#general

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left swift
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Just wash em in the sink and hang them up for dry

mossy vessel
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They sometimes slip into my bag

limpid comet
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cringe

mossy vessel
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Can't help it

limpid comet
mental meadow
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Even if you don't do that, it still protects other people

heady spear
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fuck other people they don't care about me

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I am tryna protect myself

left swift
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I care about you sometimes city

heady spear
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ok imma setup a gofundme

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i wanna be the only person in my county wearing a mask

left swift
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What happened to onlyfans

mossy vessel
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Just get those basic ones

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You don't go out often anyway

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Wouldn't hurt you

heady spear
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the ones that explicitly say that they're useless?

left swift
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U think city is basic

minor badge
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hooray !

heady spear
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the cheap ones have a big label with "Do not protect against airborne disease"

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hooray !!

limber knotBOT
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get one with a proper filter against chemical attacks

left swift
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Lmao

heady spear
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you know what tho

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I'll just hire my friend to go grocery shopping for me

waxen panther
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ok

left swift
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What if ur friend gets covid then coughs on ur groceries when they give them to you

waxen panther
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$20/hr + 5/per kg of groceries

heady spear
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then we can quarantine together

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that's goals right there

mossy vessel
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Just let them deliver the groceries to your flat

limber knotBOT
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taking longer than 15 minutes to go shopping smh

heady spear
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$20/hr is cheap

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I'd easily pay that

waxen panther
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pay me then 😔

left swift
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You can pay me 20$/hour and I'll show you pictures of groceries instead sound like a deal?

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No contact needed

minor badge
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do you run thru the store, phoenix?

left swift
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And a great diet

heady spear
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15 minutes is more than enough time to get infected

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I could pay for delivery instead but rn im poor

mossy vessel
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I need at least 30 minutes+ if I buy stuff for the entire week.

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smh

heady spear
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& I need to eat enough to get my ass juicy & plump

limber knotBOT
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why would I need to run? takes only like 5 minutes to get everything that I need in the store lol

left swift
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pay 20$/hour for groceries

too poor for deliveries

heady spear
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I was JOKING

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heard about a JOKE before?

limber knotBOT
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(I guess if you have to go to some big one it takes longer just because of their size but my local one which is like 5 minutes walking away isn't that big)

left swift
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Who can tell with you

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Ur such a mystery city

heady spear
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u clearly can't

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smh

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my head

waxen panther
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whats a joke?

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this is a very serious channel.

left swift
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I need my /j tags otherwise I wont know

still cosmos
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Typing on phone is a disaster

left swift
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How am I supposed to know the tone of a sentence if there isnt a tag at the end of it telling me what the tone is!

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Shaking smh

still cosmos
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@left swift is stupid /s

left swift
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No stupid is /l1ttle

still cosmos
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That wasn't sarcasm, that was serious

left swift
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The 2nd s word u said was /s

limber knotBOT
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jokes banned

still cosmos
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Then nomana should be gone

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Because they are a joke

left swift
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Where am I going

worn ember
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hopefully somewhere far away

left swift
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U paying I got some ideas in mind

limpid comet
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cool startcraft supports paper now

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now i can actually use it

visual egret
ashen cliff
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Good.

visual egret
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brocc remember this from 5 days ago? that was funny

left swift
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Slice of pi

visual egret
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mmm

still cosmos
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I feel so mad when people spell "imposter"

visual egret
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impostor

still cosmos
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FINALLY SOMEONE KNOWS

unreal quarry
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impasta

visual egret
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pasta

waxen panther
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you can do it

twin lagoon
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christmas came early™️

unreal quarry
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hearing aids?

twin lagoon
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yes

mental meadow
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finally michael can hear again

twin lagoon
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well atleast they're not oral-b brushes

visual egret
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-peform a backwards-boosted bunnyhop

left swift
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Perform

visual egret
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oop

void void
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object oriented programming?

ashen cliff
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Function oriented programming.

waxen panther
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programming oriented programming

untold copper
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programing?

ashen cliff
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Scripting.

unreal quarry
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functional abstract programming (fap)

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runs away

ashen cliff
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Yeah, that's what I did for my last project.

waxen panther
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I've been practicing that all day

void void
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oh noooooooooooooooooooooooo

runic shale
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hi guys

void void
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hello

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welcome

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to Paper Mc

ashen cliff
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2.0.

void void
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more like 1.17

unreal quarry
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wow, paper 2.0 is so old people exist now that dont know what it means

void void
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I joined like 2 weeks ago

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because my devs told me they had to update to Jakarta 11 for paper 1.17

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I didn't even know this discord existed

runic shale
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How to make my own server hosting?

vernal moth
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jakarta 11

quasi valley
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needing a "version" for creating proper community guidelines is a meme anyways 😂

cosmic raft
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lmao this is fun

vernal moth
coarse lily
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Oh man is Apache Jakarta still a thing?

runic shale
cosmic raft
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Trying to import Netty into IntelliJ crashes IntelliJ completely

vernal moth
cosmic raft
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It exits fully

next wind
runic shale
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ah

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I was just carious

limber knotBOT
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It's something you do once you are knowledgeable

runic shale
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gotcha bot

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lol

limber knotBOT
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s/do/can do

teal cedar
limber knotBOT
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Correction, <sulu> It's something you can do once you are knowledgeable

coarse lily
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Smart bot

next wind
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if just curious, you would probably want to learn about pterodactyl and linux administration

unreal quarry
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learning? wat

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this is 2020

runic shale
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yuy

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yup

coarse lily
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Pterodactyl please

waxen panther
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learning? reading? no.

coarse lily
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Needs more dinosaurs.

runic shale
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LMAO SOOOOO fun(not)

visual egret
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now for the API server kekwhyper

worn ember
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thats hot

visual egret
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wait

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there isnt a proper api endpoint that is ready for production

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umm

worn ember
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for what

visual egret
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ill push it anyway, wcgw

spiral robin
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Hi

visual egret
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hi

spiral robin
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How is redoing windows and MySQL going

visual egret
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windows is meh

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mysql is still 1/3 done

still cosmos
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No one cares.

spiral robin
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I care

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Oskar keep it up ! vibing_cat

next wind
mental meadow
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?warn @dusk drift Your attitude on our Github and towards Paper contributors is not okay. Stop it or we will ban you.

leaden oxideBOT
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dynoSuccess Warning logged for HexedHero#0001. I couldn't DM them. || Your attitude on our Github and towards Paper contributors is not okay. Stop it or we will ban you.

twin lagoon
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@mental meadow meowhuggies

mental meadow
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michael uwu

void void
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uwu

visual egret
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wait what happened

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golden gust
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Lana Del Rey ❤️

mental meadow
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proxi is your goal to make me cry

minor badge
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she is epic

mental meadow
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I feel the comment

Lana Del Rey could sing the instructions to a vacuum cleaner and I would cry

twin lagoon
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who

waxen panther
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who

worn ember
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Wtf swearing

quasi valley
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Dana Rel Dey?

golden gust
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Tellin ya

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that place is dangerous

waxen panther
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Tellin ya

golden gust
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all your blood pooling in the head 24/7

waxen panther
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that cat is epic 😎

dusk drift
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Wtf did I do lmfao

worn ember
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Existing is enough in 2020

dusk drift
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Guess I can't tell someone to port forward their srv coz no one is seeing it on their srv list kek

waxen panther
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on our Github

dusk drift
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Then I'm even more confused to what I said

visual egret
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what did happen?

woven otter
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wow rude. how dare you help someone?
I hope it wasnt brocc

worn ember
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Who knows

waxen panther
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I never need help happyshark

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only to understand city's pipeline lib

worn ember
waxen panther
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ded u cant even figure out configurate

worn ember
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Old joke is old

spiral robin
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configurate vibing_cat

waxen panther
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old joke is still true

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configurate catJAM

worn ember
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Go ahead and do it for me if it's so easy

woven otter
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configureit

waxen panther
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i did it in my test plugin in about 8 seconds yesterday

worn ember
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It just doesn't work well for how it's set up currently

mental meadow
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I wanted to DM you, but you have your DM's off 😦

waxen panther
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DumbEyeDragon ammirite 😎 👌

visual egret
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what happened though

dusk drift
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Their open

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please tell me

vernal moth
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moderation decisions are generally not discussed in public guys

spiral robin
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they're*

woven otter
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brocc no bullying you ugly vegetable

vernal moth
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thats something between mods and the user in question

visual egret
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ah

waxen panther
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i know you love me really duck

visual egret
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okay

worn ember
woven otter
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that's sad. censorship is taking over the world but brocc and his fake wife is even sadder

spiral robin
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i am not fake

waxen panther
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fr aber is right there how can you call them fake

woven otter
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idk who that is

worn ember
waxen panther
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they're pink !!

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i am nice to you most days 😠

worn ember
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No. U suk

waxen panther
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no more suggesting deds rtp then 😠

vernal moth
woven otter
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ahh so we now slide into Hexed's dms

worn ember
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Well yeah. I just don't think that's that big of a deal to ask about it

woven otter
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paper has changed for sure not sure if for better or worse

worn ember
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Shh duck

vernal moth
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you asked and you got your answer ^^

warm anchor
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@waxen panther

waxen panther
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:rielove: :rielove: phoslove

warm anchor
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Soooon

waxen panther
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i am excited

coarse lily
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We got this mini waffle maker and it’s my new favorite thing.

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I’m going to exclusively eat waffles now.

vernal moth
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is that burned?

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ah no, marmalade or smth?

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oh its part of the dough?

coarse lily
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Blueberries!

vernal moth
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uuh

warm anchor
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Is that usb charged. It will be perfect if it is. Imagine making waffles on the go

vernal moth
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using your phone as battery bank 😂

coarse lily
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Haha no it’s 350W

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A USB one would be funny though.

warm anchor
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I’d buy it

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Just so I can flex on people

worn ember
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I mean

waxen panther
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@warm anchor prof. eternity

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did the same icon guy do your avatar

warm anchor
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Yes

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He’s our community artist

waxen panther
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his page didn't have a commission link Sadge

warm anchor
waxen panther
spiral robin
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eternity's emotes always so cute

waxen panther
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they are epic

warm anchor
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Yeah he’s dead half of the time. He did plan to open one next year though if you are interested

waxen panther
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ooo yeah

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that would be nice

warm anchor
waxen panther
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i commissioned something earlier this year but i didn't end up liking it

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not from him

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unrelated

warm anchor
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I see yeah it’s better to see the art style first then commission

waxen panther
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their portfolio was good but they couldn't draw a guy lol

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didn't realise that literally all of their art was of females before i paid

warm anchor
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Hahahaahhaha

coarse lily
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Haha

spiral robin
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haha

warm anchor
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@waxen panther I made fun of our guy too. He’s not that good with lewd coz he doesn’t have a gf KEK

waxen panther
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lmfao

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did you try to get lewd emotes smh

worn ember
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Smh pervs

void void
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yeah

woven otter
meager tusk
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Hello.

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How is everyone today.

waxen panther
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i said did you dumbo

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hello panda man !

meager tusk
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🥦 PES_Heart

next wind
waxen panther
meager tusk
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wtf i need that emote?

untold copper
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hai

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wassup

warm anchor
meager tusk
woven otter
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brocc you are a weirdo creep and a perv also a liar 😭

meager tusk
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@twin lagoon PES3_Wave michaelheart

mental meadow
waxen panther
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wtf

twin lagoon
waxen panther
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i am not any of those things duck

warm anchor
waxen panther
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and yeah eternity, they're dota players Kappa

warm anchor
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Lol

mental meadow
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ameowrainbowheart @twin lagoon @waxen panther

twin lagoon
warm anchor
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I opened a MC eternal server for 2 days and one play is clocking in 39 hours. @waxen panther

meager tusk
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PES3_GayLove as close as I can get to a rainbow heart

untold copper
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whats mc eternal

waxen panther
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39 hours wtf

warm anchor
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It’s forge Modded Minecraft

untold copper
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ooh

worn ember
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probably afk grinding

untold copper
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Can I join?

woven otter
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what is that

warm anchor
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@untold copper you can.

warm anchor
untold copper
warm anchor
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Let me DM you

untold copper
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k

woven otter
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please dm

waxen panther
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duck never dms me

warm anchor
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Don’t dislike me broccoli I don’t DM people often either

waxen panther
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no i cannot dislike you pleahaw

woven otter
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brocc never responds

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stupid

warm anchor
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Lol

untold copper
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brocc has better things to do

warm anchor
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I am just used to chat in public channel so I don’t really DM people

untold copper
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than to reply to a ducks dm's

waxen panther
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that's right, I'm far too busy staring at an ide for 19 hours a day

untold copper
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lol

warm anchor
waxen panther
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it's telling me to commit so i guess so 😔

meager tusk
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It's telling you to move.

worn ember
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move faster

waxen panther
warm anchor
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Imagine being told by machine to do work poor broccolai

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Enslaved by his ide

worn ember
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isnt that exactly what programmers are?

meager tusk
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move faster?

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Oh wait.

warm anchor
meager tusk
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He can't do that. Programmer.

warm anchor
worn ember
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your compiler telling you you're incompetent and need to do a better job if you want it to work

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story of my life

warm anchor
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“I don’t understand your work” “this doesn’t work”

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Lol

meager tusk
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I'm not laughing out loud Sadge

warm anchor
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Hitting on the right spot I see

waxen panther
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deep down, all of us are incompetent

untold copper
waxen panther
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me and duck are having a great conversation in dms

worn ember
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thats nice

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but seriously, configurate pr wen brocc?

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times ticking

meager tusk
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what's configurate

waxen panther
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i cant read your code sorry

worn ember
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are you a kotlin skrub or something?

waxen panther
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configurate is a library made by our lovely zml2008 !

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no i am a java man

woven otter
untold copper
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@warm anchor 233 Mods? damn

woven otter
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like u

meager tusk
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pogU link?

woven otter
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🙂

slim nymph
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plugins can use that w/o support for it in paper

waxen panther
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is epic, supports hocon too

warm anchor
woven otter
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the real question is yaml comment support when

worn ember
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i just need to redo my entire config system to use configurate tbh and i cba to right now

woven otter
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zml pls 😦

meager tusk
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i just tend to use TOML on my personal stuff PES2_Shrug

waxen panther
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toml is okay, i like hocon dou

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toml is especially scary to admins

worn ember
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if i had personal stuff i wouldnt even use a config

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hardcoding ftw

woven otter
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yaml sucks but try to feed anything else to spigot people

meager tusk
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force feeds hocon

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You're gonna CONFIGURE IN HOCON AND YOU'LL LIKE IT TE_BabyRage

wide chasm
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TOML is nice

slim nymph
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its config, it shouldnt be complicated

woven otter
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hmm interesting I have an ad for immigration to canada THONK

worn ember
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using it shouldnt be either tho

slim nymph
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whats complicated about bukkits api?

wide chasm
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TOML is pretty easy, but knowing server admins...

worn ember
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also whats the point of having a config if you cant have comments

waxen panther
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bukkits api sucks

meager tusk
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@woven otter i get an email like that very often

waxen panther
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also is obviously not good for making cross platform plugins

worn ember
meager tusk
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bukkit's api is pretty okay, but I like being able to parse configuration into objects directly.

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easier on me PES2_Shrug

twin lagoon
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idriz clappywappy

wide chasm
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It's fine at best

meager tusk
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Michale clappywappy

slim nymph
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k thats a valid concern

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wasnt there some snakeyaml fork to add comments

worn ember
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i think it i was in the 4.0 yml spec or something

merry talon
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weird since immigrating to canada is like impossible

slim nymph
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i dont care about specs

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there was a fork that said fuck the spec and added it

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should just use that

worn ember
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pr it to paper 🙂

cunning raft
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configurate added support iirc

wide chasm
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Be like me, don't use comments 🙂

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Or do if you don't hate your server owners

vernal moth
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Just fork the spec ^^

cunning raft
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there's the pr tracking the change

worn ember
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i have comments on the config.yml that comes with the plugin, but if you alter anything through commands its bye bye

worn ember
wide chasm
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There are surprisingly few people who ask questions about the config.yml/messages.yml actually. Even though the messages.yml is like 88kB

worn ember
limber knotBOT
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@slim nymph it should be simple for the user :p but there are a ton of edge cases and issues server admins have just learned to tolerate over the years - like being told to re-create their configs when a change happens, and losing comments and sometimes order or other formatting when the plugin makes changes to the config file

wide chasm
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People reset their configs on a change?

slim nymph
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but thats not a config library problem, migrations are a developer problem

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losing comments yes is valid, but thats not bukkits fault, thats yamls

limber knotBOT
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a config library can make migrations easier :p

slim nymph
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we have migrations in paper, outside of providing a method for versioning, not seeing any real benefits

limber knotBOT
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bukkit also uses the Representer api and not the Node api in snakeyaml, which loses even more information

mental meadow
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zml uwu meowhuggies

wide chasm
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I just scan the config in the JAR and the one the user has and add missing stuff

slim nymph
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api to help migrations feels like trying to pull a DFU, and I see DFU as one of the largest examples of how to do it wrong

worn ember
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isnt the whole point of an API to make your life easier tho

limber knotBOT
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it's quite lightweight - just a map of version number to a Function

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with some extra helpers to declare paths to work on

slim nymph
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if (version < 32) {
boolean oldValue = getBoolean("old-key");
deleteKey("old-key");
setConfig("new-key", oldValue ? 1 : 2);
}

wide chasm
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Eww version numbers

slim nymph
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@zealous wedge sure it can provide that, but thats trivial stuff lol

worn ember
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oops

slim nymph
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sincerely hope that wouldnt be a "this api is so much better!"

golden gust
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snake has actually added comment support now iirc

slim nymph
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did anything break with support? can we update?

golden gust
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No idea

limber knotBOT
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hasn't looked like it has cat? unless it's in snakeyaml engine (the yaml 1.2 breaking version)

golden gust
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I haven't looked, only concern for me would be if something like essentials worked or not

cosmic raft
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@twin lagoon uwu

golden gust
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No idea of any plugins which hook into yaml directly, so 🤷‍♂️

twin lagoon
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@cosmic raft uwu

golden gust
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would also need to be patched into the API too

slim nymph
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im sure a lot

worn ember
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sucks to be them then

slim nymph
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or wait nvm

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im confusing yamlconfiguration with snakeyml directly

limber knotBOT
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im tellin ya dumeydeas, we gotta unite and monopolize the rtp market

worn ember
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i finished my module system already lol

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now i just gotta figure out how to get meh jars on the server

limber knotBOT
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no problem u can just pr it all

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I already accepted 2 mega big and mega dum PRs, might as well just accept anything now

worn ember
next wind
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wrong discord lol

limber knotBOT
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dumcord

olive marlin
limber knotBOT
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comments in config r dum

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config is config not documentation too

olive marlin
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Yes.

limber knotBOT
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make ur config nodes clear, use gud names

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self documenting config c:

olive marlin
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But I want to be able to open config and not need to search online for outdated information etc.

limber knotBOT
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I wanna be able to version my config files

worn ember
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i just like to document stuff so i can tell my users to just go read the documentation

limber knotBOT
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well in that case

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just make a UI for your config

olive marlin
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It documents my code and also gives smarter users ability to not having to go to wiki and dumber users get link to wiki lol

limber knotBOT
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might as well go all user friendly in that case

lusty yarrow
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Thoughts on tuinity?

limber knotBOT
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is gud

lusty yarrow
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Paper< ?

limber knotBOT
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rules are actually common sense there

void void
limber knotBOT
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a la old paper

lusty yarrow
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Better than paper?

void void
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yes

lusty yarrow
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ok

void void
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ofc

limber knotBOT
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better than paper dumcord in some ways but it doesn't have IRC

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so that's a major con

lusty yarrow
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whats IRC?

void void
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Internet Radio control

limber knotBOT
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ha

lusty yarrow
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i heard paper is better for smaller servers and tuinity is better for 50+ people

limber knotBOT
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whoever you heard that from is dum

next wind
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thats a goal of tuiniuity but thats not at all true

limber knotBOT
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there are few cases where something is worse on smaller but better on bigger

coarse lily
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^

limber knotBOT
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few, if any

coarse lily
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With regards to software, at least.

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If it’s fast it’s fast. It isn’t going to be slower with less to do.

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Unless it was built by blind monkeys.

olive marlin
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Tuwunity has a bit of bleeding-edge changes. It's a bit better when it works, but has its issues.

void void
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tf

olive marlin
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Just like Paper. You need to choose what you are willing to give up.

void void
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mc maintenance or wat

limber knotBOT
#

idk what issues it has rn

coarse lily
#

Tuinity has some good ideas but I think paper is more stable and predictable.

peak dirge
#

TFW you realize Gradle hasn't been running your tests in months

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ugh

limber knotBOT
#

once upon a time that's how I thought of paper

coarse lily
#

Tux tests are for quitters.

peak dirge
olive marlin
#

Paper got some changes from Tuinity and I wish it could get more. Just I know plenty of them are being tested there and issues ironed out.

peak dirge
#

needed to write a few tests and they didn't run, which lead to me fixing all the tests and a bug

untold copper
#

Velocity's logo is so cool

golden gust
#

I should probably look into why java 11 shits itself with waterfall at some point

untold copper
#

just saying

limber knotBOT
#

really the only downside of downstream forks, other than potentially bad implementation decisions, is not being updated as frequently with upstream

worn ember
#

@olive marlin just use tuinity then

peak dirge
#

some random guy DMed me on Discord, I paid him $50 to make it, it works

untold copper
#

its cool :)

peak dirge
#

wish I had an SVG of it though

visual egret
#

scammed

slim nymph
#

we pull changes from tuinity when able. just some of them are more complicated when it depends on other patches changes

peak dirge
#

well, I could've paid $5 to someone on Fiverr, but honestly I just didn't give a shit

slim nymph
#

the new light engine looks nice

waxen panther
#

so nice

coarse lily
#

$50 is solid for that logo.

olive marlin
visual egret
#

but no svg

slim nymph
#

we just need you to verify issues on paper 😛

worn ember
#

fair enough

coarse lily
#

No but maybe they could export an SVG if you contacted them.

olive marlin
#

For now haven't really had time and reason to do that.

peak dirge
#

I can find a vector guy somewhere to redo the logo as an SVG. Some day.

slim nymph
#

leaf has a lot of drastic changes in it, so the risk of a bug being caused by tuinity is way higher than paper vs spigot really

olive marlin
#

Drastic improvements sometimes require drastic changes.

coarse lily
#

Tux I know some folks if you want me to have them take a crack at it.

slim nymph
#

dont disagree, we hold the same ideas 😛

minor badge
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the light engine is also not bug-compatible at all, which i don't think is an issue for anyone but the odd single person who always must complain lol

slim nymph
#

what is bug compatible mean

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people who want bugs in light?

minor badge
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keeping vanilla behaviour

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yes

worn ember
#

just make config option for it kappa

coarse lily
#

Weird

minor badge
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i know one (1) person who is annoyed with that

slim nymph
#

wtf case can someone depend on light bugs?

golden gust
#

Stuff like that is generally arse to make configurable

waxen panther
#

some exploits use light glitches

golden gust
#

mob farm type BS, maaaaaybe

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only place afaik where lighting matters

coarse lily
#

“I like how broken it is in vanilla” is not a good reason to complain.

minor badge
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ngl i've never had a problem with incompatibilities with vanilla on neither paper nor tuinity

worn ember
#

yeah that wont stop them tho

slim nymph
#

maybe we can get mojang to adopt it

coarse lily
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Haha

minor badge
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and if i ever hit one, i'll probably just.. change a config option and/or fork and it's fine

golden gust
#

Assuming it looks right, I personally don't see any massive issues

untold copper
#

@coarse lily wanna play vanilla survival

golden gust
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Better than what we have now

minor badge
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tuinity's light engine is great

golden gust
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lighting system causes so many issues right now

coarse lily
#

@untold copper I already am

minor badge
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quite a few servers run it in prod (cc michale)

untold copper
waxen panther
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michael :pleading _ face:

untold copper
#

the hell

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how

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lol

slim nymph
#

hopefully leaf will pr it here once its stable, that ones complex id much prefer a pr than us pulling it

minor badge
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he won't

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@waxen panther ban commits ?

waxen panther
#

ban commits !!

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i liked your enum way of doing the queries

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sadge to see it gone

minor badge
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i did too

waxen panther
#

i stole it anyway

minor badge
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but i wanna support pgsql without copying it

waxen panther
#

well, a little different but similar

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are you going to do row mappers?

minor badge
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for some things yes

waxen panther
#

interested to see how you're going to integrate mappers with guice

minor badge
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not a whole lot can get any use of them though

olive marlin
#

Did leaf said he won't PR stuff to Paper anymore? Hurt for getting silenced?

waxen panther
#

i saw you had static fromRow methods

minor badge
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just factories?

waxen panther
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ah okie

minor badge
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i just removed the fromRow methods

waxen panther
#

hot

untold copper
#

omg loading mods

minor badge
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but yeah i'd pull a factory; look at ICloudArgumentFactory

untold copper
#

is so SLOW

minor badge
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only 4gb memory weirdchamp

untold copper
#

oh

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I'll change

waxen panther
#

thank u thank u, will go look

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my guice is improving

untold copper
#

when I figure out how to kek

minor badge
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i generally run 10gb when playing modpacks

limber knotBOT
#

that's why I've never done mods

untold copper
minor badge
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just look at guice-assistedinject, brocc

limber knotBOT
#

I ain't about to give my heccin client 8GB+ RAM

untold copper
#

16GB - 10GB = 6GB which is uh like enough for os

minor badge
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CloudArgumentFactoryModule has example on how to """construct""" the factory

limber knotBOT
#

43GB committed, and I ain't even runnin a game

untold copper
#

the sadge thing is

minor badge
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and remember that @Inject for one constructor, @AssistedInject for 2+

untold copper
#

im not even running the right version of the modpack

minor badge
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which is dumb but meh

limber knotBOT
untold copper
#

so I'll have to launch again

minor badge
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weirdchamp ?

waxen panther
#

ooo this is very nice

spiral robin
#

proxi pleapeach

minor badge
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helo aber

median canyon
#

What a good datacenter you guys would recommend?

spiral robin
#

contabo

limber knotBOT
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so no, 6GB is not enough for everything else

minor badge
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aber plox

worn ember
#

@untold copper what mc version?

waxen panther
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wish guice didn't print da warning on startup though

spiral robin
#

plox what proixi

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median canyon
#

thanks, ill check those out. I use hetzner right now

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and ive used OVH in the past

olive marlin
#

Hetzner only issue is USA players.

waxen panther
#

phoenix nap is very cool

untold copper
worn ember
#

that wasnt a very complicated question tho lol

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the modpack

untold copper
#

ooh

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this

worn ember
coarse lily
#

For 1.16.4?

untold copper
#

1.12.2

coarse lily
#

Or 1.16.3?

untold copper
#

its 1.12.2

coarse lily
#

Oof

worn ember
#

still the best version for mods tbh

untold copper
#

says right here

worn ember
#

its not gonna load faster cuz of it tho

untold copper
#

ye

worn ember
limber knotBOT
#

as often as u update ur sad tp plogen

stiff yarrow
#

the datacenter is so close to me

untold copper
void void
#

and use diff ci software

limber knotBOT
#

u have so many updates to get so many downloads yet not so many users huh

worn ember
#

i just got it working bro

limber knotBOT
#

ah yes

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ur starting 2 sound like qball's update cadence

untold copper
#

qball ew

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that scam author of a plugin

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lmao whole pc lagging now

limber knotBOT
#

6gb not enuf for everything else

untold copper
vernal moth
limber knotBOT
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ppl assume o ya haha ram plentiful haha no problem to use more ram for stuff hahahahaha

untold copper
#

I've given 8

vernal moth
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Some refreshment and then time for paperweight again

untold copper
#

for other stuff

limber knotBOT
#

did you like

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not see my screenshot

worn ember
limber knotBOT
#

my machine is using a total of 43GB, meaning most of that is paged away

untold copper
#

lmao i bet a lotta them are from my server

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ppls spam /rtp non stop damn

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and it doesn't even lag uwu

worn ember
limber knotBOT
#

no

worn ember
#

i think im releasing the module system today or tomorrow

limber knotBOT
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that's my computer

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not my server

untold copper
limber knotBOT
#

o

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bstats

worn ember
#

it basically replaces the validators with seperate jars you can add to the addon folder

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so people can create any validator and it'll just work

limber knotBOT
#

how do u record that lol

worn ember
#

as long as the correct plugins are loaded

coarse lily
#

I mentioned this last night but I'm still pretty proud of it: we did a build in Skyblock over the weekend for a charity thing.

limber knotBOT
#

do u just save total amount in current session

worn ember
limber knotBOT
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no like the method

worn ember
#

i count every rtp until its sent, then reset it

limber knotBOT
#

cuz bstats reports periodically

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ah

worn ember
limber knotBOT
#

ah right cuz it's a callback it does

worn ember
#

yeah

limber knotBOT
#

got it

coarse lily
#

I'm starting to feel like I need to make another randomTP plugin.

worn ember
#

join the club

limber knotBOT
#

there's one type of chart I want, a scatterplot that I requested some years ago

coarse lily
#

Of what?

worn ember
#

they're working on adding some charts i think

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like multilines and stuff

vernal moth
#

fuck I forgot that mulled wine has 12%o alc

coarse lily
#

Oh from bStats

worn ember
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"forgot" right

coarse lily
#

RIP Mini

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Who runs bStats?

worn ember
#

bastian

vernal moth
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bastian does

coarse lily
#

Ah right.

vernal moth
#

hes in here but best way to contact would be his own discord, linked on the website

worn ember
#

i'd love to see some upgrades on the graphs

limber knotBOT
#

hmm where the hecc did my request go

worn ember
#

but idk js at all so i'm not even gonna touch it

coarse lily
#

I try not to message/ping random maintainers/owners on Discord.

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Other than mbaxter because sometimes mbaxter just needs love.

worn ember
#

you should ping them multiple times a second to make sure you got their attention

limber knotBOT
#

ah found it

coarse lily
#

Good call DED

limber knotBOT
#

want to represent the distribution of a certain config's values

worn ember
#

bstats just gotta get as good as grafana with their graphs, ez

limber knotBOT
#

for number-based values

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such as integers, doubles, etc.

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cuz... a pie chart ain't gonna look great for that lol

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and obviously a time-based line chart just doesn't work

coarse lily
#

I have a big meeting with a C level person today. Always a good time.

worn ember
#

cant you just use a bar chart for that?

limber knotBOT
#

is there bar chart? maybe it's been added since

worn ember
#

whats a c level? cunt level?

coarse lily
#

Chief. Like CEO, CTO, etc.

worn ember
#

close enough

coarse lily
#

"Big important person"

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Although obviously titles are often meaningless.

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This is a pretty big company.

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And I have to present a bunch of stuff to them.

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So it'll be interesting.

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Could go smoothly. Could go horribly.

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We'll see!

untold copper
#

ocelotpotpie so can i join ur survival ?

limber knotBOT
#

bar chart is gon dumeye

waxen panther
#

thank you robo mwm

coarse lily
#

If we get a few more people interested I can turn back on the other new one, though.

untold copper
#

I just wanna play some mc with ppl I can talk to

limber knotBOT
#

u can play on mine c:

spiral robin
#

mc is for nerds 😎

waxen panther
#

this is the wrong place for finding people to play mc with

untold copper
limber knotBOT
#

ya

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lul

untold copper
#

o.o

waxen panther
#

mlg server inbound

untold copper
#

gib ip

limber knotBOT
#

unless u save it Brokkoli, it's forever sidelined 4 now

olive marlin
# stiff yarrow I got a 20ms response time to an OVH dedi I rent

OVH has a lot better network than Hetzner. I had one community member mention, that he has better experience when using VPN to Germany, from were it went to Hetzner to France (don't quote me on exact countries). And after giving other USA members VPN access for testing, most confirmed it. After switching to OVH which is further from me than my previous Hetzner box was, almost everyone's latency dropped significantly.

limber knotBOT
#

um, I think I have a link on my website snoopa

untold copper
#

can you link the site?

limber knotBOT
coarse lily
#

ad bans.

potent fossil
#

What

warm anchor
#

lol

untold copper
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u dont has link

warm anchor
#

does that ping all 3 people again, Simple Think always wonder how that works

coarse lily
#

simple are you doing care packages?

untold copper
#

ip*

coarse lily
#

I'll take one!

potent fossil
#

What

limber knotBOT
#

click the server name lol

waxen panther
#

nah eternity, the new replies dont ping people that were pinged

limber knotBOT
#

it's there

limber knotBOT
#

tho I'm gonna eventually migrate the site to GitHub pages too

waxen panther
#

much better than quotes in that regard

warm anchor
#

oh you mean the ping inside ping

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I see

waxen panther
#

well i need to @warm anchor

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yeah

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do that one

warm anchor
#

It will be a clusterfuck if it just continue to pings

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LOL

untold copper
#

ree which 1

limber knotBOT
#

I'm beginning to suspect u might b 2 dum 2 play

warm anchor
#

I like that webpage robo

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simple and get to the point

mossy vessel
#

Simple, informative; classic.

untold copper
#

Pretty

warm anchor
#

and blind you at night weebravemove

mossy vessel
#

Darkreader default lol

warm anchor
#

xD

limber knotBOT
#

I can't be bothered to figure out web design and I know just enough raw tags to get me by lol

untold copper
#

oh

limber knotBOT
#

I may do some Jekyll stuff in the future, maybe. idk.

untold copper
#

found it

mossy vessel
#

Who bothers with web design when you can use plain ol html

limber knotBOT
#

that's how I learned if you remember the book I linked

untold copper
#

no

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just

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no

potent fossil
#

Who bothers with semantic html tags when you can just use div only 😳

limber knotBOT
#

what's no lol

untold copper
#

me

untold copper
#

atleast make it half decent

limber knotBOT
#

that's all player-made

mossy vessel
#

Never got around html much, just went straight to the proper tools.

limber knotBOT
#

it's made that way on purpose btw, look outside

mossy vessel
#

Not wasting my time on simple stuff like that

void void
#

html is not simple

limber knotBOT
#

I don't even use divs lol

potent fossil
#

lol

limber knotBOT
#

<br> away

void void
#

no

limber knotBOT
#

website go <br>

waxen panther
#

bruh

void void
#

you should use <br />

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not <br>

untold copper
#

XD

limber knotBOT
#

ya I do <br/>

waxen panther
#

SPACE

potent fossil
#

Alright y'all are idiots I'ma go make coffee bai

void void
#

UwU bye

limber knotBOT
#

PR it

untold copper
#

damn

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so much progress

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i cant play on this others will destroy meh

coarse lily
limber knotBOT
#

wut u mean destroy u lol

#

it's not factions

waxen panther
#

nah ocelot, this is 2020

#

we use js to do our html now.

coarse lily
#

Haha

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Web3.0

limber knotBOT
#

one of those guys in chat is 3 days old to the server btw

mossy vessel
#

Never said this has to be done in C.

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But we have 2020 and smarter alternatives exist.

coarse lily
#

For webpages? Like what?

mossy vessel
#

Dunno why I should stick to html only shrug_animated

limber knotBOT
#

markdown ftw

slim nymph
#

well, does JSX still count as html though? it is html syntax lol

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i feel like it should

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its html in js as a mixed syntax

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just some alterations to attribute names

coarse lily
#

Yeah all the JS/JSX stuff is still outputting HTML.

olive marlin
coarse lily
#

That's like saying "I don't use a database I use Hibernate"

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You're still using a database.

#

Except if you don't know any HTML when your scripts start outputting weird stuff you can't debug it now.

slim nymph
#

technically its outputting dom nodes 😛

coarse lily
#

Haha

slim nymph
#

html is a syntax to output dom nodes too

slim nymph
#

so you can say react is not actually outputting html

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just the browser provided a mechanism to view an html representation of the dom tree

coarse lily
#

React isn't dumping everything into memory.

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It's not like you have a <html></html> and that's it.

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There's still a fair amount of markup there.

slim nymph
#

not in mine lol

coarse lily
#

Haha

untold copper
#

you have all the uh

slim nymph
#

we literally have 2 divs, could be 1 even

untold copper
#

!DOCTYPE and everything

slim nymph
#

im sure you can prob target document.body w/o a div too

coarse lily
#

Where's your site, Aikar?

warm anchor
#

Empire MC something something or the timing page Think

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it's Google's first result I think unless you mean his Personal site

coarse lily
#

Whichever one he's using that pattern with React

untold copper
#

EmpireMC is quite high up on the server lists tho

mossy vessel
#

I'd like to get into web stuff again, but the lack of creativity and my own dissatisfaction always pulls me back.

untold copper
#

don't

#

do web dev

coarse lily
#

Yeah I mean there's only so many hours in a day.

#

You gotta pick what stuff you wanna mess with.

olive marlin
coarse lily
#

I do a fair amount of web dev.

#

But most (maybe all?) of my own stuff is offline.

#

Cobbler's kids and their shoes etc

limber knotBOT
#

I despise web devs that don't respect muh memory

#

lul

warm anchor
#

USE AS MANY AS YOU WANT

#

everyone have 16 GB anyway /s

untold copper
#

Eternity which is ur main mc server?

coarse lily
#

I don't love the current trend of "just send the client a bunch of JS and let them do all the work"

limber knotBOT
#

16GB not even enuf

warm anchor
#

SMP but my community is multi games @untold copper so we dont stick to one lol

limber knotBOT
#

currently went down to 42GB committed

slim nymph
#

EMC doesnt use react, Timings itself does lol

warm anchor
#

Aikarmake timing website mobile friendly when?

coarse lily
mossy vessel
slim nymph
#

i use it on mobile all the time?

#

your free to PR improvements

slim nymph
#

but its hard to get what timings displays too much friendlier

coarse lily
#

Yeah it's a lot of data for mobile.

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To display, I mean

slim nymph
#

landscape its pretty usable though

olive marlin
warm anchor
waxen panther
#

cuties only

mossy vessel
slim nymph
limber knotBOT
#

yikes brok

slim nymph
#

the overlap is main issue

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PR's welcome!

waxen panther
#

if overlap: dont

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😎

olive marlin
coarse lily
slim nymph
warm anchor
#

yeah I always have to flip my mobile phone to landscape to click on Lag and ALL

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on timing

mossy vessel
warm anchor
#

LOL

coarse lily
#

I probably should have guessed that.

slim nymph
#

it is possible to run a local instance, just need php setup

mossy vessel
#

Apparently they are doing stuff again, have been dead for a good while.

limber knotBOT
#

my only request is to have the slider default to the entire time range or to the last few minutes

slim nymph
#

well i dont wanna default all, thatll make initial load of timings slower as it has more data to load

#

end instead of start i can see since typically its used when problems have occurred

#

thats a tiny change in front end code to change which slices it defaults to

warm anchor
stiff yarrow
#

is khan academy still a good resource for self learning math? or is there a better one

peak ginkgo
twin lagoon
#

lol the fuck

warm anchor
#

o.O

peak ginkgo
#

This happens when the cname is cloudflare proxied and not

#

This is pain

twin lagoon
#

might just be caching on the last one actually

#

you shouldn't have to proxy it

void void
#

cloudflare is good

#

but their ddos protection is meh

peak ginkgo
#

It's not being proxied

twin lagoon
#

ddos protection is fine

#

their free plan ddos protection is ass but that's to be expected

peak ginkgo
#

It was before my client had me come look

void void
peak ginkgo
#

I don't really use it for the ddos prot

twin lagoon
#

not if you configure it correctly

#

and use a paid plan

peak ginkgo
#

All my domains depend on CF as a Registrar lol

void void
twin lagoon
#

trust me on that one

void void
peak ginkgo
void void
visual egret
#

im on 8GB, is more ram what i should be hoping for for christmas?

void void
coarse lily
visual egret
#

and java eats ram

void void
#

or like rendering/etc

peak ginkgo
#

I only bought more than 8GB of ram because I wanted to flex on my friend

#

I just had to have a better computer

void void
mossy vessel
#

8GB kekw

visual egret
#

if my brother gets a ps5 i need to get an RTX 3060 Ti

#

only logical move

peak ginkgo
#

EXACTLY

mossy vessel
#

I recently upgraded from 2x4 to 2x32

#

feels like charm

peak ginkgo
#

@void void I was gonna do 16, but he said he had 16 and I doubled

#

I have 4x4

#

no 4x8

#

yeah 4ex8

visual egret
#

i got 2x4 i think

void void
#

ur brother getting the ps5 from his sugar mama not from santa 💀

peak ginkgo
mossy vessel
#

Feels like a charm when you don't have to close IJ and want to open Spotify.

peak ginkgo
#

Just my luck it's no longer being sold on amazon

#

or is out of stock

#

I might go 4x16 and call it a life

coarse lily
#

LED RAM is everything wrong with this world.

visual egret
#

imagine you could buy VRAM

peak ginkgo
#

It's beautiful @coarse lily

visual egret
#

that would be nice

coarse lily
#

Manyellsatcloud.jpg

visual egret
#

becase hl:a is really not liking this gpu

mossy vessel
#

LED gives more performance

visual egret
#

or any other modern game

void void
#

rgb=fps

peak ginkgo
#

I'm actually only considering non led ram because corsair doesnt make the white pro ram st icks in 4x16

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And I only have 4 slots