It's a hidden folder, I forgot that
#modding-discussion
dry snow
I used to know how, but it was on my older, better computer. It broke so now I'm using my father's computer with windows 7
desert sandal
Check the view tab in file explorer
late lodge
press win+r
and paste %appdata%
and click run
you do have an appdata folder otherwise hollow knight wont work
dry snow
Here's where the problems start appearing. LocalLow folder also doesn't exist, apparently. Probably due to me not having the game
late lodge
not having the game??
dry snow
Scroll up
hexed nimbus
it's hidden by default
you have to check some sort of checkbox to make those visible
dry snow
3 people explain to a dumbfuck how computers work
late lodge
the left most option next to start
then there is "show hidden folders"
or files idk
desert sandal
Hidden items check box, inside of the view menu (sometimes you need a visual aide)
computers are confusing, and explains them over text is hard
dry snow
So yeah. where exactly is the hidden items check box
desert sandal
In the file explorer near the top is something that says view
Click on view, it should open a header window (names escape me), on the right is a empty check box that says "Hidden items" check the box
dry snow
Bruh. I just realized: when I opened appdata, it sent me directly to the roaming folder
desert sandal
oh
late lodge
amazing
desert sandal
Here, we cheese things
In LocalLow you're going to make a folder called "Team Cherry"
without the quotes, caps may matter
dry snow
done
desert sandal
In that make a folder called "Hollow Knight"
And in that a folder called "sprites"
dry snow
Can't I just copy the one that I downloaded
desert sandal
Yes
late lodge
just copy the one you downloaded yes
desert sandal
so long as when you open that folder it has all its little sub folders, and not a sub folder called sprites
I had to install the sub folders individually, it was being angry at the size of the main sprites folder
split silo
yo where is the link for the mod installer
dry snow
So, now I got the sprites. What do I do with SpritePacker
late lodge
the krita plugin?
late lodge
was "the SpritePacker" the krita plugin?
desert sandal
Sprite packer is it's own program
desert sandal
to my knowledge no
late lodge
great
late lodge
and there type ?i
when he doesnt do it
dry snow
Aight, so now, how do I replace a sprite
late lodge
you colour it
desert sandal
I would check the tutorial
dry snow
Oh right, the tutorial! brb
desert sandal
I haven't gotten that far myself, 6 hours of troubleshooting and all
split silo
can anyone post the link to the mod installer?
late lodge
go to <#462200562620825600>
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split silo
is there a folder with all the mods in?
silver garden
Yes, but they are all already on the mod installer
What are you looking for exactly?
dry snow
Has someone make a mod that turns every enemy into a primal aspid?
random elk
you can make one
dry snow
Lol
barren pebble
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who wants a Primal Aspid mod
runic mantle
Hi. Just noticed that there are no icons on the upper left screen for the skins that I've installed. Am I doing something wrong?
late lodge
late lodge
Hi. Just noticed that there are no icons on the upper left screen for the skins ...
icons are gone
lag issues
runic mantle
ohhh thanks man!
fleet raft
first time making a skin
its done hunt
oh my god no wait i caught another error. jesus.
hexed nimbus
i really want to be that guy, but did you know sprint.png also has sprites for the knight?
that are actively used
swift bison
š¤
atomic ledge
gotem
fleet raft
grenade can you send me sprint.png
fleet raft
nimble lichen
<:shermaOukey:807782277241110598>
What skin are you making
fleet raft
its just the a very slightly altered knight in a cute little raincoat lol
preview since im apparently not done
wtf why isnt this transparent
whatever
dry snow
I wanted to revert back to unmodded to complete The Fool skin challenge. How can I fix this?
dry snow
okay, I'll see about that.
late lodge
"please verify integrity of game files and relaunch this installer"
dont do the relaunch this installer part
dry snow
Okay. Thanks for the help, I haven't had this issue before as I never tried to revert back
late lodge
do you know how to verify integrity?
dry snow
I just realized I should have put this in #archived-modding-help my bad,
nope, I don't. The reason I asked for help is I don't know which folder is the proper install path
gilded sierra
steam > right click hollow knight > properties > local files > verify...
gog is similar but idk what the wording is š„“
dry snow
Thank you, I'll check that out
weak plinth
dry snow
I found it. Once again, thanks for the help! 
nimble lichen
This is pretty cute 
fleet raft
thank you!!
granite sundial
Is there a mod that shows where each item is on the map. Like, it shows where geo rocks are, or relics.
granite sundial
ok thanks! Yeah im using rando
fleet raft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb8_Qvtdco0
btw--does anyone know how this setup was achieved?
specifically looking @ the seeing each frame in an animation one by one, onionskinning, and having different features on different layers during animation, i've never used krita and i'd prefer a similar setup in firealpaca, clip studio paint, or medibang if possible, but am willing to learn krita.
(if anyone additionally has good info on using spritepacker, it would be appreciated, the only tutorials i can find are difficult to understand)
vagrant orbit
If you're using Krita, you need to use a special version of the .pngs, because Krita is weird about transparency and the devs refuse to fix it (||they literally only blame the OS, and say that it can't be fixed||).
You either need to download the Krita version of GoDump from the pins, or of you want I can DM you the sprites. You will need the Krita python script though, which again, is either in the pins directly, or in a message right next to the relevant pinned one.
I don't wanna ping mods about it, but out of curiosity, is it okay if I just post a .zip of the Krita version of the main pngs used for Custom Knight here?
(I assume it is, since all sprites are available between the Modding channels and art channels)
late lodge
it should be okay
swift bison
nah, thatād be advertising that ver of the sprites
fleet raft
ah, this seems complicated, i only understood like 50% of that lol
vagrant orbit
ah, this seems complicated, i only understood like 50% of that lol
- Check the pins. It's like the second one in this channel iirc.
- There are two important things to make Krita usable: a python script ) plugin; and a Krita-version of GoDump
The pinned message explains it
fleet raft
ah, so the python script is to make krita useable
vagrant orbit
Yeah. You need the plugin in order to import the sprites
vagrant orbit
If you don't have the Krita version of the sprites though,
Then you're going to have the black background
Which will result in a black box around the Knight in the game
vagrant orbit
I use Krita and my transparency was fine
Did you use the
Krita version of GoDump?
fleet raft
yeah, i accidentally saved my skin as a 24 bit png instead of transparent png and i had similar issues
vagrant orbit
Weird. The regular one definitely did the black background thing to me @_@
crude flame
where can I find the custom hp bar that is included with the hornet skin?
random elk
in the daughter of hallownest skin in google drive
extract it and go into the hollow_knight_Data folder and into the hpbar folder to get the pngs
crude flame
thx
dry snow
do you have any skin recommendations for custom knight I'm bored
atomic ledge
Graig knight
random elk
Pale King
dry snow
Graig Knight
swift bison
Red lines
hexed nimbus
somebody already tried but the physics are not made for upside down
stone vale
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1p4_-63E5wPUozBTTYKyBzcoH9QFvzXYV?usp=sha...
oh this is rad! big fan of how the dash makes the cloak look liquidy, if that makes sense
swift bison
I made one a long time ago. Iāll find it if you want
nocturne sky
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1p4_-63E5wPUozBTTYKyBzcoH9QFvzXYV?usp=sha...
Supercute!
pseudo hedge
Does anyone know of good intermediate mods that aren't too difficult? Want to east my way into modded maps/bosses
wicked berry
would Inferno King Grimm be along the lines of difficulty you'd be interested in?
atomic ledge
ikg
pseudo hedge
would Inferno King Grimm be along the lines of difficulty you'd be interested in...
Yes.... Yes it would
fleet raft
ty godfriend and egg!
wet cloud
@fleet raft
fleet raft
thanks italy!
wet cloud
š
late lodge
amazing
wintry wyvern
i was at 1 hour flat getting claw
and now i'm at 2:10
20mins of that easily was wk
and i can't get past the first one
teal kraken
best mods for someone new to modding?
hexed nimbus
test of teamwork
random elk
i mean they answered the question
silver garden
If you can't tell people about mods in #modding-discussion how are people supposed to know what mods exist?
random elk
By watching the github of modinstaller so when a new pr for a new mod comes you get emailed about it
atomic ledge
Damn if only there was a command for all the mods, i wish the moderators would add it
Then why bother
silver garden
Damn if only there was a command for all the mods, i wish the moderators would a...
Is that not advertising?
late lodge
By watching the github of modinstaller so when a new pr for a new mod comes you ...
amazing
atomic ledge
The why bother part was for someone else but they deleted the message btw, also damn ur right š
random elk
The why bother part was for someone else but they deleted the message btw, also ...
2nd time in 1 day nice
karmic umbra
I mean, in peoples' defense, there's nothing even in the pins that indicates there is a mods command 
there's not much reason to be so cynical about something that isn't readily apparent unless you actually know it exists.
hard adder
Hi, I had an idea for a mod, and was wondering how easy/difficult it would be to implement, or if its already been done. The mod would simulate specific splits in the any% NMG category. It would set the player at the start of a specific split, with a random quantity of soul, geo, and masks that the player might have. (Different for each split, depending on what the player would go into that split with). It will also give the player the abilities they would have at that point in a run. Then, it times the player through that split, ending once they reach the endpoint of the split. The player may also have to meet a threshold of geo, soul, and masks, in order to keep the run more accurate and prevent bad habits in runners. I plan to just do this for any% nmg first, but if it does well I might expand it in the future. Does this seem like a good project, or does it already exist and I'm a fool? (Also, I'm almost completely new to modding, so this is less of a right now thing and more of a future thing. If you know any good resources or things I need to learn, please let me know or DM me.). Please don't take my idea (assuming it is my idea and no one else did it)
God that's so much more text than I thought it would be.
swift bison
I donāt think anyone has done it before
Iād say each part separate would be about medium difficulty
You can find resources in #archived-modding-development pins
And the apidocs are very useful to beginners https://radiance.host/apidocs/
uneven nest
Im still hope to see new skins for hollow knight.
They will create others skin for the mod?
late lodge
you can make one
nimble lichen
Hi, I had an idea for a mod, and was wondering how easy/difficult it would be to...
might be better looking at this as :
player can set "start point" & "end point" and can set starting items. on reaching end it gives you the time you took and an option to warp back at start point.
also, look at the code for the debug mod as that basically has all these features as setting spawn point / warping to it and giving a players start abilities, it might be suitable as an extension to that mod.
uneven nest
Ok.
hard adder
Makes sense. Thanks for the help!
fast prairie
The custom knight mod is glorious, man
I donāt think Iāve used the default skin since I got it
Though, I did want the pale king skin, shame itās limited now š
random elk
there's another pale king skin
late lodge
theres another
fast prairie
there is?
random elk
fast prairie
I didnāt see it on the team white palace page, but I havenāt looked at any other drives
Oh damn
I appreciate it man, thank you
karmic umbra
fahefgadopfhaoidf The TransTrans alt skin for that, I love it. also VS having a little saw blade in it, this skin is too much
hard adder
I'm having issues installing the mod rn. Later, I might join a vc while I try and get it, so if you see me I might need help.
vagrant orbit
You're having issues installing debug?
(if so, head to #archived-modding-help , and post what steps you've tried so far)
hard adder
ok
karmic umbra
If I knew how to mod interactions, I would make a mod that lets you save Myla. Pls, just want friend bug to be happy
random elk
it would actually be pretty easy to make
swift bison
Just make it so myla never turns infected
karmic umbra
random elk
i was thinking infinite health but that would work too
swift bison
If you want to go farther, myla shows up in dirtmouth, but thatās effort
karmic umbra
Infinite health wouldn't be saving though, that'd just be unkillable husk
swift bison
Infinite health wouldn't be saving though, that'd just be unkillable husk <:zote...
Saves em from dying
karmic umbra
Yea but can just do that by not going to her while she's infected. Point being, if I want my dreams to be real I gotta make an effort to do it and I'm demotivated, maybe one day
strange kite
Hi All. Where do I find radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
random elk
?i think dyno can help with that
granite agateBOT
Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages. 
nimble lichen
Saves em from dying
if doing just enough had a face that would be you writing this message
indigo venture
this seems like where the customknight people hang out, so i'll ask this question again here:
does anyone know why this happens? i'm making a customknight skin, but when i finished all the frames of the run animation (it looks normal in spritepacker) there's a little flicker of the original knight. did spritepacker miss a frame?
gilded sierra
afaik the knight randomly goes back into the walking state for 1 frame on every loop of the run animation
indigo venture
oh, the walking in dirtmouth animation?
i guess i can fix that by just completing the walk animation
gilded sierra
yeah if you just finish everything then the flickering should disappear
fair sparrow
primal orbit
wintry pine
it uses one frame from another animation, slash one iirc
indigo venture
it uses one frame from another animation, slash one iirc
oh, huh. someone else said it was from the walk animation
dry snow
can we not get the pale king skin anymore?
wintry pine
oh, huh. someone else said it was from the walk animation
i know but try doing the frame that ends with -156 i think its that one
random elk
can we not get the pale king skin anymore?
You can't get the twp one but theres a better one you can get
#modding-discussion message
indigo venture
i know but try doing the frame that ends with -156 i think its that one
the slash one that ends in -156?
thereās a couple of those
wintry pine
yeah, there are several but you can do any one of them
wintry pine
if an image there ends with the same number it uses the same image basically
random elk
Trying to add custom knight
indigo venture
if an image there ends with the same number it uses the same image basically
š code
quick salmon
Ive been there
Im just gonna sleep for a while then come back to this
And see if discord helps
C you
indigo venture
i know but try doing the frame that ends with -156 i think its that one
worked perfectly, thank you!
tacit solstice
is commissioning mods a thing?
hexed nimbus
i've seen a few
vagrant orbit
I've certainly seen people mention that they are interested in commissioning mods around here a few times. I assume that all ends up happening more in DMs though. It also usually seems like the people who are more interested in taking commissions, are also the people who are busy with other projects lol
vestal oasis
anyone know how to use the bonfire mod?
tacit solstice
you are smart thank you for saying that
random elk
anyone know how to use the bonfire mod?
The readme would know
meager stag
Guys is there a way to play steelsoul mode without finishing the game? just bought the game on pc after completing it on switch but i want to try steelsoul
random elk
Download debug mod + benchwarp mod and rush to black egg and beat THK,
Or
Download a 112% save file and beat THK
fallen pilot
What are some good mods you guys suggest?
vagrant orbit
?mods
granite agateBOT
Mods
Google Drive with Mods - https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1lnjtSYMfRe1LyA_qSq2CoXKI6NRm_I-e
Installer - https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe
Mod Summaries - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cz5tcggpGofrBcM90XyTkMWjMelDHzugvQM6HpB13Ew
vagrant orbit
I would suggest looking through the summaries, tbh
What a person wants from the game is drastically different, person to person
fallen pilot
Alright
vagrant orbit
That aside, I'd say:
-
Randomizer 3 + randomapmod, and their dependencies. These alone essentially make the game limitlessly playable. Once you start to get familiar with playing rando, you can try out Bingo and playing with other people and such. It's very fun.
-
Test of Teamwork (ToT): This adds a new section of White Palace, that is more challenging than PoP, and adds new mechanics, while still feeling pretty vanilla.
-
Hollow Point or Lightbringer: these are game-changing mods, for if you want to play through the Hollownest that you know, while having a very different feel to the gameplay. They are both interesting, but the game no longer feels very "Hollow knight"y with them, imo
indigo venture
is there a custom knight for 1221?
i know there isn't a modinstaller for 1221, and the latest version of the mod fails to load
vagrant orbit
Technically yes, but IIRC there's very few skins for it, because it's different sprite sheets
indigo venture
Technically yes, but IIRC there's very few skins for it, because it's different ...
oh, that's interesting. nevermind then, if i can't use the ones i already have installed lol
thanks though!
dry snow
if anyone has the pale king skin can you please email it to me i have been trying to collect skins and would have participated in the challenge but i was too late
my email is jamalrandolph125@gmail.com
vagrant orbit
The pale king skin that includes the hud, is a private TWP skin, that's exclusively for members of TWP
If you want the skin, then work on your art skills, make an example skin, and request to become a member of TWP
dry snow
ok thank you
fast prairie
i'll just dm you the google drive for an alternative
wide vine
Is there any mod to change hollow knight OST?
late lodge
Search on github for customBGM
storm moat
How powerful mods can be? For example, can it change mechanica in game?
late lodge
Almost unlimited power
Its bot about how much a mod can do its about how much time and knowledge you're willing to put into it
thick wharf
Greetings guys! I'm here with a question about the "Enemy Randomizer" modification. Please tell me if it is possible to update the spawns of mobs in an existing save? Let's say I clicked "randomize enemies" in the game menu, start a new game, new random enemies appeared in the game world, but what if I want to randomize again? There are options? Because if I press randomization in the menu again, nothing will change, maybe there is a workaround?
thick wharf
@late lodge Hmm, right, I'll try now, thanks for the quick response
thick wharf
@late lodge Strange but didn't work. I also tried to restart the game after generating a new seed and run around the locations, but the opponents were left with the last seed 
Maybe you need something else?
versed remnant
How powerful mods can be? For example, can it change mechanica in game?
INFINITE POWER
late lodge
Hmm maybe once a save is started it stores the seed or smth
So that save will always have the same enemy's
thick wharf
It's a pity, it would be very cool to change opponents whenever you want, so that after each restart you can run through the locations with interest.
versed remnant
I remember Rusty doing a run that had different enemies everytime he reentered an area
random elk
Chaos mode?
thick wharf
nope
Room and Geo
@random elk wow! sounds great! is there any information on this?
That would be just great
random elk
<@!724954591602671628> wow! sounds great! is there any information on this?
Readme
thick wharf
yep
late lodge
I thought you meant it different lol
The same place with the seed is also the chaos mode
thick wharf
It is written that the chaos mode makes everything random in general, not only enemies, but everything in general, objects, animations, locations, and so on.
dusky narwhal
when it comes to hollow knight mods in general, antivirus' generally see them as a virus because they have to "burrow" into steam in order to use the mods. (My antivirus always kills off the mod installer whenever I download it or use it.) I don't know about nucleus in particular unfortunately, never have used it.
abstract tendon
I wonder how many people say their antivirus is triggered when it's really just chrome asking if you're sure you want to download the file. Nucleus is probably fine, it's a well-known and used program that is open source (implying open audit of code).
light wolf
well yes but
lemme try to remove antivirus
@abstract tendon i know , i tried dowloading it even aftee it asked
doesnt work
sullen flume
Can Debug Mod be used for a while the turned off without impacting gameplay once it's off?
viscid aspen
I wonder how many people say their antivirus is triggered when it's really just ...
lmao trust me that happened to me too and i have to disable the antivirus just to open something
vapid gull
Mod idea Enchanted nail
Basically lets u upgrade the nail farther using ALOT of geo after obtaining pure nail perhaps unlimited adding 4-5 damage each time you do
idk
random elk
Bonfire mod does that to an extent
brave crescent
Does item randomizer affect delicate flower?
It doesn't change hunters journal so I'd assume no
meager beacon
It would be epic if you found the flower in QG stag
Oh wait
It doesn't affect it
steel moon
It doesn't, the reward for the Flower Quest is Randomized though
meager beacon
Hey i have a tip for yall, idk if it is well known or not
You can kill elder baldurs in one desolate dive, this is useful in randomizer runs
steel moon
There are 9 different ways to kill them, but all this conv should go to #randomizer I think
viscid aspen
ANGEL KNIGHT IS FINISHED WOOO
i might update it in the future to include more sprites but ITS FINALLY DONE
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1hEARisKgdoburUz-rx0VRr4NSYunw0QT?usp=sharing
now time to rest
random elk
Let's goooo
vapid gull
It doesn't, the reward for the Flower Quest is Randomized though
imagine needing to complete it to get a dreamer
nocturne sky
ANGEL KNIGHT IS FINISHED WOOO
i might update it in the future to include more sp...
YEEEE
CONGRATSSSS
WOOO
plain isle
dunno if that's been made yet but consider: Path of Pain but with Revek
atomic ledge
U can use twitch mod for revek but idk
idle topaz
In the bonfire mod, are the stats floating or round numbers ?
sour vector
Hm, on the subject of fire related things, how would one begin adjusting redwing parameters
Or even toggle the hard mode
versed storm
im gonna make this into a customknight skin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB-rCU_1Trk&ab_channel=ArrowsLevel13
untold zealot
late lodge
kaangaming if you read this (which you prob wont):
#archived-modding-help message
it will get burried in modding-help
covert verge
hey guys i was wondering if a mod to revive nailsmith in our adventure would exist because i killed him without knowing i had another choice so i regret that
atomic ledge
might have to save edit
dusk lion
anyone got a clue why i can't use the custom knight mod? i'm trying it out for the first time and whenever i try to load one of the custom skins it just reloads the default vessel skin.
tough reef
gilded sierra
fast prairie
hey y'all, do you guys have any customknight skins that y'all recommend?
i have all of the ones in the TWP files, but not much beyond those
minor tinsel
akivaq just finished angel knight, just scroll up a bit
dusty vortex
angel knight is so cute
also uh, can somebody glance in #archived-modding-development, I had a question about getting started with spritepacker. gonna ask here in the future, wasn't sure which channel the custom knight people hung out in
red canyon
How would you edit bosses in the game?
stone vale
also uh, can somebody glance in <#327461802311155714>, I had a question about ge...
it might be that only having the knight folder + renaming it broke it? i know i have it working with the whole folder (including cutscene anims etc)
dusty vortex
Gonna give that a try, the whole thing is downloading slowly
desert sandal
it will work without all the folders, but you cannot rename anything
that's what broke it for me last time, an accidental space in a folder name
dusty vortex
renamed nothing except the overall folder called "sprites"
still won't open
confuse..
what am I messing up?
random elk
how long did you wait ingame?
random elk
it takes time to generate
dusty vortex
in game?
tryna open spritepacker
am I supposed to do something with the actual game
random elk
i got confused with something else
dusty vortex
o
that's ok
spritepacker won't open for me, want to make a custom knight
not sure if anything is supposed to be named different, but.. anybody that could help me would be much appreciated ;w;
seems like I'm hitting a bump with every step getting started gfknfgkgfk
versed remnant
WHY is the internal name for the oblobbles Mega Fat Bee?
desert sandal
not sure if anything is supposed to be named different, but.. anybody that could...
Make sure the sprites folder is names sprites with no spaces (that's what broke it for me), assuming you haven't moved folder contents around it should work, I may try reinstalling sprite packer and make it extract the zip to somewhere outside downloads
Sometimes things just need to be outside the downloads folder to work
random elk
WHY is the internal name for the oblobbles Mega Fat Bee?
I mean those are big and fat bees
So TC isn't wrong
late lodge
bees that shoot their poison towards you š
random elk
my favorite is zombie beam miner (1)
late lodge
they're probably using that beam to mine where would they use it for otherwise
but megajellyfish is also good
stone vale
i dont know if there are multiple team cherry folders, but is this one in %APPDATA% -> LocalLow?
edit: it probably is. this probably isnt the issue
someone else had a similar issue, moving the folder out and back in seemed to help them
red estuary
is the new multiplayer mod for public use, or is it private for fire and his team only?
dusty vortex
@stone vale It's in the correct place, I know that for sure. When I remove the folder, the app offers to open, but tells me that I need a "sprites" folder. When I put it back into "team cherry," then try to open the app, it show a loading symbol on my mouse for a split second then never opens.
I've checked task manager to be sure and it is just refusing to live.
What is it supposed to be called? The "sprites" folder?
red estuary
i remember i checked the ModInstaller recently and it wasn't there
vagrant orbit
is the new multiplayer mod for public use, or is it private for fire and his tea...
HKMP is public, it's just not currently on the Mod Installer. I think the dev is waiting on a release that he feels is very stable, and will be a main version for awhile.
Here's a link to the mod's GitHub: https://github.com/Extremelyd1/HKMP
And there's a link to a support server if you have Qs about it.
red estuary
HKMP is public, it's just not currently on the Mod Installer. I *think* the dev ...
thank you very much
dusty vortex
I figured it out, I'm dumb
I'd taken spritepacker out of its folder
and realized just now it probably needed that other file it was living with to actually run
there, back with your family. now it's working
stone vale
hkjdsf
i only just noticed that ur spritepacker was sitting on ur desktop and not in the folder
congrations for it working now! 
dusty vortex
@stone vale (or anyone that can help with this one), slowly figuring out krita- how should I save the file? I just figured out how to get it to animate and how to view it moving in the app
do I save each frame one by one?
and finally,, how do I view my new stuff in spritemaker
sprite packer*
stone vale
ive been saving each frame one by one (and making sure itās the appropriate name) ya. im not an experienced spriter (or a spriter at all lmao) so something something grain of salt
once u save ur new frames in the Hollow Knight -> sprites -> (...) they should replace the original frames in spritepacker
dusty vortex
so I should save each frame with the same name as shows up in sprite packer, right?
orwait
š¤
001.idle or the .png
stone vale
i can hop into a vc in a min if u want to screenshare? might be faster
dusty vortex
I wish I could screenshare
I tried with my tech savvy friend, but my computer won't even load a screenshare
D:
I have crappy spectrum internet
stone vale
alas......
dusty vortex
yea...
stone vale
i can still hop in vc to talk it out + screenshare mine? if ur internetās good enough for vc lol
dusty vortex
it isn't, ack
I can view google videos but I think that's the best my dumb internet will let me do
stone vale
001.idle or the .png
each of these are a frame. i usually open one up and paint over it, and save it as the same name, but you can do it differently as long as you save your new png in the folder 001 Idle
dusty vortex
oh so those names
so do I replace them in the original location I got it from?
just with that name?
cuz that's easy
dusty vortex
I need the egg
but this helps so so much
I appreciate all your help so much thankyou
wanna see what I'm thinking about doing?
stone vale
ya sure! :^)
stone vale
i was making egg knight but lost interest 70% thru
DEVIL KNIGHT !!!!
double horns babeyyy
dusty vortex
Nobody's done this yet, hopefully
And yesss
Gonna make the tail wiggly and cute too if I can figure that out
Cute tail wags
stone vale
glgl!
dusty vortex
My first idea was this but the wing annoyed me too much
Don't feel like covering the nail
plus making the cloak darker is easier than making it lighter, couldn't get a nice yellow
scarlet moss
maybe i should try getting spritepacker to work,,
dusty vortex
Dewit
stone vale
oh yeah i agree. there's probably an easy way to color the cloak that doesnt involve layer modes (there might?? be a file someone put up that lets u easily do that), but i had to mess around with divide layers to get that orange OTL
scarlet moss
i had the issue where i couldnt get it to boot up even when i had the sprites folder where it should be??
stone vale
was ur spritepacker.exe in the same folder as everything that was extracted?
scarlet moss
i dont think, let me check
stone vale
scarlet moss
mine isnt taken out
stone vale
worm. can u take a screenshot of that folder + the folder of ur sprites and the path?
stone vale
it might be? the Sprites folder having a capital S lol
ive heard that a stray space in the folder name can mess things up
scarlet moss
oh
dusty vortex
same the lower case sprites
stone vale
does ur sprites folder look like this? somewhat
stone vale
ive got no idea what that newtonsoftjson is hdjkfh
scarlet moss
should i delete the other ones??
stone vale
ill check if having funky folder names messes with spritepacker
bc my sprites folder doesnt have atlases or sprites or newtonsoft.json.dll hdfj
scarlet moss
yours seems to go immediately to the sprites
stone vale
renaming Knight to sprites made it so i couldnt preview any of the anims in the (previously named) Knight folder
that might be your problem?
scarlet moss
which folder?
stone vale
ill grab the link where i got my sprites from in case u dont have that
scarlet moss
im gonna try deleting the other folder
scarlet moss
its working!!
stone vale
scarlet moss
i had alot of knight concepts, also, whats the best application for this??
dusty vortex
krita was the recommended
cuz you can play the animation from right there in app
let me grab that vidya
stone vale
maybe i should grab krita just so i can do that
dusty vortex
do it
stone vale
tired of saving my dummy files and then looking at it in spritepacker
stone vale
tyty
stiff wolf
im gonna try deleting the other folder
i'm so confused, i have an atlases folder in mine and it works
spritepacker is a strange beast
dusty vortex
@stone vale ok so I finished the idle animation.. how do I get the sprite sheet to test it in game?
how do I get the sprite sheet with my updated sprite, rather
stone vale
select ur atlas (probably Knight in your case)
press check. this'll check if any frames that should be identical aren't (eg. a lot of the idle frames are used in other animations)
dusty vortex
check button?
dusty vortex
"please choose original atlas before check"
dusty vortex
alright I clicked it and then clicked check
it has an error or something, not sure if that worked or
stone vale
by clicking on 135-04-000.png or 001-03-000.png you can preview what those are
select the one you want to keep, and click replace
thatll replace every frame that should be identical with the one you picked
dusty vortex
o
stone vale
keep repeatedly check and replace until you get the prompt Good to go
dusty vortex
should I be on mine or the old one when I click replace
stone vale
you should be selecting yours
dusty vortex
so my new one should be visible?
stone vale
yes
stone vale
yeah hit that
dusty vortex
o
stone vale
that means it's successfully generated an atlas (which by default should appear in the highlighted folder
stone vale
i havent actually tried importing my own skin into the game, so ill give that a try now to make sure im doing it right lol
dusty vortex
the folder
stone vale
give me a sec
dusty vortex
I'm gonna try too
weak plinth
do i rename it to Knight to use in game
yes. formatting and names have to be the same as other skins
the mod looks for those file names specifically
dusty vortex
thankyu
stone vale
alright so what i did was copy Gen-Knight.png into another folder (name it whatever u want ur mod to be named) and i renamed Gen-Knight.png into Knight.png
dusty vortex
If this works, I'll send you the sheet so you can see the bean so far if you want
I did the same
stone vale
i moved this folder into C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods\CustomKnight
then it appears in game. smile
dusty vortex
I have a shortcut
stone vale
when the egg.....
stone vale
ngl seeing this actually-actually in game gives me a lot of motivation to finish a skin
hell yea!!
stone vale
ive got hw to do OTL OTL OTL
dusty vortex
give it a try, I'd love to know what you think
:D
only idle animation
but... :)
stone vale
i will take a look
dusty vortex
Yesss
stone vale
WAH TAIL ANIMATION....
dusty vortex
:D
glacial crow
why do you think that hollow knight kaizo levels cant be sophisticated as celestes or marios? is it because knight is too mobile or is it because game doesnt contain enough objects for more interesting level design or maybe the way camera works?
glacial crow
also hk's inputs suck <:sideax2uHappy:808912577505263646>
wdym by that
gilded sierra
they're framerate dependent and depending on your pc can get dropped all the time
buffers also vary for different combos of actions, and lots of buffers just got changed between patch 1221 and 1432 
but generally hk isn't precise enough really, even impossible any% runners lose loads of time just to the game being jank and deciding to give them wallcling storage for no reason
glacial crow
so you think there are people creative enough to build interesting parkours even though pogoing and wall clinging reset you dash and double jump?
barren wharf
HK MULTIPLAYER SERVER WENT DOWN
It did?
dusty vortex
Hwhat
rapid vault
Anyone can give me an infinite notches mod?
minor tinsel
?i can't, but the installer can
granite agateBOT
Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.
rapid vault
Anyone can give me an infinite notches mod?
rapid vault
thks
random ginkgo
I had no idea doing custom sprites was so time-consuming... I'm reminded of Mickely's advice 
stone vale
i think everyone who tries making them has that realization OTL OTL OTL
dusty vortex
question- I just finished the running sprite, but one frame reverts to the normal skin while he runs
I didn't mess up anything, which means that frame is part of a different animation too..?
but does anybody know which
wintry pine
last one in slash
dusty vortex
ThankYouSoMuch
lime harness
It did?
I meant, the discord server went down
i know it's peer to peer.
It went back up anyways
lime harness
felt suffering
late lodge
but is it ok?
lime harness
it ok
late lodge
ok nice
lime harness
anyways. just gonna look if .net 3.5 has powershell support
the only way through this is downloading the file, then unarchiving into a specific folder
i dont think it does
lime harness
welp
yea
while i can run shell commands using Process.Create
the problem is it would render it pretty much windows only
late lodge
hmm maybe make a seperate release for windows only
late lodge
prob better
lime harness
then i can run the shell commands just fine
late lodge
and just leave the bit more difficult part for mac
lime harness
i don't even know if mac has shell commands tbh
the problem isn't about the curl command (downloading the file)
the problem is about extracting the archive
and i'm using a hella old library
late lodge
ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.dll
lime harness
i'll just remove the files from modlink anyways
late lodge
that and some other files
late lodge
i'll just remove the files from modlink anyways
i did that already
lime harness
`ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.dll`
i think i tested that DLL and the ModLoader detected it as LIBRARY
not MOD or ADDON
late lodge
makes sense
lime harness
it's only able to handle .NET dll files anyways-
if it sees anything else that is not .NET 3.5 related it just commits die
late lodge
1.1.2beta only added the less instalation steps right?
late lodge
yeah cus the pr i made degrades it to 1.1.1beta
lime harness
ok 
late lodge
b/c in the zip file are also files that break the api :/
lime harness
yeah
lime harness
ok
oh and i said that i would check if .net 3.5 supports powershell
it doesn't
well makes sense
.net 3.5 is released in 2002
and powershell released in 2006
late lodge
yeah
dusty vortex
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431194245362352130/834472041973284964/Webp.net-gifmaker.gif
realizing that leaving onion skin on while exporting leaves it in the heckin image
hnn
but m'boy is gettin progress
silver garden
You could make it part of the skin
They get a green afterglow every now and then for some/no reason
vagrant orbit
@Cyrus Botito#3730 Did you make a .psd for sprint.png too, by any chance? I was going to make a bunch of cloaks for people to use with the new HKMP since it does skins now, but realized that my plan to just recolor knight.png might look weird if people are using sprint charms.
Ah, Discord mobile fails me again 
late lodge
Ping failed lol
late lodge
That,person doesnt exist
Youre pinging someone that doesnt exist
Try doing a reaction ping to this post #archived-modding-development message
hexed nimbus
Youre pinging someone that doesnt exist
does exist, just not on this discord server: @toxic elbow
vagrant orbit
Dang, I didn't realize that they left the server. Double womp womp.
I guess I'll need to figure out how the recolor layer properly works then, so that I can make one for sprint.png
calm prism
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431194245362352130/834472041973284964/W...
Demon knight? 
calm prism
it looks very well done mate
dusty vortex
I appreciate that
If you wanna check it out so far, let me know, I can grab a sheet
I havee uhh..
these so far (and only one frame of that hit crack appear)
so he runs and dashes mostly smoothly now
just need to get his turn... then him walkin.. then..
calm prism
OMG
dusty vortex
?
calm prism
it's too much work
calm prism
OH
dusty vortex
I'm not gonna rush it or nothin, just gonna do one at a time like a coloring book
get there eventually
calm prism
I like your dedication partner, I'm sure it will be amazing
dusty vortex
it'll be decent at the very least- thanks!
but ye if anybody wants to check out what I got so far just gimme an @ or somethn
I'm excited for it, tho.
he looks so sad
late lodge
They also talk about the mod there from what i've seen
discussion about hollow knight randomizer
calm prism
he looks so sad
I hadn't realized how sad he looks when he looks down : (
vagrant orbit
This is gonna be a very cute demon skin.
||And when it's finished, people can do Angels vs Demons in HKMP using Akivaq's recent skin ||
dusty vortex
what's different about it?
late lodge
That it has customknight support, tons more features and is more stable?
late lodge
Theres a link to the dc server in the readme
flat bluff
I'm trying to do a custom knight skin as well, but I'm a newbie at Krita and I really don't understand how I work around the sprite workflow. I tried to watch Bob Fred's video but I didn't understand nothing, not even in low velocity. Any tips would be welcome lol
stone vale
I'm trying to do a custom knight skin as well, but I'm a newbie at Krita and I r...
what have u tried so far?
flat bluff
I tried to mess around with the keyframes, but I really don't get how they work
Like, in their video they merge other sprites or something to animate or something, I really don't know
dusty vortex
I wish I could screen share and show you, I had an awful time figuring it out
stone vale
have u downloaded the in-game sprites? probably a given, but just checking
stone vale
if ur available to vc, i can screenshare what i do
dusty vortex
I can try to explain in screenshots, too?
flat bluff
I would appreciate in screenshots, I can't vc rn
dusty vortex
aight let me try
so to keep it straight, you're having trouble with the animating part?
flat bluff
Yes
dusty vortex
aight cool let meee..
can we see my mouse
hmm
crap we cant, well
first step- open
you'll find the animation you wanna do, click one, hit ctrl+A to select all
then open all of them
you'll have a buncha files along the top and that's what we want
vagrant orbit
||Fwiw, If you're on Win10, WindowsKey + Shift + S uses the screenshot tool, and you can click the lil' popup to draw on it (if you want to point out something in a shot)||
dusty vortex
second step- if you dont have them out already, animation and timeline windows can be found here
"dockers"
flat bluff
ok
dusty vortex
ye
docker might appear at the bottom like the weird dock it is and need to be pulled up to even see it
flat bluff
Go on
dusty vortex
opening a new one so I can show it well
gonna go on in one secco
sometimes having so many files makes them get hidden behind your dockers, but if you hit a file at the top and scroll your mouse around, that fixes it
thennnn nexttt...
what I do is find the file that will be my first from of animation and set up my layers there
flat bluff
Alright
dusty vortex
you can get the group layer from the arrow next to the + box
then you can add a layer to it by dragging it up slightly into the group
now you want to set up your key frames
right click your first box, then what I do is select "insert multiple keyframes" and input however many frames are in this animation
so if you have frame 0,1,2,3,4,5, you will put it as "5" keyframes
(even tho there's technically 6 including 0, we ignore that)
flat bluff
Oh I see Tbh I didn't even knew about the group layer thing
dusty vortex
I watched that video so many times and managed to spot it by chance
video is too fast
flat bluff
ye lol, so, after that
dusty vortex
so now your dude will only be on layer zero
or I mean frame 0
now we go to the next file on the right of the one we're on
so this is my next frame
you right click on the uh
I right click on the colored box and you want to hit copy layer
then after that, delete this file so you don't accidentally come back to it
and head back to your main work file
look at your timeline, have your mouse clicked or hovering in there
hit ctrl+v to paste
now you'll have this mess, and a new layer called background probably
right click on a frame of "background," and hit insert keyframe right
you'll see it become a blue box there
hold down alt, then grab the box and drag it down to the second frame of your bottom/knight layer
you can hold your mouse over the timeline and scroll to see the frames
basically rinse and repeat this until you have all your frames
you can add more or delete by right clicking
flat bluff
Thank you so much!. Damn this is tricky asf š„“, going to screenshot it and save it for later. Finally I'm going to make my skin at a decent pace 
dusty vortex
glad I could help!
It took me so long to figure this out from that dang video
oh and also before you go
to delete the "background" layers once they're empty/useless, just select that layer on the timeline, and hit shift+delete
only hitting delete will delete only the frame you have selected
flat bluff
Oh ok! Anyways still, thank you so much!
stiff wolf
@dusty vortex @flat bluff dunno if you've seen it but Italy's Krita plugin in the pins is exactly for making the process of setting up your file less tedious; you can open an animation all at once and it'll give you all the frames in a timeline with a blank layer for drawin
flat bluff
Oh, I'll check it out later, thanks!
random ginkgo
Was thinking of doing a "Void Knight"-like skin since there wasn't anything else other than the Knight.png in LichOne's, and I'm not sure if Onigiri from TWP is still available. So, for personal use, a complete Void Knight... though the name probably won't be that.
I'm still only half-done with the Dash...
Though, since I'm doing the sprites on Paint Tool SAI and it's only an almost purely-black skin, using the "Clipping Group" option makes it really easy
Seeing cancel's skin makes me feel unoriginal though 
calm prism
Seeing cancel's skin makes me feel unoriginal though <:feelsgrubman:585807535534...
don't feel bad the dash looks great 
Also very few venture to create their own version of the knight
vagrant orbit
I don't think it's been mentioned here anywhere that I've seen, but yesterday HKMP (The Multiplayer Mod that's being actively worked on) released an update that supports CustomKnight-style skins, which I know has been a major request of any of the Multiplayer mods for a long time lol
Currently it only supports knight.png and sprint.png, but it sounds like the full skins might be supported in a future update.
Link to the release page: https://github.com/Extremelyd1/HKMP/releases/tag/v0.5.0
gilded sierra
the dll
calm prism
oh thanks
gilded sierra
unless you want to look at the code then feel free to download the source code 
pale epoch
how do i get modinstaller again
silver garden
?i
granite agateBOT
Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.
pale epoch
thanks
silver garden
Check the pins of that doesn't work for you
pale epoch
it worked yipeee
calm prism
@gilded sierra I should put the dll in the mods folder right?
swift bison
Yes
calm prism
okey
random ginkgo
Finished Idle and Dash
Or should this be better put in modding development? I'm not sure since I'm new 
frigid hare
Idky, but I see that and imagine if you swapped Knight with Shade for all the sprites... my brain is freaking me out
random ginkgo
What do you mean? 
frigid hare
Like the character you play as would be Shade instead lol
random ginkgo
Ah, somewhat
frigid hare
I'm imagining how Shade would look as Knight... aaaaaaaaaaa
random ginkgo
That gives me a great idea, but I'm not sure if I can follow through with it
frigid hare
Plz... spare me. Seeing a floating dead Knight... PAIN
random ginkgo
Probably quite goofy 
frigid hare
The way I'm seeing him looks creepy. Blame my corrupted headpsace lol
random ginkgo
Now I'm onto Airborne
frigid hare
weeeeee
dusty vortex
I want the completed void baby
looks awesome
and the shade as the knight fdfgjbg
need some help with the uhhh
this, that thing that was pinned
downloaded both, now what do I do?
confused what I have to do to make it work with krita
where do I put these
stone vale
i put the modified GODump in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods
probably remove the (2) from your file's name
and select SpriteLoader.zip
(specifically choose the zip file. dont unzip it. wack)
dusty vortex
It isn't letting me remove the 2, it's saying I have the same file somewhere else
can't find it tho
stone vale
move it to the mods folder then rename?
dusty vortex
alright, gonna give that a try
alright I clicked import python plugin now
do I just find the godump or
stone vale
import python plugin -> select this folder (wherever you downloaded it to)
dusty vortex
stone vale
follow the instructions on there
dusty vortex
alrighty
stone vale
https://github.com/magegihk/HollowKnight.GODump
you'll probably want to read this so you can get your modified sprite files. modified godump uses same controls as the og godump linked above
dusty vortex
modified sprite files?
like, different from the ones I have already with my spritepacker?
stone vale
eg. original godump will give you these files:
modified godump gives you that additional json so krita will automatically combine these sprites into the anim in the pin in krita
dusty vortex
oh wow I see
hmm
where is the modified download
my computer's gonna take 5 hours to download all these sprites again fdkdnfd
stone vale
stone vale
thats the modified godump
stone vale
if you've placed it in ur mods folder, you should see it listed in the top left in hk
dusty vortex
in the game?
stone vale
on the main menu, when you pause
dusty vortex
I'll check
stone vale
where you usually see your mods listed in game
dusty vortex
it said godump up there
stone vale
that means you have it downloaded. you should be able to use the original godump's controls to get your modified sprites