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void void
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That's right babey but you can't have any

woven otter
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budget vsauce

limber knotBOT
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vsauce is budget me

woven otter
limber knotBOT
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he didn't have the budget for the crisp hairline

fallen oracle
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I need a better chair too with more back support

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I will check out the Titan stuff.

limber knotBOT
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no mere chair can support your back glare

void void
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stop hitting on him

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he's mine

limber knotBOT
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jealousy is an ugly emotion simple

void void
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i wont have it

limber knotBOT
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if it is that phat ass then you are correct

void void
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its MY phat ass thank you very much

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and glare loves it very much

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we've been married for 30 years, and you wont ruin this.

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.kill MagmaGuy

limber knotBOT
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gets some friends together and shivs MagmaGuy a few times.

void void
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It's over.

limber knotBOT
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if glare loves your phat ass that much then surely he can beat me in a haiku showdown

void void
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ok glare, go

fallen oracle
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Fat man sees small door

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He knows he cannot fit through

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Tears flow free now

void void
dusk drift
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has md5 fixed isSim for heads yet?

limber knotBOT
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alright

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my turn

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fat americans

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make me all tingly inside

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oh shit heart attack

void void
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glare wins

hot gorge
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That was trash

fallen oracle
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That's not correct logic. It's the American who is supposed to have the heart attack.

limber knotBOT
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ever heard of second hand smoke?

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I got second hand phat ass

void void
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you dont have a phat ass

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you're skinny

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you cant sit with us

limber knotBOT
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that's why it's second hand dum dum

void void
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mainly because there's no space

limber knotBOT
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you can't even sit by yourself simple

void void
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my PHAT. ASS. takes care of that.

cosmic raft
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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everyone's a critic

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fine I'll do a better one

fallen oracle
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Sorry bud, you only get once chance.

limber knotBOT
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inside of us all

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there are two wolves but simple

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devoured both of them

void void
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boo

limber knotBOT
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see you just don't like it because you're not spiritual

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because you ate that part of you

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screw you all, going home

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everyone's a critic

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you can huff my shorts

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i

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'll pass

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you're missing out

timid nacelle
onyx cipher
obsidian hearth
merry talon
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if glare loves your phat ass that much then surely he can beat me in a haiku showdown

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r/nocontext

void void
void void
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do it i dare you

dawn sail
nova pond
latent valve
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Wait rly pex v2?

sturdy kraken
latent valve
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ew gross i just joined bartyserver and it's such a terrible server

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why do people even play it

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to unlock access to the rigged crate you either earn $20k ingame cash or spend $80

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πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

pulsar wigeon
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wow still doing crate jokes

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rip barty

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my diamond armor will forever haunt him

vestal jasper
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barty when are you releasing cratecraft

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oh oops nda :^)

ember crag
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Can't be any worse than wizcraft

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πŸ˜‰

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Then again...TODCraft isn't anything special either.

cosmic raft
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hmmmmmm

tardy oak
hard kernel
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billy can u refresh my memory

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on how to fill the world slower

golden gust
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starts rubbing his magic ball

latent valve
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πŸ˜‚

golden gust
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Nope, not saying anything

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You'd need to provide some info

latent valve
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rub it harder cat

static badge
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.8ball why is it occurring

limber knotBOT
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shakes the magic 8 ball... Signs point to yes

golden gust
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OH GOD

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IT' SOWKRING

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wait

latent valve
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.8ball why is it occurring

limber knotBOT
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shakes the magic 8 ball... You may rely on it

upper flicker
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the magic conch shell has spoken

hard kernel
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/wb world fill 5 128 true the 5 is what?

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chunks per sec?

golden gust
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if you're tryna save your TPS, look for the custom worldborder build

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It's in one of the channels on here somewhere

hard kernel
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wow such help

hard kernel
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thanks lol i swear it wasnt there

ancient bolt
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I hate a bandaid to take off

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fuuuuck

static badge
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custom worldborder build?

hard kernel
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wait do i need that?

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the custom wb

serene bolt
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it's worldborder with the manual chunk unload request removed

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it makes it so your TPS isn't garbage while it runs

hard kernel
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idk what that means is it better than the wb i have??

static badge
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oh right because that sync loads

hard kernel
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i just booted all my players

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to fill

serene bolt
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if your issue is with pregenning your world causing a ton of lag for all of your players, then yes, it will help

hard kernel
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nahh i just kicked them all ... i was having issues crashing while filling so billy recommended that i fill slower

serene bolt
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not sure why your server would ever crash while filling lol

hard kernel
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same... it didnt prior to 1.15

dusk drift
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Pure, doesn't the custom Worldborder have a github?

serene bolt
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Maybe? That jar was compiled / made by me, all I did was removed two lines (chunk unload request) and compiled it. No other changes.

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didn't feel like forking it just to do that tbh

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Honestly I should PR that to WB but I remember someone said they did that a while ago and he (allegedly) said he didn't want to remove it because older versions of MC leak chunks badly and need the unload request

static badge
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it shouldn't be called unless the chunk is loaded shrug_animated

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and the force loaded api is 1.14+

fringe merlin
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how do you set permissions with permissions.yml

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or, what is permissions.yml

hard kernel
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math boys how many chunks in a 20kx20k world?

fringe merlin
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1250

hard kernel
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no

fringe merlin
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no?

static badge
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.wa (20*1000/16)^2

limber knotBOT
static badge
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about that many

fringe merlin
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how can you have more chunks than blocks

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wait nvm

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im retarded

pulsar wigeon
hard kernel
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20k diameter

static badge
fringe merlin
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😎

vestal jasper
raw hinge
fluid girder
azure needle
median token
small moon
serene bolt
merry talon
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so it looks like if sharing is on windows automatically shares your home directory to other devices logged in to your microsoft account..?

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what's the security like on this

twin lagoon
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just, don't log into your microsoft account

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lmao

merry talon
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128 bit encryption apparently

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my licensed is tied to that account, i see no reason not to

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but I would like to be able to turn that off in case of malware shit

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wait it's sharing my whole c drive..

twin lagoon
merry talon
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wtf

thin lagoon
limber swallow
golden gust
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So, I wantedto go to the shop downstairs, but like, they was closed, so I was gonna go to another shop and somehow ended up going for some long ass walk

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(And I just noticed that I think I left my phone in my jacket pocket...)

limber knotBOT
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that's fine cat we all already knew you were dumb

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The hard part is getting up, getting dressed and going out, extending the time is way easier

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the worst part is having to share this world with you people

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I can get up and get dressed just fine because I'm not a 10 y/o

golden gust
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Wait, shit

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I forgot step 2

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So that's why people where looking at me weirdly...

limber knotBOT
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wait, you have clothes?

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I thought you were just channeling your inner furry

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furries don't need clothes

quasi valley
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I thought you ran around naked all the time, magma

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That’s probably why you don’t need any time dressing up or anything

signal pivot
limber knotBOT
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magma doesnt need cloths, he has a beard

limber knotBOT
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why would I hide my natural beauty_

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clothes exist to hide ugly people's bodies

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that's why top models are always in bikinis

latent valve
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But they still have "cloth" so where they have it must be ugly as u stated πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚

limber knotBOT
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it's because they're not quite as naturally beautiful as I

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that's why they use photoshop

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and I don't

alpine flare
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Hi

merry talon
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so do you people with NAS just live with a shitty mobile experience?

twin lagoon
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wdym?

merry talon
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not sure how else to put it

limber knotBOT
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do you not have fast upload or something? lol

merry talon
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you get a NAS instead of OTS cloud storage and you have a terribad mobile app

limber knotBOT
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Just run nextcloud on it?

twin lagoon
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that

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or just any app that allows you to open samba / nfs shares

void void
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if it's your nas then... pick whatever suits best for you

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idk

twin lagoon
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right

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i can go around the terminal myself

void void
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being stuck on shitty gui is your decision lol

twin lagoon
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i don't want a bloated interface like nextcloud

void void
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same

twin lagoon
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the only interface i'd want is freenas'

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but even then i'd probably be able to manage it through CLI just fine

merry talon
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whether you use a simple samba app or nextcloud it still sucks

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nextcloud does not run well on the server side

twin lagoon
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how

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yes it does

merry talon
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not in my experience

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especially on low end hardware

twin lagoon
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the trick is

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to not use low end hardware

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it's quite simple if you think about it tbh

merry talon
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yeah I'm not putting a $500 chip in my nas

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no one does that

void void
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then use cli idk

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guis usually go with "do less but pay more" slogan

celest coyote
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The AMD apus are quite nice for low end but they have very decent performance

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They are less than 100

waxen panther
unreal quarry
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am I the only one that finds APUs to be absolutely appalling?

celest coyote
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?

limber knotBOT
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having buy a new CPU vs buying a new motherboard when upgrading the GPU, doesn't really make much of a difference, lol

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*having to buy

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(besides most people who care just buy a video card and use the internal GPU for recording or something)

celest coyote
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I'm not sure what context this convo is in

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For servers you should really care about the gpu

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No GPU is fine but if you really need a gui even the weakest of GPU's is fine

limber knotBOT
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it's related to the APU comment by Billy

unreal quarry
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you contradicted yourself there.

server
gui

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πŸ˜›

celest coyote
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I know

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Some people still use gui on the server though

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Said people are usually running windows server outdated

merry talon
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ill be going for the 3200g

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since the hardware encoding would be nice for plex

hard kernel
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hi

ancient bolt
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apus are fine for their use-case

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

hard kernel
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any clue why my server might be crashing while filling? i removed all other plugins my machine is an i9 and i have 15gb ram allocated. are there flags that limit cpu usage?

sand vale
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trying to save the world to an IDE drive or something?

limber knotBOT
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really depends on the crash

hard kernel
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theres not much info the only error ive seen while pregen is Failed to serialize unloading chunk data for task: Chunk task: class:com.destroystokyo.paper.io.chunk.ChunkSaveTask, for world 'world', (-403,-498), hashcode:758578779, priority: -1, falling back to a synchronous execution

limber knotBOT
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that's not a crash then?

hard kernel
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the server just becomes unresponsive / stops filling

limber knotBOT
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just wait, it's probably just saving the stuff

hard kernel
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no

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i have to kill it

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then start over

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its very annoying

twin lagoon
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slightly unrelated, but if you're worldborder filling

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use puremin0rez' worldborder patch to make it faster & less laggy

hard kernel
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i am

twin lagoon
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actually

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using that patch and it looks like i crashed aswell

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nevermind, just looks like we're out of memory

hard kernel
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i mean it gets back up to where it was in minutes.

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but every minute counts

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and if i sue the flag that billy told me ... 5 per second yea it doesnt crash but to load 1.5 million chunks that would take 83 hrs

twin lagoon
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it processes like 300 - 400 chunks for me every 5 seconds or so

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15 million chunks are alot of chunks so it's obviously going to take 83 hrs

sand vale
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@hard kernel whats the dimensions of your world?

hard kernel
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10k radius

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round world

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@sand vale

sand vale
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That's not horrible.

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I generated a 10240 radius square world (which is substantially larger than yours) in under 36 hours.

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to be fair, that was done on 1.12.2

hard kernel
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lol

twin lagoon
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that's completely different

hard kernel
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im fucked

twin lagoon
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1.12.2 is a lot faster

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83 hrs is fine for 1.15

hard kernel
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83 hrs is not fine

twin lagoon
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actually, it's alot nvm

hard kernel
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people gonna get mad

twin lagoon
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think i generate a 5kx5k world in like

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7 hours?

unreal quarry
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tell those people to stfu

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lol

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pre gen is not fast

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never has been

sand vale
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then should take about 28 hours to generate 10x^2

hard kernel
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couldnt i just manually load in every chunk?

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faster

sand vale
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no...?

unreal quarry
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do you know what the WB plugin is doing?

sand vale
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lol

hard kernel
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yea crashing every 3 minutes

sand vale
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WB is literally progromatically loading every chunk

twin lagoon
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i've taken a look at our world, about 250 chunks per 5 seconds without the patch

unreal quarry
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its literally just loading chunks in a line.. same way a player does it by exploring in a straight line... its not faster or slower

hard kernel
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brb gotta restart my server

twin lagoon
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934123 in total

hard kernel
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but if i have multiple players flying around

sand vale
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restart server

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You don't gen the world with players on it. never.

limber knotBOT
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why the hell would you generate with players on

twin lagoon
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lmaoo

limber knotBOT
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yeah

shell vine
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it will probably take you a week straight πŸ™‚

hard kernel
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no players are on

twin lagoon
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it takes me 5 hours and 32 minutes to generate 5kx5k

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on a i7-7700k i believe

hard kernel
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i was asking could i alternitively give 5 of my staff the responsibility of loading the map manually? like them just flying around chunk to chunk

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would that be any faster?

twin lagoon
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no

limber knotBOT
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wat

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are you drunk

twin lagoon
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that's also just retarded

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and i don't think your staff would be volunteering for that

sand vale
twin lagoon
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since it would take quite some time

hard kernel
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its literally just loading chunks in a line.. same way a player does it by exploring in a straight line... its not faster or slower

shell vine
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it took me a few days to generate my survival on 1.14 but i have epicworldgenerator

limber knotBOT
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holy fuck

hard kernel
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if i used 5 players 5x as fast

limber knotBOT
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you really are drunk

unreal quarry
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no

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god damn it

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no

twin lagoon
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if you used 25 players it would be 25x as fast

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./s

unreal quarry
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thats not how this works @hard kernel

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if you did that with 5 players your server would crash...

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WB is crashing your server now because you have it loading too much

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i told you this a week ago

sand vale
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@hard kernel when players are on, the server has to manage a lot more things. When no players are on and WB is pre-genning the world, it's doing so as efficiently as possible. I suggest you take a look at your settings.

shell vine
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worldborder self corrects and slows itself down to optimal speed too

sand vale
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usually

shell vine
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its just generation is really slow, you just gotta suck it up

unreal quarry
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not always, phantic

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its prone to crashing since 1.13

shell vine
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did for me

sand vale
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He's using some patched version though. Wondering if that patch is messing with things

shell vine
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i tried setting it to like 10000 always ended up going to about 20 per run

unreal quarry
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it loads too many chunks too quickly and the server cant unload them fast enough. boom

twin lagoon
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@sand vale the patch makes worldborder not forcefully unload chunks

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but lets the server itself naturally unload it

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it'll use up a lot more memory

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but is generally faster

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e.g. had 350 - 400 chunks per 5 seconds

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instead of 250

sand vale
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ok, so between what Billy and you just said, it confirms what I said. lol

shell vine
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i messed with all that stuff too back a few months ago, it does crash if you remove the self corrector yes

unreal quarry
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its not the self corrector

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its that it self corrects too slowly

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between checks it can end up loading too many chunks and crashing

shell vine
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well you find that out right away then

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easy enough to just start off smaller

unreal quarry
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sometimes you wont see it happen until hours in

shell vine
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that doesnt make sense

sand vale
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@hard kernel - I'd give the non-patched WB a go. See if you have any better luck. Also, probably want to do it on a different server where not a lot of other things are eating up your resources, if possible.

unreal quarry
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i told him to put a lower threshold. he's back because now its "too slow"

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lol

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the patch doesnt have anything to do with it, it actually helps

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its not the self corrector thing phanatic was talking about

twin lagoon
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the patch is literally a oneliner

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that just comments out the unload part

shell vine
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yea two different things

twin lagoon
raw hinge
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are there any plugins for 1.15.1 worth checking out?

sand vale
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You said the server unloads too slowly. Michael said the patch forces the server to deal with unloads... so...

twin lagoon
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the patch makes the server naturally unload it

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before the patch worldborder forced the server

shell vine
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that PR just fixes the main thread lagging

limber knotBOT
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there's no async chunk saving, is there?

unreal quarry
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anyways, everyone seems to want to be an expert about this topic @hard kernel, so I'll just reiterate what I told you before and leave it at that.

You cant expect this to be fast. It literally has to load up every single chunk as if a player would normally. The entire reason you're preloading your world is because you know players exploring and loading up new chunks causes major lag and its slow as balls. This pregen job is the same god damn thing. Its major lag and slow as balls. Rushing it just causes more problems than its worth, like crashes and running out of memory. Its best to just slow it down a bit, and let it do its thing. Give it the time it needs.

Take it or leave it.

twin lagoon
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probably not

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saving still lags

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so i'm assuming it isn't async

shell vine
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it is

twin lagoon
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is it?

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can't find any patch

limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
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must be blind

limber knotBOT
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as in not force unloading and blocking but requesting it on the fly?

twin lagoon
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it already does that kenny

shell vine
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that is what got commented out

twin lagoon
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right

limber knotBOT
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ohh misunderstood that then, alright

hard kernel
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billy i have already pregenned 1 million chunks... if i use the wb fill command after it crashes it gets back to 70% within minutes... if i use the /wb fill 5 128 true command it will start over at 0% and creep ever so slowly to 1%

shell vine
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thats from the progress not being saved in the config, i ran into that as well, its not related to the actual speed

twin lagoon
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doesn't matter if it's not saved in the config

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it'll still re-check afaik

shell vine
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it does

unreal quarry
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that patch is just a quick fix. the problem is that forcing a chunk to unload makes the server do extra work that isnt really needed, especially in this case. a better fix would be to rewrite WB to use plugin tickets to hold chunks as loaded (rather than using the forceload api) then when its done remove the tickets and let the server unload the chunks naturally.

shell vine
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you have to use force, otherwise it skips chunks, and if you use force it loads through the whole map again if the server crashes is his issues

unreal quarry
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i wasnt replying to him

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i was just stating in general

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that the patch isnt the perfect fix, and it could be better

pearl ibex
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Fucking Oracle. pepega

hard kernel
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can none of the big headed people on this discord revamp this old ass plugin?

shell vine
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a workaround is to start it up without force at high speed, wait till it gets to where you left off and starts to slow down, stop server, edit the config to have force enabled, and start up again

hard kernel
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phanatic ill look into this

unreal quarry
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but to reply to him, yes it starts over at 0% because you put true to force load each chunk even the already generated ones. the reason i told you to do that is because WB doesnt properly calculate if a chunk is generated or not and you end up with a shit load of ungenerated chunks still. you can visually see this error if you use mapping software, like dynmap or overviewer.

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the problem with the whole thing there is mojang made it impossible to check if a chunk has been fully generated or not until the chunk has been loaded. yay!

limber knotBOT
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I wonder if reading the region file manually would be faster if loading the chunk xD

unreal quarry
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so, to get around this, WB uses an algo to determine if a chunk has been generated or not by guessing from surrounding chunks. The problem with that is the algo is for 1.12

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leaf has talked about moving the chunk status flag to the file header, but thats going to make your region files incompatible with spigot/vanilla. you'd be locked into paper

hard kernel
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does it matter that this server is part of a bungee network?

unreal quarry
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irrelevant

hard kernel
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ok ... well players keep trying to join the server but whitelist is stopping them

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i didnt know if this effects anything

static badge
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if anything we store a mapping of chunk status elsewhere

hard kernel
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/timings off im guessing is suggested

shell vine
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what would that have to do with anything

hard kernel
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giving it 20 gb ram instead of 15 wont make a difference?

fallen oracle
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You shouldn't need more than 12

pearl ibex
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I was used to Oracle's JDK.

limber knotBOT
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watch, as landis again continues his tale in about half an hour

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16:17 <+DiscordBot> <L​an​di​s1​17​> I was used to Oracle's JDK.

shell vine
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if you have more give it why not you paid for it

limber knotBOT
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that's not how it works

shell vine
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why not

autumn bloom
limber knotBOT
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let me find billy's awesome metaphor

shell vine
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if i have a machine with 64gb of ram, im not gonna just give it 2

limber knotBOT
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giving it more than it needs is nothing but retarded

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have fun with garbage collector lag spikes, lol

shell vine
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you can use a better garbage collector

limber knotBOT
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you can garbage collect yourself

summer barn
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I was scrolling up through chat and whats with all the hate on furries

shell vine
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ok retard

summer barn
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Only some Of them

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I can name a couple

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But, Its the same kinda thing as anime obsessions

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Doesnt make it an abomination

twin lagoon
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anime

summer barn
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they arent hurting anyone. Just lie in any genre, there are bad ppl :/

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toxic ppl exist everywhere

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and you havent provided any examples of why, other than insults

limber knotBOT
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on one side we have someone questioning jokes, on the other we have someone being a retard as usual :aaa:

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you're only proving that ur rarted

summer barn
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well then your opinion doesnt matter

limber knotBOT
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why do you even care about furries that much?

summer barn
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Well in life, youll never win a debate without saying why you feel a certain way

shell vine
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next thing you know theyll be making furry marriage legal!

limber knotBOT
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phoenix, maybe barty is a furry himself, rejected by the other furries?

summer barn
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that doesnt even make sense @shell vine

limber knotBOT
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paint, he's joking

summer barn
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I know

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But it doesntmake sense

limber knotBOT
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maybe he was a furry before it was cool?

shell vine
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im not gonna explain it

summer barn
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well, Doesnt mean everyone is into that

limber knotBOT
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~~the two parts are the one barty is one, and the other is for everyone else ~~

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admitting to being on second life ( Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β°)

summer barn
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Im not Into the Pr0n

twin lagoon
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gotta go to a convention then

limber knotBOT
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they stay in their contained groups

summer barn
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I have. I went to the convention in my city last summer

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and I go out with others, Not just my "group"

twin lagoon
#

rainfurrest

summer barn
#

No

twin lagoon
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) The Failure of Rainfurrest - length 7m 15s - 184,355 likes, 4,682 dislikes (97.5%) - 9,404,564 views - Internet Historian on 2017.07.16

summer barn
#

WPFC 2019

limber knotBOT
#

oh god I'm watching a video of him rn

unreal quarry
#

wtf, i step away for 2 seconds and this place turns into furry central

#

fml

summer barn
#

i stay away from that kind of stuff thats like "wtf"

#

Just bc some ppl are into stuff, doesnt mean everyone is

limber knotBOT
#

you don't need to defend yourself lmao

twin lagoon
#

dt 990 pro 250ohm

#

with fiio k3 dac

summer barn
#

IM not just talking about myself

unreal quarry
#

for real @summer barn.. you brought it up.. just to defend yourself? lets not.

summer barn
#

there are lots that are like me

twin lagoon
#

they are

#

the only decent gaming headphones are hyperx's and coolermaster's mh752

limber knotBOT
#

senheisers are nice too

summer barn
#

But yea @unreal quarry I brought it up bc i see they way its talked about here

twin lagoon
#

not a fan of sennheiser's sound signatre

#

beyerdynamic however pog

limber knotBOT
#

tho I use a standing mic, cause practially all headphone mics literally suck ass or will break after a few months

twin lagoon
#

modmic usb is nice

#

the previous modmics are pretty bad because they're not USB & have lots of background noise

unreal quarry
#

yeah, lets not talk about it in here @summer barn, smh

twin lagoon
#

the modmic usb released just a week after i bought my mic setup

#

which fucking sucks, would've bought that over my at2020

cedar spade
#

I love it when GitHub just decides to log me out for no reason

twin lagoon
#

gitlab boi

limber knotBOT
#

maybe there is a reason?

#

they obviously want to prevent you from managing your code

#

or repo

#

see you in a week and 2 days then

unreal quarry
#

are we trying to hit sensitive subjects here today?

cedar spade
#

Apparently so

#

meh EssentialsX can be left to rot for a day

limber knotBOT
#

cause he's not not that md

cedar spade
#

okay force closed Firefox and now it's fine Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

#

...people do

sand vale
#

Alright, so, brand new 1.15.1 server, running only WorldBorder. Border size of 10240^2 (square, not circular). Taking 8:51 seconds to get to 1%. At this rate, will be done just over 14 hours.

twin lagoon
#

dynmap is pretty quick

#

not using databases for dynmap

#

lmao

#

think i had a 7.5kx7.5k world in dynmap

#

at smooth lighting & high settings

#

and 3d at an angle

#

was around 50G?

summer barn
#

Im pregenerating a 6.5k ^2 map

#

without dynmap

sand vale
#

anyways, 14 hours is faaaar below the 80-some hours @hard kernel was saying his smaller (10k^2, circular) world would take...

summer barn
#

im using worldborder fill

sand vale
#

same paints

summer barn
#

It will take about 12 hours

#

its 55% done and been about 5 - 6 hours

#

?

#

ok

#

ah

void void
sand vale
#

i7 7700k should be at least on par?

summer barn
#

Id like to share one of my builds now too

sand vale
#

Yeah. I forgot to put the other 64GBs in the server last time I maintenanced it

twin lagoon
#

7700k should be faster even

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especially an overclocked one

#

i'll stick to an e-2136g

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or the 2274g

sand vale
#

Yeah. So, why is @hard kernel's pre-gen taking almost 3.5 days?

twin lagoon
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

#

i have heard of reliablesite's i9 being underclocked

summer barn
#

mIne is taking 12 hours bc of custom terrain

#

well "custom" = non vanilla

twin lagoon
#

why would you have one as server-icon

summer barn
#

My server icon is set to show the player their MC skins face

sand vale
#

You'll want to check with Canonical's licensing... but pretty sure it's actually trademarked, with an acceptable use policy... which includes advertising of services (repairs, hosting, etc)

#

not sure it covers using it as a logo for other projects, software... or minecraft servers

summer barn
#

My servers icon is variable xD

sand vale
#

We have 4 or 5 icons which rotate depending on the player count

cosmic raft
#

wheee

limber knotBOT
#

Wow

#

daas cold

summer barn
#

Here it sometimes gets -40

limber knotBOT
#

holy shiz that cold

#

i haz questioon

void void
#

good morning fellow gamers

limber knotBOT
#

i have portainer on port 9000 and i configured the reverse proxy on my nginx config to point to that on https://panel.minusmc.com/portainer/#/ but i have thelounge on port 5000 aand sometimes it goes to portainer doesnt work and shows thelounge without css

#

it keeps loading and fails

void void
#

-_-

#

wrong channel and use a normal account not BOT

limber knotBOT
#

hmm

#

wdym

void void
#

You know exactly what i mean

limber knotBOT
#

why cant i use bot

void void
#

tos

limber knotBOT
#

xD

#

this is irc

void void
#

tos

limber knotBOT
#

.g dis4irc

#

(DoctorDop) https://github.com/zachbr/Dis4IRC -- zachbr/Dis4IRC: A modern Discord <-> IRC bridge - GitHub: "Dis4IRC. A modern Discord <-> IRC Bridge. Published under the MIT License. Features. Markdown and Modern IRC Client Features; Paste support for..."

void void
#

-_-

limber knotBOT
#

i use thelounge

void void
#

for a person that wants to get banned yeah

limber knotBOT
#

its not violating the tos

#

are you brain ded

void void
#

it does buddy

limber knotBOT
#

where?

#

bye now

latent valve
#

πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ he's gonnne

limber knotBOT
#

who?

#

"you can't be braindead without a brain sorry to make you sad" im dyslexic what does this mean xD

pulsar wigeon
#

lmao

#

was that guy trolling

#

nvm i forgot this is paper discord

#

definitely retarded

limber knotBOT
#

he should have looked at that git repo

#

im 100% sure this bot isnt against the tos

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean, it's a webhook really

#

on discord's end

cosmic raft
#

yes

pulsar wigeon
#

people don't realize the difference

static badge
#

This is discord

#

If people on discord realized anything LilPog

upbeat iron
limber knotBOT
#

I always like ppl enforcing the TOS for other ppl

#

Like, why do you care?

#

Like featherboard posts on spigot

#

First reply is always someone checking if the user ID is in Maxim's buyers list

wide chasm
#

I only report people if I actually care about the rule that is being broken. If someone breaks a rule, but I don't care about that rule, I won't report that post.

void void
#

[18:34] BOTMiniDigger: Like, why do you care?

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this

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like why the fuck

#

can't find other reason than random bullying

shell vine
#

popeyes spicy chicken sandwhich is so good 10/10

sleek citrus
hard kernel
#

Lol I found a solution

#

If I stop the server right before it runs out of memory and start it again it resumes.. pretty big burden considering I run out of memory every 5-10 min.

latent valve
#

How is it running out of memory?

hard kernel
#

Wb fill

latent valve
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

heady spear
#

hi sexies :)))

cosmic raft
#

hello @heady spear

heady spear
#

😻

hard kernel
#

Hi

static badge
woven otter
#

catshike

pulsar furnace
#

pretty big burden considering I run out of memory every 5-10 min.
What exact command did you start the fill with? You may have set it a little high

hard kernel
#

Default

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Default is 20?

pulsar furnace
#

Yeah, If you're running out of memory often, you might want to lower that

#

It'll take longer, but you won't need to restart as much

unreal quarry
#

smh, still doesnt listen lol

hard kernel
#

I hear you but I unlike you have more than 2 players in my server bro .. they wanna play.. trying to get this finished as fast as possible.

obsidian hearth
#

What even

olive garden
#

lmao

obsidian hearth
#

If you make the process slower, the performance hit will be lower. If you want to go faster, use a better machine

olive garden
#

🍿

unreal quarry
#

Smfh

hard kernel
#

Idk what better machines there are for minecraft then an i9 9900k

#

Was told this is one of the best

obsidian hearth
#

One with enough ram to handle default wb fill

#

How much are you allocating to server process

hard kernel
#

Lol they told me not to use more ram

pulsar wigeon
#

server running out of ram
flexes cpu

hard kernel
#

Yall said if I allocate more ram it wont do shit

pulsar wigeon
#

you're obviously new to hardware in general

obsidian hearth
#

I feel like I'm being wooshed

#

Is this bad trolling

hard kernel
#

I have plenty of ram

unreal quarry
#

He's just new to PCs, guys

#

Cut him some slack :p

pulsar wigeon
hard kernel
#

Should I allocate more than 15 gb ram?

obsidian hearth
#

Unless your 2 or more players insist on exploring γ€Œ n o w 」just use a smaller value.

void void
unreal quarry
#

You can allocate 64gb... The wb fill will still make it fill up faster than it can unload those chunks cause you won't slow the fuck down

hard kernel
#

One with enough ram to handle default wb fill

obsidian hearth
#

Don't take my sarcasm as gospel lmao

#

(that number, by the way, is probably north of 512GB, sorry guy)

hard kernel
#

I only have 64 I think

unreal quarry
#

OMG.. listen. Chunks don't behave the same anymore. They are slow to load, and slow to unload. Wb fill force loads them. Quite quickly compared to what the server is capable of. The default values for the fill task are not good anymore. You must slow it down a bit if you want to get anywhere

hard kernel
#

Is anyone working on improving this plugin?

unreal quarry
#

If you don't care and want to push it hard, fine. Just stop bitching about it here. You're just going to get the same advice everytime ..

hard kernel
#

I'm at 82 percent.. ur method would start me back at 0%

unreal quarry
#

Ffs

obsidian hearth
#

That's not how fill works

unreal quarry
#

I don't even know what to say to you anymore.. I've explained it all, even that, many many times

hard kernel
#

I was asking if adding more ram would make me have to stop start the server less... u answered my question here You can allocate 64gb... The wb fill will still make it fill up faster than it can unload those chunks cause you won't slow the fuck down

unreal quarry
#

You're asking to be spoon-fed. If you learned anything from what I've said you'd realize you can slow it down AND set force to false... But noooooo, you don't learn. You just take something I said weeks ago and latch onto it, if oring any new information provided to you as time progresses

hard kernel
#

Ok is 15 ok instead of 5

unreal quarry
#

might be. i told you 5 as a fucking example

#

you latched on, tho

hard kernel
#

Yes

shell vine
#

just give it 30G

#

then you will only need to restart every 15 mins instead of 5

void void
#

i didnt even notice @heady spear left, but welcome back...i guess

hard kernel
#

60G will mean 30 min?

#

Big brain

pulsar furnace
#

Depends where the bottleneck is at that point...

shell vine
#

means the server will prob kill it

hard kernel
#

I'm kidding there

pulsar furnace
#

If it's not the RAM, it's the CPU. If it's not the CPU, it's the disk speed...

void void
#

the bottleneck is mc chunks, which is what people have been saying for what seems to be the last hour maybe more.

shell vine
#

yes

void void
#

they are slow.

shell vine
#

just make them fast 5head

hard kernel
#

I am slow

#

15 chunks per sec is the secret number if anyone cares

twin lagoon
#

i use 100 chunks per sec

hard kernel
#

What if I said I am not actually preloading any world

#

And just meming

twin lagoon
#

your performance is yours

#

not ours

celest coyote
#

Some people just don't learn

tropic flame
#

it's 2020 and I still don't know why Windows XP has a folder icon from Windows Vista/7

limber knotBOT
#

you can define the icon a folder hast in a file inside the folder

dry sentinel
hard kernel
#

I wipe nether world every month.. can I pregen this on a different server and just move it in to my main server on wipe?

limber knotBOT
#

probably, just have to make sure to move the right files

placid thicket
#

if you do that, make sure that you generate the nether using the same seed, or else you will have weird issues pop up if a chunk ever gets regened or repaired

hard kernel
#

Ok yay ty

limber knotBOT
#

I just move the region files tbh

#

or wait, I do that for the end. iirc. you want to copy stuff like structure data file for the nether too

#

(I change the seed though)

#

also players that are logged out in the nether will log back in at the same coordinates which might kill them if they are in the wall or above lava...

hard kernel
#

Ok well this will be convenient... less down time..

#

Idk if they die... that's what they get for chilling in hell

#

=D

placid thicket
#

ill be honest, thats a great way to lose players. make sure you give warning

unreal quarry
#

rip nether farms

heady spear
#

@void void I didn’t leave 😐 I was kicked lmao

void void
unreal quarry
#

its the fbi! hide the furries

limber knotBOT
#

leash 'em boys

sand vale
#

\^_^ hi.

heady spear
#

@sand vale hi babe why do you never talk to me anymore miss u lots xoxo

sand vale
#

no Russian character on my kb

heady spear
#

Ρ…ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΡˆΠΎ

sand vale
#

yeah, that.

hard kernel
#

Players know the nether wipes every month

sand vale
#

end wipes weekly

hard kernel
#

No haha both monthly

cedar spade
#

@tropic flame that's from IE7 I think

#

no idea why it does that but I've seen it before

hard kernel
#

Not that one. Hmmmmmm

tropic flame
#

ooooh, I see

hard kernel
#

Good plan z

cosmic raft
#

@sand vale hihi

sand vale
#

Hello :)

#

@cosmic raft how goes?

limber knotBOT
#

how runs?

sand vale
#

how walks.

limber knotBOT
#

asking the right questions!

void void
#

how sexual relations?

limber knotBOT
#

very simple

sand vale
#

find a girl on the internet, and tell her you're going to swim in her pool.

#

shrugs worked for me. lol

limber knotBOT
#

slap your pp around

unreal quarry
#

brb, dropping the kids off at the pool

#

wait, wrong pool?

limber knotBOT
#

into the pool?

void void
#

i wasnt asking how to

#

i was asking how

#

as in

#

how are your sexual relations [recently]?

#

its a greeting

limber knotBOT
#

ah yes, how I greet my friends everyday

void void
#

we should

#

brotherly support

#

(and sisterly i guess)

sand vale
#

norse drinking hall socialization

void void
#

your sexual relations have been akin to norse drinking hall socialization? i see....

#

sounds...rousing.

cosmic raft
#

@sand vale good :) how are you

sand vale
#

Doing f'ing amazing dude :D

void void
#

he's been well if his sexual relations are anything to say about his general wellbeing

cosmic raft
sand vale
#

lots of beer & innuendo. :D

cosmic raft
#

53 files changed, 383 insertions(+), 264 deletions(-)

#

wheee

limber knotBOT
#

whooo

cosmic raft
#

not bad for a short amount of time :P

limber knotBOT
#

what for?

cosmic raft
#

THINGS.

limber knotBOT
#

nic,e I love things!

#

rip the comma

cosmic raft
#

make that

#

53 files changed, 404 insertions(+), 278 deletions(-)

limber knotBOT
#

pokes KennyTV

#

slaps Vertanzil

#

GOOOD GOOOD

void void
#

Which plugin offers the command "/playtime"?

#

(Ping me)

limber knotBOT
#

.g playtime bukkit plugin

#

(phoenix616) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/playtime.26016/ -- PlayTime | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft: "Playtime is a simple plugin that i made to allow players to view their time played or another player's time played on the server. playtime is..."

void void
#

Thx

limber knotBOT
#

googling really is hard

#

only if you're hard

#

0_o

#

Did you sort your monster plugin ^-^

#

wtf are you on about

#

the thing you where working on the other week when you was streaming

#

Worldbosses

#

yeah it's all in baby

#

dev version currently has everything

#

but it's basically ready for production

#

I just have not had the time to publish it n stuff

#

also been working on some peripheral stuff to it

cosmic raft
#
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@void void :P

void void
#

what output that?

cosmic raft
quasi valley
#
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fallen oracle
limber knotBOT
#

a german, classic

#

download bot me daddy

pulsar wigeon
#

lmfao what

#

posted 7 minutes ago, 35k dls already?

limber knotBOT
#

it's a popular plugin

#

he's already got me beat by like 3k dls

static badge
#

Pog what a god

limber knotBOT
#

magma won't miss an opportunity to flex with his own count

#

I'd never flex my 32,310 downloads

#

that'd just be in poor taste

#

πŸ˜‚

#

imagine me reminding everyone I've got the top #3 best rated plugin on the mechanics section

#

that's just uncharacteristic

#

it's like me reminding everyone that my beard > their beard

fallen oracle
#

wiz, it was originally posted Friday

pulsar wigeon
#

did he delete a previous file?

fallen jungle
#

Came from discussion on #paper-dev - how come Cuberite isn't a "custom c++ server"?

pulsar wigeon
#

it's not a custom bedrock server

orchid pelican
#

is nukkit a full reimplementation?

pulsar wigeon
#

which is what the question was, i thought

fallen jungle
#

ah bedrock yeah

pulsar wigeon
#

it's a c++ java edition server

#

yes, every bedrock server is a full reimplementation

#

since, as was said, the official server is compiled c++

#

so you can't really just mod it

orchid pelican
#

so nukkit only supports bedrock clients though

pulsar wigeon
#

it's a bedrock server yes...

#

despite the name, it has nothing to do with bukkit

#

they just modelled their api on bukkit

static badge
#

only wussies don't mod native compiled code

orchid pelican
#

i mean in the IOS scene we use substrate to hook compiled runtime code

fallen jungle
#

Impressive that somebody managed to pull off a full reimplementation

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean, those servers are always a bit lacking on features

cosmic raft
#

time to go to work

fallen jungle
#

Where do you live? Canada?

cosmic raft
#

yup

fallen jungle
#

oh

#

it literally says there

#

welp

pulsar wigeon
#

also substrate can only replace calls pretty much

limber knotBOT
#

oh boy, have fun

pulsar wigeon
#

it's a super weak version of mixins

orchid pelican
#

substrate can call back to orignal funtions

#

but substrate is very powerful yet i dont know how different objc and c++ would be in that sense

#

someone should write a wrapper to allow bedrock connections to a nomral java edition server

static badge
#

ok I keep on seeing this

#

why

limber knotBOT
#

because people are rarted

static badge
#

why java < --- > bedrock

orchid pelican
static badge
#

what do you get from iot

pulsar wigeon
#

you don't really tbh

#

people just like forcing issues

orchid pelican
#

its just a concept

#

would never run that in production

limber knotBOT
#

not even working doesnt mean being "a thing"

pulsar wigeon
#

it's like via plugins

#

sure you can get 1.8 and 1.15 clients on the same server

#

but they see entirely different things and so on

limber knotBOT
orchid pelican
#

Ye i never run viaversion on production lol

#

it creates a lot of werid issues imo

#

and i think that proxy is dead ye

#

but again, cool concept

fallen jungle
#

"Player movement" checkmark missing?

#

And inventory support

#

yikes

#

oh and block placing.. I see

orchid pelican
#

concept

sand vale
#

it works well enough to hop on and ban ppl lol

rapid tangle
void void
#
#

wtf

#

i was hella scrolled

#

anyway

#

whatever

orchid pelican
#

wow that looks like a finished product lol

void void
#

havent tried it

orchid pelican
#

last commit was 2 days ago

void void
#

yea seems active

#

cant vouch tho

limber knotBOT
#

ive used it just to test

orchid pelican
#

is it good?

limber knotBOT
#

made me want to die

#

not worth it

#

just buy java

orchid pelican
#

why?

#

why was it so bad?

limber knotBOT
#

it uses alot of cpu it was slow there was latency also fuck bedrock

void void
#

you would need a java account anyway, to join a java server with this

#

unless it's offline

#

which may or may not be the point

#

but Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

heady spear
void void
#

he said it not me

limber knotBOT
#

i think porting java to android would be better xD

#

.g java minecraft on android

#

(DoctorDop) https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/ -- Download Minecraft: Java Edition | Minecraft: "Download Minecraft: Java Edition to start your adventure! Explore, build ... iOS; Android; Windows Phone; Kindle Fire; Gear VR; Apple TV; Fire TV...."

orchid pelican
#

I said it looked done

#

didnt say it was

void void
#

i could see this being useful for admins, who dont want to get on their pc

#

they could join with bedrock on their phone

#

have full chat

pulsar wigeon
#

y tho

void void
#

i mean, i dunno

#

just, usable

pulsar wigeon
#

just chat through console/plugin/panel/whatev

void void
#

not amazing for sure

#

but usable

#

yea, that's good as well

#

but there are some people who would enjoy it

#

im sure

pulsar wigeon
#

like, the niche is so unbelievably small

void void
#

this is true

pulsar wigeon
#

whatever, i'm not spending time on it

void void
#

:p

plucky quiver
#

hello guys i have a question

pulsar wigeon
#

like, if someone wants to do it as a pet project whatever

#

but if someone actually thinks this is a useful good idea, pepega

void void
#

.ask

limber knotBOT
#

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

void void
#

wiz I just think it's a novelty and I know some people would use it

limpid cedar
void void
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) How To Join Java Servers On Minecraft Bedrock Edition - length 5m 30s - 366 likes, 18 dislikes (95.3%) - 9,263 views - dakonblackrose on 2019.12.19

void void
#

Right there he joins from xbox to a java server. Looks like shit yes. But pretty cool

orchid pelican
#

thats really cool ngl

#

he still needed to use a java edition account though

void void
#

yes

#

thats how you join online servers

orchid pelican
#

so no point for pc players

void void
#

that's correct, that's why it's novelty

orchid pelican
#

yes

void void
#

there really is no point other than that

#

it is cool though

orchid pelican
#

unless there was a way to uniquely authenticate an xbox id

void void
#

i mean like i said

#

you can turn auth off, and let offline players join

#

in that case, they dont get the auth popup

#

but

#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

orchid pelican
#

thats exactly what no one should do

void void
#

yeah so your vision is what then

orchid pelican
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well i mean custom authentication which supports both xbox and java accounts

plucky quiver
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hey whats the difference between an xeon and i7 linux server

void void
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xbox players havent paid for MC Java edition, they paid for bedrock. How are they supposed to join an online java server w/o a java account

plucky quiver
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with one is better

orchid pelican
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there has to be some authentifation method xbox uses

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concept

void void
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get as high of a score as you can

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@orchid pelican of course xbox auths. but it auths for a bedrock account

orchid pelican
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3rd gen ryzen is pretty good

void void
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not a java account

orchid pelican
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a custom authentication implementation could support both at the same time

void void
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you arent entitled to java servers bc you own bedrock edition

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theyre two different games

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but why would mojang add that

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thats not their goal

orchid pelican
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not mojang lol im saying it would be a nice concept

void void
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its not like they havent done it bc they dont know how

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yeah, but that will never be added to the core game period

orchid pelican
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yes but like a third party could

void void
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so the only option for what you want is to run an offline server

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sure by running their own auth servers lol.

orchid pelican
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exactky lol

void void
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wtf

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im over this

orchid pelican
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haha im not trying to get on your nerves im just saying it would be kinda cool

void void
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sure but it's retarded at that point

orchid pelican
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exactly

void void
orchid pelican
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proof of concept have you seen ces this year? cant be worse than some of those concepts

void void
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i have not

fallen oracle
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Sony made a car.

void void
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you wot

cosmic raft
fallen oracle
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Snow looks pretty

void void
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what happened there kashike

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why are there policia

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void void
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it doesnt appear to be configured to support that

upper flicker
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would have to double check the standard on that

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afaik most of them let you auth with services/input a pw to services and then go through

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which you would do with the raw command list in the config

latent valve
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oh raw command saw that
thank z

upper flicker
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I suppose you could send a raw join too

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not really tested but it should just work

latent valve
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Z750 it work the join comamnd

potent warren
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Is there a world agnostic Location object?

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.g agnostic

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potent warren
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whoops

static badge
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no

potent warren
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Isn't it agnostic?

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denoting or relating to hardware or software that is compatible with many types of platform or operating system.

void void
upper flicker
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technically the location object is world agnostic

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in that you dont have to give it a world

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the bukkit API really shouldnt allow that

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but it does

potent warren
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πŸ€”

upper flicker
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and if you pass it around to the right places and to other plugins, you can watch tons of shit explode

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dont do that though fingerguns

static badge
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yay fireworks

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bukkit was ahead of mojang on that one

upper flicker
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anyway

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I've seen plugins use vectors for that

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I've seen plugins make up their own thing

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and unfortunately I have seen one or two use locations