general

[golden gust]

much of it probs due to the EU riding our asses

But, hey, we got rid of the tampon tax, so, that's good

[potent fossil]

Vendor: "we can't refund you yet, the airline hasn't sent us the money"

Me: "oh ok I see. talk later!"

Me: disputes charge and gets money back immediately

[fallen oracle]

Don't give faction players any ideas

[vernal moth]

Yes

More like, airline has to refund me cause am EU citizens and that's the law here and you better follow it if you wanna get landing permits here

[minor otter]

Ended up posting my issue here now. Wish me luck 😛

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install/blue-screen-when-installing-windows-10-from-usb/e1878760-7c7c-4098-a81e-8a48babc74c5?tm=1609714332645

[merry talon]

that's almost certainly a hardware issue

[vernal moth]

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/passenger-rights/air/index_en.htm#compensation-delay-2

[cosmic raft]

ugh

fucking netflix

why does it not sort "My List" by date added

-.-

[minor otter]

dont scare me like that 😦 been testing out my ram bricks all day and after troubleshooting online all day I found this to fit me best 😦

[potent fossil]

What if you buy through a travel agent in another country (i.e. ticket website like Kiwi), which then buys the airline ticket on your behalf?

Does EU protect that?

[merry talon]

well you could try a linux live cd or something

[potent fossil]

Just curious

[merry talon]

but it sounds like a mobo thing tbh

[cunning raft]

be surprised if it didn't

[potent fossil]

Ah, well, Kiwi is in the Czech Republic which is EU (from a quick google) so...I would guess so? Somehow

It's not like Kiwi was telling me "no". They told me "not yet."

But I said fuck that and disputed on the CC and got my money.

[minor otter]

What do you mean by mobo? :p

Oh motherboard

[vernal moth]

Simple yes. If you are an eu citizen and the flight start or end in the EU, you are entitled for compensation

(if certain requirements are met and shit)

[potent fossil]

I guess I'm wondering who is paying you by that policy? Is it the airline, or is it the EU and then the EU goes after the airline?

[vernal moth]

The airline

[potent fossil]

Cause Kiwi's deal was "airline hasn't sent us the money yet, as soon as we get it we'll give it to you"

and I was like "sounds sus I'm getting my money now"

So could they do that to you?

[vernal moth]

You get it directly from the airline

[potent fossil]

Do they have a timeline?

[vernal moth]

Idk

You send in some form the EU gives you

[potent fossil]

Basically the airline was going to refund, but hadn't yet. Had no idea when it was going to come

[vernal moth]

Idk about stuff like that

[potent fossil]

Eh ok, was just curious

[vernal moth]

I had a vacation setup that I had to cancel thanks to covid, my travel agent handled everything for me, took like a month to get my money back

[potent fossil]

Ah yeah I was in the 5th month of waiting at that point

With initial promise of 3 months from Kiwi lol

So I was like "nope"

Poor sods without a strong CC probably still have not got their money back

[cosmic raft]

HA

Take that netflix

[potent fossil]

(That's not won't; they'll get it. Just not...soon...)

[merry talon]

i mean the whole premise of a cc is that they're on your side because you're spending their money

so it all works the same lol

[cosmic raft]

[...$$('a')]
  .map(h => h.href)
  .filter(a => a.startsWith('https://www.netflix.com/watch/'))
  .map(a => a.split('/')[4].split('?')[0])
  .map(n => fetch("https://www.netflix.com/api/shakti/v3d052264/playlistop", {
    credentials: "include",
    headers: {},
    referrer: "https://www.netflix.com/browse/my-list",
    referrerPolicy: "no-referrer-when-downgrade",
    body: `{
      "operation": "remove",
      "videoId": ${n},
      "trackId": 0,
      "isWatchlistEnabled": false,
      "authURL": "meow"
    }`,
    method: "POST",
    mode: "cors"
  }))

goodbye "my list" entries

[potent fossil]

Right, but typically disputes aren't won that fast if you're not a loyal customer. Would still need to wait for the CC to take their time investigating or whatever.

[merry talon]

don't they usually reverse the charges right away and continue investigating afterwards?

[potent fossil]

I used my dad's amex. He's a customer there for 20+ years, so his disputes are always priority. Got the money like 3 days later

[merry talon]

idk never had to dispute anything

[potent fossil]

No, they investigate first. At least amex does

I don't know

[merry talon]

oh

[potent fossil]

I haven't disputed on one of my cards, just his

[merry talon]

latest.log?

[potent fossil]

r u hacking netflix

wow that reply is horrible with a code block

[void void]

hi

[potent fossil]

hi

[void void]

i am baaaaaack

[potent fossil]

i am leeeeaaaaaaving

[merry talon]

NPE

[potent fossil]

If the kernel killed it, there might be info in /var/log/kern.log

[minor badge]

that is likely unrelated

[potent fossil]

Yeah it's a stretch, but when shit just dies like that then something killed it

Or something extraordinarily stupid happened

[cosmic raft]

No

I was clearing my "My List" list

[potent fossil]

whats that

what

[cosmic raft]

https://www.netflix.com/browse/my-list

[potent fossil]

i had no idea this existed

[cosmic raft]

"Add to My List" button

[potent fossil]

yeah i've seen that before but idk. selective visual processing i guess

i just open the precise show I want and watch it, never have browsed and added stuff

[peak ginkgo]

I'm having this same problem rn

Commands just fucking murder the game

And I dont care to figure it out

[potent fossil]

Huh, weird.

[void void]

Guys i found a cute wolf gif

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-wolves-wilderness-wild-wolf-cub-gif-5611740

so cute

[peak ginkgo]

@spare venture Yup

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/K1E48VOsE0GgafM4zBaU6Ycqw1FvUGhq_qHp15ncuNQ/https/u.dejay.dev/%25F0%259F%2596%258C%25F0%259F%259A%25B2%25F0%259F%259A%258D.png

Oh yours isn't mine at all

Mine is insta kill

say a

fucked

[olive marlin]

New Paper is borked?

[peak ginkgo]

I've been having this issue for a while tbh

No clue where it stems from

[minor badge]

I don't think we merged anything special other than API today at least. The anti xray perm is the only thing I can think of

[potent fossil]

you could try looking in dmesg for a process killed message, but...(im asking someone who knows) is that not the same as kern.log? If so, then nvm

welp

i shall be no help here

ima go shower

[merry talon]

oh its intermittent

oof

[peak ginkgo]

Mine is anytime I edit the default files

user-cache, ops

etc

And not manually or anything

Users joining -> cached

[olive marlin]

I doubt it's possible, but maybe - would it be possible to restart proxy without yeeting people out?
I was thinking something like queue packets without forwarding them to proxy, restart proxy, play packets from players to proxy. I guess there's a lot in terms of handshake and stuff that's required so that wouldn't work?

Was just wondering "for the fun of it", doubt it could be not-hacky enough to use it in prod lol

[minor badge]

well yes

youd need to leak the connections then resume them rather quickly

[olive marlin]

Hmm. So it'd probably work if I went blue/green with the proxy?

So setup new proxy, switch connections to it, teardown old one.

[minor badge]

eeh sure but.. hacky

youd just need to keep the connection open to resume it after the reboot

[olive marlin]

Hmm, seems like systemd can keep queue sockets during restart, but I don't want to use it.

Could probably also record them with tcpdump and replay them? But that sounds Hella hacky.

[mental meadow]

@heady spear uwu vc?

[heady spear]

it's 1am how r u not asleep

[pulsar shuttle]

I made a big mistake

I accidentally deleted a config file for a plugin, and I can't get it back because I dont have access to the FTP file recycle bin

Is there anyway I can reload the config without wiping the data I just put in?

The server is still running off of the settings the config had set

[golden gust]

in general, no, unless you have a copy of it or something FTP doesn't have a recycle bin, etc, that's a desktop concept

[worn ember]

@pulsar shuttle does the plugin have a way to modify the config through commands?

you could change a setting and it'll dump the config from memory back to the file

[merry talon]

usually not

this is why you keep backups

[pulsar shuttle]

Well, I do have a backup

But it from 2 days ago

And I've put in a lot of work today.

And the day prior

[worn ember]

rip

[merry talon]

your work should be version controlled

[pulsar shuttle]

The plugin is mythicmobs, I'm gonna see if I can't somehow save the skill

[worn ember]

not for configs dude

who tf does version control for configs

[merry talon]

uh

people who want do to things properly?

[worn ember]

so literally no one on this planet?

[merry talon]

absolutely yes for configs

oh especially that plugin

that config is literally defining server features

it should be versioned

[zealous wedge]

i'm sure larger networks that have configs shared across multiple server instances use version control

[merry talon]

anyway you could try something like testdisk

if you have shell access

[zealous wedge]

if you only have one or two servers like barty here, then yeah you can easily deal with backups

[spring mango]

Cool, now I get solid 60FPS while playing MC after upgrading my ram.

[fallen oracle]

Ayy nice. You running Phosphor or anything?

[spring mango]

Yeah, lithium + phosphor + sodium

[fallen oracle]

Nice!

[spring mango]

Ty

[heady spear]

Glareeee how r u

[warm anchor]

What’s your pc spec

[spring mango]

As I mentioned the other day: 6th gen intel-i3 dual core @2ghz, 8GB ram, 1TB hard drive & intel intergrated HD graphics 520. (I am using a 2-in-1 lenovo ideapad). Not really a gaming laptop, but good for casual use.

[warm anchor]

Damn

It’s magic that it runs that well

[spring mango]

Yeah, upgrading the memory did the trick, now everything boots up fast and super smooth

[rare otter]

@twin lagoon Michael can I ask you a question for md and then you delete me right away so as not to interrupt this chat?

[potent fossil]

what

[twin lagoon]

what is md

[rare otter]

Sorry for mentioning

md private message

[coarse lily]

What's md?

[spring mango]

?

[rare otter]

md meaning private message here in my country

[coarse lily]

Oh.

I think we tend to call it "dm"

You could just ask your question here.

Not much chat going on to interrupt

But maybe Michael will let you DM him.

[rare otter]

Oh something new I learned here we usually say it differently

[spring mango]

Does md stand for: msg directly?

[rare otter]

Md here means private message

[potent fossil]

if it's spanish or portuguese or something maybe mensaje directo

idk

[spring mango]

Ok, gotcha

[limber knot]

Hi.

[spring mango]

Hi bot, jk

[rare otter]

I wanted to ask Michael one last question

[potent fossil]

Just ask your question, he checks here pretty often

<@&748618676189528155>

[limber knot]

Yea

[spring mango]

That question really suits his php

[limber knot]

!kickban Webchat740Troll

No no no

[coarse lily]

It's on IRC

[limber knot]

Yea.

And that iddn't work.

[potent fossil]

She's doing it from IRC

Because she didn't add a space

[stiff yarrow]

I think you missed a space aurora

[limber knot]

bro guys

[rare otter]

@twin lagoon Today we managed to reach 100 online users within the server where I belong, but I had a doubt about the dedicated infra-2 you recommend me to buy ssd disk

[limber knot]

Ah there we go.

[mental meadow]

oh

[limber knot]

mfw

[mental meadow]

you're right

why doesn't it do the space automatically

what bs is that

[void void]

?

[twin lagoon]

you always want an SSD

[potent fossil]

You were pinged by an IRC troll, they're gone now

[spring mango]

nvm

[potent fossil]

As you were

[limber knot]

!kickban

Yeah I missed a space

:C

[coarse lily]

WTF it was that same idiot

[limber knot]

its ok aurora, ur still uwutastic at least

A lof

!kickban Webchat703 Troll

Oh, it's one of those days

[mental meadow]

yay I did it

[rare otter]

http://prntscr.com/wfll9p I had a question about that before I bought it, did you say that this way I could already have a breakthrough in terms of server performance?

@twin lagoon

[limber knot]

big oof

[coarse lily]

They aren't very bright.

[twin lagoon]

what do you need 128gb ram for

[rare otter]

I'll be honest with you, we have changed our dedication about 3 times and we couldn't find the key in the cpu, we have 100 users which for us is an achievement but we don't want that when there are 80 people connected we have 7 tps

[coarse lily]

I mean if you can afford it then having 128GB isn't bad.

You can run a few servers on it.

[rare otter]

Because I imagine that a server when it gets big needs a lot of ram but that's why I want to learn

[spring mango]

That's a whole node worth of ram some hosts provide

[limber knot]

with ram, you're more concerned with GC pressure, not having a metric to n of ram

many servers do not need most of what they've been allocated

Just, there is a level of with G1 it doesn't really hurt to have too much

[twin lagoon]

no

if you're a single server just stick to a 32gb

[coarse lily]

You could get a box with 128GB, use ~32GB of it for servers, and then not need to get more later if you expand.

But very very few people need even 64GB.

[spring mango]

even 16GB+ seems overkill for me tbh

[coarse lily]

Depends on the server.

[rare otter]

I don't want to be ignorant but I thought that in the future our network is going to have several games so we thought about the ram theme but I'm sure I was wrong

[limber knot]

HELLLOOOOO

[spring mango]

How many players/server r u expecting?

[limber knot]

GOODBYEEEEEE

at this point just turn on moderated chat, he'll get bored shortly after his next visit when he realizes he can't talk

[mental meadow]

cat I already typed it in smh

[limber knot]

That was bucharest.

!tban

[warm anchor]

That can be upgraded in anytime ...

[rare otter]

We are already at 100 and the goal is at least 400

[limber knot]

meh

Maybe he'll run out of lame VPNs soon

[twin lagoon]

then stick to 64

[limber knot]

electroniccat

Good ol "Xander"

oh a new arrival

!kickban Webchat753 Troll

[twin lagoon]

128gb is unnecessary 99% of the time

[cedar spade]

hElLo I wOuLd LiKe To RaIsE a CoMpLaInT

[twin lagoon]

just disable the IRC webhook

nothing of value lost and problem solved

[limber knot]

good work

kash just enabled +r

does this channel require nickserv registration?

ah

there we go

[spring mango]

🤖

[mental meadow]

I thought it already did

[cedar spade]

yeah, IRC people don't have to deal with Discord users any more then

[peak ginkgo]

nothing of value lost and problem solved
i agree

[twin lagoon]

dejay

[limber knot]

yeah, no more discord!

it'll be so calm in here

Discord users are smelly

ikr

Kinda like swedish people after eating surstromming

[spring mango]

[limber knot]

IRC > *

[deep crane]

@peak ginkgo problem solved. Musst added Port 25565 and 8123 to Windows Firewall

[limber knot]

Simple stop being rude

no rotten herring eater

I don’t eat itttt

I don’t even eat pickled herring

but someone in your general lineage has

I barely even eat pan fried herring

[rare otter]

@twin lagoon So what do you recommend for the server? I feel that the users deserve that the server has many users and that they don't play at 7 tps so I talk to you

[twin lagoon]

64gb

[mental meadow]

Michael u should charge for consulting

[limber knot]

I can’t be held accountable for what my ancestors have done

[twin lagoon]

effort

[peak ginkgo]

I don't even know how to use irc

[limber knot]

You may think you can't be held accountable but I'm holding you accountable. You can make up for it by sending me a postcard from sweden

[twin lagoon]

i finally managed to connect to paper's IRC a week ago or so

[rare otter]

http://prntscr.com/wflqp6 And from here?

[golden gust]

I mean, the fiiirst thing people said was to check the firewall :L

[twin lagoon]

2 * 960gb

[limber knot]

I’m going to send you nothing.

[twin lagoon]

city go to bed

aurora go to bed

[limber knot]

Disgusting subhuman

[mental meadow]

I can't sleep 😦

[worn ember]

kaaskop go to bed

[twin lagoon]

that includes you ded

[coarse lily]

Sleep is for the weak!

[limber knot]

I woke up at 7pm I can’t sleep

[worn ember]

i already took a nap which made me miss a deadline

so im all good

[rare otter]

Basically you recommend me the free option

?

[twin lagoon]

yes

[peak ginkgo]

You're not gonna need anything more for Minecraft

[twin lagoon]

1tb is plenty for most

[golden gust]

I mean, it's included in the costs

do you need more?

if not, why pay for more

[rare otter]

Look Michael if the server reaches 100 people without having 7 tps I will make you a gift a transfer to paypal for your help

[worn ember]

not enough to store all me screenshots of minecraft pp statues

[twin lagoon]

i mean 100 players with proper hardware is rough already

[potent fossil]

performance is more than the hardware

[peak ginkgo]

It's the software

It's the knowledge

It's the owner

its the

it's the

its the

it's the

[worn ember]

its minecraft, so what performance

[peak ginkgo]

discord

what the fuck

[twin lagoon]

jesus christ jay

[peak ginkgo]

watch this

[potent fossil]

dejay plz stop spamming

[worn pasture]

did you just have a stroke

[twin lagoon]

turbo

[worn pasture]

🥺

[peak ginkgo]

its the

it's the

[twin lagoon]

when are you returning to manchas

[peak ginkgo]

https://u.dejay.dev/😊🎚🖊.gif

[twin lagoon]

[worn pasture]

probably next weekend

[cosmic raft]

michael

dance!

[peak ginkgo]

something fucking my shit

[cosmic raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8oIK9M2Zj0

[twin lagoon]

but it's 2am and i don't want to dance

[cosmic raft]

dance anyhow

[twin lagoon]

i shall vibe

[peak ginkgo]

Be like dog

[worn pasture]

just dance 2021

[peak ginkgo]

[twin lagoon]

ok this can be added to my spotify

[worn pasture]

lol imagine playing minecraft

[potent fossil]

calls bodysnatcher hotline

"yes hello, michael needs to dance but won't. fix it."

[twin lagoon]

i am being THREATENED

[coarse lily]

That sounds like "Imagine testing anything"

Bad!

[rare otter]

Thank you very much for your help Michael I hope it goes well, well thanks to all of you for giving me a hand from Arg ❤️

[worn pasture]

tell that to lucko

also me

[twin lagoon]

epic

[worn pasture]

i never do tests lul

[limber knot]

test in production!

[worn pasture]

indeed

has worked well so far 🤔

[twin lagoon]

testing in production happens more often that i'd like it to be

[coarse lily]

I always code in hardcore mode.

[peak ginkgo]

neutro_protonic was shot by neutro_protonic using [Bring to boil without adding water]

Minecraft players

[stiff yarrow]

never doing tests 😱

[coarse lily]

Whenever you save a file it force pushes and deploys to prod.

[worn pasture]

nice

[peak ginkgo]

^ Also rebases

[cosmic raft]

https://i.imgur.com/x26Dk1C.png

I test!

[worn pasture]

base

[mental meadow]

pretty background

[stiff yarrow]

410 passing

[cosmic raft]

that is api alone, nossr

[worn pasture]

needs 10 more

[stiff yarrow]

yeah I noticed

what's the total

[cosmic raft]

~572 total

[stiff yarrow]

Dayumn

[worn pasture]

needs 152 less

[stiff yarrow]

that must've taken some time to write

[mental meadow]

still less than we

[cosmic raft]

well

[stiff yarrow]

who tests the tests? 😱

[worn pasture]

the users

[limber knot]

the users :D

[cosmic raft]

consider that adventure is used by velocity, luckperms, sponge, and soon paper itself

and text (adventure 3.x) is used by worldedit etc

need to make sure things work properly :p

[limber knot]

also adventure has been in development for quite a while, so tests have built up over time, with the API

[peak ginkgo]

"tests"

"trying it and hoping"

[cosmic raft]

https://github.com/KyoriPowered/adventure/blob/master/api/src/test/java/net/kyori/adventure/text/AbstractComponentTest.java

one of the largest ones I think

[potent fossil]

fuck screen use tmux

[golden gust]

yea, use tmux

screen crapping itself when you disconnect is hardly new

It's just one of the fun lesser known issues of a util which last I knew, nobody cared to maintain

[potent fossil]

if i had realized you were using screen earlier i'd have yelled at you sooner

[golden gust]

tmux supports multi-user too last I knew

[potent fossil]

i havent slept yet barty

heading towards my 24th hour atm

bart

[coarse lily]

He likes to party.

[potent fossil]

yeah i still called him leaf

[cedar spade]

BomPartyGameRealms

[golden gust]

lef is lef

and lef shal burn

.leaf

[limber knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289587909051416579/550924756111589397/Peek_2019-03-01_01-17.webm

[cedar spade]

boy is cat

[coarse lily]

Who plants a tree, bone meals it, and then immediately burns it? What kind of monster . . .

[golden gust]

it's carbon neutral

and doing a service to the world

#DeletTheLef

[coarse lily]

Pretty sure fire produces carbon dioxide.

[zealous wedge]

carbon, like from carbonchat?

[coarse lily]

I run CarbonChat on my server. A++ would recommend.

[stiff yarrow]

You ever just use a nickname for nearly 18 years and now you can’t go back

[peak ginkgo]

@spare venture How do you detach from the screen session? Are you creating it then closing your terminal?

Create your screen session screen -R myepicserver, start your cool server cd /home/myepicserver && java -jar server.jar

Then press Control A+D

You'll be sent to the state you were in before reattaching screen

Then close dat terminal

[zealous wedge]

hey, there's always nossr51

[peak ginkgo]

orrrrr

nossr49

Well you're kinda scaring me with the

"closing my terminal ends screen"

because thats how it works

Is the screen process still... alive when you come back

Yeah but like, is screen... murderizing the process

When you screen -ls is it still in there

Or when you exit does it take the entire screen and game server out

[golden gust]

screen is supposed to remain running the background process

What they're saying is that when they killed screen, it killed the server

[peak ginkgo]

Screen screens have a few states, Attached, Detached, and Zombie

[golden gust]

a semi-known issue I've seen with screen is that sometimes a detach can leave the process itself in a weird state where the input derps and the app dies

[peak ginkgo]

The screen closing too is your root issue

I'm gonna do the thing and ask if you're up to date

Screen

Yeah

screen hasn't gotten an update as far as I can remember

But whoknows

[limber knot]

Default config of systemd is to kill all processes when a user session ends but I don't remember if that applies to ssh sessions or just desktop ones

[coarse lily]

Hi.

[golden gust]

TIL that people are still kinda working on screen

[peak ginkgo]

screen is like systemd in the sense where once it starts a.. screen it'll keep that one single tty open and doing its thing

[potent fossil]

yes, not quite 18 but yes

[limber knot]

I know if you use screen to run something from gnome-terminal or kterminal in a desktop session if you log out systemd will kill your screen

[golden gust]

screen is rarely updated these days

[peak ginkgo]

If screen is just killing the process when you detach, idk what to tell you

But if screen is taking ITSELF out with you your kernal is knocking it out

brb then

[golden gust]

are you using x forwarding or something with your ssh client?

Like, disable x11 support if you have it enabled

[limber knot]

I think the systemd thing I'm talking about is only if you use it to manage user sessions which only GNOME does by default

So it shouldn't apply to a server

[golden gust]

I stopped using screen years ago as it had so many oddball issues like coming back to a server and not being able to read stdin

I did find out that 90% of the time I'd shoved it into like scrollback mode or something

but, that 10% of the time o.O

[limber knot]

tmux or mosh?

[golden gust]

I switched to tmux

mosh was sorta something I'd only heard about once or twice at the time, whereas tmux was something I just hadn't bothered with as it was k but screen was easier

[peak ginkgo]

To this day I cannot use tmux I just dont know how

[golden gust]

You sorta get used to it, tbqh

Like, what do you do with screen?

Onnnly thing I've not cleanly sussed with tmux is sending input into it

ah, send-keys

aaah, and -t sets where to send it

[peak ginkgo]

I run a mongo server in screen

Super legacy

and i refuse to move it to a service at this point

[golden gust]

oh god fuck mongo

[peak ginkgo]

I hate mongo i cant even remember why its here

[worn pasture]

wtf is a zombie screen

[golden gust]

My mate used to use mongo

[peak ginkgo]

but its heritage

https://u.dejay.dev/🌄🚜✈️.png

[limber knot]

Fucking mongo

[peak ginkgo]

everytime i reboot this machine

that mongo screen comes with it

[golden gust]

I knew because he was hosting it on the same machine as I was using, and once in a while it would literally shit the bed as mongo was flushing to the disk or something

[worn pasture]

lmao image name with emoji what a flex

[peak ginkgo]

Almost spit my drink out that's exactly what it does @golden gust

I pinged you anyway my bad

Oh I got a bot that found my mongo instance

I was like "this is actually getting connections?"

https://u.dejay.dev/📘🚆🍒.png

The bot came in, dropped a "recover your data" collection then

wrote it again

[golden gust]

it's why I just stick to mysql, I gotta look into postgres too, maaaybe h2, and if I ever care to deal with android again, h2

[peak ginkgo]

I use postgres almost religiously

apt-get remove mongo*

I'm free

[golden gust]

I'm pretty well versed with mysql, and pretty much everybody I deal with has a mysql instance running

[peak ginkgo]

I'm comfortable with mysql ig I don't have a preference

[worn ember]

i hope for you you never have to 😉

[peak ginkgo]

Take me a sec to remember the difference in syntax because most things come out in SQL flavor in my head

[worn ember]

android big poopoo

[peak ginkgo]

Then postgres is like "idk what that is"

[zealous wedge]

h2 is pretty decent

[peak ginkgo]

I had an Android app I was working on updating

then I didn't

[zealous wedge]

a fun thing about sqlite is it doesn't let you do schema modifications

h2 does let you do that though

[golden gust]

wut

[zealous wedge]

like adding/removing colums

[golden gust]

that's moronic

[zealous wedge]

they might have added support for that since like 2012/2013?

but back then that was a difference

[peak ginkgo]

Yeah but the sqlite Code of Ethics terrifies me

No one is required to follow The Rule, to know The Rule, or even to think that The Rule is a good idea. The Founder of SQLite believes that anyone who follows The Rule will live a happier and more productive life, but individuals are free to dispute or ignore that advice if they wish.

https://www.sqlite.org/codeofethics.html

[golden gust]

Yea, looks like they added it but kinda sorta "at your own risk" type deal

[peak ginkgo]

And then I cannot make this shit up

" First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength. "

[golden gust]

https://sqlite.org/lang_altertable.html

alter table is limited to all shit

[peak ginkgo]

uh mmm

maybe?

dry run

I feel like Java depends on a font

[worn ember]

one way to find out

[peak ginkgo]

Which depends on x11

[coarse lily]

I'm surprised more people haven't tried to replace sqlite with something else just based on them not liking religion.

[peak ginkgo]

So if you're comfortable with MAYBE removing java

go off

[peak ginkgo]

I do not let sqlite touch my sacred harddrives

[worn ember]

i'm sure most people just dont give a crap

[golden gust]

it'll tell you what it's gonna do

[peak ginkgo]

https://u.dejay.dev/🐒😰⛄️.png

i am all of these

[coarse lily]

A LOT of people give a crap.

[worn ember]

well then thats their problem lol

[coarse lily]

Well for sure.

But if they give a crap, again, I'm surprised they haven't tried to build an alternative.

[peak ginkgo]

Speak no useless words or words that move to laughter.

[coarse lily]

Well you know what they say, DeJay: Better to be silent and be suspected a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. :)

[zealous wedge]

there are loads of alternatives

[peak ginkgo]

Our lord and savor of all flatfile storage: JSON

[zealous wedge]

h2, postgres

[golden gust]

embedded databases are nothing new

Just, like, sqlite falls into the "good enough" for most usecases

[worn ember]

download more ram and go redis and hope your system never shuts down to update

[golden gust]

defo not something I'd store critical data in

but, you know, people use redis for persistent databases, soooo

[peak ginkgo]

@spare venture Java depends on some font

And fonts mean x11

Your servers are in java do you not have things... running

nah

[golden gust]

and apparently java...

make sure that you're not removing any critical metadata packages

removing things like the ubuntu-server package, etc, is all fun until you get to updates

[peak ginkgo]

Sometimes fucking your system is a good way to be forced to reinstall it

You'll do it right the second time

:)

[true canyon]

Hey anybody have a preferred software for tracking tax stuffs that could handle federal and state for 1099 side job while factoring in also getting a w-2 ?

(handling stuff througout the year not just at tax time)

[peak ginkgo]

Tracking? No. FILING? Let me introduce you to https://freetaxusa.com

[onyx tree]

Hello

[peak ginkgo]

hi

if you're gonna ask for help let me just cut the middleman

Please read this, then try again https://go.dejay.dev/nohi

i love this script

[coarse lily]

There's QuickBooks, if that's your cup of tea.

It's pretty standard.

[true canyon]

What if they just want to be friendly, dejay?

[potent fossil]

@peak ginkgo hello

[peak ginkgo]

@true canyon doubt

[potent fossil]

that is all

[true canyon]

I've been trying it out and frankly I'm not a fan. Also they don't do state estimated.

[peak ginkgo]

I've been here long enough to lose faith

[coarse lily]

Ah yeah they do federal IIRC but not state.

[peak ginkgo]

Earlier someone spent 30 minutes on a firewall issue

[true canyon]

Yeah they do fed estimates fine but... still don't like the interface.

[peak ginkgo]

After being told at least twice the port wasn't open

[potent fossil]

Was that the french dude

[coarse lily]

Fair enough. I haven't used any alternative, unfortunately.

[peak ginkgo]

@potent fossil The guy on Windows? Yes.

[potent fossil]

Yeah I helped him in TeamViewer lol.

[peak ginkgo]

@true canyon If you find something come back and share with the class i'd be interested in not committing fraud this fiscal year

[golden gust]

part of the many reasons I don't deal with peeps asking for support on windows

[peak ginkgo]

@potent fossil One time I took a user from #paper-help to my DMs to support them in spanish

[golden gust]

1. I don't get it, as to why you'd wanna do that, or where all the crap is that they expect to to know is

[potent fossil]

The problem was he had two rules in windows firewall which blocked incoming traffic to java.exe

[golden gust]

2. They often do stupid shit, they're running a server on windows, for one, but they often have half a clue and mess around with stuff

[potent fossil]

Yeah, was kind of a waste of time but I needed to waste time anyway. Brain far too dead to do work, but had to burn time so I could try and fix my sleep. Now only 2 hours away from goal bedtime

I feel very dead but I will make it

[golden gust]

ah, that explains the DM

it's linux

[potent fossil]

wat cat

[golden gust]

stuff loaded in memory stays in memory

[potent fossil]

oh i lowkey forgot i DMed you earlier

see? braindead

[golden gust]

nothing new there

[coarse lily]

Now you're on Java 5?

[peak ginkgo]

[golden gust]

opened the gui

How do you know it opened the GUI?

[potent fossil]

LOL

[golden gust]

stop.

x.

forwarding.

if the window showed up, you're x-forwarding

[potent fossil]

this is truly amazing

[golden gust]

It's really that simple

[peak ginkgo]

What terminal @spare venture

this is why I use Git Bash smh my head

My suggestion would be to tell the server to don't xforward

i mean

free desktop env

xstart

[potent fossil]

it was covid

that pesky little fuck

[golden gust]

barty

does your mother let you leave the house without a football helmet?

[peak ginkgo]

https://u.dejay.dev/🏕😽⚰️.png

We had this solved

20 minutes ago barty

🚪👈

[potent fossil]

im still kekking

[left swift]

Simp needs to laugh more

[potent fossil]

poki simp needs to be watching poki more

cant be talking here

[left swift]

Poki offline

[potent fossil]

vods exist

[left swift]

Probably

[heady spear]

wtf imagine not knowing about queen pokimane

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3QatjqP5Hw

[left swift]

[peak ginkgo]

this guys in the poki discord

Which I think is ridiculous but yeah

[potent fossil]

most of her simps are actually really fucking creepy, it's not typical simping

it's like, fucking weird

there are subs dedicated to zooming into her clothes...im sure you can figure out why.

[left swift]

I'm not in her discord I just grabbed some off bttv site

[potent fossil]

im amazed they havent taken that gif and turned it into material for their cause mana

[left swift]

Huh

[potent fossil]

the jamjam emoji

it bounces

"wonder what she's bouncing on" - those fucking creeps

[left swift]

[potent fossil]

correct

anyway

i dont think ima make it to 8pm

its 7:13 and im dying

[left swift]

U can do it

[potent fossil]

where the fk did you get that lmao

god damn i fucking hate simps. fuck

[left swift]

Dont hate urself

[potent fossil]

that shit became mainstream long after i came up with this name lol

[left swift]

But then what would queen poki do without 500$

Sounds like ur becoming an incel barty

That's y u make minecraft servers

[potent fossil]

oh absolutely, if i was capable of having simps i would drain them fucking dry

[left swift]

😳

Of money or

[potent fossil]

then when they were out of money i'd say "actually im in a relationship and also im done streaming guys, this is too stressful. lov u bye"

[potent fossil]

fuck you

[left swift]

[potent fossil]

i dont have brainpower for this atm

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://hypixel.net/threads/relatively-high-effort-how-much-money-does-pokimane-make-from-simps.3500357/

[potent fossil]

imagine waking up and thinking "huh. i need some money. let me plaster myself with makeup and act super cheerful and egirly on cam and get enough money for rent and more!"

what a life

[cosmic raft]

@potent fossil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlpV8eVG1lo

[potent fossil]

he is we

haven't listened to them in quite a long time

im listening to tswift atm tho

will after

[left swift]

Yall just haters

[potent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/im-hatin-hater-i-dont-like-you-jealous-hatin-gif-13870847

and proud of it

[left swift]

No it's funny makes ppl dumby mad

[potent fossil]

mana is a simp

[left swift]

I'll simp anyone for a shoutout

[potent fossil]

that will be $500 to get a quick 2 second shoutout

[left swift]

Good thing I got my stimulus check

[potent fossil]

LMAO

it's true though

:/

lol

[left swift]

Nah the ppl aren't old enough to get a stimulus check that watch

That's what someone who gave it all to pokimane would say

[potent fossil]

I didn't either, parents claimed me on their taxes

same

i mean, i get to live in their house for free while i finish up school so, really, im chillin

still wanted some money tho

[left swift]

[potent fossil]

something something 24 years old is the limit for claiming a dependent child? idk if i read it correctly

ill be that old so idk

kek

[coarse lily]

Well there goes my idea of claiming a bunch of friends on my taxes.

[potent fossil]

well yeah, im still a dependent as well till I get my degree and head out. few years off that because im stupid

but idk, dependent != dependent child for the irs

[left swift]

My mom kicked me out as soon as I finished high school lol

[potent fossil]

slightly different apparently

press F for mana

[coarse lily]

The IRS are a bunch of haters.

[potent fossil]

oh shit, look what youtube music just recommended for me https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=UYocLBXr7hQ

ima jam

[coarse lily]

Only if you make more than a certain amount

[left swift]

Humble flex

Actual boomer

[coarse lily]

I mean I think the 1099 limit is like $600

So it's not really that much of a brag.

That's like one week of a $15/hr job.

If you want a REAL humble brag I'll show you my W2.

[left swift]

U can give me 600$ if it's not that big of a deal

[coarse lily]

(I don't have a W2)

So now you're humble bragging about making 20k? C'mon barty!

[left swift]

Ok I get off now, dont forget to stan poki tonight

[coarse lily]

I don't even want to know who that is.

[potent fossil]

lmao np, should throw you back if spotify does its job correctly

[rose grail]

wtf

[viral hornet]

Uhh

Can mods change names? xD

[unkempt drift]

yeah... tbh Camm is a little in appropriate...

[viral hornet]

I'm sorry Machine 😔

What would you like me to be renamed?

[zealous wedge]

yeah <@&748618676189528155> another concerning nick

[unkempt drift]

if it was 3 Ms, its all good 😆

[zealous wedge]

Cammm

[viral hornet]

I got chu

[sharp sentinel]

?warn @rose grail Nickname

[leaden oxide]

Warning logged for Kageyamas dirty cum sock#9886. I couldn't DM them. || Nickname

[zealous wedge]

ty :3

[viral hornet]

Matt

Mattt*

[sharp sentinel]

I changed their name also

[rose grail]

what

[sharp sentinel]

But I think they did it at the same time lol, so idk which one applied

[potent fossil]

Fuck that song. When I was younger I played the shit out of it and pavlov'd myself to get physically sick when I hear it

[spiral robin]

good evening papermc

[potent fossil]

hello, aber.

i am angery at you

so he ignores me

ok

[spiral robin]

What

Why @potent fossil

[golden gust]

if it makes you feel better, I'd ignore you too

[potent fossil]

because nameless v3 isnt out yet

[spiral robin]

ok

V2 full release Jan 27

[potent fossil]

really

[untold copper]

why is making circle progress bars in css so hard

[spiral robin]

give or take yeah

[potent fossil]

its not you're just bad snoopa

make a normal progress bar and apply border radius 100%

[untold copper]

uh what

XD

lemme try that

[potent fossil]

ya

[untold copper]

ooh i can use bootstrap progress barz

[spiral robin]

bulma.io

[vestal jasper]

me, but it's everything I listened to in HS

[untold copper]

simple i am dum can you tell me how to .-.

[spiral robin]

@vestal jasper

[vestal jasper]

hi

[spiral robin]

Is carbon chat released yet

[untold copper]

idk how to make a NORMAL progress bar as well XD

alrighty

lemme set border-radius to 100%

[potent fossil]

wasnt exactly my intention but this is kinda cool https://codepen.io/algorithmjunkie/full/abmYQLa

@untold copper

[coarse lily]

That's kind of a weird progress bar.

[potent fossil]

yea lol just showing proof of concept

also, i didnt add the value and max, so it's doing a "loading" bar

technically

here, here's a half-ass 45% version. https://codepen.io/algorithmjunkie/full/abmYQLa

as for making a more advanced one with a border around it or smth my brain is far too tired so idk, maybe turbo the css god will show up

[untold copper]

well that kinda worked

getting there

interesting...

I don't think this will work, how do we make it load in a circular pattern, like from the center

lol

[unkempt drift]

maybe could have something that rotates

[spiral robin]

Hcaptcha sucks

Isn't it like 3 pages

no

Is it on minecraft.net login?

Wtf

[void void]

bruh

[untold copper]

the hell

[main hornet]

that one sucks it literally took me ~30 minutes for the 2 tries i did that

[coarse lily]

That's kinda terrifying, too.

[vestal jasper]

https://codepen.io/draycia/pen/gOweQEM
I got bored so I added a shitty animation based off your codepen @potent fossil

god it's been so long since i've touched web

[coarse lily]

Vic make sure you get the web's permission before you go touching it.

Maybe buy it dinner first? Romance it a bit, y'know?

I think Snoopa is looking more for a "progress ring" kinda thing

https://css-tricks.com/building-progress-ring-quickly/

[heady spear]

@potent fossil i wanna revive irongolem . u were supposed to contribute D:

[coarse lily]

What's irongolem?

[heady spear]

coreprotect replacement

[coarse lily]

Ooo nice.

[heady spear]

i accidentally looked at the coreprotect source code once and got nightmares

so I decided to whip up my own thing, and then I got bored and abandoned it

[coarse lily]

Well now I have the utmost faith in the project!

[heady spear]

One major problem was the lack of good command APIs to reply on

but now I have Cloud so uh

https://github.com/Incendo/IronGolem I did get pretty far. Should probably try to finish it 👀

[coarse lily]

Does it handle inventories?

[heady spear]

not yet, though it's supposed to

[coarse lily]

I'll PR you a readme ;)

[warm anchor]

~~can it roll back my nightmare last night? ~~

[heady spear]

I have so much I'd like to change in the project though. Might continue it at some point

but I have so many projects going atm and no energy to work on any of them lmao

Hyperverse is in the middle of a refactor, PlotSquared v6 has been delayed for several months, Cloud needs documentation and my FAWE work is broken D:

[waxen panther]

smh you started like two projects last week smh

[coarse lily]

Oh you made FAWE?

[heady spear]

meant to write fork

though my FAWE pr is also broken

[coarse lily]

Everything's broken!

What kind of Minecraft do you think Billy's playing?

[warm anchor]

Survival. Go ping him to find out?

[waxen panther]

[exotic heron]

anyone has good minigame ideas?

:c

[bold iron]

AuthMe good or not?

??

why online mode need login also?

[warm anchor]

Don’t support pirate

[bold iron]

[unkempt drift]

https://offlinemo.de

[warm anchor]

That never gets old

[limber knot]

I am very much not ready for morning ;w;

[waxen panther]

GOOD MORNING PROXIMYST

[limber knot]

e

good evening Proximyst :3

it's a lovely day for colud

*cloud

it's a lovely day to figure out how to work again

[coarse lily]

Welcome to January.

[limber knot]

it's so COOOLD

im sitting in my 10kg blanket in my chair n freezing ;w;

oof

review requested on a PR called "Please CheckStyle"

[heady spear]

yes Proxi it's way too cold. It's rude

[limber knot]

yes,

[heady spear]

I only have a bunch of salmon at home and I don't want to eat it

I've eaten tacos two days in a row

what should I eaaaat? I wanna go to the store .-.

[spiral robin]

Pizza

[limber knot]

I've eaten takeout many days in a row

I should make something ez to get back into making my own food

[heady spear]

there's this vegan pizza which is only like 700kcal and contains a fair bit of protein. I could get that and pretend that it's healthy

[spiral robin]

do it

[heady spear]

oh fuck i gotta call the tax office today

[coarse lily]

700 calories doesn't seem like much for pizza.

That's like a slice of pizza here.

[limber knot]

anamma mexicana, city?

[heady spear]

fucking hell proxi

this is a mess

[limber knot]

wtf

[heady spear]

their phone service is a nightmare

they asked me to describe it 950 times

[limber knot]

oh

[heady spear]

and it was like "use fewer words"

[limber knot]

skatteverket sucks in every way ever yes

[heady spear]

then a dude answered and was like "what do u want"

I explained nd he was like "ok let me connect you to someone else"

[untold copper]

I love minecraft music uwu

[heady spear]

and then it disconnected

[limber knot]

kek

:KEKA:

[untold copper]

didn

t

work

[heady spear]

now it's just silent

[spiral robin]

I'm pretty sure she knew that snoopa

[heady spear]

i can hear someone typing in the background but they're quiet

[limber knot]

I want a mexicana cityyyy ;w;

[heady spear]

....

proxi help

im gonna scream

[limber knot]

say something idiot

[heady spear]

it just echos...

[coarse lily]

We should map ".help" to "say something idiot"

[heady spear]

what the hell is this

im quite literally talking to myself

did he connect me to myself

??

[limber knot]

lmfao

[minor badge]

@unkempt drift PLEASE

we JUST got under 100

[olive marlin]

Lol

[unkempt drift]

😈

[olive marlin]

Mm 19 more to go today?

[unkempt drift]

I wanted to get to 100 before Mini woke up, idk if I will

[limber knot]

i will pay Z750 with tacos if he reviews PRs full time 😳

[heady spear]

ok it's been 5 minutes of just silence

I'll call them later ig...

[limber knot]

I enjoy the fact my coworkers adopted my "i am not valid, do not trust me" values

[untold copper]

where ya'll at reeee

[coarse lily]

proxi those are . . . values?

[limber knot]

values in tests

[coarse lily]

Oh

I thought you meant like

As individuals.

That sounded horrifying.

Or at least depressing

[limber knot]

these boring asses just used to write stuff like String invalidHash = "invalidHash"

[coarse lily]

I got a stern talking to once for writing a bunch of error messages that said stuff like "Maybe login, stupid?"

[limber knot]

I can understand both perspectives

[coarse lily]

Haha yeah now I can too.

But I was a young lad so I was grumpy at the time about it :)

[limber knot]

Sadly some stupid [redacted] stuff match directly on the errors we write for localisation purposes, so we can't really do that

[coarse lily]

Haha

Worth it

[cedar smelt]

Aikar autocorrects to Solar

Fact of the day ^

[spiral robin]

Aikar

[cedar smelt]

On gboard

(Android)

[spiral robin]

Using that xd

[cedar smelt]

Lol

[spiral robin]

Probably have it in my dictionary now

[cedar smelt]

Yeah

[vernal moth]

😈

[unkempt drift]

Yeah I got tired

[untold copper]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-mission-failed-call-of-duty-ghost-gif-13071756

[unkempt drift]

And I was bored of scrolling through issues trying to find something

[untold copper]

what record to make if i wanna redirect tos.server.net to a google forms link in cloudflare?

found it, need to make a page rule

[rare otter]

Good morning

[untold copper]

gm

[rare otter]

I had a question with the theme of the Aikars flags, I still do not understand why you have to put the same amount of ram both minimum memory and maximum memory

[vestal jasper]

It's going to use it eventually

[untold copper]

Because its good

[vestal jasper]

And reallocating memory takes time

Might as well just prealloc

[spiral robin]

[untold copper]

anybody know a service that offers free page rules cos i used up my 3 in cloudflare kekw

[spiral robin]

pay

Worth it

[untold copper]

if i could i would :c

[snow hatch]

I'd just setup nginx somewhere and do that with its config

[rare otter]

Example I have this configuration of aikars flags java -Xms65G -Xmx65G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=16M -XX:G1ReservePercent=15 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=20 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs/ -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar server.jar

[untold copper]

wha

[rare otter]

It's okay, I can't imagine?

[snow hatch]

65GB for a minecraft server? Holy

[spiral robin]

Ummm

Might wanna tune that down a bit pal

[viral hornet]

I think that's worse off, @rare otter

[spiral robin]

To like

[viral hornet]

You don't want it to be that high lol

[spiral robin]

Uhhh

10

@viral hornet

[viral hornet]

8-10 is fine

Aber

[rare otter]

This is the theme that we have 128G of ram and more than 60 plugins that's why I assigned so much ram, because this dedicated does not support much by the processor

[next frost]

I mean you can use 65GB with the Epsilon GC

[vernal moth]

Yeah i would start at 10 gb and go up if needed, lol

[rare otter]

I explain, I have many bugs but now I will change to another dedicated with a better processor which I would recommend in the beginning and maximum of the flags aikars to assign?

I know that 65g is too much but they are rookie mistakes that I want to keep correcting

We have more than 50 plugins for a survival so I assigned that amount of ram if I am wrong I would like to know how much ram could be assigned

[next frost]

I know someone running at 6GB with 80 plugins or something like that

as mentioned by others multiple times now, use something around 8-12 GB

[rare otter]

6G 80 plugins with how many users?

[coarse lily]

There is no easy answer to that. Some plugins require more RAM/CPU than others. It depends on the server and the setup.

[prisma belfry]

This is probably the wrong place, but just a short question.
Is there even a v2 api yet? I am asking this becuase AMP of Cubecoders seems to be using a v2 link.

[spiral robin]

Yes

Read announcemtns

[coarse lily]

You set a reasonable amount of RAM to it and then you adjust based on the performance of the server.

50 plugins is a lot

[prisma belfry]

oh ok ty. Sorry for the unnecessary question

[coarse lily]

I'd work on paring that down.

But set a reasonable amount of RAM and increase it if the server needs more.

[rare otter]

I have understood that no server runs above 16G of ram, I understand your point that are many plugins but at the end of the day are too many useful plugins that meet a unique function within our survival

java -Xms65G -Xmx65G So instead of using 65G you would recommend using 10G in xms and xmx?

[spiral robin]

Yes

[rare otter]

10G with more than 50 plugins I will have to test how the performance would go since we have a survival that touches 100 users online

Could it be that with 65G the famous bottleneck has been generated so to speak?

[next frost]

your ram will likely not be the bottle neck

[untold copper]

I run 50 plugins with 7 gigs of ram

[untold copper]

oh makes sense

give it lots of ram

:)