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vernal moth
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you had one job

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now you are a risk area and I cant travel

worn ember
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you think we'd follow the rules?

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where were you gonna travel to?

vernal moth
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dunkirk

worn ember
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just go around belgium

vernal moth
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belgian part

worn ember
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oh

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just like you should have done in ww2

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i dont think i've ever even been to dunkirk

mossy vessel
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I read drunkirk lol

worn ember
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have you seen Dunkirk (the movie) @vernal moth ?

vernal moth
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yes

worn ember
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great movie

vernal moth
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proper name is Oostduinkerke btw

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I just cant be bothered

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its dunkirk

worn ember
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mhm

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its just the english name i think

vernal moth
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well, oost implies east?

worn ember
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ye

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whats really weird is how even across the french border the towns/cities are still dutch

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near the coast there

vernal moth
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wtf

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now I refreshed the page and now its just brusseles again

worn ember
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i'm not even sure what code we're on tbh

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pretty sure its orange

vernal moth
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idk wtf that means, lol

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in germany, if you have more than 50 per 100k in the last 7 days, you become a nogo area for us

worn ember
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i dont think anyone does

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@mighty storm yes

worn ember
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why would you do it /area tho

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instead of /inhabitants

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mighty storm
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do not worry I managed to figure it out, turns out I needed master branch

worn ember
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any dense city is gonna pass that lol

vernal moth
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its 50 per 100k?

worn ember
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wow im dum i read that as km

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lmfao

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oostdunkerke is like 50mins from my home

vernal moth
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3h for me

worn ember
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whatcha gonna go do there tho?

vernal moth
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whatcha gonna go do there tho?
@worn ember chill in some bugalo with 3 friends, alcohol hookah bbq was the plan

mighty storm
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Check the server console
where would that message be except the console

worn ember
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hah, fair enough

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cheaper places to get drunk tho 😉

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altough i dont think its that expensive out of season

vernal moth
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800 euro I think

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for a week for 4

worn ember
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thats not too bad

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one of my friends has a pretty big apartment we go to during summer break to go nuts lol

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its another coast city tho

mighty storm
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maan screw gradle, build from intellij? works just fine! build from command line? no bueno

unkempt drift
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IntelliJ OS when?

twin lagoon
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hangar team

mighty storm
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pog

twin lagoon
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damn kenny looks like shit now

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perfect

stiff yarrow
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wheres leaf been lately

twin lagoon
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hm?

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he's alive, saw him chatting yesterday in another server

vernal moth
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hes also in here and talks occasionally

worn ember
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he occasionally comes to insult people

green turret
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He got a warning a couple of days ago

worn ember
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but he cant call people rwords anymore so he doesnt talk as much anymore

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

green turret
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I also try to avoid talking for fear of getting banned.

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I'm not very good at not talking.

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So far doing okay at not getting banned.

tawny stream
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@potent fossil yes, sorry I didn't know even there was a specific community 🤦‍♂️

worn ember
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meh people just get way too easily offended (no offense plz no ban)

vernal moth
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just dont act like a dick and you dont need to fear getting banned

mighty storm
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just do what i do

vernal moth
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we have very clear and understandable community guidelines

green turret
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You would think so.

worn ember
mighty storm
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lol

stiff yarrow
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what did VCS stand for anyway? Version Control System?
@worn ember git isn’t a VCS. git is the VCS. Many who try to git fail and never get to try again. The CLI breaks them. And some, are given a chance to rebase. They refuse, they cling to asking others to do it for them or GUIs or forced pushes. Illusions. Only the git CLI is real. The merge is all there is.

worn ember
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i press git buttons just fine tyvm

green turret
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Soon git push will be renamed to git offer.

worn ember
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git offer main

vernal moth
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git checkout is git switch now

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kinda

worn ember
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not the git i know

vernal moth
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I don't remember the difference between switch and checkout

stiff yarrow
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whats this about git switch, I hate change 🤡

worn ember
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i hate unneeded change

green turret
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git offer --insist-but-respect-a-no

vernal moth
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git switch is just a simpler and more concise version iirc

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git checkout can be really complicated if you want to

worn ember
vernal moth
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basically, git checkout has been split into git switch and git restore

green turret
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git checkout will be renamed to git admire-but-in-a-respectful-way-not-objectifying

vernal moth
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git checkout just is way too big of a command

stiff yarrow
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is there an example of how complex git checkout can be

green turret
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@mossy vessel I need this emoji to be available to me.

cedar spade
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probably the essay that is man git-checkout?

mossy vessel
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Ok, that makes $8.99 plus a penalty for pinging me

green turret
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I will not pay for this pong.

stiff yarrow
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oh some of these are neat

mossy vessel
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chew, that is very rude. I try to make money from stolen content

green turret
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It's very good! I want it.

mighty storm
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dmca me then

green turret
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It's fun to send off the D M C A

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🎵

mossy vessel
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lol smh

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There was no cute emoji so I had to rip one off

mighty storm
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why TF IS it DOING THIS

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what does intellij run that works flawlessly but oh suddenly when i run it in the terminal im the bad guy

green turret
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Different Java versions

mighty storm
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you might be on to something

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nvm both are 15

green turret
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OR ARE THEY

cedar spade
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inb4 "...yes"

green turret
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We don't know that yet!

cedar spade
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Also hi mule and mbax

green turret
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Hi MD and mbax!

mighty storm
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HOW CAN I SEE WHAT IT IS RUNNING

stiff yarrow
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in the settings somewhere

true canyon
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Does git offer work as a force push if in a boat because of the implication?

ancient bolt
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what am I supposed to do now if the pixel 5 is just gonna be trash god damnit google

green turret
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Ahahaha yes mbax!

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Choo just run a task that prints Java version

mighty storm
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both are openjdk 15 yes

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some issue with gradle

true canyon
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Choo

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huh, that's a new one for me

cedar spade
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git beckon asks the server for changes but respects the server if it doesn't notice

mighty storm
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oh wait, intellij is using __adopt__openjdk 15

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hmm

green turret
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I'm telling you that's what it is. I have the same issue with a project at work. Can't run in terminal because the gradle version requires a lower Java version, but IntelliJ works fine because it doesn't care what gradle thinks it wants.

ancient bolt
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if you want java 15 support just use a newer version of gradle

mighty storm
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they're both 15 though??? idk

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Gradle 6.6.1 specifically

true canyon
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git bacon offends a large portion of the population but is tasty for the rest

green turret
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If I'm wrong, which is HIGHLY UNLIKELY given my keen eye for bugs - I'll publicly say "ok but I had good intentions and just wanted help".

true canyon
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Your commits slide right in there, greasily.

minor badge
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@true canyon uwu!

true canyon
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uwu

green turret
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There are many good git commands

minor badge
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woa

green turret
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Do you folks know of a soft drink called Pepsi Max Lime

cosmic raft
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no

green turret
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It's refreshing and very low on calories.

mighty storm
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Okay, so there's a gradle/wrapper/gradle-wrapper.properties files. hmm

ancient bolt
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git fucked is an alias for sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

green turret
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Because I can't currently make key lime pie, Pepsi Max Lime is the next best thing.

mossy vessel
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I've never seen that before 👀

green turret
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What is git rekt then?

ancient bolt
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that's sudo dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda

green turret
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I don't want to run this command.

void void
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mfw this dd command probably doesn't even work

mighty storm
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AHHH

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it's just these javadoc too

green turret
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I have a very nice program on my computer. It's sl. If I ever type that instead of ls I get a nice little surprise.

mighty storm
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and it is using java 8 though too hm

green turret
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Chugga chugga chugga chugga

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Choo choo!

ancient bolt
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god I hate that

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I instead do alias sl=ls

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also, alias cd..='cd ..'

green turret
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No I want it

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It's also very nice when there are non techies visiting the office and they're filming or walking around looking at people's screens

ancient bolt
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why wouldn't you use matrix for that?

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er there's a better one than matrix, what's it called

green turret
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cmatrix?

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I have that running on one screen

ancient bolt
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it uses it

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but it also uses a bunch of other stuff

green turret
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Ohh

ancient bolt
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hollywood

twin lagoon
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phoenix616, ctr 1.0 beta 2

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perhaps it fixed your shit

green turret
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DW it's difficult to search for

mighty storm
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can i not specify a java version on jenkins?

ancient bolt
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once gradle 6.7 is released you can specify a java version with gradle

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it'll automatically download the right jdk version if it can't find one

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but yes you can define the java version in jenkins

mighty storm
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ok so this repo comes with a gradlew, build.gradle, and a gradle/wrapper/gradle-wrapper.jar/properties

ancient bolt
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tho usually just setting JAVA_HOME is the better option

mighty storm
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intellij's like "gotchu" but does NOT tell me what it runs to make that work

ancient bolt
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it runs gradle wrapper

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either that or

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gradle init

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it uses it's own built-in gradle to do that probably

mighty storm
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apparently

ancient bolt
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ahuh

mighty storm
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how do I "use the gradle from the properties"

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and apparently 1.8 too

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what a mess

ancient bolt
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you use ./gradlew

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that's all you do

green turret
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Chew I've had a really rough week and it's not getting better. Please let me have this win.

mighty storm
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same errors

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well it's downloading the wrong version for one

ancient bolt
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all intellij is doing to provide 1.8 is setting JAVA_HOME for when it calls gradle that way

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if you want a different JDK there, set it accordingly

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what error are you getting?

golden gust
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'downloading the wrong version'?

mighty storm
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ok so the error is definitely with the jdk

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build hasn't failed instantly, that's a good sign

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it BUILT but i archived the wrong artifacts

minor badge
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hoot

serene bolt
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🦉

mental meadow
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I'm the 2. On the right

limber knotBOT
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thanks for letting me know, Michael :)

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that seems to have fixed it, nice

magic river
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A single bitcoin transaction uses 610.20 kWh right now, which is comparable to the energy consumption of an average US household over 20 days.

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yikes

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That means it's the average consumption of an EU family for like 2 months, probably 😛

limber knotBOT
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really a single transaction or one mined block?

magic river
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You think 610 kWh would be enough for a block?

limber knotBOT
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I mean the block time is 10 minutes on avarage so yes?

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more than enough tbh lol

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what's the source?

magic river
twin lagoon
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how does that compare to others

magic river
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If the others aren't that high it's because they're open to attack from this network if someone cared enough to attack them 😛

limber knotBOT
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ah "**The minimum is calculated from the total network hashrate, assuming the only machine used in the network is Bitmain’s Antminer S9 (drawing 1,500 watts each). On February 13, 2019, the minimum benchmark was changed to Bitmain’s Antminer S15 (with a rolling average of 180 days), followed by Bitmain’s Antminer S17e per November 7, 2019."

magic river
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(the hardware might not support the others, etc etc close enough)

limber knotBOT
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might make sense for one transaction, for got how mining works lol

twin lagoon
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luckily there's coins out there that are based off of the proof of stake model

limber knotBOT
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"proof of stake" aka "the rich get richer"

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runs

magic river
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Power to mine a block / (Block size / Average tranaction size)

limber knotBOT
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(not that pow is any better in that regard lol)

twin lagoon
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ok but phoenix let's get to the real deal

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how's ctr

limber knotBOT
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it's diagnosing still

magic river
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You know this stuff was invented to fight spam

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Was supposed to make sending an email cost some CPU cycles that would be trivial for normal senders but ruin the value of spam

limber knotBOT
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should start with banning burning fossil fuel globally

magic river
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...did Google just rebrand Android TV and sell it as a new thing?

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limber knotBOT
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what's it now? "Google TV"?

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I hate when I'm right...

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and yeah, they have distanced themselve from the Android brand for a while now

magic river
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Android Wear got it too, it's just Wear OS now (and still dead)

vernal moth
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which makes sense

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nothing in google tv is related to android, its a separate product

limber knotBOT
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they also crippled android and moved shit into their proprietary solutions (see email, calender, phone, contacts, messenger, etc)

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webview...

golden gust
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I mean, google tv runs on android?

magic river
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A lot of that was just so they could ship updates for them

vernal moth
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google is moving everything they can out of android to make updating easier

limber knotBOT
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then why aren't they open source still? ;)

golden gust
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technically it's total farce

magic river
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They stopped working so much on the vanilla stuff because updates and modifications were controlled by the OEM

vernal moth
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you even get security updates thru the play store

golden gust
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But, it's not a new thing at all for themto split stuff up

magic river
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I mean, they used to make two versions of everything but they just dropped working on the open ones

vernal moth
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which is understandable

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and like, if ppl liked them, fork them and distribute them yourself 🤷

limber knotBOT
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they could've always just moved the open ones into standalone apps not directly in the android core? instead they chose to do some proprietary bullshit

magic river
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They still put in some work on them, to update them for new APIs and such

limber knotBOT
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but I don't really care, I will never use a Google OS phone ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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as long as they don't kill Lineage I wont complain too much xD

magic river
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Google TV is basically the Pixel of Android TV

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Except they still aren't making TVs

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It started as Google TV, got renamed to Android TV, and now it's effectively back to Google TV because no one uses Android TV

latent valve
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@worn ember dota?

worn ember
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yeah, intellij is being a bitch anyway

latent valve
magic river
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Google Play Movies & TV is now Google TV but it’s not the same Google TV that runs on Android TV on the new Chromecast, it’s an app

limber knotBOT
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isn't Android TV on lots of TV boxes and SmartTVs though?

vernal moth
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LG uses it heavily iirc

magic river
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I thought LG was using webOS

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They bought Palm for it and definitely used it on some models

golden gust
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I recall them doing that but don't recall if they really stuck on with it

magic river
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I still miss webOS even if a lot of the nice things about it got put in Android 4

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It's not an accident that Android 4 is when Android stopped being a pile of shit

limber knotBOT
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yeah, I wish I would've gotten one of the webOS based tablets back then, I actually thought about it :S

magic river
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They hired the guy that designed webOS

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I bought one before the fire sale

vernal moth
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maybe it was phillips

magic river
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And enough before that I couldn't get a refund

vernal moth
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I don't remeber

magic river
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I was all in on webOS

viral hornet
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🥺

golden gust
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Yea, looks like they still use webOS

vernal moth
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yeah I had phillips in mind

golden gust
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they got google assistant in there though

magic river
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I had a Pre+ and a Touchpad and was working on an app

limber knotBOT
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bought a Nexus 7 later on instead as a tablet xD

magic river
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I even had a starter app template on github that was kind of popular for a minute

twin lagoon
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🥺

rare tiger
limber knotBOT
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wat

viral hornet
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wow gibus

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teach me

limber knotBOT
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oh, he abused Discord endpoints with a custom client 👀

vernal moth
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uups

rare tiger
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i didnt use a custom client i just used post lol :/

void void
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Hey btw, how you guys doin?

magic river
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That is a custom client 😛

limber knotBOT
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afaik Ripcord had that functionality at the start but removed it at some point lol

rare tiger
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yeah but im sure you're thinking of a custom client as in like an executable

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i guess it technically is yeah

magic river
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When we switched to mattermost the first thing one coworker did is learn there isn't a limit for how many reactions a post can have and used the console to loop through all possible reactions and add them to a post

limber knotBOT
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nice

rare tiger
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_ _

limber knotBOT
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I assume that crashed the server?

rare tiger
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see you dont need to violate tos to break the chat system c:

magic river
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Nah, handled it fine

limber knotBOT
rare tiger
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ya got me

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its still unintentional tho

magic river
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_ _

rare tiger
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_ _

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magic river
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Meh

vernal moth
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stop it please

magic river
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thinks this is much worse

rare tiger
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nice try bud

magic river
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No, that's what I wanted it to do

rare tiger
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so whats going on there

magic river
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I did a /me that didn't work because Discord is dumb

rare tiger
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i didnt even know this was a thing

magic river
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It just wraps your message in underscores client side and sends the result

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There isn't a special /me message type

vernal moth
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and doesnt work on mobile

rare tiger
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that is pretty dumb

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haha nice

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i put underscores after that and before dumb and did a /me

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so you're right

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discord is truly the apex predator in technological innovation

limber knotBOT
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hm, the only conclusion CTR has lead me to is that I need better cooling for my CPU before I attempt this xD

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maybe using an old 100mm case fan as a CPU fan isn't a good basis for overclocking after all thonk

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do geyser and protocolsupport play nice together?

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probably depends on where they run

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I could imagine that if geyser runs on the proxy/standalone and ps on the paper server that it maybe "works"?

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no proxy, one serbur

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I want all the compats

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lol

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I doubt that it will be compatible then, I guess that they modify the same stuff but ¯_(ツ)_/¯ ask them?

tired heath
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is'nt protocol support something like viva version?

golden gust
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yes

vernal moth
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kinda but not really

tired heath
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Well

restive thicket
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RoboMWM: Yes.

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The conflict was with ProtocolSupport and Floodgate but we fixed that.

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Ofunny: the major difference between PS and ViaBackwards (As ViaVersion is for newer clients and older servers) is that ProtocolSupport uses server methods and VB is more independent allowing it to run on proxies.

vernal moth
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thats what I meant with via vs PS doesnt compare really

restive thicket
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Also ProtocolSupport goes back to 1.4.7 whereas ViaBackwards + ViaRewind only go back to 1.7.10.

vernal moth
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Only ^^

restive thicket
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lol

tired heath
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Okay, except of further backwards comp. what sounds not so interessting and more likely problems with other plugins, are there any real pros for protocol support

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just curious

restive thicket
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I didn't respond as I don't have significant experience with either.

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I have tried both and they both work very well. @tired heath

potent fossil
ashen cliff
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No. Since Pi is wrong, Tau is right.

unkempt drift
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Tau > Pi (in more ways than one)

tired heath
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Listen Blyat > Tau > Pi
Blyat 4xPi

slim nymph
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Her phone bill is apparently 20k a month she says, that's sure alot of pay by phone sex hotlines

potent fossil
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entertainment: 900k/mo

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wtf??

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how do rich people pay so god damn much for things

ashen cliff
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A yes, can't look at that article from Europe.

potent fossil
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lol

ashen cliff
cosmic raft
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– Laundry and cleaning: $10,000 a month
– Clothes: $135,000 a month
– Education (tuition and living expenses): $60,000 a month
– Entertainment: $900,000 a month
– Charitable contributions: $125,000 a month
– Mortgage: $100,000 a month
– Telephone, cell phone, e-mail: $20,000 a month
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waht the fuck

magic river
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You use an iPhone more than one day? What a loser

ashen cliff
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Can't have battery issues if you swap daily.

magic river
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Funnily enough that's not enough to buy one a day

ashen cliff
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It is, if you only count working days.

zealous wedge
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what the fuck

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how

tired heath
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Are thoes IPhones still cool, I thought is some thing of the last decade

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Specially made for boomers to flex on each other

peak dirge
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Telephone, cell phone, e-mail: $20,000 a month
She buys 13 iPhone 11 Pro Maxes per month?!?

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Does she operate her own ISP?!?

potent fossil
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ok but im still wondering how the fuck there is 900K per month for "entertainment"

static badge
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generous rounding at every opportunity

peak dirge
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She must also operate her own email server too.

potent fossil
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and 135K/mo for clothes. i literally spend maybe 500 a year on clothes.

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MAYBE.

peak dirge
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I just use Fastmail because fuck running an email server.

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Also fuck data mining.

limber knotBOT
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Reminder for @vestal jasper: PR readmes to kashike's projects

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Reminder for @void void: PR readmes to kashike's projects

cosmic raft
vestal jasper
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Lol

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7 hours off, you are

zealous wedge
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lol

mighty storm
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v

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person above me is alive

zealous wedge
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it's you

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you're alive

mighty storm
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unfortunately it is true,

zealous wedge
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you mean fortunately?

mighty storm
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it does just does be like it do

mighty storm
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darn I guess I really do be needing to host a repo for this dont i

cosmic raft
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? @mighty storm

mighty storm
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groovy be weird, i cant toss the artifacts to my jenkins maven repo like i can with.. maven projects

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and downloading/installing jar manually is kinda tedious

potent fossil
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you can just use bintray or something if you dont wanna host your own

mighty storm
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i could not for the life of me figure out how to use that

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so confusing

potent fossil
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o.O

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what do you need to host

mighty storm
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this close to just converting it back to maven

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build artifacts lol

potent fossil
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f

mighty storm
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well usually it's all maven

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you got the pom, you got the jar

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hell you got the failing builds

ancient bolt
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someone go comment on a Paper PR or something

potent fossil
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done

ancient bolt
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my notification count didn't move

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damnit github

potent fossil
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o.o

short yarrow
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Do you guys take in memory into account when programming? My co-workers mention memory pretty frequently, but I don't see it as a big issue since the project I'm working on is relatively small anyways

ancient bolt
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uh, yeah depends on what the project is doing

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if memory isn't a constraining factor then it can be okay to use memory-expensive but CPU efficient code

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if you're processing large batch data across many threads, memory becomes much more important to pay attention to

slim nymph
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well is the object you are creating heavy, is the code you are writing in a hot area that will be invoked a lot

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if its light and low volume its pointless to concern over

ancient bolt
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even if it's a hot area, if your code never even gets that hot there's no point in worrying about it

short yarrow
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Okay makes sense

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I don't really hear people mention memory that often unless it becomes a problem. Like I was talking to someone and he wanted to avoid loading a file into memory if possible (file size is only like 500KB)

slim nymph
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well yes theres important things to consider there

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reading a file you can parse line by line is memory scalable to do it as a line by line stream

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trying to read entire file to memory is not scable, what if that file was 500MB?

tired heath
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Your computer has RAM to use it. Not using RAM for the only reason to save memory is plain stupid. But if you can programm your code more performant and memory saving why not. But if you save memory on the cost of performance is dumb

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But you will not get a specific answere to a problem none specific question

short yarrow
#

Yeah that's where I'd become a problem. The person does have to read the entire file since they're creating a data lake. The file would definitely not reach close to that size. The file size will increase but I think it'll only just couple MBs

potent warren
#

bruh

ancient bolt
#

Not using RAM for the reason to save memory is plain stupid
That's a pretty tone-deaf thing to say

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it depends heavily on what exactly the workload is

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and how constrained you are for resources

tired heath
#

I did add only to the sentence

short yarrow
#

Yeah I don't know exactly what their constraints are. I just need to provide a team access to data that we have

tired heath
#

Well the question is: what is your problem that you wanna solve and what are your options.

proven glacier
#

_ _

potent fossil
#

can we not be annoying

#

thanks

zealous wedge
#

nope @potent fossil being annoying is a legal requirement for being on discord

potent fossil
limber knotBOT
#

it's also not coming through on irc

#

i think your irc ded

potent fossil
#

wtf ur not seeing my irc messages? lmao but i saw yours :'(

#

oh im not identified for some reason.

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ok.

limber knotBOT
#

test

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k

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ah that'd explain it

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yeah i can see you now lol

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go set up sasl -.-

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typical simple

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idk how 2 set that shit up but am 2 busy atm

minor badge
#

typical dumb

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🤧

limber knotBOT
#

rude

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.g thelounge sasl auth

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idk wat 2 do o well

ancient bolt
#

damn just finished fallen order

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what a damn good ending

potent fossil
#

ive yet to finish that

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i stopped playing because it seemed like successive puzzles and not much else

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but i paid for it so i'll finish it one of these days

minor badge
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@potent fossil uwu

potent fossil
minor badge
#

wo

mental meadow
#

w

quasi valley
#

w...eeeeeeeb

minor badge
#

noo

zealous wedge
#

www

mossy vessel
#

o

vernal moth
#

Work

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Dum meeting the whole day with 50+ ppl

mossy vessel
#

Sounds fun

zealous wedge
#

eww

vernal moth
#

I am doing this exactly once, because my boss kindly asked me to

worn ember
#

why does that look like Skype

vernal moth
#

So that I can laught in his have the next time he asks me

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It's SFB

potent fossil
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because most corporations use Skype for Business as well as a myriad of other M$ products

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I quite like SFB actually

vernal moth
#

We will eventually switch to teams

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Its just a bunch of work

#

SFB is hosted on premise, which is nice

potent fossil
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As I was leaving my last job, IT was using teams internally but the rest of the company still had SFB (on premise as well) so we had to use both

vernal moth
#

Also, holy shit, current presenter has an animated matrix Firefox theme

potent fossil
#

They may be fully teams by now idk

vernal moth
#

And isn't a dev

potent fossil
#

lol

vernal moth
#

Teams and sfb integrate tho

#

You shouldn't have had to touch sfb

#

IT will be pilot for teams too

potent fossil
#

We were using teams for some agile stuff, I don't exactly remember

vernal moth
#

It's just that we need to get rid of ibm lotus notes first

potent fossil
#

Wait no

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TFS? It wasn't teams

#

unless that's the same thing, idk im very confused now

worn ember
#

SFB? SkypeFaceBook?

potent fossil
#

Skype For Business

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use brain ded

worn ember
#

no thank

potent fossil
#

ur trash

worn ember
potent fossil
#

also ok, we used TFS as our agile platform and im not sure what else TFS. Stands for Team Foundation Server, and is not teams so idk what teams is exactly. TFS is apparently renamed to Azure DevOps Server

vernal moth
#

Isn't TFS dead?

potent fossil
#

guess it is now yea, this was ~feb 2019

vernal moth
#

With all the other visual studio dev stuff

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It's now all azure dev ops

potent fossil
#

i wasnt aware

#

yea that's what i just said

worn ember
#

pretty sure that was swapped out for Teams now

potent fossil
#

meh

#

fuck M$

worn ember
#

Yes

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Teams is nice tho

vernal moth
#

We gonna move all our shit into azure ^^

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Even our fucking mainframe

worn ember
vernal moth
#

We gonna run Cobol in the cloud 😂

worn ember
#

ur mainframe gonna get hackt

vernal moth
#

assuming hackers understand Cobol

worn ember
#

tru

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i have a business meeting later, some power providing company that wants to visualize big data

#

so i wonder how thats gonna go

vernal moth
#

Ah yes

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Big data

#

We got 3tb of ram here for big data

worn ember
#

oof

vernal moth
#

To produce fancy graphs

worn ember
#

yeah thats the end goal

vernal moth
#

10/10 would spend a fortune again

worn ember
#

except im not getting paid a fortune

#

i dont even think i'm getting paid at all

#

#collegelife

vernal moth
#

I think am getting paid below avg here

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Well, considering my age I am not I guess

worn ember
#

ask a raise, ez

vernal moth
#

But compared to Germany overall and the German IT I get more than avg

#

I just got a raise ;)

worn ember
#

ah nice

#

well back to messing with protocol lib, gonna read all the 2 pages of documentation to become an expert

vernal moth
#

I think I should get out of bed and do smth productive

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Aka not hanging in this dum meeting but fixing hangar staging that machine broke tonight

worn ember
#

good luck

potent fossil
#

spotify made a time capsule playlist for me and my god its bopping

worn ember
#

i bet its all anime songs

unkempt drift
#

Ugh, I was stupid. When I setup Linux, I only did 30 GB for that first partition, and the other 950 for my user.

heady spear
#

@mental meadow uwu

mental meadow
#

uwu

twin lagoon
#

uwu

zealous knot
#

uwu

worn ember
#

No.

heady spear
#

yes @worn ember

worn ember
#

wtf dont talk to me

#

except when you want to fix my issues

mossy vessel
#

City what is this

#

Pure laziness

heady spear
#

what

#

what is lazy

#

I need to contribute to hangar so I can get an orange role

zealous knot
#

contribute to acf

heady spear
#

ur funi dude

worn ember
#

@heady spear no

zealous knot
#

@heady spear no

waxen panther
#

buying coloured role

worn ember
#

ew, white name

waxen panther
#

agreed

#

it is disgusting

heady spear
waxen panther
#

weebs 🖐️

twin lagoon
#

bookmarked

#

thx

mossy vessel
#

Your pfp City

minor badge
#

@mossy vessel uwu

mossy vessel
#

uwu

heady spear
#

what so mean smh

mental meadow
#

It's so scary

#

It scares me

heady spear
#

uwu don't be spowked D: am nice

void void
#

Is there any plugins that do crafting warmups? like you craft an item then have to wait x amount of time before it’s “ready”

heady spear
#

awowa can we voice tonite? :3

zealous wedge
#

uwu

mental meadow
#

Sure

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you can always call me city uwu x

void void
#

This discord is amazing

worn ember
#

no

#

its full of eww weebs

heady spear
#

ur a eww weeb

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also merry spookmas @worn ember

worn ember
#

i dont celebrate that

void void
#

Oh shit today is October that’s great

worn ember
#

but if you want to give me candy, sure

void void
#

Isn’t watch dogs coming out soon

heady spear
#

yes

void void
#

I’ll give you some candy

heady spear
#

am kinda hyped

void void
#

It’ll be the best candy you’ve ever had

#

That’s tomorrow right?

#

Or what’s releasing tomorrow

cedar spade
#

Watch Dogs is in 3 weeks iirc?

void void
#

Crash bandicoot and Star Wars

cedar spade
#

4 weeks

worn ember
#

ah yes Starwars, that series everyone manages to fuck up

chrome quest
#

Why can’t we turn logs into paper? Why must it be sugarcane?

cedar spade
#

sUsTaInAbIlItY

worn ember
heady spear
#

what

cedar spade
#

what

worn ember
#

yes

chrome quest
#

Looks like you have internet problems.

worn ember
#

no it looks like i have city removed my role problems

heady spear
#

what server is that channel in?

worn ember
#

IS

heady spear
#

dunno tf ur on about

#

no?

void void
#

You’re exposing the secret channel

worn ember
#

there used to be #secret channel

#

smhh

void void
#

Keep it a fucking secret

worn ember
#

nein

#

i demand answers

void void
#

holographicdisplays is still hip for holograms right or is there something better

wide chasm
#

Not that I know of

#

Seems to be the de facto still

heady spear
#

I didn't wemowe uw wole D:

#

someone else did

void void
#

stop

worn ember
#

wow

#

find the traitor sad_pepe

heady spear
#

u k great way to get hacktoberfest PRs is to PR parsers to cloud :3

void void
#

Hate darkeyedragon, all my homies hate darkeyedragon

worn ember
#

just find projects that use adventure and update audience to sender

wide chasm
#

PR 42: delete this

worn ember
#

since they didnt bump version lol

void void
#

Do you guys know a good solution for removing entities and mobs on not loaded chunks? I used clearlagg but clearlagg seems to be broken for 1.16.3

wide chasm
#

Think I'm still on an old version anyway, so not an issue :)

void void
#

my problem is that sometimes I have like 1000 mobs somewhere on the server xD

zealous knot
#

That moment when you have 1000 mobs on your server ecksdee

worn ember
#

just dab till they die

void void
#

God damn it

#

Holographicdisplays doesn’t work on 1.16.3

#

xD

#

Problem is that somehow they keep doing shit also if nobody is around

worn ember
#

if they're not in ticking range they shouldnt

void void
#

yea I thought the same but they slow down the server

#

xD

#

I also do not understand how they spawn so quickly

#

when I use killall mobs in an area

#

It only takes like 10 sec for everything to respawn

#

also entities spawn quickly

#

But I lowered the max spawn in the paper.yml and the other configs

#

or maybe i did a mistake mmh will look at this again

worn ember
#

if a lot of chunks are loaded a lot of mobs will spawn

#

1k mobs isn't all that much

zealous knot
#

Man

#

discord is just something else

#

They posted a reminder to vote on instagram and like 80% of the comments were people telling them to not get involved in that shit and they doubled down

#

jfc

worn ember
vestal jasper
minor badge
#

thats good tbh

#

theyre not sharing political views, just encouraging participation

void void
#

@worn ember I mean it is not much yea but I am curious how they can spawn although I never was on that spot xD

#

And the server is in maintenance mode so nobody except me can join hehe

worn ember
#

@minor badge ok but why do i care about votes in america? at least make it regional

#

idk tbh

void void
#

This is a platform for gaming and not for political orientations

#

If I want politics I go to the townhall

#

xD

worn ember
#

^that tbh, does windows ask me to go vote? i dont think so, does my smart tv ask me to go vote? Nope. So why should discord tell me to go vote?

cosmic raft
void void
#

yea true

#

xD I just want to play haha

cosmic raft
#

Move the politics chat there or drop it, thanks

void void
#

man? r u serious

cosmic raft
#

no, I am kashike

void void
#

we said to put it there

#

start to read

worn ember
#

thonkeng be nice to kash smh

void void
#

hehe then he should start reading

#

xD

cosmic raft
#

I can read, but the conversation continued on

void void
#

Can you take the stick out of your...

#

?

serene bolt
#

_>

mossy vessel
heady spear
#

Can you take your self out of paper

#

if we're discussing potential improvements, that's a pretty good one

cosmic raft
#

?warn @void void be a bit nicer, would you? thanks.

leaden oxideBOT
#

dynoSuccess Tyeodor#3585 has been warned. || be a bit nicer, would you? thanks.

zealous knot
vernal moth
#

Work be like

worn ember
#

those are some fat fries

vernal moth
#

*wedges

#

Literally just cut potatoes in 4 slices and called it a day

#

Do I look like I put effort into cooking?

mossy vessel
#

Cooking is fun

vernal moth
#

eating is more fun

#

but yeah, thats one of the many good things corona did to me

#

am now a passable cook

minor badge
#

we call those potato boats

viral hornet
#

@twin lagoon

#

pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

twin lagoon
#

🥺

worn ember
#

i can cook noodles and put lasagna in the oven with a 90% success rate

minor badge
#

@viral hornet uwu

viral hornet
#

@minor badge uwu

minor badge
#

🥺

chrome quest
#

If you keep doing that with your fingers they'll end up short and stubby.

zealous wedge
mental meadow
cedar spade
#

I can put frozen chicken portions in the oven with a 90% success rate

zealous wedge
#

nice

cedar spade
#

hey I boiled rice for the first time and it was nice

#

I can also put frozen fries in the oven with an 80% success rate

mossy vessel
#

Make sure to not burn your kitchen, this sounds difficult

twin lagoon
#

@viral hornet uwu

#

@minor badge uwu

#

@mental meadow uwu

vestal jasper
#

wow no uwu for zml

#

@zealous wedge uwu

zealous wedge
#

@vestal jasper uwu
@twin lagoon uwu

cunning raft
#

yo mods can we add "uwu" to the spam filter

#

being seeing a lot of spam bots spread it

vestal jasper
#

yeah any message that doesn't contain an "uwu" needs to be filtered out thanks, uwu

zealous wedge
#

you don't even have a role uwu

cunning raft
#

think it should be instant ban if message contains "uwu"

zealous wedge
#

yeah, starting from that message ^

cunning raft
zealous wedge
#

and ending right at this message

vestal jasper
#

well congrats you should be banned as well JRoy

cunning raft
#

i have the best role

zealous wedge
#

sure

vestal jasper
cunning raft
cedar spade
#

biggest taco fan is best role

#

I have all the pretty colours

vestal jasper
#

purr best role

worn pasture
#

uwu

vestal jasper
#

@worn pasture uwu

worn pasture
#

UWU

cedar spade
#

ew woo

zealous wedge
#

uwu :3

heady spear
#

@mossy vessel owo xoxo 😽

zealous wedge
#

we need to get eli into here

mossy vessel
#

@heady spear uwu

worn ember
#

who?

minor badge
#

@cedar spade mr pinapl

#

pls uwu for us

worn ember
#

dont do it

minor badge
#

pinapl please

worn ember
#

its a trap

zealous wedge
#

uwu

worn ember
#

shhhh

mental meadow
#

uwu

cedar spade
#

yew double yew yew

zealous wedge
#

@mental meadow uwu :3

quasi valley
#

InventoryCloseEvent does not fire after closing player inventory

wary lynx
#

Didn't say uwu animatedban

mental meadow
#

Kneny has a doctor's note that exempts him from the rule bc he's allergic to uwu

mighty storm
#

The patch system but for discord

#

big brain

#

Oh no proxi has weeb pfp

quasi valley
minor badge
#

wh

#

it's super cute

mossy vessel
cunning raft
#

tf

mighty storm
#

dang

#

@minor badge but it's WEEB PFP, by law it's no good

limber knotBOT
#

wtf

minor badge
#

anime is fun

#

why is there no minecraft cow in super smash bros i want minecraft cow

cunning raft
slim nymph
#

@quasi valley really spigot reintroduced a bug lol, we decided to not "fix" that

limber knotBOT
#

tbh I would've expected that on april, not october 1st lol

quasi valley
#

amazing haha

slim nymph
#

what that ticket was complaining about was the event not firing for a packet response

#

you dont fire open events for player inventory, so why would you fire close?

#

its all handled client side

#

man it seems google failed hardcore with the pixel 5

limber knotBOT
#

wait the client sends a packet for the close but not the open? thonk

slim nymph
#

why are they sabotaging themselves so hard

quasi valley
#

clientside inv is basically magic

slim nymph
#

yes, because you always have a player inventory in client memory

#

its just showing it

#

but generic close operation sends close packet, that server then does nothing

#

because current container == default

limber knotBOT
#

pixel 5 is bezle-less, that's obviously a win!

slim nymph
#

pixel 5 lost many pixel special features...

#

AI Core, active edge, face unlock, something called soli i have no idea what it is

minor badge
#

want me to open a PR with the fix reintroduced, aikar?

limber knotBOT
#

sounds like unnecessary fluff to me

vernal moth
#

Soli is the hand gesture thing nobody uses

limber knotBOT
#

runs

vernal moth
#

I mean, it was a totally fun party trick

slim nymph
#

nah its fine to keep in sync w/ spigot

vernal moth
#

Then I disabled it

slim nymph
#

just no reason to desync is the point

#

it doesnt hurt to fire it specially since people use it, just "odd"

vernal moth
#

Being able to wave over your phone when it's on a table to change music definitely impressed friends

limber knotBOT
#

I wish instead of making the screen larger they would've kept the original screen size and made the body smaller :S

slim nymph
#

lol really

vernal moth
#

Active edge is the squeezing the phone to open Assistant or whatever

#

Face unlock you could argue is usless thanks to covid 😂

#

AI core is just some hardware ML stuff

#

They never used it in the 3 iirc

#

And not at launch for 4 or smth

#

I don't remember

limber knotBOT
#

oh wow, the battery is 4080mAh Oo

vernal moth
#

Idk, generally the just totally adjusted the way they market the phone, it's a different target sector

#

They not really a flagship anymore

#

They just wanna build a really good upper range phone

#

That appeals to everyone

limber knotBOT
#

yeah, they seem to have downgraded the CPU and GPU thonk

#

(compared to the 4)

vernal moth
#

Dum down the phone, but don't make compromises for screen, camera and battery, things which are the most important to actual users

#

I mean, I dig it

limber knotBOT
#

if only the price would reflect it lol

vernal moth
#

Just not gonna buy it since it's not really an upgrade to the 4xl am holding rn

#

I mean, it's cheaper than the old XLs if you wanna compare it to that

#

And the price isn't bad

limber knotBOT
#

maybe it's just me but I will never pay over 200 for a phone xD

vernal moth
#

But now it's a phone for my mom or my non techie friends

limber knotBOT
#

meh, why is it so annoying to delete cloud save data from steam -.-

#

ah, interestingly its on a per-game basis thonk

tawny stream
#

I still don't get why there are so many variants of mc server; official, craftbukkit, spigot, sponge, paper, forge ... Why is this?

limber knotBOT
#

because they do different things

mighty storm
#

technically just vanilla, craftbukkit, sponge, forge, fabric everything else is either a fork of one of these

limber knotBOT
#

poor forge

mighty storm
#

ok irc user

limber knotBOT
#

whats so poor about forge

#

Always being forgotten

quasi valley
#

forge itself

#

:kappa:

limber knotBOT
#

"technically just vanilla, craftbukkit, sponge, forge, fabric everything else is either a fork of one of these"

#

btw you forgot fabric too

#

doesnt seem forgotten to me

slim nymph
#

i hate the phone has a 100 upcharge in the US even for people who dont need 5G

limber knotBOT
#

at least from my discord counterpart

quasi valley
#

irc users not seing edits

limber knotBOT
#

not mentioning cannary

mighty storm
#

thats an mbax/spigot problem

quasi valley
#

chew switching from discord to irc mid conversation

mighty storm
#

"switching

limber knotBOT
#

hmod is dead

mighty storm
#

we're 2 different people

limber knotBOT
#

how dare u compare me to her

quasi valley
#

irc chew, discord chew is clearly superior to you

tawny stream
#

what different things? 🤔

mighty storm
#

im not

limber knotBOT
#

how am i superior? at least i am productive with my time

slim nymph
#

no, kenny said you are inferior to the @mighty storm

limber knotBOT
#

i am not inferior

mighty storm
#

oh yeah? why isnt your name pink then

slim nymph
#

i like discord chew better

limber knotBOT
#

same

mighty storm
#

wtf why

tawny stream
#

I mean, what's the difference between craftbukkit and spigot?

slim nymph
#

one is unsupported, the other is

mighty storm
#

spigot is a fork of craftbukkit, so "differences" are additions/fixes provided by spigot

tawny stream
vestal jasper
#

mfw

hi I have issue with plogen, says internal error in chat
"can you provide logs / the error in console?"
no I don't have console access

mighty storm
#

oh do NOT use that site

slim nymph
#

dunno, dont use that site

mighty storm
#

illegal as heck

#

and extremely outdated, pick your poison

slim nymph
#

well, its not illegal to end user, just the site owner is doing something 'more illegal'

mighty storm
#

they just need some Spigotclip

slim nymph
#

but to the end user, its not an official source, no guarantee its safe

tawny stream
#

@mighty storm why?

mighty storm
#

why what

tawny stream
#

why do not use that site

mighty storm
#

we gave reasons

slim nymph
#

it could have a virus, its not official

mighty storm
#

high risk, low reward, likely extremely outdated

slim nymph
#

paper can be downloaded from our site easier than that site

tawny stream
#

and what about sponge and forge?

slim nymph
#

download from their sites

#

@rotund urchin 😛

mighty storm
mossy vessel
#

o fancy

slim nymph
#

got it from 2016 minecon

rotund urchin
#

Heh

slim nymph
#

spent $1000~ to hang out with sponge team lol ; ;

#

oh wait i did go to disney too, so i guess that

rotund urchin
#

Just $1000? You got away with robbery

mighty storm
#

mfw having money

slim nymph
#

ok prob a bit more for base price, maybe 1500~ for base excluding food and such

#

we rented a house split over like 8 people

woeful hull
#

I got only 1 question right now.

Is 1.16.3 looking to be the final release of 1.16 ?

vernal moth
#

Nobody knows

#

But likely

#

They will start with snapshots for 1.17 soon

normal phoenix
#

can anyone give me link to paper 1.16.2

#

cuz 1.16.3 doesnt work

#

paper 1.16.3 is legit broken for me

#

noone can join

vernal moth
mighty storm
#

in what way does it not work, shouldnt your solution be fix it instead of give up completely

slim nymph
#

how about instead of downgrading, tell us what the issue is so we can help you fix it

normal phoenix
#

look

#

noone can join

vestal jasper
#

I suggest trying to fix the issues you have rather than trying to bodge an improper fix

normal phoenix
#

and console commands dont work

novel horizon
#

besides after using 1.16.3 you can't use older version

normal phoenix
#

everyone gets timed out

slim nymph
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however 1.16.3 was a super minor update

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you likely have some plugin needing an update

normal phoenix
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nope

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all latest

mighty storm
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sounds like something beyond paper, regardless, #paper-help

novel horizon
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then your plugins are bad

slim nymph
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then drop some plugins to find who is the culprit

normal phoenix
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i was using spigot 1.16.2 beforehand

woeful hull
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double, triple, quadruple check.

normal phoenix
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and everything worked

woeful hull
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I've used paper for a good while, it has always seemed to be an error on my side; not paper.

slim nymph
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whatever it is, its a fixable problem, just work through it in #paper-help

vernal moth
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There are literally like 10 lines changed in the update

mighty storm
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markdown or matt daemon

quasi valley
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but then again, that's on you if you fail on such an update as a plugin dev

normal phoenix
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can anyone help me in dm

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i can explain everything

quasi valley
mighty storm
magic river
vestal jasper
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Regarding the guy in #paper-help

for me and my friends to play on
Why do you need a cracked version of a ban plugin if it's just for you and your friends

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why would you even need to ban your friends

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just whitelist and call it good lol

magic river
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You know, all his friends that give him money for super pickaxe

slim nymph
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he left vic

vestal jasper
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ik

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just questioning his... interesting decisions

stray oyster
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wen eta first 1.17 snapshot

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👀

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minecon is on saturday afaik

mighty storm
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Minecraft live*

upper flicker
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wannabe-minecon-wishes-it-was-minecon-live

worn ember
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Dewdicawted wam

slim nymph
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how is it any different than minecon of the past, why the name change

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i guess due to con being associated with physical presence?

worn ember
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Bruh. I went to talk to an it guy at an energy selling firm and boy. They have so much data and graphs. They even have models to predict weather patterns for solar and wind. Along with real time energy production

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This is heaven

slim nymph
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hey @unreal quarry you doing good ?

tawny stream
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@slim nymph yes, I know that I must use their sites, but I mean, what are they for?

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what are their differences?

heady spear
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@mental meadow wyd

vernal moth
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the differnece is that some shady random decided to upload something for his own gain (since they have ads and sponsors)

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instead of the projects providing their software to you directly

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they steal traffic basically, and threaten your security

vestal jasper
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And don't even make an attempt to not redistribute other people's work / code

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Or ya know not redist Mojang stuff

tawny stream
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@vernal moth also forge?

vernal moth
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yes

magic river
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Forge and Fabric are for mods. CraftBukkit, Spigot, and Paper are for plugins to run servers.

vernal moth
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forge in particular is pissed at such sites, since lex relies on ad money and patreon to live

tawny stream
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lex?

potent fossil
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maintainer of forge, LexManos

tawny stream
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oh

magic river
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Chain is CraftBukkit->Spigot->Paper. Something meant to run on CraftBukkit should work on all of them but something meant to run on Paper won't work on the other two

potent fossil
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unless they touch NMS

tawny stream
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what's NMS?

potent fossil
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sadness

vestal jasper
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No man's sky

tawny stream
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lol

magic river
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The whole reason Paper isn't a rewrite based on better mappings is to keep compatibility with things that do use NMS

potent fossil
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NMS is the internal server code that people aren't supposed to touch but they do anyway because for some things it's necessary