@twin lagoon ur guy is dumb
#general
waxen panther
waxen panther
no im a cloud stan
meager tusk
Ok
heady spear
even luck endorses cloud !!
meager tusk
I respect that 
stiff yarrow
City I just wanted to say you made cool thing and you should feel cool 
heady spear
and luck is very smart
waxen panther
zml had a pr for cloud
heady spear
zml has a pr merged into cloud
meager tusk
me 
waxen panther
idriz dumb
heady spear
yes you do
meager tusk
PAUSE
heady spear
you do !!
meager tusk
NONONO
waxen panther
heady spear
omg kyori hater
meager tusk
NO
waxen panther
wtf
heady spear
imagine hating kyori
meager tusk
Except cloud.
waxen panther
ur a coward
heady spear
@zealous wedge uwu :))) I hope u have a wonderful day
just ignore Idriz tho he's mean
meager tusk
why are you guys bullying me 
waxen panther
bc u dont like cloud
heady spear
@waxen panther we should link to traincarts in our readme
waxen panther
ok
meager tusk
heady spear
he has PRd most of the changes tho
waxen panther
no he's very helpful
heady spear
no? he's very nice
meager tusk
heady spear
omg brocc
meager tusk
heady spear
we're so synced
waxen panther
made for eachother
heady spear
let's kiss on the lips
minor badge
wtf
heady spear
why would I write a wiki for a project I don't even work on
meager tusk
Proxi your code is trash
minor badge
WTF
meager tusk
said no one ever
minor badge
gnu style >
waxen panther
yeah you're just not synced at writing the FAWE wiki
i am literally nothing do with fawe 😎
meager tusk
heady spear
Idriz said he hates Incendo and Kyori
heady spear
you did
waxen panther
u deleted the other ones
heady spear
proxi can you ban him for hate speech
limpid comet
fast async Weiner 😎
heady spear
proxi plz
meager tusk
hey proxi it's me
heady spear
proxiiiii
meager tusk
the guy who sends you hearts
heady spear
xoxo
meager tusk
also I made a plane
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@heady spear ```java
public static int
thing (String coolBeans)
{
if (coolBeans.startsWith("abc"))
{
getLogger().info("Woah that's epic!");
}
return 0;
}
how hot isnt thiscan city make a plane I don't think so
heady spear
proxi I'll send you cute pictures of me doing various poses
waxen panther
delete that
minor badge
gnu code style >
meager tusk
that's super hot proxi
minor badge
it's just facts
meager tusk
public
static
int
thing(
String coolBeans
) {
if (coolBeans.startsWith(
"abc"
)
) {
getLogger().info("Woah that's epic!");
}
return
0;
}
meager tusk
that's my code style
waxen panther
seems about right
heady spear
I'll block everyone who isn't in Incendo
heady spear
trash ppl .
heady spear
hello this user was punished in another server and is now bringing that drama into here
pinging me for no reason
can someone please remove them
heady spear
I have IRC logs available if anyone needs them
waxen panther
idriz2
meager tusk
he'll never figure me out that way
heady spear
If this behavior is repeated I'll ask a Discord admin to have their account terminated
:'')
meager tusk
who would commit such behavior
worn ember
Need to have fame first
worn ember
All bots
heady spear
ur a bot
worn ember
Ok weeb
waxen panther
i have 2 (two !!) github stars 😎
meager tusk
waxen panther
me & my alt
meager tusk
Well done Brocc
waxen panther
thank you
waxen panther
it's crazy that i dont have a job right??
waxen panther
surprised google isn't breaking my door down
limber knotBOT
still idk wth cloud is even
worn ember
Something with an ugly logo
meager tusk
yeah with a builder pattern
heady spear
how is this ugly
heady spear
use the kotlin dsl
waxen panther
it has annotations for dumb people like you dw xoxo
heady spear
it's the best way to use cloud
meager tusk
heady spear
😍
heady spear
I'm forced to use the annotations in kotlin tho smh
waxen panther
annotation users r dumb and i dont like them.
worn ember
Lmao imagine shading kotlin in a plugin
meager tusk
so i'm dumb then
waxen panther
everyone should code the way i like.
waxen panther
heady spear
our entire code base is kotlin :'')
waxen panther
ur very cute
meager tusk
heady spear
imagine not having access to coroutines
waxen panther
left swift
City is kotlin
meager tusk
imagine shading kotlin in for plugins
heady spear
imagine using executors and completable futures
meager tusk
can't be me
heady spear
imagine using javascript lol dum dum
meager tusk
middle ground 
?
waxen panther
typescript pog
heady spear
wanna be friends ??
heady spear
yay
waxen panther
what a friendship arch
olive marlin
Imagine not using Yew for frontend.
meager tusk
wtf is yew
olive marlin
meager tusk
yea tf
heady spear
proxi can do no wrong
meager tusk
except for Proxi of course
waxen panther
we love proxi
vernal moth
Yew, more like ew
heady spear
i don't know how to use the api tho because i forgot to document it
so this will be fun
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interesting, bloodstone
meager tusk
trying to open source things that will actually get me jobs 
limber knotBOT
hey so it seems like I can download paper spigot for 1.16.4 on their website but is there a way to download 1.8?
left swift
meager tusk
HAHA
heady spear
https://www.baeldung.com/kotlin-ktor omg there's a baeldung article about ktor
twin lagoon
waxen panther
baeldung article on everything tbh
heady spear
now i can actually learn it
meager tusk
use 1.16.4 instead
twin lagoon
webchat user, go to the downloads page
meager tusk
1.8 is dead
waxen panther
probably one on cloud
twin lagoon
view legacy
heady spear
proxi proxi
what do you think about kotlin code bases using groovy gradle?
plz tell me so i can screenshot it
meager tusk
i need to figure out something to hook into after an oauth2 user is authenticated in spring
heady spear
and send it to relevant ppl
austere ivy
@meager tusk I’ll hire you ❤️
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i think it's as stupid as using zig's build tool to compile Rust
austere ivy
I don’t have any money but I’ll pay in exposure peeeepoheart
heady spear
what does that mean
meager tusk
Exposure
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Zig is a C-like language
heady spear
can u explain using very vulgar terms
meager tusk
I can go out into the sun for that 
minor badge
I dislike you a lot
waxen panther
city just wants you to say it's stupid so he can send it to nox and complain smh
heady spear
plz include the words "dumb moron bad bad"
waxen panther
gottem
austere ivy
city I tried to go into Vc to trash talk you with my mic muted but you wouldn’t let me in :(
austere ivy
shame, now I’m so far from home
acoustic arch
why is there a nutrition science channel in a paper server
worn ember
why is there a nutrition science channel in a paper server
cuz aikar loves to go on about it for hours
so we put him in his own channel 
runic shale
I am not going to talk 0_0
untold copper
ima buy chat control red
waxen panther
lol
spiral robin
lol
cedar spade
@waxen panther go to sleep
waxen panther
no im trying to get all the achievements in a game
cunning raft
inb4 its rust
formal forge
I newly got my own dedicated root server, is there no need for Hardware resets, can i just let it run until eternity?
waxen panther
i only have my laptop
twin lagoon
yes
waxen panther
how would i be playing rust
also i already have all the achievements in rust i think, easiest achievements in existence
left swift
U know what else is easy
waxen panther
u
left swift
Ty
cedar spade
sleep gets you all achievements in all games
limber knotBOT
I never got the point of 100% achievements
waxen panther
i dont have anything else to do really
limber knotBOT
yes I do agree I don't get a lot of dum stuff
meager tusk
you could look for a job 
limber knotBOT
u could work on my meme serbur
left swift
Who
limber knotBOT
work on getting that 100% memes
waxen panther
genius
limber knotBOT
I wanna make my meme serbur's configs public but then again im scared if plugins might output rando info
so if anyone's got ideas regarding that am all ears
worn ember
No
waxen panther
genius
left swift
Give everyone root login
left swift
U wont have to worry about ppl finding rando info if you give it to them first
limber knotBOT
that is true
open to any design ideas to make it so the info is useless as well
only way I can think of doing that is putting it behind a proxy of some sort
and just not forwarding IPs
etc.
left swift
Who
heady spear
k just finished a 12 page report for the computer security course im forced to take
this was the last assignment of 2020
pog
.
untold copper
shutup im tryna be happy i got 20/20
left swift
Also gratz
untold copper
ty
brazen comet
Hey can anyone help me
Java players are able to craft items but bedrock players can't. Any possible solutions ?
With GeyserMC
untold copper
ask there
left swift
Ask in geyser discord
untold copper
GeyserMC: https://discord.gg/7ZDSKa5
cunning raft
you'll
brazen comet
Waiting for reply
cunning raft
ok
limber knotBOT
yes
left swift
We'll
formal forge
I want to share my linux user access with a server admin but how can i ensure that he can't change the password or anything?
I mean i can't log in as root because i disabled that
so if he would change the user password i would have no access point
Could anyone provide help? thanks 🙂
brazen comet
Better to make a another user
left swift
If you dont trust them enough not to fuck with your server dont give them access in the first place
brazen comet
Yes xD
worn ember
nomana can i have root access plz
left swift
Sure give me ur ssh keys
brazen comet
Lol
worn ember
69420BIazeIt
limber knotBOT
need ur address to ship it
formal forge
Are there any options to limit a users access to only my minecraft server and nothing else?
left swift
I ship u robo
spiral robin
@formal forge what ?
limber knotBOT
space battleships
left swift
Permissions and groups
wraith trail
#paper-help also what do you mean by that
meaning what are you trying to block access to?
limpid comet
nerd channel
formal forge
Idk i am really new to linux and just worried that there would come a day where the admin might come to bad ideas.
So limiting the access to everything except the Minecraft server would be the thing i would want
golden gust
use a panel which has a permission system
left swift
Dont give them access then
golden gust
Or, create an account and use that solely for the mc server
The damage they can do is generally limited
formal forge
I need admins with console access can't always be around the server x)
golden gust
Cool, now
left swift
Look into using pterodactyl panel
wraith trail
Easiest is to just use a panel like pterodactyl
golden gust
Giving them access ultimatly means giving them access
wraith trail
Other than that you need to learn about linux permissions/make a user account for them.
I assume you just gave them the password to root and aren't even using keys. There isn't a good reason to allow root login over ssh
wraith trail
Ok, good. So you need to change the permissions on their account so it only has access to your mc server.
formal forge
if i need to do something within root i just do
Su
left swift
Wait so the guy I gave root access to isnt from planet minecraft trying to review my server?
golden gust
You're either root or you're not
wraith trail
ok, so in that case that user has full access. Basically they are root if they want to be.
golden gust
I mean, sudo lets you gain root access, but, if you don't give the account sudo access, then they can't do stuff as root
formal forge
i don't have sudo
wraith trail
well if you can su to root, same idea.
formal forge
And you can only enter su with the root password
twin lagoon
the
golden gust
if you want perfect security, you need a system which will manage "perfect security", i.e. a control panel which has some form of access control
twin lagoon
install sudo
olive marlin
Make server files under new "mcserver" group. Create new user. Add that new user and yourself to the same group that owns server files. Don't give them sudo access.
golden gust
groups are not really designed to solve that type of stuff unless you're getting into ACLs
olive marlin
But yeah - if you don't trust them enough, I'd go pterodactyl.
golden gust
Which, am not really sure is a beginner topic unless you hate yourself
wraith trail
yeah i'd just go for pterodactyl for now
formal forge
I heard setting up pterodactyl can cause nasty stuff and it never is a 100% success, so might have to reset the whole server
golden gust
Linux isn't as locked down as windows where there's one OS and one set of system tools bundled with that OS, so, there's no sane mechanism for going totalitarian with accounts outside of what desktop environments try to offer and all that crud
olive marlin
What?
golden gust
a seperate account for just the MC server, as has been recommended, the only real/best option without using tools which try to control exactly what the user can do
limber knotBOT
ya
do the responsible thing
new user just for MC, give access 2 ur admins 2 dat
wraith trail
although setting up pterodactyl does not cause "nasty stuff" as you described.
wraith trail
nothing is completely safe. If you do something wrong, of course not
golden gust
That's literally step 1 and generally the hardest part of privilage escalation
limber knotBOT
safe from other parts of the Linux host sure
golden gust
Basically, giving people access to touch stuff is never secure
formal forge
yes
wraith trail
which it can, if you do it wrong
formal forge
Sry for not specifying
limber knotBOT
life is insecure
golden gust
ptero is generally fine and gonna give you more control over the users and what they do
limber knotBOT
if I could run ptero on 1GB RAM I'd take a look
wraith trail
They have pretty clear install instructions, so it's basically just copy paste for a lot of it
left swift
Robo
wraith trail
So unless you mess it up a lot, no data loss.
formal forge
So unless you mess it up a lot, no data loss.
Which is not possible if i follow that so called guide?
left swift
So called guide lol
wraith trail
Data loss can never be 100% prevented.
golden gust
the guide tells you how to install ptero
migration of data is generally easy but 100% on you
wraith trail
You need to make a backup if you are not confident. But, if you follow the guide to the letter, you should not lose data.
formal forge
Alright
wraith trail
But if you're trying to delete a directory and accidently rm -rf /., you're out of luck.
but don't do that
formal forge
I will search for a good guide x)
left swift
Dont use some randoms auto install script for ptero
wraith trail
they have a guide on their website
left swift
And if u need help u can ask nicely in their discord
formal forge
And if u need help u can ask nicely in their discord
I always ask nicely 😛
formal forge
they have a guide on their website
Awesome, thank you, i check it out
untold copper
tetra is such a cool mod :o
worthy geode
famous vexillologist, apparently
vernal moth
This is cool
"You're stuck in the early 2010s"
Can confirm, lmao
You stan these artists to an uncomfortable extent:
deadmau5
Eminem
Linkin Park
Can also confirm
stiff yarrow
tfw you cave and write regex to refactor
vernal moth
Final verdict
Your spotify was moms-spaghetti-sweaty-rave-slow-dance bad.
Iits pretty cool
Wait for the fuck marry kill
visual egret
do it
vernal moth
That I didn't get either
visual egret
vernal moth
Maybe to train the AI
limpid comet
tbh that was underwhelming
visual egret
ive listened to songs by these artists like 3 times
limpid comet
was that not just a sarcastic Spotify wrapped?
vernal moth
Yes
limpid comet
a i
visual egret
wtf is NerdOut
visual egret
olive marlin
visual egret
You only listen to music made in the last year like M to the B by Millie B
lies
and Ashes by Stellar.
i skip by those 2 songs the most
olive marlin
I know where from my client used to take commit messages from.
visual egret
is this sarcastic?
formal forge
Sometimes everyone on my new dedicated Hetzner server gets disconnected after a short freeze :/
Hardware is top notch, don't know what it could be
Tps is also 20 for 98% of the time
limber knotBOT
dahek r ur lootcrates
formal forge
Still those random disconnects
limber knotBOT
u can setup dono stores all u want
idc about moniez
I just need admins
lul
im tellin ya
I don't know who u were till like a few months ago
limpid comet
ignore robo he's 90 his brain ain't what it used to be
limber knotBOT
wut
meager tusk
IRC 
limber knotBOT
pls link me
meager tusk
no reads fine
limber knotBOT
dumcordian keeps u dum
meager tusk
yea
limber knotBOT
u gotta link me dis stuff barty
records of me chatting to u
or something
cuz literally u have not existed to me till a few months ago
limpid comet
next time ill b sure to use perfect grammar
limber knotBOT
uh oh
selfbotting
more reasons why we need IRC
nobody can care about heccin messages
visual egret
i dont know how to describe this:
is there some kind of database designed to hold 1 item per table?
i was thinking of using JSON files but i cant edit them out of anywhere
vernal moth
I got all of bartys messages in a nice little database
I'll post them daily, out of context now
limber knotBOT
hav u ever been on IRC barty or just dumcord
vernal moth
That's my Xmas present to you
tawny hedge
Paper is pog
left swift
Yeah mine had lil peep
golden gust
awh, no longer nomama
vernal moth
Man, if I wasn't tried like shit i would go to my pc and run some queries on my data 😂
limber knotBOT
as barty?
obtuse moth
Has the villager trading mechanics changed recently in terms of the discount for curing zombie villagers no longer stacking?
left swift
limber knotBOT
I srsly don't remember u at all
left swift
Lmao
limber knotBOT
like, I remember DED for his weird forums pic
left swift
Ppl only remember Barty for his unhealthy obsession with hating wiz all the time
limber knotBOT
wut would u talk about
left swift
Loot crates
golden gust
Strictly outta curiosity
golden gust
What what happen if you got with me
meager tusk
waxen panther
is that generated or a meme
left swift
What what happen
left swift
It made fun of me for listening to twenty one pilots
But I'm only 41% basic
So we take those wins
waxen panther
thank u cat xx
waxen panther
bro 😐
golden gust
ur face is uggs
left swift
left swift
It's still a thing it's not a phase cat
waxen panther
damn bro im so obscure and epichahahhahahaaa
limber knotBOT
I'm finding nothin
just a few instances of u asking what benefits paper has, and then later thanking paper
twin lagoon
You're stuck in the early 2010s. For you, music's been all downhill since Mumford & Sons made I Gave You All.
meager tusk
damn bro im so obscure and epichahahhahahaaa
you just can't win with that bot
if it's a high level of basic it's like "wow you're so basic"
void void
does anyone reccomend any server host? (bedget)
waxen panther
i'll take 10% basic
void void
budget*
limber knotBOT
i've literally talked to you multiple times in the past two years
stiff yarrow
tfw you don't use spotify so you can't join in
waxen panther
hyper dans game
golden gust
speaking to barty is generally not a memorable thing
limber knotBOT
oh, I guess these only go to 2018 my bad
void void
Hey, how I can create a Server Socket SSL with PublicKey and PrivateKey instances ?
waxen panther
something something bartyrealms... something something lootbox... koltin something something
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waxen panther
f
meager tusk
but it also got a lot of things wrong
vernal moth
Proxi is too trendy kek
meager tusk
it said i listened to some songs i don't really listen to, or haven't listened to in a long while
vernal moth
Even tho she listens to Frank Sinatra
minor badge
that's the only time i've been called trendy
limber knotBOT
I only know brocc recently, and if I feel like I know him longer than u then that's somethin
meager tusk
yea you're also 0% cool
left swift
Robo going full boomer playing the too-cool-to-remember card
limber knotBOT
o wow, I see right at beginning of 2019 u way more active wowo
vernal moth
I am not sure when I have first met robo
limber knotBOT
hmm, that might be when I started taking a mini break or at least less focus so I guess that makes sense
so I'm curious where we interacted if ever
prolly in #spigot mini
like most ppl
which reminds me, where's gsands
limber knotBOT
forums maybe?
mlg fortress as in its name or the server itself
imma assume name cuz that's when I connected it to IRC
server itself is older
and went through name changes
formal turret
Oh hello yea I love websites that tell me my spotify habits
visual egret
some people are just big brain
formal turret
I'll have to try it whe. I get home
limber knotBOT
I know lax did
vernal moth
You must have talked about it somewhere and I checked it out
I can't remember any details tho
Then again, my memory is worthless anyways
golden gust
(Too drunk to remember anything)
vernal moth
I wasn't drinking that much back then
golden gust
weak
vernal moth
I can proof that my memory is below avg in my age group before I started uni
Found the results of the iq test i did for my company in 2015
golden gust
Tellin' ya
He can't even speak about stuff without going into alcohol
Talking about proof and shit
vernal moth
That's normal, company wants to know who you are
formal turret
Dont wanna hire dumdums Barty iguess
vernal moth
I had no references, i was just a dum kid from school
Everybody took it
I am not sure if ppl with work experience take it too
formal turret
That seems whack tbh lol
golden gust
germany, 'nuff said
vernal moth
It's not an "iq" test, you don't get a number
But it's an iq test
You could easily take my results and calculate some meaningless number
Yes, it was memory, language, perception of space, shit like that
vernal moth
What digits? Lol
formal turret
He wants your fingers
vernal moth
I would search my chat logs but my couch is too comfortable
limber knotBOT
100% memorable
o wait
that's 2020 already
dahek is this sorting
ya I don't see me talking in any of the days you talked
I think u makin up stuff
vernal moth
Kek
limber knotBOT
who's 90 year old brain now
vernal moth
If I would have to take a wild guess about your spawn, I wanna remember it was a round hall with a dome
But that could be something totally unrelated
limber knotBOT
nvm I didn't uncheck a box in the search
ya don't think I ever had a dome but
can't recall
always open, except the mall
vernal moth
Interessting, I wonder what server that was then
limber knotBOT
round hall... might be the mall entrance tho
vernal moth
The more I think about it, the more my brain wanders into a tomb raider looking thing so my brain prolly just playing tricks with me
Do you happen to have a picture of that?
limber knotBOT
I used to have a Photosynth of it
then Photosynth site gone :c lemme check
lul all the pics on my PMC listing are all out of date
several several years
here's a really bad video of the minigames spawn, which I did use for a time... oh you mean the dome in the center
maybe that's what you're remembering? https://youtu.be/FKoP8XB8WLg
left swift
Scr00b
limber knotBOT
see this is y u need 2 merge wit me so u can do muh vids
vernal moth
Nah, don't think so
limber knotBOT
there's one record of me talking to someone else after you paste a timings url
hey
portal gun plugin is kewl
what's up
spiral robin
quasi valley
I had to
a friend said I must upload it to Twitter
so I obviously had to follow their instructions
runic shale
What in the world is it that server hosting providers use to host everyone's servers
I want to know
limber knotBOT
big secret only for non dumcordians
runic shale
Thank you
unkempt drift
oh hey robo, I think glare had a message for you in #paper-dev
quasi valley
don't haste the old guy
unkempt drift
Paper needs a fax number where you can fax your server logs
heady drift
runic shale
which one is the best? https://www.ovh.com/world/deals/
unkempt drift
nah, I'm thinking they all get forwarded straight go cat.
runic shale
Like I want to set up something like apex did with there hosting
thorn violet
waxen panther
if you need to ask what the best deal is you're probably not cut out for distributing hosting ngl
olive marlin
So you just want to setup ptero and resel servers?
runic shale
So you just want to setup ptero and resel servers?
to have people buy there own servers with the hosting website I want to make
its called learning it
olive marlin
Yes. Depends on what you want to aim for. Hetzner often has issues with USA connections.
runic shale
I dont want usa bad connections lmaos
olive marlin
But if you focus on mostly EU, it's decent and cheap.
spiral robin
Lol
spiral robin
Nah just let them try it and see
runic shale
fuck wrong ping
olive marlin
I can recommend OVH, I heard good things about pnap.
runic shale
They seem set against not taking our advice so just let them try
I am taking advice
olive marlin
Try with a single server and make yourself your own customer and try to break it.
waxen panther
:')
runic shale
I have 3 computers I can set up a thing for it
olive marlin
I spend quite a bit burning money for learning purposes.
J don't think there's anything wrong with it. You want to learn and do it fast - sometimes it comes with a price tag.
runic shale
If you take your time to learn things everything is possible if you don't give the fuck up ( key tip )
I learn a lot of mistakes in the damn past and I regret it but I fixed it
waxen panther
Just make sure you're extremely confident before charging other people for it, or you'll become like so many other hosts that are made fun of here :p
golden gust
depends
I've seen people who I question how the heck they manage to breath with the IQ points they have
olive garden
I take that as a direct offense to kangarko
runic shale
Just make sure you're extremely confident before charging other people for it, o...
that is common sense
waxen panther
You'd think so, wouldn't you
runic shale
everyone should know that
spiral robin
I take that as a direct offense to kangarko
Kangarko isn't a host
olive garden
wow aren't you informed
waxen panther
I get all my servers through SongodaPlus with SongodaHost™️
waxen panther
i was joking, i get my servers through phoenixnap like a real man 😎
runic shale
lol
olive marlin
You have your own server? Then make yourself a customer account when you finish making your host and host all your servers there.
runic shale
You have your own server? Then make yourself a customer account when you finish ...
maybe I should do that
yup
true
olive marlin
maybe I should do that
You definitely should do that. If you don't want to use your own product, that doesn't mean good for the product.
Yeah, but doesn't he want to become shared host anyway?
runic shale
Yeah, but doesn't he want to become shared host anyway?
yes
diffently
shit messed spelled
found what website I am going to use so what is the best choice to host your own hosting shared server website: https://phoenixnap.com/servers/dedicated
Writing notes down for later
oh now I understand I let you know guys if I achieve it in the future cya everyone!
twin lagoon
phoenixnap 
runic shale
yup I am going to fall in love with this one
@twin lagoon Should I get medium workloads? in the future
runic shale
on the link I sent
twin lagoon
what are you trying to do in first place
coarse lily
You aren’t gonna like the answer.
runic shale
make my own server shared host like apex
twin lagoon
lmao
runic shale
read the top
twin lagoon
yeah no fuck that gl
runic shale
whats wrong with that?
spiral robin
coarse lily
See? :)
twin lagoon
the fact that you have to ask about what server you have to buy in a public minecraft server software discord says enough about your experience
i would not trust my money or anyone else's money at some random host
twin lagoon
not when you're handling customer data & money
you want that done right the first time
not the second time
need a decent reputation aswell and not a reputation of "i have no clue what i'm doing but i want to start a host"
work at some host, gain experience, start your own
runic shale
You are telling me ways on how to do it you know ( tips )
coarse lily
Learning does come first. But you should know the answers to the questions you’re asking before you try to spend money and DEFINITELY before you try to charge anyone anything.
limber knotBOT
ya, start by hosting a server for ur friends first
coarse lily
^
limber knotBOT
that's how I started
twin lagoon
the answer on what server you should buy isn't too hard either on that page
if you're some what active in the scene
coarse lily
The when shit breaks it’s less critical
And you get time to learn.
Barty the naysayer!
limber knotBOT
ya idk barty you talked a lot and none of us mention each other's nickname so idk
coarse lily
A home network?
runic shale
on Apex
limber knotBOT
can't be bothered to go through each or do advanced regex stuff
runic shale
meh
twin lagoon
there's another issue
coarse lily
What made you look at Apex and say “I can do this” or “I can do better” without any actual knowledge or experience of their product?
coarse lily
You’re trying to make something like theirs, aren’t you?
runic shale
hell no
coarse lily
You want to make shared Minecraft hosting.
limber knotBOT
idk how ppl can go on about serbur networks, like, start with one first, please
coarse lily
Then what ARE you trying to do?
runic shale
nvm forget all of it
coarse lily
Okay
twin lagoon
lol
runic shale
lets all start on a new conversation
coarse lily
Michael holiday cookies: yes or no?
twin lagoon
yes
limber knotBOT
memes and half-broken dreams
coarse lily
And rhymes. Apparently.
limber knotBOT
some code or all my code
yes best chat protocol ever
I've made so many utilities but never a gamemode
quasi valley
when did the minecraft.net login page get such a horrible "hey prove ur a hooman"??
twin lagoon
because ur not human
fallen oracle
Does someone wanna be a GOAT and open a PR for MaterialTags for stairs?
fallen oracle
Smh
coarse lily
Last night I told kash I'd get him a Christmas present. Apparently what I meant was "something for Groundhog Day" since every single thing I've looked at is like 4-6 weeks shipping. WTF.
I guess I could buy him something and then email him a photo of it to print out and have in the meantime.
twin lagoon
kashike uwu
limber knotBOT
hey glare man
did you get any results on the doublechest
did you have to wait a tick or no
trim steeple
is this the right place to download java 11 from? https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase/jdk11-archive-downloads.html
coarse lily
Yeah that'd work. But the openjdk is another option.
wraith trail
Oracle licence 🤮
limber knotBOT
I stopped going to oracle's site after they started putting that stuff behind a login screen
coarse lily
And by "that stuff" you mean EVERY SINGLE THING?
trim steeple
I just created an account with an email I use for stuff that may be spammy
limber knotBOT
that's the only thing I go there for ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wraith trail
For windows at least adopt has a nicer installer
coarse lily
You click download and you get a license. Then you agree. Then it's like "Haha just kidding login now"
limber knotBOT
that too
coarse lily
Oracle is the worst.
wraith trail
Or more noob friendly as it updates path
limber knotBOT
actually adds java_home in the path for maven
coarse lily
They've never been very good at explaining exactly what the hell JDK vs JRE/etc is to laypeople.
trim steeple
I'm trying to avoid some bloat so idk I kinda don't want the sdk if I don't need it
wraith trail
If you don't want bullshit get it from adopt
limber knotBOT
if 100mb is bloat then idk what to tell ya
plus u get to compile plogenz
prolly less than 100mb can't recall
coarse lily
Yeah probably get the openjdk
trim steeple
ill just do openjdk
what will the process name be
like the executable
like when your server is running, is it under java.exe?
wraith trail
Yes.
wraith trail
Might be javaw or something
trim steeple
javaw is without command line iirc
I'm glad I don't have to mess with my scripts then
hotspot or j9?
wraith trail
Generally hotspot
trim steeple
I'll do that then
wraith trail
Openj9 is better for some things, but just as hotspot is more universal it's kinda the go to for now at least.
trim steeple
I'm hoping aikar's flags work like they used to with java 8
someone said flags are different on j9
ye I did hotspot because of it
limber knotBOT
tux has some openj9 flags
idk what it did tho on my 1GB vm
as it struggles no matter which flags I use
mossy vessel
Not sure why you would want to run eclipse here, hotspot is fairly suitable for the common minecraft server.
trim steeple
ok guess its all set up on my end
limber knotBOT
tux made a blog post on it
trim steeple
nice
stiff yarrow
Last night I told kash I'd get him a Christmas present. Apparently what I meant ...
daww
olive marlin
@limpid comet I need some input from pog traefik god. Did you use it with docker-compose? What issues did you hit? Or is it really as simple as: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/3c894a98d19443b5aa0635e80e5540bb
From your struggles I was expecting having more issues with it lol
golden gust
Let's pretend that I totally noticed that the warning sticker was on the window itself
golden gust
i thought that the truck was basically kissing the window almost 😄
left swift
They miss u tho
coarse lily
Haha they probably do.
One year - 2012 I think? - there was so much snow that the snow blower couldn't throw it over the berm. I had to climb up and shovel snow further in to be able to blow the snow up and over.
I could walk from my roof to the snow
Fuck that.
left swift
Worst part of blizzard are people driving around like nothing is happening and going around panic buying everything they should've gotten the week prior
coarse lily
Yeah.
The French Toast Index.
Milk, eggs, bread.
Three perishable fucking items everyone buys.
Which makes zero sense.
"What if I get trapped and lose power! Surely I'll need these things that have very short shelf lives!"
vernal bone
Happy christmas! ❤️
heady spear
what's so happy about it?
cosmic raft
coarse lily
Haha
twin lagoon
kashike 
heady spear
i am not happy at all actually i think im gonna pull and all nighter and just finish this project
fuck christmas
twin lagoon
oh it's almost christmas
cosmic raft
hi @twin lagoon
twin lagoon
helo
twin lagoon
doubt they do
cosmic raft
I was hoping they would
heady spear
uwu !!
heady spear
resellers will prolly have sales tho
cosmic raft
I don't stream, so no
twin lagoon
i don't stream either
heady spear
I need to get a work computerrrrrr