What’s your guys’ opinion on Uncle Bob
#general
void void
ancient bolt
I'm just saying if you want to read a book and you're looking for a topic, that's what I suggest
golden gust
I had some lectures on that, but, erm... I needed youtube as the lecturer was just hardly understandable and too dull to keep you captivated in, so, erm...
I just worked on paper
wide chasm
"Introduction to Algorithms" by T. H. Cormen, C. E. Leiserson, R. L. Rivest and C. Stein is a good book for data structures and algorithms if you want one.
I currently have the third edition, but I'm guessing any edition would be sufficient enough.
austere ivy
head first design patterns and effective Java are nice
effective java really is just a must imo though
warm anchor
What’s wrong with her neck
ancient bolt
data structures is important in general. if you need a sorted map and you use Java's TreeMap and the javadocs say it's a red black tree, what does that mean? What are the implications of that vs something like a ConcurrentSkipListMap. They are important topics. It can also teach you why java's HashSet is so slow and how easy it is to write a more efficient implementation lol
warm anchor
Maybe her head was straight on first edition. They just gradually moving it counterclockwise
worn ember
heh
unreal quarry
where are her shoes?
void void
😂
golden gust
billy, this is 2020
worn ember
white socks and sandals
golden gust
We don't need material goods like shoes
upper flicker
that is just the weirdest cover art
golden gust
be one with the earth
ancient bolt
honestly why do programming books have cover art at all
void void
Marketing
upper flicker
thats why the other o'reilly books where its just a low detail sketch of a random animal are best
and a meme lol
wide chasm
The only important data structure I can think of the book I mentioned doesn't cover is AVL trees
worn ember
head first
wide chasm
Red black trees are covered though
worn ember
ancient bolt
red black trees are probably the more important of the two...but it's odd to do one and not the other
wide chasm
It has exercises of AVL trees, but, like if you can't figure out those (or just don't do exercises at all) you won't get to know AVL trees
The uni course on the other hand did do AVL trees, but not red black trees, so...
worn ember
bruh windows still hasnt fixed that issue that if your screens go into sleep mode nightlight gets disabled when they wake up 
ancient bolt
but with directed vs non-directed graphs and the various methods of walking the graph, that's a lot of material
worn ember
i never understood any of those
wide chasm
Which is why you spend 160 hours on it
ancient bolt
the most interesting algorithm they taught that I don't really remember at all is fuzzy search in a non-sorted string
vernal moth
I wrote my practical exam for my apprenticeship for a graph problem
ancient bolt
I remember going "neat" and then promptly forgot about it because I know every stdlib in existence will have indexOf and contains functions
golden gust
I think that's part of the horror of modern programming
vernal moth
It's still good to know how stuff works behind the curtain
peak dirge
my data structures course covered binary search trees and we had an assignment to evaluate the performance of different tree implementations
vernal moth
So you know what to use then
golden gust
is that, yea, it's nice to have all these pretty impls
wide chasm
For searching in a string you can use the knuth-morris-prath algorithm if you're feeling like making a prefix tree
golden gust
I can create a HashSet and know it's gonna be faster than an array
vernal moth
Ah I remember that
peak dirge
I believe I was the only student who managed to successfully implement an AVL tree and I don't even know how
golden gust
Part of the joy is jumping into different impls and seeing how they work
ancient bolt
I love reading the jdk's source code cause I'm a fucking nerd
vernal moth
I had to impl half of the java collection lib manually
golden gust
I remember in paper we had some fastutil collection that was actually killing us as every modification it did resulted in an array copy
ancient bolt
yeah you gotta understand the performance characteristics of the data structure you're using, can't just pick one because it's "fast" and call it a day
vernal moth
Array list, linked list, stack, queue, hash map/set, all dis shit
haughty bear
about gitlab CI, do the files from a previous stage carry to the next? I want to build my jar in a build job then use the results from that in a pages job
ancient bolt
back to trees for example, AVL trees are faster for reading, but red black trees are faster for insertions, so depending on your needs one vs the other might be preferred
stiff yarrow
that kind of stuff is fun to do in educational projects
vernal moth
Those were basically the only classes that were worth it
wide chasm
I've only ever implemented a stack and an linked list myself, because for some reason implementing data structures was not part of the data structure and algorithms course
When having to do stuff in C or so for uni I just use linked lists for everything, because it's easy to implement and the TA won't complain either way
ancient bolt
sounds like a shit CS course if they are forcing you to fallback to the objectively worse list impl
rather than allowing you to use a standard collection
wide chasm
I mean, last time I implemented it was actually the optimal choice
twin lagoon
about gitlab CI, do the files from a previous stage carry to the next? I want to...
you can use caches
golden gust
Sounds like it was just a "grasp the concept of how stuff actually works"
ancient bolt
it's rarely the optimal choice
golden gust
Most of the courses for CS are too theoretical imho
Like, I hardly remember much about O notation and all that
ancient bolt
linked lists are very slow in almost all aspects because they have no cache locality
wide chasm
But if the course is something completely unrelated to data structure and I have a deadline, they won't care about the data structure used.
golden gust
But, that's basically like 50% of the course
haughty bear
you can use caches
Don’t use caching for passing artifacts between stages, as it is designed to store runtime dependencies needed to compile the project:
ancient bolt
and due to exponential resizing of arrays, insertions in array-backed lists aren't that much slower on average vs linkedlist
peak dirge
Linked lists are rarely a good data structure choice, unless you are writing concurrent data structures, in which case they are pretty much your only sane choice.
twin lagoon
perfect
haughty bear
but I have no clue on the terminology here
wide chasm
I would need to compare the iteration speed of linked list versus an array based solution against the time for prepending since all I did was prepend and iterate.
And for array list that would imply shifting everything over constantly.
haughty bear
so in
build:
...
pages:
...
build and pages are 2 separate stages?
twin lagoon
yes
haughty bear
that's what i thought, so it looks like I need to use artifacts then
wide chasm
I could do that, but, I had a deadline
twin lagoon
you're creating a build & pages stage in a pipeline that gets triggered by a ci job
wide chasm
Part of the problem was also that the assignment was re-implementing malloc, realloc, calloc, etc. so for making a good array based solution, I would need realloc, which I needed to implement myself, so, yeah...
wide chasm
Let's say I don't trust my implementation of those that much
haughty bear
okay, do you know how to use artifacts between stages then?
wide chasm
And allocating a struct is still easy enough with sbrk
worn ember
nurds
wide chasm
I missed points for overhead, but whatever
I did implement a stack for my IJVM impl. last year because the TA wanted that, so that was the other custom data structure impl.
twin lagoon
k
mossy vessel
haughty bear
for gitlab CI, is it possible to cache files that are downloaded on maven install for the first time?
visual egret
my keyboard is finally arriving dec 3 :)
warm anchor
How did you type that 
spiral robin
potent fossil
@haughty bear https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/ci/caching/
visual egret
How did you type that <:gun_pepe:766089221403312128>
did it have an "s"? in that sentence
also copy paste lol
warm anchor
/s
potent fossil
what does source 2 simp mean
visual egret
i simp for source 2
upper flicker
you simp for the game engine
visual egret
yes
upper flicker
people are weird
visual egret
is it better now?
worn ember
warm anchor
I still use that
worn ember
i dont have it
waxen panther
eternity is the only cute dota player in the world
vernal moth
I hate ppl
Some idiot just pulled over from the left lane into my
Like, he was faster than me, overtook me, and then pulled into me
Luckly I got leet gamer reflexes so nothing happened
worn ember
oops
warm anchor
lol
stiff yarrow
reminds me that I want to install dash cams but keep putting it off
visual egret
im sure it was an accident ded
worn ember
im the secret nick switcher
vernal moth
Dash cam wouldn't have caught it I guess
visual egret
whatever mods can have fun changing my name
potent fossil
'dash' cam, if you get those you should not just have 1 otherwise it doesnt tell the whole story. You need a trunk cam and a dash cam at least, and depending on which way you drive another cam is good to have facing the other direction of traffic
visual egret
who uses dash cams?
potent fossil
smart people
visual egret
just become google maps car
vernal moth
You don't really need them here, ppl behave
visual egret
until they dont...
vernal moth
And if something goes wrong insurance pays anyways
worn ember
yes mount a 360° cam on your roof
stiff yarrow
'dash' cam, if you get those you should not just have 1 otherwise it doesnt tell...
tis why I said *dash cams'
potent fossil
tis why I said *dash *cams*'
i missed your pluralization sweet prince i do apologize
stiff yarrow
in certain accidents a dash cam is your only legal excuse out of liability
worn ember
just say a rock got stuck under your pedal
visual egret
imagine using a dash cam just have a military drone fly above you at all times
worn ember
to authorize an airstrike when someone cuts you off
potent fossil
bomb has been planted
visual egret
did you just hear that?
potent fossil
ignore that, it was my CS GO game
potent fossil
and
vernal moth
*bomb has been planted*
I love how you have to read that in that voice
Even tho I don't play CS
visual egret
yeah
i always hear it like that
CS is pretty much the only action game i had so i played it for ages
potent fossil
I don't really play it either, I just know that voice very well
stiff yarrow
I love how you have to read that in *that* voice
this vaguely reminds me - some people don't have inner voices, some people can't visualize (aphantasia), some people can't imagine smells
my GF and brother both have aphantasia and it fascinates me endlessly
potent fossil
yeah people with that fuck me up
vernal moth
Can they even masturbate without porn?!
potent fossil
it's your own fault for being in here, child
visual egret
this is a bad example
stiff yarrow
if you talk to someone with aphantasia you can fully explain it and often they still won't think they have it, you have to really pry at them to get them to realize they are different
potent fossil
we talked like this years ago when we were all children and you were a wee lad oskar
god i've been in this community far too long
i can actually say that
well not as long as some but nearly 7 years on spigot
and was around before that on bukkit
visual egret
i first played MC 1.5 or 1.7 i dont remember the exact version but one of those when it was new
i was really young
def before 1.8
upper flicker
the lesson you can learn from everyone here is simply to get out while you can
potent fossil
if you talk to someone with aphantasia you can fully explain it and often they s...
one of the common questions I think is something to do with how they think and they answer how you'd expect, but they think entirely different to how most people do apparently
like with pictures or smth
visual egret
oh look someone changed my name back :)
potent fossil
instead of a voice
vernal moth
I mean, most ppl who are still really active either have a server or avoid the game
Demon does tooling, I do web shit for some dum reason
potent fossil
i don't really play mc lmao, i get on to run around for like 5 mins and then im over it again
vernal moth
You come for the game and stay for the ppl I guess
stiff yarrow
one of the common questions I think is something to do with how they think and t...
forgot to mention my mom has it and I had to explain it to her like 4 times before she realized she was different
potent fossil
stiff yarrow
I dodged such a bullet not getting that gene
potent fossil
slack 
vernal moth
(sold to salesforce for 28b)
potent fossil
goodbye slack!
visual egret
my computer is having a stroke
stiff yarrow
my brother after learning he had it, looked into it and there are exercises you can do if you have that condition which slowly let you begin to visualize simple shapes really poorly, takes a massive amount of mental concentration though
so glad I have a built in video editor with all the bells and whistles in my head
potent fossil
are you supposed to be able to just think of something and be able to smell it
vernal moth
Do those ppl dream?
stiff yarrow
@potent fossil for me it takes about 1-15 seconds to smell something if I think about it
potent fossil
yeah i cant just imagine a smell lmao
stiff yarrow
it takes less time for stuff I have smelled regularly
vernal moth
I only have that for like I really enjoy
I can summon the taste of a burger whenever I want
With the side effect that I get hungry as shit 😂 😂
potent fossil
yeah okay, i think of what it would smell like but i cant actually smell something that's not there
stiff yarrow
Do those ppl dream?
they do, and according to my brother its visual, but he can't see any of it when he wakes up or tries to recall it ofc
cosmic raft
Slack got sold, fun
oh dear
vernal moth
Interessting
upper flicker
and to salesforce at that
who have already announced they want to make one big platform
abandon ship
stiff yarrow
yeah okay, i *think* of what it would smell like but i cant actually smell somet...
for me it can take like 15~ seconds literally to get it going, but after I have imagined the first smell the others come usually within less than 5 seconds
vernal moth
I didn't even know that salesforce is so big, apperently they got an annual rev of over 20b
potent fossil
yeah as soon as i saw salesforce i knew slack is gone
yeah nossr i can't do that, i can think of what it might smell like but there's no conjuring the actual smell
vernal moth
Msft will really enjoy this
potent fossil
but i can picture stuff, so idk
void void
hey guys... could someone help me with a docker image?
potent fossil
.ask
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visual egret
everybody just loves errors
void void
well, i'm brand new to docker and need some help figuring it all out..
potent fossil
what's the problem??
twin lagoon
.ask
void void
i've got it all up and running docker atleast
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potent fossil
what is your actual question about it
stiff yarrow
I didn't even know that salesforce is so big, apperently they got an annual rev ...
fun fact: the current #1 yakuza family in terms of member count makes around 80 billion a year (USD)
visual egret
spiral robin
Help
waxen panther
Help
potent fossil
we have a command for that too oskar
waxen panther
hab problem
visual egret
we have a command for that too oskar
it wasnt hard to find since ive sent that to hundreds of people already :)
limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
Michael is too cute I'm overwhelmed
yes
potent fossil
yes
twin lagoon
you know what else is cute
waxen panther
u
spiral robin
twin lagoon
spiral robin
twin lagoon
waxen panther
HERMAN MOMENT
quasi valley
hjälp
waxen panther
twin lagoon
massive vibes
visual egret
MICHEAL GETS A CHAIR
potent fossil
what is that michael
twin lagoon
chair 
waxen panther
years of michael sitting on the floor
spiral robin
A 1400$ chair
waxen panther
all over now
spiral robin
Lmao
potent fossil
sigh
spiral robin
Oh only 1300?
waxen panther
its $1500 DUMBASS
twin lagoon
waxen panther
oh
spiral robin
Oh
waxen panther
spiral robin
Lmfao
waxen panther
twin lagoon
warm anchor
wow I'd sit on a Rtx 3090
warm anchor
wtf
spiral robin
Michael is rich
stiff yarrow
@potent fossil it gets even more fascinating when you delve into what people do in their own heads, some people can visualize but it looks dark or foggy (for me when I visualize its pretty clear), then you find out some people think only with pictures, and some people think only with words, and some people think with both, I think with both words and pictures
void void
alright, so i have the phyremaster/papermc image and i'm a bit confused on the next steps
waxen panther
minecraft money coming in BIG
spiral robin
Michael can I borrow 40$
warm anchor
xD
twin lagoon
BTC go brrrrr
spiral robin
Ah
potent fossil
<@!698668938661331045> it gets even more fascinating when you delve into what pe...
your mind is more high power than mine i think
visual egret
im getting a
java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: null
on this line:
int highestY = player.getLocation().toHighestLocation().getBlockY();
player is not null
void void
yup! there now
potent fossil
It's not a supported method of deploying paper, but, err, I can try to help I suppose. What's the exact issue?
golden gust
Provide the actual stack trace, also, that's not an NPE
void void
thing is i'm trying to migrate my old server over
let me go ahead and add in my old files
ones econd
i know im going to need to create a persistent volume somehow
golden gust
if you want to modify stuff in that server easily, probably easier to just mount to a folder on the disk somewhere
potent fossil
that said this is very poggers and im gonna use it too
visual egret
Full Stack Trace:
https://pastebin.com/85Uyz7yk
Function:
public boolean checkPlayerAboveGround(Player player) {
int blockY = player.getLocation().getBlockY();
int highestY = player.getLocation().toHighestLocation().getBlockY(); // error line here
int difference = highestY - blockY;
return difference < 10;
}
if I lie in bed with my eyes closed and concentrate hard enough I can literally see my minds eye as if I were actually seeing it with my eyes, most the time its not like this, I mean I can always visualize during the day but it never replaces what is in my field of vision
usually the way I can get it going is visualizing going through an empty city with various tall buildings like I'm flying through it in spectator mode in counterstrike or something, once it gets going its fascinating, it only ever lasts about 15~ seconds before I lose the super clear image (likely from concentration breaking) and I have to start over again, it usually feels like a lucid dream but I'm awake once its active, its completely visual though, I only discovered I could do this a few years ago by accident (had my eyes closed and was trying to see if I could find patterns in the noise)
potent fossil
Yeah I cannot do that I think you're superhuman nossr
Either that or I have mild aphantasia
visual egret
so like that weird thing when you press on your eyes too hard
twin lagoon
i'll take that purple haze
stiff yarrow
people who can visualize have varying levels of clarity and power over it
I can visualize effortlessly
vestal jasper
<@!698668938661331045> it gets even more fascinating when you delve into what pe...
I can visualize things and think with pictures, and even animations, but I can't see them vividly or consciously.
Like I can picture something but I can't see it
visual egret
^ same
stiff yarrow
I can imagine someones skin falling off them and see it in my head instantly, like I have a good video editor in my head
I can imagine my girlfrined wearing anything I want and see it, I can imagine her with different hair or colors of hair and see it
pretty much anything I can think of I can visualize instantly
golden gust
So, basically, the heightmap for getHighestBlockYAt is unsupported seemingly
stiff yarrow
I bought pillows for my couch by visualizing them on my couch in my head and it looked good in my head, and it looked pretty similar once I got them home
I was under the impression my level of visualization was on the normal side of things
visual egret
So, basically, the heightmap for getHighestBlockYAt is unsupported seemingly
what do i do then?
since it isnt depricated
stiff yarrow
my best friend says that when he visualizes its always dark, like he can't ever visualize anything brightly which is interesting
golden gust
use one of the other methods on World
void void
yeah, i practice visualization when going to bed
i used to do audio
music etc
i hear the most AMAZING samplings in my head right as i'm about to fall asleep
but im not musical and can never reproduce them
so i'm trying to switch to visuals
stiff yarrow
yeah I can listen to music in my head as well
void void
but do you hear new music?
stiff yarrow
yeah I can make new music too
void void
yeah, i hear really insanely good stuff (imho) things i've never heard before
but again the minute i try to remember it it stops
drives me fucking nuts
i feel like i'm a locked in Beethoven
vestal jasper
I can do music too but my memory is so bad I can't get my brain to recall an entire song
Without physically hearing the notes
void void
yeah, i'm like that too =/
stiff yarrow
I can recall the song but not correctly, I would say I get the instruments right but not the lyrics and I may be missing verses and such
void void
i only get like 10-15 seconds
my gf tho can do it really well
i can be like "can you sing etc.." and she'll just belt it out
stiff yarrow
I can play through a whole song, it will just be wrong and not true to the original
it will be pretty similar though
when I was a teenager I had great retention, nowadays my retention seems poor
waxen panther
i just vibe
stiff yarrow
I used to be able to recall word-for-word any conversation I heard that day, I could read a textbook page and recall it word for word too but only for about 5 or so minutes after reading it
my memory is pretty bad these days, I have to write a lot of stuff down
visual egret
:(
sand epoch
aaaaa
stiff yarrow
its low key depressing me but I'm trying to accept the fact that I'm just going to have more cognitive decline the more I age and I can't go back to being a youthful spring chicken
woven otter
my memory is pretty bad these days, I have to write a lot of stuff down
how old are you
stiff yarrow
32 in March
woven otter
oh not that bad then
woven otter
its low key depressing me but I'm trying to accept the fact that I'm just going ...
some people stay pretty sharp even when they are elders
stiff yarrow
my memory issues might be related to trauma though, my GF got incredibly sick and the whole thing was a nightmare, I would wake up screaming regularly, she was sick for like 10 of the last 12 months and only recently recovered, your brain tends to shutdown your memory to protect itself in trauma
my memory was fine before she got sick
woven otter
yeah, for example, depression makes memory worse and well cognitive functions in general
stiff yarrow
yeah I spent most of this year in a deep depression as my GF recovered
I got off anti-depressants somewhat recently a few months ago
void void
sudo docker run -p 25565:25565 -v /home/k/minecraft/mc-server/ phyremaster/papermc
is this right?
void void
yeah
potent fossil
sudo docker run -p 25565:25565 -v /home/k/minecraft/mc-server/:/papermc/ -it phyremaster/papermc
woven otter
yeah I spent most of this year in a deep depression as my GF recovered
I hope it's better now though
void void
what's up with the :/papermc/ ?
stiff yarrow
its better but I still feel pretty depressed, I have good days and bad days, I don't know when I'll shake it off
potent fossil
inside of the image, it expects the files to be in the folder /papermc/
-v takes host:container paths for what to map where
stiff yarrow
if my memory improves that'd be great because it certainly made my life easier when I could remember everything easily
for now I have formed habits of writing stuff down
twin lagoon
you shouldn't have to use sudo either
give your user the docker group and log back in
potent fossil
yeah that too
woven otter
if my memory improves that'd be great because it certainly made my life easier w...
Have you tried meditation?
potent fossil
and -it allows you to connect to the console and disconnect again
void void
hmmm it's hanging at loading terrain
timed out
io.netty.channel.abstractchannel$annotatedconnectexception:connection refused
void void
haven't installed a FW yet
this is a clean debian install
hmmmm
now it's showing the server offline
interesting
potent fossil
whats docker ps -a show
void void
[22:25:21 WARN]: java.lang.RuntimeException: Server attempted to load chunk saved with newer version of minecraft! 2584 > 2580
[22:25:21 WARN]: at net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R2.ChunkRegionLoader.loadChunk(ChunkRegionLoader.java:67)
[22:25:21 WARN]: at com.destroystokyo.paper.io.chunk.ChunkLoadTask.executeTask(ChunkLoadTask.java:114)
[22:25:21 WARN]: at com.destroystokyo.paper.io.chunk.ChunkLoadTask.run(ChunkLoadTask.java:39)
[22:25:21 WARN]: at com.destroystokyo.paper.io.QueueExecutorThread.pollTasks(QueueExecutorThread.java:105)
[22:25:21 WARN]: at com.destroystokyo.paper.io.QueueExecutorThread.run(QueueExecutorThread.java:38)
oh duh
potent fossil
yeah it upgraded your server lol
void void
i haven't installed java yet
potent fossil
docker installs java for you
void void
wait the docker container should have that
potent fossil
mhm
void void
so now i'm in >
i installed screen
i should be able to ctrl A D
but is there a better method?
potent fossil
you shouldnt be using screen for docker
potent fossil
docker attach <container name> and then you can press ctrl+p, ctrl+q
assuming you used docker attach, that...
if you did something else i dont know what to tell you
void void
i guess just command stop?
potent fossil
i guess lol
void void
i used -it
void void
yeah says status up to 5 mins
void void
right
potent fossil
ctrl+p, ctrl+q to leave again
void void
let's see if 16.4 works
hmm weird!! trying to attach back into the docker container only gives me a >
none of the papermc commands work like stop
potent fossil
i mean just a > is normal, you dont get console history
potent fossil
but stop should work, however with that error I think it crashed so you dont get server commands lol
your world never loaded
right? lol
void void
honestly, no freakin idea what happened
woven otter
do your cats ever lick you and then bite you out of nowhere
potent fossil
yes they're playing
potent fossil
your world crashed, it's just going to crash again if you don't fix that
woven otter
my cat bites or scratches me nearly everyday despite her being an adult cat now
potent fossil
https://github.com/Phyremaster/papermc-docker/blob/master/Dockerfile
the default MC_VERSION is 1.16.3, so if you are running 1.16.4 already...then the same issue is going to happen again
yes kbo
void void
sorry, never used docker before still getting the feel
fuck so confused right now lmao
potent fossil
lol
potent fossil
maybe you shouldn't be trying to run in docker if you don't understand it
the dockerfile downloads a jar for you...
void void
well, how else do you learn
potent fossil
you don't do it yourself
potent fossil
you should be downloading that dockerfile and editing it to your needs
I downloaded it and edited the build to 300 and version to 1.16.4
as auto updating is dangerous
void void
ahh
potent fossil
on GH it's running latest 1.16.3
so if your server was already updated, it's going to fail as the docker image downloaded latest 1.16.3 and tried to start the server
and the world failed to load
so you get no commands
void void
i dont believ it was already updated
potent fossil
because it crashed
potent fossil
well something happened to your world
you need to download the dockerfile and change its variables to be the proper server version
and run the dockerfile not his hosted image
potent fossil
yes
void void
trying again before i go through this
docker run -p 25565:25565 -v /home/k/minecraft/mc-server/:/papermc/ -it phyremaster/papermc
running this
server looks good go teh >
potent fossil
thats going to run the latest 1.16.3 build
void void
right
potent fossil
with 1 gig of ram and no java flags
potent fossil
no the issue was your world failed from the error that you sent
potent fossil
java.lang.RuntimeException: Server attempted to load chunk saved with newer version of minecraft! 2584 > 2580
ok...
potent fossil
it's 4 versions higher so
golden gust
Well, 84 is 1.16.4, so, you must have ran it at some point
golden gust
even if for a second, you're gonna have 1.16.4 chunks
void void
maybe my friend logged in
void void
yupp i guarantee that's what happened
i only play with 1 other person
i bet he logged into it
void void
ugh sorry im reading at same time and not thinking fully
yes you're right
duhh
but then no idea why it's saying that
looking up how to edit this file now
coarse lily
Good thing the launcher support Microsoft accounts and Mojang accounts!
potent fossil
either way the fix is to download the dockerfile and edit it to your needs. I would definitely change latest to a specific build number, the version to 1.16.4, the ram, and java flags
coarse lily
I've always wanted my Minecraft account to be tied up into the same bullshit as all my Xbox stuff.
potent fossil
and then it should be better...
void void
by downloading you mean pulling it into the docker app?
or physically downloading and editing it with nano or somethign?
potent fossil
https://github.com/Phyremaster/papermc-docker/blob/master/Dockerfile
download
edit with nano
docker build
change your docker run to be the new image instead of the phyremaster/papermc image
coarse lily
I think it's the moderation stuff.
upper flicker
its moderation and user features for the upcoming MS account linkage
coarse lily
Oh I just said "sure fine" and moved on. :)
I wanted to feel unsafe.
That's why I hug creepers.
warm anchor
https://imgur.com/a/0Jwi7rW
Don’t do it dude. It’s dangerous out here
How many kids will come here
Asking why their parental controlled account won’t allow them to play at X hour
Lmao
coarse lily
Oof
warm anchor
It’s a good feature for lazy parent
Assuming they even know how to config it properly anyway
limber knotBOT
I mean, kids can just download a mod and create a new profile to bypass it lol
warm anchor
Kids are stupid though
limber knotBOT
I highly doubt that the group of kids that are both stupid and who's parents are smart enough to figure out parental controls is big
warm anchor
Who do you think are clicking those FREE V bucks ads on YouTube
limber knotBOT
free money
don't worry, that mentality in some children can continue past childhood
just look at how many people are wasting time working for penies for some review apps like google etc.
*pennies 👀
stiff yarrow
@potent fossil forgot to mention this earlier but yeah I think you can have partial aphantasia, after I fully explained it to my mom and she finally understood she was different, she told me when trying to visualize my friend in her head all she could see was hair (friend has long hair), my brother completely lacks the ability to visualize anything but after doing some exercises he could begin to poorly visually basic shapes in his head with intense concentration and apparently over time it can get better (he found out about the exercises when googling this stuff) but he didn't think it was worth the effort, I don't think I ever checked with my other siblings if they have it but I probably should
I gave my brother the task of drawing a restaurant we both visited (this was back before COVID) and he drew a fairly accurate representation of where we were seated but not super detailed or anything, if I was given the same task I'd have drawn something quite similar but I'd be using my visual memory as a reference, so I'm not even sure what kind of limitations aphantasia would have on a person if any, especially since a good chunk of people have it but don't even know they do
void void
okay, just learning don't yell at me -- why do i have two docker volumes now?
i have no images, no containers,
volume ls outputs 2 local volumes
i inspect and they basically look empty
potent fossil
They persist after a container is removed
void void
yup! got it
potent fossil
<@!698668938661331045> forgot to mention this earlier but yeah I think you can h...
Interesting 🤔
void void
papermc files before i specified the location
potent fossil
I mean I can picture friends pretty accurately but if I was asked to draw something it'd just look like shit because I'm not an artist lmao
void void
so basically i need to change the "environmental variables"
instead of editing the image in nano i could just add on an -e it looks like
-e MC_VERSION="1.16.4"
coarse lily
Which version of Java do folks recommend for running the Minecraft client in Windows 10?
Whatever's latest?
twin lagoon
11
coarse lily
Not 8?
stiff yarrow
I mean I can picture friends pretty accurately but if I was asked to draw someth...
I can't draw well either, I think my own visualizations have some limitations but its really hard to describe them
void void
wait why no jenkins
noooooooooooo
how am i supposed to get latest dev build and complain about issues to the team unironically
wait let me go to help
bruh
oh im sorry you had to see 10 lines
dw
coarse lily
Walking someone through getting Minecraft running for the first time is interesting.
Especially when their shit keeps crashing.
potent fossil
I tried to introduce my fiancee to it and it did not work
coarse lily
Haha
coarse lily
I'm never trolling. :)
void void
hey guys -- weird question nwo that i've switched over to docker
my backup situation has gotten complicated
i was using borg and just passing the save-all flush, save-off commands through screen before i ran borg
now.. well that's complicated
how can i pass commands through docker?
void void
maybe this is a #docker question
limber knotBOT
where
limber knotBOT
there is no #docker here I think let's check
this is esper
you can use docker exec kbo
I actually haven't logged in to freenode for eons
just spigot and esper
limber knotBOT
freenode is weird
I don't really understand how they do channel opping and stuff, like after a while they'll deop you from a channel you started
void void
wait, so what's esper?
limber knotBOT
an IRC network
limber knotBOT
no
limber knotBOT
even if it isn't registered
void void
weird
limber knotBOT
can't remember if freenode had some sort of policy but maybe I'm mistaken
void void
i haven't created a channel in like 15 years
and i was always on efnet as a kid
so
freenodes really teh only one left maybe snoonet but sort if dead
limber knotBOT
I do remember there was this one weird guy tho who claimed all the # channels
void void
wait is esper a backup program?
limber knotBOT
espernet
void void
ive never been on that one
efnet,dalnet,freenode,snoo is the extent and some smaller boutique ones
any ideas on how to fix my backup probs?
limber knotBOT
don't use containers cuz MC is not stateless?
void void
you can set persistent volumes if that's what you mean
limber knotBOT
TF2 servers and the like make sense to containerize, I see no point doing so for MC
unless you have some sort of stateless setup e.g. minigame servers
we esper now apparently
void void
^^
limpid comet
in some cases it does make sense to containerize
waxen panther
double chests gotta be the worst thing in bukkit
limber knotBOT
wut u doin
doublechests r phun
can't even totally recall how I somehow supported them in my shop plugin
waxen panther
they r not fun
true canyon
Doesn't the conversation API silently block messages from other plugins? Surely that's worse.
zealous wedge
i think that's intentional
since it's a modal interaction
the bad part is it doesn't cache and replay
limber knotBOT
lul that api
true canyon
Yep! It's a design that works great if there's one plugin on the server.
limber knotBOT
tried it once, and ya, no
limpid comet
can someone show me an example of the conversation api
i hear mentionings of it all the time
true canyon
Nobody can, bluely, because nobody dares use it.
limpid comet
oh.
limpid comet
we should extend that mentality to the rest of the bukkit api
limber knotBOT
which is, cache question and see if answer is an integer or not lol
in next asyncplayerchatevent
from said player
formal turret
wow sounds like a simple solution!
tired heath
Hey, wanna see something funny from Austria?
true canyon
Hey, not all the API was bad. Just some super-early bad/rushed decisions held it down.
limber knotBOT
wut parts did u do/r u proud of
spiral robin
scoreboard 😍
waxen panther
no
spiral robin
brocc 😍
waxen panther
aber 😻
true canyon
I was pretty happy with how scoreboards turned out, considering how horrible the Mojang code was (client just... disconnects... if the server says one thing it doesn't like about scoreboards)
cosmic raft
kashike 
true canyon
kashike 😍
spiral robin
kash 
woven otter
🐱shike
cosmic raft
for a second there i was gonna ban you as some random spammer
warm anchor
Daily offunny post wow
tired heath
😄
void void
Is there any NBT library with ORM?
latent lance
why is everyone on java development trans
limpid comet
nice
tired heath
translucent?
spiral robin
ohmy
limpid comet
3
spiral robin
2
limpid comet
a 1 a 2 a 3 to the 4
unkempt drift
a translucent human would probably give me nightmares or something. If it was alive def
latent lance
m to the b m to tbe be
limpid comet
snoopy doggy dog and dr dre is at the door
limber knotBOT
wuts happening gamers
warm anchor
Did you just assume robot gender
latent lance
jhuisdhfbiusdhesou
warm anchor
Look at what you done ofunmy
tired heath
was bad influence
warm anchor
You are forgiven 
tired heath
latent lance
limber knotBOT
I am to be: non-dumcordian
latent lance
are you talking over web smpftp or something
limber knotBOT
s/don't/do
Correction, <DiscordBot> <11ofunny> No, is an AI bot, do trust robo
s/name/name, therefore he's more qualified than me
Correction, <DiscordBot> <11ofunny> you see bot after the name, therefore he's more qualified than me
tired heath
well, one point for IRC, I admit
zealous wedge
wat
upper flicker
some mad bait
zealous wedge
nah they just bundle the kotlin plugin now
even better, the lombok plugin is included
restive thicket
Really?
zealous wedge
unfortunately, yes
restive thicket
Well, it's nice for programs that do use Lombok.
It should make the barrier of entry easier ~~more easy than using Lombok already is 😛 ~~
tired heath
Still not sure if I like Lombok or dislike it
waxen panther
dislike
vestal jasper
.lombok
waxen panther
all my homies hate lombok
limber knotBOT
[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on
gonna be a hard nope from me
just go c#
tired heath
Mostly I hate ppl. who using Lombok to globally generate all setteres and getter for a class.
On the other side, if I just generate those what I really need, how much work would it save to use Lombok
slim nymph
LOMBOK MASTER RACE
waxen panther
!ban
zealous wedge
wat
slim nymph
you know, this is now more fuel to use lombok, since the only IDE you should be using provides it, everyone will ahve it!
zealous wedge
time to switch to eclipse
waxen panther
the only ide everyone should be using also provides a very easy to use generate tool
slim nymph
you're talking to mr anti boilerplate
waxen panther
Oh so you're mr kotlin?
true canyon
even better, the lombok plugin is included
Time to request a refund.
zealous wedge
even better, you could use just use modern java
slim nymph
if kotlin didn't have other things that bothered me, those features of kotlin are nice yes
tired heath
<:kappa:658734316209176576>
most ides do
zealous wedge
can't stay illegal forever
viral hornet
lombok 
waxen panther
and yeah probably ofunny, last time I used eclipse I was like 12 years old
camm i hope ur joking or im about to
slim nymph
a syntax for simple pojo's is nice
id love if we could have 10% of kotlin but still be java 😛
spiral robin
Just make everything public and then you don't need getter or setter :)
tired heath
Can generate all, do interface ex and stuff, I use both, switching around
spiral robin
Camm ❤️❤️❤️
vestal jasper
aber 💙
spiral robin
Vic 🥺
waxen panther
i refuse to work for a lombok lover
slim nymph
i really don't get peoples animosity towards lombok. we have all these frameworks with annotation based "magic", that powers many great things, but lombok gets shit on way more than other projects
waxen panther
we'll you've got me there camm
viral hornet
Yessir'y bob I do
slim nymph
if you hate lombok, you should hate all annotation based magic frameworks
vestal jasper
camm enjoy my dm xoxo
waxen panther
I dont mind magic but lomboks magic is for a lot of really basic shit that you can do without
cunning raft
lombok is like kotlin, fine to use in your own home or something you never want contributions for
viral hornet
Vic 🥺
tired heath
Not hating lombok, but never was worth the effort to install it.
viral hornet
You're making my undercarriage steamy
waxen panther
woah
cunning raft
for large scale projects, best not to use lombok or stuff like it
waxen panther
carbonchat wen
cunning raft
increases barrier to entry
slim nymph
its a one time effort lol
true canyon
My issue with lombok is that it provides a barrier to entry (IDE plugins, and such) and understanding (not part of language spec and does effectively magic to a newbie)
slim nymph
yes thats only real reason i dont in my projects jroy
zealous wedge
yeah the main issue I have with it is that it uses non-public javac api
slim nymph
thats a valid concern, but with idea now bundling it ,thats reduced
waxen panther
my only experience with lombok have been some random project my friend was doing and idb
slim nymph
thats an impl detail though, doesnt impact its usage
zealous wedge
so it can break when using newer JDK versions
i'd rather use standard APs for generation
slim nymph
only real reason IDB was using it was it was from my own plugin code i extracted ,and for the Builder support
im fine with delomboking it though as its not a big enough gain
or was more of 'didnt take effort to delombok'
zealous wedge
like auto value / immutables both handle boilerplate without having to do weird hacks or need any special ide support
slim nymph
i really want extension methods but lomboks version sucks.
zealous wedge
ah yeah extension methods are quite nice
cunning raft
there's another cool project that does that
slim nymph
manifold got extension methods done soo nicely
cunning raft
i need to find it sec
slim nymph
yes manifold
slim nymph
but they went commercial
cunning raft
ffs
zealous wedge
oh eww
slim nymph
so wwe had to drop it 😦
SUPER expensive too
its free if you use IDEA Community IDE, But I don't lol
and i'm not paying like 200/yr for it
cunning raft
lol wtf only community
slim nymph
they figure Ultimate = Commercial uses
zealous wedge
and is there even a delombok-style tool for manifold? or are you locked in forever
cunning raft
lol that's dumb
slim nymph
but the way extension methods worked in it was so simple to use
i really liked them
you had a special root package, then you put like <special>.org.bukkit.entity.Player class, add your methods to that class, bam all Player objects see the extension method
pretty intuitive unlike lomboks
reef hornet
Would anyone be able to assist me with this? Been happening to me for a few weeks and I haven’t had any luck in diagnosis unfortunately.
any help would be greatly appreciated
zealous wedge
oh that's not bad, seems kinda like Groovy extension methods aikar
void void
Are you using latest version of Spigot or Paper @reef hornet
reef hornet
I am using 1.12.2 latest paper
zealous wedge
ah lol that's not supported
if you can reproduce on 1.16.4 it can probably be fixed there
reef hornet
I understand, I’d update but the performance issues are too great for me to update really
zealous wedge
sounds like a you problem
reef hornet
yeah I’m not complaining
void void
Well what makes this happen
tired heath
Would you like a cupcake?
reef hornet
Simply asking for some assistance if possible
void void
I think some plugins may mess up NMS and result in crash in the next tick
not sure tho
zealous wedge
unsupported means unsupported
reef hornet
toshimichi would you mind if I dm you?
limber knotBOT
say it here, no fear!
austere ivy
xoxo or whatever Vic said
limber knotBOT
well, here there is quite a bit of fear for some things tho
viral hornet
austere ivy
:(
zealous wedge
uh camm what the fuck is that font
waxen panther
viral hornet
omg hahaha
I turned down everything on my PC graphic wise, made everything high performance > quality 😅
I know it's painful to look at, I'm sorry @zealous wedge 
waxen panther
the human eye cant see more than 200 pixels
viral hornet
I mean, I have a 960 (mates second hand one - was using a 760), and it's good, but, still have issues in some games XD
When I get some more $$$ I need to sink it into a new B E A S T Y pc
waxen panther
if u waste money on a prebuilt i will shout at u
waxen panther
😔
tired heath
more than 200 pixel on/at/with what
viral hornet
exactly
tired heath
but i see sharp as f bra
viral hornet
bra
waxen panther
im a married man now i cant see these kinds of gifs
viral hornet
im sorry brocc 🥺
viral hornet
I can't wait to meet blocc
waxen panther
viral hornet
yes brocc & blocc are newly weds 🥺
spiral robin
Omg
waxen panther
yes thank u
viral hornet
I can't wait for the honeymoon 🥺
viral hornet
yes 🥺
waxen panther
waxen panther
it's beautiful
im not sure which of my servers i put it in
i'll put it in the dev one for you
spiral robin
Inv me to brocc dev 🥺
viral hornet
@upper flicker
This makes me so happy
brocc we need to make it our mission
to find all of the plead emoji's
waxen panther
ok epic
i lost a lot of pleads when i cleaned up my servers
gunna have to reclaim them
viral hornet
waxen panther
the dev server will be filled with purely plead emotes
discord style pleads only though
waxen panther
agree
viral hornet
I'm so glad you agree
waxen panther
we know that z750 loves these ones too
limber knotBOT
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waxen panther
online only
tired heath
is not 2
merry talon
yeah but I would've thought it would be free
waxen panther
like gta online
merry talon
or like $20
tired heath
"150GB lets gooo" actually true?
spiral robin
🥺
tired heath
GTX 770, too much for my pc
waxen panther
hydraxus please type faster
the anticipation is killing me
im ova here boutta break down
short yarrow
I just started looking into Hikari and looked at several repos to see how people set things up. Like in LuckPerms I see lucko uses DataSource and other repos use JDBC Driver. I've never heard of DataSource before now. I only knew of the JDBC driver. After looking into DataSource it seems it just provides extra configurability specific to the DataSource you're using, did I get that right?