general

[next frost]

it's either plugins performing bad or too much stuff going on on the server in general

[untold copper]

yes

[rare otter]

Our problem is that we have a cpu EPYC that is going super bad

Users?

[spiral robin]

0

[rare otter]

xd

[olive garden]

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/9/gctuning/garbage-first-garbage-collector-tuning.htm#JSGCT-GUID-4914A8D4-DE41-4250-B68E-816B58D4E278
Section "Tuning for Latency"

[untold copper]

10-15

[untold copper]

shut 👀

[ashen cliff]

A yes EPYC. Bump that power limit by 25W.

[coarse lily]

I'd start with 10-12GB and see how things perform.

If you have a plugin (or four) that are performing very badly then replace/remove them and adjust from there.

A properly tuned server shouldn't need a lot of RAM. It's when you slap a bunch of crappy plugins together that things start to tank. But increasing the RAM then only masks the problem for a while.

[limber knot]

For 100 users, I'd probably just jump straight to 16GB memory, and you should not need to go over 24GB at absolute most (aim for 16GB, that is PLENTY)

[untold copper]

yes that

[olive garden]

The issue with huge amounts of RAM is that Aikar's flags set the new gen space in percentages, which overrides the max pause millis according to the docs. And the young gen GC time is proportional to the new gen space, so at some point young gen can take too much time if you give your server too much RAM and use Aikar's flags. But I am no expert at all, I haven't done the amount of investigating Aikar has.

So I might as well as @slim nymph, how come you set the new gen size explicitly instead of letting G1GC do that based on MaxGCPauseMillis and runtime metrics?

while we are at it, how much RAM for 400 users?

lol

[ashen cliff]

Still 16GB.

[coarse lily]

Pretty sure he's on vacation for a while and pinging staff isn't a good idea in general.

[ashen cliff]

Since at 400 players, they aren't playing Survival.

[olive garden]

The rules state don't ping them for no reason last time I checked

[limber knot]

Also switch away from an EPYC; they are great CPUs, but not for this. Rather, consider a Ryzen 3900X/3950X (properly configured, i.e., good memory!), or a Xeon 2288G (still good memory speeds recommended, though)

That's a completely fine ping ^^

[coarse lily]

Fair enough! You're the boss :)

[rare otter]

In fact we will buy that dedicated

http://prntscr.com/wfudwk

[untold copper]

Proxi Approved™️

[rare otter]

But we will change it to SSD

[limber knot]

That's a good machine. I'd still recommend you keep an NVMe drive for the game (you said you run an SMP, right? that'll definitely benefit), but a good ol' SATA SSD should still be fine

[rare otter]

So reading 16G of ram on both sides I imagine? with the aikar flags in xms and xmx?

[limber knot]

Yeah, Aikar's flags with 16GB heap should be plenty

[untold copper]

I want 16gb ram someday

[ashen cliff]

Just buy it?

Cheap memory is cheap.

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/fever-sick-flu-parks-and-rec-everything-hurts-gif-13000521

[olive garden]

isn't it like $10/GB?

not that cheap

[ashen cliff]

Bruh.

[limber knot]

16GB memory on a machine is like minimum ngl

[spiral robin]

An average evening for kashike I see

[rare otter]

I will try with 16G of ram instead of 65 because I see that with too much ram you can basically fuck up everything

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-01-04_10-37-38.png

No idea how TF you got $10/GB.

[olive garden]

what

[untold copper]

what

u wack

[cosmic raft]

@spiral robin yea

[olive garden]

I guess I bought RAM at the wrong time lmao

[untold copper]

kash put me outta my timeout 🥺

[cedar spade]

oof

[cosmic raft]

!mute @untold copper 5m

[hidden bone]

kashike#8590 muted Mr. Snipa#5026 for 5 minutes. Reason: no reason given

[cosmic raft]

[rare otter]

But I still doubt what happens if a 64G server instead of 64g you put 128G but you can not use all that may be that the processor is not enough?

[cosmic raft]

bah

[ashen cliff]

It's a software lock.

[rare otter]

Michael recommended me to buy 64G which was enough that 128G was too much

[ashen cliff]

So:
Won't boot,
Won't show all the memory,
Will show the memory, but won't be usable.

[limber knot]

If you tell it to use 128GB, it'll crash when it goes over 64GB as there is no more memory to use 🤷‍♀️

[olive garden]

Doesn't it instantly crash because of the AlwaysPreTouch flag?

[rare otter]

Okay we will try with the 64G 16G for survival, 2g for bungee, 5g for lobby and skywars I don't know how many G's to assign the truth xd

[limber knot]

mm it should

But not everyone uses that flag, especially with such large heaps

[ashen cliff]

Just assign 127TB.

[limber knot]

Stop flexing your infinite memory, krusic

[ashen cliff]

[rare otter]

I would like to know if the configuration of aikars flags for survival would be right now with the 16G of ram or what could change?

java -Xms16G -Xmx16G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=16M -XX:G1ReservePercent=15 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=20 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs/ -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar server.jar

[next frost]

just use a hdd for swapping

[untold copper]

krusic is invincibal

[untold copper]

reeee

[next frost]

that looks fine, just see how well it works and bring back timings if it doesn't work well

[untold copper]

how does this reply thing look in irc

[cosmic raft]

then stop harassing me about roles

i won't be as nice next time

[limber knot]

10:45:17 Reply to "kashike: !mute @untold copper 5m"

10:45:18 <M​r.​ S​no​op​a> reeee

[untold copper]

interesting

[untold copper]

alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTCQw5JNquY interesting video just saying

[spiral robin]

[ashen cliff]

So just slavery and capitalism?

[untold copper]

Exploitation, Abuse And Deception as well

and scamming

[ashen cliff]

That's included in capitalism.

[spiral robin]

The thumbnail saved me from watching the video

[untold copper]

yes, in that case "just" slavery and capitalism

[untold copper]

srsly its interesting

[wide chasm]

It's clickbait

It's nothing more than a couple of dumb people investing in servers that either don't exist or exist for not longer than a week.

[untold copper]

p2w

[ashen cliff]

Tho, we can't ignore the fake factions servers showing up, promising big money, then vanishing.

[untold copper]

gambling (kinda)

[meager tusk]

it's basically "eula noo stop selling ranks you aren't supposed to make a profit "

this topic sucks

[untold copper]

lol yes

[spiral robin]

@meager tusk

[meager tusk]

@spiral robin

[untold copper]

idriz where you from?

[meager tusk]

[wide chasm]

The people behind those servers are dicks, but you're really stupid if you invest in a server that doesn't exist

[limber knot]

idriz the kosovo ceo 😳

[ashen cliff]

There are people breaking the EULA,
and there are people stealing money from kids.

[meager tusk]

Factions servers are dying out, thankfully

[untold copper]

I never understood how to play facions

🤷‍♂️

[meager tusk]

I did, for a time

[cedar spade]

It's all about the guilds nowadays

||ok Glare pay up||

[meager tusk]

until they added 500 rules about what you can and can't do

so i just stopped

[untold copper]

lol

I like skyblocc

[meager tusk]

that was 2015-ish

[ashen cliff]

Well, legit factions server are.
The non legit servers that just exist to steal money, still exist.
They pay for discord spam on bigger servers, somehow get 10k users in 1 day.

Thank You Discord.

[untold copper]

Dumcord yay

[cedar spade]

Don't forget all those factions "core" plugins, which do... everything except core faction functionality

[meager tusk]

yeah just a bad gamemode now

[untold copper]

ok i gtg to study bai

[meager tusk]

rather it's been ruined

used to be a little fun

[untold copper]

favorite gamemode?

[meager tusk]

none

[untold copper]

skyblocc

[ashen cliff]

Being AFK in the lobby.

[untold copper]

lmao

[wide chasm]

I used to play prison on a prison server sometimes for two hours, then I realized that prison means literally grinding forever

[untold copper]

never understood how to play prisons either

[wide chasm]

You don't play, you grind

You keep doing that forever

[ashen cliff]

Grind or pay.

[wide chasm]

Imagine Minecraft, but you you remove the craft part

[meager tusk]

there were some prison servers where

after you hit the last rank

they'd let you play on the overworld

[untold copper]

wow thats a bad gamemode

like

why

[wide chasm]

Yeah, I think I managed to get out of one of those, but at that point, what's the point of doing the prison part, just let me play survival?

[meager tusk]

Yeah

[ashen cliff]

We somehow managed to get "full" Vanilla working again.
Looks like out players got tired of economy and people flexing with their MC money.

[meager tusk]

most people just want a place to play with their friends

SMPs and the like

[wide chasm]

One had a plot world with a shop, and the higher the rank, the more valuable stuff you'd mine and the more valuable stuff you could buy. At least that one sort of had incentive to mine, but there wasn't really anything you could do on the plots other than build.

[ashen cliff]

There are no Friends in/on Balkan my friend.

[meager tusk]

balkan brother?

[ashen cliff]

brother

[cedar spade]

I repeat

[meager tusk]

yeah you're right

[olive garden]

krusic, are you the one who's using ZGC?

[meager tusk]

balkans hate each other

[cedar spade]

Imagine having an economy on your server

[meager tusk]

[ashen cliff]

I am.

[untold copper]

wow that is not a bad idea

not a bad idea at all....

[olive garden]

how is it going?

[untold copper]

who me?

good good

wbu

[cedar spade]

yes snoopa, how is zgc going

[untold copper]

the hell's that

[ashen cliff]

Everything but Survival is still on ZGC.
Survival had to be set to G1, due to someones 🗑️ plugin doing stupid stuff.
Vanilla is still happy with ZGC and daily restarts.

Bungee is also on ZGC AFAIK. Also fine.

[untold copper]

what is ZGC?

[olive garden]

Oh, does ZGC not perform well when the allocation rate is above some critical value?

[topaz mortar]

Z garbage collector

[untold copper]

what's that do

[next frost]

it collects garbage

[untold copper]

oh

ok

[ashen cliff]

At that point it just becomes G1.

[next frost]

allocation stall?

[ashen cliff]

Not even stalls, just random lag, nothing in the GC logs.

[next frost]

uh interesting

[ashen cliff]

Removing some plugins fixed the issue, but I didn't want to debug it since I just switched it to G1.

[next frost]

running with DisableExplicitGC?

[ashen cliff]

Always.

[olive garden]

Interesting... shows that I don't really know much about ZGC
What about Shenandoah, have you tried it?

[ashen cliff]

As far as I tested it, same issue as with ZGC.

But the performance is between (working) ZGC and G1.

[olive garden]

I see! Thanks for the insights :)

[olive marlin]

Nothing beats epsilonGC and restarting when memory fills up /s

[olive garden]

fixes memory leaks

[ashen cliff]

And teach people on how to use SQL Limits.

Oh yeah, let me just GET ALL 360k LINES.

[olive garden]

lmao

[rare otter]

krusic could you check above what happens to the aikars flags and tell me as an idea I can leave or remove?

[golden gust]

I've not ran a server on the past few releases because running a server is for sane people, but, basically, I have yeeet to deal with having to reboot a server in years

[cedar spade]

"Wait you mean you don't request the entire table then filter in code!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?"

[ashen cliff]

Just leave his flags as is.
You can add some debugging flags if you are using JDK14+.

[golden gust]

Like, even as somebody who only runs servers for testing, I still forget to close shit

[cedar spade]

running a server is for sane people,
👀

[golden gust]

I mean

people who aren't dead

such is my mental capacity these past... this past year

[cedar spade]

Fair

[ashen cliff]

-XX:-OmitStackTraceInFastThrow
-XX:+ShowCodeDetailsInExceptionMessages

Best flags.

[golden gust]

ZGC issue is MCs high allocation rate

It really does not deal too well with the shitfest that is MC

[next frost]

depends

[golden gust]

most of the people doing well with it seem to have just happened to find the memory balance between their CPU being able to keep up, having enough ram to not stall out all the time, and having not enough ram that it runs often enough with a small enough crud in the heap to deal with

[ashen cliff]

The shitfest that are MC plugins. *

[golden gust]

plugins just add onto the shitfest which pushes ZGC into an odd-ball direction

Biggest fuck off with ZGC is that it hides when it's hurting you in the GC stats

it'll just randomly stall threads allocating memory, and guess which of the few threads on the server allocate literally hundreds of MB/s

[next frost]

that's not hidden in the stats tho?

[golden gust]

yes, that is hidden in the stats

[ashen cliff]

We count stats as hidden.

[golden gust]

You have to check your actual GC logs to see when it's only stalling individual threads vs doing a full sweep

[next frost]

well yes

[untold copper]

if i do ping hypixel.net is it server ping or the domain hosting ping?

[mossy vessel]

They'll swat you

[minor badge]

ICMP ping

[spiral robin]

[golden gust]

by 'stats', I more mean the GC bean

the thing which timings displays which makes it easy to see when GC is kicking your ass

with G1, that's pretty easy, as the stats show up properly

[minor badge]

MC implicitly does port 25565, web implicitly does 80/443, and CF Spectrum (as I believeee they use) can route those differently

[next frost]

fair

[golden gust]

with ZGC, it's pretty hard to say as that only covers global events

[minor badge]

and ICMP is 43 or some shit

7 actually

43 was WHOIS it seems

[golden gust]

ICMP doesn't have a port

ICMP is just a rando network protocol akin to TCP, UDP, etc

[ancient bolt]

ZGC is phenomenal for webservers, big tomcat instances, etc, and for high memory throughput applications it's probably the best in the world. It just doesn't have the latency characteristics needed for a near-real-time server like MC

[minor badge]

well it commonly uses port 7 then :p

[golden gust]

ICMP does not have the concept of ports

[coarse lily]

Yeah ICMP is just chillin’ by itself

[ancient bolt]

Port 7 is echo which is basically a ping but on TCP or UDP

Whereas ICMP is at the same level as TCP and UDP

[golden gust]

Gotta love networking

[coarse lily]

IIRC ICMP is protocol 1 and TCP is 6

UDP is like 10 or something.

[golden gust]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IP_protocol_numbers

[coarse lily]

IP is fun.

[minor badge]

ic

[next frost]

mp

[minor badge]

One day I should take a networking course 😆

[coarse lily]

Damn UDP is 17. 2/3 ain’t bad.

I read some networking books once.

Once upon a time I was a network tech.

[golden gust]

I triiied to do a CCNA course but basically ended up fobbing it off as I didn't have internet at home to do a bunch of stuff like the online course stuff

[coarse lily]

I kinda miss cabling servers all neatly

[golden gust]

Pretty sure I still got the cert though :L

We had a class where we all made patch cables

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-face-im-right-im-on-the-verge-of-nervous-breakdown-nervous-breakdown-gif-4425233

[golden gust]

first time baby

[twin lagoon]

kashike

proxi

[coarse lily]

I don’t miss pulling all nighters to rack like 200 servers in one day.

That part was less fun.

[golden gust]

Tbqf, I did use to wire switchboards, so dealing with stupid cable crimping is part of my skills

[ancient bolt]

My final exam for a networking class was to write an essay (in class without references) explaining in extreme detail the entire lifetime and everything that happens for a single packet to go from some source to a destination, going over every protocol that wraps the data, all the fields and the values for each field, etc etc. Was...tons of.... fun.....

[coarse lily]

Yeah it seems like some folks are good at it and some are awful. A good lunch tool makes the difference

[golden gust]

that sounds like total ass

[coarse lily]

Oof

It’s good to understand the subsystems of stuff. But not in a slogging sort of way.

[golden gust]

I think a heavy part of keeping it neat is a level of dedication and skill

[coarse lily]

Also kashike I hope you don’t have a nervous breakdown, buddy.

[ancient bolt]

Literally took the full 2 or 3 or w/e hours of the exam lol

[golden gust]

Like, we had some typical house sparky and vs all the untrained people, his wiring was fucking atrocious

I was the only one on the shop floor who could work from actual wiring diagrams vs pretty component based layouts

[ancient bolt]

I have a friend that took down a very large (billion dollar) mortgage company's backend system because it was all in AWS and they never named the single firewall rule they used for every single server in their AWS deployment from the default temp name, and when he was debugging something he deleted the firewall to make sure that wasn't causing the issues, not realizing it was the production firewall for the whole system.

Later they asked of he needed training on CIDR and he was like "I have a networking cert from cisco, probably not"

But yeah they wanted to blame him if it wasn't for someone higher up who shut that down as soon as he saw what the firewall was actually named

He was like "oh yeah, wtf, I'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner"

[golden gust]

oof

[cosmic raft]

yea because changing something from the default name is tooooooootally required

[ancient bolt]

I mean, it's pretty damn important if you want to actually maintain anything

[ashen cliff]

Hardcoded IPs.

[olive marlin]

"Why did you change IP? Previous was easier to remember"

[ashen cliff]

Why aren't we using domains?

Because they are public.

[olive marlin]

We have internal DNS for the company and the same one is used the project. The project network is isolated from the rest of company. My PM asked me if the fact that the sub domain DNS entries are available in the rest of the company is a security issue.

[mossy vessel]

What kind of advertising it that

[waxen panther]

4weird

mods !!!

[golden gust]

?ban @void void Not the place to advertise

[leaden oxide]

Bryandion12#7824 was banned | Not the place to advertise

[waxen panther]

cat moment

[olive marlin]

I was thinking about pinging mods, but figured someone will notice, it's not crucial to act immediately.

[mossy vessel]

Saw Cat already typing

[olive marlin]

I had the mention message before you two typed.

[viral hornet]

@twin lagoon

[golden gust]

I just wanted to see if they'd even spoke before, apparently not

[mossy vessel]

Their one and only message in here

[ashen cliff]

Somehow captures how ZGC works in MC pretty well:
https://jet-start.sh/blog/2020/06/23/jdk-gc-benchmarks-rematch#a-sneak-peek-into-upcoming-versions

[twin lagoon]

i've always had mad lagspikes with zgc

[sand epoch]

why do all the newer gcs look worse

what's the point of them

[waxen panther]

surprisingly not everything in java is made for minecraft

[golden gust]

ZGC works well when you have the right conditions and such, and knowing those conditions seems to be fun, last I knew billy preaches ZGC on a small heap, but last I knew he had a smallish family type server, so, not really a good base sample, for larger servers, seems that excessive heaps work much better

different goals

[sand epoch]

newer gcs for smaller applications

[olive garden]

some applications don't produce garbage at extreme rates :D

[golden gust]

modern collectors are designed to have minimal global pause times

[ashen cliff]

Unlike MC.

[golden gust]

e.g. stuff like web apps where you can have hunreds of threads running

allocation rates really aren't the issue as much as MC doing it primarily on a single thread and generally constrained to smaller heaps

[olive garden]

well, based on what krusic linked these new GCs are absolute shit when there is too much garbage/sec to collect

[sand epoch]

somehow G1 is still best for throughput

[golden gust]

Well, yea, which is why they're designed for massively sized heaps where you're able to tune GC to be running almost consistently without freezing the entire JVM for several dozen ms each go

ZGC when performing well does less pasuing than G1 when it seems to be doing well

[twin lagoon]

WARNING: These artifacts are not well-tested, not virus-checked, may contain horrible bugs that could lead to data corruption, engulfing machines in flames, selling your firstborns at eBay, etc. etc. etc. everything that applies for binaries^W code^W anything downloaded from the Internet. Be cautious. If in doubt, build from source yourself, and/or run on staging environment that is not painful to restore.

Our motto: "builds.shipilev.net — still more secure than npm install"

[golden gust]

The issue with ZGC is that the way it performs is somewhat unpredicable and generally just gonna be total ass to MC given the whole single thread allocating hundreds of MB/s

if this was a web server with the same allocation rates, it would nowhere be as big of an issue

The biggest thing is that these newer collectors are not designed to deal with cases where it's easy to fill up the heap, you REALLY need a massive chunk of ram to let GC do it's work between stuff, and how much ram you need and the tuning to do that cleanly, generally not worth the resources and time doing all the research needed to determine how to tune it well

We've already got enough BS in this community with hosting providers shoving 10G plans at servers performing badly because their CPU is trash and RAM == performance, rite?!

[sand epoch]

i'll use ZGC for my next 4 player smp 😎

[magic river]

GC algorithms make throughput vs latency tradeoffs, you can't be best at both

So it makes sense a GC designed for low latency at large heap sizes would lose on throughput

ZGC and Shenandoah get their low pause times by adding another layer of indirection to all pointers (which in Java means all objects) and putting in read and/or write memory barriers so they can safely update those pointers while the program is running

They do more work and make your code do more work so they aren't going to be as fast

[ashen cliff]

MFW Aikar still recommends huge allocations for ZGC.

[magic river]

Pretty sure you have to have huge heap sizes for ZGC to make sense

[ashen cliff]

Would make sense, but no.
Since after you actually need more ram (for MC) ZGC already goes to shit.

So it get's more efficient to just use G1 at anything above 6GB or anything that does a lot of work.

[magic river]

If ZGC can't keep up with MC's allocation rate no amount of heap is going to help

[ashen cliff]

That's why I originally recommend it to be used for minigames.

[magic river]

But in general if you don't have huge heaps there are better GCs to use for throughput and latency

[golden gust]

I believe that the hope of increased heap sizes is to try to give GC space to breath vs hitting oh shit states within a few seconds

[ashen cliff]

That will just make it stall out slower.
The only way that would "fix" the issue would be using softlimit.

[golden gust]

I can imagine for a small # of servers, ZGC maaaaybe kinda sorta probably not makes sense, but, for the majority of them, meh

[ashen cliff]

Setting SoftMaxHeapSize fixed my issue on Vanilla. Since just setting Xmx to something bigger, just offsets the issue.

[golden gust]

Well,that probs is just an early trip for that

[ashen cliff]

So you get something like that:

Instead of that:

[cosmic raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlpV8eVG1lo

[golden gust]

damn, he is we

[cosmic raft]

#mood

[magic river]

I like how this car insurance commercial has "Do not attempt" on the screen while a moon buggy ramps off the edge of a crater

Fuck you let me attempt that

[ashen cliff]

Good luck getting car insurance pay out for that.

[magic river]

When in doubt go for Lloyd's

They'll insure anything

[ashen cliff]

I remember how hard it was for us to get insurance for an experimental car, since you can't drive a car without insurance here.

[mossy vessel]

Just US things, krusic.

[limber knot]

Hello! A player is asking me why there is an asterisk ("*") at the end of a line in their sign. They did not add it themselves, and they think it's something with the server. Do you know of any reason why the server would have added, or at least, displayed, an asterisk in a sign? Could it have something to do with Viaversion? The server runs 1.15.2 and the player used 1.16.4.

Usage of 1.15.2 is discouraged as it's EoL and has a pretty serious issue that was only solved in a relatively new 1.16.4 patch

Regardless of that, it could be a Via issue, it could also be something else

If you are talking about the duplication issue, I've patched that manually. My intention is to upgrade to 1.16.(4), but it involves a lot of testing.

I was just thinking that perhaps somebody else here had come across this issue before.

[ashen cliff]

No one reported something like that in Via (yet). So most likely not us.

[limber knot]

I was unable to reproduce the issue, but now that the player changed client version to 1.15.2, the asteriskts went away... It's not much of an issue, though, I would say. And, it will likely definitely not be an issue when I've upgraded.

[limber knot]

@Citymonstret I got mail from Tullverket today. "Vi behöver uppgifterna senast 2021-01-01 för att försändelsen inte ska returneras." So I didn't even get the chance to give them the info they wanted 😄

[twin lagoon]

proxi is speaking gibberish again

😔

[limber knot]

I am quoting my mail!

[twin lagoon]

😔

[olive marlin]

Imagine not translating the text you are quoting to normal language smh

[twin lagoon]

bloodstone

[olive marlin]

Michael

[minor badge]

@heady spear 😔

[olive marlin]

Waking up at 8am today to work was a mistake.

IS the IRC bridge here and in #paper-help different?

Here Proxi doesn't have avatar (different name from IRC one), but in #paper-help it's the guild avatar.

[void void]

no

[limber knot]

Different webhook images probably

or, well, lack of it here, not in #paper-help

[olive marlin]

Oh, right. Forgot you can set default image/name etc for webhook lol.

[visual egret]

fun

i love modding school discords

[unkempt drift]

yikes, oskar is mod somewhere?

😛

[visual egret]

in a small school discord

[mossy vessel]

Kids ruling kids.

[golden gust]

isn't there a book about that?

[unkempt drift]

why you thumbs down my comment cat

[golden gust]

restore the balance

[unkempt drift]

rude

smh

[golden gust]

God dammit

I thought I could remove reactions by others on stuff

[left swift]

U can only clear all reactions

[unkempt drift]

haha

the real balance has been restored

[left swift]

[ashen cliff]

How TF can a SQL View take 120s, but if I run the query directly it only takes like 0.0045s?

[limber knot]

scalper PS5s are down to $800, another $100 or so and they might stop bothering

(they were at like $1200 at the peak)

[warm anchor]

let's burn all scalper on a stick

[cunning raft]

not like you'd be able to buy one if they weren't a thing in the first place

[warm anchor]

JRoy

[merry talon]

why would they stop bothering if they can even make $50 on top of MSRP?

its all automated

retailers need to solve that

[left swift]

Must present driver's license for online purchases

[warm anchor]

must submit your blood sample to verify your account before making a purchase

[untold copper]

and fingerprint

• retinal scan

[left swift]

Blood, drivers license, ssn, face scan, birth certificate, passport, and fingerprints

[merry talon]

/s/retinal/rectal

[left swift]

All over http

[void void]

you have to send a stool sample

[warm anchor]

LOL

[left swift]

Discord mobile

[warm anchor]

transfer ownership
With this one simple click

[left swift]

Going to ban someone and accidentally giving them ownership to your discord

Imagine

[visual egret]

rectal scan

[warm anchor]

Right under ban members
Where It's likely I would do those task together.

Discord design

[mossy vessel]

If you enabled 2fa you need to insert your code

[warm anchor]

They still havent add 2FA warning

[untold copper]

I think it asks u to confirm

[warm anchor]

for deleting channel

[mossy vessel]

Unless mobile acts different here.

[warm anchor]

do they?

[untold copper]

yeah

[warm anchor]

let me delete my #general with 9 million message

with 1 misclick!

[mossy vessel]

Yes, I've transferred a few servers in the past. Always checking before confirming haha

[left swift]

Idk if it's like that in discord mobile not worth testing out

Knowing discord mobile it probably wont

[warm anchor]

they have like one iOS dev

[mossy vessel]

Enough.

[left swift]

I use android

[warm anchor]

They also push features faster on some platform than the other

[mossy vessel]

When you actually use both because each thing has its ups and downs

[warm anchor]

cant hear you too much logic

[left swift]

I got 2 phones

[merry talon]

isn't it just react native for both

[untold copper]

I got none

[merry talon]

you don't need separate teams

[left swift]

One for da plug one for da hoes

[untold copper]

tho im tryna get one of my parent's old ones

[warm anchor]

I wouldnt give my 12 year old a phone.

[untold copper]

fourteen

[vernal moth]

Having two phones is a PITA

[untold copper]

reee

[vernal moth]

I hate it

I don't even know where my second phone is 😂

[left swift]

Mini just get a 3rd phone and sync all the data from the first 2 into the 3rd 🧠

[vernal moth]

(it's some dum work iphone)

[warm anchor]

iPhone is kool

[mossy vessel]

Using the iPhone 12 for photos and videos but am using samsung for my personal use.

[vernal moth]

Pixel ftw

[untold copper]

you could make this coloured/customized, how do you do that?

[mossy vessel]

Never got my hands at a pixel

I mainly got new phones just for the camera, but I'm looking into professional equipment anyway sooo I'm up for new stuff :P

[vernal moth]

You get new phones just for the camera and never used a pixel? 👀

[mossy vessel]

Yes.

[vernal moth]

It's the server brand

[mossy vessel]

Samsung is cheap ass and apple is sponsored in

[left swift]

I'll trade you a disposable camera with 2 pictures left for your phone obo

[vernal moth]

Purpur has a patch to change it in a config

I just love my pixel

[cunning raft]

is the brand a component or is it just using legacy text?

[vernal moth]

For stills, nothing comes close to it

[mossy vessel]

But if I get a new phone this year I get a rid of both and will most likely stick to one.

[vernal moth]

Even tho the sensor is 3 years now, it still performs better every year thanks to updates

[potent fossil]

I haven't slept for a solid 8 hours on the dot like that for a long time

(unrelated)

[warm anchor]

simple do you ever get a good night sleep

[potent fossil]

Got one last night

I feel like a god

[warm anchor]

that's nice

[mossy vessel]

Simple is always awake

[potent fossil]

So this is what not starving yourself of rest is like

[slim nymph]

This is not how G1GC works for Young Gen. NewGen is too small with javas default choices, and MC benefits mostly from new gen as long as old gen has enough room to cover its needs. With G1, Eden collection time is valued at how much SURVIVES, and increasing eden is the biggest control in reducing survival of short lived memory by slowing down the collection rate.

[untold copper]

After much scientific thinking and experimenting, behold my latest discovery: semi-light mode.

[potent fossil]

Someone ban snoopa already

[void void]

pain

[mossy vessel]

Yeah I've seen your picture of the sky one night ago, was looking gr8

[left swift]

[potent fossil]

Fuck off poki simp

[cunning raft]

that's the og light mode

[left swift]

[slim nymph]

whats wrong with poki

[untold copper]

nothing

[left swift]

They're jealous she rich

[vernal moth]

Even a dum shot and forget shaky photo turns out great

[untold copper]

simping on her

[cunning raft]

nothings wrong with her, just this guy doesn't shut up about her

[potent fossil]

Poki is fine, she's a mastermind sucking those simp wallets dry

But the simps.

[left swift]

Lmao WHAT

[potent fossil]

[void void]

she's a horrible person

[potent fossil]

Oh jroy he is joking btw lmao

[untold copper]

ping pong

[vernal moth]

Poki is nice, men online are just dicks

[cunning raft]

lol wut

[untold copper]

lol

[void void]

I saw something about her being mean I believe

but idk much about it

[cunning raft]

she's fine

you're just highly impressionable

stop watching keemstar

[unkempt drift]

Yeah, I read on the internet that someone was mean. Can’t possible be wrong.

[void void]

I don't watch keemstar lol

[unkempt drift]

No one on the internet ever says false things about someone else

[untold copper]

Yeah, people on the internet are nice!!

[vestal jasper]

I hear Machine_Maker makes machines

[void void]

I just heard about it once, I don't watch pokimane nor any content about her.

[left swift]

Dont watch keemstar watch leafy

Wait

[cunning raft]

but you're quick to make a claim about her?

lmfao

typical internet ig

[vestal jasper]

I'd rather sacrifice my remaining braincells than watch leaf

[warm anchor]

I am nice. Dont you think?

[unkempt drift]

I really just don’t care about all the big streamer drama stuff. I occasionally hear about it, but I really could care less.

[void void]

that is the only info I have about her

[vernal moth]

"info"

[untold copper]

sure 👀

[vernal moth]

You are spreading information you didn't verify

[slim nymph]

she had some controversy i read (i dont follow the youtube/twitch shit, but just see articles on phone randomly), but havent heard too much?

[vernal moth]

That's horrible

[void void]

leaves in shame

[left swift]

See what a single poki emote does simple

[warm anchor]

This is the best way to go about it.

[slim nymph]

I saw she limited how much people could donate to her, thought that was interesting

[merry talon]

the controversy is transphobia

[untold copper]

Just saying I followed the whole drama for some reason

[void void]

oh?

[merry talon]

she didn't allow a trans girl to participate in some sort of girls only event

that's all I know

[void void]

uh oh

that's not good

[warm anchor]

what's a girl only event?

[vernal moth]

This doesn't even have anything to do with poki, please never share stuff you heard when you didn't do your due diligence in verifying it's actually true, because that's how fake news are created

[warm anchor]

Like what context?? I am very confused lol

[merry talon]

she... did do that though?

[warm anchor]

what mini said bascially.

[vernal moth]

Because others will share it to, and it becomes a rumor, and rumors are always true

Didn't mean you sweepy

[cunning raft]

iirc the trans stuff was a mod that did it not her

and she fired the mod

sooo

again

context

[warm anchor]

fired almost sounds like her mod getting paid? where do I apply

[left swift]

Some big streamers pay their top mods

[vernal moth]

And that's a very difficult topic in general. Isn't the olympic committee heavily struggling with this?

[untold copper]

lol

[void void]

👀

[unkempt drift]

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/pokimane-responds-to-transphobia-accusations-after-discord-dms-emerge-1471165/

[merry talon]

yeah well the olympics have somewhat of a valid issue

[potent fossil]

I left to make coffee and this certainly devolves from joke to actually hating on poki vs ppl defending poki

[warm anchor]

is it just me

or she lives in just her bedroom?

[olive garden]

Thanks aikar. "Time valued at" means "proportional to", right? One question though, does gcmaxpausemillis actually control something in your flags? Like does it actually have any effect?

[cunning raft]

#paper-help

[warm anchor]

Simple is truely the chaos god

[untold copper]

dont we all

[quasi valley]

jesus christ it's this kind of people why the internet is a bad place https://twitter.com/ono_skelis/status/1332808361075765250?s=20

♤ Oogie Boogie ♤ (@ono_skelis)

@CultC0re There is genuinely no excuse for this, at all. AT ALL. If the mods are transphobic, Pokimane is. I didn't even know who she was until this tweet lmao, but good thing I didn't because this is disgusting.

Twitter · Nov 28, 2020, 10:07 PM

[vernal moth]

Wtf, i just learned the world TERF

[untold copper]

same

[vernal moth]

I hate humanity

[cunning raft]

ah yes

[untold copper]

mm same to some extent

[cunning raft]

the mods = the streamer

[warm anchor]

the last place I want to have a new article featured in is me in my bedroom

[cunning raft]

i see

twitter logic

[void void]

jfc

[vestal jasper]

Jfc

[warm anchor]

what's TERF

[void void]

gotta slap "other's views don't represent mine" everywhere, in red, very loudly and maybe also make it flashing

[unkempt drift]

Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist?

[vernal moth]

trans-exclusionary radical feminist

[warm anchor]

a wut

[vernal moth]

Whatever the fuck that means

[untold copper]

dont understand half the words in that

[quasi valley]

at least you can find sane people there as well https://twitter.com/EnderPartyLord/status/1332948441362698242?s=20

❣️❣️ EnderPartyLord ❣️❣️ (@EnderPartyLord)

@CultC0re Hey look I'm trans too and this upsets just as much as anyone else, but I don't think it's fair to call Pokimane a TERF just because of how her mod's behave. Like I get she's still partly responsible because it's still her staff, but she didn't do anything at the end of day.

Twitter · Nov 29, 2020, 7:24 AM

[void void]

like a feminist that is transphobic

[unkempt drift]

Apparently people are big into calling JK Rowling that too.

[untold copper]

hm

[quasi valley]

"she's responsible, but don't throw around names"

[vernal moth]

Jj rowling is an interesting character

[void void]

bc she is lol

[untold copper]

Yk what

[warm anchor]

yikes

[untold copper]

Ima come up with a couple laws to surviving in this world

[slim nymph]

it sets a target, but iirc my recommendation was right back at default really. setting too low hurt things as it wasnt able to clean mixed gc's as fast and ends up running out of old. maxgc is not always hit, so no harm in putting it at 200.

[untold copper]

And call em "Snoopa's [insert number] laws of survival"

[vernal moth]

Let's talk about more fun stuff, I just survived my first work day or this year

[untold copper]

Bai everyone I shall be back

[vernal moth]

Woooo

[untold copper]

yay gg

how was it

[unkempt drift]

Nah, way more adrenaline pumping having conversations where someone gets banned at the end.

[woven otter]

ahhh yes people making logical arguments

[slim nymph]

ugh back to being cold at work table 😦

[olive garden]

Cool, thanks a lot!

[quasi valley]

my first day of not going to one of my courses because I got what I need whoo

[untold copper]

f

Imagine having to work

Just scam ppl ez

(im just kidding)

[vernal moth]

I had a bunch of meeting and scheduled a bunch of meetings and read my mail

Yey productivity

[untold copper]

you read your mail?

dayum bro

some day

[vernal moth]

I even reply to some of them!

Only has two hundret emails to read, wasn't that bad

[untold copper]

I even reply to some of them!
you WHAT

[vernal moth]

Thankfully I filter most stuff out, so those two hundrets were mostly relevant

[untold copper]

mini replies to mails....

you actually work bro

[void void]

bruh

[untold copper]

ok bai

[warm anchor]

Snoopa not everyone is 12 here

[untold copper]

dinner time

[warm anchor]

[void void]

Mini is productive? crazy /s

[untold copper]

For the last time

im

fourteen

[warm anchor]

ok

[void void]

lol

[warm anchor]

[untold copper]

almost 15 ok

👀

[void void]

smol child

[untold copper]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[void void]

(as I'm sitting here also a minor)

[slim nymph]

age doesnt excuse the use of light theme

[void void]

^^

these are facts

[warm anchor]

Snoopa I ma tell your mom you use light theme

[mossy vessel]

Call him on discord so his mom's phone rings

[vernal moth]

Reading and writing mail isn't how I would define productivity, lol

[void void]

lol

[merry talon]

it is if you were upper management

[vernal moth]

Management isn't working

They manage

Big difference 😂

Others are doing the work

[unkempt drift]

That’s the attitude! I’m sure you’ll be moving up shortly.

No more TPS reports for you

[vernal moth]

My boss cut off his finger while falling over a dog with a six-pack in his hand, so i got a week of silence ^^

[slim nymph]

wait snoopas discord is on moms phone lol?

[warm anchor]

let me call to find out

[vernal moth]

Or well, nearly cut of, 6 stiches and stuff

[warm anchor]

yeah aikar he has no phone himself

[twin lagoon]

[ashen cliff]

snelle

[untold copper]

Who told u I use light theme aikar the hell

[cunning raft]

you posted a screenshot

[slim nymph]

your screenshots

[untold copper]

see no

that was just experimenting

[ashen cliff]

BS.

[slim nymph]

only insane people experiment with light theme

sane people know its bad w/o trying

[merry talon]

that's like experimenting with shining a 10W laser directly into your retina

[untold copper]

xD

[unkempt drift]

Is it just a meme that discord won’t fix it now?

[untold copper]

What can I say I still use velcro shoes

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warm anchor]

wtf

[slim nymph]

fix it would be delete it, then theyd upset the crazies

[ashen cliff]

Velcro used to be life.

[untold copper]

Velcro op

[merry talon]

i mean its not just the fact that its a light theme, it is really badly designed

plenty of light themes look good

[ashen cliff]

You could just use zip-ties tho.

[untold copper]

Imagine having tie your shoes

• This post was made by the Velcro gang

[unkempt drift]

Actually, it’s called “hook and loop” not velcro. 🙂

[untold copper]

no

velcro

[cunning raft]

.g hook and loop velcro brand

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.velcro.com/business/products/self-engaging-hook-and-loop/

[cunning raft]

.g hook and loop velcro brand youtube video

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE2w72YS1j8

[cunning raft]

mother fucker

[untold copper]

thats like

tupperware

[cunning raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRi8LptvFZY

[unkempt drift]

It’s definitely called hook and loop

[void void]

bruh

Im learning today

[untold copper]

v e l c r o

[unkempt drift]

Yeah, they even made a video with a bunch of lawyers telling you that. 😆

[ashen cliff]

Now tell him why.

[untold copper]

I should dinner

bai

[vernal moth]

Klettbandverschluss!

[unkempt drift]

Mr Snoopa was too shook by this revelation, and so left the chat

[void void]

they say that because when a word become common lingo for the product, the word becomes un-trademarked I believe (or something along those lines)

[mossy vessel]

Hook and loop is an interesting term since we have no individual word (afaik) for each stripe.

[cunning raft]

yes i know i linked the video

not as simple as that

[unkempt drift]

Is that true tho? That you lose the trademark? Frisbee is still a company right?

[cunning raft]

that video is largely a marketing thing

google is a literal verb

[unkempt drift]

So is Band-Aid

[cunning raft]

but they still have their trade mark

velcro isn't losing their trademark

[void void]

there is a case for it tho

[cunning raft]

show me the case law supporting it and or a lawsuit which they fail to enforce their trademark

[slim nymph]

wish nest would fix this bullshit of when you try to bump up the heat it goes back down to what it was

[void void]

no, i'm saying thatt there is a case for saying that google shouldn't be trademarked

not that there is a lawsuit or something

[cunning raft]

what do you mean there is a case

[void void]

like a line of reasoning

[ashen cliff]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_genericized_trademarks

[void void]

like "there is a case for saying that 1+1=2"

[left swift]

[ashen cliff]

Just like Snoopa.
I forgot something in the kitchen.

[cunning raft]

dude im losing my braincells

[unkempt drift]

2+2=4 btw

Not 5 😛

[left swift]

2+2 is fish

[void void]

ah yes, my favorite shell

[left swift]

Hmm what was that deadmau5 song

[woven otter]

Yes

[left swift]

Oh album not song https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4×4%3D12

[ashen cliff]

Play Ghosts N Stuff

[void void]

he did not graduate elementary school xD

[cunning raft]

eeks dee

[left swift]

[olive garden]

@vernal moth Bob has made a Paper PR

[vernal moth]

Mmh?

[olive garden]

do you not remember Bob?

[vernal moth]

Yes i do

[untold copper]

No i left because I had to dinner

[marble lark]

Does anyone know how to fix this I'm trying to do ./paper patch but it just fails with this error (Yes I've already tried google)

error: invalid object 100644 b4f8ae3998a1758963a6a84ca35d30c2c36ca497 for 'src/main/java/net/minecraft/server/NetworkManager.java'
error: Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge.

[wide chasm]

Please don't cross-post messages across channels

[marble lark]

Deleted the one in the other channel

[woven otter]

but spamming leads to quicker response

[topaz mortar]

static bob? Don't want to improve my code bob?

[mossy vessel]

Busted git?

[olive garden]

I-dont-like-lambdas-Bob

[marble lark]

No idea

I've re cloned the repo several times already :/

[mossy vessel]

git being drunk?

Could also apply the patch manually ig

[marble lark]

There aren't any conflicts in NetworkManager.java either which is annoying

Yeah I guess I'll have to do that if all else fails

sigh

[left swift]

Everytime I see lambda i think half life

[olive marlin]

It's so fitting that on PR fixing a typo, Proxi made a typo when approving it lol

[next frost]

proxi doesn't make typos

[visual egret]

git blame

>>> proximyst

oops

[next frost]

look at the actual pr :p

[olive marlin]

Oh lol

[true canyon]

Didn't expect to see GPL on BOLA today - https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/kpnv3n/employers_product_is_based_on_a_gpl_licensed/

[slim nymph]

thats a big yikes

[untold copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HkgFxgy1FA

[visual egret]

me on my blue switches :)

44%?

what is this maths

[left swift]

Is that epic games store

[untold copper]

Yeah

Epic games launcher

[next frost]

downloading vs installing ig

[cunning raft]

prob includes extraction in percentage

[untold copper]

I have GTA V for free on that

[visual egret]

except it doesent

[cunning raft]

how do you know that

[visual egret]

well usually that number is correct

[proven knoll]

kotlin rewrite when

kotlin superior

[visual egret]

🤮

good thing i added some try catch code there lol

lets see what this error is

[proven knoll]

no error with kotlin :(

[warm anchor]

500 player server

[visual egret]

i thought autoreconnect was by default

[warm anchor]

Oskar Hypickle owner

[left swift]

[proven knoll]

okay sorry enough meming

[visual egret]

no idea why its that high either lol

lemme check

[warm anchor]

It’s in config

[visual egret]

no config says something else too

[minor tapir]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125227483518861312/789879226584530964/unknown.png

[warm anchor]

Make it 69 😉

[minor tapir]

[visual egret]

so its probably my shit plugin

[olive marlin]

Imagine having to use try...catch.
Sponsored by Rust gang

[proven knoll]

[minor tapir]

this post was made by the kotlin gang

:^)

[minor badge]

can we not have the 38175th kotlin superiority discussion

[visual egret]

...because we all know that its bad

[potent fossil]

[proven knoll]

actually I was just meming sorry :(

[olive marlin]

I think it was settled long time ago that it's true.

[left swift]

It wouldnt be a day in papermc 2.0 without it

[spiral robin]

@potent fossil

[cedar spade]

can I start the 38176th?

[potent fossil]

henlo aber

[visual egret]

papermc 16.51.25 wen

[mossy vessel]

Ima order pizza hawai later

[visual egret]

google 2.0 wen

[minor badge]

I quite literally do not care if it was settled or what we know or whatever -- let's ignore the entire topic :-)

[upper flicker]

kotlin gud, kotlin bad, ur bad, paper bad, NMF bad, rust gud

[proven knoll]

I'm very proud of u

[visual egret]

kotlin bad

[minor tapir]

[cunning raft]

@minor badge

[minor tapir]

ez

[minor badge]

?kick @visual egret What did I just say

[leaden oxide]

OskarZyg#9256 was kicked | What did I just say

[cunning raft]

[proven knoll]

o.o

[warm anchor]

[proven knoll]

[spiral robin]

Finally

[minor tapir]

[left swift]

[minor tapir]

[mossy vessel]

Jk, I can't stand that either

[left swift]

10 minutes of no Oskar typing

[visual egret]

oops

[spiral robin]

Lmfao fucking celebration

[visual egret]

thought that was a joke

[left swift]

Oh he can type right away

[olive marlin]

Proxi might wanna kick his alt lol

[proven knoll]

damn I love Hawai pizza

[visual egret]

i only use that thing in school

[cedar spade]

<insert random emoji reaction here>

[minor badge]

that isnt his alt

[left swift]

[minor badge]

there is no 10min timer on him for god knows what reason

[visual egret]

what timer

[minor badge]

discord things™

[warm anchor]

Ban him for 10 min

[cedar spade]

smh imagine not just tempmuting

[vernal moth]

Hey, at least the build system will be using kotlin soon

That's as far as we will go

[minor badge]

I know we have a mute thing, but meh

kicking is easier and gets the point further across and lets me ban them quicker if they instantly rejoin to cause more trouble

[left swift]

Proxy is awesome

[quasi valley]

proxy

[left swift]

[proven knoll]

oh no pls no kotlin :c

[visual egret]

velocity?

[vernal moth]

The alternative would be groovy

So it's a no-brainer

[proven knoll]

I do like groovy 👀

[visual egret]

bungeecord rewite wen

[vernal moth]

It's also the only kotlin I tolerate

[proven knoll]

[vernal moth]

It's done. It's called velocity

[minor badge]

thats just velocity oskar

heck

[visual egret]

yeah lol

[minor badge]

sober mini is fast mini

[vernal moth]

sober

Heh

[minor badge]

semi-sober mini is fast mini

[vernal moth]

Am actually sober

[left swift]

[minor badge]

theres a first for everything

[warm anchor]

Alcohol is his fuel so technically sober mini is slow mini

[vernal moth]

Am in ma bath tub

[mossy vessel]

[visual egret]

lets make a pull request for bungee and throw the entire velocity codebase into there

[spiral robin]

[proven knoll]

let's make a pr to papermc and let IJ auto convert all java classes to kotlin
kotlin rewrite done ✅

[mossy vessel]

You mean in your Jacuzzi sponsored by paper donations

[vernal moth]

How about no?

To both of you

[minor badge]

please dont harass maintainers

[vernal moth]

Open source maintincance is hard enough

No need to spam

[fallen oracle]

So confused. Just told MCDev to give me a gradle project and it gave me a maven / gradle project

[proven knoll]

no worries we all appreciate the hard work done
ofc I'm not doing that lol

[void void]

so i'm trying to serve a resource pack

and when i start papermc it says [11:45:13 WARN]: You specified a resource pack without providing a sha1 hash. Pack will be updated on the client only if you change the name of the pack.

[visual egret]

welcome back

[void void]

yo oskar! lol

[visual egret]

i got kicked a few minutes ago oops

[left swift]

Really thats crazy

[visual egret]

ikr

[cunning raft]

if you provide a sha1 hash, it will let the client not need to download it every time and keep a locally cached copy of the pack

[void void]

ahhhh

where do i get this sha1 hash from?

[visual egret]

just find a tool or a website to do it for u

[cunning raft]

iirc just hash your resource pack file

i think thats what the client uses

[visual egret]

http://onlinemd5.com/

[void void]

nice!!

okay one second

[minor badge]

sha1sum pack.zip also works on most linux distributions

[visual egret]

^

[cunning raft]

just make sure the hash you provide is lowercase

[minor badge]

jroy

[void void]

its just hanging on that screen

encryption issue?

[visual egret]

ok great so turns out my plugin was setting max playercount to 500 when it had an error with the motd

[topaz mortar]

Own server?
Webserver with Self signed SSL certificate?
Doesn't it happen when starting Minecraft using a newer Java version?

[visual egret]

its some random website iirc

[void void]

its my website but on a DO box

someone said i could host it through discord?

[topaz mortar]

DO box?

[olive marlin]

Is it behind LetsEncrypt?

DigitalOcean

[void void]

i have ~zero~ idea -- not my box

my friend has been gracious enough to give me space on it

[olive marlin]

Go to your browser to the website, click the little padlock and view the certificate.

[void void]

yupppp

let's encrypt!

let's encrypt authority X3

[olive marlin]

The Java that Mojang uses is so old, it doesn't trust those.

[void void]

so no bueno

hmmm

[olive marlin]

Upload it to Discord and use this link lol

[void void]

where do i upload to discord though? so confused about that

[warm anchor]

Anywhere

[olive marlin]

Just upload to any channel you have, right click -> copy link.

[warm anchor]

Even here (not recommended)

[void void]

oh interesting

[merry talon]

ermmm

[void void]

i have a mc game server one sec

[merry talon]

should probably use s3 or something over that

[lyric patio]

MiniDigger more like beer amirite

[merry talon]

hey guys did you know slack is down

[visual egret]

what kind of epic username

[minor badge]

Discord uptime isnt anything to be proud of lol

[lyric patio]

🤫

[warm anchor]

I mean he’s just testing so

[wild escarp]

lol

[olive marlin]

He just needs it for his 3 friends or so.

Should be fine lol

[visual egret]

screw MSA lets use discord-based authentication

[void void]

yup! good memory

[wild escarp]

upload it to github :P

[warm anchor]

Is this a roast

[left swift]

What used to be ur name io

[void void]

no quite literally 4 friends

[warm anchor]

[lyric patio]

vaguely yes

[lyric patio]

idk

[left swift]

I have u blocked for something

Probably worth

[warm anchor]

I don’t like your name coz I see it on error message

[lyric patio]

lmao

[olive marlin]

Not really @warm anchor ^^

[lyric patio]

no clue what thats about

[void void]

wtf

[lyric patio]

🤔

[void void]

is that my sha1?

[olive marlin]

I think you need to make it lower-case for MC for some reason.

But yes.

[potent fossil]

what is happening here

[left swift]

No one knows simple

[lyric patio]

good question

[void void]

lmao

0F1FB8031D65D40AF96C29CB57B59903A6265CE8

so i need to take that and make it lower case?

[olive marlin]

SHA-1 digest of the resource pack, in lowercase hexadecimal.

YEs.

[potent fossil]

0f1fb8031d65d40af96c29cb57b59903a6265ce8

there u go

[void void]

how u do that so fast

[potent fossil]

magic

[warm anchor]

Simple has fast fingers

[left swift]

Fast fingers 😳

[warm anchor]

😉

[void void]

lmao

[lyric patio]

"lmao" - @void void , 2021

[teal pecan]

hi, does anyone know a plugin that can help with making a badlands for banned people like on badboyhalo's server?

[merry talon]

...who

[warm anchor]

Tf

[teal pecan]

bad boy halo his server is munchymc im just not sure how to create a place so that when someone gets banned they get teleported to a nether like place and they have a permission to complete to get unbanned

[warm anchor]

I guess you can generate a small world with Mesa biome only and send people over?

[void void]

ughhh okay it loosk like it downloaded just fine but it's not displaying the resource pack

[potent fossil]

essentialsx has a jail system, just use multiverse, make a new world with a custom generator, mvtp there, make a huge region and create it as a jail in essentials

now when you jail someone they will go there

[teal pecan]

oh ye

[teal pecan]

is it possible to jail them for a multiple amount of time?

[potent fossil]

yes

[teal pecan]

ok thanks 😄

[slim nymph]

slack outage on most peoples first day back to work is great!

did they downscale servers over holidays and forget to scale back up

[merry talon]

that should be automatic lol

[warm anchor]

~~just move over to discord ~~

[slim nymph]

discord will never work for busines

and it has more problems than slack

[void void]

https://pastebin.com/RrfAEAg7

okay so i see it downloading when i join

says 100% and exits