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#general
twin lagoon
viral hornet
no heathen
golden gust
1.13 is feature frozen sooooo...
acoustic pilot
y u no support 1.8
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feature frozen 
grim prairie
Anyone able to help me with ptero panel?
golden gust
Optimizations, sure, i guess
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can I bake it and make it cooked features
golden gust
Features, eeeeehhh.... maybe? potentially not π€·ββοΈ
twin lagoon
why
hollow igloo
Awesome, thanks
twin lagoon
there's always Waterdog which is waterfall w/ bedrock
sharp sentinel
Ngl bedrock protocol would be unironically useful
sand vale
π₯’ π―
twin lagoon
it would be cool
sharp sentinel
How well does Waterdog work?
sand vale
waterdog?
twin lagoon
waterdog just adds bedrock protocol support
can't join java servers w/ bedrock ofc
afaik it works well
sharp sentinel
I mean, does it implement the protocol well
twin lagoon
allow you to proxy bedrock & java servers with one proxy?
golden gust
it's bungee for PE, basically
sharp sentinel
Oh, it doesnβt translate?
twin lagoon
no
sand vale
Oh!
twin lagoon
there are projects that have attempted to or are still working on it
sharp sentinel
Idk translation is kind of the main thing I see as useful π
sand vale
I know ProtocolSupport had a bedrock branch, but it's been frozen and new branch isn't public :(
twin lagoon
sharp sentinel
Nah I just looked at their todo list and dismissed it as not usable yet π
sand vale
ahh, thanks.
main rapids
Does anyone use netbeans?
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md5
limber knotBOT
hes like the one lost soul
sand vale
I'd still love to see a way for the xbox credentials to be the only thing needed for players to connect to java edition
golden gust
two different auth systems
sharp sentinel
Easy, just make a protocol adapter with a neural network, and train it by making Java edition and Win10 edition behave the same for the same input, and look identical π
golden gust
Deal
sand vale
right, but if the proxy itself handled that, even if there was a plugin on the backend to create an auth token or something
golden gust
But, only if we get to use blockchain
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or just start up java edition and connect
sand vale
There's dragonproxy too. I used it some time back, but it was flakey... lke 2 years ago though?
sharp sentinel
Looks like it doesnβt support movement based on their checklist?
acoustic pilot
is H2 practical for production or better off with SQLite? only really seen H2 used for testing
sharp sentinel
Or breaking and placing blocks
golden gust
I mean, I kinda can't see somebody pulling off a super nice proxy based setup, tbh
LP uses h2
sharp sentinel
Ah
acoustic pilot
interesting, so performance-wise SQLite probably wins but H2 does allow you to write Java-based stored procedures
golden gust
Honestly don't recall seeing any performance benchmarks, tbh
In part my aim for going for h2 is that it's not really going to be a critical performance hit, and literally can't be worse than the flatfile mcmmo currently uses :L
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native = faster 
acoustic pilot
yeah the performance gains in the context of plugin data stored on disk is prob irrelevant between the two
golden gust
I mean, critical performance issue
I mean, we literally read a text file line by line until we find a match :L
pulsar wigeon
imagine preoptimizing I/O that shouldn't be MT anyway :^)
golden gust
Shouldn't or isn't 
Rewriting all of mcmmos data handling is pretty much near the top of my todo list for that project
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projects are just data handling change my mind
golden gust
I mean, that's really all computers do
Just moving data from one place to another with some heavy diddling
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diddling 
pulsar wigeon
diddle that data
acoustic pilot
this is going in a weird direction
1.14 getting dropped fast, must be that terrible lol
sharp sentinel
1.14 is just shitty 1.15 tho
elder panther
sharp sentinel
Doesnβt even have bees, literally unplayable
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1.15 is a bit better 1.14
acoustic pilot
do people still ask for cannoning?
acoustic pilot
i got a barebones fork of 1.15 set up thought i might play around with shit again π
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woeful hull
meh either way it's still crap to remove support until you know for sure that the final release of 1.15 is finalized by Mojang. They do after all seem to tell you when they put out the final update to a version.
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no reasoning no argument worth listening to
golden gust
At the moment that you start paying for support, we'll consider it
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money
viral hornet
How's it crap to remove support, though?
golden gust
Until then, this is free software of which we already have enough hassle tryna maintain 3 releases
acoustic pilot
team's gonna prioritize their efforts where it matters the most, makes sense to me lol
1.13 is old and 1.14 is a waste of everyone's time
golden gust
We was intending to drop 1.14 well before 1.13, just, practically nobody is using 1.13
woeful hull
well if we're gonna go by that logic, you should drop support for anything above 1.12 due to the fact everything above 1.12 only gets used on smaller networks.
while all massive networks use 1.12
acoustic pilot
doesn't seem like the same logic to me but ok lol
woeful hull
I mean if we're going by what has the most users, it is
viral hornet
golden gust
We don't care about what has the most users
We care about supporting the latest release
We however opted to maintain older versions to some capacity for a while given the nature of the upgrade path being kinda shitty
acoustic pilot
the fact that paper offers support for any older release is still a generosity too considering spigot doesn't support anything except the latest release.
not like the paper team is being paid to offer this support
viral hornet
Where's a wizjany when you need one
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ping him and find out
golden gust
There is literally no sane reason that we can see for people to stick on 1.14, if you wana do it for plugin reasons or just "I don't wanna be on non-final" that's your call, just it's literally not worth our time tryna maintain 1.14 and 1.15, when they're practically the same
woeful hull
well in truth, doesn't matter to me much either way. Paper is pretty simple to use once you understand basic configs.
acoustic pilot
yeah 1.14 seems fundamentally unworkable and the best answer is almost always "upgrade to 1.15"
so makes sense to drop it early
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1.15 is also trash byte
woeful hull
exactly
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it's just not on fire
acoustic pilot
still seems they made improvements over 1.14, hopefully it's a trend
golden gust
Yea, but at least it's not 1.14
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thx for repeating me
golden gust
1.15 is literally 1.14 with bees and performance improvements
woeful hull
eh... from what I've heard not really, bees cause some major issue from what I've heard.
golden gust
Not really
woeful hull
oh? they fixed the lag they cause?
golden gust
There was some issues which have been fixed by spigot and some by us
golden gust
But, in general, they've far from been an issue outside of people being morons and spawning hundreds of them
acoustic pilot
backporting spigot fixes to 1.14 seems like a waste of effort
woeful hull
lol spawning is something I sure as hell won't be allowing players to do, they can get bees naturally screw spawn eggs
unreal quarry
looks over at his 'saplings can generate bee hives' patch and smiles
so much ignorance
smfh
woeful hull
oh?
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billy and his fork 
unreal quarry
i just think its crazy how so many people make all these accusations based on ignorance
acoustic pilot
fork of a fork of a fork of a fork
woeful hull
actually... i talked with someone who keeps an eye on a lot of the mechanics of the updates and issues with them. So that's kind of where I've gotten my info from for the bees and lag.
viral hornet
You should stop talking to them
woeful hull
He did say some of the bugs have been getting fixed by members in the community
to make it less hard on servers.
golden gust
Honestly
There has been a patch to the hives themselves to stop some performance issues around trying to keep releasing bees when it's not viable to do so
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from who
golden gust
and we have a fix for bees tryna load chunks to find if their hive is still valid, which generally shouldn't be an issue
woeful hull
Real question is, how well does it run on a hosting site over 1.14's performance?
golden gust
Overall, assuming that you've not gone stupid with the # of bees, they're far from an issue
acoustic pilot
what kind of numbers can a typical SMP pull on paper 1.15?
with high end hardware
unreal quarry
if I had to put versions on a 1-10 scale based on performance... I'd put 1.12 at a 10, and 1.14 at a 0... obvisouly.. 1.13 would be a 6, and 1.15 would be a 2 or 3. So with that said, anyone still on 1.14 is just hurting themselves when they could easily update to 1.15 and get a bit of a perf boost
golden gust
I've seen servers that struggled to maintain 50ish players handle 75ish with muuuch less issues
main rapids
Does anyone have a .sh file to run the jar?
golden gust
I've also seen some 1.15 servers pull 100ish players
java -jar paper.jar
.flags if you wanna be fancy
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
acoustic pilot
pretty good if you can optimize to 100
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poor bot
100ish is probably the max you'll get without really murdering entities and really killing view distance tbh
golden gust
yea, it's far from super great, tbh
But, most of the people having issues are those who are just boneidol or running on potatos
main rapids
We are at version 1.15 and the jar have not yet released the player date on mysql
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acoustic pilot
damn, 2020 and there still isn't a good skyblock plugin >_>
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make one
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isn't it all just "blank world gen"
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"tp other players to ur floating island which you really just paid to get the items for"
acoustic pilot
yeah it's actually just a void world gen with an island schematic pasted in when someone makes an island lol
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guess I shouldn't underestimate the minecraft plugin market
celest coyote
Just because bees lag in vanilla doesn't mean they lag in paper
Likewise for chunkloading π€ͺ
void void
1.15 is the future πͺπ€
golden gust
I've honestly not even heard of them lagging in vanilla
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time to benchmark bees actually
forgot that was on my todo
hell yeah they are
been that way since 1.13
not as bad as 1.13 but still as bad as 1.14
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although really mojang should burn all their streams
golden gust
(I really just wanna give you an aneurism or something π )
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make it like a desert
although their poi shit really triggers the shit out of me
searching for something in a radius is literally searching every fucking block in the radius
and it's all streams
just 87 bees is 25ms a tick :L
golden gust
gg
void void
What is voxel shapes?
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BlockPosition blockposition = new BlockPosition(EntityBee.this);
BlockPosition.MutableBlockPosition blockposition_mutableblockposition = new BlockPosition.MutableBlockPosition();
for (int i = 0; (double) i <= d0; i = i > 0 ? -i : 1 - i) {
for (int j = 0; (double) j < d0; ++j) {
for (int k = 0; k <= j; k = k > 0 ? -k : 1 - k) {
for (int l = k < j && k > -j ? j : 0; l <= j; l = l > 0 ? -l : 1 - l) {
blockposition_mutableblockposition.g(blockposition).e(k, i - 1, l);
if (blockposition.a((BaseBlockPosition) blockposition_mutableblockposition, d0) && predicate.test(EntityBee.this.world.getType(blockposition_mutableblockposition))) {
return Optional.of(blockposition_mutableblockposition);
}
}
}
}
}
return Optional.empty();
wtf is this
pine field
Cursed code
shell vine
bentobox/bskyblock isnt bad
acoustic pilot
prob not as bad as ASkyBlock (that plugin has left me traumatized) but i dislike the whole addon system
acoustic seal
Rip dropping 1.14.4 support as I'm still stuck on it thanks to half our damn plugins
unreal quarry
you know most plugins dont require an update, yeah?
only those that use nms/internals do
dusk drift
A good 80% of my stuff is fine on 1.15, only big plugins like Anticheat needed an update
golden gust
I mean, I wouldn't wanna rely on a plugin that hasn't updated by now
Either the plugin is crazy complex, which, I guess some level of fairness, or the dev doesn't care
fallen oracle
What if it didn't need changes?
Would you prefer they just push a version number change?
mossy kayak
void void
i needed just about 0 updates
i just switched the jar and went off to the moon
havent gotten any crashes, so idk what you ppl are doing
but stop being rarts and just update
golden gust
mfw simple telling people not to be rarts
void void
you know its bad when i have to resort to that
olive garden
@fallen oracle frankly, yes
void void
yall are babies
void void
babies being babies
unreal quarry
inb4 plugin changelogs start looking like this to cater to the rarts
v11.0 (1.15.1):
* No changes
v10.0 (1.15):
* No changes
v9.0 (1.14.4):
* No changes
v8.0 (1.14.3):
* No changes
v7.0 (1.14.2):
* No changes
v6.0 (1.14.1):
* No changes
v5.0 (1.14):
* No changes
v4.0 (1.13.2):
* No changes
v3.0 (1.13.1):
* No changes
v2.0 (1.13):
* No changes
v1.0 (1.12.2):
* Initial release!
also inb4 some rando fills review out with "1 out of 5 stars: Plugin stopped working when I updated from v7 to v8" lol
even tho nothing changed
void void
you know it will happen
fallen oracle
That's how you get them
crystal compass
bro
so
Out of absolutely nowhere
410k subscriber youtuber joins my server
and plays for 8 hours with his friends
and hes gonna do a video for 200$ and he said I dont have to pay him until after its live.
I feel like god blessed me today
unreal quarry
you feel that way now.. wait until you realize you paid to have hackers, cheaters, and just plain rude trolls join your server en masse
fallen oracle
^^
fallen oracle
Oh it can be hell on Earth
Next he'll want to do a Livestream
It'll crash your server
crystal compass
I cant imagine it will bring that many players though
unreal quarry
it wont last. they leave just as fast as they join
fallen oracle
It just depends. I've worked with multiple YouTubers and one network ended up having 1000 people try to login at once.
But yeah they leave quickly too
crystal compass
hm
well I only average like 20-30 players online currently
so I was hopeing it would be good
unreal quarry
20-30 is something to be proud of. thats the perfect amount, imho
olive garden
I totally agree, that's why that huge storm of randoms might not be the best for you
unreal quarry
anything less is boring, and anything more is chaos
dusk drift
Agreed
crystal compass
well thank you
fallen oracle
Unless you have multiple serverssss
fallen oracle
It's a big step
crystal compass
dont want to spreadd out players and end up losing
fallen oracle
Fair
crystal compass
I just feel like its a big opportunity to grow my server
void void
you gotta play your cards masterfully
if you dont, you paid to get fucked
welcome to the gay bar
bend over
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white theme helps with that
crystal compass
I havent paid anything yet, im paying him after he uploads
dusk drift
The burst from Youtube etc can overwhelm ur current player base and ruin the community
crystal compass
mm
shell vine
just take it
cosmic raft
hi
olive garden
hello
golden gust
I mean, nothing really changes
Only real thing would be lacking API and maybe depending on how old it is they didn't have an event system as much as some class with a ton of methods
void void
if you must use such an old version and need events that dont exist, you can always fork and add the events yourself
olive garden
make sure to use a patch system for your fork, so in case there's a Bukkit update for beta 1.7.3 you can apply it π
main rapids
there bugs in 1.15.x?
golden gust
main rapids
void void
check mojira for 1.15 bugs
minecraft is not likely to be bug free, like ever
so, there bugs? yes. there bugs.
playable? ye
nothing gamebreaking ive seen, personally
main rapids
@void void ty!
olive garden
Are you trying to set up some sort of nostalgy server?
wow, I actually remembered the trailer for beta 1.7
golden gust
a long ass fucking time ago, in a town called kickapoo
olive garden
bows that don't have to be charged, food that is eaten instantly, no sprinting
I guess it really is the nostalgy version
shell vine
olive garden
π€
Launching beta 1.7 from the launcher is possible
random question: do static discharges happen when you touch a grounded or when you touch an ungrounded object? Or is it both?
main rapids
1.5.2 >>>
limber knotBOT
yea, i like beta 1.7.3 too :D
golden gust
static discharge touches whenever you touch something with a different potential
The issue is more electronics which are sensitive to static discharges, just make sure to ground yourself first
(Worth noting that that also requires that you ground the thing you're working on too π )
olive garden
yeah, I tap my radiator before touching the inner parts of my PC
golden gust
leave the PC plugged in and touch the case
olive garden
but I just touched the case and it gave me a small shock
so I wonder... is the case grounded?
limber knotBOT
if its connected to the power network it should be grounded
golden gust
Means that you was at a different potential, all that really means
The only reason for the bracelets etc is to try to ensure that you remain permenantly grounded
olive garden
So this shock thing can occur even if I touch an ungrounded thing, right?
golden gust
Yes
golden gust
ever touched a door handle or something and got a zap? π
olive garden
tbh, I don't remember door handles doing it
void void
@void void you can also make most of beta 1.7.3 features in today's mc versions, I had made a survival focused on it, with a lot of its features, including being able to climb spaced ladders, take fall damage in water if it's not deep enough
but yup there are going to be those very little features which are really hard to accomplish without mods or beta 1.7.3 itself
limber knotBOT
or other people :D
olive garden
oh, that's fun
golden gust
Oh god
One of my mates grabbed one of those gag lighters
We ended up sorta like holding it in a way that we where both at either side of the thing
Nothing like using somebody to complete the circuit, especially when they're unsuspecting of it \o/
candid river
olive garden
lol
another random question, are you up already cat, or have you not gone to bed yet?
limber knotBOT
i'm both at the same time :D
dusk drift
Anyone know what happened to CasualProtector? They moved to McM.
olive garden
tbh I'm not sure about myself either, I think I only slept for like 3 hours
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.g CasualProtector
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/casualprotector-protect-your-server-the-best-anticrash-antibot-1-7-1-13-antycrash.336170/ -- Premium - CasualProtector - PROTECT YOUR SERVER! THE BEST...: "Aug 24, 2018 ... yooniks submitted a new resource: CasualProtector - BEST SERVER PROTECTOR? ANTIBOT, ANTICRASH.. - Protects server from bots,Β ..."
golden gust
I basically slept from like 16:00-23:00
Honestly, coming off these meds is just bleh, kinda wanna go back to bed and sleep though it but I've already slept and can't, woooo
limber knotBOT
"The author was banned, because CasualProtector "attacks the server" hm.." lol
golden gust
But, yea, casual was pulled from spigot for some reason
dusk drift
The developer got banned because he was attacking networks to promote his plugin. He wants to earn money the sad way.
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
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r o l l e d
limber knotBOT
banned snake oil? uh :D
golden gust
Not exactly snake oil
They did have some, albeit shitty, patches to try to avoid some of the attack surface
(I mean, literally, somebody with a v6 network could huuuurt you a loooot)
and their enformcement of the checks just indicated that they had no idea what they're doing, ontop of the whole licensing aspects
limber knotBOT
???
wtf does that even mean
"based on mysql"
is this guy trolling or straight retarded
void void
lmao wtf
limber knotBOT
plugins could just be written as stored procedures
limber knotBOT
it's ok, MC wouldn't have made it to infdev if it was written in sql
fringe merlin
limber knotBOT
lmao what the fuck http://thedailywtf.com/articles/Stupid-Coding-Tricks-The-TSQL-Madlebrot
fringe merlin
anyone know of a factions plugin without land protection?
Or one where I can config to not have it
limber knotBOT
i assume all of them have a permission node on the claim command
don't let players claim land = no claims
fringe merlin
good point
void void
you actually dont want land protection?
in that case im happy to recommend you Guilds by Glare
void void
land prot is coming soon to it, however, you can disable it
and the one thats in there now is ass so just leave it disabled
fringe merlin
okay cool thanks
desert epoch
shell vine
wen u optimize 1 line in slimefun before and after https://gyazo.com/e316899a80a22b1c46cbc1f8bfe58a30
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jesus
ornate spindle
so how stable is 1.15? last I heard is that it randomly segfaults
celest coyote
havent heard anything bout that
ornate spindle
may have just been normal crashes
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segfault isn't really java's way
ornate spindle
I've seen it happen
IE use leaderheads + battlelevels, those plugins decided to include sqlite for some reason both different versions too
ornate spindle
true, just saying it is possible in java
but either way how's 1.15? all the major crashes patched so far?
golden gust
sqlite natives, not java java
ornate spindle
just been waiting for it to be stable before looking into the version
golden gust
I mean, outside of stuff from 1.14, e.g. structure searches, it's not that bad
No real crashes that I've heard of
ornate spindle
hmm I guess I should look into it then so that I can get myself up to date with stuff and all the sad performance
fallen oracle
cc: @ornate spindle π
ornate spindle
sorta
I plan on eventually either rewriting it in Go or in Java once I get the time
got myself a decently sized dev box for my server development so I'd probably end up having some space to stick it on there too
void void
So, we were planning on rewriting it in Java (spring). Was wondering if you had any gripes
ornate spindle
eh wasn't exactly looking at Spring for my java rewrite. Though anyone can use it as a base for their projects, kinda why I opened it up
fallen oracle
Jordan, #paper-help
void void
yeah we were hoping to rewrite it to be used by MCBanners but possibly an open api as well
We want to make banners for a shitload of games
expand out of mc
fallen oracle
Would be cool to do a collab or something. If he plans to keep all the APIs up and whatnot, maybe we can work and utilize it to generate the banners?
void void
I don't really mind, I was just wondering what the plans are and timeframe, etc.
If soon, then we can hold off. If not, maybe we write our own
either way
ornate spindle
image based APIs would likely be added later since I'd have to figure out an efficient image processing library to use for whatever language I go with
fallen oracle
We would be able to handle the image stuff. If I understand you correctly, that is. We take JSON and turn it into banners currently.
ornate spindle
but I'd recommend just making a rewrite since I don't expect to have free time for personal projects till Q4 2020
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Q4 eh
void void
Alright thanks for the info
fallen oracle
Yeah, thanks Yive!
slender lily
ornate spindle
tbh idk if the repo even has a license
void void
Thats why we were asking
fallen oracle
^^
ornate spindle
https://unlicense.org/ basically closest to what I'd say fits it
void void
Perfect \o/
fallen oracle
Awesome! π
limber knotBOT
WTFPL
sand vale
They left the sausage gravy out at lunch, taunting me, tempting me... it pulled out a bowl and threatened to pour out the cottage cheese all over itself if I didn't pour it over my biscuits. I had but no choice than at that time to eat breakfast at 11:30. The pot roast laughed, nervously, in anticipation until it too realized what the eggs had - I was hungry, and it, like the gravy, would soon be devoured! The bacon, glaring at the scene, clung together in the hopes I would want only one sacrifice this day. Alas! The hunger which fueled this spree of raw, unadulterated rampaging was far from satiated! Again! Again! The eggs have multiplied! As to grow their numbers in offering to the foul beast which lay in the pits of my hunger. Again! Again! The bacon neither was safe. The desperation, the primal need to satisfy my hunger, scoop aftee scoop, pinch after pinch! My plate grew more full as my belly grumbled, screaming in want. Then, suddenly, there were tacos. The shells pleading, begging to have, to hold. To bear forth a delectable treat, mouth to belly. Seasoned beef, slopped happily upon the shell, covered in cheese and smothered with bacon. At last! The beast had been slain! What left of the breakfast foods, cowering, shrinking. Though pleased the ordeal was overm weeping for their lost. It was a ghastly sight. My belly, sighing with contentment & satisfaction, ignorant of the plight it demanded. For the ascribed practices of buffet had been met with utmost satisfaction!
shrewd river
:3
shell vine
void void
verbal wraith
daring gulch
I suppose the danger of unlicense is someone can copy the code, claim it as theirs, then sue
limber knotBOT
I mean anyone can do that
even with a license doesnt mean anything in this day and age for someone to copy it change the name and resdistrbute it.
limber knotBOT
I love these sentry mode videos
(MiniDigger) Tesla dashcam captures guys attempting to break charging plug. - length 1m 8s - 302 likes, 5 dislikes (98.4%) - 222,252 views - Fernando C on 2020.01.10
void void
little lobby theme i put together lol
fresh talon
does anyone happen to have a list of all entities with their features?
the end purpose is to create a list of entities that don't have inventory space to allow them through portals, blocking the others to prevent duping
void void
I mean, the entity package on the javadoc?
sturdy fulcrum
Gg
unreal quarry
technically all living entities have at minimum 2 hand slots and 4 armor slots
π
limber knotBOT
Grr fucking internet
fresh talon
ghasts or magma cubes can't pick up items though can they?
unreal quarry
not naturally, no. would need a plugin/mod to assist with that
^_^
Wtf is wrong with people (see #2848) :(
latent valve
I hope, this is a bug
xD i hope
unreal quarry
In lighter news, I managed to hijack the nether portal travel agent and abuse it for making a 2nd nether portal that links my main world to my wilderness world :3
I think I can finally sleep
void void
because mv nether portals isnt enough!
unreal quarry
Fuck that
unreal quarry
This is user made portals using the same shape algo as nether portals ^_^
void void
k add to purpur
unreal quarry
You haven't seen my WorldLoader plugin then.. ditch MV
void void
proof of betterness plz
unreal quarry
not my burden Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
void void
k frik u
unreal quarry
Lol
unreal quarry
Psssh cuz I don't offer support for anything other than purpur lol
unreal quarry
Out of scope ^_^
unreal quarry
Don't be jealous I have cool toys :p
void void
fak u it prob sux
unreal quarry
^_^
fresh talon
hmm the metadata page doesn't seem to be of great help, I guess I can manually make a list (I have a yml file to block entities)
limber knotBOT
why do you keep summoning me billy
limber knotBOT
ok boomer
void void
XD
limber knotBOT
Is setting of the view distance for a player depricated in the api?
granite salmon
It needs β... further understanding to properly implement ...β
void void
(its not implemented at all atm vertanzil)
limber knotBOT
If kitty fixes it i will give you cat nip and extra chin rubs
golden gust
IT'S IN THE PIPELINE U FUQ
limber knotBOT
:(
limber knotBOT
Poor cat
void void
ill pay u for stop brain hurt and fix
limber knotBOT
I already offered him chin scratches and catnip
limber knotBOT
GO TAKE YOUIR GODAM MEDS
golden gust
I don't remember, but surely according to the thingy they shooould be outta my system, just gotta wait on my brain
limber knotBOT
Bad Kitty
void void
why you not tek
golden gust
Basically, either they or something else is making me super drained
golden gust
Annoyingly, I've always been kinda tired, but I started taking meds and got a little tired, but then I ended up getting a flu and was just dead, and never really came back from that
limber knotBOT
golden gust
So, either the meds are fucking me up, or the flu is still fucking me up somehow
So, wooo \o/
golden gust
*months
was septemberish when I started on the meds, maybe the month that comes before
But, I've gotta be just shy of a week or so since I last took them, I was supposed to taper off, but tapering was giving me headaches and stuff, so I kinda just said fuck it after a few days of that, no point prolonging if if imma be dead i might as well be dead and get it over with
Now I'm just tired and my brain feels kinda tingly
limber knotBOT
pets electroniccat
golden gust
I got a meeting at uni soon, hoping I pitch up and can get some stuff done, otherwise I get to explain to my supervisor that I've been 10/10 and unable to think properly,my GP noted that I was like, super slow responding to his questions
limber knotBOT
.optimize
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimizationβ‘.283181/
round vine
distant crane
MiniDigger i remember when i first met you and you made this plugin for me server π So long ago https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/morecrates
limber knotBOT
lol
cosmic raft
helo
limber knotBOT
henlo
dense panther
opal solstice
median spade
prime pike
gusty needle
limber knotBOT
that was 1.15 barty
didn't they mainly just fix performance issues going from 1.14 to 1.15?
wide chasm
Mojang: spends 7 years rewriting the game in Assembly
All devs: "Fuck"
limber knotBOT
lol
beat you to it
sure stafvan but suddenly the game is running at 2000 tps and 100000000 fps
except when it crashes it kills your machine
wide chasm
SIGSEGV: Segmentation fault, core dumped
limber knotBOT
it fixed server issues too
you join a server, download a resource pack, the resource pack somehow causes your cpu to go up to 200ΒΊc and suddenly your computer is on fire
but afaik paper had these fixed already Β―_(γ)_/Β―
there were fixes that paper didn't have
their new nether portal system relying on POI is nice-ish
although I still question how that works with legacy portals but I haven't looked into that too much yet xD
nether portals follow a terrible system top to bottom
wide chasm
Just don't look at it and pray
limber knotBOT
lol
Notch had a cool idea of nonlinear space and ran with it without caring about how that would translate in real terms
disable entities, redstone and physics
then you might be able to support 50 players
wide chasm
If you have a specialized server, you can probably remove some stuff from the server itself. Although, that's quite a bit of work.
limber knotBOT
this game was made for 5 player servers
phoenix you didn't disable hoppers, sorry, your server now crashes at 15 players
s/physics/tile entitiy ticking
:P
Correction, <phoenix616> disable entities, redstone and tile entitiy ticking
depends on the amount really
that's a cute lie barty
wide chasm
looks at storage systems
limber knotBOT
tell that to the player who put 5000 hoppers on one chunk
wide chasm
"But I'm only storing 274 items"
limber knotBOT
for a sorting system
TWICE
for the same map
item sorting isn't an issue on paper
tell that to my previous map's tps
just lower the speed at which items are moved (the cooldown)
they'll just make even more hoppers to counter that
how do people automatically sort their items then?
on my network? they don't, they can go get fucked
well I guess your players don't want to play Minecraft, lol
I disabled the hopper recipe and sell them for 25 diamonds
suddenly people are far more economical in how they use them
weird huh
pokes ^-^
I mean as long as you don't promote it as a vanilla survival server Β―_(γ)_/Β―
lol it's called elitesurvival after my plugin
it's already really far removed from vanilla
just don't set it to hard so they die eventually? ;D
(or use a fixed percentage instead of the 100% of hard mode)
removing a whole mechanic instead of fixing it
no, it removes it
setting a non-hard conversation percentage is the fix
e.g. the ones from easy or normal Β―_(γ)_/Β―
uff
wtf
imagine that happening to a bank or something, lol
you can apparently dispute it in search console or smth
that shouldn't be a thing in the fist place imo
but I guess people are dumb enough to not read urls
oh one last story before I go back to reading
there was this I believe norwegian bank back in the early(er) days of the internet that created their own online banking website
and forgot to sanitize their inputs for the amount of money people were sending
so they accidentally allowed people to transfer negative money to other people
which resulted in actual money siphoning
now when I work on anything economy-related on programming, the first thing I QA check is if you can send negative money
I mean banks have left open their backend apis for everyone on the web to use before Β―_(γ)_/Β―
even have an easter egg message for people that try to do it
thanks DEFCON
alright you nerds I'm going back to reading
void void
should replace my paste service as well
some day
i have my own fork of hastebin @ paste.wut.ee but damn its syntax hl is wack
paste.gg seems ok but ehhh
multiple components to deploy
twin lagoon
i've taken a look at hastebin today
they use highlight.js and i just can't seem to find anything that's better than highlight.js
toxic radish
is it recommende to use java 8 or 11 or mc server?
limber knotBOT
11
toxic radish
Thankyou Mini
vestal jasper
14
twin lagoon
adding ace editor to hastebin would be neat
toxic radish
do I need to change anything in aikar flag if i use java 11 ?
limber knotBOT
remove the stuff it complains about xD
toxic radish
Fair enough lol
limber knotBOT
openj9 vs whatever-aikar-usesjdk
which is better
you mean hotspot
openj9 is strange
somebody here made some research and a blog post iirc
yes that'd b tux
I switched to that, and idk not really seeing anything different but then again my usage low
ye
openj9 is more for fast-startup stuff it seems
because of AOT? hotspot can do that too nowadays
gencon vs g1
void void
err, are yall aware of this QR code "scam" thing that's going around bc Discord introduced QR log in, but there's some bug that lets even 2FA be overridden if you scan the QR code?
I'm getting pings in all my servers from all the server admins telling people not to scan QR codes that are posted in Discord lol
celest coyote
the QR code steals your login?
void void
If not, I guess now you are. but it'sΒ basic security not to scan random shit
Kind of, but it's an actual Discord feature. It grants the person who sends you the QR code access to your account.
limber knotBOT
their reader probably just runs any URL, lol
celest coyote
I'm guessing it actually steals your user token
void void
yes, more than likely
limber knotBOT
what does the qrcode contain?
void void
But regardless of how it steals your account, it does. So...I mean, just be aware. Not that most of you would be fooled into scanning a random QR.
I don't know
celest coyote
if you already have user token, technically you are actually logged in
void void
I haven't seen it
limber knotBOT
lol
void void
I just keep getting pinged
limber knotBOT
lol
celest coyote
it might only work for people running in the browser
limber knotBOT
leave it to dumcord to make qr codes a phishing exploit lol
feel free to dm me one if someone gets it
celest coyote
somehow steals it from memory or cookie file?
limber knotBOT
nah, I bet it's just an url that executes shit
void void
It's probably just a QR code containing the user token which is more or less an API token for your account.
celest coyote
how would a static QR code contain that
void void
Yeah, I don't know. I've been up all night. If you find out what it contains, let me know as well. I'd be interested to find out
limber knotBOT
token/id of the attacker telling the user client that that user should be trusted is my guess
void void
But, just FYI. I keep getting pinged in all my servers about it, so if you run a server...assuming it's real...let your users know not to be dumbfucks.
I'll be back soon
celest coyote
I feel like whatever it is, it would only work if you used discord website to login
if you only used desktop/mobile client it won't be able to work
limber knotBOT
I've yet to find one of my servers that has that mentioned, lol
does discord have a global search?
ok so according to discord staff it should just log you into the mobile account on the website π€
but it basically opens a link on the phone so I assume that link is the request to login made by the attacker
toxic radish
hmmm it did not complain anything on startup with java 11 with aikar default flag π€ so i think it ok
limber knotBOT
yeah so every time it opens the login page it will generate a new sesion url... the victim just has to scan that code and agree or something and your browser will login?
that's a really dumb way of doing that if that#S all that's necessary, lol
unfortauntely I can't test it as my discord doesn't want to update on my phone :S
but for anyone who wants to see that for themselves, just go to the login page in the browser Β―_(γ)_/Β―
alpine ice
limber knotBOT
ok it's just a link that shows in a normal QR-code reader but discord doesn't want to open it on my phone... I guess my setup is a bit broken or something xD
cedar spade
You scan it from within the Discord app iirc
unless it actually is a link
huh, it is a link
It's meant to be a convenience feature but that's... impressively exploitable
pulsar wigeon
did you know facebook checks passwords case insensitive and allows minor typos
cosmic raft
wat
pulsar wigeon
after years of trying to get people to not put password on sticky notes on their monitor, welcome to tech companies security practices
pulsar wigeon
limber knotBOT
mmh, fair enough
limber knotBOT
I bet discord is going to add some time based code that the app generates to the login so the attacker would have to know that too
odd flame
I'd hope so
Maybe the code could also reset on leave so the victim can't give them a valid code
limber knotBOT
the main issue there would be that you could bruteforce any code short enough for it to stay convenient
but they could just have max attempts or something
this has to be one of the best issues I've ever seen https://github.com/ViaVersion/ViaVersion/issues/1623#issuecomment-573448945
wide chasm
Ah yes, 2014-2020 support, sounds great!
woven otter
laughs in ProtocolSupport
wide chasm
laughs in "we only support latest"
limber knotBOT
stuff π¦ with seasoninig and herbs and spcies and stick them in the oven on 200 degrees for an hour
s/spcies/spices
Correction, * Vertanzil stuff π¦ with seasoninig and herbs and spices and stick them in the oven on 200 degrees for an hour
limber knotBOT
stuff Vertanzil with seasoninig and herbs and spices and stick them in the oven on 200 degrees for an hour
pokes a hole in KennyTV
woven otter
stabs Vertanzil
woven otter
ye but does it really help though since you're upside down
bright stream
lone kelp
summer vector
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wat
woven otter
I bet it was wiz
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ping him and find out
woven otter
u first
limber knotBOT
are you scamming people again
limber knotBOT
someone should delete you as well
woven otter
u
quasi valley
golden gust
- Fuck off with the at-everyone
- The only flaw is the expectation that people have a brain
limber knotBOT
And 3) see 1)
woven otter
and 4) kenny is dum
golden gust
and 5) But not as dum as teh duk
woven otter
and 6) no u
limber knotBOT
hah, roasted duck
golden gust
Yea, but, that's the meds
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did duck really try to scam our accounts
golden gust
What's your excuse?
limber knotBOT
yeah duck is an obvious scammer and hacker
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tbh I'd perma ban your ass for that
limber knotBOT
let me just take a wild guess and say that he didn't
fallen oracle
It is interesting that they didn't think about this better.
woven otter
.rekt
limber knotBOT
β Welcome to the Recktoning
it's interesting that discord pretty much doesn't think at all
woven otter
I guess that was an encouragement to scan more qr codes
limber knotBOT
woven otter
fuck you indeed
latent valve
quack quack quack
woven otter
the guy sure did ruin my bait :sadduck:
limber knotBOT
imo it made it a lot better
limber knotBOT
the pink one?
limber knotBOT
f a m o u s
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wonder what it entails
latent valve
Didnt know duck could type
Quack quack quack π¦
dapper nacelle
is it possible to code my project in java 13 and compile it to java 8 with maven?
latent valve
π€ π€ π€
Turn your server up to 11
Is this messgae up to date? for 1.15 ?ππ
limber knotBOT
the "it's stupid fast" has been triggering me for quite some time now
limber knotBOT
should be "it's stupid, fast"
golden gust
ITS STUPID FAST
latent valve
π π π
woven otter
stupid fast
latent valve
Fast af
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smart slow
limber knotBOT
ur slow
woven otter
ur slow
latent valve
Leaf fork is slow that why π
limber knotBOT
that's called the spigot forums
golden gust
registrar or just a normal domain?
cosmic raft
registrar
ah, great, you can't.
At the moment, you cannot move domains registered with Cloudflare Registrar to other Cloudflare accounts. We're working to enable this capability.
limber knotBOT
It's extremely limited, ye
Might be able to call support and get it done manually if it's important
cosmic raft
that's dumb
golden gust
well, rip, i guess
limber knotBOT
That would be an A record, yes
golden gust
That's what a dns record does...
woven otter
i guess PriorityQueue is ordered depending on comparator on add ?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.whatsmydns.net/ -- WhatsMyDNS: "Instantly check your domain names current IP address and DNS record information against multiple name servers located in different parts of the world."
limber knotBOT
Which port?
golden gust
some level of "check your firewall"
How are you hosting the web server?
where are you hosting the server?
golden gust
Are you sure that your provider isn't being stupid and preventing CF connections or something?
limber knotBOT
Trade in the bud for a domain transfer π
cosmic raft
LOL it is a bug
limber knotBOT
Srv records are known to be wonky
void void
srvs are kinda wonky yea
also ffs cloudflare pls they changed their dashboard and srv records suck now
cosmic raft
lol
can't even report a vulnerability to cloudflare
only option is support.cloudflare.com, and you can't select it
latent valve
what did u find kash?
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send them an email
cosmic raft
send /who/ an email
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idk
"let me report this vulnerability or I've some friends who would love to take advantage of it"
cosmic raft
If you have discovered a vulnerability in Cloudflare or another serious security issue, please submit it to our bounty program hosted by HackerOne.
should i just file a support ticket then
or let someone else abuse this
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both
cosmic raft
they should care if they like money :)
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what is the vulnerability relating to
cosmic raft
payments
limber knotBOT
just tell us what it is so we can sell err report it
limber knotBOT
unreal quarry
its always about money, kash. whats going to cost them more money in the long run, caring or ignoring? ^_^
capitalism at its finest
cosmic raft
ignoring will cost them more
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make them know that
unreal quarry
well, they dont know that
woven otter
just don't be
serene bolt
Don't click links you don't know, don't run executables you don't know, don't scan things you don't know. Common sense? :O
dapper nacelle
is it a good idea these days to compile your minecraft plugin with JDK 11?
quasi valley
Using java 11 is a good idea, the only thing you βlooseβ is being able to put that in a java 8 server
dapper nacelle
I heard someone say it was rumored that Java would get primitive generics in the future
so I wanna be up to date
olive garden
not really, they plan on more than just primitives
quasi valley
Seriously?
golden gust
compile against your lowest common denominator, basically; saying that, that's more language level than compiler version outside of ABI (ByteBuf, wooo)
olive garden
yes, they want to add real value types - Project Valhalla
dapper nacelle
I compile to java 8 via maven
golden gust
valhalla is probs what they're referring to
dapper nacelle
<plugin>
<groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
<artifactId>maven-compiler-plugin</artifactId>
<version>3.8.1</version>
<configuration>
<release>8</release>
</configuration>
</plugin>
So, the jdk version you're using is somewhat irrelevant
quasi valley
Thatβd be hella lit
olive garden
yep
quasi valley
Goodbye 17mb fastutil depend
dapper nacelle
lol
I already could no longer depend on it if I wanted to post my plugin on the spigot forms
quasi valley
You could still post it, just that most people wouldnβt be able to use it because theyβre dum dums :p
olive garden
set your project, module language level, etc. to 11
quasi valley
https://github.com/ViaVersion/ViaVersion/issues/1623#issuecomment-573463412 he actually did the βbut ps has itβ
Holy fok
And holy fok are the gigantic banners in discord annoying
jade light
You set maven-compiler-plugin's target to 1.8
limber knotBOT
compiler plugin takes sourceVersion and targetVersion options
Amaranth: why do I get the feeling you would be the type of person to play secondlife :P
dapper nacelle
<plugin>
<groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
<artifactId>maven-compiler-plugin</artifactId>
<version>3.8.1</version>
<configuration>
<target>1.8</target>
<source>11</source>
</configuration>
</plugin>
I am not a furry
dapper nacelle
this isn't working
limber knotBOT
you do not need to be a furry to play secondlife
:P
I thought it was really neat when I was a teenager, never actually played it afaik
Might have got on once
woven otter
Kenny that's a good suggestion
limber knotBOT
So Thunderbolt 4 is USB 4, sort of
vestal jasper
Ur usb4
limber knotBOT
USB 4 is based on Thunderbolt 3 but allows you to disable some of the features of it like PCIe and 40Gbps connections
Thunderbolt 4 is USB 4 but all the optional features are required
USB got real confusing
upper flicker
there's also the fact that they keep fucking renaming the old standards
USB 3.2 Gen 1: originally known as USB 3.0, and previously renamed to USB 3.1 Gen 1. Itβs the original USB 3.0 specification, and it can transfer data at up to 5Gbps.
USB 3.2 Gen 2: Previously known as USB 3.1, and then later as USB 3.1 Gen 2. It offers speeds at up to 10Gbps.
USB 3.2 Gen 2x2: formally known as USB 3.2, itβs the newest and fastest spec, promising speeds at up to 20Gbps (by using two lanes of 10Gbps at once).
I can only assume they're doing that same crap for usb 4
unreal quarry
its marketting. already have a usb 3.0 device? fuck that, you want a 3.2 gen 1 device!
vestal jasper
Mfw gen 4
limber knotBOT
The spec and marketing names for the different kinds of USB haven't changed
Only the technical name that shows up on newegg
For the specs USB 3.0 is still 3.0, 3.1 is still 3.1, etc
upper flicker
the fact that they think its a good idea to change any name is the issue
but if everyone ignores them anyway, and they do, I suppose its irrelevant
gleaming arch
limber knotBOT
ur irrelevant
wooden shell
woven otter
ur irrelevant
limber knotBOT
:(
void void
my dxracer has served me well but yall, i need a chair recommendation
and i like to sit really weirdly
but i need back support
void void
do you sit weirdly though
limber knotBOT
I'll have you know that I sit in the most heteronormative way possible
limber knotBOT
how bout you don't do that bud
void void
how bout fuck you, it's comfortable
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.g dxracer
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.dxracer.com/us/en-us/ -- Chairs for Gamers | DXRacer Gaming Chair Official Website: "DXRacer Official Home Page, Best gaming chair in the world, Best PC chair in the world, Best gaming desk in the world."
how bout fuck you now you gotta buy a new chair
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oh boy
limber knotBOT
yeah well now the garbage bin will have it for the next 100 years
void void
with my "Gaming Rig"
limber knotBOT
.g secret lab titan
void void
Which now sits under my desk disused
limber knotBOT
(^-^) https://secretlab.co/collections/titan-series -- TITAN series gaming chairs | Secretlab US: "The larger cousin of the Secretlab OMEGA. The Secretlab TITAN is renowned for its ample space in addition to customization at the highest level. To..."
void void
I'm not tossing it yet, it's not completely fucked (yet)
limber knotBOT
tbf though it's only a good chair because it's the only chair I know of that doesn't do manlet sizes only
I recommend it if you're 6' or above
void void
i am but this dxracer is nice. however, with the way i like to sit, it's not big enough
:D
limber knotBOT
so you're saying you're fat
void void
yea
limber knotBOT
absolutely disgusting
void void
Thank you
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at least he's not a budget vsauce
limber knotBOT
send stomach pics
void void
My fat is on my ass actually π