modding-discussion

[dusty vortex]

that's just a volume button

what is that supposed to do?

[stone vale]

anyways i lied i swapped to a worse wifi so i can stay on my computer lmao
Press F2 and atlases will be generated in "AppData\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\atlases".The naming of atlas is Animation1@Animation2@...@AnimationN#AtlasName.png
this is my folder of generated atlases

[dusty vortex]

I don't see any atlases there

all my f2 does is change my computer volume slightly

[stone vale]

google how to have ur f2 function as f2 and not volume? mine isnt a volume button so i didnt have that issue

https://www.dell.com/community/Laptops-General-Read-Only/Volume-shortcut-keys-F1-F2-and-F3-do-not-work-I/td-p/5153042 this might be relevant. maybe.

[dusty vortex]

oh I see

I have to hold fn+left shift

then click my f button

that worked

thankGod

my heckin,, dell laptop sounds like it's taking off into space now

[stiff wolf]

sounds about right lol

[dusty vortex]

alright I think it finished that step, it sounds a little calmer now

[stone vale]

read the rest of the godump usage

[dusty vortex]

now I do f3?

[stone vale]

yaya

[dusty vortex]

how do I tell if that one worked?

[stone vale]

GODump.GlobalSettings.json will be updated a new string of animations in your scene

[dusty vortex]

I read it but I'm confused bout it

[stone vale]

open GODump.GlobalSettings.json with notepad or similar program

[dusty vortex]

this look right?

[stone vale]

yes

before you hit f4, remove any of the anims in AnimationsToDump you dont care about/wont be reskinning

in my case, i removed everything but Knight

[dusty vortex]

trying to figure out what to keep and what not to

will I be able to come back and re-add stuff later if I need more than just knight?

[stiff wolf]

yeah

[dusty vortex]

what is knight effects anim?

is that important

[dry snow]

does anyone know how to edit sprites on mac?

[stiff wolf]

https://github.com/nesrak1/sseadv/releases/ check this out (i'm not sure how to use it but it packs sprites on mac)

or just edit sprite sheets

[dusty vortex]

just gotta wait for it to load all the anim info for my sprites now..

does Hollow Knight still need to be open?

will closing it mess up the sprites saving?

[dry snow]

i tried to do this bit it wouldnt work, it has an exe file. so would i just edit the spritesheet with something like krita?

[dusty vortex]

(I explained the complicated way to edit sprites with Krita earlier today if you scroll up)

(and wanna do it that way)

it was the way some video on youtube showed it, no plugins or anything

[dry snow]

thanks didnt see it

[dusty vortex]

ye it's cool-

hopefully that helps

I'm still new to all this too but..

Also Egg Node thank you so much for helping me so much agh

I wouldn't be able to do any of this without you helping me

[stone vale]

afaik hk needs to be open. might be wrong tho — i havent tried closing it while sprite folders are being generated

👍

[dusty vortex]

yeahhh I figure it does need to be open, since that json file is working through the game

it'd probably just close with the game

[dusty vortex]

@stone vale files finally downloaded, you around for one more question?

[stone vale]

on my phone rn, but ya

[dusty vortex]

okay sweey

so I do this, like in the example video

then I get the sprites from the folders with the anim files, right?

except I go there and,, empty

[stone vale]

just hit select folder

[dusty vortex]

oh

djfhdjdfbdf

thankyou

:D this is so much easier

wow

[stone vale]

i didnt notice the prompt til now, but yaya :^)

[dusty vortex]

I followed the prompt, just monke brain thought I had to select a file

didn't realize select folder would actually work

[stone vale]

yeah i had a couple momence setting this up where i questioned if i was doing it right (namely selecting a zip file and selecting a folder)

[dusty vortex]

haha yeah, it was weird to set up

I appreciate your help a ton

[stone vale]

enjoy ur cool krita setup! ill get used to krita........ maybe............

[dusty vortex]

dewit

make egg

[stone vale]

OTL csp tho

[dusty vortex]

?

[stone vale]

clip studio paint

it’s what ive been using, but i havent been previewing anims in there. idk how to use the animation feature there

id imagine if i learned how 2 use krita it’d go faster. but. learning new art programs kills the me

[dusty vortex]

what does OTL mean also

[stone vale]

it’s a little dude

[dusty vortex]

also krita is so similar to photoshop

o he sittin

oh wait

no he upset

the poor little dude

[dusty vortex]

yea I realized after a second dgndg

[stone vale]

kind of lol

[dusty vortex]

poor mans

but ye spend some time with krita, it ain't so bad

[stone vale]

unfortunately i never got good enough at photoshop to use it for illustrations

[dusty vortex]

aww yeah

[stone vale]

whenever my brian gives me enough energy 2 learn it, i will :^)

[dusty vortex]

yessssssss

the egg is just so cute, can't wait for the day

[stone vale]

someday......

[dusty vortex]

yes....

[stone vale]

goobaba i go sleep now smile

[dusty vortex]

me too, it so late

sleep well my dude

[stone vale]

💤

u 2!

[dusty vortex]

[teal kraken]

how does the multiplayer mod work?

[nimble lichen]

If I said magic that probably wouldn't be helpful

[viscid aspen]

so uhh back in january i made the trans knight skin and i wonder if anyone wants me to remake it to look like an actual skin rather than a recolor? idk though

[late lodge]

this the recolour?

that not "just a recolour"

i mean, you decide if you want to change it but i find it pretty good rn

[viscid aspen]

eh true, but its quite low effort compared to the other skins ive made, even if its just made in 1 hour

so idk does anyone else want trans knight

[late lodge]

fits with transtrans

[nocturne sky]

I mean I'd like just a trans cdash if it's not too much of a bother

[karmic drift]

Is there some glass soul mod available for current patch ? Because ik that there was one at the time of 1.2.2.1 but it doesnt seems to have been updated

[late lodge]

check pins

i saw it somewhere...

[gilded sierra]

pins of #archived-modding-help ?

[karmic drift]

got it thanks :D

[dry snow]

hey guys the pure vessel skins with hud and spells said there was a challenge for it, is that out or, not?

[late lodge]

no its private now

the only way to get it is to be a member of TWP

[dry snow]

ok

[swift bison]

It was never public :(

[abstract tendon]

This isn't the place for modding help. You've already found #archived-modding-help, let's keep it there.

[dusty vortex]

What is the white palace and is it possible to join them

[nocturne sky]

TWP are a group who make fantastic, high-quality skins for customknight

It should be possible but very hard to join them

You'll need to talk to poppy, I think they're called

They come in here once in a while

[viscid aspen]

you need to create a tencentqq account

cuz they are a chinese group

[nocturne sky]

Also that ^

I have no idea what it is but you'll need to do that too

[viscid aspen]

its harrd to create a qq acc if ure not from china

i tried

most of twp members cant speak english that well so uhh yeah
they have a translator tho

funny because i myself is chinese but i cant speak shit

[atomic ledge]

i did it

but got banned from china

[nocturne sky]

Hunt what

[atomic ledge]

what

[hexed nimbus]

wait what

how did you get banned?

[atomic ledge]

i asked blackmoon for p5 speedrunning tips and it translated to can i have money to speedrun p5

thing prob thought i was a bot

so i got banned

[viscid aspen]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WHY IS THAT SO FUNNY IM SO SORRY WHAT THE FUCK LMFAOO

[late lodge]

lol

[dusty vortex]

Ah dang they chinese

Why is it that Asian countries have the world's best artists

At least as far as I've noticed lately

Idk what they do different over there art-wise but I'm jealous of it

I'll just have to keep doing my best with this mans

Heard that tencent was involved with spyware from other folks and I don't wanna get into that

[calm prism]

nice

[dusty vortex]

[calm prism]

[upper crest]

can i move the bonfire mod menu?

[dusty vortex]

[upper crest]

like the upgrade thing

[weak plinth]

If you recode the mod.

Otherwise no

[upper crest]

i'm gonna destroy it if i do that, RIP

[hexed nimbus]

EnemyChanger (Invisible Edition), makes bosses invisible (at least the bosses in godhome, overworld versions not tested), requires SFCore

[wicked berry]

pog

[hexed nimbus]

update: makes a bit more than just bosses invisible

[gilded sierra]

is this just dumbmod but less

[hexed nimbus]

idk what dumbmod does, but this makes bosses and attached stuff invisible

which includes the ground swords of PV

[gilded sierra]

dumbmod I believe attempts to make everything invisible, including particles from boss attacks

[wicked berry]

can I pay someone to remove the contact damage glitch from anyrad

asking for a friend

[topaz oriole]

question about the Hollow Point mod. How do I do the desolate dive/something similar? i just wanted to know if it just takes me equiping something that gives me a class and then it basically lets me break the ground, or if theres something special

[late lodge]

#archived-modding-help

and you can just use the desolate dive provided by the mod to break floors

[topaz oriole]

Cool my bad, I assumed help was more for the technical side of things =]

[full apex]

So for anyone from #art-discussion who wants a Palewatch Mod, there's a couple problems i currrently have, besides not know how to code yet:

1. I dont own the game on PC, i own it on Xbox One which cant be modded.
2. I'd need alot of character models i don't have and i'm not an animator
3. I am only 13, what do you expect?
4. S c h o o l. Aka i probably wont have the time to code it.

and 5:

I tend to lose motivation for things, and it takes a VERY LONG WHILE TO RECHARGE.

[abstract tendon]

Good luck

[swift bison]

What’s palewatch

[late lodge]

<#art-discussion message>

[abstract tendon]

Woah, that's a lot for someone to take on with so many stipulations... Maybe start with a simpler modding idea or a small piece of that @full apex. Knock out a few small victories first before you decide to put an entire DLC on your shoulders.

[swift bison]

Yeah

[viscid aspen]

i agree here, a 13 year old shouldnt have to partake in that big of a project

[abstract tendon]

Well. I heavily disagree with that sentiment based purely on age. If they want to work on a mod, even a big one, they can and should feel capable of doing so.

It's just them admitting that they have big hurdles to get over that tells me that they may want to start small.

[viscid aspen]

personally a 13 year old isnt capable enough physically and mentally to make a mod THAT big

[abstract tendon]

Lol, well, okay. This isn't a channel to discuss developmental psychology.

[viscid aspen]

true but i was just saying

i think op needs to just start smaller

[abstract tendon]

@full apex Do a lot of reading, find a group to ask questions to. DM me if you need advice, but don't ask general programming questions in #archived-modding-development since that gets old real quick. (We want to help modders mod the game but that's different from teaching people to program.) Practice with some small programs or mods and don't feel pressured to do any one thing over another. If you want this to be a hobby, make it one.

[viscid aspen]

i agree

i dont personally make mods for hollow knight tho, i just make skins

[minor tinsel]

me with thunder knight heheheheheheheheheheheheh

it's been almost a year since i first had the concept and i'm still not done

[viscid aspen]

can i see

[split haven]

holy shit daughter of hollownest is insane

[minor tinsel]

i've been thinking of putting together a test video just to show people that there's actual progress but tbh the end product wouldn't be that different from what it is now, just the horns

[viscid aspen]

hm a screenshot?

[minor tinsel]

wait i forgot i recorded this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283680756159741953/794775881527722044/2021-01-01_19-52-46.mp4

[dusty vortex]

Not done yet, but if anybody feels like checking out my progress and giving it a rating, or your opinion on it, that'd be neat

I have most of the basic movements done for the little demon knight

walk, run, jump, land, non-shadow dash.. not much nail slashes or wall jumps but

I'm starting to get somewhere

little man lookin good

[calm prism]

It looks fantastic just by looking at the sprite

[calm prism]

😈 demon Knight ohh yeah

[calm prism]

very clean

You're doing a great job

[dusty vortex]

Thankyou

[iron orchid]

Damn he got that devil drip

[random ginkgo]

SlashAlt

It's plain, and quite easy to make, but I'm somewhat proud with how it's coming together 👍

[silver garden]

It's looking good! I think it's much better than my attempt, TBH

[random ginkgo]

Thanks! Don't put yourself down, I'm sure yours was better!

I was previously using the AirBrush from Sai with 11 density and 15 size, but, after looking through Void beings' sprites, I found that using ~20 size and 5 density makes it look closer to them.

Another interesting fact is that, although it seems like their eyes have a shining effect, only the Siblings and the Shade Lord seem to have the effect, with the Knight's Shade and the Collector only having white eyes in the sprites 👍

Moving onto the moving animations now.

Ah, right, I also did SlashEffect and SlashEffectAlt

SlashEffect

Alt

Thinking of changing Grubberfly's Elegy, too, so it doesn't get mismatched with the slash. Though... if I can't change GrubE's slash, I'll probably revert back to the original instead

[silver garden]

It was not better, I promise.

[barren wharf]

Working on Shade Knight rn

[coarse finch]

Are the skin challenges still active or is that not kept up anymore?

[barren wharf]

Some are some aren’t

[coarse finch]

Figured, shame. There's a few by TWP I wanted but they were challenge only.

[mighty ridge]

Ok im just curious. If i play a randomizer and i get a dreamer before i get to false knight (which would mean crossroads become infected) am i then permenantly locked out of ancestral mound? Because then the normal entrance would be blocked off right?

[dry snow]

https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe is this the mod installer

[hexed fossil]

#modding-discussion message

[late lodge]

yes

[silver garden]

The gate opens when you get infection

So you come in from the left

[glad sparrow]

does anyone know what causes the Godtuner to have a sprite with a black center in the inventory? like in this screenshot:

[dusky narwhal]

Maybe you need to beat Pantheon of hollownest?

[late lodge]

Its supposed to be black

It was always black

[gilded sierra]

the centre becomes bronze when you beat all pantheons

i think it glows when you have ab too?

[glad sparrow]

I was hoping somebody in this channel had some info from the files about what causes the Godtuner sprite to change, none of these guesses are really helpful, sorry

[stone vale]

im hoping that the wiki’s accurate

[glad sparrow]

that's the reason why I'm here, to update the wiki

[stone vale]

my bad

[late lodge]

is it not up to date?

[glad sparrow]

nobody on the wiki's discord knew how to access the file info about Godtuner's sprite change, so I thought I'd ask here

the info is accurate, just not complete

[late lodge]

i mean if you can read code

its in the assembly.Csharp.dll its called ShowGodfinderIcon

[glad sparrow]

I have no idea how to open that or how to interpret the info there

[late lodge]

maybe in the FSM's

i'll look in the FSM's

[glad sparrow]

thanks

[late lodge]

i cant find it

maybe someone else can help

[glad sparrow]

ty for trying anyway

[late lodge]

i can tell you how to open it but not how to interpret it

you can open it with DNspy

[gilded sierra]

showgodfindericon is not what shows the godfinder icon in inventory

[late lodge]

no, so i looked at just GodfinderIcon later

[glacial heron]

Who here can make HK mods, I have an idea

I made a Tiso boss fight layout

[random ginkgo]

Tiso boss fight?

[glacial heron]

Yes

He deserved one

Here’s a doc with his attacks and stuff https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Iq6dQN1u8dXEf5s-Iyh8Jo5dbS8_81du_GY5BdfGcPA/edit?usp=sharing

If anyone knows how to make a mod like this, I can provide sprites and music

[tacit skiff]

and where do you find tiso?

[dreamy heron]

anyone know of a mod that makes inventory drop work again?

[atomic ledge]

QOL mod

[dreamy heron]

is it on Modinstaller2?

[atomic ledge]

on both

its called quality of life mod

[dreamy heron]

ok thanks

[prisma rune]

whats the fastest build for firerate on hollow point mod

[glacial heron]

You dream nail his corpse in kingdom's edge

[warm moth]

hi

does anyone have any insight / any links for info about how to make mods that change the music?

i believe hk uses dynamic music which makes it somewhat difficult, but i'm wanting to replace some of the boss themes

[random elk]

On GitHub search for custom bgm and read the readme

[solid cypress]

wow. i just beat an invisible pure vessel.

[coarse finch]

Grats. I can barely handle the regular one.

[golden zenith]

when i go from modded to vanilla is there a chance my game file might get begoned?

[late lodge]

Why would it

[golden zenith]

because in some games it has happened but thanks for answering

is there a hotkey to hide/show the debug menu?

the mod debug

[random elk]

F1

[golden zenith]

thanks

[mighty cradle]

I know there's a "Hell mode", but is there a "Hard mode"?

[late lodge]

steelsoul

nah Hell Mod is the only "Hard mode" out there

[mighty cradle]

Ah, sucks.

[late lodge]

i mean, other mods such as hollow point make the game harder, but only because there are different mechanics

[mighty cradle]

I'm aware, I was just hoping for a mod that makes HK harder, but not quite as hard as Hell mod.

[atomic ledge]

Hell mod just kinda makes the game more tedious imo, nerfing nail damage gets boring after a while

[mighty cradle]

To me it's not the damage nerf, it's the amount of damage that got nerfed

Half is quite a lot

And losing 4 masks from any explosive or heavy hitting enemy is annoying as hell

[errant solar]

Is there a mod that allows for multiplayer hollow knight>

[vagrant orbit]

HKMP is actively in development and being updated: https://github.com/Extremelyd1/HKMP

That's a link to the GitHub, which includes a link to the support server if you have questions, and you can find the latest version of the mod in "releases".

• Enemies won't be synchronized (currently, no multiplayer mod does this). It is a feature being looked into/worked on though.
• Skins are able to be used (although currently out only supports the Knight itself, not spells)

[errant solar]

is it downloadable through the mod manager or only through github?

[vagrant orbit]

Currently only from the GitHub. It'll eventually be added to the Mod Installer, but probably not until updates slow down

[errant solar]

thank you

[twin bone]

Heya quick question, does anyone know if the Multiplayer mod and the twitch chat commands mod can work together? >.>

[swift bison]

they should work fine

[twin bone]

Cool thank you! 😄

[native beacon]

has anybody made a ss texture pack yet? or is hornet just too tall for it

[late lodge]

Daughter of hallownest

[solid cypress]

haha thanks yeah people in fireborns server were cheering me on about it. next step is inviisble PoH but surprisingly enough VFK and gruz are super annoying lol

[atomic ledge]

What mod are you using

[solid cypress]

using one superflash made to pull spritesheets then deleting everything on them

[random elk]

this ?#modding-discussion message

[solid cypress]

only exceptions that i keep are rng related attacks (or in the case of pv i kept the dagger throw since the particles made it easy to see anyways with no hitbox confusion

[solid cypress]

no older version i need to get back to him on the bugs then yeah probably

just contacted him with the major bug

[maiden cove]

For making stuff like Fyremoth for example, do you just remodel the game files?

If so I kind of want to try making a skin mod ngl

[solid cypress]

you need the knights spritesheet

i believe

then something to use said spritesheet

[atomic ledge]

invisible uumuu

insane

[maiden cove]

So can you make a full retexture mod then

for bosses and areas and stuff

[hexed nimbus]

fully retexture might overload some people's pc's so i currently put work to make bosses just invisible

though that has its own problems

[maiden cove]

huh

so you can retexture bosses and npcs and the knight

and more might overload something

got it

[solid cypress]

not as bad as you think in regular its got a lot of particles for its attacks and is relatively slow. hornet 1 is the real deal

hornet 1 hurts because everything you hear is false and fake and a lie

[atomic ledge]

uumuus spawns?

[solid cypress]

yeah particles when it jumps from the acid

[atomic ledge]

oh ic

dumb mod removes particles

i like to use that for invisible stuff

[solid cypress]

i keep particles because with how ive made things invis its quite ridiculous

i posted a vid of beating pure vessel and the attacks that are visible are related to RNG

or like the attack where he shoots out void tentacles is on e a seperate sheet

thats why radiance is jank with the old enemy changer

[hexed nimbus]

grimm too

[solid cypress]

yeah

hes not as jank once hes invis

but when its copying the sheet his teleport gets wack af

@atomic ledge also speaking of invisible uumuu i beat the game any% with every boss invisible that took about 20 hours

invisible uumuu was a one and done type deal but wk and thk took a while

[hexed nimbus]

this should work, though generates a few more spritesheets, but grimm now has 3 spritesheets for himself

[solid cypress]

alright ill check it when i can

[coarse finch]

How on earth would you even do invisible collector or sly?

[solid cypress]

collecter is a lot more simple dont jump like a maniac and look for where he lands hell jump over you. havent tried sly but im sure theres a way to do it

[atomic ledge]

invisible sly is easy, collectore might be annoying

[solid cypress]

parrying is a move thats useful vs sly

[atomic ledge]

or just listening to sound cues and hitting at the right time

[coarse finch]

Sorry if I don't take your word for what's easy, mr. R5

[solid cypress]

yeah

[atomic ledge]

slys sound cues are distinct

thats what makes it easy

[solid cypress]

^

[atomic ledge]

compared to other bosses, hes not gona be a problem

[coarse finch]

I see. I guess I just need more practice either way

[solid cypress]

as the man who does invisible for a living ive noticed that esp phase 2

[atomic ledge]

especially considering horrnet 2 is right after

[solid cypress]

yeah hornet 2 hurts

hornet 1 is worse in base game

hunt have you tried hornet 1 base game invis?

[atomic ledge]

no

i just messed in godhome

[solid cypress]

its hell. no dash only vs

i shade skipped to get quick focus and it still took like an hour after

[coarse finch]

come to think of it, do mantis lords have any identifying particles when invisible?

[solid cypress]

idk havent made them invis

worse comes to worst i just spam ddark to win

[atomic ledge]

just use wall manipulation

[solid cypress]

VFK and gruz become difficult

theyre just annoying

vfk has late audio cues and gruz is just annoying because gruz

[coarse finch]

ugh, now I'm just thinking of the worse, most cursed concept ever

a white palace mod but with invisible sawblades

actually that's basically just the cloud skip, so maybe not that bad?

if vfk is an issue, would winged nosk be even worse?

[atomic ledge]

its dives have sound cues

earlier than VKs iirc

[coarse finch]

If it's earlier then that'd be helpful. I never noticed all the audio timing cues since the randomized sfx always throws me off from trying to use that. I guess I have a new thing to work on.

wait, would grimmchild be a legitimate strategy with invisible enemies since it'd give you a rough indicator of where they are? especially for some more annoying floaters like Galien or maybe hu. I've only done inviso HK so I don't know what does or doesn't show up

[hexed nimbus]

grimm/nkg issues are no more, this version should definetly work

[coarse finch]

https://i.imgur.com/M71t4zc.png

Yes there's a bug with nosk. It's another nosk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGu7ABednnM

God hunt's a masochist. a crazy genius masochist but still

[solid cypress]

him and i both haha

invisible bosses can take hours alone

[solid cypress]

@atomic ledge you dirty nosk cheeser i saw that ai abuse at 1:02

[atomic ledge]

I didnt even realise it till then tbh

He stopped so i went for it when he was gonna jump but then saw it

[solid cypress]

lol its fine i mean i used the wall a lot when i beat pure vessel invisible

[coarse finch]

I also can't believe hunt plays on keyboard.

[solid cypress]

i do too...

😳

[errant lance]

i also cannot believe a player uses an input method to control the character

[coarse finch]

I can't imagine playing a game like this on keyboard. Gotta have my tactile feedback

[solid cypress]

i didnt have a program to show my key inputs on the oure vessel one but i can show it if ya guys want

[coarse finch]

Go for it. I love input displays.

I love seeing how other people perform stuff even if it's not what I'd do

[solid cypress]

i was meaning the pure vessel video but yeah ill add that too for PoH

@errant lance is it cool if i link the video? dont wanna seem like im advertising for exposure

[errant lance]

i suppose so

the occasional 1 off is fine it's usually when people spam them constantly that it's really considered advert

imo

[solid cypress]

alright just wanted to make sure

https://youtu.be/mmTJ-B9NyKU

this is my only video i have open for viewing anyways so its all good on that end. itll be a long time before a second cause well hello invisible PoH isnt easy

anyways yeah that took about like 2-3 hours

[coarse finch]

I haven't practiced it enough but is it possible to dodge his focus entirely with shadow dash?

the big initial burst. I can't tell if it's too meaty or not

[atomic ledge]

Nice one

Yes it is, just tight

[coarse finch]

oh wow, I also didn't expect the tentacle attack to be visible. Seriously good job on this

[solid cypress]

dunno if you saw but i missed the timing at one point, its something i practiced a lot

just kinda came naturally through practice

[coarse finch]

I also gotta learn how to heal properly in that fight. A lot of the time I just give up and try to kill him before I die since I can't ever seem to heal without taking more damage

And despite that I still have an easier time with PV than Sly.

[solid cypress]

quick focus allows 2 mask during focus and stagger

[coarse finch]

What's your charm setup?

[solid cypress]

for that one i put it in the description lemme find it

[coarse finch]

oh, no shaman's. wow.

[solid cypress]

qs qf strength and ln

yeah

no spells

conserved my soul for healing

[coarse finch]

was longnail actually helpful or was it more filler?

What ended up killing you the most, his regular jump?

[solid cypress]

failed timing of pogos

and long nail was to help reach just a little further

extra backstop

easy to "see" something with a hit effect

[coarse finch]

fair, figured something like that. Man, I wish longnail and mop were cheaper. I always have a hard time filling in that last charm slot with a typical shamans/steady/quick/strength build.

[solid cypress]

i default to grubsong on 1 notch tbh

i dont like steady body it throws my game off

[coarse finch]

I don't like not having steady body. It lets me attack properly at max range without worrying about being pushed back into hitboxes, like during pv's swords.

[solid cypress]

i dont use it cause its useful for positioning during invis boss fights

[coarse finch]

does it not let you get extra hits in during swords or is it not worth it

[solid cypress]

not worth

and i think it doesnt matter if you keep moving forward

[coarse finch]

forwards? What do you mean?

You can stand still and use SB. that's like the whole point

can you reliably attack while moving in order to stay between stuff like grimm/pv's spikes?

[solid cypress]

nono

without steady body

[coarse finch]

Yeah, can you do that without it?

or do you just let them go off?

[glacial heron]

not trying to be annoying but anybody here know how to create mods?

[atomic ledge]

#archived-modding-development

[fiery arch]

Hey, I have a question... if I've already got the HK mod installer and it just... doesn't wanna open the exe what do?

[random elk]

#archived-modding-help

[fiery arch]

is the speedrun mod for HK the same as the QOL mod?

[random elk]

Read the readmes for both

[left canopy]

So its been a little since I last messed with Hollow Knight and I wanted to turn off all the mods through modinstaller

and everytime I go to open it up it like instantly closes

even if I run it as admin

does anyone know a solution to this?

[silver garden]

If you're turning the mods off go to your steam install, right click and find "Verify integrity of game files"

That will sort it

[left canopy]

kk

Thank you that helped so much!

[prisma slate]

Hi! I have an amazing idea for a mod, and I'm a bit curious to how far you guys have gotten with modding development, has someone been able to edit what happens when you beat a boss for example?

[silver garden]

You'll want #archived-modding-development for the code side of things, mainly!

That's where the smart people hang out

[prisma slate]

oh, thank you

[swift bison]

yes, we can edit basically anything that can be edited in c#

[hexed nimbus]

the only limits are your own imagination (and ability to code)

[indigo copper]

would it be possible for the multiplayer mod to have shared enemies between players? (both players enemies have the same health and location at all times essentially, or at least same health)

[late lodge]

you can hit each others enemy's, but enemy sync is not implemented yet

[swift bison]

Heard of debug?

[indigo copper]

so enemy sync is planned but not finished yet then?

[late lodge]

yep

well

not for the one on the installer

[indigo copper]

where is the one not on the installer

[late lodge]

https://github.com/Extremelyd1/HKMP/blob/master/README.md

[indigo copper]

ok thanks

[dry snow]

What are popular mods?

Asking because I’m making a list of hollow knight terminology so if someone starts talking about a popular mod they can reference the list to figure out which one

[weak plinth]

?mods

[granite agate]

Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1lnjtSYMfRe1LyA_qSq2CoXKI6NRm_I-e
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew

[dry snow]

Oh thanks

[vagrant orbit]

@rose tartan I forgot I was in #archived-modding-help when I was taking about that lol.

A discussion about Weaver Core came up in another server, and two main points came up there:

• The button is just kinda visually awkward
• The inability to use it during gameplay means that it can't be used for things like Multiplayer or Benchwarp.

Would it be feasible to let mod authors decide for each setting of it was available during gameplay or not? That might fix your original concern.

[late lodge]

Try to find a spot for the button that doesn't interfere with well-known mods like debug, benchwarp, and ofc HKMP

A good place to place it is for example down middle

Or down right

As the only thing there are the console for debugmid which most people dont use

[rose tartan]

Sorry for the late response, at work so I don’t have many opportunities to use my phone. I got a few ideas to fix some of the issues

I can turn the button into a hamburger menu that takes up less space, and when the mouse hovers over it, it will expand to show the name of the button.

I can relocate it down towards the bottom-right where it is less likely to conflict with other UIs

And I should be able to introduce an attribute so certain properties can be changed during the game in the pause menu, but may take some time.

[vagrant orbit]

• No worries about time to respond. I understand the pain of trying to communicate while also being largely unavailable. Not to mention, you have no obligation to actually respond lol.

• Those changes sound amazing! Thank you so much for considering them

[vagrant orbit]

@steady elbow If you're not the main maintainer for Benchwarp, then sorry for the ping:

Would it be possible to get a similar treatment for Benchwarp in a future update, where the whole UI can be collapsed into one button?

Possibly also add an optional interaction with WeaverCore, where Benchwarp could be inside of a WeaverCore page (Although I'm unsure if that functionality is realistic based on how many buttons are in BW).

[steady elbow]

The menu is already almost entirely collapsible by enabling "Warp Only" and disabling "Enable Deploy" from the settings. I don't know what more could be done other than reducing that from two clicks to one, which doesn't seem very important.

No plans for interactions with WeaverCore.

[swift bison]

I think it’d be good if the ModdingApi could just add a way to select which mod menu is open

But that means that someone needs to put in effort

[hexed nimbus]

i don't want to do ui since a sfcore bug i once found but then never heard of again

[swift bison]

Huh

What happened?

[hexed nimbus]

couldn't scroll to an item in the new item thing, happened exactly once to me (didn't test again lol), but never heard of something like that afaik

[swift bison]

Happens often to me

[hexed nimbus]

just saw that you also told me that already

[swift bison]

If an item is added after loading the save tmk

[hexed nimbus]

even though that shouldn't happen as i basically copy the journal functionality, idk

[swift bison]

I had that happen when messing with journal helper

I forgot exactly what I did

I’ll have to look at the Fsm

[hexed nimbus]

i probably just forgot to set an int or something

[swift bison]

But I might not since that requires effort

Well I might as well do it since I need to convince myself to get on my computer anyways

Looks like the Current Item fsm int needs to be set

Nvm I’m dumb after school

Item Count fsm int

(Appears to be zero based index)

[hexed nimbus]

yea, idk how the normal journal does it, but it indeed only gets set once

[swift bison]

Probably something to do with the notification that pops up

Or something with health managers

[vagrant orbit]

I keep it in Warp Only, and keep everything collapsed (deploy is there, because of Grim tent), but the problem is that even with these settings, the buttons scroll along the entire top of the screen just by being on. And this isn't even accounting for "Set Start" which is on the side.
This just seems like something that could be potentially addressed in some way, especially considering that a lot of the time, the only button needed feels like it's Warp to instantly warp back to the previous bench.

That being said, I understand that having the whole thing default as collapsed into another button might be annoying for some people. I largely just like the idea of seeing mods not inherently take up so much UI space, especially ones that are actively maintained, since there's less likelyhood of other mods being updated to take up less space.

[swift bison]

^

[vagrant orbit]

On the "bright side", Benchwarp itself seems to be usually underneath other menus, so when there's overlap, it's usually the other menu that is clicked on, instead of Benchwarp; so making BW collapse wouldn't really fix that.

[vagrant orbit]

I absolutely support this, fwiw.

I'm pretty sure I've seen you mention the idea before, and it came up as well in the similar discussion that I had in the HKMP server. But I also understand the idea of not wanting the API itself to do anything that it doesn't have to, so-to-speak.

[swift bison]

^

[vagrant orbit]

My thinking that the API won't support it, due to it not being really required within the scope of an API, is what makes me really want to see more mods potentially using WeaverCore.

[swift bison]

I don’t really see why I’d need to use it, don’t really get what’s in it

[vagrant orbit]

Or, more specifically, optionally use WeaverCore. Like, just check to see if it's installed, and if it is, move the mod options to it.

[swift bison]

that requires effort

[vagrant orbit]

WeaverCore just adds Mod Menu pages AFAIK

[swift bison]

Oh I think I remember

Let me check journal helper

PlayerData.CountJournalEntries

[cinder sphinx]

does anyone have the mod installer file

[swift bison]

#archived-modding-help description

it's also in the pins everywhere in these channels....

[cinder sphinx]

@swift bison thank you

[rose tartan]

It does, but it’s not properly documented and somewhat limited at the moment. That is something I want to address though, so it can become something other people can use

[cold talon]

is there a easy way to see enemies health on cheat engine or something similar? (outside of hollow knight)

[swift bison]

idk on cheat engine but you can with debug mod

[weak plinth]

And enemyhpbar

Nothing outside of hk

You'd have to write something to export that data in real time

[cold talon]

@weak plinth so cheat engine or something like that would not work right?

[swift bison]

yeah

[weak plinth]

what even is that

or are you just talking about some generic cheat engine

[cold talon]

@weak plinth I don't know much about the topic, I just thought about opening cheat engine and cheat engine showing me the values of the boss I'm fighting

[weak plinth]

what is "cheat engine"

[swift bison]

prob https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheat_Engine

[cold talon]

Lol, I will copy the wikipedia text: Cheat Engine is a free and open-source memory scanner/debugger created by Eric Heijnen for the Windows operating system. Cheat Engine is mostly used for cheating in computer games and is sometimes modified and recompiled to evade detection.

yeah, what someone said

[weak plinth]

just use enemyhpbar

it's a mod

for hk

has boss hp bars

[swift bison]

debug(mod) will show you exact values though

[weak plinth]

that works too

a bit more visually intrusive

but both work

[cold talon]

It's not really a big deal, I dont want to use the debug mod or hp bars because I'm recording a video, so I just wanted to have the remain health values on the other screen to see how close I am to beat it

[swift bison]

then you need a mod that does that

[weak plinth]

yes

to export the data real time

and something else to read that data

[swift bison]

probably something similar to player data tracker

[weak plinth]

yeah

but that doesn't currently exist

so you'd have to write both the exporting mod and the receiving system

[swift bison]

maybe constantly updating a text file and using notepad ++?

[weak plinth]

could work

[swift bison]

well not constantly, but on healthmanagers enabling and taking damage

[weak plinth]

couldn't be regular notepad for obvious reasons

[swift bison]

yeah

[cold talon]

I see, well, I have no clue about these things, and i just asked in case there was an easy way to do. Thank you for the info though

appreciate it ♥

[chilly mauve]

FYI. as of March 3, the mod installer has a very old version of Player Data Tracker (2.7.3.3) that has bugs. the previous 3.1.0.5 URL is:
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1x_nx2Nhfm_GPWqis0k-3tAuiYfvEpSNr
and a newer 3.1.0.5 URL, from the pinned Google Drive, is:
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1sU7olevHbe3yXtOv9dUTVqXmYo6wjMUg

[shy laurel]

hey guys i just downloaded the mod and tried the pain of path and wanted to play the regular path of pain, is it possible ? thanks in advance :D

[finite spear]

what mod

[dry snow]

uh, i've got a question about using the randomizer+QoL mod. It wont let me open the door to Jiji???

[finite spear]

yep

that's a thing with the mod

[chilly mauve]

Jiji Hints: trade a rancid egg for information on which areas contain which items. Hints are given for progression items, in the order that they were intended to be collected. Already obtained items are skipped.

[dry snow]

Yes I know but it wont let me get to jiji

[finite spear]

do you have key

[dry snow]

Yeah ive got the simple key

I have been looking for the monarch wings for so long now and i cant find it

[finite spear]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I've never used her

[weak plinth]

you need more than 1

rando will not let you use a key there until you have enough to cover possible progression

[dry snow]

o h

darn it that means i need the dream nail

[low pendant]

e

[warm moth]

im still trying to figure out the music thing

im getting stuck very quickly lol

i'm manually installing the mod and its just, not working

[worn mortar]

has anyone made a mod where everyone is zote but zote

and you start with life ender as a nail

even the radiance is zote

bretta is zote

but og zote is not zote

[vague bobcat]

You haven't made it yet

[autumn karma]

YES

[urban herald]

how do I change of the Enemy randomizer?

ah nvm I found it

[hexed nimbus]

Oh really? Where?

[swift bison]

I’d like to see too

[ancient rampart]

With the randomizer does it randomize with progression in mind or does it just put shit wherever?

[abstract tendon]

It enforces that you can logically beat the seed. In other words: it won't put claws in a spot you need claws to get to.

This is tweakable by checking what skips you want on.

[ancient rampart]

Ah alright and I assume it does that weather you have room rando or not?

[weak plinth]

yes

[ancient rampart]

Very cool

Me and my friend broke progression then

[weak plinth]

?

[ancient rampart]

We were playing multiplayer and pogoed on each other

To get to places we needed claw and wings for

[weak plinth]

[warm moth]

room rando also should have a difficulty effect that allows you to choose which skips are allowed in the rng logic

I believe so, at least

[vagrant orbit]

@elfin skiff
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14MNYK-NjrwgZLG93xVYibrVZJj-S1NOT5xfhtojPOgY/edit

[mighty cradle]

Real gamer setup right here, on hell mod nonetheless.

(It's kinda funny because this is actually the first time I beat NKG legitimately)

Using Charm Overhaul and Grimmchild Upgrades

[nimble sierra]

this is a dumb question but, i just got into mods but i don't know where any knight skins are, can someone help?

[weak plinth]

?pins

[granite agate]

Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png

[nimble sierra]

Oh thanks xd

[fathom cairn]

heyo, so a friend and I are doing area randomizers, and I was curious if anyone had a list of what every individual area is? (not like greenpath, dirtmouth, but like those areas split up like how deepnest is like 4(?) areas)

might be the wrong channel for this, if so sorry

[gilded sierra]

a map is pinned in #randomizer showing the areas

[lost karma]

not sure if anyone really cares, but something i've noticed with a few skins have weird......stray pixels, or white outlines. they may be hard to spot in something like a photo viewer, but they do show up in game, and this started with the hornet knight skin actually, in the daughter of hallownest modpack.

So, in my spare time, i went ahead, and began to clean them up, remove the stray pixels, and even remove the white outlines. And i have gotten permission from to reshare, as long as i give credit

however, i recently moved over to a desktop, and any progress made was lost, but don't worry, im back to work fixing the sprites up, and in a few days, i'll have the skin ready to upload

to give an idea on what i mean about stray pixels

by setting up a 2nd underlayer, and setting the bucket to fill in a certain way, these stray pixels are very easy to notice

[vagrant orbit]

Someone else was working on cleaning up the Hornet skin a few months ago

[lost karma]

that was me

i think

[vagrant orbit]

Ahh lol

[lost karma]

that main issue is just how tedius it is

removing the white outlines that the sprites have is easy

but i haven't found a easy way to remove the stray pixels without also risking the sprites

outside of manualy erasing/deleting them

[umbral rover]

oh my god i was wondering about that i thought my file was just too low quality or smth

youre doing gods work lol

[viscid aspen]

there is a bit of a faster way to get rid of the stray white outlines

set the skin layer to lock the transparency and color the stray white outlines black

its still gonna take a long time but it should be easier

[lost karma]

no, the white outlines i can get rid of easy

its these pixels that i can't really get rid of easy

those spots you see there are stray pixels. they're very transparent, but you can see them in-game if you look hard enough

[viscid aspen]

oh god

thats straight up painful

[lost karma]

right. i have no easy method to remove them all, without also risking the main sprites in the process, so im going through, and removing them manually

[viscid aspen]

checked it myself, oh no

[lost karma]

yup

[viscid aspen]

also some of these frames are straight up cursed

[lost karma]

I HAVE SEEN EVERYTHING

[viscid aspen]

oh and theres this... for some reason

[lost karma]

the hornet skin is not the only one to suffer from this

the very well made grimm knight skin ahs it too, the one with a redesign knight, and not a color change

[viscid aspen]

oh damn

[lost karma]

and sadly, this issue is not limited to just one file. basically any file that has changes to it also have these issues, like the hud.

[viscid aspen]

luckily im 99.9% sure my skins dont. i checked so many times to see if theres any stupid ass white outlines so yeah

[lost karma]

removing the white outlines is fairly simple

select the magic brush tool, set its tolerance to 0, and set the sampling style to image, and not layer. select empty space, and delete

[viscid aspen]

that does work, but it makes the edge of the image crispy

[lost karma]

yeah

[viscid aspen]

also yeah there appears to be stray shit

although the issue isnt really too bad here

[lost karma]

i noticed it more in his hud

specifically, the one where his health are masks, and not fire

[viscid aspen]

yeah

i think this is an issue with spritepacker

[lost karma]

i wouldn't know, as im not using that.

nor have i made my own skin. im not THAT talented

[viscid aspen]

oof

[lost karma]

my talents at best is cleaning up the rough edges around things, and recolors. although i am somewhat decent when it comes to tradiional pen and paper

[viscid aspen]

mmm look at this cool skin with no stray lines wonder who could have made it

[lost karma]

oooo

[viscid aspen]

honestly though im quite proud of it

its not the most unique or amazing skin but hey i spent a lot of effort oni t

[lost karma]

its nice.

[viscid aspen]

ty

[lost karma]

plus the simple cloak makes it easy for others to customize it for their liking

what tool do you use?

i use paint net

[viscid aspen]

i use clip studiopaint

im quite happy that cranky showcased my skins, it means a lot lol

[lost karma]

he did?

[viscid aspen]

ye

[lost karma]

nice

i do have to say, the sampling style, when set to image, is very useful, as it also notices the parts of the spites that are meant to eb flash

[nocturne sky]

Wait where do the stray lines come from?

[wintry pine]

theres some random lines that dont show up in game as well

[lost karma]

akivaq thinks the stray lines come from a issue in spritepacker

[wintry pine]

i think its just from how it compiles it like theres bits outside the area that actually shows up in game and those stay in the sheet

[lost karma]

yeah, but its low quality, looks like its smeared.
not to mention the sprites do have a sort of outline on them

[wintry pine]

the one thing spritepacker actually kinda messed up for me is idle hud frame

[lost karma]

like i said, it looks smeared, and as you said, they do show up in-game, so your character will have pieces of them looking smeared

[wintry pine]

what im saying is most of these bits dont show up

[lost karma]

they do. its hard to notice, but they do. or at least some do

[earnest plover]

Hi.. I am using the NG+ mod, already explored 6 zones, is the hability to pogo disabled forever? Or is there any way to get it? Thanks!

[olive pine]

Man, I found out about the HK modding scene recently and, dang, seeing that Redwing is busted and officially-unofficially dead was a bummer.

Time to install hollowpoint to cheer me up.

[deep cloak]

hey guys im new to modding and have a question: can i choose a specific opponent using mod? cause i hate walking all the way to the location each time im dead

[chilly mauve]

RIP

[random elk]

no clip out?

[late lodge]

if you disable invincibility you automatically get hit and get a hazard respawn

[random elk]

wdym choose specific oponent?

[chilly mauve]

me? I had isma's tear and .... sank somehow
I wonder what mod introduced that bug

[gilded sierra]

that can be a bug in base game actually

you can get it by doing the isma's tear damage early control and closing the tutorial so you gain control right as you enter the acid. The same can also be done with an inventory drop.

[chilly mauve]

Interesting! Thanks for the info

[covert verge]

Hello is there any way to download this skin ? or is it private ? because it is awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwaH8Z6Nd7Q

[random elk]

[covert verge]

oh sorry i'm so dumb :/

[mellow spruce]

Does anybody know what maxMP means in the game's save files?

[random elk]

the maximum amount of soul your main vessel (the big one) can store

[mellow spruce]

Does it have a limit? Like from 0-something?

Thanks btw

Oh

Lmao

I just tried modding, completely messed it up, and forgot to make a backup

I restored most of it

But I can't seem to get back the first extra soul container I had got

[random elk]

that's MPReserveMax

[mellow spruce]

Which value would I have to change for that?

MPReserve?

MPReserveMax ryt

To what tho

[random elk]

33 for 1

[gilded sierra]

33?

[mellow spruce]

Oh ok thanks so much

Thank you all so much, it worked

Finally

Phew

[mellow spruce]

I should have put this in #archived-modding-help lmao

[coral meadow]

@viscid aspen you're the one who made angel knight right? i noticed that my skin doesn't have sprint animations, did i delete anything by accident?

[vagrant orbit]

Did you delete sprint.png?

If you're not sure, then probably just redownload the skin to check :P

[dry snow]

is it true modinstaller detects pirated hk?

[hexed nimbus]

that question sounds suspicious

[nocturne sky]

Nah, it doesn't

That's the whole point

[dry snow]

because it would be kinda hard to tell apart a pirated version from a version legitimately obtained from gog

[nocturne sky]

Wait really

Why

[dry snow]

gog has no launcher

they simply send you a setup

[nocturne sky]

How do the files look like

[dry snow]

uhhh wait

need to switch to windows real quick

[gilded sierra]

modinstaller works for copies from gog

[late lodge]

it does

[dry snow]

here

[dry snow]

.

[dry snow]

then how tf does it detect pirated copies

[late lodge]

im not gonna tell here how it does it and what its weaknesses are, but it does

[dry snow]

this makes no sense

[gilded sierra]

find pirated copies, see what they are missing and what extra stuff they have compared to gog install, search for that

[hexed nimbus]

how to detect pirated copies:

1. find pirated copies
2. done

[nocturne sky]

Your brilliance astounds me, grenade

[hexed nimbus]

no problem

[maiden cove]

What's the mod people use to get all of the abilities and spells and stuff?

[weak plinth]

debug

[maiden cove]

and where can I get that

[weak plinth]

installer

[maiden cove]

You aren't fond of explaining things are you

what installer?

[weak plinth]

mod installer

[maiden cove]

alright

thank you

[weak plinth]

#archived-modding-help pins

[granite agate]

Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png

[weak plinth]

?pins

[sudden turtle]

Hm
Is it ok if I share a idea I had here or is that not aloud here? It’s a fun idea that I want to try to do that has to do with adding bosses

[late lodge]

yes

[weak plinth]

you can share whatever you want

[sudden turtle]

I wanted to add bosses in areas that felt it was lacking
Ones that add on the lore and provide a actual challenge that requires you to know what you are doing

I have 3 ideas and even more for dream fights but I don’t know if they are good

[maiden cove]

I'm trying to download spritepacker to make a custom skin and im confused as hell can someone help?

[late lodge]

it has a tutorial vid

[maiden cove]

I didn't see one can you DM me it

[late lodge]

_ _

[maiden cove]

slight problem with that tutorial

my things aren't set up the same way, I don't have a username folder

[late lodge]

just you username

the folder is called the name of the acount

[maiden cove]

yeah I dont have one

[late lodge]

you have to

if the user account is called 1 then the folder is caled 1

if the user is Ruttie then the folder is called Ruttie

[maiden cove]

I dont even have a windows folder or whatever

but either way I followed the tutorial anddd

there's nothing else this is it for the users folder

[weak plinth]

just type the whole thing into your address bar

%appdata%\..\locallow

[maiden cove]

for some reason I don't have a Team Cherry folder either

I have HK

actually I'm gonna try smth

[late lodge]

press win+r and paste what mickely said

[weak plinth]

and make sure hidden files option is checked in file explorer under the "View" tab

[dry snow]

Hello guys, sorry for the dumb question, this is my very first time trying to add a skin, and I really want this jojo skin. I read I have to do some kind of challenge thats linked din this channel, where can I read what to do and get this awesome skin? https://youtu.be/oW1nzb-UwAo

[weak plinth]

?pins

[granite agate]

Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png

[late lodge]

read the description of the vid

not even a pin needed

"you can find it here"

[maiden cove]

So now what with the team cherry folder

do I just put in the knight folder

[late lodge]

watch the vid

[maiden cove]

That's everything I see

[late lodge]

watch the vid

[maiden cove]

literally this is where she is

and I have no sprites folder

[late lodge]

then make one

[maiden cove]

I should have done that from the start

im dumb whatever

[dry snow]

If the skin is not in the Current Skin Challenges Running: that means that I can't get it?

[late lodge]

yep

unless

it has been made public and its in one of the 2 drives that are pinned

[somber adder]

hey do you guys know which mod lets me increase nail damage and such?

[weak plinth]

debug

[somber adder]

thanks

[fresh wasp]

I'm looking for (what I think) would be a pretty simple mod. Are there any modders who'd be interested in chatting briefly about it? I would probably be down to pay like 10-15 USD for this (the mod, not chatting lol)

[weak plinth]

you're more likely to get biters by putting details here

[fresh wasp]

Oh yea, I meant chatting here

Like it wouldn't have to be on a voice call or anything

Let me compile my thoughts, 1 sec.

[weak plinth]

a summary paragraph would be best. nobody can answer your initial question until more details are heard

[fresh wasp]

Yea, making that now 👍

1. For fireball skips, a mod that made the knight turn a certain color on facing a certain direction while airborne (in this case right, but it would be nice to have the ability to set which direction in a config file or debug option). The idea is you'd be able to see how much time you're spending drifting in the wrong direction as you attempt a turnaround fireball

2. For fireball skips, turning the knight a certain color when fireball is off CD. Basically, to show if you're wasting frames in between double fireballs.

3. Turning the knight a certain color when dash is off CD (for practicing timing dashes along ground for example)

4. Turning the knight a certain color when wall jumping after C dash collision is available (like for QGA)

The actual color the knight turns doesn't matter too much to me (though I'd prefer the option to set it to whatever I like but, failing that, something bright and bold that stands out against HK's background is fine)

In a perfect world, these would be things I could turn off/on in Debug Mode itself but I'm fine having to do it through manually editing a config file if that's easier for the modder.

I know next to nothing about modding this game, so I have no idea if these mods are as simple as they sound to me, or maybe even if equivalents already exist. More info is welcome!

And again, I'd be willing to pay ~10 USD for this.

[swift bison]

That seems like it would be pretty complicated

Detecting if 1. A skip is happening and 2. If it’s correct

[fresh wasp]

You wouldn't be detecting the skip

It would just be "Is HK facing a direction while airborne"

For 1. anyway

Perhaps I worded it poorly, but there's no need to actually detect that a skip is being practiced. It would just be checking simple conditions in the game state and applying a color change if the detection returns true; that being said, I don't know how simple/not it is for colors to be applied to the Knight in this way

[stone vale]

im not sure when dash/fireball comes off cd. if it's off cd as soon as the fireball/dash animation is done, you could make a custom skin so the knight is a weird color except when it's doing the dash/fireball animation. that's contingent on if it's off cd when the anim is done though

[fickle charm]

i think you could also just have it set for when it detects a dash input it changes your color for however long the cooldown is

that wouldnt be hard

same solution for number 2 would work i think

though i havent messed with modding for more than 24 hours so i still don't know what i do and don't have easy access to change

[fickle charm]

so someone with actual experience should probably fact check that

[deep cloak]

for example i want to practice fighting watcher knight alone and want to start the fight right away instead of doing all the platforming leading there

[vagrant orbit]

Why not go to Hall of Gods?

Or use Debug and make a Save State?

[fickle charm]

^those things

[fickle charm]

do you have the debug menu installed?

it would be sick if someone edited the debug menu to allow for multiple save states

[random elk]

It's there for 1221

Idk about cp

[olive pine]

I just realized that one of the major gameplay change mods (Blackmoth) is literally just perma-Sharp Shadow.

And the other two working ones are both "game but ranged".

[deep cloak]

im too scared of doing the god master dlc but guess i'll try

[deep cloak]

what does debug do?

[gilded sierra]

debug allows you to set your abilities, make save states to redo stuff, change damage, noclip/invincibility/infinite soul/health and some other stuff too

it's what speedrunners use to practice basically

[dry snow]

and to cheat sometimes

[versed remnant]

Just wait for Fyremoth

[slim topaz]

so
I have no programming skills in C#
(i think its the language that modding uses right)
but
someone rly should make like a no-shade mod
with that mod you wouldnt have to kill your corpse when you die
you just respawn with all ur geo and ur soul gauge

because i think a lot of ppl dont like that mechanic

just sayin

also
if making you respawn as if nothing happened is too hard just teleport your shade to where you respawn

[late lodge]

is already done

[fickle charm]

is it? i must have a different ver cuz mine only allows one save state

[late lodge]

lemme send it here

[fickle charm]

also i'd imagine it already exists, i think that's quite an easy fix

[slim topaz]

wait what

pls give it to me

i want it

[fickle charm]

"lemme send it here"

i think he gotchu already

[slim topaz]

oh yea

i didnt see it lol

[late lodge]

i cant find it will take a lil

[silver garden]

Isn't that Easy Mode mod?

I think it does other stuff as well

[late lodge]

yeah but there was a modified version with only shade removed

[slim topaz]

n i c e

thx bro

ill wait

[gilded sierra]

i might still have it on my pc actually

[late lodge]

ye you made it but i cant find it xD

[gilded sierra]

looks like i deleted it

[late lodge]

#archived-modding-development message

that took long

[slim topaz]

YAYYYYYY

thx

[late lodge]

i was only looking in #archived-modding-help and #modding-discussion lol

[slim topaz]

lol

hey do i just put that in my mods folder

[late lodge]

ye

[slim topaz]

k thx

again

[gilded sierra]

mfw i just cloned and remade it maybe i should add globalsettings while im here

[late lodge]

you just made everything apart from no shade respawn a comment

[gilded sierra]

yes

[slim topaz]

hey uhh is there a way to reload the mods folder ingame without restarting the game

[gilded sierra]

the hard part was remembering who made it to find it on github

lightning no

[slim topaz]

oof

ok

[fickle charm]

jamie do you have the version of debug with more than one savestate

[gilded sierra]

that's in #resources

only for 1221

& requires the version of modding api also in resources

[fickle charm]

the one that cerpin sent?

[gilded sierra]

yeah

[fickle charm]

thank you

i'll see if i can recreate the savestates on the current version of the game

[late lodge]

wait does debugmod for 1221 require a dependency?

[gilded sierra]

no

[fickle charm]

does it not work in current ver because the modding api changed?

[gilded sierra]

just that specific modding api, which separates 1221 settings from cp settings

it doesn't work because the game changed

[fickle charm]

fair enough

[gilded sierra]

honestly making cp have multiple savestates might just be a copy-paste the savestates class job

[fickle charm]

yeah i thought it might be

[maiden cove]

customknight mod idea:
pale king skin, and all of your spells and attacks are different sized buzz saws, sharp shadow? saw shadow. thorns of agony? saw of agony.

hatchlings? saws.
grimmchild? mini pale king that you guessed it, shoots saws.
weaverlings? tiny saws.

[steel moon]

Tbh, you can try to do the skin yourself, it's gonna take some time, but you will exactly get want you want in the end

[maiden cove]

I just might do that actually

[slim topaz]

yo that'd be cool as heck

hey guys is the multiplayer mod working currently?

just wanted to know

[maiden cove]

Because the Pale King has no animations for jumping and stuff would he just glide lmfao

[slim topaz]

h m m

XD idk

i have the pale king skin

i can dm it to u if u want

its a good base

@maiden cove

[maiden cove]

sure

[dry snow]

where do i get debug mod for 1221?

[late lodge]

#resources

[olive pine]

Wait, what's Fyremoth?

Guessing a fork of blackmoth/Redwing?

[late lodge]

A new mod

[swift bison]

Nah

Look on Rusty’s channel

[slim topaz]

oh sry i forgot XD lemme send it

[finite spear]

are there any good new game+ mods/ harder difficulty mods that last throughout the entire game?

besides the NG+ kings pass, the impossible any% style, or glass soul

[abstract tendon]

I saw a "Hell Mod" in the list which supposedly makes things real hard

Cannot vouch for 'good'

[finite spear]

yeah I tried it and it is just stat bloats/reductions

less damage, take more damage, less soul collection

no actual new stuff tho

[weak plinth]

chaos mod

darkness mod

[finite spear]

cause modded boss fights are cool but I wish there was a way to experience the whole game with some those types of challenges in it

[weak plinth]

not sure what you're asking for

[finite spear]

I was wondering if there was a mod or pack that made the game harder with stuff like more hard platforming areas and modded bosses, instead of just stat changes

[weak plinth]

but you don't want impossible any% type stuff

or modded bosses

so you want those, but you don't

i'm confused

so you're asking for.... a new game?

no. there is no brand new game mod

[finite spear]

I do want modded bosses and stuff, but not mods like hell mod where it is just a stat change

[weak plinth]

"and stuff"

you could use sanic mod i guess

there's not many difficulty levers to pull on

stats (various), moveset (modded bosses), and game speed (sanic mod) are kinda the only ones

besides meme things like darkness, chaos, etc

[finite spear]

I'll look into those

but don't the modded bosses only appear in godhome?

[weak plinth]

no

[finite spear]

oh

ok

[weak plinth]

otherwise you could always do a randomizer to freshen things up

enemy or item

[boreal pulsar]

How do mods get added to the modinstaller?

[gilded sierra]

you can submit a pr to the modinstaller repo that updates modlinks to include your mod

[minor tinsel]

sharing challenge skins

[eternal steeple]

Any skin that has custom animations for Shape of Unn is automatically a 10 skin to me

[dusty vortex]

Guess I'll have to do shape of unn for mine once I finish the normal sprites

[fickle charm]

shape of unn is too op plz nerf

[dry snow]

thorns can be here
saws

since lazycat's hollow knight twp private skin is very probably unavailable can i make my own (in june or something) based on that idea and credit him for the idea and storyline
it's gonna be different and i'm gonna add nails to all the sprites

[dry snow]

lmao i'm gonna do that but after i finish the main

also is there a way to change the cutscenes, prologue (elegy for hallownest) and ending credits? i know poorly translated mod can change the text parts

[empty saddle]

I have seen some mods where the text was changed but I am unsure of if a skin can could change them

[dry snow]

i think i'm gonna make a separate mod for that