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viral hornet
vestal jasper
Yeah no camm prefix and aliases are separate systems
Prefix means SAYING the prefix sends the rest of the message in staff
viral hornet
Ahh okay
So I think the aliases don't work then
because it only started working when I added that in last night
viral hornet
So then
message-prefix: '/s ' should work as intended then?
I don't remember if chatreload does anything other than config.yml
vestal jasper
Those two systems have 0 overlap, I truly honestly do not believe that setting the prefix fixes aliases
viral hornet
But i'll just check in the morning after restart because >5:30PM
vestal jasper
It does, in the build you're using
viral hornet
Oh okay cool
vestal jasper
it reloads all files and loads them in
the only thing it doesn't do is add/remove channels
does update settings of already loaded channels though
potent fossil
visual egret
https://tenor.com/view/explosion-boom-iron-man-gif-14282225
simple predicted it but a few hours after it happened
coarse lily
Simple is good at post-predictions.
potent fossil
bold iron
I'm looking for a plugin like ftp that can control file because my server don't have ftp...
zealous wedge
you want to use sftp/scp
there's no plugin that can do it as safely as the normal tools
and anyone who blocks you from using normal tools is not someone you should be giving money to
void void
.g java apache sshd implementation
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://keathmilligan.net/embedding-apache-mina-sshd -- Embedding the Apache MINA sshd server | Keath Milligan: "Aug 18, 2019 ... A simple example of embedding the latest version of the Apache MINA pure Java SSHD server in an application."
ancient bolt
I have a new theory on modern software development strategy: Antisocial Paranoia Driven Development - development centered solely around the design to limit any discussions with other people as possible. Basically when you build a big complicated API for exchanging data between teams just so you don't have to send them a slack message when you change the name of a database column
limpid comet
oh my god
the hohoho role isn't the worst colour on this planet anymore
paper discord im so proud
potent fossil
wat
potent fossil
ok weirdo
limpid comet
wtf
vernal moth
Ppl were concerned that stolen accs could be migrated, so this is most likely part of the response to that
peak ginkgo
@austere ivy OH
I KNOW HOW TO DO THAT
It's still returned in your user object, Mojang/Microsoft/Minecraft/whoever just doesn't give that to you in the UI
limpid comet
completely OT; but is 1.17 raising the required java ver or am i just making that up
peak ginkgo
potent fossil
:PepeLaugh:
peak ginkgo
This createdAt value is an epoch
peak ginkgo
waxen panther
@limpid comet no
peak ginkgo
And this would be accurate, mostly because I remember the date.
waxen panther
well it might be but the paper thing is just cuz paper wants to
and they should want to
visual egret
Wow some people just have an elevated IQ
potent fossil
coarse lily
https://u.dejay.dev/🖲🦍🗞.png
Haha!
potent fossil
fixed
limpid comet
ok thanaks bwocci
round grove
potent fossil
what the fuck.
limpid comet
thats truly optimized
vernal moth
Wow some people just have an elevated IQ
It's 1000 IQ strat, make ppl scared of the vaccine so there's more for you
peak ginkgo
"hey bro what the fuck"
round grove
a plugin
limpid comet
nothings faster than a simple number check
potent fossil
good god use a loop
vernal moth
That's mostly a bad decompiler
round grove
also look at this
limpid comet
inefficient
round grove
limpid comet
yeah what mini said tho
peak ginkgo
the font tells me jd-gui
vernal moth
That was a switch on material
limpid comet
ive seen shit like that in decompiled code
potent fossil
hope it's a bad decompiler
round grove
limpid comet
u can just put stuff in ```s or a gist yknow
peak ginkgo
I'm still lookin at jd-gui
vernal moth
Just use procyon
round grove
ima try fern then
vernal moth
It uses procyon so yes ^^
vernal moth
Mmh, why are the decompilers not able to recover it properly
Oh wait, that array is in another class, wat
It might be the real code, lmao
vernal moth
I don't get it tho
round grove
Mmh, why are the decompilers not able to recover it properly
this one doesent even do anything because of the shit switch
its the same looking at the bytecode
vernal moth
Heh
vernal moth
Have you looked at a normal enum switch in bytecode?
Also, i just woke up and didn't have my first beer coffee yet
round grove
there is Materials.array or smth
vernal moth
Values()
round grove
Also, i just woke up and didn't have my first ~~beer~~ coffee yet
then go get your beer coffee
vernal moth
For that I would have to leave bed tho
round grove
are you on fone
vernal moth
Yes sir
round grove
this can be done with a simple if
vernal moth
Kek, a friend of mine just got told by his company (big e-commerce) to do a minecraft plugin
Guess as a learning exerice or smth
He's still an apprentice
But: they use spigot
So now I have to instruct him on how to quietly update the instruction to use the paper api instead 😂 😂
round grove
heck, even a simple return
boolean alala(Block block) {
return (block.getType().ordinal() > 78);
}
still cosmos
the HOHOHO role color became red instead of dark red
coarse lily
Never met an ecomm company that's suggest playing/developing MC
round grove
paper api adds much more
vernal moth
Does the ecommerce company do java stuff normally?
They do in some teams, yeah. They are all over the place tho, every team does something differently, even hosting wise, it's a mess
vernal moth
spigot api* tarsh
Be careful, one of those is by me!
round grove
o
vernal moth
Is that really so common?
coarse lily
For ecomm, seemingly yes.
vernal moth
We just have a pipeline team and they manage CI/CD plus platform for everybody
coarse lily
They either have a skeleton crew and farm stuff out that gets rewritten every year.
round grove
Be careful, one of those is by me!
which one
vernal moth
They are at scale tho, they are basically germanies amazon
This isn't a small company
coarse lily
Or they have a bunch of teams that are all doing different stuff in little pockets.
Yeah I've mostly worked with big Fortune 500 companies.
In that space, anyway,
vernal moth
Strange
One would assume that especially in that case, a homogeneous and thus cheap infra and arch is important
But maybe moving fast is more important
coarse lily
I concur!
I think they sometimes get to be victims of their own success.
In the US, at least, a lot of it comes down to rotating management as well.
vernal moth
It's an old company
coarse lily
New person rolls in, ha some metrics to hit or something they want to do (usually tied to a bonus) and then they push hard for it. "Let's move everything from X to Y! Y is better!"
Big development push, lots of hours and money spent, migration done. Sometimes well sometimes badly.
That person leaves. Next person rolls in and says "We should really be on X! Y is costing us time and money!"
So they do it all over again
Repeat for ~20 years.
Meanwhile all the contracting folks and headhunters and third party systems integration folks swim in bathtubs full of money.
vernal moth
Yeah for them it's just every team does their own thing
They don't even all use ms teams, some are on slack
coarse lily
Haha yeah you end up with these little pockets.
And they tend to use the tools/languages/etc that they like.
vernal moth
Like, wtf, how can you have a company without a unified communication platform?
coarse lily
I've worked with both and I'm not 100% convinced that the one is any better than the other.
cosmic raft
ugh this hurts
vernal moth
There needs to be a middle ground I guess
I would setup one core infra, pipeline, platform, communications, etc
And then let ppl shit out docker containers
coarse lily
Ha
vernal moth
And just define that apis have to look like X
coarse lily
Sometimes the momentum is hard to break.
Especially if they're using old tech/code.
Half the companies I've worked with in the last 5 years still just use VirtualBox with linux VMs.
vernal moth
there's like, a pain in one side of my neck. hurts to turn my head, swallow
Does drinking hot tea help?
coarse lily
Although that's 90% Oracle stuff.
Oof that sucks kashike. :(
Neck pain is the worst.
cosmic raft
I don't even know what causes it or where it came from
coarse lily
I've worked a bunch with IBM also.
vernal moth
Which is how you can tell that I work in insurance
coarse lily
Pros and cons there, too.
vernal moth
I didn't find pros yet
We getting rid of everything that has anything to do with IBM
But it's a really slow process
coarse lily
Last time I worked with them it was that the company was large and had a lot of resources to bear.
But it's very "oldschool IBM" mentality in some ways.
vernal moth
We have all our internal processes build with custom ibm lotus notes apps
coarse lily
Lots of smart folks were there in the division I was working with, though.
vernal moth
So they all have to be moved out
coarse lily
Yeah Lotus Notes is the fucking worst.
vernal moth
Then we can get rid of lotus notes
vernal moth
We also had everything running on ibm websphere, that we already managed to migrated to jboss (which is ibm now too, lmfao)
Oh and we got a nice mainframe and everything in DB2 databases
Migrating to postgres is really hard
coarse lily
IIRC Lotus 1-2-3 is why old PCs had a "turbo" button.
Which actually meant "slow down".
"Slow down for Lotus 1-2-3"
vernal moth
Notes is usable, it's not the worst tool I work with daily
coarse lily
I haven't touched it since like 2015.
vernal moth
Our cms is a java web start fat client
I bet it wasn't updated since 2015, lmao
We moving everything to outlook in that regard
coarse lily
Oof web start
potent fossil
Fucking Comcast keeps doing maintenance or something around 1:40am every two weeks or something
coarse lily
I'm not a fan of Outlook.
But MS is steamrolling everyone because of the O365 stuff.
potent fossil
I'm currently using mobile data to get net on my pc
vernal moth
What corp mail setup would you use?
coarse lily
"Y'all want Word and Excel and Powerpoint so you may as well have Outlook and Teams"
vernal moth
Considering we need to self host
Actually not sure if that's still a hard req
Since outlook would be azure?
coarse lily
I should say: Outlook/Exchange isn't inherently bad if you allow for IMAP.
Because then at least you can use whatever client.
IMO email should be client agnostic.
GSuite isn't bad for that.
vernal moth
We have strong data protection reqs
coarse lily
For corp stuff it's probably either Google or MS.
vernal moth
So don't think Google is an option
coarse lily
There's a way to do that with Google.
vernal moth
Azure has german DCs
coarse lily
Google has a HIPAA compliant thing.
Well, I haven't worked with German companies as much.
So I should say: there's a way to do that with Google in the US.
vernal moth
German is hardcore ok regulation, especially in fiance
We can't use CloudFlare cause they don't allow to limit to german DCs
Which is like, so stupid
Cause that's the whole point of CF
coarse lily
Yeah I dig a lot of the German stuff.
It's been pushing more privacy stuff to other places, which is nice.
In the US it's garbage.
Germany/EU at least has some protections.
vernal moth
It's only so hard for finance and insurance, for the rest, these are not hard requirements, just recommendations
But it's actually nice, like for CDN/ddos, gov agencies tests all companies, compares them, gives recommendations
Huge charts with comparisons and stuff
coarse lily
The biggest regulation stuff in the US is for healthcare.
vernal moth
That's tax payer money well spend
coarse lily
If you're holding onto PHI then you have to comply with a bunch of stuff.
vernal moth
We offer private healthcare to, we are not a public healthcare insurance tho
coarse lily
I did a few healthcare things and the requirements were tricky to navigate but manageable.
I've never been to Germany. High on my list of places to visit, though. I have German cars. :)
vernal moth
Every contact we sign with google or msft gets reviewed by a gov agency
And if they don't like the privacy police, msft has to rewrite
coarse lily
Ha
vernal moth
I've never been to Germany. High on my list of places to visit, though. I have G...
If you ever come, cologne is a beautiful city and amazing beer ;)
Everybody I know online who visits me qualifies for a free beer 🍻
coarse lily
Haha awesome! I don't drink beer but maybe there's a rootbeer option.
coarse lily
I wanted to fly into Belgium and then drive through Germany, so I'd definitely roll through Cologne.
waxen panther
would they even let you in if you dont drink beer?
coarse lily
Good question.
Maybe I could get a letter of recommendation from my other German friends.
potent fossil
German immigration interview:
how long do you plan to stay?
30 days
where do you plan to live?
cologne
you agree you will be here for tourist purposes only?
yes
good, good one more question. do you drink beer?
no
DENIED
coarse lily
Haha
vernal moth
How does traveling to europe work for ppl anyways?
Do you gotta get visa for every country?
potent fossil
Depends where you're from
vernal moth
Cause like, for me I just sit into a car and start driving till I hit the sea, no matter what country 😂
potent fossil
American passports are accepted w/o prior visa for 30 days in quite a few countries, same for european ones
vernal moth
Don't even need a passport
potent fossil
And germany is part of the schengen area, so yeah
you can go in between schengen areas w/o a passport
vernal moth
If you are a citizen, sure
coarse lily
Yeah.
vernal moth
But do you still need to inform other countries somehow?
potent fossil
you inform them when you arrive
vernal moth
Speaking about ppl from outside the EU simple
potent fossil
at customs
coarse lily
When you cross the border you're letting them know.
potent fossil
then you fill out a sheet and they decide yay or nay
if nay you turn around, get back on plane and byebye
coarse lily
You only really get into trouble when you try to leave and they say "Hey this passport stamp is from 2012, dude."
coarse lily
Yeah once you're in schengen it's like being inside the US. You can travel around without any trouble.
vernal moth
Basically what I am asking if schengen makes traveling for foreigners easier too
coarse lily
Yeah
coarse lily
There are some rules you're supposed to follow but it's pretty easy to follow them.
Right exactly.
Just like here - if foreigners couldn't go from state to state then there's be border checks everywhere.
vernal moth
I can't imagine a europe with borders, it sounds so insane
vernal moth
That's similar to going from germany to italy thru swiss I guess
coarse lily
Yeah could be.
vernal moth
Oh no swiss is schengen too iirc
coarse lily
Right now Canada's border is closed to the US.
But you can get an exemption for Alaska.
You of course need to justify going there and you get only a certain amount of time to do it.
But driving to Alaska right now isn't the most fun thing in the world. Better in July.
void void
so since nashorn is not present in java 15, what should i use?
for javascript that is
i heard you can pull in graalvm's javascript impl
but doesn't that require you to actually use graalvm?
vernal moth
You can shade Nashorn, you can shade the graal impl, you can do whatever
Nah, the graal js thingy works on hotspot too
Just not at native speeds
void void
alright, thanks - that's all i needed to know
vernal moth
(iirc been a while, go test)
void void
sufficient enough for my smol scripting purposes
vernal moth
Yeah
Idk if graal or Nashorn is nicer tooling wise
For interopt
Graal js supports more modern js features tho iirc
potent fossil
Wait you can shade in graal w/o having to run your code on graal vm?
I was searching for that a while ago too
heady spear
don't they have an "external" library for that?
potent fossil
i have no idea im asking
heady spear
we were looking into using it in plotsquared but I think we settled for a skript addon 😛
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
wow, I just realized that I only have 4 working days left this year
including today
olive garden
I have more finals this year than how many working days you have this year :(
void void
we were looking into using it in plotsquared but I think we settled for a skript...
gross
left swift
City more like town
potent fossil
sendhelp more like leavethemtheretodie
left swift
Rood
potent fossil
don't worry you'll respawn
mental meadow
That was a nice boom
potent fossil
void void
City more like town
*farm
golden gust
If vscode and the ssh server are on the same machine/network, not all routers support reverse nat
Beyond that 🤷♂️
fluid elm
im in school, i dont think port 4200 is blocked and my servers are at home
potent fossil
they probably logged it too. idk if they will, but my school pulled me into the office to ask why i was 'hacking' once lol
they logged me trying to ssh -.-
fluid elm
nah i did it like 50 times by now
and i thought port 22 was blocked
so next move was to change port
potent fossil
port 22 probably is, but they also block the protocol itself
fluid elm
sick
potent fossil
not sure why android studio just brought my PC to its knees for a second and then opened just fine
but ok
oh nvm it's still frozen
fluid elm
not sure why android studio just brought my PC to its knees for a second and the...
its android studio
mental meadow
If you can try using a vpn
still cosmos
they probably logged it too. idk if they will, but my school pulled me into the ...
ssh user@ip.net
school: HACKER
potent fossil
pretty much
potent fossil
i mean, it was the IT department who went to the AP and was like "can you call this student in"
potent fossil
and I basically just told them i run a minecraft server and was trying to access it and they were like "ok fine, dont do it here though."
fluid elm
cmd is blocked so i had to go download vscode to use powershell
mental meadow
I had a similar issue simple, and now I maintain the school homepage for the last 5 years lol
potent fossil
smh
still cosmos
cmd is blocked so i had to go download vscode to use powershell
whats next, block start menu?
fluid elm
at least i didnt "install" it so its not agianst the rules
cedar spade
I think my school gave up monitoring and filtering by the time I left, since people constantly got called in for doing history homework and HSTS broke half the internet anyway
potent fossil
lul
waxen panther
everyone in my school just played "i wanna be the boshy" or whatever it was called
fluid elm
is there a web service to do that thats generally safe?
waxen panther
they'd fix a way of running it and the leet 13 year old hackers found other ways
golden gust
We just use to play cat and mouse with game sites
And then there was the time I brought a fork bomb in on a usb drive and was like "wanna try this fun game"
fluid elm
and I basically just told them i run a minecraft server and was trying to access...
id just go and say "what makes you think im hacking"
potent fossil
press F for the poor school thin client
cedar spade
We could just run arbitrary programs on our PCs, there were few limits
fluid elm
also USB is blocked here meh
cedar spade
Probably because they taught Small Basic which built unsigned exes
golden gust
Which, you know..
potent fossil
yeah Oski I mean, there were loads I could say to them but i really didn't feel like sitting in the office with a bunch of boomers all day
so i just cooperated and left
fluid elm
also im @visual egret
potent fossil
i had very short days at that point, and was able to go home round lunch time at end of 3rd hour
i know
fluid elm
yeah you just said oski so i got a bit confused lol
potent fossil
...the current name you are using is Oski
fluid elm
yeah i guess
potent fossil
I call people by what name they're using
waxen panther
yeah i guess
cedar spade
hello simple!...
golden gust
/nick
potent fossil
hello MD (not that one)....
golden gust
/nickname
waxen panther
zzzCat (Do not ping) hello .
golden gust
Mfw
cedar spade
/nickymcnameface
waxen panther
💭
cedar spade
🎈
waxen panther
🎈 🎯
cedar spade
it's 📌, get it right
fluid elm
does anyone know a web SSH client that wont store my data
nvm, this looks okay https://github.com/huashengdun/webssh
worn ember
Cmd
fluid elm
cmd blocked
and ssh protocol is blocked here
https://sshwifty.herokuapp.com/ okay this one actully works 🙂
void void
Btw I will be kinda absent for the next 8 days (it's festivity) so ping me if you need me ty.
potent fossil
that was awesome, disk with /home on it crashed, whole OS died, booted into emergency mode
that drive is really going
fluid elm
have fun lol
void void
Thank you.
fluid elm
alright, it runs, finally works!
potent fossil
lol
next frost
still cosmos
https://discord.com/channels/289587909051416579/289616803041116160/7865551916546...
i was about to comment "that would defeat the purpose of the warning" but Cat beated me
still cosmos
Cat also loves rejecting friendship requests
limber knotBOT
brocc dum
worn ember
Cat is on my friend list. Couldn't be me cx
waxen panther
:(((
worn ember
potent fossil
well what can you say, ded is from a country without a properly functioning government. he only has rights because no one has taken them away yet
meager tusk
Proxi 
potent fossil
worn ember
well what can you say, ded is from a country without a properly functioning gove...
#politics thank you 
ashen cliff
woven otter
worn ember
duck get out
heady spear
@mental meadow uwu rawr XD
still cosmos
you said that he's a meanie and laughed at it...
worn ember
laughing the pain away
mental meadow
<@!293481709687537665> uwu rawr XD
rawr :3
austere ivy
It's still returned in your user object, Mojang/Microsoft/Minecraft/whoever just...
FREAKIN POG THANK YOU where do I get that
Just read your later messages thaaank you
limber knotBOT
(tehbrian sucks)
still cosmos
Proxi is a bully now
limber knotBOT
😎
austere ivy
smh imagine using orc
irc*
proxi why choose to suffer thyself?
ha I kid I just have no good response to what you said, ok bye
limber knotBOT
irc is lame
untold copper
laughing the pain away
yessss
worn ember
ye
olive marlin
Does it ping me on IRC each time I say something?
worn ember
irc is literally worse than msn back in the early 2000's
olive marlin
Hmm, it doesn't.
worn ember
prof: u suk
olive marlin
Then how do I get so many pings?
ded: you suck more
I kinda understand IRC for some use cases.
I don't need to join new Discord just to post a question in help channel.
golden gust
There is some magic to prevent names themselves pinging with a magical character
mentions, etc, will still ping
worn ember
@olive marlin get pinged twice noob
olive marlin
And I definitely prefer it over Gitter and other stuff where I need to make an account to use.
worn ember
anything that doesnt require you to register is easily botable tho
then again, discord gets botted all the time
olive marlin
I mean, I need to register for IRC.
But most communities have freenode channel.
So I don't have to register for each separate community all using different communicators.
golden gust
thing is that discord doesn't require registration to chat in most places
and most accounts used for botting are generally like a year or a few old
limber knotBOT
DED: U suk
olive marlin
Yeah.
worn ember
no
golden gust
He's not wrong, you know
worn ember
good thing i dont value your opinion 😉
heady spear
cat should spend more time learning english and less time bullying dark
heady spear
ok
golden gust
within the bounds of the new rules? yes
paper 2.0 rules limit me so much in here, it's sad ;-;
olive marlin
Paper 3.0 wen? We need exceptions to people who can be bullied.
golden gust
PLZ
still cosmos
^^^^
worn ember
just yeet the rules
heady spear
Hahah cat get rekt nooblet
still cosmos
rood
austere ivy
update on the washer situation: it has been a month since we called sears. according to one representative, we're getting a new washer. according to another, they found the part. according to another, we're unfortunately not going to be able to be compensated. according to another, nothing on our file has even been updated and literally nothing has happened. my family is looking into an lg frontloader.
what I do know?
this is well deserved
void void
What plugins could I use to do these 2 things: 1) I have say a woodcutting skill and the quality of the drop (very cheap, crude, common, uncommon, rare, epic, legendary, mythical), the amount of wood you get and it's quality depends on the quality of the axe and the amount of skill you have with a colored border around the items to indicate rarity . Some jewelry would improve the skill or grant it. At worse, different qualities could be premade in mmoitems --- 2) Have specific be after to drop such an axe with a loot tables similar to world of warcraft (ie: each item has an odd out of 10M), an enemy faction lumberman NPC could have says 68191 odds out of 10M to drop an uncommon axe for example. I'm trying to figure out why it seems only premium plugins can do part of that
austere ivy
What plugins could I use to do these 2 things: 1) I have say a woodcutting skill...
code it yourself, that sounds the easiest thing to do rather than look for some obscure and unique plugin
golden gust
trick for getting consistent support is to bitch on their social media page
still cosmos
lmao
austere ivy
hm? really? I'll look into that, thanks
golden gust
the media support teams generally have good calls into higher up support, who are generally capable of figuring out wtf is going on, especially when you've had a dozen ages bouncing you around
austere ivy
why did they stop at around sep 2019
inb4 sears cares team has been dissolved to cut costs lmao
golden gust
see the tweets and replies tab
austere ivy
ah, december 7th! promising!
true canyon
They stopped caring three days ago
mental meadow
mh. buffer i/o errors on SD cards are usually not a good sign, right?
still cosmos
im not entirely sure what u mean but yes
golden gust
generally means that the SD card is dead
mental meadow
yeah, i was able to save most of the files but some seem lost. That would also explain why chkdsk found nothing wrong, hardware failure not software
still cosmos
once again proves that chkdsk sucks
golden gust
chkdsk only verifies the FAT, basically
mental meadow
chkdsk works way better with NTFS
golden gust
marginally better
lost data is lost data
NTFS just has better recovery features built in, last I recall, ntfs is journaled, for ex
mental meadow
apparently it seems to only affect a few pictures and only in one specific folder, maybe I can still safe the rest
golden gust
use photorec or something
void void
mh. buffer i/o errors on SD cards are usually not a good sign, right?
it's dead
golden gust
dd a copy of the sd card to your machine so you have a "living" copy of it
might need ddrescue, actually
mental meadow
yeah dd didn't work
golden gust
grab the image off the disk and run a recovery tool on it, any data gone is gone however
mental meadow
that's where I got the buffer I/O errors from 😄
mental meadow
I did
golden gust
did you try a rubber?
mental meadow
?
still cosmos
wut
void void
yeah that could help
mental meadow
mh
golden gust
Get your heads out of the gutter you freaks
mental meadow
I could try, but I doubt
still cosmos
Get your heads out of the gutter you freaks
i actually didnt get it but ok
mental meadow
Also, it's microSD, so everything is really smaaaaall
austere ivy
Nowadays, do you need to state wildcard permissions in plugin.yml or do most permission plugins handle that?
austere ivy
I don't really care that much about supporting people using PermissionsEx lol
golden gust
wildcard perms do not exist
void void
:^)
golden gust
So, by bukkit standards, you need .* if you wanna provide .* perms
still cosmos
sadly luckperms is not installed on 100% of servers on this planet
golden gust
But, plugins will generally override that with their own behavior, so, good luck
austere ivy
But by.. modern standards?
mental meadow
BungeePerms also works with that :3
austere ivy
Bukkit standards are dum then >:I
austere ivy
The permission checker should be handling wildcards
oh well ok
How does Sponge handle it, by chance?
golden gust
They don't handle perms
austere ivy
squints MMmmhm.
golden gust
They have API for it and such, but, don't recall them having a built-in perm system
still cosmos
Really, people relying on wildcards should be shot, imho
do you really expect me to grant myself permissions 1 by 1 when its a test server /s
golden gust
austere ivy
GriefPrevention, because GP uses the permission system as a data store!
yeah they do do that lol I never thought about that
golden gust
the sponge section generally applies to bukkit too when you have a perm plugin installed
many perm plugins just override superperms completely with their own impl
slim nymph
cyberpunk sure opens the game strong to offend the prudish in the char select screen lol
is nudity allowed on youtube/nudity if its a game? Wonder what all the livestreamers did
quasi valley
you can disable that
slim nymph
well it doesnt exactly warn you 😛
nova stone
I need help
mental meadow
me too
slim nymph
it starts with covering, but soon as you go down the char creater sliders, lets take your top off to adjust breast size, then once you go down to genitalia, lets take bottom off and now your full frontal
nova stone
My chunks are loading wayyyyy tooo slow and I do not know how to fix it
mental meadow
nova stone
Sorry
quasi valley
yeahh... I'd hope most streamers go there anyways, since there have at least been a few announcements/info that they should disable copyrighted music in the settings as well
limber knotBOT
i have wasted an hour or two trying to figure out why an endpoint returned nothing, and it turns out it was just erring cause <LinkedMultiValueMap> is (obviously) not a valid document name and I hadn't noticed that was happening
slim nymph
ah true
the music on the title screen was bad ass
i havent finished creating char as i was playing immortals, and only jumped over due to my game bugging on immortals pissed me off i lost some save progress, but ended up jumping back to immortals
mental meadow
ddrescue is at least not crashing immediately, thx cat
golden gust
yea, ddrescue just ignores disk errors
will give you a nice image to run photorec over
quasi valley
the music on the title screen was bad ass
oh yeah it's great haha
I've played ~2 hours, started with the corp line
limber knotBOT
knenwald ;w;
quasi valley
proximsy 
limber knotBOT
wha
golden gust
wha wha, in the...
mental meadow
wha!
still cosmos
Everyone: I fear nothing. But that man
knenytv
He scares confuses me
limber knotBOT
mental meadow
kneny u know i made that bc ilu
mental meadow
michael!!! uwu
twin lagoon
uwu
slim nymph
I've played ~2 hours, started with the corp line
apparently thats the popular one lol
i think i selected street kid
slim nymph
debated nomad though, feels rebelish!
quasi valley
I'll do that second, but I don't like running around the badlands with basically nothing around me (which it looked like at least)
twin lagoon
how's the game so far @quasi valley
quasi valley
looks hot
twin lagoon
any bugs?
quasi valley
didn't encounter any
slim nymph
apparently runs bad (performance) on old gen consoles though lol
good thing im next gen 😉
quasi valley
just ""poor"" performance with """only"""" about 60 fps
slim nymph
i was seeing ps4 at 15 fps
quasi valley
lmao
quasi valley
pc masterrace
quasi valley
I have my good old pc from 2015 I think with a 980 ti
the card should still hold up for a good few years
austere ivy
thoughts on brackets without any statement/declaration/whatever before it as a way to increase scope?
still cosmos
what
slim nymph
but its good for them to target prev gen though, console games can simply be done like PC games, make features configurable by build, target diff texture resolutions, etc
austere ivy
e.g. ```java
{
String myString = "this is different"
}
{
String myString = "from this"
}
just the devs need to get better at it
golden gust
generally just clutters code and makes maintainability more of a hell when you need to refactor that stuff
still cosmos
e.g. ```java
{
String myString = "this is different"
}
{
String myString = "...
but whats the point
austere ivy
I'm seeing it wildly used in this plugin I'm forking and I'm wondering (for learning purposes) if it's good/bad design
slim nymph
oh lol
golden gust
❤️
slim nymph
your statement blended into mine perfectly 😛
worn ember
thats why you use reply 
spiral robin
worn ember
gfdi? god fucking damn it?
golden gust
yes
worn ember
lol alright then
still cosmos
gfdi? god fucking damn it?
did you google that or just assumed
golden gust
knowing DED, probs googled
I don't generally attribute DED to brains, research and good guessing
no offence, bud
worn ember
i figured that one out on my own actually
slim nymph
cat its my understanding the UE engine is cross platform so they build once and target ps/xb/pc all in one
and custom engines are prob just the same just their own logic
still cosmos
UE engine
unreal engine engine
slim nymph
lol
true canyon
UnrEal Engine
worn ember
its big brain time
golden gust
well, gag is on stuff like the ps3 with their magical chips which made backwards compat unviable
slim nymph
i broke into caffeine
worn ember
bad aikar
still cosmos
that emote name tho
slim nymph
i was having fun on immortals 😛
golden gust
I woke up with tea, boiled in the microwave because having a kettle is overrated
slim nymph
then i forgot to put my roast on
worn ember
your only job should be to merge paper pr's. all day every day
slim nymph
so had to start the 10hr roast at 3:30am
still cosmos
boiled in the microwave
cat are you ok
golden gust
desperate times call for desperate measures
worn ember
Note to self: working on paper makes you say dum dum things
slim nymph
its not like microwaves vs kettle changes the chemistry of water, its still water
waters very easy to microwave
worn ember
but radiationnn!!!
slim nymph
still cosmos
but radiationnn!!!
you, yourself, emit radiation ||/s||
still cosmos
it burns stuff faster
like a blast furnace/smoker? cool
worn ember
yes i love cooking in a blast furnace
still cosmos
episode 1 of stupid puns: i mean its a blast cooking it
slim nymph
is that another way of saying an oven that comes with the standard fan
golden gust
fan ovens are so annoying, like, yea, they cook faster but they do it in such an inconsistent way that cooking with it is literally ass
fan assisted
slim nymph
oh fan inside of it to blow heat?
worn ember
what does the fan do?
golden gust
yea
worn ember
other than spin
slim nymph
but why, not sure how fan helps there
worn ember
mine has one too lol, seems normal
golden gust
it blows the heat around so it spreads faster and cooks faster
electric ovens in general take just as long as a standard gas oven, even if they take 10 years to heat up sometimes
worn ember
we broke our microwave buttons the other day, so my dad took the thing apart yoinked the button from another setting we dont use and put that one in, ez pz
golden gust
fan assisted basically heats up the thing super fast and cooks in like 1/2 - 3/4ths of the time
worn ember
who needs new microwaves anyway
golden gust
been there done that 😄
you're not a pro until you're touching wires together to do stuff
worn ember
we had one issue tho, we already done that 3 times now, so we dont have any spare buttons anymore lmao
i think he just glued it back together or something
having an industrial electrician as a dad is quite handy tbh
golden gust
I was training as a switch board manf and techy, it's fun
Fuck doing electircal work at home
But, like, if something needs fixing, there is always a way, as stupid as it may seem
desert frost
this is the way of the programmer 😂
golden gust
I mean, my mouse currently works due to the power of lighter fluid
worn ember
if you change anything about your circuits you need to have it revalidated tho
golden gust
had to pour some lighter fluid in the switches to clean them out so it would work again
worn ember
desert frost
lighter fluid? lmao
golden gust
it's a good solvent
worn ember
do you not have a compressor?
desert frost
I always use IPA for things like that
golden gust
I mean, I'd already pulled the switch apart once, just figured it needed cleaning again, and lighter fluid is good at cleaning
IPA, lighter fluid, basically acts the same
desert frost
huh. didn't know lighter fluid functions as a solvent
golden gust
tastes good too
desert frost
👀
worn ember
shouldve set it on fire after for max effect
heady spear
lighter fluid is often just butane
golden gust
it's a HP
heady spear
an alcohol
golden gust
it will do that on its own at some point
worn ember
isnt that just boole algebra?
desert frost
hypergeometric summation something or the other
still cosmos
Are you slowly becoming Technoblade?
upper flicker
tasty
still cosmos
https://giphy.com/gifs/teeth-NwIjtWI08MB1K
please delete
sharp tree
@upper flicker Seems like the mc works now fine in the VNC, but the player movement is a bit laggy to other players, and the cursor is so broken :D
worn ember
are we racist against brits now? @unkempt drift @still cosmos ?
upper flicker
yes VNC is not a like a low latency proto
upper flicker
its not ideal for that sort of thing, itll let you afk and maybe auto farm or something
but you wont be pvp or even pve with it likely
heady spear
let DED post selfies if he want to
sharp tree
Yeah I use it for afk
heady spear
you're all bullies
upper flicker
you could try nvidia's streaming thing if you have an nvidia gpu
austere ivy
alright fine fine
upper flicker
idk if it works with MC but its pretty good as far as that goes
sharp tree
I mean the cursor in the minecraft is so bad with the VNC
I cant control the cursor at all
I mean the direction im looking at
worn ember
why are you so keen on playing minecraft remote anyway
sharp tree
I dont play minecraft remote
slim nymph
gotta get their fix
unkempt drift
Gotta keep that grind on at work
golden gust
VNC doesn't have support to hook the mouse pointer afaik
slim nymph
oh i just installed mc on work comp back in the days
golden gust
#NoMachineMasterRace
void void
my eyes! 
golden gust
even no machine might suck there tbh, but, does handle latency better than vnc
void void
github also added dark mode btw
worn ember
hey guys github added dark mode
desert frost
hey guys github added dark mode
upper flicker
we ring a bell
desert frost
if you didn't know already, discord added dark mode
olive garden
hey we have free private repos on github
upper flicker
its basically been ringing non stop
worn ember
take a shot every time someone says it
desert frost
pro tip: dark mode
slim nymph
something seems wrong with your system @void void
quasi valley
did you know MS bought GH???!?!?!?
slim nymph
our logo is transparent
void void
that doesn't look like the official dark theme
desert frost
switching to dark mode immediately makes you 200% better at programming
upper flicker
@slim nymph dId yOu kNoW yOU cAN DrAg aNd DrOP?
void void
are you using dark reader?
slim nymph
no, user style
unkempt drift
Official dark mode is like worse than all other user-created dark modes
worn ember
did you know that too much light makes it dark?
unkempt drift
Big fan of GitHub-Dark
void void
yeah i mean github has now built in support. Maybe it would help making the borders transparent?
quasi valley
it is, but GitHub
void void
weird
worn ember
transparent pistons in minecraft wen?
upper flicker
yeah thats github doing that sadly
void void
void void
yeah thats github doing that sadly
rip
unkempt drift
Maybe they didn’t want people saying their icon doesn’t look good in both light and dark mode?
unkempt drift
Gotta add a light mode and dark mode icon
slim nymph
but i have dark mode on and its not doing it, unless my user style is overriding the border
must be, the border is a variable
void void
kinda hit or miss yeah
slim nymph
just use the github dark user style, its better anyways
worn ember
no
worn ember
yeah i get that a lot
golden gust
?kick @rancid cypress spam
olive garden
this is cat's banhammer
leaden oxideBOT
BuffaCake#8291 was kicked | spam
olive garden
well, I was wrong
warm anchor
Kids and their spam
worn ember
upper flicker
well, at least Cydia isnt doing it for hypocritical reasons
vernal moth
Lmao kangaroooooo on that commit
upper flicker
will be interesting to see what comes of those
cunning raft
yeah this is def a better case than epic's
vernal moth
The more pressure the better
cunning raft
but still they're trying to define a monopoly in a specifically small, controlled market
upper flicker
be interesting to see what standing they argue they have
cunning raft
yeah
upper flicker
US law permits users to modify the software on their own devices, but it doesnt guarantee the manufacturer has to support it
cunning raft
right, they only thing i see realistically changing is their signing limit
meaning apps don't need to be resigned every 7 days
upper flicker
tbh I dont expect this to go the way most people want
especially given the age of most judges
cunning raft
yeah there's no way in hell you're going to see an epic games or cydia on the app store
stiff yarrow
@spare venture sushi ghost is pretty fantastic, I knew little about it going in but it’s basically like roleplaying as a samurai in a beautiful Japanese landscape while also being able to do cool stuff from samurai movies like standoffs (not sure how to describe it) it’s really enjoyable so far
Isn’t apple currently winning the right to repair lawsuits which is just depressing
cunning raft
pretty sure
upper flicker
at least there is real pressure there to get laws changed and passed
not seeing quite the same on the software front
cunning raft
don't think we should see anything on the software front tbh
upper flicker
there is a valid argument to be made that people are buying into this closed ecosystem specifically because its closed, they want it closed, and it's apples product to make closed
monopolies are small carve out that would allow the government to get involved
but its not like a guarantee
cunning raft
yeah
that's why epic's suit shouldn't get passed
well "passed"
you know what i mean
would virtually say that apple is forced to work with people the court says they have to and cannot enforce right to terminate clauses
golden gust
The thing is that I can't really argue it as a monoply, it's a walled off platform, nintendo doesn't allow you to run unauthorized software, nor does sony, etc; MS allows it on their console, but, in doing so you can't play retail games, etc
cunning raft
haven't read Cydia's lawsuit yet but i'm afraid of what they're grounds are
upper flicker
yeah I dont know that epic will get what it wants since its tried to force the issue with a contract issue
inventing standing for yourself isnt usually appreciated
cunning raft
yeah the judges for their injunctions were all pretty pissed off at epic
upper flicker
courts dont like it when you have to go a -> b -> c -> d -> e -> f -> and thats why its an issue
stiff yarrow
yeah the judges for their injunctions were all pretty pissed off at epic
Are you guys watching court recordings or something
upper flicker
there were reporters who were present in the meetings
cunning raft
Are you guys watching court recordings or something
there are transcriptions along with totally legal recordings
upper flicker
and sometimes the spicy even makes it into the actual rulings and injunctions textually
those are usually fun
warm anchor
https://giphy.com/gifs/spam-PzV2oB0r8GvtK
this is cursed
stiff yarrow
There’s no official ps5 patch but the game had a 4k mode and it runs great constant 60 FPS
On PS4 pro this mode did not run well is my understanding
Yeah don’t get cyber punk till the next gen patches deploy
Oh but ghost of sushi is open world but it’s done well
So far even the side quests feel really enjoyable
I think I’m liking it more than spider man so far
unreal quarry
visual egret
?
unreal quarry
anytime i see someone mentions a game other than minecraft i'm obligated to post that meme
golden gust
nou
waxen panther
ur dumb
golden gust
still cosmos
and people thought Cat was bad at grammar
golden gust
me fail english? That's unpossible
still cosmos
(well its not the same thing but whatever)
golden gust
yes, yes I do
still cosmos
now everyone knows that brocc is dumb
unreal quarry
minecraft is DUMB
blasphemy!
golden gust
hardly front page news
waxen panther
now everyone knows that brocc is dumb
everyone thought i was a genius before you're right
unreal quarry
your mom doesnt count
still cosmos
everyone thought i was a genius before you're right
you weren't dumb enough to misspell "dumb" 5 times in a row before
lyric patio
time to see what is going on in papermc general
waxen panther
it's a hard word
cunning raft
rust pfp
waxen panther
weird man with weird eyebrows pfp
lyric patio
wait i want vegtebal role
still cosmos
nah jroy's pfp is awesome
lyric patio
no fair :l
waxen panther
well i am a broccoli
left swift
Broccolai doesn't have eyebrows
left swift
Still no eyebrows lel
still cosmos
well i am a broccoli
ew
people say broccoli is bad irl, but broccoli is bad in discord too
left swift
! \ / \ / \ / !
You should read the server rules
lyric patio
lmao
left swift
Block list grows
lyric patio
oh no he blocked me
still cosmos
now for everyone to block you and the you will be sad and distraught
wide chasm
The fuck, Minecraft connected me to two servers at the same time
lyric patio
that happened to me yesterday lmao
still cosmos
m u l t i t a s k i n g
lyric patio
i had the chat from one but was physically in another
wide chasm
Yeah I have the same here
wide chasm
I'm in my test server world, but the tab and chat are from the other server
lyric patio
lol
wide chasm
I also have noclip even though I'm in creative
lyric patio
o_o
visual egret
im making a dashboard thing for my servers, this is kinda the only thing i need, right?
wide chasm
Let me check the bug tracker to see if there's already a bug report made about this
unreal quarry
The fuck, Minecraft connected me to two servers at the same time
i seen a ticket on that. its extremely rare, but highly reproducible
lyric patio
lol
wide chasm
Yeah, found the bug report
Let me put my information on there as well, see if it helps or smth
I also have the client debug screen info, because I was gonna do testing
iron zephyr
I have a little bit of budget left for the end of the year - best premium must-have plugins? Especially interested in minigame plugins
visual egret
just write your own 