general

[peak ginkgo]

So I cant do 8x8

[coarse lily]

All joking aside - I don't have a problem with people who like LEDs on stuff. But I want, like, no LEDs on stuff and the options for the DIY PC market like that are tiny.

[peak ginkgo]

@void void You ever run Spigot 1.16.4?

[mossy vessel]

64gb is not a lot

[void void]

makes sense

[visual egret]

run

[mossy vessel]

I easily flood around 30-35 these days

[peak ginkgo]

God

I turn off Docker to conserve ram

LOL

[void void]

i thought you needed it for a pc not a server

[peak ginkgo]

Same thing

:^)

[coarse lily]

Haha

Everything's a server when you have malware!

[visual egret]

when testing*

[peak ginkgo]

I need htop for windows

[void void]

mirai be like

[mossy vessel]

htop for windows?

[coarse lily]

64GB is nice when you start doing big graphical things.

[peak ginkgo]

I use windows

and I want an htop screenshot

[coarse lily]

My desktop is only 32GB right now.

[mossy vessel]

But... but

[coarse lily]

But I run a lot of Photoshop and other image things.

[visual egret]

only

[peak ginkgo]

Found a rust version

ITS CALLED BOTTOM

LOL

[coarse lily]

Haha fair, but I need it for work. I run a lot of Java stuff for work.

[void void]

how good of an idea would it be to buy a machine for a minecraft server for like 20-30 friends and have it sitting in my house?

[limber knot]

64GB would probably be enough for me to not go into paging

[waxen panther]

great if you're tryna waste money

[peak ginkgo]

Building a rust binary

fans go brrr

[coarse lily]

Makes more sense to do a hosted or dedicated box.

[visual egret]

its called a dell optiplex

[limber knot]

I guess I could go down to 48GB

[coarse lily]

Your home line is likely not as great for hosting.

[limber knot]

my pagefile has now grown to 50GB

[void void]

did minecraft server hosting became so much more performance intensive or is it just a placebo

[peak ginkgo]

It's perf intensive

[visual egret]

since when?

<1.13.2 yeah

[void void]

like 1.7 LMAO

[peak ginkgo]

MC Hosting is all about single thread power

[void void]

that's when I was into servers tbh

[mossy vessel]

Dedis are just a placebo letting server admins sleep well, clearly

[peak ginkgo]

Most CPUs are a lot of threads with small power

[void void]

pentium 4 overclocked

[visual egret]

bro just write a minecraft server in python

[coarse lily]

Shit got a lot more heavy in 1.13+

[limber knot]

Minecraft serburs been intensive since 4eva

[vernal bone]

Lol that actually exists oskar

[limber knot]

and only get worse, just like websites c:

[coarse lily]

Python has a lot of things going for it but "faster than Java" isn't one of them.

[peak ginkgo]

https://u.dejay.dev/🧽🥔🤐.png

building rust

: )

[limber knot]

ya, .NET is where u wanna go

[coarse lily]

Ha

[coarse lily]

I just found out that an old project I used to work on just got redone in ASP. Not .NET. Like, 1996 ASP.

[visual egret]

what about PyPy

[void void]

quick question, in pterodactyl if i want a task to repeat, do i use cron? like */30

[peak ginkgo]

https://u.dejay.dev/🍟🛴🌎.png

This is working great

@void void Pterodactyl has stuff for cron built in

"scheduler"

[coarse lily]

Java would be faster still probably.

[visual egret]

i guess

[coarse lily]

PyPy is like, not a language.

[void void]

so */30 would make the task repeat?

[coarse lily]

It's like an implementation of a language.

[limber knot]

true OGs

[peak ginkgo]

Yes

Every 30m

[void void]

ty ily

[limber knot]

must b amazingly fast and lean

[peak ginkgo]

https://crontab.guru/#*/30_*_*_*_* @void void

This is ur frand

[visual egret]

write a custom minecraft server in assembly language, no dependencies allowed

speed

[void void]

minecraft server in scratch

[visual egret]

execution speed is meh though

[void void]

all i know about scratch is

funny icon combining

[peak ginkgo]

funny cat

[visual egret]

yes

cat

[void void]

[visual egret]

.g cats

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cats_(2019_film) -- Cats (2019 film) - Wikipedia: "Cats is a 2019 musical fantasy film based on the 1981 Tony Award-winning stage musical of the same name by Andrew Lloyd Webber, which in turn was..."

[visual egret]

NO

NOT THAT ONE

.g cat

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.cat.com/ -- Cat | global-selector | Caterpillar: "Genuine enabler of sustainable world progress and opportunity, defined by the brand attributes of global leadership, innovation and sustainability."

[visual egret]

bruh

[peak ginkgo]

.g cat grep

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13507889/difference-between-grep-vs-cat-and-grep -- difference between grep Vs cat and grep - Stack Overflow: "Functionally (in terms of output), those two are the same. The first one actually creates a separate process cat which simply send the contents of ..."

woah, intellij javadoc parsing

reader mode, wowo

[coarse lily]

Hm I hadn't actually heard of this:

https://github.com/Akarin-project/Akarin

[twin lagoon]

don't

[peak ginkgo]

https://u.dejay.dev/😰📧👹.png

not interested anymore

[coarse lily]

Haha

[void void]

hey

[peak ginkgo]

Any Bukkitish fork is fundamentally flawed because of Bukkit

[limber knot]

battle already lost wen u put an anime in ur readme

[visual egret]

uh oh

[slim nymph]

akarin is previously torch, the continuation of HOSE, the epic of memeness

[void void]

does anybody know a plugin where there is a chat for staff only all the ones i found are wayyyy outdated

[visual egret]

you just stared a war @peak ginkgo

[peak ginkgo]

🪓

[coarse lily]

If you want to leverage the existing plugins you have to have some bukkitishness.

[peak ginkgo]

I've got my axe

[visual egret]

*enables 1.8 pvp*

good luck with that axe

[viral hornet]

Was looking at some plugins that introduce boss mobs:
https://i.imgur.com/NjUU2JR.png

But: https://i.imgur.com/SDnZb80.png

[peak ginkgo]

Boss™️

[viral hornet]

Ya'll have made me paranoid

[mossy vessel]

🤡

[peak ginkgo]

RoboMWM: a TM plugin

[mossy vessel]

Camm

[visual egret]

hmm

[limber knot]

ah yes

[viral hornet]

nmf

[limber knot]

gonna file a trademark request for GP, brb

[viral hornet]

Haha

[visual egret]

holdup lemme trademark the trademark

[viral hornet]

ooo his plugin is opensource now tho

[coarse lily]

Camm I can PM you one if you want.

[visual egret]

banned

[formal turret]

theres mythicmobs if you don't want to use his plugin

[viral hornet]

omg

https://i.imgur.com/9ze8eT0.png

[viral hornet]

Sure! That would be great

[coarse lily]

Haha

[mossy vessel]

Boss is open source for years 👀

[limber knot]

isn't magmadum doing elitemobs

[visual egret]

yo camm i found a walthrough of that plugin https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

[void void]

who is kangarko and why is he memed

[formal turret]

because of his ads

and his academy thing is supposedly absolute trash

[peak ginkgo]

I can't find my meme, hold on

https://mineacademy.net

That was REALLY easy

[void void]

does anybody know a plugin where there is a chat for staff only all the ones i found are wayyyy outdated
Like /mod to talk in it or like #

[visual egret]

write your own

[olive marlin]

Maybe Carbon?

[void void]

im not experienced with java especiialy with writing plugins

[visual egret]

thats what i told my self 2 years ago

nothing has changed

[coarse lily]

Haha

[worn ember]

i checked the "abort stuck builds" on jenkins and it just decided its stuck after 1m when its still building

[olive marlin]

https://github.com/Hexaoxide/Carbon
I think Vic works on it. Only heard about it, never used it.

[olive marlin]

Tbh, not worth it. Just set timeout for the whole pipeline to at least a double of what you expect and forget about it.

[worn ember]

i just unchecked it

[olive marlin]

Especially if your builds are self-contained.

[worn ember]

they are

[olive marlin]

And let it build up to a few at a time and forget about it lol

[worn ember]

only took 5 tries to get working lul

[olive marlin]

Imagine needing a slave per build, couldn't be my new project.

Smh not having green status plugin.

[mossy vessel]

Delete past builds, set the next build number to 1 and act like it never happened.

[olive marlin]

DeD the most important Jenkins plugin you need to install NOW: https://plugins.jenkins.io/greenballs/

[mossy vessel]

Just get a proper theme which handles icons

[waxen panther]

essential ball moment

[mossy vessel]

Gonna stick to a proper checkmark https://i.imgur.com/btoT3Mc.png

[worn ember]

any recommended themes?

i really hate the default one

[olive marlin]

I'm so sick of Jenkins. But I don't know of any decent replacement.

[twin lagoon]

gitlab ci

[twin lagoon]

jenkins material

or blueocean as UI alternative

[spiral robin]

Michael how are you so smart

[olive marlin]

Blue ocean has lots of dependencies and is a whole new custom UI

[twin lagoon]

🥺

[olive marlin]

I hate it, but a lot of people at my work prefer it.

[twin lagoon]

not a huge fan of it either

[olive marlin]

The stages are displayed clearer.

So that's nice.

[worn ember]

yeah i think i saw blueocean before but decided not to use it since i wasnt even familiar with the default one lol

[mossy vessel]

TeamCity?

[olive marlin]

But it isn't good for viewing your loks which have thousands of lines of code.

[olive marlin]

Tried it like 2 years ago, couldn't figure how to setup my pipeline at all :/

I was thinking about using concourse. Nice thing is it forces you to use everything as code lol

[mossy vessel]

I've worked with Bamboo a bit, well, was forced to at some job. Looks cool but more something you would use in house. There is still something like drone.io I stumbled apart recently.

[olive marlin]

But idk. Don't like using yaml for more complex pipelines.

[coarse lily]

I don't think Bamboo is designed for free stuff.

[worn ember]

gui's

[coarse lily]

Bamboo makes a little more sense if you use the other Atlassian stuff.

[worn ember]

tbh devops is pretty sick too for ASP stuff

[mossy vessel]

Yeah, they had everything centralized on Atlassian products.

[coarse lily]

But even the heavy Atlassian shops I work with use Jenkins instead. :)

[olive marlin]

Iirc for CircleCI Ive written like 200+ lines of yaml defining caching functions to build docker containers with cache.

[mossy vessel]

You can still use gh actions or so for releases

Not something I'm a fan of tbh

[olive marlin]

For simple stuff I like GH actions. Apart from the fact that a lot of more complex stuff is hidden.

Like tried to automatically generate release message from commits. Finding how to send variable from bash script to the pipeline was a nightmare.

[mossy vessel]

I'd want to use it for releases, not for continuous stuff.

[olive marlin]

It isn't bad for simple CI. At least you don't have to maintain your CI somewhere else and everyone can easily use it.

But I often find myself wanting to do CD and I don't want to do more complex CD pipelines with GH actions, especially since they are not tied to single repo.

[mossy vessel]

True

I heard TC was pretty resource intensive, never ran it myself, I've always just used jenkins myself.

[olive marlin]

I know Jenkins quite thoroughly and that's why I don't want to use it lol

But I guess it'd be a bit different if I can setup Jenkins the way I want it.

But most IAAS Jenkins definitions suck.

I remember I had to end up running custom script console scripts to bootstrap a lot of things.

[worn ember]

much better

[formal turret]

ok guess i don't need energy drinks

[spiral robin]

energy drinks are bad

water is the only drink you ever need

[formal turret]

i thought i'd try a bang

but i'm not doing that again

good thing it wasn't a red bull then

[void void]

i guess its a bit innapropriate

well check the ingredients

if you see something with E google it

[limber knot]

caffeine is a weak man's drink

[formal turret]

meh, learned my lesson, wont drink them again lol

[void void]

for example tartrazine is used in cosmetics prducts
they put it in FOOD and to avoid saying tartrazine they just say E102

some " vegan food " contain pork but they label it as E codes to hide it you gotta read them xD

[coarse lily]

Damn right!

I haven't had caffeine in . . . . 543 days.

I do think it's a little weird that we as a society are kinda propped up on caffiene.

[void void]

leme ship you some starbucks then 🙂

[waxen panther]

FUCK starbucks

[formal turret]

eh, don't see any E ingredients or tartrazine

[waxen panther]

i HATE starbucks

[limber knot]

I have no desire for caffeine nor alcohol

[coarse lily]

But I will say that some of my best work was at 2AM heavily caffeinated.

[spiral robin]

why brocc

[coarse lily]

Ha! I was never big on coffee

[waxen panther]

it's stupid

they have stupid names

[coarse lily]

Haha

[limber knot]

ya don't like coffee taste

[mossy vessel]

You know another stupid name? broccolai.

[waxen panther]

why do you need a extra camaral 7 shot cloud mmachinajtop with extra gamer juice ?? ?

[limber knot]

and tea, only some types, and only if I'm congested or something

[waxen panther]

people take like 5 hours ordering starbucks drinks

pisses meoff

and HECK you NMF

[limber knot]

thai iced tea is pretty gud tho

[coarse lily]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0deaskGSuA

For brocc

[limber knot]

ya, switch to Brokkoli

[waxen panther]

fr why use stupid names for sizes

all my homies prefer Costa

[visual egret]

how do i enter venv in a bash script?
if i try: source OskarsMC/bin/activate it says ./pull_oskarsmc_main.sh: 11: source: not found, but it works in terminal

[limber knot]

hmm, oragono apparently is some actively developed irc server

with built-in bouncer

[twin lagoon]

add #!/bin/bash to the top of your script

[worn ember]

same tbh, i never drank coffee in my life lol (other than to taste it as a kid)

idk if coke zero has caffiene, probably some, but thats about the only i have xD

[waxen panther]

i love coffee

[peak ginkgo]

Just realized I can't use GH actions in one of my projects that depends on NMS without building Paper on GitHub actions

So no GitHub Packages for me

[waxen panther]

there's a cache thingy for gh actions

[peak ginkgo]

I'm not sure I'm smart enough to impl this without shipping paper in the project

breaks my workflow, fuck it

:(

[coarse lily]

Hi.

"exploits" seems like they'll have interesting questions

[waxen panther]

[coarse lily]

Haha

I remember jailbreaking the first iPhone.

[limpid comet]

stinky brocc

[coarse lily]

I was on IRC and someone was like "Hey does someone wanna try this? It may brick your shit" and I was like "Sure fuck it let's go"

It didn't brick it, thankfully.

Although I did hose the thing for a few days every so often

[minor badge]

back in your day, eh 👴🏻

[waxen panther]

I haven't jailbroken in awhile

Dead community

[coarse lily]

Haha

[waxen panther]

I just moderate a few of the discords now ^^

[coarse lily]

Yeah I mean fuck that was 13 years ago now.

Ugh.

Get off my lawn!

Yeah I haven't messed with any of that since like the iPhone 4 or something.

[void void]

leave a like if iOS is bad

leave a like if Android is bad

leave a like if you use landline

[waxen panther]

[void void]

what's that emoji

[coarse lily]

I still use a landline but I reject "liking" stuff because I'm old.

[coarse lily]

Proven because I still use a landline.

[waxen panther]

get it cuz, it's a water bottle

and like

cats

[void void]

?

u gonna clean me with water

uwu

[cunning raft]

[waxen panther]

wtf

[formal turret]

so kind of you broccolai

[waxen panther]

it's in the tuinity discord too, leaf stole it from me

[void void]

tuinity has a discord???'

yo im joining

[waxen panther]

yessir

good luck

[void void]

can you send link

[waxen panther]

it's the anarchy equivalent of paper

it's on the github i think

[void void]

ok

[limpid comet]

every day, paper-help feels more and more like the spigot channel

both a blessing and a curse, i suppose

[formal turret]

it's inevitable

[coarse lily]

Ha

[limpid comet]

yeah

i mean, it's a good sign

[coarse lily]

how do I minecraft

[limpid comet]

more people are adopting paper

[coarse lily]

Sometimes I look in paper-help and then am glad I'm not in paper-help.

[limpid comet]

yeah

[waxen panther]

i used to stand on the front lines of paper-help

i am a weaker man nowadays

cowering in #general

[coarse lily]

Ha

[limpid comet]

lol

[void void]

adopt

[limpid comet]

what

[void void]

me

[coarse lily]

Answering questions in general like "how do i create a minecraft server"

[limpid comet]

no

you use startcraft, my revolutionary new CLI tool

[coarse lily]

sh ./startcraft.sh?

[limpid comet]

npm i -g startcraft

no don't do that

i haven't uploaded the package

https://github.com/kadenscott/startcraft if you wanna check it out

[coarse lily]

Haha

[void void]

¬

[coarse lily]

I thought you were joking.

[limpid comet]

no

really its just for me - i create many test servers when im working on plugins, so having a quick cli thing to create em for me helps a lot

[coarse lily]

Yeah

I do the same thing.

And I also have folders and folders of old builds of shit.

[waxen panther]

i just have the one test server

[limpid comet]

i have yet to add command line flags so you can just create it without the TUI but that's coming soon

[void void]

who are these 2 guys

[limpid comet]

yeah same lol

[void void]

and why can't i join

[waxen panther]

you need to join waiting room

[coarse lily]

Although that came in handy Friday when the charity thing was 1.15.2 and I had all my client and server stuff for 1.15.2

[waxen panther]

and then they'll add you if they want

[coarse lily]

So I could spin up a test server and test it.

garbagemule created Discord.

Just hangs out here with us when they're bored.

Citymonstret is a cookie baker

And they're good friends.

[void void]

i want to be their friends too

uwu

[coarse lily]

The typing-sounds channel is restricted so someone with permissions has to move you in there. Typically if you sit in the waiting room they'll bring you in if what they're doing isn't private.

[void void]

oh ok

i think they're busy

[coarse lily]

Could be.

Or could be they don't know you and don't want you bring you in right now.

[void void]

Im a good guy

I also can't talk rn

[coarse lily]

...

blue 4 president.

[waxen panther]

blue 4 president.

also we need to get eternity a colour

#weloveeternity

[coarse lily]

I was not programmed for love but #colorforeternitywithnou

[limpid comet]

#yeahimdownforeternityhavingacolour

[waxen panther]

eternity is in my top 3/5 papermc members

[limpid comet]

wow really?

[worn ember]

@warm anchor dota wen

[limpid comet]

thats high

eternity is a cutie tho

[coarse lily]

I'm #1

Obviously.

Who are the other 3?

Actually don't say.

I wouldn't want anyone's feelings hurt.

We all know I'm on that list.

[spiral robin]

who's gonna tell him-

[worn ember]

i'd be glad not to be on his top

[coarse lily]

Haha

[waxen panther]

proxi, blue, aber, eternity

not in any order

ocelot is climbing though

[coarse lily]

Hahaha

[waxen panther]

top 20 and you've only been here like a week

[limpid comet]

pog

[spiral robin]

pog

[coarse lily]

Top 20 isn't bad.

I think I've been here a month or so though.

[waxen panther]

time is a concept i dont have

[coarse lily]

I don't do it for the credit.

That's reasonable.

I can't believe 2020 is almost over.

[worn ember]

ofc you do it for the credit, dont lie

[spiral robin]

2020 has been pog

[waxen panther]

great year

[coarse lily]

Nah if I did stuff for the credit I'd be annoyed at all the things I've never been awarded credit.

Clearly I do it for the money.

Wait.

[worn ember]

yeah, watching the death pile up is great

[coarse lily]

Shit.

Wait until I start submitting paper PRs with "this could use some more dinosaurs"

Then I'll be bottom 20.

[worn ember]

needs more config options

[coarse lily]

dinosaurs=true

[void void]

Hey what is the cheapest vpn possible I can buy

[limpid comet]

needs more emojis in readme.md

[void void]

To test stuff

[waxen panther]

i use pia

[coarse lily]

Can you be more specific in what you want to test?

[waxen panther]

idk if it's the cheapest though

[limpid comet]

tunnelbear

[void void]

terminal scripts that stuff

[coarse lily]

"I want to test something that requires 16GB of RAM" is going to have a different answer than "I want to test copying a text file from one folder to another"

[void void]

Nah

Just some scripts

[limpid comet]

oh, did you mean vps

[void void]

Yeah

[waxen panther]

digital ocean

[void void]

Oh that

vps

[waxen panther]

if it's not mc related

[limpid comet]

^

[coarse lily]

Oh man I assumed they meant VPS

[limpid comet]

you can even get free credits as a student

[coarse lily]

I misread correctly.

[void void]

Yeah I confused terms

[coarse lily]

That's funny.

[limpid comet]

through github iirc

[void void]

I miswrote incorrectly actually

or whatever you write that word

I did mean vps

[coarse lily]

Yeah DigitalOcean is who I'd recommend

[void void]

okay

ty

[coarse lily]

You can turn it on, do the thing, turn it off.

Their cheap tier is like $0.007/hr

So that's the cheapest.

[void void]

tff

[waxen panther]

awa

[coarse lily]

If you need something to stay up and want to pay monthly or you'll exceed the price with your needs then somehting like Linode is okay.

[void void]

oh hello broc

[limpid comet]

firing up the LOIC

[coarse lily]

They have a $5/mo option.

[waxen panther]

hello !

[limpid comet]

shouldnt have sent that ip kiddo

[void void]

[waxen panther]

lmao

[void void]

Enjoying my last nitro days

[waxen panther]

go ahead bluey xx

[minor badge]

theyre just chatting fyi, not busy

we talked for an hour or two

[limpid comet]

proxi pog

[void void]

[spiral robin]

proxi 🥺

[coarse lily]

Lately every time I find an interesting plugin repo proxi's on there as a comitter.

proxi++

[waxen panther]

have you used rororalgeling

@minor badge how do u spell it

[minor badge]

rörledning

[waxen panther]

thank u

[void void]

how do you spell ö

[minor badge]

rörledning (swe. pipeline) is very opinionated

[waxen panther]

whats pipeline in norwegian

[true canyon]

Why only linode for long term and not hourly?

[minor badge]

that may or may not be good

[waxen panther]

yes iti s

the right opinions though

[minor badge]

rørledning

[waxen panther]

hmmm

is that common?

[minor badge]

or røyrleidning

[coarse lily]

No strong opinion either way. You could do Linode's hourly stuff, too.

[waxen panther]

for swedish ös to be øs

[void void]

Proxi unblock me its been 2 months now 😔

[minor badge]

meh

sometimes

[waxen panther]

okie

[limpid comet]

what did you do to get blocked by proxi

[waxen panther]

i talked to my friend in norwegian for like an hour earlier

[limpid comet]

also hi mbax o/

[waxen panther]

am very proud

[coarse lily]

I haven't seen any of Linode's per-hour stuff.

[true canyon]

Speaking of spinning up things hourly, I was pretty entertained to see somebody spin up a 64 core AWS instance to brute force one of the Advent of Code challenges 😄

[void void]

There are several people that blocked me in here actually

[coarse lily]

I just know if you get the monthly thing it's likely to be cheaper than DO.

[void void]

More than usual

[viral hornet]

Yeah but

what did you do

[limpid comet]

and camm too?

[coarse lily]

Haha

[limpid comet]

it's a party in here wtf

[void void]

It's more like a hobby now

[true canyon]

It's their regular stuff. They charge hourly, up to a monthly max. That's just how it works now.

[coarse lily]

Oh gotcha. I'm out of the loop on that.

That's a pretty cool model, then.

[void void]

Wait what is cheapest linode vps plan

[coarse lily]

I might recommend that if you think you'd keep it.

It's only $.0005/hr more than DO but it's capped.

[void void]

I mean, cheapest monthly payment

[coarse lily]

$5/mo

[void void]

setup fees?

[coarse lily]

For their 1Gb instance.

I'm not sure if they have any.

[void void]

Let me see

[coarse lily]

I host my own stuff.

I've helped a few friends setup linode and other instances.

Thanks mbaxter.

I stand by my earlier comment - top lad. :)

[waxen panther]

i had to buy a server my friends one kept having it's internet go down

and people were COMPLAINING

now i have to pay for things

[coarse lily]

I just realized/discovered you can't mute/ignore someone on Slack.

That seals it. Discord > Slack

[void void]

😔

[coarse lily]

Is it . . . a stolen credit card?

[void void]

it's a virtual cc 😂

omg scammer

stop going on the dark web

[minor badge]

@waxen panther god natt !

jeg håper du sover godt når enn du bestemmer deg for å sove :)

[waxen panther]

sov godt, proxi!

[coarse lily]

Yeah I have one of those, too. :/

[waxen panther]

i dont know some of those

[minor badge]

learn !

[waxen panther]

ohhh its decide

[minor badge]

remember books are epic too

[coarse lily]

I have a box I originally got to divide up into VMs for friends. Then all the friends were like "nah" except one.

[waxen panther]

yes i bought a book of short stories in norwegian and it's helped a lot

[minor badge]

ideally you want to understand all but 1 in 7 words iirc

[void void]

You shall only keep TempleOS VM

[coarse lily]

So it's me and him. And every year I say "Hey man you sure you don't wanna, like, get another VM somewhere?" and he says "Nope!" so I keep the thing.

[waxen panther]

im just going to pretend nynorsk doesnm't exist for now

lmao ocelot

[minor badge]

kek

[waxen panther]

i earn nothing from what the projects do either, $5 a month is nothing but it's a lot when the revenue is $0

[minor badge]

also, consider getting vpn w norwegian location then browse https://nb.no (which have books that are geolocked)

[coarse lily]

Yeah same here.

[void void]

Wow swedish

[coarse lily]

smör!

[minor badge]

thats norwegian

[void void]

ok

[waxen panther]

thank you proxi

[void void]

Use NordVpn

[waxen panther]

i'll pass

[void void]

Code "nightwolf'"

For 10%

use a custom vpn

[minor badge]

aaand remember that news are terrific, brocc

[waxen panther]

my next vpn will be mullvad vpn

[minor badge]

they might be boring news, but great way to meet unexpected words

[waxen panther]

that’s a good idea

my friend said the dialects change a lot

[minor badge]

they do

very few people speak like they write

[waxen panther]

would the news be similar to like oslos one

[minor badge]

usually yes

NRK must legally have 25% of its content in Nynorsk, but VG and co. dont have that restriction

so they tend to go around 10%

[waxen panther]

lmao what

legally have to be partially new

that’s interesting

[minor badge]

yes

they must also have some amount in saami

dont remember specifically how much but its like 10% or smth

[waxen panther]

is the country trying to move to nynorsk or is just kinda whoever uses it uses it

[minor badge]

latter

[waxen panther]

does it say when they're in other ones

[void void]

Can i send a meme

[waxen panther]

okie

[minor badge]

#memes

it doesnt, really

[woven otter]

No u

[minor badge]

but youll notice it quickly

[void void]

it says a bad word tho can i send it

[waxen panther]

if it all looks weird i'll just skip it

if you have to ask it's not worth it, wolf

[void void]

it's on youtube

Whatever I'll just send

[woven otter]

I agree with dum vegetabl

[minor badge]

jeg -> eg, blir -> vert, hva/hvor/hvorfor -> kva/(kvar/kor)/kvifor, etc.

becomes pretty apparent :p

[woven otter]

Who

[waxen panther]

mfs really just changed h for k

[minor badge]

yeah

[woven otter]

Wat is that

[minor badge]

and a lot of Ås to Os, and more consistent conjugation

so "Jeg sitter" becomes "Eg sit"; the -er isnt thaaat common

[waxen panther]

is it pronounced the same

wait this is just written isn't it

[minor badge]

yep

[waxen panther]

idk how spoken norwegian works at all

[minor badge]

these are written languages

[woven otter]

.g kvar kor

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://ndla.no/subjects/subject:19/topic:1:186558/topic:1:123879/resource:1:192233 -- Norsk - Kvar, kor eller der? - NDLA: "14. nov 2018 ... Kan du formulere ein regel for når vi skal omsette hvor med kvar eller kor, og når vi skal omsette med der? Bokmål. Nynorsk. Hvor..."

[minor badge]

i can speak some bokmål, nynorsk, and a few dialects to you tomorrow

[void void]

@ėveryone @hėre

[woven otter]

@no u

[waxen panther]

wee

thank you proxi 🥺

[void void]

What happens

If i do it for real

[minor badge]

on that note, NDLA also has some good articles

NDLA being "Norsk Digital Læringsarena" / "Norwegian Digital Learning Arena"

[waxen panther]

arena lmao

am looking at it

[woven otter]

@everyone

Nothing

[void void]

@everyone

true

[waxen panther]

ooo this is like school materials

[void void]

I didn't get banned

[waxen panther]

this is good

[void void]

Epic

[woven otter]

yet

[minor badge]

it is, brocc

heres the "easiest" norwegian page for vgs (UK college) https://ndla.no/subjects/subject:80063181-61d8-4c52-9bbc-4313376175a2/?filters=urn:filter:605d33e0-1695-4540-9255-fc5e612e996f

the "Språket som system" can be useful, as that explains grammar and whatnot

[waxen panther]

i need to learn the rules, I've done a lot of duolingo and recognise words but it's hard to figure out new words

except from like the endings which are all pretty similar

[void void]

I feel you

[minor badge]

in bokmål youre lucky to be able to say everything is male or neuter

nynorsk does not have that luxury

[waxen panther]

if in doubt use et 😔

[minor badge]

no

use en if in doubt

[waxen panther]

this is not a mans world 😠

[minor badge]

ei is feminine

[waxen panther]

yea

[minor badge]

epic marina reference doe

[limpid comet]

every time i go to wrap gifts my cat comes and helps me

she rolls all over the wrapping paper

[minor badge]

good night now brocc !

we shall SPEAK tomorrow

[waxen panther]

ja, god natt !!

[minor badge]

nd i can go thru some grammar if you want

[waxen panther]

elsker deg

that would be great ty

[limpid comet]

goodnight proxi have a nice sleep

[minor badge]

elske means to be in romantic or deep platonic love

[waxen panther]

yes

[spiral robin]

Aw

[limpid comet]

when you wake up tomorrow i will be the embodiment of asciidoc

[spiral robin]

What are you doing now blue

[minor badge]

"jeg er glad i deg" would mean "i love you dearly as a friend/less romantically"

[limpid comet]

was wrapping gifts

[waxen panther]

elsker deg

jk

i will use that one

[limpid comet]

now just watching brocc simp for proxi

[spiral robin]

Mood

[waxen panther]

norwegian learning hours

[limpid comet]

wbu aber

[waxen panther]

we need #norwegian-science

[coarse lily]

Looks nice out there. I should go outside soon.

[woven otter]

Whos marina

[spiral robin]

Working on a big namelessmc update and a cubedcraft minigame 😷

[minor badge]

an artist, ducc

[spiral robin]

Now gonna make honey Garlic porkchops

[waxen panther]

i been workin' on procrastinatin'

[minor badge]

🥴

[woven otter]

MARINA?

[limpid comet]

wtf you code for cubedcraft?

[coarse lily]

That sounds awesome

[woven otter]

Oh her she has awesome songs

[minor badge]

yes

[spiral robin]

cubeDcraft not cubecraft

[limpid comet]

yeah still

[spiral robin]

Unfortunately

[limpid comet]

thats cool

[spiral robin]

Ye it's fun

[limpid comet]

i miss making minigames for servers

[minor badge]

@ Zed hire this man

[woven otter]

She is pretty hot too

[minor badge]

good night brocc !

[spiral robin]

Who is zed

[limpid comet]

i need my discord server to pop off and to open commissions again

[spiral robin]

It will

[limpid comet]

yeah, i mean, with my icons how could it fail

[spiral robin]

Exactly

[waxen panther]

gn gn !

[spiral robin]

And when your bot has that auto message embed thing

[limpid comet]

lol, it's actually just hardcoded

but the new version will

i should start working on the bot

ok why does intellij do this

the project view doesnt show my package's files

[spiral robin]

Borken env

Or is still indexing

[limpid comet]

no its just this

i created a base gradle project with the minecraft dev plugin

[waxen panther]

sus

[limpid comet]

if i switch to package view i get this

but its kinda cringe

[spiral robin]

Minecraft dev plugin is sus

[limpid comet]

wht is it

i thought thats what everyone used

[spiral robin]

Suspiciously POGGERS

[vernal moth]

its not

why don't you just, uncollapse your package?

lol

[limpid comet]

no thats not what im asking

in project view i can't see my packages files

i cant uncollapse it

oh i guess it is what im asking

[coarse lily]

Ha

[vernal moth]

project view normal works after gradle reimport

soemthing looks off

screenshot your module settings

[limpid comet]

oh

yeh

pressing the little refresh gradle button worked

lol

thanks

[vernal moth]

just gradle things

[limpid comet]

yeah :p

this is my second gradle project, can you tell

i just yay -Syu'd and im terrified

[void void]

Why does that look like a terminal command

and why do I want to execute

[lean kiln]

yay

[waxen panther]

You wont be able to if you're not on arch

[lean kiln]

you have to install yay

[worn ember]

i use btw

[waxen panther]

ded ur a windows user

[worn ember]

[void void]

Unblock me darkeye 😠

[worn ember]

never

[waxen panther]

DarkToxicDragon

[worn ember]

you havent seen anything

[runic shale]

what plugin that has a thing to where crate keys drop into players inventories at random times?

[worn ember]

[vernal moth]

how many patches before a jar qualifies as a paper jar?

I got 50 server patches on mojmap branch 🤔

[coarse lily]

What's mojmap do?

[zealous wedge]

well how many are there now? still 614?

[vernal moth]

turn this: https://hasteb.in/ovebamos.kotlin
into this: https://hasteb.in/qubinisa.kotlin

we got package names, we got class names, we got field names, we got method names, heck, we even got method param names in some places

its soooo much nicer

[coarse lily]

Oh nice.

Is that public?

[vernal moth]

yes but you cant really use it yet without building like 3 repos from source

[coarse lily]

Which 3? :)

[vernal moth]

need this https://github.com/CadixDev/Mercury/pull/35 https://github.com/DemonWav/paperweight and https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/tree/mappings/mojang

install the first two into local repo

[coarse lily]

What's the difference between paper and paperweight?

[vernal moth]

then ./gradlew patchPaper

[potent warren]

How's paperweight gonna affect Paper forks and byof?

[vernal moth]

paperweight is the gradle plugin that does all the heavy lifting

[olive garden]

read the readme and description of paperweight to find out

oh wait

[vernal moth]

byof is getting replaced by paperweight, forks can use paperweight too, or do whatever they want

[potent warren]

will I be able to rUn iT On wInDoWs wItH NoRmAl pErFoRmAnCe

[vernal moth]

I run it in wsl

[olive garden]

nick doesn't like WSL

[potent warren]

I don't have WSL installed and don't plan to either

[olive garden]

nick wants to use git bash

[potent warren]

nope

[vernal moth]

in theory it will work normally

[zealous wedge]

you can sorta run it on windows

[potent warren]

I want to use the normal shell

[olive garden]

you must make it work on windows

[vernal moth]

just maybe gotta fix some paths

[coarse lily]

This is why I asked :)

[zealous wedge]

there was a big at one point, dunno if demon got around to fixing it

[olive garden]

😉

[potent warren]

Isn't it supposed to work all inside Gradle anyway?

[vernal moth]

yes

[zealous wedge]

it uses git patches

[olive garden]

proper readmes are a luxury here for some reason

[vernal moth]

doesnt mean we are careful with how paths work

[warm anchor]

Real paper user read the entire code base

[vernal moth]

it can still break on windows

[warm anchor]

Who needs readme

[potent warren]

wait, why's that?

[vernal moth]

because windows stupid

[warm anchor]

^

[vernal moth]

/ vs \ basically

[coarse lily]

Okay so after I have those, where's your mojmap repo? Or is that tree in paper the bit?

[warm anchor]

Even windows can’t decide they wanna use / or \

[vernal moth]

Paper/Paper-Server

[potent warren]

doesn't java handle it already?

[zealous wedge]

it's that branch in paper

[vernal moth]

if you do it properly I guess

[coarse lily]

Thanks z.

Little z.

[vernal moth]

iirc stuff like this breaks on windows https://i.imgur.com/XU9GF71.png

[vernal moth]

this is how your paper repo on the mappings/mojang branch will look like https://i.imgur.com/md8HbLT.png

it obviously doesnt compile yet

[coarse lily]

Gotcha.

[vernal moth]

100 errors
2 warnings

> Task :Paper-Server:compileJava FAILED

(it caps at 100)

[coarse lily]

Ha

Doh!

I was about to say 100 wasn't bad.

[vernal moth]

most of that is because missing api impl

https://i.imgur.com/fqfACTi.png

so once all patches are moved over, that will go down drastically

ill prolly get a couple hundret done tomorrow or Wednesday

its rather fast

faster than a mc update

[ancient bolt]

Because paperweight does a lot of the heavy lifting for remapping patches too :D

[lime venture]

i love it when spigot plugins detect that they're running on paper and disable themselves

fuck devs who do that

[waxen panther]

what plugin is it

[vernal moth]

Once we get all patches over, i am sure we will find some more obscure issues

But if those are fixed manually in patches, who cares

[coarse lily]

What plugins do that?

[vernal moth]

I do believe that paperweight is in a pretty good state now

[lime venture]

FogusCore, which is a dependency of this plugin: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/ᵀᴼᴾ「goldencrates」▸-advanced-custom-crates-1-14-1-16.48732/

[19:31:40 WARN]: [FogusCore] > This plugin is designed to work on Spigot (spigotmc.org) only!```

[vernal moth]

Remember when I said I'll not work on it today yesterday? It's 2 am now 😂

[vernal moth]

I mean, if they wanna show a warning to the majority of their users, that's ok them i guess, lol

[lime venture]

nah the plugin disabled itself right after

[woven otter]

I wonder why lol

[vernal moth]

Kek

[woven otter]

usually that means they do something stupid

[potent warren]

time to make a setting that hides paper

Think of it like MagiskHide, but for hiding Paper, not root

[lime venture]

I'm pretty sure the entire plugin is NMS code anyways

[potent warren]

not the same plugin, but same author https://i.imgur.com/O1wLIci.png

[vernal moth]

https://github.com/nulli0n/NexEngine/blob/72069b9d592337ac6967e6bfaf41c4306d5a99b5/NexPluginEngine/src/su/nexmedia/engine/NexPlugin.java#L70

It should still work on paper

[coarse lily]

Haha

And?

[potent warren]

make a plugin that hides any Paper presence 👀

[lime venture]

my log message didn't have the ======= disclaimer ======= stuff so it's likely a different version from that link

but honestly i have no clue, it's not my server

just some kid's i'm helping with

[spiral robin]

Paperspigot

[vernal moth]

Search for a replacement plugin by an author that actually cares about his users, lol

[lime venture]

right? that's what i told him

i said to stop downloading obscure plugins and find one with decent ratings that does what you need

[waxen panther]

pretty sure every kid on spigot has made a crate plugin

im sure there are other, better, ones

[woven otter]

brocc...

[waxen panther]

yo

[lime venture]

i just found another one for craftbukkit, but that's at least understandable

if (!getServer().getVersion().contains("Spigot") && !getServer().getVersion().contains("Paper") && !getServer().getVersion().contains("Yatopia")) {
    getLogger().severe( "You probably run CraftBukkit... Please update atleast to spigot for this to work..." );
    getLogger().severe( "Plugin disabled!" );
    getServer().getPluginManager().disablePlugin( this );
    return;
}

honestly i haven't used craftbukkit in so long.. does it even work anymore?

like, are plugins built off the spigot api still compatible with cb?

[limpid comet]

eh kinda probably

[waxen panther]

for the most part

[limpid comet]

it's mostly added api, not changed api

[waxen panther]

they should check if its cb though, not spigot or paper

[cosmic raft]

👋

[waxen panther]

poor tuinity users :(

hello kash!

[cosmic raft]

[limpid comet]

kashy

hi

[vestal jasper]

No, you shouldn't check if CB.
You should check for functionality.

[waxen panther]

wait

LMAO

they allow yatopia but not tuinity

@cunning raft ?

[woven otter]

!getServer().getVersion().contains("Yatopia")
👀

[vestal jasper]

Again, check for functionality

[waxen panther]

no

[vestal jasper]

yes

[waxen panther]

check if its yatopia

if it is

[vestal jasper]

check if it's yatopia and instant disable

[waxen panther]

shut down the server

[woven otter]

no first delete the paper or tuinity

then replace the jar

[vestal jasper]

you could one up ProCosmetics and instead of just deleting the plugin jar if it gets mad, you just delete the entire server.

[woven otter]

then shut down the server

[lime venture]

are we friends with yatopia here?

[waxen panther]

no

[lime venture]

oh okay, fuck those guys amirite

[viral hornet]

yaTOPIAA??? 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

[waxen panther]

yaNOpia 😎

[spiral robin]

kashike

[woven otter]

NOtopia

[formal turret]

great implementation 👍 +5 from me

[cunning raft]

?

[waxen panther]

scroll up

[cunning raft]

what u need

[waxen panther]

essx should use that

[cunning raft]

nah

[waxen panther]

for the version checker

rather than ur pr

[cunning raft]

it's just a message

[waxen panther]

na

spigot paper and yatopia are the only valid softwares

[left swift]

i only use bukkit

[worn ember]

didnt know you were in TPH lol

[lime venture]

we're all in TPH on this blessed day

[viral hornet]

what is TPH

[spiral robin]

The perfect human

[austere ivy]

the programmer's hub

[spiral robin]

Camm

Oh

[austere ivy]

er

the programmer's hangout, sorry

[viral hornet]

🥺

[spiral robin]

Hello briandeener

Salutations

[austere ivy]

hello aberdeener :D

[lime venture]

super off-topic but is anyone else having issues with this bungeecord maven repo? https://oss.sonatype.org/content/groups/public/

getting a directory listing error trying to use it

[austere ivy]

hayden c'mon man you're totally breakin the flow of the convo

was just about to ask aber a very serious question 😔

also yeah I'm getting a directory listing error too

uhh, not an error actually, it just says directory listing is forbidden

[lime venture]

right, that's the repo listed on the spigot wiki and i'm not sure what else to use
https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bungeecord-maven/

[austere ivy]

I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume that it works but you can't access it via your web browser

[lime venture]

nah maven is complaining about it too

[austere ivy]

slap the bb into your maven and unless you're getting an erro- oh

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lime venture]

:(((

i hate maven so much, why isn't there a central package repo. it's like a 30% chance i fork someone's plugin and it all compiles perfectly fine without having to fight with everyone else's broken build servers and artifact repositories

[viral hornet]

move to gradle

much easier

[waxen panther]

damn bro yeah if only maven had a central repo

they could call it mavenCentral

oh shit

[spiral robin]

Damn bro

That would be wild bro

[waxen panther]

fr would be crazy

[spiral robin]

Wait bro

[austere ivy]

bros??

[viral hornet]

why are you two being mean

[spiral robin]

Gamers?

[lime venture]

gonna be honest i didn't know about that

[austere ivy]

maven central is included.. by default

[waxen panther]

sHIT what is this ??

i am not being mean

🥺

[austere ivy]

is it not?

[waxen panther]

no idea haven't used maven in ages

#GradleGang

[austere ivy]

yes hayden we love you, you should never, ever feel bad about not knowing something and being willing to learn

someone who shames you for not knowing something is toxic and you should not be friends with them

that said, it is fun to make a ha ha funny at you not knowing that

[waxen panther]

brian dont be mean

😠

[spiral robin]

I love you Hayden

[viral hornet]

😠

[waxen panther]

We love hayden

[lime venture]

yeah no worries, i'm very new to java development in general.

[waxen panther]

hayden emotes

[austere ivy]

:hayden:

[vernal moth]

But why

[austere ivy]

hey why the ___ don't I have hayden emotes?

[vernal moth]

Why are there no emotes if me?

[waxen panther]

[spiral robin]

:Martin:

[waxen panther]

whatcha mean

[worn ember]

@lime venture

 <repository>
            <id>bungeecord-repo</id>
            <url>https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots</url>
        </repository>
<dependency>
    <groupId>net.md-5</groupId>
    <artifactId>bungeecord-api</artifactId>
    <version>1.16-R0.4-SNAPSHOT</version>
    <type>jar</type>
    <scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>

excuse the formatting cba to fix it

[lime venture]

it's just a little frustrating coming from other languages where i never seem to have dependency resolution issues like i do with java ;_;

[vernal moth]

Is that from kyori?

[worn ember]

woops

[austere ivy]

java is a bit "fun" to work with in terms of dependencies :)

[worn ember]

those were the docs lul

[waxen panther]

ye mini

[lime venture]

it's okay, auto formatting saves the day as usual

[worn ember]

if that doesnt work its something on your end, cuz it works fine for me

[lime venture]

that fixed it, thank you so much

[worn ember]

also take a look at the minecraft dev plugin for intellij, saves you from having to set up stuff like this

altough now that i think of it, it seemed like the bungee repo was wrong there too

[mighty storm]

Do you need op to place structure blocks? like command blocks?

[unique snow]

Yes, command blocks require op lvl 2

I think 2 anyway

[mighty storm]

Yes it's 2

[unique snow]

You can use fill or setblock to manually place them though

Just that's a bit more advanced

[mighty storm]

Yeah, someone was asking if they should give players access to structure blocks, I would assume no

Plus they need op to place/interact I'd guess

[worn ember]

that doesnt exist in the java edition right?

[mighty storm]

it does

[worn ember]

nani

[mighty storm]

https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Structure_Block

It's just hidden and no one uses it

[worn ember]

since when

[mighty storm]

it's in the creative menu of bedrock though

1.9

[worn ember]

what the fuck