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vernal moth
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I think we can all agree that nobody should use php and node.js

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worn ember
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not a fan of js just because of the fact its not type safe, TS solves a lot of those issues

alpine urchin
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o hi

worn ember
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👋

limber knotBOT
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The NPM ecosystem is more of a PITA on Windows than the Maven one

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(gradle is using the same ecosystem, just a different build tool)

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You're way more likely to run in to modules that are Linux only or Linux+macOS on NPM and a lot of the surrounding tooling seems like it only works on Linux because that's what their CI and servers use, otherwise it'd be macOS only

vernal moth
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Well, that's why sane ppl only use that ecosystem for fronted stuff, where it's much less likely to run into such issues

limber knotBOT
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I don't know how good node's built in file watching is these days but back in the day it was complete garbage and the only widely supported and well functioning replacement only worked on macOS

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Because file watching was pretty much always just used for the --watch mode on dev tools and people only used that on macOS

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Also hi, I'm a full stack TypeScript developer who used to develop on macOS but moved to Linux this year :P

vernal moth
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We use watch for webpack/Vue cli for hangar here without issues on multiple platforms

limber knotBOT
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I think JS/TS on the backend makes more sense than Python or Ruby

vernal moth
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I use win10

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The one undeniable advantage is that you can use the same language, tools and libs for back and frontend

rotund wedge
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didn't recommend js over java

limber knotBOT
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Yeah I think these days --watch works everywhere but is just less efficient

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But I haven't looked in to it to say for sure

rotund wedge
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also getting into java

vernal moth
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Everything files is inefficient on windows 😂

rotund wedge
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on windows

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is a workaround

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since you have to setup the global variables

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yourself

vernal moth
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No you don't, if you use the installer, just like on any OS, lol

rotund wedge
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for the jdk?

vernal moth
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If you just download the binaries in Linux you gotta setup your env vars yourself too

limber knotBOT
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Do you still have to define JAVA_HOME yourself when you install the JDK? I thought that was fixed in JDK 6 or so

vernal moth
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Yeah if you install it via msi it will do everything for you

worn ember
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they set it themself now if you use the installer

rotund wedge
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really

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i didn't know that

limber knotBOT
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It's okay, that was only a decade ago ;)

vernal moth
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It's just that not everybody uses the installer

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I dont, I also have 10 different jdks on my PC, so there's that 😂

rotund wedge
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also don't like eclipse nor intellij

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and oracle sucks in general

vernal moth
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Well, java != Oracle

rotund wedge
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oracle bought it

limber knotBOT
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IntelliJ is one of the best IDEs for any language

vernal moth
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Java is gpl

limber knotBOT
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But efficiently writing Java does seem to lean more heavily on an IDE

rotund wedge
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also java has such a big community

limber knotBOT
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I feel like I used to be fairly productive with Python and C with just vim, gedit, etc but for Java I needed an IDE

rotund wedge
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then why is everybody you find on youtube for java, indian

limber knotBOT
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Although that might just be because due to not having an IDE I learned those languages better and for Java I just lean on the IDE to remember things for me

vernal moth
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Yeah, I bet you would be more productive once you learned clion and pycharm

limber knotBOT
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I do Python things in VSCode or IntelliJ these days so... close enough?

rotund wedge
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i did java only in my first 2 semesters in university, immediately moved to js after i was allowed to code in whatever language i want

limber knotBOT
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CLion only works with cmake which makes it useless for most projects

vernal moth
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Fairly sure that was changed

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Clion has been getting bunch of love recently

worn ember
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back in my day

limber knotBOT
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I definitely have to lean on the IDE intellisense or have to dig in the documentation every time I do Python these days so yeah, I think I just never had to memorize Java things so I just didn't

rotund wedge
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also

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why not use Kotlin

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less code

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same performance

limber knotBOT
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This is a good point, unless you have file size concerns you should just always use Kotlin

cosmic raft
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I don't like kotlin :p

limber knotBOT
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And let's be honest, you're writing in the JVM ecosystem, file size isn't a concern

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Oh, and proguard can probably strip out most of the overhead from shading the kotlin stdlib

rotund wedge
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and almost no more NullPointerExceptions

void void
cosmic raft
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I will continue to use Java instead of Kotlin for all my stuff

unkempt drift
void void
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lombok

vernal moth
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If you have tons issues with NPEs, I would question your ability as a dev, not suggest you to use a different language

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Lombok is worse than kotlin

minor badge
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kotlin is cool but why switch? java too works fine

limber knotBOT
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lombok is also a different language, it just doesn't change as much

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Avoiding NPEs with Java requires a lot of wasted cycles on defensive coding or annotations and tools that understand them which is also basically another language

minor badge
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or just sane nullability annotations to begin with

limber knotBOT
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I just said annotations as one of the two options?

minor badge
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if i do smth and the method goes "YOO this is @Nullable", theres no wasted cycles nor "basically another language"

limber knotBOT
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javac doesn't care about your annotations though, java+nullability annotations requires a different tool

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Anyway, what would be even more useful is a JVM language that has a readonly type modifier so you can pass a Foo to something expecting a readonly Foo and know that there is no copy made but that thing can't modify what you passed to it

jovial dew
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PaperMC is dummy thicc

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Just sayin'

unkempt drift
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dang, did discord just recently add this view server as role thing?

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super nice for testing permissions

wide chasm
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Pretty recent, yes

vernal moth
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PaperMC is dummy thicc
@jovial dew mmh?

ashen kettle
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UwU

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i am chips packet.

twin lagoon
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k

quasi valley
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can't you see michale, he's one of yours

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a fellow weebster

warm anchor
peak dirge
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I've seen a lot of people with JVM crashes and a lot of them probably have bad memory

olive garden
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he is <3

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How do you know it's new?

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it's not listed under recent :(

vernal moth
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its 3 days old

zealous knot
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Shut up triggery

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My name jeff

olive garden
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get off Discord and serve the customers @zealous knot

zealous knot
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i got a day off loser

slim nymph
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@vernal moth why you hatin on nodejs

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node with a modern env is really a pleasure to work in, its my satisfaction at day job

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I have our code almost looking the same as java lol

zealous knot
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agreed

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node is epic

vernal moth
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I have our code almost looking the same as java lol
might as well just use java then ^^

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but it was mostly a joke, even modern php code can look good

slim nymph
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yeah you cant introduce java into a large team of people who dont know java and an operations team that doesnt know how to deploy or manage java

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that would be the biggest introduction of a SPOF the company could do

zealous knot
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Now you made me wanna write some node

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thanks

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you've made me productive

olive garden
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you haven't been productive in like the last 2 years

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I don't have my hopes up for you just yet

zealous knot
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You haven't been productive in your entire 13 year long life

olive garden
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fuck, I have been exposed

mighty storm
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Node is icky and gross unironically

zealous knot
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Aikar can you say something smart in retaliation ^

slim nymph
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chews prob talking about some internal java class like Map.Node

potent fossil
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my coffee needs to brew a whole lot faster than it is rn

slim nymph
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greatness takes time

void void
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chew you know what's gross

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ruby

potent fossil
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^

void void
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fuck ruby all my homies hate ruby

slim nymph
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do people even still use ruby for new code bases

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if so, i question their mentality

void void
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:pepelaugh:

potent fossil
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chew does kekw

slim nymph
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like, im not aware of a single thing ruby is stronger than alternatives for?

void void
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yeah might as well use python

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or if you really insist on using ruby syntax, use crystal

stiff yarrow
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Talking about Pokémon? Kappa

void void
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no u pokemon nerd

potent fossil
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wow thats annoying

stiff yarrow
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Ruby on Rails wasn’t as good as Kanto region

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Damn is discord getting more aggressive about pushing nitro now

void void
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yeah i don't even have nitro classic available anymore lel

potent fossil
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^ they are A/B testing that. i fucking hate them

void void
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right

stiff yarrow
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alright discord went corporate

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Let’s build the alternative quick

void void
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might as well use irc

potent fossil
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discord was the alternative

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let's just go back lmao

limber knotBOT
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Matrix 👀

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you can easily build a client that provides the same experience as discord on top of matrix

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element.io's communities are close but not yet there

potent fossil
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last time i used matrix it was unusable, could be because the homeserver or whatever they call it just wasnt managed properly or smth idk

void void
limber knotBOT
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it was never unusable to me lol

void void
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but setting up your own homeserver is what you should do

limber knotBOT
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when did you use it, before they publically announced the project? xD

void void
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to get usable matrix experience

potent fossil
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i tried matrix.org and owo's matrix servers and they were fucking terrible unusable pieces of shit

void void
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message sends in like 30 seconds

limber knotBOT
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what part of it? because I never had issues lol

void void
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e v e r y t h i n g

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set up my own homeserver, everything works ok

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except more homeservers try to connect with mine, more slower it gets

limber knotBOT
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maybe they just didn't get hit as hard at certain times thonk

zealous knot
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thelounge is pretty neat

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tbh

void void
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also launching it with sqlite db is worst thing you could ever do

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even with 2-3 users

limber knotBOT
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I mean... that's kinda expected if you use sqlite

void void
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with 2-3 users >_>

zealous knot
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yeah you should use sqheavy

void void
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on sqlite it was slow as a snail; on postgres... well it's a turtle

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better but not too much

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at least it can handle 20 users and 300+ servers federating with it ok

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

limber knotBOT
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really depends on the server implementation I guess. last I heard some people were working on some alternatives

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if I understand it correctly the original implementation was basically just a proof of concept for the protocol and shit xD

slim nymph
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sqlite is fine for reads, its performance will depend on your write behavior

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however they are working on concurrent writes too

zealous knot
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just use redis smh

limber knotBOT
void void
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i run synapse

limber knotBOT
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I guess for actual usage that's the safest one to run atm xD

slim nymph
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um, redis is not a database

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so redis is not a replacement lol

potent fossil
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but it has the ability to sync to disk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /s

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or flush to disk whatever, finally got my coffee

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brain will be on soon

zealous knot
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what's redis' definition then? K/V storage

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?

potent fossil
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in memory datastore not really for persistence so i guess like short lived K/V storage. but it also does message brokering and some other stuff

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ephemeral is the word i was looking for

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ephemeral data

zealous knot
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ephemeral meaning it doesn't persist?

potent fossil
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well, ephemeral data is data that's entirely ok to lose, like a cache or something

zealous knot
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But

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discord use Cassandra thonk

potent fossil
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isnt that apache's nosql thing

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.g cassandra db

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Cassandra -- Apache Cassandra - Wikipedia: "Apache Cassandra is a free and open-source, distributed, wide column store, NoSQL database management system designed to handle large amounts of..."

Apache Cassandra is a free and open-source, distributed, wide column store, NoSQL database management system designed to handle large amounts of data across many commodity servers, providing high availability with no single point of failure. Cassandra offers robust support fo...

potent fossil
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that's far away from what redis is

zealous knot
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oh

autumn magnet
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When you do freelance, what's the nicest way of asking the customer for an alternative payment method

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I'm not old enough to use PayPal and my parents discourage me from using it, but instead I have Cash App, Venmo, etcetera

potent fossil
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"I'm not able to use PayPal but I can use <alternatives>. Please let me know which works best for you."

autumn magnet
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I don't have very good communication skills

potent fossil
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short answer don't ask, tell. if they can't, then you can't do the job. cut the contract

autumn magnet
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Ok thanks, are you simpleauthority by the way?

potent fossil
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yes

autumn magnet
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Awesome I've seen you on Spigot before

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Nice to meet you

potent fossil
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cool, nice to meet you too

autumn magnet
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short answer don't ask, tell. if they can't, then you can't do the job. cut the contract
@potent fossil Yeah I just feel bad for like accepting the job and making them close off you know

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There could have been other freelancers worth a shot that they turned down because they accepted me

potent fossil
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yep in the future don't accept before you've discussed how payment will be handled

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that should be point numero uno

autumn magnet
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Yeah we discussed that it would be 50% and 50%, but then they just asked for my PayPal email

potent fossil
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Yeah, unfortunately if you don't pre-specify which provider you plan to use paypal is almost the default especially in the US, so if you can't use it you need to put that on the table as soon as possible in the convo

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btw Venmo is paypal :p

autumn magnet
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I thought they were just owned by PayPal

potent fossil
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i mean, same idea right?

limber knotBOT
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say that you can only accept crypto currencies due to your ideological believes /s

autumn magnet
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Yeah I think so, I don't really know

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I'm not allowed to use PayPal but I can use Venmo

twin lagoon
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if you can't accept paypal, i wouldn't freelance in the mc community

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i've only had 2 clients pay me with cryptocurrency ever

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hundreds of other payments with paypal

autumn magnet
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What about just in general?

limber knotBOT
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yeah, unfortunately most stuff is on paypal. sucks because their fees are insane but most wont do crypto so its the only way to get money from a country on the other side of the world

twin lagoon
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outside of the mc community or in general, bank transfers

potent fossil
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freelancing outside of the MC community has always been wire transfers directly into my bank account

limber knotBOT
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but I had people pay in BTC, LTC and Ethereum before so it does happen ¯_(ツ)_/¯

potent fossil
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but paypal is extremely prolific in this community ;p

autumn magnet
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I wish I could use bitcoin lol

limber knotBOT
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nothing stopping you, lol

autumn magnet
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Don't you have to be over 18?

twin lagoon
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getting bitcoin is hard

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bitcoin itself is decentralized

limber knotBOT
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bitcoin doesn'T care

twin lagoon
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there is no goverment behind it

potent fossil
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there's no age limit on crypto

twin lagoon
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there is no age limit

limber knotBOT
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crypto is just internet cash

potent fossil
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(any crypto)

twin lagoon
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getting bitcoin however or exchanging it into fiat currency is near impossible under 18

potent fossil
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what might have an age limit is the trading sites

limber knotBOT
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(of course obtaining it can be hard if you are under 18)

twin lagoon
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unless you know someone

potent fossil
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but the wallet itself is open

autumn magnet
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It was asking for identity and stuff

limber knotBOT
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before covid you could always buy it with cash

twin lagoon
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like i said, exchanging is near impossible under 18

cyan nova
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there is no age limit
true but most exchanges have Know Your Customer policy and I doubt many people in the mc community would have crypto wallets due to that

twin lagoon
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due to laws and regulations

cunning raft
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trading sites operating in the US require you to be 18 for anti-terrorism laws

twin lagoon
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in the EU aswell

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and probably asia

limber knotBOT
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if one is serious about crypto then they wont use big exchanges anyways

twin lagoon
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if you want to exchange fiat to crypto, ask someone to do it for you

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they will if they want fiat

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lmao

limber knotBOT
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I still have untainted coins lying around for the eventually that I need it

potent fossil
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im pretty sure it's 18 as well in Philippines however crypto is only used by tech enthusiasts there. anyone else would not even consider it at this point

cyan nova
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Should be using mixers or monero and then convert but then you lose the amount of fees

autumn magnet
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Where do I get one of the bitcoin addresses without being 18?

limber knotBOT
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freshly mined is always best imo ;)

autumn magnet
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And is it literally just like an online wallet? How do I use it to buy things, etc

limber knotBOT
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r​en​eg​ad​e: you download a wallet (e.g. electrum)

autumn magnet
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I don't really know much else

twin lagoon
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renegade, you're not really going to find any use for bitcoin

potent fossil
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the store has to support crypto

twin lagoon
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you cannot exchange it into fiat without someone exchanging it for you

limber knotBOT
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and no, you should not use online wallets, use a local one and store your restoration seed offline

twin lagoon
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and most stores do not accept it

autumn magnet
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What's fiat?

twin lagoon
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$

limber knotBOT
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otherwise your shiut is going to get stolen

twin lagoon
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actual currency you can use

autumn magnet
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I thought bitcoin was money

limber knotBOT
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fiat is government issued currency

twin lagoon
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yes but most people don't accept bitcoin

potent fossil
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if it doesn't you have to sell the crypto for fiat (backed by physical stuff i.e. gold like USD) then use the fiat currency

autumn magnet
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Ah ok

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What can you use bitcoin for without having to exchange it into fiat?

limber knotBOT
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USD is not backed by gold lmao

twin lagoon
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trading

potent fossil
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fiat does not mean gov issued, it means backed by physical commodity

autumn magnet
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Uhh

peak dirge
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buttcorn

autumn magnet
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You trade bitcoin with other people's bitcoin?

twin lagoon
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yes

peak dirge
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here we go again...

twin lagoon
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it's a currency

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it has a value that changes rapidly

peak dirge
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crypto is pepe_run

potent fossil
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oh wait do i have that literally completely backwards

twin lagoon
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1 bitcoin is like $10000, the other day it's $11000 or $9000

limber knotBOT
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technically it's a signed token and due to its nature some people give it value

potent fossil
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yea ignore me i had that sentence entirely wrong

limber knotBOT
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Fiat money is a currency (a medium of exchange) established as money, often by government regulation, but that does not have intrinsic value (value independent of the nominal value, such as a precious metal might have). Fiat money does not have use value (inherent utility, suc...

potent fossil
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yup, was just reading that

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already acknowledged my fault ;)

limber knotBOT
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:)

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pasted it before reading what you wrote lol

autumn magnet
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Hmm ok

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So I looked it up

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Apparently you can use bitcoin for a lot more than trading

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In my country at least

twin lagoon
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of course

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and there's more than bitcoin

autumn magnet
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What else is there?

twin lagoon
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ethereum, monero, litecoin, whatever

autumn magnet
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How do these even start?

limber knotBOT
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lots of other coins using the same basic concept with slightly different mathematical algos

autumn magnet
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Oh bitcoin is the most value out of all the internet currencies then?

twin lagoon
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a lot of those coins are ERC-20 tokens on the ethereum network

limber knotBOT
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someone creates the

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you can literally just start your own by forking the program on github etc. and changing the values

autumn magnet
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Wow, what the hell is a Yearn.finance

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It's worth more than bitcoin

limber knotBOT
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that's how most were created (and failed)

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it really depends on how good your coin's features and your marketing skills are whether or not one succedes

autumn magnet
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Well

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What kind of marketing skills?

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What did ethereum do to get popular?

limber knotBOT
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some companies also use it as an alternative to traditional stock in order to gather money from "investors"

autumn magnet
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What's the benefits of using ethereum over bitcoin

twin lagoon
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ethereum is faster

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can execute smart contracts

autumn magnet
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What is a smart contract?

twin lagoon
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.g ethereum smart contracts

limber knotBOT
cyan nova
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if you can't mine then keep an eye out for airdrops. A lot of the new cryptos will occasionally add small ammounts to random wallet addresses to jump start their network and get people interested

twin lagoon
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airdrops KEKWHYPER

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got $4k 2 weeks ago for free

limber knotBOT
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well, bitcoin can do the same. it's just that ethereum started with the goal of being fast and enabling smart contracts from the beginning

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bitcoin is just the oldest and most "stable" of them all

autumn magnet
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How'd you do that?

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I want $4k 2 weeks ago for free

twin lagoon
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.g uniswap airdrop

limber knotBOT
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xD

autumn magnet
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Oh so you're really interested in crypto?

limber knotBOT
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They're all shit currencies

twin lagoon
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i use crypto

limber knotBOT
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people give away free coins to promote their coin in the hope that people will actually use it

twin lagoon
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i trade it in

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i save my money in it

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i gain interest on it

potent fossil
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you get really lucky and hop on crypto bandwagons and then they do airdrops of cash and then you can sell it for fiat and profit lol

autumn magnet
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How much do you think you have in on crypto right now?

twin lagoon
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it's a 4 digit number

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i can simply check, i don't disclose the full number

limber knotBOT
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but 4k only has one digit? thonk

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That's... not a lot

twin lagoon
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it isn't no

autumn magnet
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Ah yeah sorry that was probably a personal question

limber knotBOT
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That would imply that 4k airdrop was probably more than half of it

twin lagoon
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oh no i cashed out that airdrop

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lmao

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was on my bank the day i got it

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@cyan nova > i save my money in it

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Compound is an algorithmic, autonomous interest rate protocol built for developers, to unlock a universe of open financial applications.

limber knotBOT
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I'm still sad I never got to be a dogecoin millionaire ;_; only ever got 100k doge xD

autumn magnet
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When you saw that air drop did you cum a little bit

twin lagoon
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very

cyan nova
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makes more sense

limber knotBOT
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I just don't see the point, none of them are very good at anything except buying drugs, paying ransomware, and getting scammed with no way to recover

twin lagoon
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yeah you'd obviously not save your money in some shit coin lmao

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smartcontracts are interesting

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er, smartcontracts / dapps

limber knotBOT
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Banks are more reliable and usually faster and cheaper too

autumn magnet
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What crypto are you currently investing in?

twin lagoon
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ethereum, used to invest in chainlink where i made a bit of money

cyan nova
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Banks are more reliable and usually faster and cheaper too
anything centralized is by definition not reliable

limber knotBOT
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can banks transfer money in 5 minutes across the globe? for 1ct I think not lol

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phoenix616: Yes, no problem

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then why wont they do it for me? xD

twin lagoon
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how

regal path
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lan server or real serevr

limber knotBOT
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because my banks even block transactions from foreign sounding names in my own country lmao

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Also unless I missed something bitcoin fees were getting expensive as fuck

twin lagoon
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bitcoin isn't the only thing out there

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i wouldn't use bitcoin for anything

limber knotBOT
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only if you want it to be really fast

autumn magnet
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What's your main cryptocurrency Michael

twin lagoon
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ethereum

limber knotBOT
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you can have a transaction for 15ct in under one hour of couple thousand bucks worth

autumn magnet
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So should I ask for payment in ethereum?

twin lagoon
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no

autumn magnet
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Because of smart contracts and whatnot

twin lagoon
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like i said

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you won't have any use for it most likely

limber knotBOT
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the attack against the bitcoin network which increased the fees a couple years back is long past

twin lagoon
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you're under 18, you need an exchange to exchange your money to fiat

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you wouldn't have any use for your money

autumn magnet
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There are a bunch of uses for ethereum

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Well bitcoin

cyan nova
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it's unlikely your clients will have ethereum anyway

twin lagoon
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and that

autumn magnet
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Yeah they told me they can do any primary cryptocurrency @cyan nova

twin lagoon
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i'd probably ask for USDC or DAI

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since those are stable coins

autumn magnet
limber knotBOT
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just use bitcoin then, it's the most well established and you can just exchange them ¯_(ツ)_/¯

autumn magnet
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So I can buy some gift cards in my country in bitcoin

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Like Amazon

limber knotBOT
#

also don't trust random websites that claim they can sell you shit for bitcoin

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(or other crypto)

autumn magnet
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It's ok, when I find a website

twin lagoon
autumn magnet
#

Then it gives me results of the website being returned on reddit

limber knotBOT
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯ just note that you can not get your money back once you pay it lol

autumn magnet
#

They usually tell me whether or not its a scam

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Is Egifter Safe and Legit? : Bitcoin - 6 comments, 0 points - masterdadd, 4mo ago

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also have you never heard of people paying for good reviews? thonk

autumn magnet
#

But it's different on Reddit

twin lagoon
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no it's not

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lol

limber knotBOT
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no? lol

twin lagoon
#

vote manipulation

autumn magnet
#

But

limber knotBOT
#

reddit is a cesspool of bought comments and vote manipulation

autumn magnet
#

These are redditors

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And like

twin lagoon
#

ok

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vote manipulation

autumn magnet
#

Well dude

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The redditors have long history on their accounts posting in a variety of subreddits differing from money to real life things to video games

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They are backed by entirely different personalities

limber knotBOT
#

yes, these accounts cost 10-100$

autumn magnet
#

And it's multiple reddit posts with commenters of all different types of backgrounds like this

cyan nova
#

reddit is fun but it's not democratic or unbiased by any means. Cross check with other sources

limber knotBOT
#

just don't believe everything that you read on the internet ¯_(ツ)_/¯

autumn magnet
#

and how many accounts do you think

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Theyre gonna buy for $100

limber knotBOT
#

depends on the activity and karma count

autumn magnet
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To scam some kid for a $20 gift card

twin lagoon
#

it's not just you and $20

limber knotBOT
#

people farm karma on r/pics and r/funny just to sell their accounts xcD

autumn magnet
#

Fine, you have a point

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So egifter is a scam?

twin lagoon
#

we never said it was

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it could be

peak dirge
#

buttcorn

twin lagoon
#

be careful with what you do

peak dirge
twin lagoon
#

transactions are irreversible

limber knotBOT
#

If you're sending money to someone with the same bank it's basically as fast as the bank wants it to be and free, if it's a different bank you can do it via ACH and it's usually free but can take a couple days or you can use Fedwire and it'll happen instantly but costs like a dollar

autumn magnet
#

Is all you do is trade Michael?

twin lagoon
#

internationally amaranth

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no renegade read my messages

limber knotBOT
#

Amaranth: no bank does internationally instantly

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for no price

twin lagoon
#

i don't even know how to fucking send an international payment with my bank

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without transferwise

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it's such a pain

peak dirge
#

Bitcoin transactions technically cost more and take longer than a transaction through Visa, for instance

limber knotBOT
#

that's one of the main reasons why paypal is so big: they do instant transactions all over the world

peak dirge
#

Also, Bitcoin uses a shitton more energy than Visa, just saying

limber knotBOT
#

and is a lot more secure than Visa, yes

autumn magnet
#

Visa the credit card company or the cryptocurrency?

limber knotBOT
#

Not... really

peak dirge
#

The credit card company.

merry talon
#

that's because paypal is a fake and shady financial institution that will run with your money

#

anyway

limber knotBOT
#

If someone rips me off with Bitcoin I'm fucked, Visa can undo it and give me my money back

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nobody can steal my bitcoin, Visa can just close my account and take all my money 👀 it's a trust issue

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Bitcoin is better for the people who collect the money because you can't take it back from them but I'm usually not those people so fuck those people

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besides which small seller directly accept visa? Oo

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doesn't that like cost a bunch to be able to do that?

twin lagoon
#

depends on what you define as small seller

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if it's a small but registered business

limber knotBOT
#

freelancer doing minecraft plugins xD

twin lagoon
#

ok yeah no

limber knotBOT
#

so yeah, either use paypal or crypto. there isn't really an alternative

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It's not that bad to register yourself but things like Square are much easier and don't add that much on top for the transaction fee so people just go with them

twin lagoon
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It's not that bad to register yourself

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although i agree

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it's just not something that matters

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people won't register

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paypal is just dominating the market

limber knotBOT
#

also I personally just like that I can mathematically own my money ¯_(ツ)_/¯ (not just legally insured up to a cetain maximum)

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I pretty much only buy things from Amazon and places that use Paypal so yeah

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I have more faith in the legal system than in software

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Why? I write software :P

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so you would be okay with loosing all your money above 10k because of a software error in your bank? xD

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FDIC is $250k

merry talon
#

that would be solved like immediately

limber knotBOT
#

also cryptocurrencies are based on mathematical algorithms, not just software...

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well good on you then, lol

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pretty sure in Germany we only get 10k€ instantly and then maybe some more money later once everything was cleared up so that could be a couple years

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Oh, and if I forget my bank password my money doesn't disappear into the void

twin lagoon
#

that can be seen as a good thing or bad thing tbh

limber knotBOT
#

It's only a good thing that your money can vanish if you're doing illegal things and need people to not find them :P

merry talon
#

I don't think it can be seen as a bad thing unless you're some kind of international criminal

limber knotBOT
#

also if you forget your bank password it doesn't matter anyways, anybody on the whole planet could just transfer your money away anyways

cyan nova
#

I have more faith in the legal system than in software
Trusting arbitrary rules and flexible morality of corporations over science and maths thonk

limber knotBOT
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phoenix616: And if that happens my bank can undo it

olive garden
#

I don't know what kind of banks you guys have, but in my country they are regulated lol

limber knotBOT
#

remember that backdoor the system behind every european bank had where you could just transfer money via an un-authenticated api query? because I member lol

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If someone gets your wallet you just lose, no chance

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that's what a password is for

merry talon
#

but banks also have passwords

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you're missing the point

limber knotBOT
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which don't do shit

merry talon
#

its a single point of failure in your case

limber knotBOT
#

you don't need a password to make transfers

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with crypto you can't make a transfer without the password

merry talon
#

that's irrelevant when your money is guaranteed

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to this discussion at least

limber knotBOT
#

My bank does send me requests for unusual activity and lock my account until I respond that it was okay

#

that's like saying "cash is useless because it could burn or get stolen"

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Yes, that is in fact why banks exist

#

so why aren't they able to protect the money while still allowing me to own it like crypto does?

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legal ownership means nothing when your legal system is failing or you don't have the money to get your money back

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Because that strict ownership you're talking about makes it impossible

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it literally doesn't

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You'd need to centralize the network so transactions could be rolled back and then you're just burning CPU on an inefficient bank

#

you can just use a multisg wallet with keys that you share with your bank

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it's a solved problem

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I don't want transactions to get rolled back

merry talon
#

..but you still have the wallet

limber knotBOT
#

one signature is worthless, sweepy

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in a 2-in-3 signature wallet you need at least 2 of 3 to do any kind of transaction

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If you don't want transactions to get rolled back then you don't want what makes banks better

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one could be hold by you in your active wallet, one in a vault and one by your bank digitally

merry talon
#

you can delete the wallet without it being a transaction

limber knotBOT
#

(and of course you can use any kind of number of keys if you believe that that is usefull for your usecase)

merry talon
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or lose your signature

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its even worse if you have multiple and just need to lose one

limber knotBOT
#

that's why you have backup signatures and not all of them are required if you decide to not require all of them

#

nobody forces you to do 2-2 with your bank...

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that would be stupid

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What is the point of doing 2 out of 3 multisig with a bank where you own 2 of the signatures? What does that give you that just having a normal wallet doesn't?

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the security that someone can't just steal my key and password from my PC because they would need access to the bank's key too

peak dirge
#

tl;dr: it may be cool to "own" money mathematically, but there's many fraught issues

limber knotBOT
#

the bank could still do stuff like verify my login or the tpye of transaction

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but they can't block me as I could always just get my backup key and transfer all my money if I wanted to

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But you have 2 of the signatures

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but of course the backup key would not be on a live system but on a secure, physical copy

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So you've got a very complicated to manage system that has zero benefit for the bank and still leaves you open to a home invader with a pipe wrench

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and if you want to increase the reliability just use more backup keys or a "1 OR 3-of-4" setup

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I mean nobody forces you to store it at home, could always use a local bank's vault if you have enough money to care about that lol

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And why do you even need the bank to be involved by having a signature if the only thing it can do is rubber stamp anything that comes in with one of your signatures?

#

because otherwise someone could just steal the key (and password) from my pc and do transaction with it

#

If you want them to run complex fraud detection systems to flag transactions and call you or something for verification then I assume you're paying them like $20/mo for this service, right?

#

as I said: the bank can still control account access (via password, 2fa, phone verification) and verify the validity of transaction attempts before signing it

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They certainly aren't making any interest from your money since they can't actually do anything with it

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I would be willing to pay $20/mo instead of $5/mo like right now for that service, yes

#

what up ircers

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(if it meant that the bank and the whole commerce industry supported crypto too)

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Yeah, that isn't going to happen any time soon :P

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unfortunately not, yeah

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But you could pitch the idea to an exchange, see if they want to take the next step and be a full bank

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in the current state such a setup is pretty pointless but companies doing it exist so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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already done, multisig wallets isn't something completely theoretical, lol

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Sure but they're usually used for escrow

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And the "bank" is an arbiter who can pick a side if there is a dispute

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sure, because for most people there is no need for storage. they want to trade with crypto and haven't yet lost money due to the insecurity of the common systems lol

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That's probably because most people are using it to buy drugs :P

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no, most people are using it to day trade

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Need escrow in case the drugs don't show up or you get a box of baking soda instead of cocaine

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oh you mean they multisig stuff, yeah I guess lol

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all drugs should be legal and usable under government and medical oversight anyways so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

I'm still not convinced other uses have pushed drugs out of being the majority of on chain transactions either

#

Trading stuff seems to usually happen off chain on exchanges and such

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well if you don't want to include the transactions that exchanges do between their cold wallets

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Hmm, yeah, shuffling those deck chairs might overtake it

#

I would also argue that most cash transactions are done for illegal goods 👀

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Nah, lots of people still using cash to buy stuff at gas stations and such

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It is trending that way though, cash is meh

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I highly doubt that outweighs the millions in cash used for drug, weapons and slave deals but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Oh, if you mean total cash transferred then sure, I meant transactions

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ah, hm. yeah I guess the "normal" usage of small value transactions could still be more than illegal ones

#

hard to find statistics on that lol

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(especially the illegal side xD)

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Considering the fact that if you get pulled over in the US and they find $10k in your car they'll seize it on suspicion of drug trafficking I doubt anyone is carrying large amounts around to buy a car or something

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but the only thing I and most people around me buy with cash nowadays is döner kebab as everything else accepts cards so it definitly declines lol

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I guess my grandparents still pay everything in cash 👀

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Hell one guy got pulled over driving through Nebraska on his way to move to Colorado and he had his first month rent and deposit for his new place on him in cash, cops seized that too

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Was only like $3k at most

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can't cops in the US just seize anything they want and keep that? xD

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I sure wouldn't mind 3k more 👀

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Because that road is commonly used by people buying weed in CO to sell in the midwest

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Yeah, property is guilty until proven innocent and they don't even need to charge you with anything

#

ah "civil forfeiture" is what I was thinking of

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They need to attempt to charge you with something but it doesn't even have to go to trial or get settled, if they take you in to the station or write you a ticket that's enough cause to take your shit and then you have to go prove you weren't doing something illegal with it

worn ember
limber knotBOT
#

It's not normal judges either, there are special ones just for these cases

#

People usually don't even try to fight it because they can't afford it, don't know how, or they really were doing something illegal and trying to get their stuff back might incriminate them

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just seize their money so they don't have money to get their money back thinksmart

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Civil asset forfeiture is probably the worst part of the war on drugs

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Well, second worst, three strikes bullshit is the worst

#

Anyway, if etherium ever gets a working proof of stake system I might hate on crypto less

#

But right now they are all downside just so you can claim you have full control

#

I mean some proof of stake coins exist already

#

I didn't think any of them were considered "safe" yet

#

I think that depends on whether or not you consider that concept safe, lol

#

Proof of stake doesn't solve all the other problems I have with them but at least they won't burn power to do literally nothing anymore

#

but burning more energy has to lead to more efficient energy production eventually! ;P

#

(granted it would still convert a non-heat energy source into heat which would still be an issue :S)

#

I wonder how much hotter the earth would be if we converted all possible nuclear fueal into heat lol

sly ruin
#

counting thorium?

#

thorium is the most promising energy source imo

worn ember
#

thorium reactors thonkeng

mighty storm
heady spear
#

@worn ember it was changed to sender

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From audience :3

worn ember
#

yeah

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im just confused why that suddenly changed

#

i didnt even touch version

heady spear
#

And maven kinda freaks out when you change stuff in the same version lol

#

It fucked up my build too

worn ember
#

i didnt change version at all tho

#

it just stopped building and gave that error lul

heady spear
#

Nah they redeployed

#

The same version

worn ember
#

oh

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smh

potent fossil
#

i hardly fucking slept and i drank 2 cups of coffee but im currently a living embodiment of that caffeinated skeleton meme

heady spear
#

Yes smh

robust tiger
#

chillager it is then

quasi valley
#

I'll kick everyone's but who doesn't vote for the mountain illager

#

maybe I'll let the glow squid pass

worn ember
#

inb4 its only for bedrock

limber knotBOT
#

Game could use some per-biome mobs that are basically just reskins with maybe slight behavior differences

#

But there isn't enough behavior to create a useful difference without doing something major so mostly just reskins

worn ember
#

reskins wouldnt be that bad tbh

marble lark
#

I'll kick everyone's but who doesn't vote for the mountain illager
It's just an Illager that drops Ice Blocks on you though

limber knotBOT
#

That isn't something that takes a lot of time since it's almost entirely texture work

worn ember
#

just like how dbcraft has different skins for the same mob

marble lark
#

Unless the actual Minecraft reworks the entire Iceologer mechanics

limber knotBOT
#

You'd want to add a tag to the mob so it kept its skin rather than making it whatever biome they were in so there would be some code work (there would be for selecting the per-biome skin anyway but yeah)

marble lark
#

Game could use some per-biome mobs that are basically just reskins with maybe slight behavior differences
I want the scrapped mobs that were in the mob vote with the Phantoms ;-;

#

and preferably rework Phantom Spawning to be less annoying

limber knotBOT
#

We already have some biome specific mobs, the ocean and desert zombies

worn ember
#

phantoms can fuck off tbh

#

little shits

marble lark
#

Phantoms could be more interesting if their mechanics were different

#

I see them as wasted potential

limber knotBOT
#

Need some more like that, maybe the swamp ones look more decomposed and can give you a very mild poison

marble lark
#

but still

worn ember
#

they're more a nuisance than anything else

marble lark
#

Mojang just add all 3 mobs please why make us vote for only 1

limber knotBOT
#

Phantoms were a neat concept but in practice they're shit

marble lark
#

I'm saying this because I know unlike biome votes

#

Mobs that lose mob votes are gone forever

worn ember
#

lets vote mc off next

limber knotBOT
#

They've said they'll eventually do all of them but so far I haven't seen any sign of that

worn ember
#

gone forever

limber knotBOT
#

For past votes, I mean

marble lark
#

They've said they'll eventually do all of them but so far I haven't seen any sign of that
@magic river#0000 that's only for biomes no?

#

for mobs it's different i think

worn ember
#

so i made like 500 changes on some branch but i cant find which branch KEKW

marble lark
#

personally the best update for me would either be a navigation improving update or an Aether Update

#

nice

so i made like 500 changes on some branch but i cant find which branch :KEKW:

worn ember
#

or i checked out without stashing thonkeng

#

ah found it

marble lark
#

Aether Update ftw screw Caves

#

nice

worn ember
#

i really gotta clean up some branches

limber knotBOT
#

Navigation update?

worn ember
#

now i want more cave variety

slim nymph
#

i will be upset if illager thing doesnt win. a cosmetic squid that most servers shun ambient water mobs, and a cosmetic cow

limber knotBOT
#

Aether is meh, most of it was the terrain gen which the end covers

slim nymph
#

those are like nothing for mojang to implement in effort

twin lagoon
#

i really wish they implement illusioners

#

such a good mob

marble lark
#

ikr

#

Illusioners could be really good scouts or something

worn ember
#

can you see the polls somwhere?

slim nymph
#

i forgot thats not in base game lol

twin lagoon
#

it is

marble lark
#

given their ability is 100% focused on evasion

slim nymph
#

i mean used

twin lagoon
#

tru

slim nymph
#

i added it in mine not even knowing that

marble lark
#

hey Aikar btw I'm having another go at patching faulty Wither behaviour and wdym by adding a config for that?

#

I keep seeing you say add a config or something

slim nymph
#

um, im not sure how to explain what a config is

marble lark
#

I know what it is...

#

I'm more asking on why I need a config for that

slim nymph
#

a config to keep the broken behavior or not

marble lark
#

huh

slim nymph
#

because we have silly people who want to enable broken shit becasue MUH VANILLA

marble lark
#

why would you want a bug for

#

oh

slim nymph
#

dont ask me, those people are silly

marble lark
#

but is it ok if I don't

void void
#

i like bugs

marble lark
#

I will if I have to

slim nymph
#

no lol, its not ok

marble lark
#

;-;

#

sigh ok

void void
slim nymph
#

for non dupe bugs, we typically add configs

marble lark
#

I can imagine how many people will be laughing at me lol

worn ember
#

yes

slim nymph
#

its just dupe bugs we hold a hard stance on

marble lark
#

"Which idiot added an option to keep a bug rofl this guy's a r@tard"

slim nymph
#

i guarantee you some technical minecraft player has built a wither killing station that uses this bug

worn ember
#

well you'd be surprised how many plebs reee at it

void void
#

someone is forcing me to install intellij on my PC and i dont like that

twin lagoon
#

intellij pogPause

slim nymph
#

how is someone forcing you, but if your a developer, sounds like they are helping you

worn ember
#

better than netbeans or eclipse at least

void void
#

lol who uses netbeans

#

baked beans kekw

worn ember
#

actually, i have a blind kid in my backend programming classes that switched to eclipse from intellij thonkeng

#

i think it had to do with accessibility

slim nymph
#

netbeans is better than eclipse still lol

#

how? what in the world does eclipse do that idea doesnt for accessibility

peak dirge
marble lark
#

better than netbeans or eclipse at least
But i use Eclipse tho

worn ember
#

i'll ask him if i get a chance ¯_(ツ)_/¯

slim nymph
#

sorry for your loss sherman

marble lark
#

;-;

#

What makes Eclipse bad though I'm not professionals like y'all

slim nymph
#

the only reason to open Eclipse is MAT if you dont own a better memory anlyzer

marble lark
#

haven't really seen it's flaws yet

slim nymph
#

it isnt as good as idea feature and productivity wise

worn ember
#

its not bad, its just that intellij is better

slim nymph
#

IDEA will make you more effecient, better inspections

marble lark
#

I see

slim nymph
#

IDEA is all focused on Productivity

worn ember
#

the reason i switched to intellij was cuz maven integration sucked ass in eclipse and couldnt get it working for the life of me lmao

slim nymph
#

everything it can do to help you deliver less bugs and better quality code, faster

marble lark
#

so kind of like focused totally on optimization and productivity i guess?

#

sounds cool

slim nymph
#

optimization isnt a good word there, but productivity is one of the most important things in development

worn ember
#

minecraft dev plugin is reason enough to move to intellij lol

marble lark
#

Meanwhile here's me not knowing what pom.xml is other than to import stuff

#

xd

slim nymph
marble lark
#

minecraft dev plugin is reason enough to move to intellij lol
Not really Eclipse was sort of good enough for me for Minecraft

#

Eclipse PHP sucks ass though

void void
#

How to getWorldType() of a world ?
I have seen that method is deprecated
Pls ping me

slim nymph
#

we have an MC plugin for IDEA

#

eclipse doesnt have it

worn ember
#

^^

marble lark
#

actually any PHP IDE sucks ass

slim nymph
#

its made by DemonWav

marble lark
#

How to getWorldType() of a world ?
I have seen that method is deprecated
Pls ping me
getEnvironment I think?

void void
#

no

marble lark
#

nvm I'll shut up to prevent confusion

worn ember
#

its an actual plugin, that deals with boilerplate and helps a load in modding

slim nymph
#

adding events to listeners is even simplier with the MC plugin

void void
#

environnement =/= type

marble lark
#

adding events to listeners is even simplier with the MC plugin
?

slim nymph
#

Alt + Insert (Code -> Generate if you're not a keybind person) -> Event Listener -> type in event name and it filters to only bukkit events, enter, adds entire method + annotation + parameter all ready for you

#

create a new plugin? new project wizard bootstraps entire project config for you in seconds

marble lark
#

ooh

#

noice

worn ember
marble lark
#

oh and btw I think I have to add a null predicate for the PathfinderGoal Aikar

slim nymph
#

you give it a name, select platform

#

do you have paper-api in pom/gradle?

#

if you only have -server thats prob why

marble lark
#

unless you want me to make a new constructor in the Pathfinder

worn ember
#

in one of them

slim nymph
#

it detects spigot too

#

there is something in module settings to flag its a bukkit/spigot/paper project, your module should have a bukkit/spigot/paper icon

worn ember
slim nymph
#

it usually auto detects it

worn ember
#

it only works in the right module

slim nymph
#

yep

worn ember
#

makes sense

slim nymph
#

be sure your also in a listener when you press it

worn ember
#

never even noticed that feature

slim nymph
#

iirc i asked for it 😛

worn ember
slim nymph
#

it also shows you color previews in the gutter when using ChatColor in messages

worn ember
#

yeah

#

it also automatically replaces translation keys

#

that i do know

slim nymph
#

and if you go into mod development, it gets super useful there

#

can look up mappings in the ide

#

demon was talking about adding nbt support too to view nbt files in ide

upper flicker
#

nbt is in

slim nymph
#

oh nice

upper flicker
#

has been for a while

#

it's very well done

worn ember
#

hmm, was the mappings added recently?

slim nymph
#

oh wait i think the "to do" was chunk support

worn ember
#

i dont remember having them a few years ago lol

slim nymph
#

its not for bukkit dark

#

its only for mod platforms

worn ember
#

i know

slim nymph
#

but pretty sure thats old

worn ember
#

i used to do modding a few years ago

#

hmm probably missed it then

#

never understood how to use K9

#

i'd like to get back into modding again at some point

marble lark
#

Trust me you won't Forge is pretty weird to use

#

unless you mean Fabric which is pretty trippy with all the Mixins

quasi valley
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mixins are fun because you get back into the forge-style of having awful documentation

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or only very limited

marble lark
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Forge had proper documentation if you decompiled the Mod Development Kit instead of setting up the modding workspace iirc

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petition to change the mapping for the spawn logic class from SpawnerCreature to NaturalSpawner (Official mapping) xd

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rare instance of Mojang mapping sounding cooler than the spigot one

tawny stream
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1.16.x compatible, I mean

stiff yarrow
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@upper flicker didn't know that got added, nice!

marble lark
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aight fixed the Wither targeting hopefully it gets accepted

potent fossil
hallow swallow
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Anyone knows what is the perm

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for player to switch /server

tawny stream
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there is no /fly command anymore?

next frost
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there never was one without plugins

marble lark
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there is no /fly command anymore?
Never has been

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*Pulls out pistol

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jkjk

void void
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Didnt Kenny have a Maintenance plugin?

vernal moth
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yes

void void
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Can anyone send link

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I cant find it

void void
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Thanks

rose lion
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Yo @quasi valley your Portuguese translation is kinda incomplete, it has no accents

vernal moth
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he doesnt speak Portuguese

worn ember
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go do a better job then lol

vernal moth
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so he has to rely on contributors

quasi valley
vernal moth
rose lion
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I can PR it if you want

quasi valley
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would be lovely!

potent fossil
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ServerListPlus I think it's called

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oh, 1.14

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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apparently it's working on 1.16 tho according to reviews

worn ember
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serverlistplusplus

limber knotBOT
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SLP works in 1.16

potent fossil
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well there you go @void void

void void
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any good resource packs out there that highlight the ores really good for 1.16?

tawny stream
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@next frost @marble lark yes, I've noticed it, hehe. OTOH, what permission plugin do you recommend me?

next frost
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LuckPerms

worn ember
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would automatic mining be considered cheating thonkeng

potent fossil
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yes

worn ember
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but its just playing the game, except its not you playing bigbrain

potent fossil
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thats the definition of cheating

worn ember
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fair enough

twin lagoon
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@vernal moth did you see it yet

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pixel 5 pogPause

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€629

vernal moth
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I don't care about the price

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also I would get the XL

stiff yarrow
twin lagoon
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ngl

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kinda feeling the pixel 5

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kinda want to wait for next year when cameras are behind the display

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but kinda want the pixel 5

potent fossil
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aight im pissed

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i ordered tacos from chipotle because tacos sounded so fucking good

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and they FUCKING MADE A BURRITO AND SLAPPED THE TACOS LABEL ON IT

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😡

green turret
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Burritos!

tawny stream
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I guess a parent group in LuckPerms is a group which the current one inherits permissions, right?

potent fossil
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yes

vernal moth
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wtf is full hd+ michael?

twin lagoon
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1440p probably

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also @vernal moth

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you get bose qc ii or something

vernal moth
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no

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I hate the QCs

twin lagoon
vernal moth
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I have sonys

green turret
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A parent group is one where parents meet up and hang out while the children play.

twin lagoon
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it's f r e e if you preorder

vernal moth
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oh

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QCs are old anyways

twin lagoon
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now i would've preordered if it was available in nl

vernal moth
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bose now makes bose 700 to be able to compete with sony

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but sony still does it better

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its not 1440p michael

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1.080 x 2.340

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at least its still 90hz

twin lagoon
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wtf is full hd+ then

potent fossil
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i've had my bose qc 35 ii's since they came out, had the 25's before that. had to replace the earcups once with aftermarket ones due to wear and tear. they are fantastic

vernal moth
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more than 1920!!!!

rustic knoll
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f

twin lagoon
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finlay KEKHandsup

rustic knoll
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hiii michael

vernal moth
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no XL at all this year?

twin lagoon
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doesn't look like it

vernal moth
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nice

minor badge
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@twin lagoon aaa

twin lagoon
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awa

vernal moth
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I don't need to buy a new one then

minor badge
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awa

twin lagoon
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uwu

minor badge
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wo

tawny stream
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what are tracks for in luckperms? autopromote?

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how can I setup the objetives?

potent fossil
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idk what you mean by objectives but a track is just an ordering of groups

i.e. staff track: helper->mod->admin
or donor track: iron->gold->diamond

autopromotion would be handled by an external plugin, LP just provides the perms and track facility

vernal moth
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I want that portait light thingy

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somebody make a mod for the 4 pls

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Also

mighty storm
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oh hey

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what was monday/tuesdays

potent fossil
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lol i complained to chipotle and they gave me a free meal \o/

lean kiln
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the chipotle near me is famous for their icy guacamole

potent fossil
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yea the guac here is quite cold but i dont mind that

lean kiln
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the one near me just has chunks of ice lmao

potent fossil
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i was just mad bc i ordered tacos and they delivered a burrito. so i rated 1 star kekw like a karen and i got a free meal

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so im not mad anymore

lean kiln
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lol nice

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they are usually pretty generous with meal coupons

void void
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me to chipotle, "can I have a little." chipotle: 🪣

potent fossil
slim nymph
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my p2xl is still perfectly fine, so def dont need 5 yet and spent way too much this year

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a $1000 phone has to go more than 3 years lol

potent fossil
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yea lol

tawny stream
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@potent fossil I see, thank you, and .. what about the prefixes/suffixes priority? what is that for?

potent fossil
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a player can have multiple groups, and therefore can have multiple prefixes/suffixes at the end of permission calculations

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so the highest priority one is the one that will show

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it's useful if you want, say, a staff prefix to override a donor prefix, or a donor prefix to override a normal player prefix

stiff yarrow
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@potent fossil if you use uber they usually give you a full refund when you report issues with the order (sometimes partial, depends on what you complain about)

potent fossil
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i ordered thru the chipotle app which uses doordash

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(at least in my area)

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wow this song is a throwback, thanks spootify

tawny stream
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@potent fossil and how can I give a group certain permissions to promote just in a specific track?

potent fossil
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I'm not sure if you can do that, but have you tried joining the LuckPerms discord and asking there?

stiff yarrow
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I just use itunes like a hipster (well.. I guess its apple music now)

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noooooooooo my favourite pen is low on ink and the others ones I have like it are all in unknown places in my apartment

left swift
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Do the summoning ritual

mental meadow
potent fossil
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aurora

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go into the timeout corner

left swift
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I mean

mental meadow
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Decompiling random apps, not my code

left swift
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It looks cool

potent fossil
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did i ask

left swift
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Who

mental meadow
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Gotta love the basic auth via htaccess for their api calls

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With the plaintext password in the source

left swift
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Limp simp

stiff yarrow
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the newest IntelliJ EAP is so PogU

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well, don't know if these features were in the previous EAPs so.. alchemy

mossy vessel
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Code with me 👀

mighty storm
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another EAP?

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i was on 2020.3

vernal moth
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I like the VCS -> git rename

mighty storm
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how hard would yoinking the patch system be for a non-mc related project

worn ember
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what did VCS stand for anyway? Version Control System?

mighty storm
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yes

vernal moth
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it now renames to the detected vcs

mighty storm
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WHAT is that embed

vernal moth
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holy embed

mighty storm
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thought that said transphobic characters

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i like the new project select screen though

cosmic raft
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new project seelect screen?

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don't see that in that link

vernal moth
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EAP1

mighty storm
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that was eap1

worn ember
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30.09 19:27:36 [Server] INFO at net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R2.DedicatedServer.b(DedicatedServer.java:371) ~[PaperSpigot-1.16.3.jar:git-Paper-202]
excuse me what, is that just a misnamed jar?

limber knotBOT
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@worn ember [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

worn ember
vernal moth
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ye

mighty storm
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he knows

cosmic raft
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link to eap1? :P

mighty storm
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let's go

cosmic raft
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that project select is much nicer, yea

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looking forward to that

vernal moth
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I also like the new endpoints view

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with convert to curl

finite wave
vernal moth
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I also first learned about mavens new pom stuff via that post

cosmic raft
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gradle is bae :p

mighty storm
worn ember
mighty storm
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oh it set the sdk to jruby

worn ember
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now i can have white theme everywhere 👏

worn ember
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lol this dude sent me his log with him joining on the first line so his ip is exposed to the public KEKW since he posted it on pastebin

mighty storm
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I tried yoinking the patch system to another project but I guess I messed up, when I do the steps (sorta) I get ```Rebuilding patch files from current fork state...
Formatting patches for project...
*.patch
tail: .patch: No such file or directory
error: pathspec '
.patch' did not match any file(s) known to git
Patches saved for project to project-Patches/

Does there need to be a patch for rb to work?
vernal moth
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ffs

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belgians