So, what do you suggest?
#general
potent warren
void void
what are you trying to do...
potent warren
Storing an x,y,z position without having to pass the world
golden gust
Vector?
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vector's the bomb for that
void void
^ but also...i dont see why setting world to null would be an issue either, as long as you'd just be storing it and not using it
but vector is probably the go to
upper flicker
upper flicker
honestly it's probably just a thing of letting the type system help you more
if you've got locations youre going to want to treat them like locations
potent warren
hmmmmmm
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the problem with setting the world to null is that everything expects it to be not null
there ain't no null check
upper flicker
if bukkit could just go ahead and validate nonnull in location
that'd be great.mp4
potent warren
lmao
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pr it to md69 
potent warren
Also, someday I'll probably have to load multiple copies of a world
upper flicker
it already has some ambiguous nullability annotation they made up
I assume that means he's decided to just let it sit for now
that seems like one of those things you just announce and then break the next time there's an MC update
especially given that there shouldnt be all that many plugins doing it anyway
potent warren
well then.
I basically wanted to do it that way because I want to have multiple copies of a world and do stuff with it
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multiple copies of a world
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I'm blaming you for listening to his dumb ass then
potent warren
Well, Stef is supposed to be smart ๐ค
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I'll bite what's the issue it solves
potent warren
Multiple Game Areas on a server instance
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shit tends to leak with worlds
potent warren
mind explaining?
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wouldn't recommend poking that
nothing server side we know of it's just plugins
don't listen to unload events and don't drop shit they reference in it
olive garden
I'm still telling you to come up with original ideas instead of copying minigames
tbh you could come up with original minigames, that also works
potent warren
well, I'm trying to make an API, not a game yet...
woven otter
number 1 issue plugins leaking memory
potent warren
My plugin is literally empty... so I ain't leaking anything
woven otter
not talking about your plugin tho
potent warren
Well, then what do I do ๐ค I need to know otherwise I'm not able to structure stuff
olive garden
I just remembered that I only enjoy PvP and raiding in vanilla Minecraft, and PvP sucks in minigames and PvP servers, so don't bother coming up with original minigames, I won't like them
potent warren
๐ I'm ๐ not ๐ making ๐ anything ๐ at ๐ all. ๐ It's ๐ just ๐ an ๐ API. ๐
olive garden
but I assume you are making it because you plan on using it
hmm, why am I making Iodine?
I guess that statement doesn't hold true for myself
potent warren
Do you plan on using it?
potent warren
๐ฆ
olive garden
Sorry simple, we rarts are currently raiding the Paper server :dab:
potent warren
Nah, that's just you
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.g spigot-5477
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unreal quarry
If only coreprotect would fix potionmeta
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worldedit 
unreal quarry
runs away
woven otter
ping wiz
potent warren
CoreProtect
It's not even open-source
rare herald
No, pretty sure that had nothing to do with WorldEdit
I think that should fix the hanging issues
woven otter
let him know
upper flicker
who'd've thought half life 3 would be announced before open source core protect
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rare herald
Open source CoreProtect was announced years ago
potent warren
upper flicker
are you going to beat hl3 to release
rare herald
no
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it's open source if you're the right person
potent warren
Then where's that juicy source?
upper flicker
hard coming up with material
quasi valley
Whereโs the sauce at, intelli
rare herald
Cool kids already have source access
potent warren
For serious... is it gonna be opensource or nah?
rare herald
๐ค
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who knows
quasi valley
Keeping the sauce open too long spoils it
serene bolt
wow that's quite a lot of source
potent warren
Indeed.
woven otter
It will be open-source when someone makes a clone and open-sources it
potent warren
^^^^
woven otter
isn't that outdated
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what's prism
rare herald
it's open source
potent warren
It's not like you can't decompile CoreProtect though...
rare herald
so update it
potent warren
oh lmao.
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woven otter
sounds like extra work
woven otter
can u start
rare herald
pulsar wigeon
lmao tf
merry talon
blocklogger_final_FINAL_v2_dklasjdkad.zip
pulsar wigeon
Server not shutting down after worldedit
mostly people complain about worldedit crashing servers :^)
even tho that's the watchdog's fault
olive garden
I pick you, electronic!
woven otter
real men make backups and deal with rollbacks
golden gust
guardian lol
potent warren
Are ChunkSnapshots useful for rollbacking stuff? ๐ค
olive garden
Nick you have weird questions
golden gust
But, they lack info on TEs
pulsar wigeon
oh shit
potent warren
Nick you have weird questions
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
rare herald
๐
woven otter
what teleport fixes
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huh md5 merged a pr?
rare herald
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submit cla
serene bolt
yeah
unreal quarry
Need to sign cla
rare herald
Give md5 all your personal info first
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uh huh
unreal quarry
Md's open source projects aren't really open. You know this :p
rare herald
Md is my spirit animal
unreal quarry
pours potionmeta all over intelli and watches him seize in a fit of exceptions
fresh talon
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/head-drop.24134/ would this still work in 1.15 ?
woven otter
It's probably because md5 is upside down
quasi valley
Oh my god youโre right
rare herald
md is on fire this week with bug fixes
serene bolt
he has been since 1.15 release
quasi valley
Oof
potent warren
Intelli, is there any good reason to keep CoreProtect behind a private git repo? Just curious. :p
quasi valley
Canโt say if I should laugh or not about that ๐
rare herald
@potent warren
You can stay up to date on the progress of the open source project in our Discord
rough crane
I'm not using CoreProtect because it's not open-source, but I'd definitely switch immediately if it was :(
unreal quarry
I left that discord after a month of repeated bug reports about the potionmeta exceptions fell on deaf ears ;)
celest spire
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was it the coreprotect one billy
unreal quarry
Yup
woven otter
what's that
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speaking of I gotta go nuke that system
unreal quarry
would be nice if we got a 2.17.6 that fixed it
rare herald
PotionMeta error will be fixed in 2.18 (should be out this month)
Error doesn't actually break anything, just can be a bit spammy if dealing with a lot of suspicious stews
upper flicker
at-๐ฆ
potent warren
@everyone?
quasi valley
potent warren
@woven otter ๐
woven otter
at - ๐ฎ
potent warren
golden tulip
rare herald
quasi valley
woven otter
ur upside down
rare herald
I wonder how much more money spammers would make if they used proper spelling and grammar.
unreal quarry
thats part of their scheme. they make their stuff so rediculously stupid tha tonly complete idiots would fall for it
rare herald
I mean, maybe. But a lot of it seems to be just trying to steal login credentials (spoofing login pages, etc.)
upper flicker
same idea there
rare herald
I really don't think making it obviously fake helps them
upper flicker
though there are a lot of good ones floating around too anymore
unreal quarry
golden gust
i can back that message
solemn shore
teal quarry
indigo fern
sand vale
is that a cloud shaped like a can of pabst blue ribbon!?
pulsar wigeon
Signs of alcoholism:
- seeing drinks in the clouds
woven otter
Signs of wiz:
- reeeeeeeeeeee
- you no longer see this message because you are kicked
celest coyote
he neve says that doe
woven otter
he reees internally
sand vale
I might be an alcoholic, but I can't stand the taste of jameson.
sadly, I have half a bottle left. I did give it a fair and honest try.
woven otter
ye you cant drink it alone
sand vale
I don't drink alone. God is always with me nods
sand vale
lol
Yeah, I was thinking about mixing it with some gingerale... but didn't want to ruin the gingerale
void void
thinking about dropping $500 for my last hotel room
however, i have many months to do so
do i want to just do it
or
wait :/
woven otter
yes
sand vale
last hotel room... ever?
void void
no for my vacation
sand vale
ooh
pulsar wigeon
seems very excessive
void void
wat does
pulsar wigeon
500 bucks for a hotel room
void void
oh believe me, it is. my fiance and I are LDR. we don't see each other often
but when we do
we do
๐
we try to anyway, last year was Cebu
golden gust
That's probs how she copes with you
void void
perhaps
fallen oracle
Some hotel room prices are absolutely insane
void void
it's 344 or something a night but right now 77% or so off and so it's 89 a night
fallen oracle
Back in like 2010, one of our hotels had a TV built into the mirror. It was pretty cool.
void void
place has a private beach, 6 pools, like 8 restaurants, 4 lobbies, and a golf course
i might not play golf tho :/
void void
wat
pulsar wigeon
77% off .-.
void void
yea idk, agoda has trippy discounts
it's for "the next 20 mins only"
but, it's always off
at least one of them is, not this one specifically
fallen oracle
Make sure to change your ip and clear cookies to compare
void void
yea i always do
fallen oracle
They literally will give you different price based on your IP
void void
yea :p
fallen oracle
It's crazy
void void
i try to use a vpn in the country im going to to get local prices
pulsar wigeon
where are you going
void void
first to philippines, then to bali (1st hotel there), then back to ph for boracay (the hotel im talking about)
paradise tbh https://a.cdn-hotels.com/gdcs/production5/d320/a0c5a994-d99a-4278-a1b1-8a3b652461ac.jpg
nice uuid for images
void void
hi
vestal jasper
Ok
pulsar wigeon
questionable, but what's done is done i suppose
tough quail
solemn shore
@vestal jasper I had to wait to message.
vestal jasper
solemn shore
"You must be a member for 10 minutes to use the chat." Which there was a timer for 60:00 minutes.
But the main reason I came here was because most in game commands don't work with paper.
I wanted to know if there was a way to fix it.
pulsar wigeon
paper doesn't touch your commands
void void
what commands are you talking about exactly?
vestal jasper
Let me guess you have essentials installed
pulsar wigeon
inb4nbtingivecommand
solemn shore
For example, if I do /team add player then /team join player (My in game name) then /team join player @e[type=minecraft:pillager], any entity already pre-existing should join the team also making them friendly to any other entity in the team. This doesn't happen for some reason and the relationship doesn't change.
Note: I am doing this with no plugins installed.
solemn shore
No scoreboards, but It also doesn't work on spigot or bukkit..
golden gust
There is an option in paper.yml related to non-player entities being team'd
pulsar wigeon
so, what you're saying is that paper doesn't break your commands
golden gust
But, we don't change the commands themselve, if upstream also breaks it ๐คทโโ๏ธ
pulsar wigeon
imagine that, paper might even have the fix for upstream breaking your commands ๐
solemn shore
Then it must be spigot or bukkit, but I just wanted to try and get some help here to see if this was a common problem or a setting I needed to change.
golden gust
Well, we prevent non-player entities being added to teams by default, solves some stupid/fun issues
But, there is nothing that I'm aware of that would break that
solemn shore
It says the entity was added to the team when I do /team list player , but it doesn't change their relationship towards any other entity.
solemn shore
They aren't friendly to the other entities in the team.
So if a pillager and a player are added to a team in vanilla this would make the pillager friendly towards the player, in paper they still attack the player as if they weren't in a team.
golden gust
You'd need to double test that against vanilla, coz I've never heard of that one
solemn shore
Yes, it does work, It's what I use to make npc battles and custom wars with mobs. But it just doesn't seem to work with paper.
void void
can you test if it works in spigot please
if not in spigot, go report to spigot
if it works in spigot, but not paper, then it'll be us who you need to report it to
pulsar wigeon
he already said it doesn't work upstream either
golden gust
I mean, the code is there and looks fine
You'd need to look into debugging the target cause
solemn shore
Okay so I tested it once more, turns out It works with the latest version of spigot but not paper.
You can see here the mobs have interest in me.
I tested this doing /team join @e
golden gust
So, yea, probs allow-non-player-entities-on-scoreboards
void void
inb4 whether or not entities are peaceful to player team members is tied into whether or not they're allowed on the scoreboard
solemn shore
So is that in the settings?
void void
yes
solemn shore
Cause i may have a slight issue. I'm on aternos.
unreal quarry
mfw another one cant figure out the settings :3
golden gust
if you're using a stupid hosting provider, I got no idea what to tell you
sand vale
buy a poweredge off ebay. home-host. nods
obsidian hearth
Cries in internet
sand vale
(and then spend an extra $200/month for business class internet, an extra $100/month for electric and cooling... and then the other $300 worth of gear you'll need)
obsidian hearth
Hallo
sand vale
meow
golden gust
A cat is fine too, desudesudesu~~~
unreal quarry
i highly recommend the game-64-oc from ovh. its super affordable for literally everyone
sand vale
Why aren't I Notable? :O I've ruined how many minds over the last 20 years? O_O
unreal quarry
we dont have notables here. just people that have no tables
sand vale
yeah I don't have a table
vestal jasper
Wrong
golden gust
Who the fuck are you?
unreal quarry
๐ฎ another old fart?! I'm not alone anymore?!
sand vale
lol Billy. I've been on the internet since 92/93
solemn shore
Is there a way I could edit setting in paper.yml through the console? (I assume the answer is no.)
vestal jasper
Get a better host
sand vale
wait... wrong Bob?
unreal quarry
i didnt get in the internet until ~94, but i had a late start due to being poor ^_^ \o/
solemn shore
Crap, well thank you guys for the help!
sand vale
Yeah, I was kind of poor too
would stay up until like 2 am with my 28.8 kbps modem since the phone wasn't in use at night
unreal quarry
finally someone that remembers the world before computers/internet was a thing
sand vale
then get up at like 6 am to get ready for school :S
sand vale
I'm... old enough to be your father...
void void
but BOY am I glad you're not
sand vale
@golden gust - Your mom wouldn't by change be about 5'3, blondish-brown hair, hazely green eyes...
chance*
golden gust
sand vale
:O
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unreal quarry
I thought he left for milk
golden gust
Ah, yea; Raw gamer juice
void void
In that case it's impossible for you to be his father. Your sperm count is probably at single digits.
unreal quarry
BTW @golden gust that cartoon... She's a stripper, and her dad is one of her repeat clients lmao
sand vale
it's a fun show, but does get kind of campy
void void
lul wtf, apparently this resort is so big they have a shuttle service
to get to other parts of the hotel
"hello chauffeur yes plz take to pool thx"
oh GOD
they offer SEGWAYS
TO GET AROUND
HAHAHAHAHAHA
yea this is gonna be my life for 5 days
calm stratus
viral pilot
limber knotBOT
FUN FACT: If the Superdome's 125 million cubic feet of interior space were filled entirely with billiard balls, the game would be postponed.
void void
excuse me
magic river
@sand vale I get a Surge like once a month, only 2 gas stations in this city sell it
So, you know, look around
sand vale
yeah, found some. Gonna go tomorrow to get me a can :D
viral flower
dusk drift
Where the fuck do u download essentialsX dev builds now adays, ci.ender.zone is gone and the github.io is gone now too
pulsar wigeon
that's their site yes
upper flicker
Their downloads are broken because they just fetch from enderzone
upper flicker
Thereโs a sketchy mirror here though https://papermc.io/ci/job/EssentialsX/
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dusk drift
Why do you even host it
upper flicker
Why not?
Iโd host WE/WG too if I didnโt need to build for every platform and bukkit nms adapter
Thatโs just too much work though
pulsar wigeon
you don't have to do the nms adapters tbf
that's done separately and thrown in as a big binary blob
admittedly fabric/forge builds are a fucking pita
crystal compass
hm
Howcome people split up their survival servers?
Copy & paste of the exact same server but two different ones in a hub.
pure sky
Hello, on my server there are animation bugs when chests, ovens, shulkers are broken, it only happens with PaperMC
crystal compass
pure sky
let's go to #paper-help
golden gust
Somebody will provide support when they can, looking at stack traces/logs is much easier than being told "animations broke" and being given literally 0 information beyond that
Don't really care to try to dig out basic information such as "what version are you even talking about"
pure sky
I'm sorry, it's the first time I notice this
void void
spice spire
void void
C&P: Has anyone used Cassandra (or NoSQL in general)? I'm so used to relational data storage that this just isn't clicking for me. For one, the loss of cascading side-effects is monumental for me. Like, when I delete a user who usually has a profile, posts, actions, whatever, I now need to go and delete them in separate queries (up to n queries, where n = # of referencing tables). Secondly, however, and this may or may not be highly specific to Cassandra however it seems like Cassandra promotes data duplication (user profile and post might both have the username column, instead of just one). So, how do you keep those in sync? I prefer to reference tables in relational, that way there is only one place for the username to be and I always join that table when I need it. Thirdly, may or may not also be related to Cassandra, is the notion of there being multiple tables expressing different data viewpoints. For example, Cassandra docs show that for a certain hotel reservation system there is one table where reservations are entered by id, another where they are entered by customer lastname, and another where they're entered by date. I can't imagine inserting into three tables every time just to add a reservation, nor can I imagine how I would keep that in sync if I didn't insert three times every time. I have to assume they're just views into the data and the actual schema for a reservation is something else.
(i know kashike has)
vestal jasper
@crystal compass player counts and server stress
Server can't handle both groups of players so they split it up
Also helps with world space and other benefits of having half the server population
cosmic raft
fallen oracle
Tad chilly
void void
ok but help
limber knotBOT
โ Fiddler on the Rekt
void void
i know it's fucked
void void
yea but how you stay in sync.
say user table has a few tables that reference its id column. you delete user.
now i gotta go manually delete them all
period
void void
wow
that's completely disgusting
well the other thing i dont get, with cassandra (could be in other nosql too idk) is the having a different table for different views
bc cassandra limits you on how you have to specify your where arguments
you specify them in the order of how the table is created
lul
golden gust
I've honestly never used cassandra, I've just been skimming an article
But, basically, "it's not a relational database"
void void
yeah ive only ever done relational
golden gust
(So, fuq off tryna treat it lyk 1 u dumfuq)
void void
yeah they talked about that, but then said specifically what they were showing was not that feature
golden gust
I mean, that's not what you want
void void
from their site's getting started https://f.jacob.engineer/UHNfRIsg.png
golden gust
That looks more like a server-side hack for tryna avoid additional queries all over the place
cosmic raft
yay home
cosmic raft
pizza time
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peak dirge
Wow, I just wasted nearly two hours. Look at before and after here.
Before: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/42972793
After: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/42974923
I would've done better to buy a new video card instead
The only change was that I tried to overclock my GPU
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cpu bound
hard kernel
a birdie told me ddr3 is better than ddr4 for minecraft servers, any truth to this?
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not likely
hard kernel
my bird is high?
peak dirge
The problem is that my score seems strongly influenced by my much weaker GPU than anything
That being said, my score seems within the norm for people who also have R5 3600s and RX 580s
hard kernel
he said you will get better latency from ddr3 for gaming it's still way better. ddr4 is for stability and takes more power, its for database servers etc
ddr3 has lower latencies big difference for minecraft
hard kernel
he is nice tho
void void
nice people are the most dangerous
hard kernel
lol so i shouldnt worry about wizjany
void void
wiz is a good guy
golden gust
I mean, he's an ass
hard kernel
shit
golden gust
But, some degree of he knows what he's talking about
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some degree rip wiz
void void
and then there's leaf
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let's keep on topic with bullying wiz while he's afk
hard kernel
translate
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plebians might not know what it means
golden gust
ddr4 does have a higher latency in terms of cycles, that part is correct, but, the fact that ddr4 runs faster, I can't do the maths because dead brain, means that ddr4 is overall faster
hard kernel
my only question is would my server perform better if i switched to ddr3? i also doubted this
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no 
cosmic raft
did someone say ddr
hard kernel
kash dont talk to me ... u will break the streak
cosmic raft
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weeaboos 
void void
no your server will not run better on ddr3 as compared to how it's running now on ddr4
thats your answer
and whoever is telling you otherwise needs to go break a few ribs and suck their own peepee
golden gust
The speed of ram is hardly a concern vs how fast your CPU is in general
hard kernel
ok ill let them know that the it guys wont do the switch
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ram only mattered on ryzen cuz their cache sucked
hard kernel
i read somewhere in here that reliable site underclocks their cpus????
turbid moat
TL;DR: Go for DDR4, the ecosystem surrounding it along with the memory itself is better
hard kernel
golden gust
not underclocked that I've heard of
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underclocking sounds retarded to do
golden gust
Just a super high spec i9 is generally very little/no gains due to how turboboosting works
hard kernel
would u advise me to get a better machine or do you think im good with hardware??
cat
void void
bro your hardware is balls to the wall
hard kernel
or simple
void void
your issue is software im pretty sure
golden gust
I don't remember what machine you got
if you wanna see CPU speeds, cat /proc/cpuinfo
void void
hold on ill show you cat.
golden gust
But, the latest i9's from what I've seen are kinda stupid because their turbo clocks when you're going balls to the wall scale back stupidly vs some of the older chipsets; RS also aren't going crazy with cooling vs what OVH does, so might also be relevant there too
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9900k
turbid moat
good lord
floral mesa
Holy crap, look at that bug list
floral mesa
Yeah
lean wharf
floral mesa
Man, I love it when OVirt freaks out due to one system having an older CPU architecture
Eh, I'll just downgrade the cluster
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if this is a waste of time I'll feed you to wiz pixel by pixel
fallen oracle
Nope
hard kernel
i heard there was another option
like an alternate core protect
does anyone know what its called?
golden gust
CP and logblock are basically the only 2 options out there
hard kernel
logblock thats what it was
dusk drift
whats wrong with CP?
static badge
it's illegal
vestal jasper
Mfw
proud lance
hard kernel
yea i think ill just stay with core
just been having some red and orange in console with core
figure because its just old
median sparrow
twin lagoon
about reliablesite
someone contacted me about an issue, said that their server has been performing quite badly because it was underclocked according to them
i checked their cpu frequencies aswell & it was definitely way under a normal i9
but i doubt reliablesite would do this normally
golden gust
I saw somebody else similar with that
twin lagoon
oh
golden gust
RS didn't underclock it
golden gust
I'd suggest checking thermals, RS don't go crazy with cooling AFAIK compared to OVH, but those i9s downclock for turbo pretty stupidly
twin lagoon
@hard kernel i'd check for above
golden gust
9900k is fine afaik
twin lagoon
i don't have access to the reliablesite machine anymore so can't check for temperatures myself
we switched to OVH after
golden gust
No idea how it compares to a 7700, but tbh, you're in the region where gains are often kinda minimal
twin lagoon
agreed
hard kernel
Plz dont ping me at 230 am
twin lagoon
how am i supposed to know it's 2:30 am for you
and just don't read the ping then lmao
twin lagoon
imagine sleeping
shell vine
this is why i dont understand wizbany either
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wiz ban y
shell vine
like just turn notifications off
twin lagoon
wizjany is a special snowflake
golden gust
I mean, at least for me, it's harder to read pings
shell vine
i could understand if they do it non stop while in a conversation tho
golden gust
I also say that as somebody who often forgets to put my glasses on...
median sparrow
Hi there. Have anyone encountered divided by zero error when trying to hang a painting or an item frame on papermc 1.15.1?
shell vine
for that probably best to report on github
median sparrow
ok, I'll do that
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private int e; { this.e = this.getId() % this.world.spigotConfig.hangingTickFrequency; } // Paper
shell vine
interesting choice
median sparrow
It works. Thanks a lot.
crude echo
void void
does anyone know how to setup this permission?
Coal-default
Iron
- playtime 24 hours```
vocal rivet
limber knotBOT
sly steppe
limber knotBOT
and my momma said you can't hurry love, no you'll just have to wait!
woven otter
magma u are special
golden gust
Yes, he is
limber knotBOT
SHE SAID LOVE DON'T COME EASY, IT'S A GAME OF GIVE AND TAKE!
heady spear
Why did I even rejoin
limber knotBOT
(^-^) The Supremes: You Can't Hurry Love - Original (Take 1) - length 3m 29s - 59,919 likes, 1,721 dislikes (97.2%) - 14,303,695 views - suedemiddleton on 2009.06.22
heady spear
As long as the bearded dragon is in here, nothing good can come out of this server
limber knotBOT
man youtube really hates nordvpn
golden gust
Coz you love us, duh
vestal jasper
mfw IDEA plugin to make it behave more like vim
golden gust
Well, yea
golden gust
You can even get a plugin for emacs that does that :L
limber knotBOT
owo
high quiver
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show ~ "Sylvia's Mother" - length 3m 46s - 40,047 likes, 1,470 dislikes (96.5%) - 8,262,594 views - Ronjaยดs Dr Hook Channel on 2012.02.04
(^-^) Aretha Franklin - Respect [1967] (Original Version) - length 2m 30s - 311,795 likes, 7,936 dislikes (97.5%) - 56,753,698 views - TatanBrown on 2008.10.17
golden gust
Meanwhile, my grandfather is lemar crazy, this being one which sticks out in my memory for some reason
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Lemar - Little Miss Heartbreaker - length 3m 58s - 132 likes, 7 dislikes (95.0%) - 70,477 views - chas1992 on 2008.11.23
cat's grandpa's got some massive pimp vibes
respect
is that why cat is a hoe?
vestal jasper
Tldr made wither roses damage wither skeletons
not even the wither are immune to wither anymore
๐ฆ
limber knotBOT
hey kids, I got some bugless efficient compiled code in my van
vestal jasper
well, wither roses and anything else that can trigger wither on wither skeletons
eg potions
void void
make normal flowers do damage to wither skeleton smh
vestal jasper
I mean I use mixin on sponge because patching server isn't quite possible
and if I do I'm liable to just... break sponge
vestal jasper
that's a different story
I literally just made my first nms change so I doubt I'll be much help
golden gust
mikros issue
void void
orion runs 100% on java 8 rn
but mixin library changed a bit & i haven't had time to look into it
should peek into spongevanilla again i guess
limber knotBOT
wow in a lecture that's supposed to be uploaded/viewable online, some dude apparently forgot to press the record button for the first 30 minutes
twin knoll
calm stratus
fresh granite
woven otter
someone contribute to configurate docs k thx
woven otter
where ๐ค
vestal jasper
ItemBucket L#137
pearl ibex
Emmpty 
vestal jasper
ty
And the only part of the event it cares about is if it's cancelled or not
and that's to send the original / current blockstate
and update inventory
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/2651
looking into this issue
golden gust
Only cares about when it's filling the bucket, apparently
burnt verge
sand vale
I have a stupidly awesome idea. Parchment server. It's a fork of Paper, but with all of the minecraft blocks, items and mobs disabled except those that existed in classic Minecraft. With a resource pack that is reminiscient of the blocks from then :D
dusk drift
sand vale
basically, a server that has only the stuff before redstone existed
vestal jasper
kudos to godaddy for not using black patterns to prevent me from cancelling renewals
vestal jasper
I have to be up at 8:30 AM PST
aka 3 hours from now
I'd take a nap but I'd end up more tired than I am now
limber knotBOT
take an half hour power nap ;D
fallen jungle
Wait Mikroskeem, are you Finnish?
I'm not tagging because I have great faith he'll see this anyways
sterile field
limber knotBOT
estonien iirc
fallen jungle
Lol
olive garden
you two are some cautious pair of people
sand vale
I've got a question about the handshake packet... anyone willing to offer some help? :D
void void
.ask :D
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
(DiscordBot) Error: API returned 401
sand vale
lol k
vestal jasper
.kill Trigary
limber knotBOT
unleashes the armies of Isengard on Trigary.
sand vale
I'm using HAProxy to forward client connections to my server. I've currently got it set to scrape the destination hostname, so I can forward to 1 of 2 different servers (one being bungee, the other being a mojang vanilla server) I'm doing this by offsetting by 5, then reading the next 15-17 bytes to get the different addresses, then forwarding the connection to the appropriate backend.
I've accumulated 5 addresses pointing to the same back end (consolidated, but the addresses are still in the wild)
So, I'm wanting to find a more efficient way to handle this. To that end, I need the first 5 bytes. The protocol version is only 3 bytes long, and my offset has to be 5 for the hostname... so, what's the other two bytes?
void void
i dont know tbh but if i had to guess, perhaps a buffer to allow for the version number to grow beyond just 3 bytes
sand vale
kash might know... but I think it's easier to get time with my congressman lol
sand vale
lmfao
void void
works for all cats, kash and electroniccat
sand vale
bungeecord's handshake handler isn't helping much either :S
hard kernel
o/
hard kernel
lucky
olive garden
simple simply doesn't fuck around
limber knotBOT
New2PC: Does it use player heads? if so then probably yes
it should be using Paper's PlayerProfileApi to not query mojang for textures
pulsar wigeon
i mean mostly it shouldn't be causing lookups MT
hard kernel
would that show player heads?
limber knotBOT
that's vanilla behaviour wiz
pulsar wigeon
vanilla behavior doesn't load multiple skulls in inventories
limber knotBOT
ye
pulsar wigeon
yes, the lookup is vanilla
limber knotBOT
it will if you create an inventory with such items in vanilla xD
upper flicker
CB is whats triggering the sync load in that instance
pulsar wigeon
but realistically they weren't expecting an inventory to contain 50 skulls
upper flicker
vanilla will still do sync lookups on the main thread elsewhere though
all of that is ๐ฎ
pulsar wigeon
we all know mojang is dumb but that doesn't mean plugins should blame mojang for avoidable problems
limber knotBOT
they are hardly avoidable using the Bukkit API
upper flicker
I wonder how feasible it is to rip all that out and replace it with some callbacks
just handwave at plugins that request it sync and set it later
hard kernel
should i just not show player heads in the GUI?
limber knotBOT
I mean I guess you could create the inventory async but that would be using the bukkit api async xD
upper flicker
I think they finally stopped using an httpdownloaderpool to load chunks though
pulsar wigeon
you can load the skulls ahead of time too async
limber knotBOT
you should cache the profile values, there are plugins (e.g. PlayerUUIDCache) which try to do that on top of it but ideally you use fixed textures and don't query them from mojang
pulsar wigeon
then you don't need a lookup
upper flicker
so progress
pulsar wigeon
they finally stopped using an httpdownloaderpool to load chunks though
excuse me what
limber knotBOT
(which I guess is not possible when you try to load live player heads I guess but still, you shouldn't query the head every time it is shown xD)
upper flicker
hold on Ill go find the patch
sand vale
would it be possible to capture the packets the client sends with a tcp logging server?
upper flicker
yes
pulsar wigeon
obviously?
upper flicker
the connection between the client and server is encrypted but if you have control of an end you can just decrypt it
pulsar wigeon
it's just normal network packets
sand vale
right
pulsar wigeon
not encrypted in offline mode :^)
sand vale
I just really want to know what the first 5 bytes are lol
hard kernel
z ill buy u some more cocaine if you can fix this amateur plugin. ๐
limber knotBOT
also for whatever reason that plugin seems to use nms to set the player head stuff
just go complain to the author ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
sand vale
wiz where? I'm trying to manipulate the TCP packets with HAProxy for connection routing
upper flicker
I think this is .... 1.12 era code? https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/ec31ab32af36990e2bfcfb3db779e3fded42d1f5
vestal jasper
I think I'm retarded
hard kernel
the guy who i had write this is an amateur this is his like 5th plugin or something.
limber knotBOT
is its license GPLv3 compatible? ;D
pulsar wigeon
it's a bukkit plugin, of course it is :^)
limber knotBOT
that's not how it works but k
pulsar wigeon
yea ik
upper flicker
thats how it is supposed to work
limber knotBOT
neither of us is a lawyer ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
upper flicker
but muh peoples
limber knotBOT
yeah, "kinda"
upper flicker
anyone who looks at the licensing history of the bukkit project will find that out pretty quickly
limber knotBOT
but w/e, I don't belive in the whole "API specification can be licensed" thing anyway
upper flicker
bukkit is technically more than an API spec
even if it wasnt, iirc the current standing in the US is that it can be
limber knotBOT
sure, but technically you could re-implement the non-api parts of bukkit
limber knotBOT
doesn't mean anything for plugins though
upper flicker
it does
if you want to take advantage of an api exception, that isnt there atm, you have to build against just the api specification
not an api with obvious impl in it
limber knotBOT
if you believe that the API specification can't be licensed then plugins don't have to be compatible with GPLv3 either
upper flicker
if I believe that the sun orbits the earth that doesnt make it so
limber knotBOT
it does in your head :)
void void
can u both shut up and go back to ur cheerios
void void
just go back to youR CEREAL DAMN IT
upper flicker
sorry dad
limber knotBOT
lol
topaz mortar
๐
woven otter
go back to your taco puffs
limber knotBOT
ah, so Google v. Oracle isn't even decided yet, I thought they have finally come to a conclusion
hard kernel
tacos are delicious
upper flicker
it was decided in favor of google, then appealed in favor of oracle
which is where it stood (stands technically) but because the supreme court is taking the cause that standing is essentially null
limber knotBOT
did the Supreme Court hear it? because wikipedia doesn't have any info on that beyond that they wanted to hear it in the 2019 term
ah
upper flicker
being heard
limber knotBOT
ok
upper flicker
afaik they expect a decision this year
pulsar wigeon
courts take time
upper flicker
lots of groups submitting amicus briefs
pulsar wigeon
but in that time, the current ruling is in favor of oracle
upper flicker
no idea where they are in that process
I think the ruling is frozen until SC returns their verdict
I dont remember them explicitly saying that, but that is usually how it works in cases reviewed by SC
hard kernel
how do i find if its open source?
upper flicker
google pluginname + github
hard kernel
does that mean if there is a github?
limber knotBOT
maybe I just relicense all my shit unter EUPL, at least then the EU backs my rights =D
upper flicker
afaik EUPL is just a more translated GPL
limber knotBOT
yeah
void void
but 
upper flicker
have the EU courts backed up API copyright on either side yet?
void void
on the offchance it's on a diff git host or god forbid some other vcs, you can try "<name> + source code"
wtf discord is having a time again
upper flicker
I dont think that'd be tied to any one license
limber knotBOT
good question, haven't heard anything about that
also New2PC for code to be "open source" it requires that the author released the code under an open source "approved" (more like compatible) license, simply posting the code online doesn't make it open source, it makes it "available source"
github and other git repo hosts often have a helpful indicator at the top of the repo which license is used though
pulsar wigeon
according to certain definitions of "open source"
upper flicker
OSI's definition is pretty much the only one you should worry about
limber knotBOT
according to the definition of the open source community
pulsar wigeon
this is why the phrases "free as in beer" and "free as in speech" were invented
:^)
limber knotBOT
yes, but letting proprietary software companies co-opt the term "open source" hurts the overall movement
upper flicker
free as in wizjany's hammer
vestal jasper
why am I so retarded
pulsar wigeon
<:PepeHands:558444113809244176> why am I so retarded
vestal jasper
literally following the steps to edit patches to the T but it keeps resetting my changes after I ./paper jar
static badge
jar patches
vestal jasper
yeah but if I edit my patches
limber knotBOT
did you create a new patch?
hard kernel
he said he will send me the source code
static badge
yeah you gotta rb it first
vestal jasper
mfw
vestal jasper
rb is what I'm missing
ok next up how do I undo the mess I've created by fucking up the patch edit
static badge
what mess did you create
vestal jasper
Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged
pulsar wigeon
hard reset :^)
static badge
what repo is that
vestal jasper
hard reset to origin/master
Attempting to run ./paper edit server again results in
fatal: It seems that there is already a rebase-merge directory, and
I wonder if you are in the middle of another rebase. If that is the
case, please try
git rebase (--continue | --abort | --skip)
If that is not the case, please
rm -fr ".git/rebase-merge"
and run me again. I am stopping in case you still have something
valuable there.```that file/dir does not exist
limber knotBOT
nice, glad to see ryzen CPUs being available with more hosters
static badge
uh cd into -server and abort the rebase?
vestal jasper
kk
static badge
then reapply patches I guess
unreal quarry
.g xkcd git
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://xkcd.com/1597/ -- Git - xkcd: "< Prev ยท Random ยท Next > ยท >|. Permanent link to this comic: https://xkcd.com/1597/ Image URL (for hotlinking/embedding):..."
limber knotBOT
oh wow, the latsst xkcd comic makes me sad: https://xkcd.com/2254/
(phoenix616) xkcd: JPEG2000 (13 January 2020)
I've already forgotten about that being a thing
vestal jasper
Running ./paper edit continue
opens up a file
are there any edits to that file I should make?
limber knotBOT
uh, and jpeg is turning 30 in 2 years Oo
static badge
edit continue is just rebase continue
vestal jasper
Use result of setItemStack in PlayerBucketEmptyEvent(PaperMC/Paper#2651)
# Please enter the commit message for your changes. Lines starting
# with '#' will be ignored, and an empty message aborts the commit.
#
# Date: Tue Jan 14 05:40:18 2020 -0800
#
# On branch master
# Your branch is up to date with 'origin/master'.
#
# Changes to be committed:
# new file: Spigot-Server-Patches/0425-Use-result-of-setItemStack-in-PlayerBucketEmptyEvent.patch
#
you can edit the commit there
or if you feel like the documentation is fine leave it
vestal jasper
alright
[master 245961fd] Use result of setItemStack in PlayerBucketEmptyEvent(PaperMC/Paper#2651)
Date: Tue Jan 14 05:40:18 2020 -0800
1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
create mode 100644 Spigot-Server-Patches/0425-Use-result-of-setItemStack-in-PlayerBucketEmptyEvent.patch
fatal: No rebase in progress?```that last line slightly worries me
pulsar wigeon
you should be worried
static badge
idk what the edit script even does
sand vale
I wish datacenters would offer $2/month proxy services.
pulsar wigeon
git is gonna come rebase you now :^)
limber knotBOT
AeSix: So a cheap VPS? xD
vestal jasper
I'm also mega retarded and don't have any idea what I'm doing so I am very much worried about everything
upper flicker
edit is just interactive rebase in the sub repos
static badge
just use git
sand vale
I'm using $2/month VPS and running HAProxy...
upper flicker
then it lets you interact with rebase more "easily" after
vestal jasper
I'll prob just start doing this manually
upper flicker
I usually ignore it after the start
sand vale
or I could spend like $600/month and have the stuff forwarded in a router lol
static badge
edit server -> cd -server, git rebase -i upstream/upstream
upper flicker
thats literally all p e s will do
there's like a --continue
but I dont use it
I just use the normal git rebase after
p e s is just super short to type and get me the interactive rebase editor
vestal jasper
alright so I've done
./paper edit server
changed pick to edit
made changes
./paper edit continue
static badge
then rb u fuk
upper flicker
itll keep the change if its committed
static badge
u probably didn't edit continue
upper flicker
if its not keeping changes, git doesnt see it as a commit
vestal jasper
i'm going to see what the patch looks like 
ok yeah I'll continue this later I don't have the patience rn
limber knotBOT
Niiiicee
someone is late to the party
runs
Pff, screw Michael
Nobody likes him anyways
Also, someone is actually being productive at work ๐
twin lagoon
f u
void void
Attention #gamers!
cosmic raft
morning
void void
go back to bed, there is nothing good in here
limber knotBOT
I also clearly did not steal the link from Michael because he send it on discord
twin lagoon
quasi valley
hElLo GaMeRs