sk-discussion

[coarse leaf]

even tho day 1 is still bad, it's def better than preorder

[opaque sigil]

Not in terms of available information about the game

[short wagon]

Because I can't play Dying Light 2 and er Elden ring right now

[opaque sigil]

And preordering a game after a release date is set isn't going to push that date up

[radiant wraith]

They even opened Elden Ring pre-orders before showing the gameplay

[trim estuary]

jesse what the frick are you talking about

[radiant wraith]

Did you run out of games on Steam?

[short wagon]

Desperate for silksong and unable to play The Dying Light 2 and Elden Ring while still in despair

[opaque sigil]

That's a weird choice, yeah. idk why fromsoft did that, but ig they can coast on name recognition

[trim estuary]

Just play Spore then lol

[radiant wraith]

I certainly have enough games I want to play that I haven't yet

[true vine]

inscryption

[coarse leaf]

Wait till GoW gets the glorious big yoshi mods

[stone current]

Yk there's some computing or estimation on game releases or pretty much everything and for now Silksong's date is unknown cuz they don't have budget limits rn compared to hollow knight which was limited; on the computing thing on when it releases it needs past info of what is the speed of making stuff and current budget, but since Silksong was bigger than anticipated and has higher budget, it might take a longer release date plus with not rlly accurate info than the past since things are on a bigger scale now-

exhales

[trim estuary]

what

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, pretty much

[radiant wraith]

I wouldn't play Spore again

[stone current]

I meant like estimation stuff on game releases would be inaccurate cuz u need past info-

[opaque sigil]

People often try to use HK but that's not really a good reference for the reasons you mentioned

[radiant wraith]

It's just one game they made

Sample size of one

[stone current]

Pretty much

[opaque sigil]

And many differing factors

[stone current]

Conclusion? No solid Silksong release :)

[trim estuary]

Yeah like they changed engines midway through HK’s development

[coarse leaf]

Also a human doesn't have the exact same working time/skills for literally 6 years or smth

[coarse leaf]

wait what which was the original

[radiant wraith]

Of course not, there'll be no solid release date until TC announces it

[opaque sigil]

Stencyl iirc

[stone current]

Whats iirc

[opaque sigil]

Or something with an s

[opaque sigil]

If I recall correctly

[coarse leaf]

solid 4 digit release year here guys

[true vine]

2202

[coarse leaf]

sorry my mouse is a little dumb it stops working randomly it didn't capture the whole thing

[true vine]

this is the correct release date

[radiant wraith]

Source?

[opaque sigil]

trust him bro

[coarse leaf]

uh planet earth

i don't think any hardware on other planets has this

[radiant wraith]

I trust only the red-named

[opaque sigil]

Silksong releases early 1 AS

[trim estuary]

I trust only the aqua names

[hushed iron]

I think that in February we will have some news, maybe the game will be released March

[coarse leaf]

AD 202

here do u trust me now

[trim estuary]

I think you’re wrong and that it releases in April

[coarse leaf]

Do you trust me

[trim estuary]

1/5th or, as I would normally put it, blueish red

[hushed iron]

Mmmm idk, no one know actually

[hushed iron]

No, not that date

Pliz

[radiant wraith]

I do only trust those who are red-named, but being red-named is not enough to be trusted. Just one of many requisites

[trim estuary]

What about TC?? Hmm??

[coarse leaf]

Guys the date will be leaked on the first milisecond of 1st january 2000 due to the computer malfunction

[trim estuary]

Trick question! They don’t!

[radiant wraith]

Silksong releases

[high hedge]

Silksong2K

[radiant wraith]

Silksong releases the day after the day before

[stone current]

Silksong releases in 2202 dont u guys still believe 🗿

[radiant wraith]

I never believed

[high hedge]

Silksong is like Neverland. It only exists if you believe in it

[radiant wraith]

My guess from first was early 2023

[coarse leaf]

like Narnia

Silksong releases once spamton gets kromer

[high hedge]

Silksong is inside my dresser

[coarse leaf]

Please give him kromer

[coarse leaf]

no, itll be 2022

He has held william hostage since 2 days

[mint valve]

good morning

[uncut citrus]

Eyy i knew it

[radiant wraith]

Pfft

[stone current]

I don't do guesses on when is Silksong instead I ask myself if I'm worthy to have Silksong

-inspired by that one yt comment

[uncut citrus]

you went to sleep while i arrived, now i go home in 1h and your back up

[stone current]

And I'm probably not

[uncut citrus]

i wish i would have been sleeping all this time

[radiant wraith]

Prove

[stone current]

Trust me

[radiant wraith]

Pink-name lies

[high hedge]

Once you’ve climbed the tallest mountain, sailed across the widest sea, and scaled the deepest ravine, only then will the release date be revealed to you.

[coarse leaf]

god told me

[uncut citrus]

what if i already did it?

[coarse leaf]

Ok

[radiant wraith]

Woah!

[uncut citrus]

Graigus told me

[high hedge]

Check your dms

[stone current]

[trim estuary]

Invasion of the Nitro Boosters

[uncut citrus]

...didnt recived anything?

[coarse leaf]

No fyre go back to booster channel

[high hedge]

You must not have been worthy

[stone current]

[coarse leaf]

Woe

[high hedge]

You also have to be pure of heart

[stone current]

So... they arent innocent? 👿

[high hedge]

Just how it is

[trim estuary]

Nor are you!

[high hedge]

The Buddha sat under the Bodhi tree for 1000 days before he knew the Silksong release date

Then he reached Nirvana

[stone current]

Exposed

[alpine zephyr]

Ello I’m back

[radiant wraith]

Soon they may be reaching the halfway point in development

[uncut citrus]

NVM I RECIEVED

a message from god

[high hedge]

You truly are a prophet. Glory be

[obsidian juniper]

Is there any news or Is chat still falling into despair?

[high hedge]

[uncut citrus]

i got news for my car's extended warranty with a wierd link, but other than that, no

[radiant wraith]

You will know when the red sign appears at #hk-announcements

Until then, no news, you can relax

[stone current]

Toot toot chugga chugga big red car, driving near and driving faaar

[haughty brook]

Also, if there were truly SS news the chat here would be absolute chaos.

[uncut citrus]

wait i just realized mod might need to write the link to make sure theres nothing wrong with it, for my defence this isnt a troll or anything its actually a message i had, exactly 1 month old actually

[stone current]

proceeds to type it for them /hj

[obsidian juniper]

Ok
I forgot that this server has an announcements chat

[radiant wraith]

Yeah, it's great!

[trim estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/918620800901349448/image0.png

[stone current]

In ur dreams

[trim estuary]

Now what?

[radiant wraith]

The kind people at #hk-announcements will be there to find out if there's news first and tell you about it

[stone current]

[radiant wraith]

So you don't need to be checking

[small goblet]

no don't do this don't make me imagine

[trim estuary]

You don’t need to imagine

[stone current]

U kept it 🗿

[radiant wraith]

(mark unread)

[small goblet]

oh...

[still wren]

ss ther yet?

[trim estuary]

you right

[stone current]

Dont be shy press the button

[still wren]

will ss be ther in feb?? waddoyou think

[radiant wraith]

no

[stone current]

No

[radiant wraith]

Official announcements are the only thing that matter

[uncut citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/930585110019964998/image0.gif

[uncut citrus]

||what i think||

[still wren]

why not feb

[formal karma]

No

[stone current]

It's jan. 20 rn...

[radiant wraith]

Because TC hasn't said it'd be Feb

[formal karma]

Nothing points to feb

[obsidian juniper]

Talking bout february we are 10 days away from the "release date" aka chat going apes.hit

[radiant wraith]

So why would I believe it would release this February in particular

[stiff owl]

There’s no evidence for February at all

[stone current]

If feb 1 is release day they would've announced it rn or soon with some small hints, news and stuff

[still wren]

they didnt say anything at all lol

[trim estuary]

I just realized there was no HK patch in December. This must mean they are focused on releasing Ss and the final HK update in February!

[true vine]

||nvidia leak||

[short wagon]

But February is a strong possibility

[radiant wraith]

exactly

[stiff owl]

I thought you’d pull that

[radiant wraith]

The didn't say anything, so why would I think it's this February? I myself don't think it's this year

[stiff owl]

But I pull the same card against you, when they changed it to June 30th

[opaque sigil]

There's no material evidence for February

[true vine]

||google||

[coarse leaf]

Google isn't an evidence at all

[formal karma]

Every month Is a strong possibility therefore no month is strong

[trim estuary]

yes that’s why it’s spoiled and crossed out

[stone current]

And there's no news coming out rn lmao

[short wagon]

February is the strongest

[radiant wraith]

It's a strong possibility if you really want to believe it is

[true vine]

clearly you haven't been around long enough to know me

[stiff owl]

I don’t see any reason at all for February

[short wagon]

Because nintendo will face HK five years ago

[opaque sigil]

Not really, not moreso than other months (aside from December, which is more unlikely)

[trim estuary]

what

[formal karma]

Feb has no strength behind it

[stone current]

Aight everyone bet believers or doubters of february

[short wagon]

Then there's the Nvidia leak

[trim estuary]

Was 2017 really 5 years ago?

[radiant wraith]

The leaks are useless

[stone current]

Yeah

[still wren]

itd have been 4 YEARS then

[short wagon]

Nintendo face to face

[coarse leaf]

I see
No

[trim estuary]

[radiant wraith]

That's not too long

[stone current]

^

[stiff owl]

I doubt it

[radiant wraith]

Games take time to make

[coarse leaf]

No mind to think

[trim estuary]

Wait does Elden Ring release the same day as HK’s anniversary?

[stiff owl]

No words from team cherry that it’s even close to done

[stone current]

No will to break

[radiant wraith]

And this is a game that is hand-drawn, has huge amounts of content, and is developed by 3 people

[formal karma]

If it's feb, it will be for none of the reasons discussed

[stiff owl]

Graig says it’s going well but he doesn’t know when it’ll be finished

[opaque sigil]

No way to say whether it will be in Feb. Definitely not substance to regard it as a surety

[stone current]

Each frame is manually drawn or adjusted

[radiant wraith]

And also probably tons of little details

[coarse leaf]

I don't give a shit about a will my mind is dead

[opaque sigil]

Feb is as likely as any other month, which is plausible, but not probable

[trim estuary]

Nvm it’s a day after (I think? Steam says 24th but google says 25th)

[radiant wraith]

I just mean that there's tons of effort put behind visuals

[hushed iron]

February is actually less plausible, that's because of the big release of this month

[radiant wraith]

I don't see how 4 years is too much time to develop that

[opaque sigil]

nah

Multiple games can release in one month

[formal karma]

Big releases don't figure into SS release

[opaque sigil]

Especially when those games are on different platforms

[still wren]

tc doesnt do marketing that much lmao

[formal karma]

Since... as a dev team, TC will release the game when it's done

[radiant wraith]

We don't know what they will do

[trim estuary]

I think there is a moderate chance of news on the 5th anniversary

[formal karma]

Gone are the days where you need to secure a massive release day profit to offset manufacturing costs

[still wren]

there better be news at least

[formal karma]

Not confirned

[opaque sigil]

eh

[trim estuary]

Or they’ll just continue to work on the game since there’s not much else to show

[opaque sigil]

TC hasn't really shown much regard for anniversaries

[still wren]

what the hell - i dont even want the game, i just want to know if i should be excited now or in 3 years wtf

[radiant wraith]

News on the new Salubra plushie or smth like that

[trim estuary]

True, but this is the 5th one

[opaque sigil]

and?

[trim estuary]

That would be the best news

[trim estuary]

Fives are important or something

[coarse leaf]

No fuck fives overrated numbers

[trim estuary]

15 and 87 are the best numbers tho

[split tide]

Best number is x

[still wren]

cap

[coarse leaf]

The only good number is 0

[opaque sigil]

Can be all the numbers

[trim estuary]

you are a bottle cap

[radiant wraith]

Silksong news on the i anniversary

[split tide]

Therefore best is somewhere in there

[stone current]

Zzzzz

[coarse leaf]

It represents my iq

[trim estuary]

Zᴢz

[stone current]

They're also slowly managing another game but idk

[short wagon]

Still, Silky Song will probably be released in February

[trim estuary]

Fearless Fox is just a lore document right now I think

[formal karma]

Nope

[coarse leaf]

Silky song

[trim estuary]

Sussy song

[opaque sigil]

There's no basis for asserting probability of a February release

[coarse leaf]

Yes

[stone current]

Yes

[still wren]

As long as there isn't NEWS at least, we can expect it at any moment lol.

[trim estuary]

What about asserting definitibility

[radiant wraith]

I'm so glad there's a #hk-lore regular here to deliver the logic

[stone current]

Lmao

[trim estuary]

oh yeah the blackwyrm is dryya how about that how do you feel

[opaque sigil]

I feel that Kirb has immunized me against blackwyrm jokes

[stone current]

Proof that Sans is Nes:

[coarse leaf]

Whenever someone tries to predict silksong release date, I get more will to make a document on the worst theory me and froggy made in this server months ago

[trim estuary]

SANS IS THE NINTENDO ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM?

[coarse leaf]

I still remember every single shit I and he said.

[trim estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[radiant wraith]

"If we use proper inference, from our assumptions and the axiom of completitude, and taking into account Wilhem's Razor, it is logical that Silksong will not be releasing this February" - #hk-lore regular, probably

[coarse leaf]

Are you sure

[trim estuary]

Yes

[coarse leaf]

It explains how the 3 brothers and Esmy are children of Ogrim and Isma

[unborn glen]

Is ss actually gonna release on Feb 1st? Cuz i kinda doubt it

[opaque sigil]

Probably not

[formal karma]

It's generally assumed to not be releasing

[trim estuary]

at all

[unborn glen]

The earth will end before it gets released

[formal karma]

By anyone with deductive capabilities; silksong will nor release along leaked lines

[coarse leaf]

William's razor?!?! How do you know about his razor huh?+!!

[true vine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/922996612756803645/there_is_no_news_transparent.gif

[stone current]

𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕜𝕤𝕠𝕟𝕘 𝕨𝕙𝕖𝕟? 𝕀𝕕𝕜, 𝕒𝕤𝕜 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕕𝕖𝕧𝕤 𝕚𝕘

[uncut citrus]

ok.

[opaque sigil]

At this point we've passed the two week buffer (which is itself a flawed assumption) so yeah, even some of the people who believed in Feb 1 are starting to backpedal to feb as a whole

[trim estuary]

Oᴏᴏᴏᴏᴏʜ ᴡɪɪʟʙᴏᴏᴏᴏ

[coarse leaf]

They changed the topic and asked me if I knew about the hit game Among Us

[radiant wraith]

Don't worry, it's just #hk-lore regular jibber-jabber nonsense stuff

[true vine]

reminder that this is william's profile

[stone current]

Lmao 💀

[uncut citrus]

i dont think you needed to remind me.

[coarse leaf]

His current condition after feb leak

[trim estuary]

yeah he’s supporting the communities art endeavors

[radiant wraith]

Hey Tissy!!!!!! any news on Silksong?!?!??!?!!!

[true vine]

he's resorted to drinking

[stone current]

Can you believe it guys? Silksong, just a week away. Silksong is in a week! Woohoo! I am so happy about this information. Silksong! Just a week away, oh wow. Can you believe it? Silksong! Just in a week! It got here so fast! Silksong! Just a week away!

[agile kelp]

He has an actual account?

[trim estuary]

So does Ari

[true vine]

yeah

his last message was a year ago but yeah

[radiant wraith]

He is also wide

[trim estuary]

He reacted with 😐 half a year ago

[coarse leaf]

No it's secretly graig spying on us from 76 different accounts

[true vine]

true

[agile kelp]

Honestly he seemed non existent on the internet at this point

[stone current]

Believers anyone?

[true vine]

what an amateur, leth is spying on us with thousands of accounts, all the ss regulars are leth alts

[stone current]

LMAO

[coarse leaf]

When will i become a leth alt

[stone current]

Are you guys confessing.....

[coarse leaf]

Does he take control after i chat here too much

[agile kelp]

We are one already you just don't know it

[coarse leaf]

Oh

Why are you saying "you"? It's "i" we're both leth

[true vine]

or they're pretending to not know

[uncut citrus]

ok but how should i name this?

[obtuse ravine]

what if he already has control over you

[agile kelp]

We

[true vine]

:ur_mom:

[stone current]

True Infection

[strange pawn]

Yes I am leth, do not tell anyone because it breaks the NDA, but silksong is releasing March 21 this year

[still wren]

if theres nothing in february at least then.... doo doo fart

[uncut citrus]

hummmm maybe not

[true vine]

ok

[uncut citrus]

ik but

[stone current]

Ur def an alt acc look at ur pfp 😨

[radiant wraith]

*To Team Cherry:
Report on the creatures known as "the community"

Yesterday I made a joke to "the community". Interestingly, the results of the experiment where unintelligible noises and words emanated at rapid speeds from the many mouths of the creature. I will try something entirely new tomorrow and document more fascinating results.

Leader of experimentation, Graig*

[coarse leaf]

Bro you ARE team cherry

[true vine]

finally, a real leak

[stone current]

Real leak :(

Still a doubter sadly

[still wren]

Doo Doo Fart if SS doesnt at least get news in feb

[viscid root]

Spiderman: No Silksong Home

[coarse leaf]

Spidervoid: Far from silksong

[raven minnow]

guys maybe they're monitoring our response to this post

[strange pawn]

Spiderhornet: Silksongnotcoming

[stone current]

HK Community: Far from Silksong

[radiant wraith]

Graig's task for today is to try poking us with a stick and see what happens

[coarse leaf]

Yeah graig's offline since 2 seconds i'm doing it now

[viscid root]

Nice one

[stone current]

Like that one fluke?

[radiant wraith]

Yes

[viscid root]

Spidershaw: No needle home

[radiant wraith]

We resemble the fluke

[stone current]

Dayum alr

[stone current]

Lmfao

[still wren]

for me it was Spiderman: No Cinema Open . and it still is :)))

[radiant wraith]

We are multiore beings like the fluke

We get poked, like the fluke

We are fluke

[agile kelp]

Whos flukemarm

[radiant wraith]

I never mentioned that name

[still wren]

oop

[stone current]

Yeah who

[true vine]

accurate

[trim estuary]

We remember the fluke

[stone current]

Damnnn

[radiant wraith]

I'm in this picture

[agile kelp]

The average ss waiter

[true vine]

don't worry there are more high definition fluke pictures I can post

[still wren]

new boss in ss !!! thats why it takes so long - look at these realistic graphics!

[stone current]

OMG REALLY ?!?!?!??

[strange pawn]

Silksong is HD 4K 5G lets gooo

[rapid topaz]

5G lol

[true vine]

there's a parasitic fluke that feeds on your liver while you're still alive because that's parasites for you!

[viscid root]

I believe silksong fans will get into a metamorphosis while they're waiting and will outgrow their need for silksong

[true vine]

our eyeballs

[strange pawn]

not silksong

[still wren]

Coughed in 4K HD Corona Pandemic-Panorama

[viscid root]

Oh there's worse

[agile kelp]

What about the worms inside it

[viscid root]

not a good assassins creed game

[still wren]

Oh no. Our Silksong. It's broken.

[radiant wraith]

There's no

[viscid root]

Silksong never existed

[agile kelp]

Those worms could be feeding on our sanity

[still wren]

thats why im insane

[viscid root]

Theory: Silksong is a game that will keep us waiting so that we will never know we're actually inside the matrix

[true vine]

I'm pretty sure it's this thing?

(seriously don't do it)

[viscid root]

That's actually silksong

[burnt topaz]

what

[still wren]

thats actually existence

[small goblet]

fuck why did i click on that

[viscid root]

No we got silksong at home

[mortal grove]

the hell

[agile kelp]

Now imagine that but its everywhere inside of you
That could be the average ss waiter

[viscid root]

W pfp

[still wren]

silksong at home be like= bug

[burnt topaz]

its a parasite that feasts on your liver

[true vine]

a real life fluke

[viscid root]

Silksong at home= Hungry Song

[still wren]

sounds tasty

[viscid root]

If you got that reference

[true vine]

deep frying it might be viable

[agile kelp]

Honestly it look like a tounge

[radiant wraith]

Eat.

[viscid root]

Why

[agile kelp]

Because yes

[radiant wraith]

Delicious.

[viscid root]

Deep down we're all Hungry Knights

[still wren]

Honger

[true vine]

how did a picture of a worm that eats your liver while you're still alive turn into a conversation about how hungry we all are

[open abyss]

Wonder. Will Silksong be optimized with Dual Sense contoller?

[still wren]

Honger 2

[viscid root]

wdym?

[radiant wraith]

Delicious be Eat.
Delicious.
Modus ponens.
Eat.

[carmine sapphire]

🤝

[agile kelp]

Grubs also taste nice

[open abyss]

wdym?

[still wren]

Honger 3

[agile kelp]

wdym?

[carmine sapphire]

the triggers an stuff

[viscid root]

What do you mean with a dual sense controller

[opaque sigil]

SS is created with controllers in mind, switch controllers are not fundamentally different in terms of layout

[still wren]

Honger 4

[agile kelp]

Honger 5 World War

[carmine sapphire]

dual sesne controler is the ps5 controler

[still wren]

Honger 5 Part One

[opaque sigil]

I know. Same layout

[open abyss]

Gamepad Dual Sense. New generation of Playstation gamepads. Will it work on PC version. Because original Hollow Knight don't support some major features like changing charms on the bench

[opaque sigil]

You could change charms at a bench with a controller

[open abyss]

With Dualshock yes

[viscid root]

I mean

[agile kelp]

Honger 6 the prequel to the sequel of the prequel of the part 6

[opaque sigil]

With any controller if you set it up right

[viscid root]

If you connect a controller to your pc i'm sure you could play with it

[still wren]

Stfu i havent even released Honger 5 Part Two yet

[true vine]

imagine using a controller?

[coarse leaf]

So long as you can wire it it should work fine

[carmine sapphire]

yeah, but dualsense has all those extra feeling stuff, like with the r2 trigger being more "realistic" when holding a gun and such

[still wren]

Honger 5 Part Two

[opaque sigil]

Haptics aren’t really that important

[carmine sapphire]

i know

[opaque sigil]

Idk why it would use them, unless for a ps5 port

[agile kelp]

But you haven't released the 6 prequels and 87 spin offs yet

[open abyss]

Well touchpad for strange reason doesn't seem to work on PC version with Dual Sense. On PS5 everything is fine.So I don't get it. And buttons in tutorials are like XBOX. Like WTF

[still wren]

There are none yet

[opaque sigil]

That’s just how pc games are in general, prompts assume Xbox

[still wren]

Honger 6

[agile kelp]

Final part?

[open abyss]

Well I wrote Team Cherry bug report about this issue. Hope they will read it

[opaque sigil]

It’s not a bug

[coarse leaf]

Its because xbox is much easier to connect most of the time

[open abyss]

With Dualshock it recognises it as a Dualshock

[opaque sigil]

And if a touchpad isn’t a thing in normal controllers then that isn’t a bug either

[still wren]

Honger 7

[opaque sigil]

Then you probably had something configured wrong

[coarse leaf]

Wish games used smth like outer wilds where u could manually change the prompts

[coarse leaf]

Honger trilogy registered

[open abyss]

Or maybe just there is no Dual Sense support yet.

[coarse leaf]

Ps controllers being used aren't uncommon and i just don't get why not have them

[still wren]

Honger 8

[coarse leaf]

Dualsense is already supported by windows

[opaque sigil]

If it can register inputs then it works

TC probably isn’t going to add new features retroactively every time a new controller is designed

[coarse leaf]

Dualsense isn't some uncommon one tho

[opaque sigil]

Still

If the game can function that’s enough.

[coarse leaf]

Why add any prompts at all then lmao, that's a shit belief

[open abyss]

Ok found this on forum. Hope will help 1: lauch steam in big picture mode (you can do that blick clicking veiw then big picture mode)

2: once ur in big picture mode go into settings in the top right

3: Go into controller settings and make sure both Playstation Configuration support and Generic Gamepad Configiration support are both ticked

4: From there you can just exit out of big picture mode and launch the game up normally and it should work

[opaque sigil]

It’s five years after release

[coarse leaf]

It's a problem with gaming in general

[still wren]

Honger 9

[coarse leaf]

Every controller has the same basic inputs the game requires, TC shouldnt need to add every new controller to the prompts list every time one is released with new features

And not like ps controllers were uncommon in 2018

[coarse leaf]

We don't need every one of them, a basic dualshock 4 layout is just fine
From what i've seen most controllers share very similar layouts

[opaque sigil]

.

[coarse leaf]

Besides, what you'll find is TC probably playtests with an xbox controller so that's what they feel is the appropriate standard

[still wren]

Honger Finale

[coarse leaf]

Wait dualshock's are recognised? Huh

[coarse leaf]

Honger epilogue cash-grab

[still wren]

im not a madman

[coarse leaf]

Honger side character spin off?

[still wren]

Honger is serious quality content i wont spin off lol

[open abyss]

Hurray

That guide helped

[opaque sigil]

So it was a configuration thing

[open abyss]

I am just glad and happy now that everything is working. No worries for Silksong. Hurray

[small goblet]

why are game journalists talking about 1st feb and not talking about 24th feb

[strange pawn]

Thats when elden ring releases

Even if it's the anniversary, TC really doesn't want to touch that day

[haughty brook]

Why are you sure about that?

[stone current]

Im back

[serene chasm]

I can't believe fromsoft stole that day from TC

[sage glade]

hi back

[serene chasm]

#boycottelderring

[small goblet]

can't believe fromsoft stole the day from jesus grist himself

[alpine zephyr]

Yo

[opaque sigil]

Because Feb 1 at least has the nonsense leak as pseudo-evidence

And they can always do 24th after the 1st has passed

[small goblet]

24th is from team cherry employee

[opaque sigil]

And that is certainly something they can use

Even though it's not real

[stone current]

Jesus Grist

[strange pawn]

Guys I was just talking to Team Cherry and they sent me this image

[small goblet]

24th february is dead

[wooden sorrel]

Team Cherry deleted feb 24??

[unreal venture]

I need a Nintendo direct

[opaque sigil]

So do I. Not for SS, though.

[coarse leaf]

Finally 24th feb's gonna meet the eradication of humanity

[stone current]

Feb 24 is Doom Day confirmed, dammit can't even turn 15 ☹

[unreal venture]

So do you guys think SS will release before or after elden ring

[blazing pecan]

After

[uncut citrus]

Yeah after

[strange pawn]

After 100%

[opaque sigil]

Before would mean in the next month, after would leave much more time. Seems pretty clear which is more likely

[blazing pecan]

Ohhhh Elden Ring

[unreal venture]

So if it’s after and not really following the leaks, when is the next most probably day? 😭

[opaque sigil]

None

[strange pawn]

March

[blazing pecan]

I doubt you could even imagine it

[upper sigil]

tbh it would be dumb to release ss at the same time at elden ring

[opaque sigil]

There are no days more reliable than others

[uncut citrus]

March is also my favorite day

[unreal venture]

What if they just don’t care about their competition

[upper sigil]

there would be less ppl playing ss

[opaque sigil]

ER is barely competition, isn't even on the same platforms, and the industry is big enough for multiple games to release around the same time. Plus even if people play er first so long as they play SS after it really doesn't matter

[unreal venture]

That’s also what I think ^^

[upper sigil]

depends i guess

[small goblet]

you know games tend to be released on months, and sometimes coincidences happen

[opaque sigil]

It's not like people have to choose to play one or the other and can't play both

[strange pawn]

Yeah but ER and Silksong Fandoms are a big overlap

[brittle garnet]

Not on the same platforms? It comes out on PC.

[opaque sigil]

And SS is on switch, and er on ps or whatever

[unreal venture]

I think they meant same genre maybe

[upbeat pulsar]

that sometimes is the case though, not everyone can afford both games

[unreal venture]

That’s true too

[opaque sigil]

Switch audience isn't going to care about er, ps/xbox isn't going to care about ss

[opaque sigil]

SS is much cheaper than ER, and they don't have to buy both at once

It's not like somebody is only ever going to have $60 to spend on games

[serene chasm]

Tammo. You know SS isn't coming to ps/Xbox at launch

[opaque sigil]

That's my point

[brittle garnet]

it will come later though, so it won't compete with ER

[opaque sigil]

That's why they aren't in direct competition in that regard

[unreal venture]

So…. Silksong for February?

[coarse leaf]

yes

[unreal venture]

One can only hope

[uncut citrus]

Or not

[opaque sigil]

Competition only exists for PC players, and even then people can buy both games. If you can afford $60 for ER, then at some point you will probably be able to fork over $15 for SS

[waxen loom]

Hopefully...

[coarse leaf]

Either way er has built up huge amounts of hype that SS will not match if it releases in feb. It will simply be drowned out, and believe it or not, TC likes to make money, so it probably will get delayed

[spare locust]

gnosklis

[uncut citrus]

How fast do you even type tammo what

[opaque sigil]

It won't be drowned out, read what I just said

[unreal venture]

If TC liked to make money, they wouldn’t have made hk 15$ and the dlcs free lol

[blazing pecan]

A lot of the people waiting for Elden Ring are also waiting for Silk Song

[opaque sigil]

They have different audiences, and the industry is big enough to accommodate multiple releases in general proximity

[serene chasm]

There is some competition with ER. Like arch said. There quite a large overlap of fans. At least on the pc side. You do have a point that people can buy two games, which is true but saying there is no competition (even if the Devs aren't competing) is disingenuous

[coarse leaf]

They released hk because they ran out of money

[opaque sigil]

Those people will play both games regardless of how close together they come out

[stone current]

😊

[coarse leaf]

TC just doesnt care about games releasing same month or anything period

[opaque sigil]

Delaying sales a bit isn't the same as losing them

Even if some people don't buy SS day one because of ER, they'll still buy it eventually

And some fandom overlap isn't the same as having the same audience

[small goblet]

more like tc just doesn't care

[blazing pecan]

I don't think Silksong is make or break for them like Hollow Knight was, so I don't know if they need to maximize sales if they don't want to

[opaque sigil]

Nobody who has been waiting for SS is going to completely ignore the game and never buy it just because ER came out around the same time

SS February release is very unlikely but ER doesn't factor into it

[coarse leaf]

But day one sales are what TC want, as would any company

[opaque sigil]

Day one or day 100, who cares

[serene chasm]

Friendship ended with silksong
Elder ring is my new best friend now

[coarse leaf]

Tammo, is SS ever likely to release any month any year for you ?

[opaque sigil]

HK had a slower launch, and it ended up doing just fine

[stone current]

Betrayal

[opaque sigil]

Not particularly moreso than others

[coarse leaf]

yeah but people weren't has hyped about hk than about ss

[serene chasm]

This seems like a silly argument seeing that it's not coming out in February anyways

[coarse leaf]

we dont f know

[opaque sigil]

All the more reason not to agonize over planning day one sales

[coarse leaf]

i saw an article about that and i was like WHAT DO YOU MEAN when they thought people wouldn't buy it as much

[coarse leaf]

Its not about doing fine, it's about making money. It's a company

[fiery coral]

be pretty strange if developers didn't care about initial sales I think

[coarse leaf]

initial sales sometimes dont matter more than long term sales

[opaque sigil]

It's a company with low expenses and a stated priority of accessibility instead of money, and long term sales don't care about er at all, which is where they made the bulk of their money

[coarse leaf]

ok lets for one second imagine it comes out on the 1st, how would we all react?

[opaque sigil]

wdym

[coarse leaf]

i cant imagine because the 1st is not realistic

[opaque sigil]

ig I would buy the game and play it

[spark pine]

i would play the game

[nimble radish]

:thatdwanyethejockronsonemoteyouknowtheone:

[coarse leaf]

you have no imagination

[coarse leaf]

Just because they want the game to be accessible that doesnt mean they're gonna just ignore earnings

[opaque sigil]

Not what I said

[fiery coral]

I mean yeah no dev says 'we want money' 🥴

[coarse leaf]

i meant emotionally

[serene chasm]

Initial sales are important. It's what gets the ball rolling and people talking about your game. If 10 people buy a game, it will be really hard to convince more and more people to buy it as well. No matter how good it is.

[fiery coral]

^

[opaque sigil]

ig surprised and a good deal concerned

[spark pine]

i would emotionally play the game

[coarse leaf]

lol that's good then

[fiery coral]

devs can't just not care about how their game does initially

[coarse leaf]

The slower a launch it has, the slower its gonna build up, the sooner it faces away

[opaque sigil]

I mean just look at HK. SS is basically guaranteed to at least exceed that in terms of initial attention, and that was more than successful

[coarse leaf]

yeah but it'll do amazing, ten people aren't going to buy silksogn just because ER is already out

[opaque sigil]

You're all way overstating how much ER will hurt TC

[spark pine]

swear to god silksong better not release just before exams for me

[coarse leaf]

there is too much hype about it

[opaque sigil]

SS is an indie, they were never going to be the media's big focus anyways

[coarse leaf]

personal i don't see whats so cool about elden ring

[stone current]

Wa

[spark pine]

woah

[fiery coral]

ER won't hurt TC at all because I don't think they'll release it in Feb or March anyway 🥴

[serene chasm]

Are we saying it will? I thought the argument was releasing SS around now would hurt it because of er

[opaque sigil]

SS isn't dependent on being the only title releasing during a given period to be successful

[spark pine]

agreed

[fiery coral]

personally I took ER as an example for "should TC worry about big titles' release windows when considering its own"

[opaque sigil]

It would, at most, be a slim decrease in day one sales that would eventually become pretty much unnoticeable, but it's probably not releasing in Feb anyways.

[opaque sigil]

Which is a reasonable discussion

And that's the only reason why I'm even disputing the point

[spark pine]

a large majority of people who are going to play silksong on release are already fans who are going to play the game no matter what really

[opaque sigil]

SS probably isn't releasing in Feb, so ER specifically probably won't matter anyways, but other big games exist

[fiery coral]

Which is not ideal for the developers of a sequel, I don't think

you want new people to play, not focus on the old fanbase

[opaque sigil]

It's fine for the developers, since that's in addition to newcomers, most of whom won't have heard of the game until its release

The people who have been watching the game all along are the fans, of course, but once it's released (if it's effectively marketed as an independent experience) newcomers will play it

And since newcomers continue to begin playing HK even after 5 years I don't think that TC needs a superlatively large newcomer audience at launch

[coarse leaf]

But the devs want new players to play, which they wont be doing if ER comes out and takes all their time and money. They're both souls-likes, their ideal customer base is very similsr

[spark pine]

but i feel as if most people who would be interested in silksong have likely already heard of and probably played hollow knight

[uncut citrus]

Eh i wouldn’t say « large majority » I think a lot of ppls s’il hear about silksong relatively fast

[obtuse ravine]

I think it may even help ss in some cases, because some people, who are actually looking for elden ring, could notice ss

[opaque sigil]

They're not souls-likes

[coarse leaf]

Except they are?

[opaque sigil]

SS is also cheaper and will not require exhaustive hardware, it's a much more ostensibly welcoming title to newcomers

[coarse leaf]

Souls likes arent defined by their hardware requirements, it's the gameplay and difficulty

[glass vigil]

Geez I wonder why lol, maybe being radio silent for so long might have something to do with it? But who are me mere mortals to complain

[opaque sigil]

Artstyle that remains effective even over time and a low price point do a lot to allow for new players to continue playing the game even after years

[opaque sigil]

It's the gameplay, which is entirely different. SS is a metroidvania, DS is an action rpg defined by its deliberate combat

[unreal venture]

At this point I just need some news, whatever they may be. Anything.

[silver oak]

DS is often described as a 3D metroidvania

[spark pine]

is getting a bit mental

[opaque sigil]

Difficulty doesn't determine genre

[nimble radish]

celeste is a soulslike

[unreal venture]

Celeste is not a soulslike?

[coarse leaf]

That's where the souls like label comes from?

[opaque sigil]

Well it's not, least not in the normal sense, since it pretty much disregards metroidvania progression

[opaque sigil]

From the style of gameplay. Games that play like dark souls. Not every hard game is a souls-like

[small goblet]

of course it's a flight simulator

[coarse leaf]

Geometry Dash is a souls like

[unreal venture]

Exactly

[nimble radish]

getting over it with bennet foddy is a soulslike

[silver oak]

In the sense that the world is interconnected and backtracking is a major part of the game

[opaque sigil]

People who call any hard game a soulslike are people who don't really know what the genre is and just think "hard = dark souls"

[small goblet]

"hollow knight is the dark souls of mario"

[silver oak]

I am the dark souls of #sk-discussion members

[opaque sigil]

But how you interact with the world is entirely different, and how backtracking is motivated and integrated into progression is different

You may as well call zelda games metroidvanias and soulslikes or whatever if backtracking is all that counts

I understand the comparison but the games remain so distinctive that to assert they have identical audiences is silly

Overlap maybe, but pretty much any two games will have some overlap

It's like Outer Wilds and HK

[trim estuary]

dn are the dark souls of

[opaque sigil]

Outer Wilds and HK have some audience overlap because they play with some similar ideas, but they are very much different genres of games and have different appeals

[unreal venture]

To me, a souls-like is: a knight, a dark palette, you die and lose some sort of progress and come back to your body to recover it. What else am I missing? hah

[spark pine]

there are no wheels in hollow knight i don’t think, i wonder if Silksong will have wheels? this would be cool

[opaque sigil]

If you render soulslike wholly subjective as a label then arguing based off of it is meaningless

[coarse leaf]

So very similar to HK and SS

[valid sable]

To me the thing that stops Hollow Knight from being a soulslike is how snappy it is. Attacks and movement are pretty much instant with not a lot to them. You look at Salt and Sanctuary, a 2D soulslike, and what's the difference: it has a lot of animation on attacks and rolls exactly like Dark Souls.

[spark pine]

wheels

[nimble radish]

there are wheels but they aren't used for vehicles

[unreal venture]

And dark souls

[opaque sigil]

Elevator mechanisms and caravans had wheels

[spark pine]

where

[nimble radish]

mechanisms

[spark pine]

gears mate

[opaque sigil]

That's a rather superficial similarity and leaves a ton of room for differing experiences

[nimble radish]

gears are toothed

[spark pine]

woah

[coarse leaf]

Then what's your take on a souls-like?

[uncut citrus]

I can’t remember where but I’ve heard the same joke, maybe with something different than « soulslike » but it was something difficult, and the joke went on to like «trying to make a sandwich at 2am while your toaster is broken and your out of clean knifes is a soulslike! » or smth

[opaque sigil]

Does it matter

[coarse leaf]

Well I think if you're pointing out others' opinions it's only fair to give your own

[spark pine]

i think silksong should go mental and have a cart with wheels

[nimble radish]

seems like releasing silksong is a soulslike

[spark pine]

aw naw, my cover is blown

[opaque sigil]

.

[unreal venture]

Have you guys ever played or know about Nier replicant?

Almost a souls-like. But it’s missing a knight

[opaque sigil]

Soulslike as a genre is nonsensical since it's basically just "how much do I think this game is like dark souls"

[coarse leaf]

Minecraft is a souls like due to deliberate combat

[opaque sigil]

You may think HK plays like dark souls. That does not make it objectively true, and the differences are pronounced enough that HK has a very strong independent identity

[opaque sigil]

And saying that minecraft combat renders it a soulslike isn't inherently wrong because the genre itself is nonsense

[unreal venture]

Soulslike could very well become a new type of genre or something

[opaque sigil]

It means different things to different people

[unreal venture]

Metroidvania is anyway

[opaque sigil]

There're no standard criteria for soulslikes, no consensus on what it means

Arguing that something qualifies as a soulslike when that has no real inherent meaning is not really a strong basis for anything, especially not audience overlap

ofc this is a problem with genres in general, not just soulslikes, but it's more pronounced in this instance

[coarse leaf]

Idk the community seems pretty united on this one

[opaque sigil]

It's a meaningless term

[spark pine]

well that’s a bit far i’d say

[opaque sigil]

Trying to attribute something like ER's negating/irreparably harming SS's sales to their both sharing such a vague descriptor is hardly reasonable

In the context of the conversation it is meaningless

Not all things that could be described as soulslikes would share an audience with the actual dark souls games

[unreal venture]

It might not hurt SS long-term but it’s all about what’s on people’s minds first

[spark pine]

i mean i agree in the sense that genre doesn’t have that much to do with da base, cause it’s also listed as a platformer there but that doesn’t mean that someone who loves mario would like hollow knight

fan*

[unreal venture]

An AAA souls-like game or an indie platformer?

[opaque sigil]

By that logic SS could never release in the same month as a AAA game

Indies necessarily take the back seat to AAAs, there's not really a good way around that

SS can't outsell ER but it doesn't have to

Between its dedicated audience, low price, and exclusive platform relative to ER it would do fine

[unreal venture]

Maybe it even does outsells it long term and we get surprised haha

[opaque sigil]

Wouldn't really be surprised

[unreal venture]

It seems like AAA games are just hype

Meanwhile we are all here still actively following a 4 year old game

[opaque sigil]

Graphics that don't get dated, low price (even lower on sales), generous regional pricing (probably), SS will definitely have the potential to sell more copies than ER over time

It would take a long time, sure, and it's not a guarantee, but SS doesn't need to outsell it anyways

[coarse leaf]

Imagine if TC pull the ultimate troll and price SS at 60$

[gusty spoke]

coming back after a while but someone finally debunked february first?

[unreal venture]

I’ve bought HK 4 times by now so idc tbh

[spark pine]

i’d still buy it 😛

[coarse leaf]

i would not

[strange pawn]

You have to remember it's not just any AAA game it's Dark Souls

[small goblet]

60 bucks will definitely be too much for a game like ss

[strange pawn]

I cant afford 60$

I dont have a job

[opaque sigil]

Eh value is subjective but I am kinda inclined to agree, even if I would probably pay $60, it would be overpriced

[valid sable]

I'll take $40 for Silksong, tops, lol

[hollow terrace]

I’ll take it free

[coarse leaf]

£25 would be my upper limit

[unreal venture]

It’s not dark souls, I was talking about elden ring

[hollow terrace]

Anything else is practically stealing from me

[opaque sigil]

Realistically a price increase of any magnitude is dubious, $20 is probably as high as it could possibly go

[strange pawn]

Isn't elden ring dark souls??

[hollow terrace]

Yeah

[valid sable]

No but for all intents and purposes of gameplay yes

[small goblet]

tc literally steal your money and give you fucking pixels and text files

[opaque sigil]

Same devs, not part of the franchise

[strange pawn]

Thats what they said about sekiro and bloodborne

[opaque sigil]

Because it was true of them too

[strange pawn]

Eh

[unreal venture]

I think they’ll make SS 25$

[opaque sigil]

Why?

[unreal venture]

Just a wild guess

[strange pawn]

Nah

[random fox]

Real england is far worse

[opaque sigil]

$25 would be a rather significant price increase (66% increase) on a price point that worked very well

[random fox]

I think 25 would be a fair price

[obtuse ravine]

I think it could be like 15/20$

[lost coyote]

am I living in bloodborne

[coarse leaf]

yes

[lost coyote]

[strange pawn]

20$ at most

[nimble radish]

brain gets filled with eyes blimey, that's pretty schewpid

[opaque sigil]

Just from a sales perspective increasing at all is kinda of questionable merit, but such a significant increase as $25 is pretty risky

[strange pawn]

Chewsday innit bruv

[random fox]

I imagine it will be 20 atleast

[opaque sigil]

Even that wouldn't really make all that much sense but they could

[lost coyote]

it is actually thursday id advise you to check your facts

[coarse leaf]

Thursdee innit bruv

[nimble radish]

you mean fursday

[unreal venture]

If it comes out anytime soon, and it does costs 20$, I’ll probably do a giveaway here just in case someone can’t afford it yet

[nimble radish]

thursdee doesn't sound like a british accent and you know it

[lost coyote]

it's coming out tomorrow

[coarse leaf]

"british accent"

[serene chasm]

Price again?

[coarse leaf]

there's like 50 bro

[random fox]

Bri'ish*

[nimble radish]

and none of them sound like that

[strange pawn]

"It is achsually fursday id advoice yuu check yer facts, bruv"

[lost coyote]

it sounds like one of the british accents we have a lot

[serene chasm]

OwO what's this

[lost coyote]

you drive for 10 minutes and the dialect has changed entirely

[coarse leaf]

she a bunda lengers fam she got bare back styll

[uncut citrus]

ikr i just went back and now...

[random fox]

U know, ppl make fun of english accent but.. scottish accent..

[strange pawn]

Dont be silly, British people don't drive.

[lost coyote]

I have no idea what this means

[coarse leaf]

are you even british

[lost coyote]

clearly not

[coarse leaf]

you catch the tube for 10 minutes and the dialect has changed entirely

[lost coyote]

the chewb

[random fox]

Choobe*

[nimble radish]

public transportation!

[random fox]

We didnt even say same thing smh

[coarse leaf]

go get on chewb off t'east Lunden, meet some right different blokes

pull up to the motive with tha mandem bruv

[random fox]

Pretty cool innit

[coarse leaf]

meet some propa bunda lengers

[lost coyote]

a lot of people do a london accent as a british accent and i dont know london slang that well

[uncut citrus]

sorry dude, but you dared question a snailing, agony shall rain upon you

[strange pawn]

The one thing (ignoring free Healthcare and gun safety laws) the brits have over america

[coarse leaf]

there's about 6 London accents

[random fox]

Got me this bag o crisps and a botu o wo uh for only 5 quid

[coarse leaf]

depends which borough your from

[uncut citrus]

translated to: lol you get even more snailed ||(ik your gonna snail this now ._.)||

[lost coyote]

americans be like boddle of warder

[nimble radish]

we also haven't got american accents

[coarse leaf]

a "baddle of waadar"

[random fox]

Better then bo uh o wo uh

[coarse leaf]

a bo'ol oh wo'ah

[lost coyote]

no bo uh o wo uh is vastly superior

[random fox]

Thats a rather schtewpid statement innit

[coarse leaf]

we have better drinking laws too

[lost coyote]

americans be like hey y'all im headin out to get me some potato chips and a baddle of waarder yee haw guns i am fat

[coarse leaf]

bit of a stewpid fing to say m8

[uncut citrus]

this seems like your having a stroke out of context

[random fox]

Tbh britain has everything better its just the clown accent

[opaque sigil]

Using ds to represent flaps is cursed ngl

[lost coyote]

we have like 600 accents

[random fox]

Just the 600 clown accents*

[coarse leaf]

"yall im bout to head out and and get some rootin tootin tater chips and a baddle of wader"

[random fox]

Yeehaw

[lost coyote]

at least we got free elfcare innit

[opaque sigil]

And cheaper schools

[coarse leaf]

Elf?

[nimble radish]

elfcare!

[uncut citrus]

i do care for elfs

[coarse leaf]

Damn another day of getting better at the accent

[nimble radish]

I cause them harm 😀

[lost coyote]

yes the british do not discriminate against elves

[strange pawn]

Brits: my favorite food to get every chewsday is chips from [British fast food place] and a burger. I also occasionally get crisps from the vending machine. Every night I have fish and beans for dinner.

[random fox]

Yea britain doesnt actualy have ppl living there its elfs.

[nimble radish]

nandos

[coarse leaf]

nah fam you're getting a nandos with the mandem

[silver oak]

stop elf discrimination worldwide

[lost coyote]

shut up the british ninjas are already on their way

[coarse leaf]

Elves are people you racist piece of shit

Actually wait you're monke

[random fox]

🦍

[coarse leaf]

Nvm no one's people for you

[uncut citrus]

Elvis is still considered a human stop egagering smh

[nimble radish]

it becomes much more apparent that it's an image when it's a ping message

[coarse leaf]

american accents r patronising

You are the only lord

[random fox]

Btw imagine colonising someone for their spices to end up eating shit like bread sauce and toast sandwich

[silver oak]

The only correct accent is mine
You're all wrong

[lost coyote]

whenever I hear an american person i feel like im in a movie

[opaque sigil]

imperialism moment

[uncut citrus]

oh i can see... then wait imma fix that

[coarse leaf]

whenever i hear an american person i want to die

[opaque sigil]

Fair

[brittle garnet]

fun fact the current british accent actually originated from america and current souther american accents are closest to what old british sounded like

[silver oak]

you hear them all the time on discord

[lost coyote]

toast sandwich is sick with baked beans and war rations wdym

[coarse leaf]

what is the current british accent

[random fox]

Then there are australians, but noone talks about them cuz they arent real

[uncut citrus]

whenever i hear a person i want to die.

[random fox]

War rations im ok with but beans on toast is dogshit

[opaque sigil]

🤝

[uncut citrus]

[coarse leaf]

there is no singular british accent

[brittle garnet]

🤝

[strange pawn]

Chewsday innit bruv nandos crisps fish and beans, bo uh wuh uh

[coarse leaf]

unfortunately

[uncut citrus]

i cant hear handshakes

[coarse leaf]

roadman

[brittle garnet]

i got a friend who has the most classic stereotypical 'MURICAN type of accent but he's actually australian

[coarse leaf]

if you're talking to a posh british person they'll pronounce their T's and shit

[lost coyote]

is nandos a british thing or is that in other countries I can never tell with most things

[random fox]

I feel like australian accent is 50% yeehaw american and 50% briish

[opaque sigil]

As opposed to a glottal thing?

[coarse leaf]

what

[lost coyote]

there are two types of brits, people that pronounce castle as carsle and people that pronounce castle as cassle

[coarse leaf]

cassle >>>

[lost coyote]

I am a cassle person

[random fox]

Glo'ul

[coarse leaf]

r u from the north

[lost coyote]

yorkshire

[floral jasper]

going batshit insane

[coarse leaf]

i'm so sorry to hear that

[random fox]

Bapshit

[opaque sigil]

bap

[floral jasper]

shut

[random fox]

Bapshut

[lost coyote]

ba'shi'

[opaque sigil]

[floral jasper]

bap shut

[nimble radish]

yorkshire is a government conspiracy

[random fox]

The uk isnt real

[coarse leaf]

facts

[lost coyote]

I wish

[random fox]

Neither is australia

[floral jasper]

fuck it earth isn't real

[random fox]

And u know what? Mexico isnt real too

[lost coyote]

australia sunk into the ocean a long time ago

[random fox]

No more tacos

[floral jasper]

the government distracting us with a global earth when it really isn't real at all

[lost coyote]

in superhero movies nowhere is real except america

[coarse leaf]

endgame had a few mins of asia

[random fox]

Asia is in america

[coarse leaf]

i see

[lost coyote]

well except spider man far from home that was entirely in europe

[serene chasm]

everything is america

[coarse leaf]

america is mid

[lost coyote]

america is B tier

[coarse leaf]

yea it's a solid B

[lost coyote]

perhaps C tier

[coarse leaf]

i'd say a solid low B

[strange pawn]

Europe, thats a neighborhood in Jersey, right?

[random fox]

America is B tier compared to every country and F tier for a first world country

[lost coyote]

yes thats what I meant thanks

[halcyon wedge]

india s tier

[coarse leaf]

eh

[random fox]

S for shit

[coarse leaf]

genuinely can't think of a worse first world country than america

[last ravine]

A really famous female singer with a huge fan base (I don't remember her name) released a new studio album some years ago without having said anything about it before. It was a kind of surprise. People woke up and were surprised. Imagine that's what happens with SS

[lost coyote]

nah all those north european countries are s tier

[halcyon wedge]

L

[coarse leaf]

other than France

[random fox]

Is china a first world country

[coarse leaf]

no

[lost coyote]

finland is s tier

[random fox]

Ok so yea america worst

[halcyon wedge]

f for failuire

[coarse leaf]

all Nordic countries r S tier

[strange pawn]

North Korea

[lost coyote]

uhh norway is s tier

[halcyon wedge]

W opinion

[viral pivot]

not first world country

[coarse leaf]

Ss chat turned into something i never expected

[coarse leaf]

ah yes my favourite first world country North Korea

[viral pivot]

XD

[small goblet]

um what tier is russia then if even us is fucking b

[random fox]

We shit on french ppl but french food is so bussin, respectfully

[lost coyote]

you never really hear much from the nordic countries and that's because they have their shit sorted

[random fox]

Russia is A, for alcoholism

[coarse leaf]

Russia isn't first world

[strange pawn]

Maybe North Ireland is worse than America, with all that Brexit stuff going on

[last ravine]

Well... Not really

[brittle garnet]

what classifies as first world anyway

[small goblet]

someone said us is b tier among other countries and f tier among ||us|| first world

[strange pawn]

They have food, money, water

[halcyon wedge]

mainly western countries

[coarse leaf]

ah

[lost coyote]

my guy boris j has been all over the news recently and it's great

[random fox]

True, prob some of the best places to live in

[random fox]

His new album slaps

[serene chasm]

sided with america during the cold war

[coarse leaf]

russia is D tier

[brittle garnet]

that seems like a pretty biased definition

[lost coyote]

D for Dputin

[coarse leaf]

it's the definition

[serene chasm]

3rd countries were on the USSR side, and 2nd world were basically everyone else

[viral pivot]

Wait seriously??

[strange pawn]

Fr

[brittle garnet]

lmao that's fucked

[strange pawn]

Nah y'all capping

[viral pivot]

I thought it was like a well developed system

[coarse leaf]

no

[lost coyote]

when the 4th world dropping

[serene chasm]

Or it might be the opposite. 2nd are USSR allys and 3rd is everyon else

[last ravine]

Scandinavian countries also have their shit and shortcomings

[brittle garnet]

that definition is kinda worthless then

[coarse leaf]

the 2nd world is the ones that sides with Russia

[brittle garnet]

what's the point of describing the countries like that

[coarse leaf]

the Third worlds definition is blurry

[lost coyote]

well yeah every country does, but the scandinavians have less than most others and are usually high on quality of life ratings

[small goblet]

what do you consider 2nd world countries then?

[stark estuary]

The 5th world is where it's at

[marsh pike]

Hmm yes my favorite SilkSong topic, real world country shiz

[coarse leaf]

generally i'd rather live in the US than most of them

[last ravine]

Yes, but what about their suicide rate? In Finland that's extremely high among the youth

[brittle garnet]

what about countries that were occupied by Russia and didn't have a choice

[strange pawn]

Your name.

[serene chasm]

Blue is First, Red Second, and Green Third

[coral glacier]

Red is sus

[strange pawn]

Japan is first world??

[viral pivot]

wait northern ireland is blue but republic of ireland is green?

[brittle garnet]

lmao Germany is split on this map
so which one is it now?

[small goblet]

russia invaded belarus ukraine kazakhstan and others? cool
||yeah ik it's ussr||

[viral pivot]

yeah ofc japan is first world

[last ravine]

Ireland green???

[nimble radish]

exactly how it should be 😌

[serene chasm]

Ireland was neutral

[coarse leaf]

i'd rather live in the US than Japan

[opaque sigil]

Isn't the first/second/third world labeling kinda arbitrary

[halcyon wedge]

which part of africa is a first world country

[serene chasm]

yes

[lost coyote]

me too but mainly because I don't speak japanese

[nimble radish]

that's the topic of discussion yeah

[brittle garnet]

despite the definition I think '3rd world country' nowadays is used to describe an undeveloped one

[lost coyote]

this channel got way too real

[strange pawn]

We need a new definition this one kinda crap

[opaque sigil]

Which is also pretty arbitrary

[lost coyote]

went from bri'ish jokes to this shit

[halcyon wedge]

nah US is kinda shit

[opaque sigil]

"Underdeveloped" is pretty nonspecific as far as criteria go

[viral pivot]

yeah, thats what i see one as

[coarse leaf]

better than Japan imo

[strange pawn]

US dogshit

[coarse leaf]

Japan is just ridiculously glamourised by western media

[lost coyote]

US probably isnt as bad as it's made out to be at least you have decent rights there

[viral pivot]

healthcare tho

[coarse leaf]

i've been a few times it just feels like england but slightly shitter

[last ravine]

I can't imagine living in a country where there is no social security/universal wealthcare/whatever you call it

[opaque sigil]

Eh depends on if you're white

[brittle garnet]

I don't think it's as bad as that

[lost coyote]

yeah I genuinely cant imagine going to a hospital then having to pay for that

[grizzled nimbus]

how is Austria and Switzerland third world, but somalia second

[opaque sigil]

It can be

[brittle garnet]

it can be like that mostly anywhere

[last ravine]

Same. Maybe it's because I'm Spanish

[opaque sigil]

Whether or not the problem is unique to the US does not change that it is a problem the US has

[serene chasm]

First/Second/Third dont mean rich or poor. Its just who sided with whom during the cold war

[viral pivot]

gotta pay for the ambulance

[lost coyote]

sorry i broke my leg heres $5000 uwu

[grizzled nimbus]

oh, we always learned that like third means underdeveloped or developing countries and first developed

[viral pivot]

its ridicously costly at times too from teh sounds of it

[opaque sigil]

Which is kinda arbitrary

[stark estuary]

You know what else is arbitrary

[opaque sigil]

Really this paradigm is just a vessel for ethnocentrism rather than anything meaningful imo

[lost coyote]

silksong

[coarse leaf]

Your name

[grizzled nimbus]

why are we talking about this in ss discusion btw

[lost coyote]

a vessel?

[stark estuary]

Because it's ss discussion

[formal karma]

Because ss always gets off topic

[serene chasm]

what else would we talk about?