

[mighty storm]

Aurora and proxi up late

[zealous wedge]

or up early

proxi loves mornings

[mighty storm]

Hm

[limber knot]

I woke up at 6.20

[mighty storm]

I can't imagine morning people existing

[limber knot]

Get up early so I can do morning routine, then start work at 8 so I finish it early :p

[mighty storm]

I used to have a routine

The nope

Then*

[zealous wedge]

i got a routine from going back to work for a few months

and it's sorta sticking over vacation

[limber knot]

mine has just devolved into deodorant, perfume, some skin routine, and shaving 🤷‍♀️

[coarse lily]

Hi proxi.

[limber knot]

hello!

[mighty storm]

Hello

Good morning everyone I'm off to bed

[coarse lily]

G'night

[mighty storm]

Rate my skills https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/740637877704196226/796621210682654720/2021010700040900-45998392CB216ABF034EB6F98E399A06.mp4

[serene bolt]

are you playing the switch version?

[woven otter]

https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/1347003152222937088

Twitch (@Twitch)

We've made the decision to remove the PogChamp emote following statements from the face of the emote encouraging further violence after what took place in the Capitol today.

Retweets

22462

Likes

164082

Twitter · Jan 7, 2021, 2:12 AM

Lol

Rip hohoho now im colorless

[coarse lily]

HoHoNo.

[limber knot]

should just delete all twitch emotes

[coarse lily]

Should just delete twitch.

[limber knot]

that works too

[merry talon]

i think this is a bad take from twitch

[left swift]

Why

[merry talon]

no one knows or even gives a shit who the dude in the emote actually is

they're allowing his behavior to negatively affect their business

although idk this could be good pr for them

[left swift]

They didnt remove it because the guy supports trump its cuz he was promoting violence and infowars lol I wouldn't want that associated with my brand either

[limber knot]

ya

[merry talon]

yes but he wasn't associated with it

[limber knot]

no idea who he was

until today

[left swift]

Pogchamp is a global twitch emote and he was a twitch partner

Idk of he still is

If

[limber knot]

I only knew it as one of those annoying twitch emotes

that everyone likes to say

[left swift]

That's pretty associated to me

They use it in branding too

[merry talon]

also the fact that twitch generally doesn't give a shit about what happens on their platform and are historically discriminatory and two faced

[limber knot]

afaik tho he just had a tweet referencing the outrage when the other side props up a "martyr" not actually condoning/calling for anything

[merry talon]

so I see this as ONLY for pr

[limber knot]

two faced isn't sufficient enough to describe twitch lol

[merry talon]

yeah idk what word to use

they're shitty

[limber knot]

double standards if you were to stretch the standards to the extremes

[left swift]

Yeah really inconsistent since Amazon came in

Seems like a call to arms to me

[warm anchor]

Double standard imply they have standard to begin with RoboMWM

[merry talon]

they do when it comes to male streamers

[limber knot]

if you're taking it at face value, it's a question, not a call...

[left swift]

If the context is you just reading it with no idea what else happened today

[limber knot]

pretty sure I provided a context earlier..

[left swift]

Are we taking it at face value or with the context it was tweeted

[merry talon]

but hold on don't people protesting for good causes call to arms every day

why are we debating that and not his shitty political alignment

[coarse lily]

Y'all should be in #politics

[left swift]

Yea

[limber knot]

whenever the bridge for that is here, ye

[coarse lily]

Oh sorry Rob.

[left swift]

Another win for discord

[coarse lily]

paper discriminates. :)

[limber knot]

idk, paper #politics seems to be mostly one-sided (not always, I do see some other viewpoints sometimes), so idk if that's a win

which isn't a surprise anyway

[coarse lily]

Nearly all politics conversations are.

Or it's people shouting and shouting until someone bans/quits/whatever.

Rarely productive.

[limber knot]

well it ties into morality

and people will rarely budge on those

[left swift]

Rarely worth it

[merry talon]

its hard not to be one sided in the current climate lol

closest we've been to objectively having a right and a wrong side

yeah on second thought twitch probably did the right thing

[void void]

NPCLibPlugin* whats with the *?

[quasi valley]

it doesn't define an api-version in the plugin.yml, making Spigot load some extensive compatibility layers

but it'll probably work fine

[vernal moth]

Pretty much means it doesn't support 1.13+ natively

So it's not as good as it could be

[golden gust]

||weather service promising me a good time of being showered by white stuff||

[coarse lily]

Brisk.

[vernal moth]

freedum Units

.wa 32f to c

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Result: 0 °C (degrees Celsius) - https://is.gd/sXoaAu

[coarse lily]

Yeah that one is easy.

[vernal moth]

Well, it would be it one would care about non standard units

[coarse lily]

Standards are all relative, my friend. :)

Look, I like the metric system. But celsius is nonsense.

[vernal moth]

It's literally a standardized system of units tho?

[coarse lily]

So is Fahrenheit.

[golden gust]

I grew up with my grandparents who had a thermometer in the office (basically our living room, however) in Fahrenheit , and so I can reflect on that better than I can celsius

[coarse lily]

I think F just makes more sense to me than C.

60F is like 15.5C.

70F is like 21.1C.

[coarse lily]

80F is like 26.6C

[vernal moth]

Pretty good standard if you ask me

[next frost]

0 °C is the freezing point of water and 100 °C is the boiling point of water (at standard pressure)

[merry talon]

huh? Does it not make sense because a direct conversion results in a decimal?

wat

[coarse lily]

0C makes sense for freezing water but at 0C I don't freeze.

So it makes less sense to me.

[golden gust]

Cool, but, what does the average person give a shit about at what temperature water boils at when they're debating how exposes their want their parts to the rest of the world when leaving the house?

[coarse lily]

32F / 0C is still easily tolerable.

Exactly. What cat said.

I don't say "Would water freeze right now? Should I wear a coat?"

And 100C is 212F.

It's not going to be 212F outside.

So from a weather telling standpoint Fahrenheit has a bit more utility and granularity in it for me.

I'm used to C for car stuff.

[next frost]

you don't choose what your wear only from the temperature

also temperature measurement isn't only about what you wear

[coarse lily]

Well I'm not going on a lot of dates these days. :)

[merry talon]

it makes a lot more sense to adapt your brain to something that doesn't seem intuitive at first than it does to use a system of temperature that is completely arbitrary for scientific purposes

there

[vernal moth]

It doesn't matter what values you set the temperature to, that's exmpletely made up anyways, they are arbitrary. What's important is that we all agree on standards so that we can speak to each other properly

[next frost]

how does that differ to the brain

[coarse lily]

Everything is basically arbitrary, tough.

We just pick something and decide that's the starting point.

Yeah, like Mini said.

[vernal moth]

You just gotta adopt the standards so that your kids don't have to feel weird

[coarse lily]

I'm never gonna get mad at someone for saying C.

I ain't having kids.

So no worries there.

I'll learn C more when I move to Germany. :)

[next frost]

you'll need to ig :p

[merry talon]

I don't know, people argue that farenheit is more intuitive to the human experiencing a temperature

I don't get it

[next frost]

no one uses it here, although it was invented here

[vernal moth]

I get mad at ppl using F when am around the same way I get mad at ppl when they speak french around me. It's annoying not being able to understand it, having to use a translator, etc, when we could all just use english or SI, which are globally regonized and understood by anyone really

[golden gust]

I don't understand Celcius

[coarse lily]

It's not fun when I can't understand someone but I don't get mad if they're speaking French or some other language.

[vernal moth]

I will also never understand why we use inch for screen sizes

[golden gust]

Because that's the standard...

[vernal moth]

No, the standard for length is meter

[golden gust]

We've used inches for screen sizes for literally decades

industrial standard for monitor/screen size then

[merry talon]

I think tradition is the word you're looking for

[vernal moth]

But if I wanna measure if they fit on my desk, i gotta convert to cm or m

[golden gust]

You're used to hearing people refer to screen sizes in inches, and so the tradition/standard of referring to screen sizes remains in inches

You're not measuring the screen size though to see if it fits

[coarse lily]

Yeah if anything it's hard to get people to change.

[golden gust]

You don't care about the dimensions of the panel

[vernal moth]

I do, lol

[golden gust]

You care about the dimensions of the unit as a whole

[coarse lily]

Which is why paper supports spigot plugins. ;)

[vernal moth]

Just last week at my parents i calculated the size they have available in their thingy, and then had to convert to inches and round to next value to see what TV they can fit, lol

[golden gust]

You care about the footprint of the unit

It's all great if the panel fits but means shit if the actual TV itself doesn't

[merry talon]

to be fair who buys a monitor or TV with actual considerable bezels

they're all like less than an inch

[vernal moth]

Yeah, even my cheapo tv has a bezel of sub 1cm

[coarse lily]

How many inches is that?

;)

[golden gust]

I don't even got a TV

[coarse lily]

Me either.

I have a big display.

And a bunch of little displays.

[golden gust]

I keep wanting to get one, but, gonna save that until covid fucks off and I can get a real job

[coarse lily]

But they're all for computers.

[vernal moth]

It was like 300 euro, 4k, hdrnot, 125cm, smart TV shit, samsung

(yes I totally converted that to cm just to fuck with you 😂 )

[golden gust]

.wa 125/2.54

[limber knot]

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[coarse lily]

What's "hdrnot"?

[golden gust]

training school murdered that number into my head

You know what I miss having

A milk man, you cannot beat a pint of milk in a glass bottle in the morning

[coarse lily]

Was that still a thing in the UK?

[vernal moth]

Hdr not is a way of saying that the display supports hdr, in theory, but it's panel doesn't have high enough peak brightness so that the image actually looks like hdr

[coarse lily]

Ah gotcha.

[vernal moth]

I think others also say hdarnt