general

[true canyon]

Relevant - https://xkcd.com/90/

xkcd: Jacket

We have this conversation at least once a day in my apartment

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) xkcd: Jacket (17 April 2006)

[peak ginkgo]

[magic river]

But holy bans are better than regular ones

[past dawn]

sadge

[peak ginkgo]

[minor badge]

how you doing tonight, dejay?

[magic river]

Sorry, my mistake, I mixed that up with holey bans, as in bans so harsh they leave you full of holes

[peak ginkgo]

I'm alright, been slackin on being here but I'm prepping for a vacation

Which probably isn't the best decision given rona, but at the same time that's why its even better to get out rn

[mental meadow]

interesting pronouns

if you wanna make fun of that you can just leave now

[minor badge]

that sounds fun ^^ I hope you enjoy the vacation

[wild escarp]

troll

[mental meadow]

you

[twin lagoon]

aurora

[wild escarp]

trying to get us to say me

[quasi valley]

orora

[mental meadow]

kneny and michael uwu

[minor badge]

?kick @void void Although you reminded me to close my DMs, please follow our rules in regards to mutual respect. We do not use troll pronouns.

[leaden oxide]

Bad Doggy#7901 was kicked | Although you reminded me to close my DMs, please follow our rules in regards to mutual respect. We do not use troll pronouns.

[mossy vessel]

Why is there a lime

[slim nymph]

I have now joined the 10 year club at work

[mental meadow]

I'll just start banning everyone remotely trolling now, let's see how that goes

[halcyon bough]

how that wasn't hurting anyone

[quasi valley]

nmf

[minor badge]

that's epic

[past dawn]

[mossy vessel]

l i m e

[minor badge]

how's the 10 year birthday going, aikar?

[slim nymph]

normal 😛

[left swift]

Gratz aikar

[minor badge]

:p

[slim nymph]

i just hope they dont still give cruises this year! lol

i know the first person to get a 10 year club got a cruise

ill take cash kthx

[left swift]

They'll give you a picture of someone on a cruise instead

[slim nymph]

or Amazon Gift cards

[minor badge]

sure ^^

[mental meadow]

It would be he/him ^^

[slim nymph]

except your pronouns seem trolling with double him....

if you are not intending to troll please fix

[worn ember]

Bruh moment

[halcyon bough]

nah he is just extra him

[mental meadow]

good

[untold copper]

Hai :D

[olive marlin]

It's a bad day to even remotely troll today.

[quasi valley]

then it would be "they/them"

[minor badge]

pronouns such as she/they are also used

[past dawn]

this is confusing

[slim nymph]

well, its what ever you prefer really

its not about "what does society say this gender is", its what do you want people to use

[quasi valley]

as long as it's non-trolly 😂

[worn ember]

More like what they prefer

[slim nymph]

? thats what i said dark

[minor badge]

it is confusing at times indeed, but that's when you just respect their pronouns anyways ^^

[untold copper]

beware of the proxi 👀

[past dawn]

alright

[slim nymph]

or just do what I do, move to they/them as genderless pronouns for everyone 🙂

[warm anchor]

I just ping them by name

[mental meadow]

unless you know their pronouns

[magic river]

I've had at least one person get really angry I always used they/them for them

[mental meadow]

well if you know someones pronouns and they are not using they/them and you still refer to them as they/them, it's still misgendering

[slim nymph]

no its not, thats a bit extreme

[olive garden]

🍿

[untold copper]

[worn ember]

It's this time of day again

[warm anchor]

What if I just call everyone by their name like @ aurora @ snoopa

That will work right

[slim nymph]

its "genderless" to note not implying any gender

[mental meadow]

yea

[untold copper]

mhm

[peak ginkgo]

they/them is neutral

[warm anchor]

That’s how I been go about it

[peak ginkgo]

Even if you do know their gender its completely fine.

[magic river]

They didn't see it as just not remembering or caring to make a note of their gender, for them it was me denying they had a gender

[wide chasm]

Just always use their name and never a pronoun is still the easiest imo

[warm anchor]

Not everyone agree with this statement anymore though

[peak ginkgo]

"So then I told them 'Whats poppin' and he said 'aye'"

[warm anchor]

Yes so much this lol

[peak ginkgo]

@warm anchor I am my own credentials

[magic river]

I think this is silly but that's the argument they had

I still don't remember what they wanted used which is why that's full of they/them

[worn ember]

I just call everyone dude

[peak ginkgo]

everyone is non binary now i do not make the rules

[olive marlin]

I'm talking with a lot of people, can't be bothered to remember the gender for 99% of them.

Trying to use they/them unless I'm certain.

[left swift]

Anyways so how about that bitcoin eh? Any dogecoiners in the chat

[mental meadow]

The issue is for example people know that a trans person is using she/her, so they refer to her with they/them to seem "inclusive" but just hide that they are not accepting her gender

[quasi valley]

I'd be worried if I didn't remember the gender of the people I talk to often, lol

or at least how I address them

[peak ginkgo]

I think this is super super specific one off example

[mental meadow]

happens a lot

[peak ginkgo]

I thought we were talking about like

In general, right now

[ancient maple]

\

[peak ginkgo]

Because I added pronoun roles to my server and the shit EXPLODED until everyone got their shit together

[ancient maple]

hi which version of java is recomendet to paper 1.16.4

[untold copper]

11

[mental meadow]

11 or higher

[olive marlin]

I'm not talking about people I talk daily with.

[ancient maple]

thx

[untold copper]

np

[slim nymph]

yes that 'could' be a thing, but that would be extremist, and we cant discredit people not doing it with malice for it

[mental meadow]

It is a thing^^ That's why I mentioned it

[slim nymph]

but its not going to be the common reason

[olive marlin]

I know gender of probably less than 10 people here.

[void void]

what does gender fluid mean?

[mental meadow]

No, but if you know someones pronouns, then I see no reason why you shouldn't use them

[void void]

or non-binary

[peak ginkgo]

@void void one day "wow being a girl would be great" the next day (or even hour) "wow i hate being a woman"

[twin lagoon]

god imagine playing anarchy

[peak ginkgo]

let me grab you my bible.

[twin lagoon]

fucking cancer

[peak ginkgo]

https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Nonbinary

I need to get my keybinds setup for these

[past dawn]

community is awful

[void void]

eh if you play with chat turned off and some friends its pretty nice

[twin lagoon]

noticed

[mental meadow]

dejay you need to learn german to check out queer-lexikon.net

[past dawn]

especially the people who pvp

[mental meadow]

I work on that :3

[magic river]

I dunno, I just feel like people are expecting too much out of text chat

[twin lagoon]

you

[peak ginkgo]

testing something

[void void]

they are actual cancer

[peak ginkgo]

?nb

mfw

?nb

https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Nonbinary

there it is

phraseexpress op

[magic river]

If I knew you in person or talked to you on voice all the time and didn't remember your pronouns you could argue I just refused to use them

[quasi valley]

@mental meadow do you have an article or something on genderless articles in german

[worn ember]

I agree. Or reading too much into it

[quasi valley]

or why german is bad

[mental meadow]

?ban @void void Troll

[leaden oxide]

Bad Doggy#7901 was banned | Troll

[magic river]

But I forget half of you exist once I minimize this window 😛

[olive marlin]

Finally lol

[untold copper]

Thank

god

[potent fossil]

thank you for finally doing that

[slim nymph]

In most dialog, gender really has no impact on the conversation, so I see genderless speech as preferred even if you know their gender. If the gender has some factor in the conversation, sure try to use preferred gender there. But I am struggling to really think of a scenario where that would matter.

[potent fossil]

had a timer going

[halcyon bough]

bruh imagine hating anarchy servers

[peak ginkgo]

@twin lagoon

[void void]

theyre the type of ppl to spam eZZZZZ in chat afer murdering someone

[left swift]

What time simp

[warm anchor]

This why Chinese native have issue with she and he

[past dawn]

right i can't die without getting brutally assaulted in chat lmao

[warm anchor]

Coz in the language itself you judge by context

[magic river]

We don't do anything together other than this chat so I'm friendly but I wouldn't say friends with anyone here so that's just not information I remember

[void void]

lmfao

[worn ember]

No u have issues eternity. Ur archon

[potent fossil]

@left swift 9 minutes 43 seconds

[left swift]

Nice

[mental meadow]

I don't think so? Or what exactly are you looking for

[warm anchor]

I can’t hear you ded

[mental meadow]

idk I still had hope

[worn ember]

Same tho cx

[olive garden]

how does hearing someone's voice help? guessing someone's gender based on how deep their voice is could turn out very poorly and you could come off as very rude or as someone that's mocking nonbinary people

[left swift]

What arm thing Cx

[slim nymph]

the more difficult you make the pronoun topic, the more resistance you will get from people adopting it.

[untold copper]

This looks so frighteningly complicated, but its not...

[worn ember]

In all honesty idc what people have as pronoun. If this relevant I'll ask otherwise meh

[halcyon bough]

no it doesnt

[magic river]

@olive garden It's not about their tone or anything, it's about making a personal connection

[quasi valley]

even our professors that have to enforce genderless writing can't tell us how to properly write genderless in German

[twin lagoon]

kneny

[void void]

are you a german?

[warm anchor]

Is that even possible? In German language

[quasi valley]

not really :x

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon

[mental meadow]

I think one of our team made a blog post about that, I'll try finding it for u

[magic river]

Text is impersonal and there are too many people here too active for me to keep track of who is saying what and try to model them as a person

[olive garden]

now imagine the same situation in voice

[mossy vessel]

😂
I have so many mails with genderless stuff used wrongly by non-german lecturers

[olive garden]

you can hardly pair voices to names

[worn ember]

Ur just blobs of text lol

[past dawn]

dont even know if writing genderlessly is acceptable in a grammatical sense for example like a paper

[quasi valley]

lol

[magic river]

In voice this many people wouldn't be a thing

[untold copper]

chat is boomin'

[wide chasm]

I only remember the pronouns for people at the top of the members list, I've got no clue about others

[left swift]

Roleist

[olive garden]

people at the top of the member list tend to have their pronouns after their names

the tendency is undeniable

[void void]

right i dont think you can say they ate because people would think its a group

[magic river]

Voice channels tend to be a dozen or fewer people all actively engaging with each other

[minor badge]

you're so far down the member list, I could never, Stef

[void void]

not a singular person

[past dawn]

yeah

[untold copper]

@wide chasm how do we pronounce your name?

[halcyon bough]

you just do

[wide chasm]

"Stef van Schie" and then make of it what you want ig

[mental meadow]

"stef"

[potent fossil]

stefvanchee is how i say it

[olive marlin]

I'm only sure of Aikar, Mini and Proxi. I think I know more from core team etc, but never sure so always go genderless.

[silent lantern]

lets just call everyone chad

[slim nymph]

i wish discord would add custom css by default, i wanna thin up so much padding, make the memberlist visible more

[untold copper]

oh ok

[silent lantern]

if we have the name we don't need pronouns

[quasi valley]

because it's not as big of a problem in English as in German, which even has gendered articles and gendered affixes for basically all professions

we are obliged to write genderlessly

[untold copper]

I think you can do css shit to discord, just don't know how

[slim nymph]

yeah theres some mods

its just you gotta rerun it every deb install

[past dawn]

oh, cool

[warm anchor]

Client mod is still breaking tos though

[mental meadow]

like reddit used to do it? That would be fun

[untold copper]

wait

[warm anchor]

Discord just sign enforcing it

[untold copper]

I can customize CSS now

[slim nymph]

and since cant inspect desktop client, would be hard to find what the rules are lol

[magic river]

If this was a channel of just people without a table it'd be a small enough group I'd start to keep track of who was saying what but otherwise the only way I'll remember is if you do something outlandish

[slim nymph]

would have to build it on browser one

[untold copper]

Web development les go lololol

[slim nymph]

so already too much effort for me to bother

[untold copper]

Oh aikar did u see half light mode i sent yesterday?

[slim nymph]

thankfully no

[warm anchor]

So it’s a good thing Amaranth doesn’t remember you I see

[olive garden]

"software engineer (m/f/d)" says hi

[slim nymph]

or wait i think i did, i bitched at you for it

[olive garden]

Germans are weird when they make English job posts

[untold copper]

this ^^

[left swift]

Flashbang in the chat

[magic river]

I remember that I've talked to you before but I usually don't remember much about you 😛

[wide chasm]

Eww

[untold copper]

lmao yes

[warm anchor]

Lol

Snoopa I will tell your mom you using light mode

[magic river]

We'd have to do something together

[worn ember]

Bruh

[magic river]

Work on some project, play some games, chat about random bullshit on voice, etc

[left swift]

[past dawn]

my eyes

[mental meadow]

poki

[past dawn]

light mode 😬

[mental meadow]

i'm still not sure if I like poki or not

[olive marlin]

We are not allowed to make backups of our work laptops, but I think mine just died xD

A good way to finish a day of work, I guess.

[left swift]

No one got mad this time conditioning is working

[magic river]

lol. I told them if they made us start using work provided equipment I needed admin/root and ideally needed either a laptop with good support in Linux or a MacBook Pro

So far they haven't said anything else about it

[olive marlin]

I got laptop and installed OS etc myself.

[olive garden]

so phone identification is forced now

thanks for that

[magic river]

What is poki?

[minor badge]

.g pokimane

[olive marlin]

Just can't use ANY not work provided data storage or device.

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Imane Anys, better known by her online alias Pokimane, is a Moroccan-Canadian Internet personality. As a Twitch streamer and YouTuber, Anys is best known for her live streams on Twitch, where she showcases her video gaming experiences, most notably in League of Legends and Fortnite. She is a member of OfflineTV, an online social entertainment group of content creators. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokimane)

[wide chasm]

Since when is the bot called scissors?

[potent fossil]

since lax let xD die and I hosted scissors

[magic river]

Oh, a league streamer

[wide chasm]

Ah I see

[magic river]

No wonder I don't know her, she only plays shit games 😛

[wild escarp]

🤦‍♂️

[magic river]

(I used they/them and had to go back and fix it there)

[wild escarp]

https://i.imgur.com/02u8XQ4.png

[worn ember]

Ah yes LOL game

[left swift]

Daily poki topic

What came after poki

[worn ember]

In dota your character laughs if you type lol

[left swift]

Yesterday

[warm anchor]

What if I call you a simp

[left swift]

Go for it

[worn ember]

Banned from twitch

[warm anchor]

[spare venture]

I mean I only learned who she was a few days ago

[warm anchor]

You’ve lived with blessing

It’s hard to dodge her news I feel

[left swift]

Ppl always wanna drag successful people down

[worn ember]

Cancel culture

[spare venture]

When you’re career depends on exploiting incels and simps, you kinda are asking for a lot of abuse

[left swift]

Party already subbed to incel twitch culture

[woven otter]

Well they exploit themselves

[spare venture]

I’m saying they’re kinda asking for it by involving themselves with those type of people

[void void]

hey guys how do i add custom paintings into a resource pack?

is this a paper-help question?

[spare venture]

Custom paintings or replace old ones

[void void]

i'd like to keep some of the old ones

the girl witht he pig is fancy

[spare venture]

I don’t think you can add new ones currently

[void void]

really? they do it on hermitcraft tho?

[wide chasm]

I think you're referring to maps

[spare venture]

Probably

They can do very similar things

[void void]

hmm no the spray paint it hought?

when grian spray painted bdubs castle last season

[spare venture]

I don’t know what hermitcraft even is but I’m fairly certain you can’t add more paintings

[void void]

can you repalce the old ones then?

[wide chasm]

I haven't seen that episode, but hermitcraft regularly uses maps

[vernal moth]

You can add maps

[spare venture]

But you can add any images to maps

Then put them on item frames

Don’t even need a resource pac

[void void]

oo interesting

[left swift]

Yeah those woman streamers and their streaming games smh ppl so gullible

[void void]

how do you add an image to a map?

you mean by crafting the 32x32 or whatever

takign a map of it

[vernal moth]

There are plugins

[spare venture]

I think she knows what she’s doin nomana

[wide chasm]

You open the map in a place in the world, then you place blocks in that spot of the world to make an image

[vernal moth]

.g imagemap

[spare venture]

You don’t become queen of the simps by accident

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) In HTML and XHTML, an image map is a list of coordinates relating to a specific image, created in order to hyperlink areas of the image to different destinations. For example, a map of the world may have each country hyperlinked to further information about that country. The intention of an image map is to provide an easy way of linking various parts of an image without dividing the image into separate image files. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

[void void]

right yeah

[vernal moth]

.g imagemap spigot

[spare venture]

.g ImageOnMap spigot

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/imagemaps.81851/

(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/imageonmap.26585/

[left swift]

Saying it like shes a titty streamer

[austere ivy]

image on map is based

great plugin

[left swift]

.g pokimane 5$ donation limit

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.thegamer.com/pokimane-limit-donation-five-dollar-twitch/

[spare venture]

That’s just how weirdos on the internet are

[left swift]

How dare she take advantage of simps like dis

[spare venture]

Haha she probably realized the can of worms she opened

[void void]

fools deserve no money anyway

[left swift]

Fools money is government money

[spare venture]

Nomana sounds like one of her simps

[left swift]

[spare venture]

Yep

How much have you donated

[left swift]

0

[spare venture]

Liar

[left swift]

U think I have money

[warm anchor]

I agree to some degree but we as a society need to make sure people like that don’t fall off the crack coz after all if they end up badly or on the street, it’s taxpayers money we are wasting on them

It’s like gambling regulations

[spare venture]

#politics

[void void]

i mean... yeah

[left swift]

School loans be like

[spare venture]

People can spend their money how they want

[warm anchor]

Come on barty that’s not really politic but ok sorry

[spare venture]

It definitely is

[left swift]

Party just being farty

[spare venture]

When you mention taxpayers wasting money on government handouts, you’re barkin up the politics tree

[void void]

i just put the .jar in the plugins folder yeah?

[wide chasm]

Yes

[void void]

yes

i alawys forget if i need to unpack before

kk thanks

lol no wtf

[wide chasm]

Zips need to be unpacked, jars not

[spare venture]

I heard if you unpack it, the server runs better because it doesn’t have to decode the jar

[warm anchor]

[left swift]

[void void]

https://www.techjunkie.com/custom-paintings-in-minecraft/

this is what my gf sent me this morning

[worn ember]

I heard if you jump out of a plane there is no gravity

[void void]

saying i needed to add it to teh server

[spare venture]

Minecraft has 26 available paintings you can use to decorate your buildings in the game. The smallest ones are 16×16 pixels, covering only one block, while the largest ones are 64×64 pixels, covering 4×4 blocks.

[wide chasm]

You can do that, but you'll need to replace paintings, you can't keep all the current ones and add new ones.

[olive garden]

you certainly don't have any weight

[true canyon]

Yeah save on CPU time by unzipping all your jars first! 😄

[spare venture]

If you want to add a custom painting to your Minecraft server, you will have to replace one or all of the original paintings with your new images.

Did she not read it?

[void void]

right replace one or all

tons of paintings in there we don't want

[spare venture]

There ya go

[wide chasm]

You can replace as many as you like

[void void]

so i think instead of adding new plugin might be nicer to just replace

[spare venture]

Maps are better tho IMO

[void void]

why so?

^ curious

[spare venture]

Infinite “paintings” of any size you want

[worn ember]

Infinite lags

[spare venture]

[void void]

yeah right? i run off a micro 6500T

you think the map paintings is intensive?

[woven otter]

@vestal jasper hey vic

[spare venture]

No

It’s not

[wide chasm]

Shouldn't be that much more intensive than regular paintings

[void void]

coool

ill try map plugin first

[vestal jasper]

Hi

[wide chasm]

Hey

[spiral robin]

Vic 😍

[worn ember]

Ah yes Victor

[void void]

ack okay she just wants to edit the painting file and keep it as vanilla as possible

what's the process on that?

does it need to go in my resource pack?

[left swift]

Wonder how many shared hosts will drop paper support in 1.17 or if they will actually move to java 11

[mossy vessel]

Only the irrelevant ones

[left swift]

Yea

[olive marlin]

Can't wait for them to make excuses and telling why Spigot is better than Paper.

[left swift]

Will be interesting to see the numbers split

[mossy vessel]

I wouldn't deny that yet, however, lots of hosts already let you choose nowadays or ship 11 by default.

[slim nymph]

we've already got a significant amount of them here

and on board

its a huge risk to their business to not support us lol

[warm anchor]

I mean for lastest paper is majority anyway

It’s not like they don’t want their customers

[mossy vessel]

False, they just want their money.

[warm anchor]

I mean yeah

[mossy vessel]

Elsewise they wouldn't even refuse to update

[warm anchor]

Them summer host be robbing kids blind

[mossy vessel]

I mean, I haven't seen that yet, but doesn't mean it doesn't exist

[worn ember]

its not like updating a java version is rocket science

nor does it break j8 compat

[mossy vessel]

But if you use a sane host, you're good anyway.

[warm anchor]

Tell that to certain host that add G1GC flag to PS swap

Lol

[worn ember]

it only took me 5 tries

[olive garden]

yes it does... if you run shitty plugins and if your jre doesn't contain javax

[worn ember]

what?

javax is only interfaces tho

why would they remove enterprise interfaces?

[olive garden]

iirc ByteBuffer return types are also fun

[worn ember]

oh yeah those

had to deal witht hose when backporting simplenet to j8 lol

not too bad tho

just had to cast a bunch

[formal turret]

eugh, having to give discord my phone number so i can talk in here smh

[clever widget]

dang

thats

[worn ember]

wat why

[clever widget]

yeah

[olive garden]

oh I think I meant javafx

[worn ember]

lmao

[clever widget]

some server owners decide to be meanies and require you verify your phone before talking

[olive garden]

I might be retarded but I can't import javafx.util.Pair or whatever it is on java 15

[worn ember]

not like any mc plugins use javafx stuff tho

[olive garden]

yeah, they use javafx Pair

[worn ember]

well apart from util classes maybe

[olive garden]

yeah

[formal turret]

well it was fine yesterday dunno what changed today that i had to add my phone

[clever widget]

why does minecraft bedrock use c++ instead of java

[olive garden]

yeah, they changed a server setting

without notice :)

[spare venture]

Yeah we used to do that before we made our server unable to be raided by bots

[clever widget]

yeah id rather not have discord have my phone number but whatever

discord knows enough anyways

[worn ember]

i dont think i ever gave discord my phone number

[spare venture]

They have mine

Never called me

[worn ember]

nvm lmao

[clever widget]

everything that you are into (servers) who you talk to (friends) and what games you play (game detection) and your email and when you are on your computer (idle detection)

discord knows all that

and they can do that because they have no competition

[worn ember]

privacy, whats that?

meh idc if they have my phone number as long as they dont sell it

[clever widget]

discord has like no competition tho

there's teamspeak.....

[worn ember]

skype

[spare venture]

Who cares

[clever widget]

no servers

competition is good

[spare venture]

Use a different software then

There’s plenty

[clever widget]

such as

[spare venture]

Discord is just the most popular

[clever widget]

i havent seen anything else that can do what discord does

[spare venture]

Teamspeak, IRC, mumble, guilded, vent, Skype...

Guilded is literally a clone of discord with way more features lol

[clever widget]

bruh irc looks like beta discord

[spare venture]

There is plenty of competition, discord is just the most popular

[clever widget]

sorry i said that wrong

[worn ember]

idk half of those

[clever widget]

exactly

[spare venture]

You’re just too young then

[formal turret]

only one i didn't know about was guilded lol

[worn ember]

im older than you lmfao

[clever widget]

well i mean ive heard about teamspeak and mumble akd skype but not vent or guilded or irc

[spare venture]

Ded your maturity age is like 12

And no you’re not?

[worn ember]

wtf stop laughing at my disability

[formal turret]

vent is ventrilo

[worn ember]

moddssss

[clever widget]

guilded is literally a discord clone thats it

[spare venture]

Yea with way more features

Use it instead if you don’t like discord

There is competition

[clever widget]

it actually looks like a mod of discord

[spare venture]

You just refuse to use it because it isn’t as popular? Lol

[clever widget]

well if nobody else is using it

[limber knot]

who's a what

[clever widget]

oh god a sentient bot

[olive marlin]

Good robo bot.

I wonder if Matrix could have a bridge to Discord, just how they have to Freenode IRC servers.

[clever widget]

me

internet

imagine not giving any upload speed

cough cough

isp

[limber knot]

some ISPs do match upload with download, I think att is the only one I've seen...

[haughty bear]

hey what happened with phone verification?

[limber knot]

a rare sight tho

[haughty bear]

it was on for a sec

[worn ember]

its either that or lower download lmao

[haughty bear]

now it's gone

[worn ember]

theres only so much bandwidth

[slim nymph]

i turned it off since it was applying to existing members, thought it would be for new members

[clever widget]

im using xfinity

comcast

[haughty bear]

oh alright

[clever widget]

their customer support is SHIT

[visual egret]

this should be sufficient for school google meets

[clever widget]

there isnt even a way to talk to a real person on their site

[limber knot]

just make it sharing your screen

[clever widget]

theres only the useless chatbot

[limber knot]

man up and call

[visual egret]

11mbps is decent

[clever widget]

Bruh

i cant like upload files to the cloud

itll take forever

[visual egret]

deal with it lol

just like most of the population

https://www.speedtest.net/result/10698731431

speed

[clever widget]

also why does EU have cheap internet

[visual egret]

no idea

[clever widget]

you can get like gigabit for 20 usd

up and down

like

No fair

[visual egret]

https://www.speedtest.net/result/10698731431 this is 3 miles from central london

[limber knot]

hooray zoning laws!

[visual egret]

interent spped 10000000

[limber knot]

yay duopoly in every zone

[formal turret]

yay

[mossy vessel]

Imagine having fast internet

[clever widget]

imagine having internet

[mossy vessel]

Welp, fast is relative.

[olive marlin]

This is what I get now for 14$, gets up to 500/40

[clever widget]

Bruh

cheapppp

we pay 80 usd a month for 250 down and 12 up

[next frost]

download is good here

[mossy vessel]

Put PS back in your pants 😠

[mossy vessel]

When you pay thrice as much for https://i.imgur.com/2k3NGtV.png lol

[warm anchor]

$80

[spare venture]

noice

I think gigabit is $75 here

100mb is $30

[mossy vessel]

I like how I can upgrade to fiber without fiber existing in my area

[warm anchor]

"fiber speed"

xD

[clever widget]

Bruh

[olive marlin]

Gigabit is 25$ here

[mossy vessel]

I can upgrade to lots of stuff that doesn't exist in my area lol

[spare venture]

I was wrong it's $65

[clever widget]

why do you have cheap gigiabit :(((

[warm anchor]

I lovethose offer

for shortsighted people

[limber knot]

I told ya dummi

[next frost]

paying 40€ per month, but that was just a very good offer

[warm anchor]

ONE TIME CREDIT

lol

[clever widget]

i want gigabit for cheap :(

[spare venture]

the fine print says no contract and it's a fixed price

[warm anchor]

is it 1 G up and down

[spare venture]

i currently pay for 200mb and they've never changed my price

[warm anchor]

coz a lot of them aint

[spare venture]

prob not

i dont upload much

[limber knot]

idk y ppl need lotso speed anyways unless u got like 10 different movie streams goin on n stuff

[warm anchor]

I fucking love the upload

[true canyon]

Does it have a good client yet? Last time I played with it the recommended web client was so terrible and buggy.

[spare venture]

this is my parent's internet right now, shite

[warm anchor]

makes those video transfer painless

[olive marlin]

90 PLN is less than 25$ rn (and dollar skyrocketed since pandemic lol). 1pln for installation, free modem/router, free tv connection...

[limber knot]

most ppl use a single wifi AP anyways and that's only gonna get to around 150mbps

[spare venture]

yeah europe has cheap internet

we get it

smh

[untold copper]

OWO

I can talk again :D

[clever widget]

bruh if you use the ap built into your modem i will slap you

[warm anchor]

snoopa I will tell your mom what you did to her phone

[untold copper]

Thats my secret

[spare venture]

didnt he get a ransomware from pirating porn

[untold copper]

I did nothing

[warm anchor]

he did

[untold copper]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[spare venture]

[olive marlin]

They want you to use element (formerly riot), but there's official chart of like 10 or so clients, most looking decent.

[mossy vessel]

Sometimes I regret moving into an area with bad internet, but on the other hand, idm since I don't need it that much.

[waxen panther]

[untold copper]

👀

[spare venture]

mfw

[warm anchor]

[olive marlin]

I use ISP AP, because my private one broke lol. But I'm sniping new one on an auction tomorrow.

[spare venture]

investing in a good router is a good idea

[austere ivy]

discord is throwing up on itself

try reading older messages lol

[spare venture]

i bought a $180 one and it is very nice for many devices

[austere ivy]

rip

wait now it works

[olive marlin]

I know people who paid 1K PLN ( 2300 is minimal pay, for reference).

I'm sniping one which is 80$ new, hoping to get it used for 55$.

[slim nymph]

so they paid peanuts

?

[merry talon]

I just bought a wifi 6 one as well

only problem is lack of support for OSS firmware

[olive marlin]

FFS, removed and added back that K lol

[merry talon]

which like none of them have

[olive marlin]

Router for 1000, minimal pay is 2300.

[spare venture]

guy at microcenter told me wifi 6 is worse for devices that don't support it

[stiff yarrow]

I got some overpriced netgear one it works well, I think it had a hip and cool with the kids name like nighthawk or something

[slim nymph]

the high end routers typically have all the features that OSS does for MOST part, so i havent felt need to flash now on current router

[spare venture]

lmao i actually bought the nighthawk

returned it immediately

[stiff yarrow]

oh?

[spare venture]

got an asus instead

[clever widget]

bruh my cat just sneezed

[slim nymph]

i think i have the asus too

[stiff yarrow]

link me the asus one

[void void]

Will you help me?

[slim nymph]

search asus router and find the 200$ + one 😛

[spare venture]

sec i forgot the model number

https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RT-AX3000/

this is the one i have, the older model w/o wifi 6 though

[void void]

1.16.1 / Paper 138

[olive marlin]

I want to get Netgear R6220, there's Openwrt support for it.

[zealous wedge]

@void void

[spare venture]

https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RT-AC86U/

my parents just bought this one, it is solid too

[zealous wedge]

that version is no longer supported, also #paper-help

[void void]

so I have to give another version?

[slim nymph]

yes 1.16.4

[void void]

1.16.4?

[spare venture]

microcenter guy specifically told me to not get wifi 6 one if i had devices that don't support it

[zealous wedge]

why wouldn't you get the newer one, any reasons besides cost?

[olive marlin]

Yeah, I also heard it has issues.

[zealous wedge]

ah oof

[untold copper]

my router is a nokia one

[void void]

and if I give it, it will be like on 1.16.1?

[spare venture]

well i bought the old one when it was new

[magic river]

Are there any wifi 6 routers with dd-wrt support?

[spare venture]

before the router had wifi 6

[slim nymph]

um yes updates usually are still the same minecraft game @void void

always use latest

its not going to turn into call of duty

[warm anchor]

I mean his server died coz of ticking bees

[olive marlin]

I'll leave lot of stuff on the old AP, will bridge it with the new one and have it create different WiFi network.

[spare venture]

asus routers have treated me very nicely, every time i go to microcenter they always recommend asus too

[void void]

uh, okay. I'm going to replace the server.jar file with server.jar 1.16.4

[waxen panther]

how much they paying microcenter

[spare venture]

might fuck around and get this router

[slim nymph]

lol wtf is that

[spare venture]

https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/Blue-Cave/

[formal turret]

if dyson made a router

[visual egret]

the whole router

[olive garden]

If anyone knows how to import stuff in the com.sun.tools.javac.api package in Java 9+ I would appreciate some help. com.sun.source.util works fine, but that package doesn't :/

[void void]

lol the whole router XDD

[slim nymph]

its prob removed trig

[worn ember]

f

[slim nymph]

not supposoe to touch sun stuff

[olive garden]

well, I need it for a javac plugin

it's in JAVA_HOME/lib/src.zip

[slim nymph]

just stop doing what your doing, sounds dumb

[warm anchor]

I am convinced if the center also is a dyson fan yes

[olive garden]

in fact, it's under src.zip\jdk.compiler\com\sun\tools\javac\api

no

[spare venture]

honestly that would be pretty cool if your router was also a fan

[warm anchor]

xDD

[slim nymph]

just invoke maven or gradle

[olive garden]

?

[warm anchor]

GOD DAMNIT WHO MOVED THE FAN NOW I DONT HAVE INTERNET

lol

[clever widget]

wat

[olive garden]

I need to be able to do AST modifications

[worn ember]

ah yes the Dy son sphere

[warm anchor]

Ded joke alert

[slim nymph]

yall think of fans for dyson? i think of vacuum cleaner

https://giphy.com/gifs/magic-dyson-vacuums-YqAyZCAJeErn2

[warm anchor]

that gif physically pain me

[worn ember]

Roomba router

[warm anchor]

why do you want to block information from player

[spare venture]

pistonmotd

[hidden hill]

I want to insert my text about the benefits of the server there.

[warm anchor]

how about no....? that's MOTD

[spare venture]

@warm anchor a lot of people do that

[potent fossil]

yeah its not uncommon at all

[warm anchor]

blocking real online count??

[spare venture]

no

[warm anchor]

I thought that's what he wanted lol

[spare venture]

this

the hover message

[void void]

And I have one more question. If I replace this server.jar file from 1.16.1 to 1.16.4, will I lose my world and everything will be over?

[potent fossil]

the count is shown, but when you hover it instead of names it can show anything, like maybe "join x other players in the adventure" or something

[warm anchor]

this goes to show I dont play minecraft lol

I did not know that exist omg

[warm anchor]

sick MOTD though. Simple and get to the point

[void void]

What?

[twin lagoon]

read it

[clever widget]

lol

[warm anchor]

has time to take screenshot
No time to read.

[clever widget]

read the error

[warm anchor]

[spare venture]

thanks 😄

[void void]

I cant change Java version... Pterodactyl panel...

[hidden hill]

Geopolitical Earth? Do you use Towny?

[slim nymph]

i thought you rebranding was a meme barty lol

[spare venture]

'twas not aikar

[slim nymph]

did you rebrand or start a new server

[warm anchor]

PartyMC sounds more fun

Barty is poo poo

[potent fossil]

if you pay for a hosting service elsewhere, then ignore the message. the host will update java when 1.17 gets closer, assuming it's a good host.

[unkempt drift]

Wait, you were serious about PartyMC? I too thought it was just a meme.

[worn ember]

[spare venture]

it is no longer a meme

its a new server

[meager tusk]

PartyMC

[void void]

okay.

[warm anchor]

barty's rep makes it so everything he does no one know if serious or meme

[worn ember]

relatable

[void void]

thx all for help

[spare venture]

me and all my friends

[sand epoch]

nice

[potent fossil]

[worn ember]

lol did you recreate the server list on your site?

[potent fossil]

mfw it looks exactly like bartyrealms

but switch b for p

[warm anchor]

that was the joke

[slim nymph]

did you like make a font for the logo?

[worn ember]

he just turned the b upside down

[potent fossil]

i mean it's the exact same logo lmao

[spare venture]

no i just turned the B into a P

[warm anchor]

LOL

[potent fossil]

smfh

[spare venture]

paint.net skills

[slim nymph]

how do you do that logo in header? font right?

[spare venture]

yeah

[stiff yarrow]

My roomba always power cycles? my router when it goes near it

[slim nymph]

is that like a shitload of characters or can you control size some how

[worn ember]

oooh i thought that was the website and the copied the playerlist on the site

[spare venture]

it's 1 character, you can make the size up to 512 pixels i think? i forget

[formal turret]

if its 512x512 it can be one character

[unkempt drift]

You can do crazy stuff with fonts aikar.

[worn ember]

fonts are weird

[warm anchor]

I'd be concerned tbh. That roomba planning on something!

[spare venture]

https://streamable.com/g755s1
yeah like this

what?

[unkempt drift]

I made this a while ago

[formal turret]

he's getting philosophical

[spare venture]

titles are pretty cool

thats a lot of images tho

[stiff yarrow]

tons of software bugs attributed to vacuums in history

[slim nymph]

howd you get the back of all the slots like that?

[spare venture]

sec

[clever widget]

..

[spare venture]

fonts on top of them

[warm anchor]

inb4 Aikar backporting it to EMC

xD

[worn ember]

aikar at empiremc: hey guys so today we gonna use a new resource pack

[warm anchor]

that does looks nice

[spare venture]

ty it took some annoying effort

[void void]

THANK YOU ALL!!! I changed to 1.16.4 and I have no lag !!

[slim nymph]

what do you mean on top of them, is in the title of the window is so large it covers it?

[formal turret]

the image is on a higher layer than the screen so it covers the slots

[spare venture]

^

[slim nymph]

but where is the image sent

[spare venture]

inventory title

[slim nymph]

thats what i asked 😛

[spare venture]

oh

[unkempt drift]

well the client gets it in the resource pack

[formal turret]

o

[unkempt drift]

as a font character

[spare venture]

yeah without the resource pack its just spooky unicode

[unkempt drift]

and so you just make the title of the inventory that character

[worn ember]

people who dont accept resource packs: nani

[spare venture]

well they don't have to use our resource pack, the server will just suck without it

[worn ember]

ban them if they reject

ez

[spare venture]

nah i let them enable it on their own

[hidden hill]

thanks for the advice

[spare venture]

they are reminded with titles every time they login if they don't have it on tho

[clever widget]

Minceraft

[spare venture]

they can disable the reminder ofc

[clever widget]

craftmince

[spare venture]

lovely

[magic river]

Is that tagalog?

[true canyon]

bartalog

[stiff yarrow]

bortycraft

[spare venture]

myanmar

i like it because its \u1000

[untold copper]

So party mc isn't a joke

[stiff yarrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TVTooHigh/ this sub is my new pleasure

[spare venture]

well, some might think it's a joke

[limber knot]

you'd think it was, but the more u talk 2 barty, the less joke-y he gets

[spare venture]

wat

[unkempt drift]

best way to get new players? offer op to all who join 🙂

[limber knot]

I do that in the ping event

[spare venture]

tiddy pics

[limber knot]

ppl join and then become confused why they don't have op

[hidden hill]

Does pistonMOTD work with 1.15 servers?

[spare venture]

no idea

[peak ginkgo]

???

[peak ginkgo]

Probably.

[spare venture]

that's what i offer to attract players

[untold copper]

party

barty*

does ur server got voting?

[hidden hill]

thank you

[spare venture]

yes

my server will be the very best

[untold copper]

👀

[limber knot]

like everyone ever was

[spare venture]

ty

[visual egret]

party how do you do this?

[spare venture]

do what

[visual egret]

make the resourcepacks etc

[spare venture]

my hands

[limber knot]

basically

[spare venture]

tap tapping on the keyboard

[visual egret]

how do you find the characters and stuff to do it?

[limber knot]

resource pack stuff is fun but very very tedious

[spare venture]

my brain

[visual egret]

that doesent help...

[spare venture]

did i say i was trying to be helpful

[limber knot]

when you do cool sound stuff maybe I'll be interested

until then, idc about font dummness

[spare venture]

ur saying its not cool 😭

[visual egret]

its very cool

[limber knot]

tho the pack I have uses comic sans so there is that

[visual egret]

i want to learn how to do it

[limber knot]

my pack is open source c:

[spare venture]

all packs are open source

[limber knot]

some are more open than others

[spare venture]

https://i.gyazo.com/51128823a523b204638aa68929b39942.mp4

this is cool too

yeah iirc originwelmz's pack uses some trickery to make it harder

oskar there aren't really any good guides, you kinda just have to learn it

[cosmic raft]

morning

[spare venture]

hi kashike

[quasi valley]

evening

[spare venture]

can i have my roles back

[stiff yarrow]

you had roles?

[cosmic raft]

fuck off

[spare venture]

look at my avatar

[untold copper]

gm

[spare venture]

no u fuck off

jerk 😭

[cunning raft]

telling admin to fuck off

[cosmic raft]

I don't even know who you are

[meager tusk]

[cosmic raft]

so no idea what roles you had, if any

[spare venture]

o

ok

[limber knot]

told ya, kashike focused on what he does and almost nothing else

[stiff yarrow]

hes borty admin of bortdimension

[olive marlin]

Probably one of those trolls from 6b6t

[woven otter]

no

that's barty

[spare venture]

kash is to cool to notice me 😦

happy

[cunning raft]

it's cuz you change ur name every 3 days dumbo

and pfp

[spare venture]

meany

[meager tusk]

may I ask what resolution that texture is?

[spare venture]

i have changed my name 3 times in the past 3 years jroy

[cosmic raft]

you just changed your fucking name again

[spare venture]

16x16

i changed it back because you didn't know who i was

i went barty -> party -> partymc -> party

[meager tusk]

I'm talking about the font character for the menu title

[spare venture]

oh

[twin lagoon]

helo kashik

[limber knot]

just be arty

[meager tusk]

Michale

[twin lagoon]

idriz

[spare venture]

thats the image

[robust tiger]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-earth-coming-end

[cunning raft]

rip

[robust tiger]

i forgot this game existed

[cunning raft]

that was shortlived

covid didn't help

[meager tusk]

thank you

[spare venture]

wasnt it just pokemon go but minecraft

[stiff yarrow]

I also forgt this was a game

but I'm not big on AR stuff

[cosmic raft]

It's a shame, stupid covid did not help with that at all

[robust tiger]

yeah

nobody can blame them

[spare venture]

not my cup of tea but sad to see its closing

[stiff yarrow]

anyone play it?

[cunning raft]

n

[robust tiger]

i played it at the beginning

[zealous wedge]

i downloaded it

[robust tiger]

when it was still in beta

[stiff yarrow]

maybe its a terrible game then

[zealous wedge]

but never managed to get outside to play it

[robust tiger]

same

[quasi valley]

it seemed nice

[zealous wedge]

i also never got super into pokemon go

[robust tiger]

i just wandered around my house

[zealous wedge]

yeah, it was a neat concept

[spare venture]

i dont like the idea of those games tbh. i liked pokemon go for a couple weeks but it wasn't that good of a game

[quasi valley]

but like, going outside rn

[stiff yarrow]

I tried pokemon go and got bored within 5 minutes

[spare venture]

^

[olive marlin]

Ingress was way better.

[slim nymph]

pokemon was boring, ingress ftw

[warm anchor]

I mean you can’t really go out

[zealous wedge]

pokemon go is fun when you can play with friends

[spare venture]

there's like nothin to do but just walk around and catch pokemon

[robust tiger]

i just dont like those type of games

[slim nymph]

PvP AR is more fun

[warm anchor]

Ingress is too nerdy for mainstream

[zealous wedge]

all the music kids at school would go to raids near my building

[cunning raft]

cool concept that probably would have benefited from influencer promotion from dream or so

[warm anchor]

I too agree ingress is better

[cunning raft]

but alas, covid

[olive marlin]

All later games (pokemon, Harry Potter etc) sucked.

[spare venture]

yeah i never did raids, the game was super shallow

you probably needed a group of friends that all did it

[peak ginkgo]

friends

:(

[spare venture]

i just did it while i would go on runs and it was kinda fun

but i ended up just deleting the app because it made it more annoying

[stiff yarrow]

I used to walk everyday but then covid

[zealous wedge]

i'd get a lot from playing on the bus

[spare venture]

i dont know how i havent gotten covid tbh, i have been exposed a lot but always tested negative

[mossy vessel]

Pokemon go was fun... the first few days.

[spare venture]

i was at a bar with my friends and another one of our friends showed up unexpectedly and sat down next to me, she said 'sorry i have a mask on, i tested positive for covid two days ago'. 30 seconds later her mask was off. turned out half of the people at the table couldn't taste or smell at the time either

[worn ember]

lmao yikes

[formal turret]

oh man the self awareness!

[stiff yarrow]

What kind of tests though? The fast result ones have a lot of false negatives

Have you had an antibody test?

[spare venture]

mostly saliva tests, and no i have not

[warm anchor]

It was fun until kids party joining in then it’s no longer cool

[spare venture]

i have never had symptoms and got tested weekly for the past 5 months

[mossy vessel]

Lol

I don't really play phone games

[stiff yarrow]

You may have had it and been asymptomatic

[spare venture]

perhaps

[mossy vessel]

Kinda impacts me while driving 🥴

[spare venture]

but i've tested negative every single week for the past 5 months, some were saliva, some were nasal swab

[stiff yarrow]

Those tests help but they aren’t fool proof

[olive marlin]

Half of my family got it, all my room mates got it.

[spare venture]

mhm

[olive marlin]

I didn't.

[spare venture]

odds are if i had it i would've tested positive

[olive marlin]

I had anti body tests negative.

[spare venture]

i've been exposed many times more than that

[stiff yarrow]

Can’t really know if you never got it without an antibody test, and I’m not sure how well those tests work tbh

[spare venture]

hit someone's puffbar, then after they tell me "oh yeah i can't taste or smell btw"

[formal forge]

He claimed, that after banning his friend for building tons of swastikas all over the server, my Admin a 40 year old man would have killed him and took all his chests and what so ever.

We have proof that my Admin did not do it. And we told him that in a Neutral way.

That is his response xD
Am i the only Server Owner that faces so many toxic/annoying players that constantly Ping you, demand stuff and just spam unnecessary messages?
They also keep lying, "I died and lost my whole Netherite armor" etc etc

[olive marlin]

Didn't do full (whatever the name was), cause I ain't paying 200$ if I didn't have other symptoms.

[spare venture]

antibody test only tells you if you recently had it

[stiff yarrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/kqwn6c/egypt_entire_icu_ward_dies_after_oxygen_supply/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf wow

[spare venture]

jesus

[potent fossil]

:/

[spare venture]

my friends were at the browns game this weekend and they went to a bar after that was packed with wall to wall people and 0 masks

[olive marlin]

They can't tell for more than first week barty, but later the IgG last a few months (tested on my cousin who had it).

[spare venture]

ffs

yeah 90 days iirc

then you can be reinfected

[stiff yarrow]

I’m inside more than ever, ever since November 1st I almost never go out been paranoid af

[spare venture]

some vaccines are estimated to give 2 years of immunity

[olive marlin]

There's a lot of uncertainty around the exact time, but yes.

[stiff yarrow]

Even that is a big we don’t know

[spare venture]

yeah

just estimates

they do know from testing its like 6 months immunity minimum

[stiff yarrow]

It could give 5+ years and we wouldn’t know

[hoary flicker]

does anyone recommend any economy plugin for 1.16.4 that has multiverse support?

or grouping balances by worlds or preventing inter-world money sending

[spare venture]

we're gonna be dealing with this damn virus for so long

[stiff yarrow]

I feel so bad for kids growing up

[olive marlin]

I tested myself and had neither igM nor IgG. For a test that supposedly has 98.7% rate of detecting it.

[stiff yarrow]

Climate change and a pandemic ruining everything

[spare venture]

our abuse of nature led to this pandemic

[untold copper]

humans are cancer

[spare venture]

gotta learn to be more sustainable as a species

[twin lagoon]

correct snoopa

[olive marlin]

Michael

[visual egret]

snoopa has a realisation

[spare venture]

nature has been a great buffer/reservoir of viruses keeping them away from us, remove nature, viruses end up going somewhere

[twin lagoon]

bloodstone

[spare venture]

damn tragedy of the commons

[stiff yarrow]

I mean once a disease is in a flying creature its gonna be pretty hard to contain to just the wilderness

[peak ginkgo]

Michael!

[spare venture]

well, if you leave their habitat there and leave it alone they don't have to leave the wilderness

that's the idea generally anyway

displace the animals, you're also displacing the diseases they carry

[stiff yarrow]

if its infectious enough we're likely going to have contact with it one day though

[twin lagoon]

dejay

[spare venture]

maybe

[dim kelp]

Anybody can help me to setup my votifier and voting plugin? I'm using PaperSpigot 1.16.4 but it seem the test vote won't work or even the votifier....

[formal turret]

i've got a friend who says he's tested positive 3 times now lol

[spare venture]

lot of diseases in jungles especially that don't generally leave the jungle unless the jungle is destroyed

need to stop destroying nature

[stiff yarrow]

tbh I think our pandemic game was weak, we hadn't had one in a while after all