general

[desert cradle]

Who has a minecraft server

[limpid comet]

im the only traefik now

[waxen panther]

wtf where 😡

[limpid comet]

click on ur name

[twin lagoon]

yes i have minecraft server

play.hypixel.net

join me pls

[waxen panther]

yes i have a minecraft server

[meager tusk]

Ok Michale

as always you are funny

[waxen panther]

play.minecraft.net

[meager tusk]

[desert cradle]

How do I join

[waxen panther]

[twin lagoon]

go launch minecraft java

1.16.4

then direct connect to play.lemoncloud.org and buy top #1 rank

[meager tusk]

Yes.

I agree.

Go do that.

[waxen panther]

i saw a guy playing lemoncloud earlier

on his discord status

[twin lagoon]

[meager tusk]

That's good.

[untold copper]

only $69.69

[meager tusk]

Keep playing LemonCloud.

[desert cradle]

I have bedrock

[meager tusk]

Yep.

[minor badge]

@waxen panther the french library v nocturnal waltz ?

[twin lagoon]

oh idk about bedrock then

bedrock sucks

[waxen panther]

what are those words

[twin lagoon]

$70 is $70

[minor badge]

they're EPIC songs

[twin lagoon]

[desert cradle]

Wow

[waxen panther]

i will discover these epic songs

[minor badge]

yos

[untold copper]

me eating broccoly

[waxen panther]

it was this gamer*

[meager tusk]

guys you should connect to origin realms @twin lagoon

[untold copper]

*om nom nom*

[waxen panther]

im bigger than that

[limpid comet]

wf broccolai

[warm anchor]

Lol

[untold copper]

heh nice

[limpid comet]

you were in contact with javascript and you didnt exterminate it

[waxen panther]

i wasn't in CONTACT smh

he just said something in mcmmo when i was bored and clicking all my servers

[limpid comet]

can u write websites in wasm yet

[untold copper]

y u no virtually murder him is what bluely wants to know

[visual egret]

$ cd papermc/discord/
$ sudo rm -rf *

[desert cradle]

Who else has a minecraft server

[waxen panther]

you dont write websites in wasm

[untold copper]

me xD

[visual egret]

bruh

[limpid comet]

ok webasm is deprecated

[waxen panther]

people here aren't bedrock players

this is a java mc place

[visual egret]

wasm is just javascript but better

[waxen panther]

oskar that's a stupid thing to say

[desert cradle]

😊Bed or java

[untold copper]

j a v a

[waxen panther]

wasm isn't trying to replace js at all

[twin lagoon]

watch out

he has a cracked minecraft server

[waxen panther]

[untold copper]

still j a v a

[limpid comet]

yeah i've been kinda trolling

[desert cradle]

Ok

[limpid comet]

but oskar cringe

[visual egret]

how?

[limpid comet]

read brocy

[desert cradle]

Who has bedrock server

[limpid comet]

nobody stop asking

pls

[waxen panther]

go ask in the official minecraft server t pain, no one here has a bedrock server

[untold copper]

why would u have one of those

[meager tusk]

yes you do, or rather, you will, indirectly

[visual egret]

i got a bderock server

[meager tusk]

in the next few years

[visual egret]

its called geysermc

[meager tusk]

js engines switching over to WASM

[waxen panther]

yes i know

[desert cradle]

Really yay😊

[limpid comet]

wtf pog

[waxen panther]

it's a dumb thing to say though cuz it's not really what wasm is

[limpid comet]

js-engine-as-a-service wen

[waxen panther]

people just see it and r like !! !! !

[visual egret]

test.geysermc.org have fun

now go away

[desert cradle]

What the server ip

[meager tusk]

remember when people made tutorials on JS interfacing with WASM

[waxen panther]

can you guys stop feeding this guy pls

[meager tusk]

[visual egret]

test.geysermc.org

[limpid comet]

holy fuck

can we go take over a new channel

[twin lagoon]

WASM

[meager tusk]

WASM

Michael acting like he knows what WASM is

[waxen panther]

lol

[visual egret]

WASM POG

[twin lagoon]

i just know that MSFS mods use WASM

[waxen panther]

oskar what the fuck do you use WASM for

please tell me

i would love to know

[untold copper]

ya'll having a WASMgasm

[visual egret]

my website

[meager tusk]

how

why

[visual egret]

rn its in dev

[waxen panther]

what in your website

[meager tusk]

wtf

[waxen panther]

specifically

[meager tusk]

[limpid comet]

and what language are you using

[twin lagoon]

wtf wtf idriz

[visual egret]

my server dashboard thing

[waxen panther]

???

[meager tusk]

you WRITE WASM?

no way lol

[visual egret]

no

[waxen panther]

this guy jesus

[limpid comet]

he just flips bits until it works

[meager tusk]

yea i was boutta say

[cunning raft]

123

[visual egret]

im using python/c#

[waxen panther]

"what do use wasm for in your website" "err srever desaksboard thingggg"

[visual egret]

all in heavy dev

[twin lagoon]

https://github.com/i-net-software/JWebAssembly

[meager tusk]

oskar

[visual egret]

yeah

[limpid comet]

that is cursed

[meager tusk]

what language do you use

[visual egret]

for

[twin lagoon]

python

[meager tusk]

your server dashboard

[spiral robin]

Skript

[waxen panther]

i did some with rust, it waz fun

[limpid comet]

so it compiles java bytecode to wasm? no more jvm?

[visual egret]

backend or frontend?

[waxen panther]

bruh

[meager tusk]

the part you said uses wasm

[limpid comet]

LOL

skript compiler for wasm

[visual egret]

python/c#

[limpid comet]

basde

[meager tusk]

wait so python or c#

or python AND c#

[waxen panther]

im sorry indriz

[meager tusk]

[waxen panther]

this is what paper general is like 24/7 now

[meager tusk]

are you doing a microservice based backend for a server dashboard

[visual egret]

im working on 2 seperate versions ill see which one is nicer to write

[meager tusk]

PAIN

[visual egret]

first time using wasm

[meager tusk]

PAINN

WHY'D YOU SAY THAT

[waxen panther]

i'd love to see the src honestly

[meager tusk]

oskar hear me out

[visual egret]

backend runs python-flask

[vernal moth]

Imagine using wasm

Smh

[meager tusk]

for a server dashboard you really shouldn't care

what language you use

[twin lagoon]

mini mojmap wen

[cunning raft]

mini hangar wen

[vernal moth]

I write my Webservices in cobol

[meager tusk]

COBOL?

[twin lagoon]

hangar wen

[meager tusk]

Ok try x86

[vernal moth]

.g cobol on wheelchairs

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/azac/cobol-on-wheelchair

[olive marlin]

I was considering using Rust for frontend only because I use Rust on the backend. But then decided I can do 99% of things server-side lol

[meager tusk]

rust.. for frontend

[olive marlin]

Yes, why not?

[meager tusk]

I touch rust with a 10 foot pole on a "hello world" application let alone on the frontend

[olive marlin]

Everything in one language 🙂

[meager tusk]

fuck that syntax

[visual egret]

brainfuck wasm frontend

[olive marlin]

Proximyst Idriz is bullying Rust 😦

[vernal moth]

Java for the backend, javascript for the front end, how it's made to be

[limber knot]

i'm bullying idriz

[olive marlin]

Good.

[visual egret]

🤮

[waxen panther]

oskar.

[limpid comet]

oksar pls

[visual egret]

what

[limpid comet]

i only have so many 🤡s

[visual egret]

like yourself?

[vernal moth]

On the server, everything goes. Everything that isn't php

[waxen panther]

my soul hurts

[limpid comet]

damn

i jus got owned by oskar

[vernal moth]

Are you a php developer?

[waxen panther]

no i was talking about oskar

i dont touch php

[meager tusk]

I hate rust

[limpid comet]

i made a cool website in php once

[meager tusk]

[minor badge]

can we like not try to bully one another all the time?

[meager tusk]

why is it so hard

[waxen panther]

just get better

[limpid comet]

back before i understood server vs client

[meager tusk]

just let me write my java in peace

[limpid comet]

ikr

java so ezz

rust scawy 😳

[meager tusk]

typescript

[vernal moth]

I wanted to do productive stuff today

[limpid comet]

no

[visual egret]

lets settle our differences and smash our hard drives

[vernal moth]

Then I just was stuff in bed all day

[limpid comet]

tyypescript bad

[meager tusk]

@vernal moth me everyday

[vernal moth]

What's a hard drive?

[untold copper]

ok but u get me an ssd then

[meager tusk]

what's a "hard drive"

do you mean ssd?

[untold copper]

;-;

[twin lagoon]

ssd only storage

[untold copper]

;-;

[waxen panther]

[minor badge]

i'll show you a hard drive, idriz ;)

[vernal moth]

Hard drives are so 2015

[meager tusk]

I'm 16

[limpid comet]

proxi calm down

[meager tusk]

[austere ivy]

proxi stop :)

[minor badge]

wtf

[twin lagoon]

[meager tusk]

so back off

[limpid comet]

repoed

[minor badge]

idriz baby ?

[limpid comet]

no winky faces

[austere ivy]

idriz you're 16 too??

[meager tusk]

yea

[limpid comet]

im 42

[minor badge]

idriz go googoo?

[meager tusk]

wow brian you're 16 too?

[austere ivy]

yeah lol

[untold copper]

mah HDD takes 15 seconds to boot ok

its a good HDD

[limpid comet]

goo goo xD

[untold copper]

👀

[meager tusk]

why am i not an old prune then

[minor badge]

👩🏻‍🍼 dis us idriz ?

[meager tusk]

[visual egret]

snoopa i think we should abort

[meager tusk]

@minor badge yea

and?

[vernal moth]

Now imagine you had an ssd snoopa

[untold copper]

agreed

[visual egret]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mrw-college-year-G7iGNzr3VBING

[minor badge]

little child idriz .

[meager tusk]

i'm not a child

[minor badge]

sure ur not .

[vernal moth]

Now proxi is bulling ^^

[limpid comet]

her eu go idris 🍼

[minor badge]

idriz always bullies me

[untold copper]

dwink up

here comes da airplayn

[meager tusk]

this is one of my roles in LG

https://i.imgur.com/idDWWnn.png

@twin lagoon

[minor badge]

lmfao

[waxen panther]

who has tried the game streaming services and whats your recommendation? I need one that lets you login to your own steam account like shadow though

[twin lagoon]

shut the fuck up

thx

[minor badge]

that's actually great

[meager tusk]

all of them are terrible

[waxen panther]

Yeah I know

[untold copper]

wtf why

[limpid comet]

just do steam link or whatever

[meager tusk]

well nvidia's one was fine

[waxen panther]

I'm at home with only my laptop atm and I need to play hearts of iron before i cry

[worthy geode]

I tried Stadia and it was pretty nice, but it does not have the Steam login you want

[limpid comet]

omg

hearts of iron

[minor badge]

nvidia shield, idriz?

[limpid comet]

😳

[meager tusk]

no im not sure

[vernal moth]

I tried stadia before it was released, a prototype, that was fun

[meager tusk]

what it was called

[waxen panther]

Yeah stadia is cool but no steam :(

[meager tusk]

but they had a game streaming service that worked fine

my friend played csgo on that

[minor badge]

geforce now?

[vernal moth]

Gefore now

[limpid comet]

yes

[meager tusk]

yep

[vernal moth]

It's basically just a vm

[austere ivy]

hey wait blue you're 17 right?

[limpid comet]

the g in geforce stands for greg

no im 28

[vernal moth]

I think that other thing, shadow? was better for that

[austere ivy]

oh ok gotcha

haha oooold lmao

[vernal moth]

.g shadow game streaming

[worthy geode]

wasn't geforce now pretty expensive? idk

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://shadow.tech/

[limpid comet]

yes i just broke my back currently in ambulance rn

[minor badge]

there's no way bluely is a day past 20 .

[waxen panther]

i can't find any more memberships than this

[limpid comet]

wtf

[waxen panther]

and i dont want to sign up for 6 months lol

[limpid comet]

Well, off to visit your mother!

[vernal moth]

25 euro for 6 months seems fine?

[limpid comet]

brocc

thats rtx on

[untold copper]

can be cheaper

[limpid comet]

u have 2 get it

[heady spear]

25 euro per month for 6 months

[austere ivy]

well at least ur not me, blue

[waxen panther]

It's a good price but I'm only going to be using it for the next 4 days :p

[worthy geode]

yeah, thought its per month

[heady spear]

€150

[vernal moth]

It's not

[austere ivy]

I have an appointment at the urologist in an hour :pepehands:

[heady spear]

or sry it's pounds as well

[waxen panther]

it's total

[heady spear]

what

[meager tusk]

i suck at blockbench

[heady spear]

o

ok then stop complaining bitch

[worthy geode]

but I don't need RTX or whatever priority is, would be nice if they had a tier in between. Like normal, just without the session limit

[limpid comet]

i wonder if geforce now can rnu cyberpunk

[waxen panther]

"extended session length" is also kinda sus to me?

[heady spear]

I wonder if bluely can be smart

[worthy geode]

It runs pretty great on Stadia, so would be bad if nvidia could not get it to run

[limpid comet]

that is very hurtful and rude city

[waxen panther]

i'd rather there was no limit, they dont say what it is though

[limpid comet]

or should i say, Citymonstret

[waxen panther]

if it's like a 10 hours then w/e

[heady spear]

good

[twin lagoon]

rtx

[heady spear]

i hope ur sad

[limpid comet]

very sad

[heady spear]

cry bitch

[untold copper]

I dont have rtx :c

[meager tusk]

Michael spending 10,000 euros on his new pc every 2 months

[limpid comet]

WOW wtf

[twin lagoon]

[limpid comet]

no need for profanity

[untold copper]

.g how to get rtx on 1050ti

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-rtx-voice-all-nvidia-gpus-including-older-geforce-gtx-cards

[waxen panther]

[meager tusk]

LOL

[limpid comet]

really snoopa

[heady spear]

I wanna replace my 2080

it sucks

[limpid comet]

ill trade for my laptop 2060

[spiral robin]

Imagine still talking in paper general

[meager tusk]

had someone today ask me to let duplicate names to connect

like please no

[twin lagoon]

RTX is such a fucking gimmick lmao

cyberpunk raytracing shit is garbage

[waxen panther]

it's stupid

[twin lagoon]

any other game using raytracing is garbage

[untold copper]

they released rtx for 1650+1660+all the others

[twin lagoon]

no they didn't

[untold copper]

not for 1050ti

[heady spear]

nuhuh tomb raider looked sick

[waxen panther]

graphics were good enough 3 years ago imo

[twin lagoon]

that's not how RTX works

[meager tusk]

^

[limpid comet]

rtx is literally just a brand

[twin lagoon]

rtx voice is not rtx

[untold copper]

yes they did

[meager tusk]

rtx is only 2000 series

no they didn't

[waxen panther]

holy shit snoopa

[untold copper]

lemme re-check

[limpid comet]

what are you even checking

[twin lagoon]

there is nothing to re-check

[waxen panther]

rtx voice

[limpid comet]

any gpu can do ray tracing

[heady spear]

rtx cannot just be "released" for existing cards wtf

[vernal moth]

Rtx is just marketing bullshit for a ray tracing api

[limpid comet]

rtx cards just tend to do it better

[untold copper]

^^

[twin lagoon]

????????????

[vernal moth]

It can tho

[untold copper]

I think so

lemme

[limpid comet]

yeah so then what are u asking

[untold copper]

check

[vernal moth]

It will run like shit tho

[waxen panther]

nvidia lock their rtx technology to the rtx cards though

[limpid comet]

i mean, rtx cards will run like shit too if you get the right one

[vernal moth]

I mean, it already runs like shit

[limpid comet]

i have a laptop 2060

cyberpunk will melt my computer

[austere ivy]

rtx stands for real textural eXistence, previous games using filthy rasterization don't truly have "texture", they just have images mapped onto planes :smh:

[untold copper]

Image result for can you use rtx on gtx 1660 ti
Nvidia has released a new driver that allows ray tracing effects to be switched on in GeForce GTX 10- and 16-series graphics cards, such as the GTX 1080 and the GTX 1660

[meager tusk]

dude

that doesn't mean

[limpid comet]

thats not rtx

[heady spear]

I have my 2080 and can't even reach 144Hz on fortnite with highest settings

dumb card

time to get a 3080

[meager tusk]

your card will just die Snoopa

[twin lagoon]

shut up city

[meager tusk]

that your card?

[limpid comet]

ill take ur 2080 thanks city

[untold copper]

yeah ofc it will

1050ti

[stiff yarrow]

Doesn't nvidia push other stuff under RTX? Or am I misremembering

[heady spear]

nah I'll throw it into the ocean

dumb ass card

[limpid comet]

rtx voice nossr

[heady spear]

dumb loud ass card

[limpid comet]

it's the new Epic Gamer Brand™️

[waxen panther]

i can be your ocean <3

[untold copper]

today I had a smokey smell from mah PC XD

[limpid comet]

xDDD

[stiff yarrow]

What resolution? That doesn't sound right

[waxen panther]

still using it without it being checked

[heady spear]

1440p

it dips down below 100

[untold copper]

MC+shaders gets my gpu to 85 degrees EASY

[heady spear]

all the time

unusable

[vernal moth]

They do everything, the lineup with hardware support for raytracing us called rtx. The sdk is called rtx. They got shit like rtx voice, it's a mess, they just slap that ontop everything

[twin lagoon]

city why do you play fortnite smh

[heady spear]

Fortnite is FUN

[limpid comet]

yeah city something is fucked there

[heady spear]

I'm good at it >:(((

[limpid comet]

my 2060 hits 100 on high

[austere ivy]

1440p 👌

[untold copper]

fortnite is fun with friends*

[twin lagoon]

1440p

[limpid comet]

tho that is just 1080p

im a 1080p gamer, got it

[untold copper]

same

[austere ivy]

hey city you sure you plugged your display cable into your gpu and not your motherboard?

[heady spear]

....

yes

[untold copper]

xD

[austere ivy]

:)

[limpid comet]

he would know

[vernal moth]

Imagine having an igpu

[heady spear]

I will say tho this is with raytracing enabled in fortnite lmao

[vernal moth]

My motherboard has no video output

[limpid comet]

hey dont be mean to my server's motherboard

[untold copper]

since when you been playing fortnite?

[twin lagoon]

[heady spear]

with raytracing off I go into the 300s

[austere ivy]

"technically" I'm a 720p 30fps gamer :)

[limpid comet]

oh ok

yeah city that makes more sense

[stiff yarrow]

Well, in my experience anything above 90hz was great, I barely noticed a diff between 90hz -> 120hz+

[heady spear]

ye i know lol

[untold copper]

since when you been playing fortnite?

[limpid comet]

i need 144hz anything else hurts my head

[heady spear]

idk I got a 144hz monitor after brocc raved about it all the time

[twin lagoon]

City you can play Fortnite with snoopa

:D

[limpid comet]

144hz S L A P S

[heady spear]

now I use my 4k monitor for discord

[untold copper]

ye :D

sometime i guess

[worthy geode]

Got 75hz, which is fine because in most games I can't get more fps with my GPU anyways 😄

[limpid comet]

omgg city and snoopa bffs

[heady spear]

I'd rather uninstall the game

[untold copper]

-_-

[limpid comet]

so based

[twin lagoon]

[heady spear]

than play with whoever snoopy is

[stiff yarrow]

I have one monitor that supports 165hz in an OC profile, I have never turned it on, I even bought a cord spec'd to output it and I still haven't bothered

[spiral robin]

🍿

[untold copper]

bulli

[limpid comet]

lol

i haven't tried antyhing 144+ so i can't speak to it but 144hz does wonders

though chromium on linux doesnt support 144

and that means electron

[untold copper]

i just asked you since when u been playing fortnite -.-

[limpid comet]

stuck at 60fps 😔

[worthy geode]

Did you never turn on the monitor or the profile? oO

[vernal moth]

Guys do something useful, give me movie suggestions

[limpid comet]

the thing

but the og

i forget the year

[heady spear]

I started a couple of months ago lmao

[twin lagoon]

tenet

[untold copper]

jhonny english

[stiff yarrow]

@limpid comet what do you mean

[heady spear]

my friend and I got bored during quarantine

[spiral robin]

Money heist series

[untold copper]

cloverfield paradox

[heady spear]

I also got her to start no-lifing wow

[untold copper]

frozen 2

[vernal moth]

Saw tenet drunk in cinema, can't recommend

[meager tusk]

Dutch people are awesome by the way just saying that in here

no context just saying it

[limpid comet]

chromium/electron/whatever only renders at 60fps on my 144hz monitor

[stiff yarrow]

Are you talking about gsync/freesync interaction?

[limpid comet]

only on linux tho, windows fine

[heady spear]

She is neat tho but her aim in FN is still pretty shite

[stiff yarrow]

Yeah adaptive sync stuff on linux sucks right now

[limpid comet]

:(

i want an amd card

[stiff yarrow]

I have one

[limpid comet]

i want a full amd laptop

[stiff yarrow]

Wayland 4 lyfe

[vernal moth]

Saw money heist and cloverfield paradox already

Gimme more

[limpid comet]

i'd love an APU with decent-ish integrated graphics & a sauced gpu

[untold copper]

@vernal moth
Passengers
The cloverfield paradox
all the star wars
The new star treks
Frozen + frozen 2
Disney movies are gr8

Gravity

[limpid comet]

so i could use the apu for linux and gpu passthroguh for playing games on windows (stuff that proton doesnt support)

[stiff yarrow]

used to have my X crash daily on nvidia, wayland doesn't ever crash

[vernal moth]

All watches already

[heady spear]

yes take movie suggestions from a kindergartner

[untold copper]

huh

[void void]

Do paper accept PRs for old versions?

[limpid comet]

damn

[untold copper]

Jhonny english

[limpid comet]

i have had awesome stability luckily

[untold copper]

Is nice

[vernal moth]

No

[limpid comet]

johnny

[twin lagoon]

city

[limpid comet]

not jhonny

[untold copper]

yeah my bad

[heady spear]

@minor badge uwuwuuu oowowow uwuw wuw xxoxox

[vernal moth]

Only supported versions

[void void]

1.13 - 1.15 paper dupe is out

Yes

[vernal moth]

Which is just 1.16.4 right now

[worthy geode]

1.13, pog

[stiff yarrow]

My X would crash specifically when using IntelliJ, don't know why, but switched to wayland ages ago so I don't care

[vernal moth]

1.15 support was dropped

[minor badge]

@heady spear uwu ?

[limpid comet]

super weird

[untold copper]

srsly mini just browse through netflix xD

[vernal moth]

Is the dupe fixer in 1.16.4?

[void void]

I can dupe on any paper 1.15 server LOL

[heady spear]

awa !!

[twin lagoon]

we are aware yes

[limpid comet]

and even then i'm on a laptop with nvidia which is like the worst out of em all

[twin lagoon]

use 1.16

[limpid comet]

but running bspwm w/ x it works fine

[twin lagoon]

[minor badge]

@heady spear how are u

[vernal moth]

Didn't everybody update to 1.16 anyways?

[twin lagoon]

yeah if you have a dupe issue on 1.15 too bad lol

[stiff yarrow]

AMD drivers are kind of hit and miss, I mean, some cards seem to be supported really well and others not so well

[limpid comet]

yeah so i've heard

[heady spear]

shit actually, I am not happy and my body hurts and my family are trying to shame me bcuz im not celebrating christmas with them

[limpid comet]

better than nouveau surely

[minor badge]

@heady spear my condolences

[heady spear]

and I've had weird panic attacks so yay

[minor badge]

celebrate w me

[void void]

Not going to talk about dupe cuz I don't want patch XD

[minor badge]

we can call and eat good food together :)

[heady spear]

I'm just gonna work tomorrow lmao

[untold copper]

we don't celebrate christmas here

[limber knot]

nobody is going to patch it anways ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[minor badge]

f

[heady spear]

I need to finish my FAWE integration

[untold copper]

sounds cool tho

[vernal moth]

Nobody runs 1.15

Just check, 5% of servers

[limpid comet]

ok bye everyone off 2 have a shower

[vernal moth]

Over 80% are on 1.16

[void void]

5% ppl: "Bruh"

[untold copper]

lol yes

[heady spear]

if ur on 1.15 then ur dumb

source: I maintain a 1.15 server

[worthy geode]

Why stay on 1.15 tho? Worse performance and less features 😄

[minor badge]

The dupe is patched on Paper 1.16.4; we won't bother with 1.16.3 or below. If someone runs those versions, they're gonna have to handle it themselves

[heady spear]

and am dumb

only reason to not move to 1.16 is if you CAN'T for whatever reason

such as having a dumb ass paper fork that takes ages to upgrade

[meager tusk]

just disable books

[untold copper]

why would you have that

[stiff yarrow]

I have recently got bug reports for server software bugs from people using weird ass paper forks, low key annoying

[void void]

1.16 sucks

[heady spear]

stop pinging me when replying holy shit

[void void]

Entities are heavy

[untold copper]

sorry will do

[twin lagoon]

1.15 entities are heavy too

[heady spear]

if i ever see u ill spit on u

[true canyon]

These are the worst. Absolute worst. Especially when the software still reports itself as not a weird fork.

[untold copper]

JEEZ BRO CHILL

[void void]

That's why 1.12 exists

[spiral robin]

1.8.1 masterrace

[limpid comet]

1.7.9>

[worn ember]

Poop is 🔥

[heady spear]

or just don't be an absolute idiot and run the latest supported version

[waxen panther]

it wasn't only weird, it was also like the second most dangerous one

[worthy geode]

wasn't 1.8.1 the one you could crash via the serverlist ping?

[limpid comet]

ur poop hahaha owned

[waxen panther]

airplanelite

[stiff yarrow]

I hate this trend of using silly unreliable hacked together paper forks for "mAxImUm PeRfORManCE"

[heady spear]

I have a silly unreliable hacked together paper fork that adds actual features

Servett masterrace

[meager tusk]

Dust masterrace

[heady spear]

block phasing ftw

totally not stolen from dyescape

(it totally is)

[stiff yarrow]

I personally blame leaf for popularizing paper forks

[meager tusk]

[worn ember]

Isn't paper an unreliable fork? runs

[heady spear]

I mean Paper is a fork of Spigot too. Dumb forks

[meager tusk]

Paper

[void void]

But paper doesn't support old versions

[heady spear]

everyone should use CraftBukkit

[meager tusk]

Reject Paper. Return to vanilla

[heady spear]

idiot incels keep using shitty ass forks haha morons

[void void]

It's good as long as it's open source

[minor badge]

I think forks such as Yatopia are a great idea -- but please note I'm not saying "software" here.

[waxen panther]

nah tuinity is awesome

yatopia tho

[meager tusk]

What would happen if i put all the forks together?

Probably maximum performance.

Let me go try that.

[heady spear]

I mean they're all basically just tuinity + some purpur patches anyway

[limber knot]

you just get yatopia

runs

[waxen panther]

their performance vs tuinity is so minimal anyway

they're just used to spigot / paper

[meager tusk]

yatopia?

[heady spear]

but @static badge sucks so we shouldn't promote his garbage

[stiff yarrow]

I don't mind forks when the devs know what they are doing

[meager tusk]

but

but none of us know what we're doing

[minor badge]

I think it's a great idea for the new, perhaps more experimental APIs they may provide

[heady spear]

why do we let this furry run a fork

and why isn't fleshlight in paper?

very important questions.

[upbeat kelp]

Multi threaded minecraft?

[meager tusk]

...fleshlight?

[minor badge]

And same for more experimental patches for performance, given they don't keep the ones that oh so obviously suck

[heady spear]

fleshlight is tuinity's lighting system

[meager tusk]

no it isn't no way

[stiff yarrow]

Let's just migrate to sponge so we can leave this dumpster API behind

[meager tusk]

isn't it starlight

or something

[heady spear]

it's dope and makes entities fall through the floor

[meager tusk]

am i getting

[upbeat kelp]

Spungr

[heady spear]

which is insanely useful

[meager tusk]

i'm getting

i hate you

[heady spear]

fleshlight is the better name

you gotta admit

I just want it to catch on

[upbeat kelp]

Pp lighy

[meager tusk]

i mean yea fleshlights tend to catch on so

[worthy geode]

Just use FAWE to relight your world /s

[meager tusk]

[twin lagoon]

pp light -_- .-. ;-;

[heady spear]

but he obviously went for another furry name

[meager tusk]

Michael

[heady spear]

FAWE relighting is great

[meager tusk]

[heady spear]

actually

not even /s'ing, it's dope

[meager tusk]

FAWE

changing the api every version

[stiff yarrow]

I haven't heard the name FAWE in a while

[heady spear]

people that complain about FAWE are all small brain nooblets

[worthy geode]

FAWE is great, but I always had issues with the lighting tbh

[worn ember]

.fawe

[limber knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/682698598013468690/unknown.png

[meager tusk]

maybe if it was documented

[heady spear]

dords fixed //fixlight

and it works great now

[stiff yarrow]

is FAWE stable now I just remember the old FAWE

[meager tusk]

[heady spear]

and if you don't want to use that then just use CleanLight by our dear friend berger

[meager tusk]

@twin lagoon "is FAWE stable now"

[heady spear]

or lightcleaner

[worn ember]

I thought you didn't touch fawe?

[heady spear]

or whatever it's called lmao

ah it's LightCleaner

[worthy geode]

LightCleaner, yeah. Used it to clean my entire world, looked like 10x better after that, lol. WorldPainter also fckd up the lighting before that

[heady spear]

https://github.com/IntellectualSites/FastAsyncWorldEdit/pull/807
I've been forced to start fixing things smh

[worthy geode]

But I used FAWE mainly in 1.13, because now Cannons and StructureBoxes both won't work with it 😦

[heady spear]

FAWE has never been stable though and things got even worse when Empire92 stopped working on it

[meager tusk]

can you guys document the FAWE api

[heady spear]

It works reasonably well now

I document the shit I touch but I only touch the things I necessarily need to touch 😛

[stiff yarrow]

why document when you can just not do anything and chill

[meager tusk]

no like.. the api

[worthy geode]

yeah, its SBs fault, not FAWEs. Plugin is pretty bad in general, so its getting replaced by our own "soon"

[meager tusk]

I have to constantly search up methods and they turn out to be outdated or something

[heady spear]

sb makes AWE

not FAWE

:'')

[stiff yarrow]

what is SB

[meager tusk]

and in the end i fold

and ask in the support discord

[worthy geode]

StructureBoxes, a plugin to paste schematics from a box

[austere ivy]

alright city lemme in

[heady spear]

ahhhh

okay lel

[worthy geode]

a very shitty one at doing that as well

[heady spear]

well FAWE works pretty well now

[void void]

Isn't FastEditSession enough

[heady spear]

But it's nowhere near what it was in 1.12

[worn ember]

Nothing is

[heady spear]

PlotSquared on the other hand is great and y'all should get it :D<3

[stiff yarrow]

You guys are making me want to go work

[meager tusk]

plotsquared is pretty nice

except that "Caching UUIDs" thing

[heady spear]

just disable it then noob

[meager tusk]

you're right

[heady spear]

we're making it async in 1.16

[meager tusk]

i didn't know you could disable it

[waxen panther]

what's it do?

[meager tusk]

which sucks

[heady spear]

It's the UUID pipeline brocc

[meager tusk]

it runs every startup

[waxen panther]

wtf is wrong with the pipeline 😠

[heady spear]

it caches all UUIDs referenced in the database and updates missing ones

[worthy geode]

Plotsquared as a plugin is nice.
But I hate all those plotsquared "citybuild" servers. Like 80% of new german servers are plotsquared citybuild and its so horrible

[meager tusk]

it halts one of our servers up for like 5 minutes

[waxen panther]

oh you run that on startup

[meager tusk]

for it to start

[waxen panther]

i see

[heady spear]

yes we're gonna make it optionally async

Version 6 is almost ready

[meager tusk]

[heady spear]

it's a huuuuuuuuge PR atm

[spiral robin]

Plotsquared

[waxen panther]

"almost"

[spiral robin]

Plotme tho

[meager tusk]

now I have to change the plugins that depend on plotsquared

[stiff yarrow]

AsyncPlotCubed when

[waxen panther]

imagine not using rotraroadlaing

[meager tusk]

[twin lagoon]

plotsquared UUID caching

[austere ivy]

speaking of plotsquared

[twin lagoon]

[meager tusk]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

@meager tusk

[twin lagoon]

7 minute startup time

[meager tusk]

I was talking about that

[austere ivy]

:PepeLa:

[heady spear]

ok can you all just suck my dick

[austere ivy]

:(

[meager tusk]

LMFAO

[waxen panther]

they've already bought it what do u care

[austere ivy]

city, I'm pretty sure 75% of the people you're talking to atm are underage

might want to reconsider that statement

[worthy geode]

I get nearly 7 minutes without Plotsquared :/

[meager tusk]

^^^

[austere ivy]

also let me in the voicechat >:(

[meager tusk]

i'm 16 city wow

[heady spear]

15 year age of consent in Sweden

[austere ivy]

:yikes:

[void void]

19

[austere ivy]

GOSH DARN IT WHERE 'S MY NITRO

[worn ember]

Caching database stuff

[waxen panther]

when are we getting a paper general-18+

[heady spear]

see?

perfectly legal

[meager tusk]

12 in philippines

doesn't mean it's RIGHT

[heady spear]

ok am moving

https://github.com/IntellectualSites/PlotSquared/pull/2880

[meager tusk]

.

[heady spear]

look

!!

be hyped ok

[austere ivy]

city speaking of plotsquared can u look at my question in programming

[waxen panther]

only 25k lines change cringe

[heady spear]

no

[meager tusk]

https://i.imgur.com/svuFt22.png

i hate you

[heady spear]

I don't interact with the community

[meager tusk]

I hate you so much

[heady spear]

the community is cringe

[meager tusk]

https://i.imgur.com/svuFt22.png

[austere ivy]

I am not the community

I am behind you :)

[meager tusk]

I hate you City

please never type those words ever again

[waxen panther]

imagine asking a programming question in IS and not incendo

[heady spear]

Not a lot of API has changed

[meager tusk]

incenwho?

[heady spear]

only the parts people actually use

[waxen panther]

inc😎do

[austere ivy]

does incendo handle anything to do with PS?

[meager tusk]

[heady spear]

I mean I own IS and I own Incendo

[waxen panther]

no but incendo is more epic

[heady spear]

you know

I mean

👀

[worn ember]

Ew

[austere ivy]

yeah city how come you still own IS ew

[meager tusk]

what is incendo

i don't know

[heady spear]

dw tho we only documented none of these changes

[stiff yarrow]

.g incendo

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.incendo.ca/

[meager tusk]

@heady spear that'll surely help when I need to update those legacy plugins

[heady spear]

wat

[austere ivy]

incendo owns cloud, the most basedest based command framework ever

[meager tusk]

[heady spear]

https://incendo.org

.g walmart kyori

[waxen panther]

incendo is city's new org that cloud and hyperverse are on

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kyori-Innervisions/33521220

[heady spear]

omg

[waxen panther]

lol

[heady spear]

:((

[austere ivy]

INCEND

[waxen panther]

bot is probably american zz

[meager tusk]

i don't use cloud

[waxen panther]

you should

[meager tusk]

[heady spear]

ok blocked

[meager tusk]

no i have my own thing

[waxen panther]

i am not bias at all

[stiff yarrow]

so why are they under different orgs

[meager tusk]

it works fine

[waxen panther]

cloud is better

[stiff yarrow]

are you an org hoarder city

[meager tusk]

cloud is better suited towards everyone else

[waxen panther]

IS and Incendo have different members

[meager tusk]

my thing is better suited for me

[heady spear]

I don't want to publish things under IS bcuz Incendo is my actual company

[stiff yarrow]

you can have multiple teams in one org though

[waxen panther]

yeah but i dont want to be in IS lol

[stiff yarrow]

I also have a company but haven't bothered with a website yet

[meager tusk]

omg proxi made a ban plugin

yes

[heady spear]

ur not allowed to use it

[meager tusk]

i can finally avoid writing my own

.

[heady spear]

cloud users only

[meager tusk]

.

[heady spear]

it's in the TOS

[waxen panther]

all the epic people 😎

we should add that

[meager tusk]

oh right

I use cloud sure

I just have it as a dependency and never use it

[spiral robin]

[meager tusk]

ok downloading now

[waxen panther]

i didnt know aurora was in incendo ngl

[austere ivy]

does vanilla mc not have /ban?

[heady spear]

aurora is our one moderator

[meager tusk]

IS THAT BROCC!!

[waxen panther]

[spiral robin]

Josh Taylor

[waxen panther]

i hate my name pls

dont say it

[meager tusk]

Josh Taylor Swift

[austere ivy]

join the club brocc

[meager tusk]

bet you haven't heard that before

[waxen panther]

pls

[stiff yarrow]

What does Incendo mean (name wise) if anything

[meager tusk]

probably fire

incendiary

[spiral robin]

Nerd

[austere ivy]

fire but blue

[meager tusk]

molotov

[heady spear]

it comes from incendare

but it's also an intentional typo of incendio

[meager tusk]

☁️

don't mind me

just burning cloud

[stiff yarrow]

.g incendio definition

[meager tusk]

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.spanishdict.com/translate/incendio

[waxen panther]

spanish lol

[stiff yarrow]

I only know English and some weebspeak

[meager tusk]

@CommandMethod("command|alias <input> <number>")

what is this

what does that mean

[waxen panther]

dont use annotations

use the builders

[heady spear]

also "incend" is an English word

[meager tusk]

hell no

i'd rather die than use builders

[waxen panther]

ugh

i hate the annotation users

[stiff yarrow]

[meager tusk]

i hate the builder users

[waxen panther]

love u

[meager tusk]

imagine waking up and saying "yeah i want to write commands with the builder pattern"

[heady spear]

incend comes from incendere

[stiff yarrow]

Builder is a pretty useful pattern when things get complex

[mighty storm]

https://twitter.com/9to5google/status/1341796189910478850?s=21 what goes around comes around 😂

9to5Google.com (@9to5Google)

Samsung deletes post mocking Apple's charger removal now that it plans to do the same thing https://t.co/TBKfKxatnR by @nexusben

Twitter · Dec 23, 2020, 5:21 PM

[heady spear]

(latin)

[waxen panther]

they do the same thing every year lol

[meager tusk]

yea

typical

[heady spear]

@waxen panther I'm gonna spend Christmas writing our wiki

[waxen panther]

just like every android company but samsung advertise it more

are you tho

[heady spear]

I got inspired by the JDBI wiki

I'm gonna emulate that

[stiff yarrow]

iphone best phone

[meager tusk]

which wiki

please say FAWE

[heady spear]

I like the way they split OOP and annotation shit

[meager tusk]

please say FAWE

[heady spear]

shut up I don't care about FAWE

[meager tusk]

[heady spear]

https://wiki.commandframework.cloud/

am gonna fix this

[meager tusk]

when your command library needs an entire wiki

[waxen panther]

remove the embed

[meager tusk]

[waxen panther]

it doesn't

[meager tusk]

booo

[waxen panther]

the builders are very obvious and dont need any magic

[meager tusk]

builder pattern command libraries boooo

[waxen panther]

it has both dumb dumb

[meager tusk]

[heady spear]

Cloud has a LOT of optional features

that allow you do pretty insane shit

if you want to

[meager tusk]

Cloud has a LOT of bloat is what I heard

[limpid comet]

ur bloat

[spiral robin]

Y'all so cute when u argue

[heady spear]

think you made a typo there

[meager tusk]

https://i.imgur.com/hMkQIs3.png

[heady spear]

ACF isn't spelled like that

[meager tusk]

[waxen panther]

at least we dont include a locale library

[meager tusk]

acf is bloated too

[limpid comet]

no javadocs
deprecated

[meager tusk]

yea i hate that

the I18N stuff

[heady spear]

https://github.com/bergerhealer/TrainCarts/blob/master/src/main/java/com/bergerkiller/bukkit/tc/commands/CartCommands.java

[meager tusk]

[waxen panther]

timings hard dep too pog?

[meager tusk]

why do you use the pipe operator

why not use string arrays

[heady spear]

berger has made really good use of cloud

[meager tusk]

[heady spear]

we can't...

[meager tusk]

why

[heady spear]

command sub|sub2 <param> literal [optional]

how the fuck would you turn that into an array

[spiral robin]

Why @CommandRequiresPermission not @CommandPermission

[meager tusk]

i'm not even sure what that means to be honest

[heady spear]

he uses a custom permission annotation

[spiral robin]

Oh ok

[heady spear]

because he has a custom permission system

[limpid comet]

Idris dum comfirnted

[waxen panther]

import com.bergerkiller.bukkit.tc.commands.annotations.CommandRequiresPermission;

thats one of his things

[meager tusk]

Ok but i made my own command library bluely

[spiral robin]

Ok ok ok sorry !!!

[waxen panther]

ur library is dumb

[meager tusk]

i just have it less complicated

No