They are replacing the tax form though
#general
marble lark
Apparently running Minecraft on Graal instead of HotSpot works wonders
wide chasm
Would be nice if they were slightly better at communicating the changes though
limber knotBOT
interesting
well I'll just wait what they'll do after fully integrating it into the overwolf ecosystem ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wide chasm
Yeah same
vernal moth
twitch deleted stuff tho
limber knotBOT
^ was a quote
"I mean, they gave them explicit rights to distribute their stuff indefinitely... not sure what people expect from cooperations? for them to not use any rights you grant them to their ultimate advantage?"
the dum bot really needs to understand quotes
golden gust
nou
limber knotBOT
not really too sure about twitch/amazon deleting anything seeing as they still have all clips/vods that people delete 👀
waxen panther
🙄
compact pulsar
oh the launcher background is updated
Yes, we can now add Microsoft Account and launch the Dungeons game in the same Launcher now.
cunning raft
they already started the MS account shit?
thought that was Q1
or is this new accounts only
twin lagoon
new acc only
cosmic raft
new accounts
cunning raft
gotcha
compact pulsar
they already started the MS account shit?
From today, new accounts are for MSA. Migrating it will be in earler 2021
ashen cliff
do the new accounts get the cape tho?
marble lark
?
compact pulsar
<:mojangthink:655125718677848100> do the new accounts get the cape tho?
Idk
compact pulsar
But maybe it'll limited only who will migrate their accounts, to thank players.
waxen panther
fuck da cape 😠
marble lark
I'm just worried about the authentication system they're using from now on
on Bedrock you can already get shadow muted for no reason at all
twin lagoon
those are two different things
marble lark
and you can get banned on Bedrock too from not just servers but the entire game itself
cunning raft
they're not going to moderate java edition like they do bedrock
marble lark
those are two different things
God I hope so
golden gust
mojang can and do already ban people on java
cunning raft
^
ashen cliff
Yet.
cunning raft
it's called deleting your account
marble lark
mojang can and do already ban people on java
Hol up what
twin lagoon
how is that surprising
waxen panther
of course they do lmao
cunning raft
a fucking microsoft account doesn't change the fact they can still control your damn account
compact pulsar
Plus they can ban servers too since 1.9 release
marble lark
I haven't heard of accounts being deleted before though so that's genuinely new to me
compact pulsar
They can add your server IP to blacklist
ashen cliff
I'm surprised they didn't click unique on that username column.
topaz mortar
1.8 actually
1.7.x
Migration to Netty was done in 1.7
twin lagoon
i thought it was originally 1.8 and maybe backported to 1.7?
wide chasm
This is why I only play 1.6.4 /s
golden gust
It was a change done in authlib (or whatever)
topaz mortar
did they backport the changes to 1.7 tho
It is just updating the netty custom lib.
marble lark
a fucking microsoft account doesn't change the fact they can still control your ...
Well yeah but iirc Bedrock edition has moderators that aren't part of Mojang that can ban you from the game itself unless I remembered wrongly
marble lark
well that's good I guess
cunning raft
It is just updating the netty custom lib.
right, didn't think they did it for 1.7 tho
and sherman stop being conspiracy carlos
marble lark
I'll be happy if they just used the accounts but not the entire system, that's my only worry
twin lagoon
what system
waxen panther
topaz mortar
right, didn't think they did it for 1.7 tho
So the only way to be safe of blacklisting is only allowing <=1.6.4. 😄
marble lark
and sherman stop being conspiracy carlos
My concerns are minor buddy you should go take a look at the comments on the official Mojang video announcing the switch 😛
cunning raft
you can look at the fucking netcode yourself
do you see any chat packets being sent to mojang
waxen panther
ah yes, children commenting on a video they dont understand at all
they hold the best opinions
cunning raft
in fact the only data sent between you and mojang is auth, that's it
marble lark
they hold the best opinions
...that's not what I meant xd
vernal moth
My concerns are minor buddy you should go take a look at the comments on the off...
Imagine reading youtube comments
marble lark
in fact the only data sent between you and mojang is auth, that's it
ok yes I get the point take your own advice and calm down
Idk I get bored on Yt sometimes
cunning raft
huh
warm anchor
I can literally feel my IQ going lower reading rn
cunning raft
calm down at what
golden gust
that's actually just the hole in the back of your skull leaking brain matter
warm anchor
loll
cunning raft
this is the 100th time people have had to correct people like you who take youtube comments at face value because you're scared your 12 player anarchy server may get shutdown
warm anchor
You mean the fake anarchy server that admin regularly coming out and remove lag machine? 
marble lark
this is the 100th time people have had to correct people like you who take youtu...
Do I look like I'm acting like Java Edition is getting shut down next year
I was just a little worried is all
waxen panther
tf is mcpc
cunning raft
stop being worried
marble lark
stop being worried
Yes I already told ya I got the message
marble lark
tf is mcpc
Minecraft PC idk i prefer calling it that
cunning raft
there's 3 pc versions of mc so
ashen cliff
Don't forget to count Classic.
waxen panther
🤨
merry talon
is bedrock just called
waxen panther
web too
merry talon
minecraft now?
twin lagoon
yes sweepy
marble lark
meh to me Java will always be the true PC xd
merry talon
ew
wide chasm
Java is the odd one out nowadays
marble lark
Don't remind me ;-;
to be fair both versions do have features the other doesn't anyway
warm anchor
Wouldnt bedrock in theory has better scale for larger server than JAVA?
twin lagoon
nop
wide chasm
They were working on making it scale better
twin lagoon
apparently it sucks ass when you get to large playercounts
marble lark
Why would it?
ashen cliff
Just write a custom server in Rust. 
merry talon
probably because java edition servers have had over a decade of optimization
marble lark
since it's just pure logic and no rendering
merry talon
and bedrock is just something they shit out one day
marble lark
that too ^
wide chasm
optimization
gets worse over time
warm anchor
LOL
compact pulsar
Bruh Bedrock servers are very odd. While I'm breaking a block there's no sound and animation on servers and I actually don't know why.
marble lark
but the only difference in theory is that Bedrock servers (The official one at least) runs natively, directly on the machine
while Java edition runs on the JVM
that's all I can think of for why Bedrock servers might have an edge tbh
the rest is just optimization and how well Mojang writes it
cunning raft
i mean there's the JNI plus the overhead isn't as bad as you think
wide chasm
The JVM + JIT are very competent and get very close in performance to native.
compact pulsar
Do you know why the servers have that problem which I wrote above? @marble lark
waxen panther
my brain hurts
marble lark
JNI for a server?
marble lark
Do you know why the servers have that problem which I wrote above? <@!3154180616...
I can't find it xd
compact pulsar
I mean, in Bedrock servers when I break a block there is no sound and animation.
cunning raft
if mojang put the resources on it, they could definitely get a decently performing server
marble lark
also majority of the Bedrock servers are in PHP
cunning raft
not anymore
woven otter
my brain hurts
yeah thinking is bad for your brain. might've strained a braincell
marble lark
iirc only one Java and C# Bedrock server respectively exist
golden gust
bedrock got rewrote from the top almost
twin lagoon
cloudburst, pocketmine, mojang's version
cunning raft
maybe lifeboat still but otherwise a lot just use bukkit translations layers
twin lagoon
probably others that i missed
golden gust
So, they don't have like, dozens of years of notch code
marble lark
and C++ of course counting the official Mojang one
twin lagoon
using mc java versions for bedrock is also a viable option
few servers do that e.g. mineplex & cubecraft
marble lark
maybe lifeboat still but otherwise a lot just use bukkit translations layers
Good god you don't want to see the monstrosity that is Lifeboat's server
compact pulsar
They need to create official Plugin API on Bedrock, written in Java.
twin lagoon
wat
cunning raft
hive too i think
twin lagoon
hive has their own java server software iirc
wide chasm
Lifeboat is still a thing?
twin lagoon
i don't think it's based off of minecraft java but there's not much known
lifeboat is still a thing yes
golden gust
mojang and MS don't really have a reason to make a public API
marble lark
Lifeboat is still a thing?
Steadfast is horrendous in every way
compact pulsar
Does Bedrock is multithreaded while Java not?
golden gust
Nor do they have a reasonable release cycle for a nice API to be done anyways, as stuff like improvements and stuff would take months to drop
marble lark
It's Bedrock edition 0.14 server but protocol bumped
twin lagoon
depends on the implementation
golden gust
Not really
marble lark
Does Bedrock is multithreaded while Java not?
Mostly no
golden gust
They have the same threading aspects as java edition afaik
compact pulsar
Sadly.
marble lark
How would one multithread Minecraft anyway
twin lagoon
by rewriting parts of it
golden gust
that's complex
twin lagoon
problem is that a lot of users want backwards compataibility with plugins n shit
and multi-threading some parts of it would break plogens
marble lark
I've been curious to how stuff can be multithreaded in say Unity or something
golden gust
biggest thing is behavioral changes
twin lagoon
- it's just shit work tbh
topaz mortar
Each world a thread for ticking.
golden gust
determinate behavior and threading is ass
twin lagoon
that said it's not impossible, there's a commercial paper fork with multi-threaded entities
golden gust
making worlds individually thread is trivial so long as there is no shared state and having to deal with stuff like cross-teleporting, etc
compact pulsar
I think making the game multithreading is an exciting thing, I can rewrote my plugins even I spent 6 months because this is an update which we are waiting such a long time lol
marble lark
My implementation of my own game some time ago was 1 Thread for the main loop, 1 for physics, one for rendering and the last one was for game logic
twin lagoon
there's plenty of things to do that could improve performance without multi-threading though
look at leaf's starlight engine for example
golden gust
the issue is making the API safe and the 10 years almost of "we don't break older plugins"
marble lark
but apparently according to stackoverflow even that wasn't enough
twin lagoon
My implementation of my own game some time ago was 1 Thread for the main loop, 1...
that sounds like microsoft flight simulator and it's ass
marble lark
some people feel like each entity should be it's own thread
like is that even possible
golden gust
That's moronic
It's possible if you completely forget about computational resources and behavior
woven otter
fibers
marble lark
that sounds like microsoft flight simulator and it's ass
Hold up how is it slow if it's multithreaded moderately xd
golden gust
There are some phases of the logic which would be trivial to parallelize
topaz mortar
some people feel like each entity should be it's own thread
Friends of mine had the idea of each entity by type on its own node.
twin lagoon
Hold up how is it slow if it's multithreaded moderately xd
"moderately"
it's still very cpu bound
marble lark
odd I thought 4 cores were enough
twin lagoon
golden gust
I mean, multiple threads are needed generally anyways, the issue is tying it all back into another
golden gust
a thread for rendering has been the defacto standard for games for years
golden gust
The thing is that you've still gotta get the data into that thread
ashen cliff
Async GPU Entities when?
golden gust
stuff like making entities run on another thread is dumb in vanilla as that happens in a specific phase, so there is literally 0 gains there
waxen panther
I want my threads to run on another thread
ashen cliff
All I hear are excuses.
compact pulsar
I actually can't understand why Minecraft's FPS is so bad. Is it because it is not multithreaded?
marble lark
can't comment since I don't really know the program flow of entity AI
golden gust
parallel ticking is where it's at in terms of actually improving performance
MCs FPS is more on the rendering engine
marble lark
I actually can't understand why Minecraft's FPS is so bad. Is it because it is n...
I believe it's because the render engine is written poorly
golden gust
You can't have more than one thread writing to the GPU, so multiple threads for rendering specifically is pointless
waxen panther
fps is an ez clap with starlight, sodium and lithium
twin lagoon
gta doesn't even have raytracing
waxen panther
loll
marble lark
Minecraft's render engine is too heavily based on the CPU iirc
golden gust
Not to mention, the engine is old af and still using dated APIs
compact pulsar
I don't know why he told me that lol
marble lark
for most games you'll see them chewing the GPU
ashen cliff
Got to support that legacy.
golden gust
newer versions of opengl offer better performance, etc; and we're still on a 9 year old release or something iirc
marble lark
for Minecraft you'll realise the CPU is pretty idle (Least in my case)
waxen panther
pog ?
marble lark
newer versions of opengl offer better performance, etc; and we're still on a 9 y...
Didn't MC use LWJGL 3.2.2 or somethin
something
compact pulsar
@marble lark can you check PM?
golden gust
Which is a wrapper for opengl
waxen panther
merry talon
is bedrock using the same opengl?
vernal moth
Bedrock has a whole other render stack
twin lagoon
bedrock uses directx aswell
merry talon
ah
vernal moth
Pretty sure they use DirectX where possible
twin lagoon
directx 12 even
topaz mortar
Vulkan when.
ashen cliff
Vulkan when.
vernal moth
Wouldn't be surprised to find vulcan there
austere ivy
ray tracing for Minecraft on Java would open up some really cool non-Euclidean possibilities
ashen cliff
compact pulsar
I checked Render Dragon Engine (which hopegully it'll be fully released this month on windows 10 as a holiday update) and I can't get more FPS. Anyone tested it?
woven otter
normal geometry is euclidean
austere ivy
here, there’s a decade old example of a “non-euclidean” game I can get
merry talon
antichamber?
austere ivy
the one krusic linked is cool but there’s one that I found a lot more cool
next frost
there's no normal geometry 
austere ivy
antichamber is great but wasn’t really that non-euclidean, more teleporting tricks
ashen cliff
I like that one, as they explain it pretty well.
woven otter
there's no normal geometry <:ANGERY:641748074942693376>
well the one we are used to
austere ivy
https://youtu.be/0pmSPlYHxoY here’s the one
just about a decade old but they still managed some super cool things
truly noneuclidean because the space itself got bent and warped, and the raytracing allowed the visuals to truly showcase what was happening
oh oh and this is the actual super cool one that I really meant to send
marble lark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEB11PQ9Eo8
ooh it's that really trippy effect thing
vernal moth
austere ivy
African food: long pause
wide chasm
It's warmer in september
compact schooner
hi all - brand new MC admin... have 8 node cluster of r210ii servers using ProxMox on each. I installed MineOS and get vanilla going but having issues finding info on installing and modding with MC Spigot or Paper... MineOS has something called PaperSpigot as a DL option for jars/packs - but I noticed that MCPaper stopped using that name 2 years ago according to the post.. is this mean it is out dated? I see paperspigot-1072 mc version 1.11.2 which seems quite old...
austere ivy
also yes that’s because Germany has a collective lack of braincells Michael, they all pooled their intelligence and gave it to their two people, Mini and Kenny
golden gust
mods don't run on paper
waxen panther
mineos? lmao
austere ivy
hey wait you can’t send a long message right before I send my joke, then the context will be missed :(
twin lagoon
hi all - brand new MC admin... have 8 node cluster of r210ii servers using ProxM...
wouldn't use mineos either
merry talon
well just about everything you're doing is outdated
marble lark
@compact schooner anything that has paperspigot instead of Paper is outdated
marble lark
that is named***
compact schooner
the mineos is a nice dashboard
twin lagoon
yes but you're better off using a fresh install of Debian and Pterodactyl
marble lark
not sure what mineos is tho
twin lagoon
both are free
round grove
hi
woven otter
this is MCPaper 2.0 
golden gust
Well, many things use the old paper name instead of updating it, but, 1.11.2 is as old as 1.11.2 is, we're on 1.16.4 now
compact schooner
I tried pterodactyl but it would not work for me on the new version I tried to install a few weeks ago
twin lagoon
then you didn't install it properly
compact schooner
lol duh
spent 3 hours on it then went to bed at 3 am
should try again I think
vernal moth
also yes that’s because Germany has a collective lack of braincells Michael, the...
Octoberfest is almost 3 weeks ^^
compact schooner
yeah my vanilla is 1.16.4 but not sure how to setup paper
twin lagoon
they all pooled their intelligence and gave it to their two people, Mini and Kenny
ok but we all know it went mostly to mini
because @quasi valley is dum
golden gust
clearly didn't have much to go around
twin lagoon
and mini is just drunk 24/7 so it's natural
compact schooner
mini sounds fun
quasi valley
@twin lagoon 🐌
golden gust
Well, yea, but, his head is just full of blood these days
twin lagoon
kneny 
waxen panther
makes him smarter
woven otter
yeah my vanilla is 1.16.4 but not sure how to setup paper
running vanilla is pretty much the same as running paper
vernal moth
Kenny is from up north, I bet he ever even was to Octoberfest before
waxen panther
kenny has moved pass the need for blood in other areas of his body
golden gust
maybe that explains the australian accent
beer and constant pool of blood in the head
compact schooner
running vanilla is pretty much the same as running paper
tips or how to anywhere?
vernal moth
Just replace the jar basically gozippy
compact schooner
ok
cosmic raft
@waxen panther dance! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVfjk50mgLE
twin lagoon
Video unavailable
This video is not available.
vernal moth
I can sing it for you michael!
cosmic raft
heh
compact schooner
will geyser work ok with waterfall/bungee paperMC?
twin lagoon
yes
twin lagoon
brocc 
waxen panther
marble lark
I'm taking a test rn from college and holy shit did they set the questions to be annoying af
int num1=4, num2=8;
if (num1 < num2) if (num2 > 5) if(num1 > num2) cout << "Within range!";
else cout << "Outside range!";
compact schooner
some basic shit
cosmic raft
The answer is 3.
cosmic raft
lol
compact schooner
she just wanted some cake
golden gust
didn't even eat any
compact schooner
put some icing on it and give to mother in law - no one will know
or your roomie
or take to the office and give to boss
marble lark
Send help
#include <iostream>
#include <cmath>
using namespace std;
int main(){int x=6,y=2;cout << pow(x,y) << endl;return 0;}
compact schooner
wow
vernal moth
> didn't even eat any
Cats don't like hash browns ^^
marble lark
who even set this f*&@ing test good lord
compact schooner
weirdo cats I suppose... my dogs play in it and roll in it and swim and do doggie things but never my cats
austere ivy
Cats don't like hash browns ^^
do you have any evidence for this claim?
compact schooner
fake news
golden gust
I mean, I can imagine it being total ass to try to eat hash browns as a cat
Like, with the texture and fact it just tends to fall apart at the innards
marble lark
Would y'all fire someone if they did this
int main(){
int i=2, num=0;
while(i<10){num+=i*2;i+=2;}
cout << num;
return 0;
}
austere ivy
yes. indent your code.
left swift
I would fire u
marble lark
yes. indent your code.
good help me fire whoever set my test
austere ivy
also put a space after the parameter things
marble lark
I'm going to fail at this rate lmao
austere ivy
you’re supposed to learn how to mentally parse and understand code that is formatted improperly
fix the formatting in your head, run through the code, there you go
a lot of being a software developer (I think) is dealing with barely readable legacy code.
left swift
Mineacadamey isn't shaped up to what it seems Sherman
vernal moth
do you have any evidence for this claim?
Surprisingly yes 😂 😂 😂
marble lark
it's not asking about fixes there's like 1 million of there where you have to find the result and I'm slowly dying inside
vernal moth
They also leave room if you smoke
marble lark
Mineacadamey isn't shaped up to what it seems Sherman
?
vernal moth
One of the cats of my best friend even closes the door to the bedroom behind him 🤣
But he does that for Shisha/hookah too
austere ivy
lol that’s amazing. do you have any cats, mini?
vernal moth
No small flat
vernal moth
But whenever I wanna see cats I just go over to her, her mom breeds bengals
marble lark
aye
void void
meow
compact schooner
a lot of being a software developer (I think) is dealing with barely readable le...
that is my problem - unreadable code from indian dev and korean dev teams
ashen cliff
void void
wdym? Indian devs are good
golden gust
working on CB based code is basically that but in hardcore mode
compact schooner
some younger ones are just lazy in their formatting and style so its just ugly code from my experience
ashen cliff
Auto format.
golden gust
Yea, it was already gonna get torn down
not really a surprised that it flipped off, it's been going for time
golden gust
other month a cable broke, think something else went too and basically it was determined to be too costy/dangerous to repair it or something
cosmic raft
what is it?
merry talon
void void
Why do CPU with more cores have less GHz speed?
cosmic raft
neat
limber knotBOT
_Chivitos100_: heat needs to get away somehow
maximum speed
ignore physics, gotta go fast
austere ivy
robo why has intel not hired you
limber knotBOT
just teleport heat away 
because you didn't get me a contact duh
gotta be in the in-crowd to get anywhere
skills are only of secondary importance
austere ivy
little known fact: inside of each and every amd cpu is a repeat commandblock teleporting the heat away. the reason that older amd cpus weren’t as heat efficient was because they didn’t have repeat commandblocks at that time, so they had to have one hooked up to a redstone clock, which counterintuitively generated heat
void void
lol ?
[16:39:30 INFO]: An update for Party-and-Friends-Free &4is available. The newest version is 1.0.81.
[16:39:30 INFO]: Enabled plugin PartyAndFriends version 1.0.82 by Simonsator
ashen cliff
Real reason: power consumption and money.
vernal moth
arecibo was such a cool and iconic piece of tech
austere ivy
lol ?
[16:39:30 INFO]: An update for Party-and-Friends-Free &4is available. The...
author didn’t publish build to spigot yet or whatever they’re checking for latest version
void void
ah ok
limber knotBOT
they just have a dumb update checker which doesn't take into account that the "latest" might be older than the current lol
austere ivy
(that’s a lie, it’s actually because inside of every single jar lives a little elf who tells the plug-in what the latest version is. seems like the news of the new version hasn’t reached your elf yet.)
limber knotBOT
all I gotta say is if ur annoyin enuf 2 stick an update checker that's default on, u better b able to auto-update 2
auto updating is way more invasive lol
slim nymph
uh no robo, thats a really dumb statement
auto update is bad, and should never be done, but informative abilities that let server owners know about updates w/o them manually checking can be useful and encourage updating
austere ivy
I just typed out twice that and didn’t manage to say as much as you did 😔
merry talon
tbh i just wish there was some kind of standard
each plugin will tell you in a different way
and most not at all, so you still have to go through all the effort
limber knotBOT
ofc I'm slightly kidding, but most update checkers, at least half are done on main thread
and I don't really need the spam when I'm building from repo most of the time anyways
or when they all inevitably fail...
this-is-fine.png
slim nymph
is 100% all cores or 1 core in windows?
elfin pumice
does someone know any plugin to ratelimit mob farms? (iron farm, ghast farm, pigman farm)
limpid comet
fairly sure it's all cores in task manager
merry talon
yeah it never goes above 100
ashen cliff
Make sure to run the update check on the main thread, set the timeout to 10s, infinite retries and shut your website down.
limber knotBOT
crashback: this plugin should be able to do that if configured properly https://github.com/Minebench/MobLimit
elfin pumice
i also want to limit the mob spawn rate
limber knotBOT
there are general settings in the bukkit.yml, per mob settings don't exist and aren't really ideal to be done via plugins
elfin pumice
a plugin who removes a mob every 2 maybe
limber knotBOT
well people around here generally care about server performance ;)
elfin pumice
would this make the server lag this much?
limpid comet
wait
qemu saves the virtual machine's state?
i can just go back to exactly where i left off
twin lagoon
snapshots
limpid comet
virtual box used to take like 5 years on windows to save a machine's state
twin lagoon
sounds like a slow pc
limpid comet
i mean, it's instant with gnome boxes
starting to think it unironically might be the year of the linux desktop
ashen cliff
Not having native performance.
limpid comet
yeah shits super cool
what are AMD cpus like for virtualization? any better than intel?
ashen cliff
About the same really.
First gen had some issues, but they fixed their stuff with microcode updates.
limpid comet
cool, cool
krusic where do you get all your computer knowledge from
you seem to be very knowledgeable with this stuff
ashen cliff
Life.
left swift
Live
Laugh
Love
untold copper
I got my very limited knowledge from a thicc book lol
limpid comet
the only tech book i have is a kubernetes one
ashen cliff
Mostly due to stuff always going wrong.
limpid comet
lol fair
ashen cliff
Thanks X99.
limpid comet
what isn't going wrong nowadays, it's 2020
merry talon
considering how fast PC hardware moves
limpid comet
some shit is great to learn through a book
depends on what field
some stuff never changes
untold copper
70 INR = approx 1 usd
ashen cliff
fast
It's been very stale for like 6 years now.
merry talon
ermmm
limpid comet
taking apart a pc from 10 years ago vs now is a very similar experience
more cuts on your hands from sharp metal
merry talon
a lot has changed since haswell
untold copper
I learnt a lot of things through books lol
merry talon
which is listed on the back of the book
untold copper
I even read this thicc networking one
void void
😋
ashen cliff
Like in the consumer space, nothing really changed, Intel still not giving people above 4G decoding, same for AyyMD.
SR-IOV still dead for us, ethernet still stuck at 1Gbps.
untold copper
yes, whatever he said.
ashen cliff
10Gbps is could cheap now, but companies are trying to make more money by making new equipment.
The only reason 2.5G and 5G exist are as excuses for delaying 10Gbps.
But old wire installation,
But cables from 50 years ago,
But our wet string,
But out broken driver from Win 95.
untold copper
ashen cliff
Faster.
untold copper
Skills man, skills.
mossy vessel
10Gbps ~~is~~ could cheap now, but companies are trying to make more money by ma...
I'd be fine with 100mbps constantly over the day.
twin lagoon
nmf 
untold copper
ashen cliff
Same, but for local networks, 10G would be nice.
mossy vessel
Michele 👀
untold copper
Michelle
ashen cliff
And till most people are still running 100M equipment at home, ISPs won't upgrade their backend stuff.
We all know that 1 Cisco switch from 2003 holding up the whole country.
untold copper
xD true
mossy vessel
Wouldn't even benefit me if I get anything that is capable to handle more than 100M, just a waste of money at this point.
Would just get ridiculous expensive for a single household.
ashen cliff
At this point 1G and 100M cost the same, since 100M is discontinued.
twin lagoon
you're a bad joke
untold copper
gee thanks bro
twin lagoon
ashen cliff
As it should be.
limpid comet
omg
mental meadow
you know you're on debian if you don't even hve Java 15
topaz mortar
cat /etc/debian_version
ashen cliff
sid
I like that apt now downloads multiple things at once.
So that super slow Jenkins update doesn't stall all other downloads.
ashen cliff
It's been in sid for some time now.
mighty storm
Updated The Ultimate "My server version isn't Paper 1.16.4, what should I do?" Document in case anyone is interested, I am a lot more friendlier and descriptive https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VFdsJKZFKcmLxcQLs9R5G3fY9d7v6YgDtG0J2HxVoX0/edit?usp=sharing
woven otter
Good job 👍
woven otter
https://i.imgur.com/rNKHdbD.png
I tried
spiral robin
xd
limpid comet
from a bygone era
forest sun
Does anyone knows where i can get some help with timings?
slim nymph
forest sun
Thanks
twin lagoon
flex
lone sparrow
Been thinking about starting a smp lately so i decided to join here
lone sparrow
You wanna see?
fallen oracle
How is it pretty good so far if you haven't even unboxed it yet? O.o
lone sparrow
From the reviews
spiral robin
greasemonkey
twin lagoon
violent
woven otter
fat
ashen cliff
How can you get more than unlimited?
waxen panther
mods ples
twin lagoon
just not gonna say anything
waxen panther
fair
twin lagoon
that's just great ngl
waxen panther
Can’t believe you didn’t see it
wide chasm
?warn @lone sparrow Please don't post... such pictures
leaden oxideBOT
happygolucky22#2121 has been warned. || Please don't post... such pictures
twin lagoon
stef you hate us
twin lagoon
dm
ashen cliff
A very excited person standing next to a Xbox box.
topaz mortar
You've a Xbox box but there is not Xbox in the box?
left swift
Some people just cant contain their excitement
They will win over ps5 again if they bring back the actual X-box looking xbox
spiral robin
austere ivy
@limpid comet
limpid comet
good, glad to see people can read
austere ivy
I can’t read, sorry what?
spiral robin
thats rare around these parts
limpid comet
btw we're reaching peak levels of comfy
austere ivy
that looks HOT
limpid comet
picom & discord works really well if you have a high opacity
austere ivy
imagine having a gpu or a good cpu 😔
austere ivy
I have an i5-3210m :)
limpid comet
oh
austere ivy
igpu:)
austere ivy
mhm yes
limpid comet
i would've liked something with a little more sauce but eh what can you do
its not like i game all that much
visual egret
hiiii
waxen panther
all you play is cs
limpid comet
hi oskar
s
oh
cs and minecraft but even then i haven't really touched them all that much recently
been 2 busy
spiral robin
with startmcdotsh
waxen panther
you could run cs on a brick
austere ivy
are you calling my computer not a brick?
visual egret
i am big man
waxen panther
yes
limpid comet
yeah source engine is incredibly light on resoures
waxen panther
austere ivy
:peepoheart:
limpid comet
interested to see if a source 2 cs update will change that even more
austere ivy
my nitro expired 😔
limpid comet
csgo looks pog wtf
waxen panther
Sadge
limpid comet
i would choose csgo's style over any other shooter
visual egret
source 2 is pog
austere ivy
apple adds peepo emojis wen??
limpid comet
i dont really like the hyper realistic aesthetic that all games have nowadays
csgo keeps it simple
visual egret
same
limpid comet
me likey
visual egret
although ray tracing is sexy
limpid comet
eh i never got it
maybe because i haven't really seen it in action all that much
reflections are cool i guess but it's not something i'm actively caring about
visual egret
i do prefer older games like half life over new stuff
limpid comet
yeah
i mean, half life alyx is one of the most detailed games ever, really
you can't really even compare it to 2d games
visual egret
i mean, half life alyx is one of the most detailed games ever, really
somehow runs on my GTX 1060
no idea how
limpid comet
i have to imagine source 2 would boost csgo's performance even more, the room-based optimization methods are really showing their age as of late
re: dangerzone
visual egret
sourse 2 the best
limber knotBOT
oh, so MS accounts are here now 👀
visual egret
are they?
limpid comet
multimc have support yet?
fallen oracle
Not yet
limpid comet
alright
limber knotBOT
mfw parental controls https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360052763631?ref=launcher
limpid comet
finally we can block phoenix from chat
limber knotBOT
;_;
limber knotBOT
it's not bad
waxen panther
it’s not bad
limber knotBOT
(if you have proper memory and obviously can cool it)
limber knotBOT
no, I mean the quality and speed of the used ram modules
regal path
oh
stiff yarrow
are you telling me I need tricked out RGB wham for better tps
limber knotBOT
yes, you also need to make sure to use the correct color: https://is.paper.sexy/fG6IjaBE.png
stiff yarrow
I had red LEDs in my case once, was too dark to see anything kind of underwhelming, it was only from the system fans tho
white LEDs are probably in fashion right now
ancient bolt
trying to use thunderbolt peripherals on a windows laptop is an exercise in frustration
my macbooks has fooled me into assuming things "just work" with thunderbolt, but that's just not true on windows
golden gust
\s/with thunderbolt//
visual egret
pink/rainbow is the best
ancient bolt
true lol
visual egret
if you look close enough, my pfp is pink
regal path
whats the fastest 1.16.4 startup time
visual egret
?
visual egret
just run an mc server on one of these:
https://twitter.com/markrussinovich/status/1333125443252228096
regal path
well you can get like 0.7s
what cpu with that time
coarse lily
I might turn on parental controls for myself and disable chat
visual egret
why?
coarse lily
Half the time I just wanna play the game and not see people saying random bullshit in gam
void void
if u know u know 
stiff yarrow
not as impressive as running doom in the task manager
visual egret
not as impressive as running doom in the task manager
umm you know that was fake?
limber knotBOT
ocelotpotpie: you know there is a setting ingame for that right?
stiff yarrow
@visual egret what makes you think it was fake
visual egret
that is not how task manager looks like*
waxen panther
right click the graph
twin lagoon
yes it does
visual egret
i mean look at the font
twin lagoon
change the graph to logical processors
waxen panther
whats wrong with the font lol
twin lagoon
the font looks like a high resolution monitor to fit everything on it
coarse lily
If someone was gonna fake it they'd take a screenshot of the task manager and then edit it. Not make a new one from scratch anyway.
regal path
hmm'
visual egret
wait on the video it says Logical Processors while on here it says % Utilisation over 60 seconds
twin lagoon
windows 8 / windows server 2016
visual egret
oh
twin lagoon
which seems to have sliiiiiiiiiiightly different font antialiasing / rendering
it's probably that + 4k monitor
cedar spade
iirc ClearType is also somewhat broken in Windows 10 so that might contribute
vestal jasper
Nerds
warm anchor
Wow rude
vestal jasper
Ur especially one
cedar spade
There's a bunch of tuning settings that haven't worked since early W10 versions
pale river
Linux mint text looks nicer than windows text on a 1080p monitor but it doesn't matter on 1440p
warm anchor
It was one of the reason why I stayed with 1080p ultra wide
Coz it just looks like ass
golden gust
stiff yarrow
server ping, or server performance
ping is never an issue if you put it in a half decent datacenter, people who are close to the server are going to have better ping unless their routing is awful
server performance is usually pretty bad in MC especially if you get high player counts, so there's a bunch of things you can do to influence that, server hardware, JVM flags, which plugins you use (bad code in plugins will eat TPS), paper server settings, etc, low TPS makes the game feel pretty jank
warm anchor
I mean hack even if you play from US to Asia it’s only 200ms. Still playable
Low tps on another hand makes doing anything impossible
golden gust
how do they even deal with re-orinenting the plane?
Like, I'd imagine that kinda sucks for the passengers
waxen panther
ahy es
stiff yarrow
there was a time period where due to routing russians had better ping on US servers in Dota 2 than the EU servers, so many russians in my pub games
void void
The PvP community is probably one of the worst communities in gaming
warm anchor
They still do
South America has better ping to USE
Than to South America server.
When I play in US East there are many Spanish speakers
worn ember
there was a time period where due to routing russians had better ping on US serv...
they still are plenty in EU West
warm anchor
Agree. 90% of people asking for 1.8 are all from PvP community
warm anchor
they still are plenty in EU West
You mean Russian west?
warm anchor
Try india
worn ember
too high ping
worn ember
one for each foot
stiff yarrow
@spare venture spooderman remaster looks pretty good, started to play it the other day
stiff yarrow
cpu
warm anchor
Ugh yes?
regal path
y the ugh
ashen cliff
Just set them off in spawn chunks.
stiff yarrow
its only using 1 percent tho
mc is single threaded largely, and only 1 core is ever going to be doing work on that stuff
regal path
hmm
worn ember
roblox better anyway
cosmic raft
spiral robin
bruh
austere ivy
what is your type of game?
zealous wedge
finally enough RAM to run electron
waxen panther
woah woah woah
stiff yarrow
Well, this type of superhero game is good as you feel pretty boss with how much mobility you have
it reminds me of prototype if you played that
void void
Can I ask why all the cores aren't equally spread in that part?
How come only a select triangle
Is it a certain algo?
stiff yarrow
gotcha, its a nice showcase for raytracing
void void
are there any translation api's like translating literals strings with java
limber knotBOT
what exactly is your goal?
reading messages from a language file? I wrote this for my stuff: https://github.com/Phoenix616/lang
zealous wedge
well ResourceBundle exists
void void
not necessarily from a lang, but rather outputs given to the user hardcoded not sure which approach is better 🤷♂️
public void provide(UserLanguage language, String message) { ... }
provide(Profiles.getProfileByName("Nerm").getUserLanguage(), "This message will now be sent to the user in there desired user language.");
that is an odd library...really inventing the wheel there
void void
thanks
upper flicker
at least it lets you do stuff like per-sender langs
Ive seen so many random libs for that though, and dozens of projects just write their own system
zealous wedge
I mean you can do that with adventure too :p
upper flicker
havent used adventure, good to know
most of the projects i see do it arent MC though either
zealous wedge
just register your resource bundle, then use normal translatable components
autumn elbow
Hi, can someone tell me if I need to upgrade paper server now minecraft updated and is there a page that explains and easy way to do this?
zealous wedge
ah yeah web service localization would be similarly annoying
waxen panther
adventure 🥺
spiral robin
adventue is pog
void void
adventure mode?
unreal quarry
speaking of.. is the plan still to replace bungee chat api with adventure in paper soon? ^_^
spiral robin
:o
woven otter
please do
spiral robin
pog
upper flicker
yes
woven otter
yes
void void
adventure?
vernal moth
.g adventure kyori github
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/KyoriPowered/adventure -- KyoriPowered/adventure: A user-interface library, formerly...: "A user-interface library, formerly known as text, for Minecraft: Java Edition - KyoriPowered/adventure. ... docs.adventure.kyori.net/ · View license..."
upper flicker
wow that's the most extensive readme on a kash repo Ive seen
golden gust
js
heady drift
anyone else having trouble logging into mc? with their mojang acc
worn ember
Allo Z
upper flicker
👀
wide chasm
Why would you improve a readme when people don't read anyway
cosmic raft
speaking of.. is the plan still to replace bungee chat api with adventure in pap...
yes
waxen panther
wen 
cosmic raft
plan is to not add more bungeecord stuff, and to introduce adventure
spiral robin
tomorrow
waxen panther
no its a pleading request
cosmic raft
stage 1 will be adding the adventure api
wide chasm
grabs ban hammer
waxen panther
wide chasm
accidentally hits Z instead
waxen panther
cosmic raft
stage 2 will be adding stuff for display names etc
upper flicker
freeeeeeedoooommmmmmmm
wide chasm
Well, the ban hammer has spoken
waxen panther
fr fr
golden gust
ur stage 4
waxen panther
i am the stage 4
worn ember
pretty sure ur dead at that point
waxen panther
I'd never be ded
worn ember
u r stage 4 cancer
spiral robin
wow!
worn ember
spiral robin
never talk to brocc like that
waxen panther
golden gust
broc
waxen panther
er ya hallo
golden gust
i hop u slip on a dildo
spiral robin
hop
worn ember
bad dragon
waxen panther
moby huge wouldn't be too bad
spiral robin
kashike is typing...
waxen panther
upper flicker
he's laying out his master plan
spiral robin
eta for when he will finish typing?
upper flicker
it's likely quite extensive knowing kash
worn ember
inb4 its totally unrelated
spiral robin
"guys am going macdonal you want hamburg?"
cosmic raft
I am hoping to have something ready for Adventure in Paper for December, but I make no promises or guarantees of this time frame. It might be December, or it might be later, it depends on how things go
again, no promises
waxen panther
worn ember
see 
void void
a or b
twin lagoon
c
spiral robin
hey i was going to say that
cosmic raft
if b is Effective Java, then that one
spiral robin
^
cosmic raft
I've heard good things
spiral robin
its really good i got it in march
void void
even html?
ancient bolt
especially html
vernal moth
Every programming language, but a few concepts might be transferable to html too
ancient bolt
oh small text says it's specific for object oriented programming
limpid comet
thanks for the suggestion
ancient bolt
so not every langauge
unreal quarry
do people really read books like that? i always thought of them as a reference guide, not a read cover to cover type deal. which the internet is a better and more up to date guide than books are
ancient bolt
I'm not a huge fan of overly object oriented designs
but it can still teach you some good things
upper flicker
some people do yeah, they prefer books
vernal moth
It's good to know concepts like that
ancient bolt
I've known several people who preferred to learn this stuff by reading books
void void
I can’t pay attention in depth whilst reading online like I could not read a literal book online
upper flicker
yeah I know people who learned exclusively from a book (or series of them)
void void
Documentation and tutorials sure
vernal moth
Because it you run into a problem, you there that there might be smth that could help, and then you go looking
unreal quarry
i cant read books 😦 i think i've read 2 my entire 37 years on this planet
void void
Just finished me 3rd in my lifetime as sad as it sounds
ancient bolt
tbh if you're going to read a book to learn programming, you should almost certainly find a good data structures and algorithms book
upper flicker
demonwav's book club when?
ancient bolt
data structures and algorithms is the core of all programming and computer science, and applies in all situations to all languages and environments
it also teaches you the basics of simply how to think in the context of programming
vernal moth
I had a uni course for that
void void
any suggestions?
vernal moth
The only one that I actually found useful
ancient bolt
I don't really read books for this stuff, so no I don't have suggestions