sk-discussion

[fiery coral]

I don't think you can, unfortunately

[serene chasm]

Valve should really do an Orange Box 2

[fiery coral]

if I could get it on PS4 I absolutely would even though it'd be my fourth copy

[coarse leaf]

Also, I actually never got into the Playstation & Xbox consoles

[digital glen]

MatPat did not cover the biggest mistery of all gaming, when ss will come out

[coarse leaf]

He will, once he figures the HK lore

[digital glen]

he would say January 2nd

i love those clips of matpat's videos where he is explaining the second world war just to explain why kirby is pink

[serene chasm]

so is matpat like the mossbag of general gaming. Where people take his word for gospel even if he might be wrong

[digital glen]

hes our allfather

[opaque sigil]

I've literally never heard of a matpat theory that wasn't wrong

[shell yacht]

when your audience is free roaming 10 yr olds you dont need to be right

[opaque sigil]

Granted I haven't heard of many matpat theories but the bar seems pretty damn low

[tawdry valley]

No he was the dude who over analyzed stuff like the physics of a plasma gun and then became the guy who single handledly wrote fnaf lore for fnaf

[opaque sigil]

People overanalyzing the mechanics of sci fi stuff is funny.
Like, it's not going to make sense. We don't know how to make plasma guns. If we did it wouldn't be science fiction, we would just have plasma guns

[digital glen]

i think he started with the actual intent of making plausable theories, but something happened along the way, and he just started pumping theories of famous games to surf on the hype

[tawdry valley]

Correct

He made theories that were cool for the sake of entertainment a while ago

Now they’re clickbaity and nonsensical

[split tide]

sometimes sci-fi can incorporate correct math or science to be fair, but yeah it's usually just the equivalent of "fancy magic"

[serene chasm]

Gotta cater to your audience I guess

[tawdry valley]

Which sucks, cause he had a pretty strong viewership already

[opaque sigil]

It can but the tech is never really going to make sense

[split tide]

oh certainly, especially if it's highly futuristic like plasma machine guns or whatever

not to mention cases where it's flat-out wrong, like laser guns shooting lasers at the speed of a fast car

[opaque sigil]

just rationalize it as firing superheated projectiles, not actual lasers

But yeah a lot of science fiction is more fiction than science

[serene chasm]

[gaunt fox]

silksong

[digital glen]

this is why i love hk, no fictional bs, based purely on the science of bugs

know i understand people that are afraid of bugs

also, LEGO City Undercover

[tawdry valley]

HK solves the problem by making the explanations too vague to be questioned or rationalized

[serene chasm]

Yeah. When a spider comes at you with a needle yelling "SHAW!" you get scared

[trim estuary]

Wario is 10 ft tall

[serene chasm]

#hk-lore be like, that wont stop us from trying

[pale oasis]

silk

[silver oak]

hollow

[serene chasm]

quirrel

[digital glen]

soul

[iron spear]

Ok which one of you is Billy Bob Thorntons daughter

[silver oak]

I ain't no snitch

my lips are sealed

[serene chasm]

we have ways of making you talk Mr. Mancer

[trim estuary]

@pale oasis

[pliant torrent]

[serene chasm]

g'knight

[fiery coral]

E3 may be cancelled, apparently...?

don't know if this is old news at this point for the channel

[serene chasm]

I did hear that. At least rumours about it being cancelled are floating around

[fiery coral]

hm

news at Summer Game Fest then I guess? 🥴

[mint valve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMHYbWsRsk 1:13 we've reached a new high

[serene chasm]

I mean its not like the press conferences are going away, just the whole game show around them is

[fiery coral]

I know yeah, was just thinking of other major events

SGF last year had the first Elden Ring trailer after 2 years of silence so I guess it qualifies as major now...? not sure about the definition to be honest

reports seem to suggest that

but it's not been confirmed yet I don't think

[digital glen]

i heard that presencial E3 could be canceled, but video conference could still happen?

[serene chasm]

Yeah. I think SGF might take over e3

[mint valve]

whats SGF?

[fiery coral]

Summer Games Fest

[warm bone]

I like sgf more anyways (they showed elden ring)

[mint valve]

Hopefully SS doesn't release in summer. I have barely anything left to do. Death's gambit can only last me for so long. Mods tho

[still owl]

SS releases in April
worldwide grades plummet

[mint valve]

like grades in school?

[serene chasm]

no. grades of slopes

[digital glen]

Iam gonna have to open the tga wound again, but i got really dissapointed because not even the actual show was good, the indie world at least had cool games

[mint valve]

I haven't heard of summer game fest

[digital glen]

I usually watch tga, but these last two werent good

[trim estuary]

The return of the Aprilfoolists

[pale oasis]

why the fack u ping me

[mint valve]

send one

[trim estuary]

yes indeed

[digital glen]

he snitched you, and now iam snitching him

[trim estuary]

Graig needed you

[pale oasis]

silksong?

[trim estuary]

No he said

Ok which one of you is Billy Bob Thorntons daughter
and you are

[pale oasis]

but im a he

[trim estuary]

doesn’t matter

[serene chasm]

Has it ever been good? Its usually a bunch of commercials, with some celebrities giving out awards while Geoff talks about his man crush Kojima

[digital glen]

It always had that yes, but it seems to have gotten worse

[still owl]

Not wrong I suppose

[digital glen]

I remember having some fun with watching TGA, maybe i just got more bitter

[serene chasm]

welcome to getting old

[atomic sparrow]

what tga

[serene chasm]

The Game Awards

[random granite]

What silksong

[tawdry valley]

A famous myth on the internet

[serene chasm]

Well you see, when a Silk and a Song love eachother very much, they sometimes make something called a Silksong

[random granite]

That's hot

[serene chasm]

Its not. Ever see snails mate? Its like that

[digital glen]

I would say why dont parents tell the truth, but little junior would probably tell to the whole class what sex is the nexy day

[random granite]

Did I stutter?

[digital glen]

okay know its :face_with_raised_eyebrows :

[buoyant osprey]

dafuq

[serene chasm]

Whatever floats your boat I guess

[fiery coral]

[buoyant osprey]

wtf is that

[serene chasm]

Speaking of? Boats? In SS?

[serene chasm]

God

[fiery coral]

use boats to travel around Pharloom's coastline

[digital glen]

Okay what the hell, i never saw this emote

[fiery coral]

a new method of fast travel forget the slow bell beasts, embrace technology

[buoyant osprey]

its the most cursed thing ive seen in this server

[serene chasm]

I bet Lomm is a old ship captain

[fiery coral]

it's not an emote in this server 🥴

[digital glen]

Thank god

[random granite]

Make it one

[buoyant osprey]

tbh i feel like ss is 2023 at the earliest

[digital glen]

Lomm does have an captain vibe

[random granite]

Look Silksong is always coming out tomorrow, forever a day away

[serene chasm]

He better call Hornet Lass

[cunning geode]

"hey bitch"

[fiery coral]

I'd wager those dainty hands never weighed anchor in a storm, me lassie

[tawdry valley]

“Arachnid is our word”

That joke was edgy. I apologize in advance

[wispy stream]

ok that was a joke

[buoyant osprey]

whose dainty hands???

[serene chasm]

do you really really want to go hard?

[wispy stream]

oh sorry i saw it in the subreddit thought it was funny

[fiery coral]

just be careful what you joke about in a public server

[fiery coral]

Hornet's

[tawdry valley]

Was that directed at me

[fiery coral]

nah

[buoyant osprey]

[wispy stream]

i think me- apologies

[fiery coral]

moving on

[serene chasm]

never say sorry to the mods. they see it as a sign of weakness and will attack.

[wispy stream]

lmao

[mortal mango]

silk

[digital glen]

I blinked and missed, guess im lucky

[serene chasm]

dammit. Just ripped my shirt

[fiery coral]

captain Lomm should eventually let you fast travel if you repair enough of his ships by gathering I don't know 250 Timber, 75 Cloth, and 30 Iron or something

[mortal mango]

hey guys we can hope that ss releases on 1st right

[fiery coral]

if you repair all of 'em he lends you his best one with which you can conduct a naval assault on the Citadel

[digital glen]

did you liked that shirt?

[mortal mango]

1st February 3000

[serene chasm]

nah. it was old

[fiery coral]

ship combat in SS pls @ TC

[digital glen]

Then, rip and tear, until it is done

[serene chasm]

jokes aside. I do hope there are multiple ways of getting around pharloom. makes the world feel more real

[mortal mango]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-intro-doom-eternal-demon-gif-16987418

[fiery coral]

zipline from the top of the Citadel straight down to Deep Docks

[serene chasm]

Two words: Sea Shanties

[fiery coral]

WEY HEY AND UP SHE RISES

[mortal mango]

that would be cool

[digital glen]

fuck that demon in particular

[mortal mango]

I haven’t actually played de

so ss discussion is basically off topic 2 right

[digital glen]

de never heard someone call it that

[fiery coral]

3, counting #hk-general

[serene chasm]

Its the cool off topic where people actually have interesting conversations (sometimes)

[mortal mango]

i was gonna say something and then I forgot

oh yeah HAND is releasing in March

[serene chasm]

?

[mortal mango]

have a nice death

[serene chasm]

Ah. Looks like it will be fun

[digital glen]

It is coming out that soon? Cool

[cunning geode]

wait 'til you find out what the original archviles were like

[serene chasm]

early access I believe but yeah

[mortal mango]

well it’s early access but yeah

I have a lot of games to keep me busy while I wait for silksong and hand

[iron spear]

Ok guys hear me out. Imagine dark souls but

[mortal mango]

ds3 elden ring will probably release before ss and dead cells portal 2 cuphead and cuphead dlc

[buoyant osprey]

dark soul butts

[serene chasm]

hehe dark souls butt

[digital glen]

great idea

[cunning geode]

dark souls but in space

Super Mario Galaxy

[grim forge]

super soul galaxy

[opal geyser]

He’s hinting at SS release date. Theorists, GO

[cunning geode]

alternatively: ||among us||

[digital glen]

oh no

[opal geyser]

Maybe silksong was just an among us dlc all along

[mortal mango]

wait dark souls is like Elden ring and he said dark souls but so SILKSONG IS RELEASING ALONG WITH ELDEN RING????

[opal geyser]

Yooooo

[rugged herald]

what is ss

[digital glen]

Silksong is ER

[opal geyser]

Silksong

[rugged herald]

whats silksong?

[opal geyser]

Hilarious

[serene chasm]

Turns out the whole George RR Martin thing was a red herring. Fromsoft was working with Team Cherry the whole time. ER is SS!

[coral glacier]

When is graigs birthday

[opal geyser]

1 Terabyte large game

[coral glacier]

SS will release on Graig's birthday

[opal geyser]

Bold theory

[serene chasm]

Gonna be waiting a while

[rugged herald]

oh ok so it's like a game that takes place in the past of their first game?

[digital glen]

Silksong will release January 31th

[buoyant osprey]

feb 29

[cunning geode]

i smell bait

[opal geyser]

Sorry mate, I thought you were joking. Silksong is the sequel to Hollow Knight, following the character Hornet

[buoyant osprey]

can we not

[rugged herald]

it's alright, and rlly a sequel to a long and amazing game? holy shit

[serene chasm]

yeah. we need a sealed siblings psa

[opal geyser]

Indeed. Despite the fact we’ve been waiting 3 years

[cunning geode]

what would it be, sspsa?

[ocean axle]

So is ss tomorrow or what?

[serene chasm]

yes

[rugged herald]

ss is today

yesterday*

[serene chasm]

everyday is silksong. All is silksong

[rugged herald]

we praise the silksong. we are one with the silksong

[ocean axle]

I just wonder what size the game will be? Imagine it's like 5 gb or more

[rugged herald]

what size was hollow knight

[serene chasm]

7GB iirc

[digital glen]

Silksong is the enemies we made along the way

[fiery coral]

we are born of the Silksong

made men by the Silksong

undone by the Silksong

[cunning geode]

7.4 GB roughly

[rugged herald]

do u guys think ss will be a bigger game than hollow knight?

[cunning geode]

i think SS could have the potential to be bigger

[ocean axle]

Like 8 ish

[digital glen]

Fear the old Silksong?

[rugged herald]

ss will be 1 terabyte big

[serene chasm]

SS is going to be 250GB

[cunning geode]

not that big

[rugged herald]

infinite gameplay infinite story

[ocean axle]

I know they have been working on it for so much time but that just might not be true

[serene chasm]

move aside Warzone. There is a new player in town

[rugged herald]

i hope ss will be a bigger game

[ocean axle]

It might just only be well detailed with less glitches

[split tide]

Infinite worldgen

[rugged herald]

i dont expect it to be a lot longer than hk but it has potential

[ocean axle]

Well*

[pale oasis]

silksong

[serene chasm]

I cant see it being bigger then 10GB

[rugged herald]

hollow knight is $15, will ss cost more or about the same?

[rugged herald]

im imagining like 8-9 GB big

[tribal schooner]

Well hk was pretty long on its own but it was only really a good length because of the dreams no more ending. If the do something similar there may be many quests that change the length of the game

[serene chasm]

Most likely the same

[ocean axle]

If its worth more it gotta be larger than hk

[digital glen]

Maybe the entire Bee Movie in 4K will increase the game size

[ocean axle]

I know I will enjoy the quest part in ss

[pale oasis]

probably a little more but TC does say they want it to be available to a typical person

[digital glen]

Silksong Releases and its 70gb, but its because it has all Breaking Bad Seasons for lore reasons

[rugged herald]

even if ss was shorter, i bet it'd still be worth the wait

the movements and everything according to the trailers look smooth too

[serene chasm]

Its also gotten better since then

[pale oasis]

silksong is def bigger than HK

[rugged herald]

yeah

[ocean axle]

Yeah the new mechanics will be great but I just hope the bosses mechanics will be different too

[rugged herald]

i hope there's a lot of lore to it like hk had

[serene chasm]

Yeah. Im sure they will try to switch it up with a few bosses. The giant robot looks cool. They floors get destroyed so you have to watch out for that

[serene chasm]

Why do you think its taking so long?

[digital glen]

Oh yeah, i hope theres more dynamic boss fights to mix it up with the most standards but still good ones

[tribal schooner]

How should they be different?

[ocean axle]

I really think detailing the game and finding all the bugs and glitches takes a lot of time

[serene chasm]

multistage fights would be sweet too

[rugged herald]

bc it is at least 1000 hours of gameplay and they have to test for bugs and glitches and fix any before release?

[cunning geode]

it does take a lot of time

[ocean axle]

Their fighting style and weapons and movement should be different to have new experiment with the new bosses

[rugged herald]

hornet seems to be acrobatic when jumping off enemies and twirling around

[tribal schooner]

So more bosses like grim?

[rugged herald]

the string mechanic for hornet seems really cool actually

[serene chasm]

Grimm is pretty standard in boss design

[digital glen]

"Lethal, Acrobatic Action"

[rugged herald]

oh i didnt notice that lmao i skipped to the action

[tribal schooner]

But is movement is one of the most dynamic in the game.

[ocean axle]

I really think adding a boss that have similar movement and abilities just new looking will make the boss fight only good for the new players

[rugged herald]

i noticed it's on steam but hopefully i can pre-order it sometime

[serene chasm]

Unlikely

[digital glen]

I think hk hits the apex of boss quality in PV

[rugged herald]

maybe some bosses require only surviving for a long period of time instead of beating them by dealing dmg. like after a while the enemy gets tired or something so then it stops idk

[serene chasm]

PV is a great boss.

[tribal schooner]

I guess I just do t know what you mean. My fav part of HK is the bosses they may be simple in design but that’s why it works

[fiery coral]

while the nadir is AbsRad

[serene chasm]

I want more things like Mantis lords/SoB

[cunning geode]

is AbsRad more of a nadir than MMC?

[fiery coral]

MMC is just not much of a boss anyway

[cunning geode]

interesting

[fiery coral]

with AbsRad it's meant to be the apex and fails spectacularly

[tawdry valley]

MMC is cool tho. Nice theme and fun first time encounter

[rugged herald]

also cant wait to finally find a checkpoint at a town just to get killed by a giant enemy before i can rest and set a checkpoint lmao

[ocean axle]

I don't really care about the design it's the new mechanics and movements of this new boss for some of us they fought grim for hundreds of time and if they find a similar boss with only different design they will end him in 1 min

[serene chasm]

MMC is probably a lot more fun before we all got use to fighting them in the pantheons

[digital glen]

My friend died to mmc in steelsoul

[fiery coral]

MMC killed me a couple times on my first playthrough 🥴

[tawdry valley]

base radiance is fucking sick. The game spends the whole playthrough hinting at her existence and nature and slaps it in your face

[fiery coral]

Base Radiance is cool yeah

sun grows wings etc.

[tribal schooner]

What is SoB and MMC?

[fiery coral]

then absrad copies everything from her

[rugged herald]

also having to talk and piece the lore together like a puzzle seems rlly fun

[fiery coral]

Sisters of Battle, Massive Moss Charger

[tawdry valley]

I don’t see that as the real problem for the record

[digital glen]

Theres not a lot of bosses that require all abilities due to the games nature

[split tide]

MMC in the overworld is cool

[tawdry valley]

AR does a lot to iterate on AR, but not well enough in some cases and not properly in others.

[fiery coral]

on its own it's fine but given where she is, she should be way better overall methinks

[tawdry valley]

At minimum less scuffed

[tribal schooner]

Oh. I would like more SoB stuff but that’s like grim once you’ve played enough it’s straight forward

[tawdry valley]

At most, they could have done more interesting phase twists. Maybe an ascended arena type deal.

What’s debatably too much to ask imo is a boss other than AR that’s also at the apex

Not that I wouldn’t find fighting Godseekers impresssion of PK awesome or anything

[tribal schooner]

I wish abs rad wasn’t so hard and was instead just interesting. I rarely beat absrad

[fiery coral]

PK fight would be awesome

[fiery coral]

I find a heal build works great for her

Strength, QF, DF and Grubsong

heal twice for one soul charge

[serene chasm]

healing is a sign of weakness

[tribal schooner]

I should try that. My build is mostly in melee and some spells but I have to play almost perfect

[tawdry valley]

In regards to newer players, I don’t really recommend healing charms beyond deepfocus

[digital glen]

Thanks, gonna use that to finally defeat radabsrad

[warm bone]

imagine healing 🤮

just don't get hit

[fiery coral]

I've recommended it to a few players before and it's worked so yay

[rugged herald]

imagine losing health 🤢

wait nvm gaming beat me to it

[tawdry valley]

I can promise you it’s mostly the deepfocus that does the work

[fiery coral]

it does but QF makes the healing speed bearable

[rugged herald]

get gud and dodge everything then u dont have to worry about healing. got it

[tawdry valley]

In any case, I’d suggest using at best one over the other

[fiery coral]

you can also switch out Strength and Grubsong for Soul Eater if you like

[fiery coral]

can't imagine using DF alone for a boss of AR's speed

[serene chasm]

I just heal during her phase changes

[tawdry valley]

My first ar win was that

[fiery coral]

Ah

[digital glen]

I got ustrenght relatively early in the game and i feel like i cheated

[serene chasm]

It is cheating

you should feel bad.

[digital glen]

Awn, guess i gotta beat hk again then

[tawdry valley]

Okay consider this:

QF only:
Faster and more accessible healing, heal between attacks and especially on phase 4 consistently.

DF only:
Works only if you have issues getting past phase 4, as it ensures you heal up to full hp post phases 1-3 without losing all your soul. You get to learn how to spellblast AR without mastering phases 1-3.

DF+QF: half the cost of individual masks when healing. Heal speed is the same (so not any more or less accessible). Lose 7 notches

[serene chasm]

But do you mean breakable strength, or did you legit grind 15k geo for the unbreakable version early in game

[tawdry valley]

This is essentially my argument for viable AR healing strategies, and I think DF+QF is the weakest one

Obviously this is in the context of a newer player trying to learn/bypass the fight

And player needs vary greatly

[fiery coral]

DF/QF together would let you heal more frequently right?

[serene chasm]

Also, please TC. No straight perm damage boost tools in SS

[fiery coral]

or rather, create more intervals for that

since DF alone takes double the time

[tawdry valley]

Soul is not in short supply for the AR fight, at least in regards to healing to max hp

[fiery coral]

and you're not always going to have time in AR

[tawdry valley]

What’s an issue is being able to heal to max hp, and being able to spellcast the hardest phase away

[digital glen]

Unbreakable, i think i got it before going into QG and doing coliseum 3, i must have farmed a bit

[tawdry valley]

There’s a gap inbetween phases 3 and 4 that essentially shifts the fight rythym

[serene chasm]

Im impressed

[fiery coral]

Phase 3/4 gap is the only significant one though

[tawdry valley]

Exactly

And spells are the most applicable for phase 4, and healing also happens to be the hardest

[fiery coral]

DF/QF lets you heal twice the normal amount in intervals you wouldn't find with DF alone

[digital glen]

Blame my friends saying to get that as quick as possible

[tawdry valley]

The solution here is to make healing cheap so you can keep spells, or make healing easy to do during phase 4

[tribal schooner]

That’s what I’m doing.

[fiery coral]

ha, that's assuming phase 4 is the only one I have trouble with

[tawdry valley]

Making healing cheap, but also still redundant during phase 4 doesn’t work.

[fiery coral]

imagine not struggling with the entire fight

[tawdry valley]

Obviously that’s not the whole fight, but phase 4 is the largest barrier

[serene chasm]

I cant wait for these conversations but with crests and tools

[digital glen]

I never got pass phase 4 in radabsrad

[tawdry valley]

If you get banged up during phases 1-3, phase 4 annihilates you because you either don’t have soul to heal or can’t spellcast as frequently as you’d like

If you manage to beat phases 1-3 in about 1-2 hits damage taken, phase 4 AR even last long enough to double down on you

[ocean axle]

Ngl as soon as the game out imma head out of this server I won't let anyone spoil anything about the game

[tawdry valley]

I figured this out when I was consistently dying to phase 4 and 5 because I got there low on soul and hp, and then swapped in deepfocus

I swear on my life my first AR win was like 1-2 attempts after that

But that’s probably not viable in the pantheon 🥴

[fiery coral]

it is

[digital glen]

Mods, please close the server for 3 weeks after ss comes out

[fiery coral]

healing build works just fine in P5

wouldn't have beaten it otherwise

[tawdry valley]

Deepfocus for the last leg of P5…?

[fiery coral]

yep!

well, QF/DF

[tawdry valley]

Man this is why I didn’t want to use my own personal experiences

[fiery coral]

.

[fiery coral]

Why?

[tawdry valley]

We all have unique experiences, but using them in an (analytical) argument is our own likely flawed interpretation of a set of factors

Imo, AR and most fights are number games. You either have enough resources or not, charms make more resources available or the things needed to gain/spend them cheaper/easier

[digital glen]

The only change i did for absrad, was putting uheart instead of dwielder and nailmasters.
My build for ps5 was ustrenght, quickfocus, shaman, dwielder and nailmaster

[tawdry valley]

In the case of AR, she tries shred you phases 1-4, and 4 is the hardest one because it’s phases 1-3 but “no floor” and it comes right after

[serene chasm]

I dont think there is anything wrong with bringing in your experiences when talking strats. Sure, just because your strat doesnt work for everyone, some aspects might, or you might learn something from how someone else plays

[tawdry valley]

Healing back 3 hits of damage from phases 1-3 alone costs your entire soul bank

[tawdry valley]

If your experiences can’t be deconstructed and reasoned, it’s turning an analytical argument subjective

“I like QF because it saved me during the eternal ordeal”
Okay yeah, but why and how, what’s the application

Using it to support an argument is different than using it inside of an argument is my point. And I feel like I made a mistake and bled into the former

[serene chasm]

Yeah. Sometimes its hard to explain exactly why a certain build works for you. As long as people dont judge others on how they play, its all good

[buoyant osprey]

i go full summon build

[serene chasm]

Never was a summoner player. Im pretty boring with Strength, Shaman, QuickSlash, and MoP

[buoyant osprey]

lol

[digital glen]

Same

[split tide]

That’s like super standard

[serene chasm]

I know. Im vanilla af

[split tide]

I’d be more surprised if anyone deviates from that tbh

[digital glen]

Actually, whats MoP

[serene chasm]

Mark of Pride

[fiery coral]

Mark of Pride

[split tide]

And I do think it’s pretty much the most efficient build

[serene chasm]

I really hope SS kinda forces you to switch up your tool loadouts

[coarse leaf]

People overcharm that?

[tawdry valley]

Anyways, tldr of my points:

-Soul as a resource is extremely valuable to a new player for healing as well as managing phase 4 with breathing room.

Making healing doable for a new player is best done by QF, making healing less expensive is best done by DF, you sacrifice a few things on either but the potential gain is temporary line of sight for surviving and learning the fight.

In my opinion, DF+QF is 7 notches of a decent effect that is unfortunately a compromise. You make healing cheap, but you also don’t make it any faster than just healing normally, so it’s literally just a “better heal” at the cost of losing Shaman, QS, Strength, and the potential versatility of QF (sunk into DFs poor synergy)

[fiery coral]

not necessarily flawed, I think, so much 'oh this can also be seen this way'

[split tide]

Well moreso just some combination of those charms

[fiery coral]

shows a new perspective, more than being something to criticise oneself for, methinks

[tawdry valley]

Seeing a game as a set of systems is not something I like to do when playing the game, but is necessary for discussing its systems from an ergonomic point of view

[digital glen]

Instead of MoP i used NG and Dwielder, i was surprised to see not a lot of people are into narts

[serene chasm]

technically it would be overcharmed. I have an older account where QS is only 2 notches instead of 3

[coarse leaf]

Descends of cringe

[split tide]

Nail arts are good but kind of outclassed by quickslash + strength for raw DPS

[fiery coral]

Ah now see, I don't have a problem with losing Shaman or QS because extra, say, spell damage means nothing to me if I don't survive long enough to take advantage of it

[tawdry valley]

But it’s phase 4

[fiery coral]

Oh particularly for Phase 4, hm

[digital glen]

Narts are good for its safety

[tawdry valley]

That’s literally the only scenario in game where “kill the boss before it kills you” is literally actually not a stupid plan

[buoyant osprey]

isnt that the point of every boss fight ever

[tawdry valley]

No shit, but the comment is in respect to aggression

[buoyant osprey]

oh

[tawdry valley]

“I don’t care you have a large sword, mine is bigger and shiny, die”

[tawdry valley]

Bypassing a large barrier like that is what I mean when balancing all your resources

DF+QF is nice, but it’s not as nice as Qslash is when rad spawns right on top of you, or shaman stone when you’re looking for a decent spell opening, or MoP for surviving and prospering phases 1-3 in the first place

[fiery coral]

That's true yeah

[tawdry valley]

That being said, I don’t think it’s not viable, I think it’s just something that needs to be considered by the player being recommend it

[digital glen]

Hey DDX, unrelated but is General Grievous keeping the santa hoodie until christmas?

[tawdry valley]

This is my default pfp

My festive pfp is a more festive version of festive grievous 🥴

[digital glen]

Grievous looks good with the hoodie

[stoic path]

My build is Shaman stone, Longnail, uStrength, Spell twister, Steady body

[tawdry valley]

two Santa hats

[stoic path]

Still need to beat p5

[tawdry valley]

Qslash could probably fit in there somewhere, especially if you're using SB

[stoic path]

I could take out shaman stone, spell twister is pretty good on its own

[tawdry valley]

I don't know about that actually

Would depend on how much you spend healing, shaman is excellent for a variety of reasons on ar

not just the spell damage thing

[split tide]

Shaman is more efficient per soul

Damage-wise

[stoic path]

Well I definitely need steady body as I am used to no recoil. Easier to maneuver.

Quick slash does seem useful though I'm not sure where to fit it

[split tide]

Personally I’d replace longnail/twister for qs and another one notch

Alternatively you could swap out strength

[stoic path]

Longnail helps me a lot with bosses like Sly.

Why strength?

[mortal mango]

use sbody qslash strength shamans and whatever you want for the last notch

[split tide]

It’s a similar damage boost to qs, but the latter also gives more soul

[mortal mango]

50% more nail damage is pretty self explanatory

[digital glen]

I like a longer nail against sly also, but narts covers for me

[mortal mango]

and you can use narts for sly or ddark

[stoic path]

nArts confuses me a bit

I could try though

[tawdry valley]

Think of narts like spells that have a charge time instead of a soul cost

time em good for good damage, miss them for free pain,

[pale oasis]

hollow knight chess

[pale oasis]

Nailmasters glory: 1 notch, triple the speed. get Cox T Mobile 5G wifi

[stoic path]

I mean that, holding the attack button then trying to move around and press the jump button can baffle me a bit

[tawdry valley]

Oh you on console?

[stoic path]

No, I use controller on PC

My keyboard has ghosting

[pale oasis]

PC can also be that

since i use default keybinds (yes i beat p5 this way u can clap ) u have to hold the X key

[tawdry valley]

Base of your thumb on jump, tip of your thumb on attack, hold down attack and bend your thumb

[pale oasis]

its a bit cumbersome cause the jump button is right next to it

[digital glen]

In P5, when i get to enraged guardian - white defender, i always do uStrenght, QS, LongNail, MoP

[serene chasm]

You should call a exorcist about that

[stoic path]

With keyboard you can use another finger, but with a controller I have to use one thumb for attacking and jumping, which I don't normally do. I always have my thumb on one button at a time

[tawdry valley]

Okay but the button your pressing in secondary is being held down

[digital glen]

You made me remember trying to run in soulsborne in controller

[tawdry valley]

Unfortunately being able to press 2 buttons at once is important for controller skill 🥴

[stoic path]

Well I am used to controller now. I could always give ot a try. NArts seem useful for Sly and pukes Markoth

[thorn grotto]

Fuck Markoth

[uncut citrus]

Attacking and jumping with the same finger seems really unpractical

Like why.

[stoic path]

Well, the thumb is on the X and Square button so it is possible

[uncut citrus]

Ok but why

[digital glen]

I always have to do this while running in soulsborne

[tawdry valley]

Because we have 5 fingers

[uncut citrus]

Can’t you keybind

[stoic path]

LMAO

[tawdry valley]

Brain damage or crab monster

[stoic path]

Keybind to what?

[tawdry valley]

Controller. That's what this is about lol

[digital glen]

I think a lot of people do this

[tawdry valley]

If you mean remind controls, there arent that many better alternatives

[uncut citrus]

To something less important than attacking or that you don’t care about pressing mid air, like dnail

There’s a « controller » button on the keybind menu, never even pressed it but I guess it works?

[stoic path]

Dream nail is Triangle, the Jump button is far away from that. The Square and X is jump and attack by default

[uncut citrus]

Change everything

[stoic path]

Are telling me to attack with R2 or something?

[serene chasm]

bind everything to attack. you need nothing else

[uncut citrus]

For exemple i use the same key for quick cast and focus, but I always have it on quick cast and if I take dmg and need to heal I get ready to change button as soon as I get a healing opportunity, nice I don’t use focus in the heat of the moment I have way enough time to move my finger

If you have both jump and attack on the same finger pressing atracks while mid air double jumping must be really unpractical

[stoic path]

So I should put jump and attack as one button?

[serene chasm]

wait? can you do that?

[stoic path]

Focus and spell is one button, but quick cast is a different button

This is by default though, I don't know whether quick cast and focus being one button works, since quick cast works instantly.

Unless you are suggesting to go to the options then change it mid-battle?

[uncut citrus]

Quick cast isn’t really needed, never really seen the difference but since I’ve been doing a lot of rads i might as well be sure not to accidentally start to focus or smth

By « a lot of rads » I mean one in particular actually

[digital glen]

Good thing i got used to quickcasy for pantheons

[stoic path]

I use quick cast all the time, it's faster than normal spell

[uncut citrus]

What I mean is just don’t have jump and attack from the same finger cause then you need a lot of moving your finger really fast, sometimes too fast that you actually can. For exemple PV, when your juste 0.2sec late to realize it’s dashing at you, you must jump and hit down cause just jumping ain’t gonna cut it, and you don’t have time to move your finger between the jump and hit down, or if hit a party from really close, jumping air gonna cut it you must both just and hit at the same time

[chrome dragon]

Okay

[stoic path]

I might have a skill issue

[mint valve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0VXz9b1I68 4:50 What song is this?

Hello?

[rugged herald]

it says something about donkey kong 2 stickerbush symphony being the song

[mint valve]

thanks

[digital glen]

It is, i think its the restored version

DKC2 has godlike tracks

Forest Interlude is my personal favorite

[mint valve]

Its so nice for people to out of there way just to help a stranger. This community is so nice. I'm glad to wait around for SS with this community as we all become mindless husks clinging to any news related to SS. Good knight.

[digital glen]

gn dusty, im gonna try yo sleep also

[uncut citrus]

Bruh good knight even if it’s morning for me, when I get home you’ll wake up

[open abyss]

Hi chat

[serene chasm]

Hello User

[uncut citrus]

i hate the word "true".

[tawdry valley]

Bind everything to Dnail. If you learn enough about your opponent you can cancel them on twitter and they lose ggs

[uncut citrus]

when you beat rad be like:

Dante has cancelled THE SUN

seems pretty easy to mess up in high stress situation but if it works it works, should take the same time than just pressinga button

[stoic path]

Darks souls players:
PRAISE THE SUN

Hollow Knight players:
EMBRACE THE VOID

[uncut citrus]

my brain

my brain is not working the w-

i forgot my USB again and now i, again, cant work on my pharloom map

[stoic path]

USB issue

[craggy gale]

New info on ss?

[serene chasm]

nein

[stoic path]

I have exams on Feb/Mar which means I have an excuse to wait for Silksong :)

For me, the X button would be a little lower and the Square button would be at the tip of my thumb. My thumbs a little smaller but longer

[stoic path]

That's just unlucky, you can always try practicing what makes you feel more comfortable, or rebind to something else like the bumpers and try getting used to it.

[tawdry valley]

I hope that there will exist consumables that can be consumed in the purse menu, if nothing for the sake of spiking them all at once and pretending hornet isn't having a stroke

[cerulean sable]

purse menu

wait what a purse menu

whats a

i mean i forgot to add "whats a"

and i also forgot to add a "i mean to add whats a" before that whats a

work has degraded my brain nglg

[fiery coral]

[frank hull]

zote

[uncut citrus]

are you doing that just to troll me like val 8cant copy message link here but you can see just in #hk-discussion)

[fiery coral]

mayhaps

[uncut citrus]

:IWILLINSINARATEYOU:

[cerulean sable]

isnt it Incinerate

[uncut citrus]

i didnt made this emote okay

when im gonna randomly land on this conversation in 2 years cause i was searching for a message where i say "copy message link" or smth and gonna see my current pfp that will be funny

[cerulean sable]

who made this emote

because im gonna find him

and i will kill him

[uncut citrus]

too late i warned them about you

oh wait your an EXPERT GASLIGHTER im not sure he can handle it

[velvet sentinel]

@cerulean sable why tf is you name "elimimate hollow knight fans"?

[cerulean sable]

they will die

they must die

[velvet sentinel]

well everyone dies

[frank hull]

[fiery coral]

they run when the sun comes up

with their lives on the line

[cerulean sable]

The unenlightened cultist
They cannot make the Silksong call
Give up your will forever
Their singing wont be heard at all

[uncut citrus]

Ttacco seems to have a priority now, especially as the :IWILLINSINARATEYOU: emote is made by a hollow knight fan

[mortal grove]

getting a game for my birthday but unfortunately silksong isnt out yet

i mean thre 2 days left maybe tc can like release it on jan 21

speaking of which what game should i even get

[formal axle]

Clowns

[mortal grove]

i might just get celeste

actually u know what maybe lobotomy corp

[uncut citrus]

Idk I’ve « recently » been actually playing games, over half of my gaming times consist only of Minecraft

[young phoenix]

Yeah silksong is my favorite indie game of 2022, the gameplay is very unique, kind of feels like a certain amazing game called hungry knight but I’ll give it a 7/indie

[mighty ruin]

I just had a nightmare about silksong

[uncut citrus]

[mighty ruin]

the game was released but it was unplayable because of bugs, crashing on any button input

[sinful flare]

press A to crash your game

[uncut citrus]

could be useful in silksoul if its permadeath

[rotund cloud]

I mean... There is a lot of bugs in the game...

[uncut citrus]

your low? back to bench!

[sinful flare]

you have to play the entire game with mouse

[uncut citrus]

D O N O T.

[sinful flare]

my least favorite bug in hollow knight is zote

(sarcastic )

[mortal grove]

my least favorite bug is grimmchild

[uncut citrus]

grimmchild isnt a bug tho-

[mortal grove]

yes he is

[uncut citrus]

ehhhhhh no

[mortal grove]

wdym no hes a bug

[uncut citrus]

hes a vessel created by NMH, i guess hes kinda a bug as they are all bugs but he wasnt like born normally or anything

[mortal grove]

and that makes him not a bug how

[uncut citrus]

well hes not the same as other, dont really know if we can still can him a "bug" tho

[mortal grove]

do you think grimm is a bug yes or no

[summer hearth]

if you make a pc to hold your thoughts as a vessel that doesnt make the pc human @mortal grove

[uncut citrus]

grimm is basically the same as grimmchild

grimmchild will be the new grimm

[mortal grove]

of course obviously but you see grimmchild is a living thing

hes a bug

[summer hearth]

but yeah grimmchild is a bug imo

[neon frigate]

when was silksong even anounced?

[coarse leaf]

idk man, i think grimmchild is an intended feature

[summer hearth]

doubt man, if it was intended im sure they would have given it some accuracy

[uncut citrus]

wait

i didnt mean-

[coarse leaf]

true

[summer hearth]

a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away

[mortal grove]

facts

[neon frigate]

well, at least my great grandchildren will get to play a good game

[young phoenix]

Sorry you forgot a word infront of grandchildren

[summer hearth]

@young phoenix only one 😮

[young phoenix]

Great is the word

[summer hearth]

only if tc manages to live that long lol

[young phoenix]

and great kind of sounds like grey, IT ALL TIES INTO ZOTE

[uncut citrus]

WAIT did i predict amogus VR?

[neon frigate]

Imagine if it isn't even good...

[young phoenix]

Please no

[summer hearth]

dont worry in 2167 tc will release the game, frustrated since they still wherent able to get the equipment and fasttravel systems to work, with a world vast enough so without the fasttravel you can't complete the game in your lifetime

[uncut citrus]

yes i did, just before it was annouced at TGA

[young phoenix]

nice joke

[uncut citrus]

im a oracle

[uncut citrus]

||what if i tell you its not a joke||

[young phoenix]

Than that would be a joke

[uncut citrus]

ofc not actually amogus 2, but amogus VR

[young phoenix]

this has to be a joke

[uncut citrus]

this one better

i stand by that tho

[young phoenix]

How?

Among us isn’t fun already making it vr won’t save it, if you have a vr setup that why would you be play among us

[cerulean tree]

simply wrong

[burnt topaz]

Because it would be fun

[ruby oriole]

I wonder

how long did it take christopher larkin to create the silksong OST

at least, whats finished by now?

[burnt topaz]

I guess we can't really say

[cerulean tree]

about 2 hours for the full hollow knight soundtrack

[uncut citrus]

Amogus is fun wdym

[cerulean tree]

so probably 2 minutes

[uncut citrus]

its not because it has become an overused meme that makes it less fun

[pliant jackal]

You know what would be even more fun than among us VR?

[burnt topaz]

Among us is only fun with friends

[uncut citrus]

Silksong VR

[pliant jackal]

You read my mind!

[uncut citrus]

randoms are... questionable indeed

[cerulean tree]

[pliant jackal]

and that is the reason SS is not out, its rebuild on VR.

[uncut citrus]

i am 4 parallel universes head of you, i just predicted amogus VR remeber

[pliant jackal]

and later in the 2035 the AR version will be released.

It will be glorious.

[uncut citrus]

finally in 2074, murder will be released, for the final amogus game

[last ravine]

Good morning, folks

[uncut citrus]

Amogus VR

[digital mural]

silksong!

[split tide]

Tbh the limited field of view for among us VR does seem interesting to play with

[coarse leaf]

[burnt topaz]

The vr models look pretty funny too or at least did in the trailer

[cerulean tree]

they are very passionate

[digital mural]

ty ty

[uncut citrus]

idk how much of a compliment that is... but take it as you want ig

[digital mural]

they view me as a passionate god

[cerulean sable]

bro what if

reaching the top of the citadel, thinking its gonna be pure and golden

and instead you get greeted with shit like this https://youtu.be/3xuVdc477hw?t=67

[uncut citrus]

what.

[signal crag]

huh

[cerulean sable]

i mean like, subversion of expectation

[signal crag]

yeah, that thing

[cerulean sable]

turns out the peak of the citadel is fucked up

[uncut citrus]

and sherma reign suprem

[cerulean sable]

like everyone be "god i wanna see the peak and be blessed by the great silk 🥺 " then the first time you enter the citadel its all just corpses

[uncut citrus]

suprem like the brand, sherma is dripping hard

[split tide]

ngl I thought you meant we’d be fighting a city-sized kaiju at the top

[rancid swallow]

hornet just wants to jump off

[cerulean sable]

i mean

im not against that either

[fossil cedar]

good morning chat

[uncut citrus]

good morning||(?)||

[fossil cedar]

what's goin on

[digital mural]

It’s night for me

[fossil cedar]

damn it's like 5 am for me

[digital mural]

😔

[uncut citrus]

5am is night

sun rise at like 8am rn

[fossil cedar]

true true

[last ravine]

Here's 12:00 PM but I'm still in bed

[fossil cedar]

im not about to get up imma stay in bed for a few hours

[uncut citrus]

okay so

[last ravine]

[uncut citrus]

should be better

yeah more smooth, maybe i should put the eyes back, even if sherma doesnt have an oficial eye color

[fossil cedar]

[cerulean tree]

<-picture of me

[fossil cedar]

hi gies

[last ravine]

Some emojis are super cool and cute

Congrats to the one(s) who made them

[fossil cedar]

some of the emojis are adorable they make me smile

[last ravine]

Yeah

[fossil cedar]

[last ravine]

Hahahah

[woven rampart]

[feral tusk]

[last ravine]

[fossil cedar]

[woven rampart]

I made this one lol

[fossil cedar]

that's sick

it looks very good

[woven rampart]

thank you

[mint arrow]

Have you heard that relese date is 12 of august this year?

[cerulean tree]

real

[fossil cedar]

not fake

[last ravine]

?

[turbid rivet]

silksong 2025

nods

[signal crag]

We’ll see about that

[uncut citrus]

Have you heard of the release date being 13th April?

Source: trust me bro

[last ravine]

🥺

[cinder oak]

hmm

well release is feb

[night silo]

Keep this up and yall are gonna make this Hollow Knight 2077

[night silo]

False

[cinder oak]

i belive it iguess

we'll see

[night silo]

[stone current]

Anyone betting on this one????

[cerulean tree]

definitely me

[woven rampart]

we ain't getting shit in February LMAO

[feral tusk]

Next blog post from team cherry in February "lmao"

[long comet]

We're getting something in February:
||Merch||

[digital mural]

Silksong!

Silksong release date is 1st April dw guys

[fossil cedar]

we're getting sikjsong february guys trust me

[pseudo briar]

im in severe pain, i hope so

[small goblet]

imagine if tc fools us on 1st april

[long comet]

So that's when Graig will say "Hi" next time

[small goblet]

nah he sure will come here earlier than in 3 months

[coarse leaf]

if this leaked silksong release is real why the fuck is horizon marked on the 30th of september

[long comet]

Just a rough estimate of a possible release window.
Very big emphasis on rough

[coarse leaf]

yeah but applying that logic to horizon dosent make sence

so why would it for silksong

[long comet]

Hopium is stronger than logic.

[digital mural]

Oh boi can’t wait for sikjsong!

[last ravine]

None of us can

[iron spear]

I can

[digital mural]

Hello graig

[small goblet]

greg doesn't have to wait for silksong

[digital mural]

😔🔫

[last ravine]

The pain of waiting is becoming stronger

[digital mural]

Guys chill just play silksong on YouTube

💅

[small goblet]

but what if he did not do full playthrough because very strict nda lol

[obtuse ravine]

13 am

[stoic path]

Graig has finished the game so quickly he is now making mods for the game including a randomizer mod and an shaw taunting mod

[small goblet]

i think nda is for non definitive apple, don't know how it's really related to ss development but still

[merry heath]

wasn't shaw taunting part of the e3 demo

[small goblet]

i think it was garana taunt

[digital mural]

didnt say shaw tho

[merry heath]

ah ok

hopefully they'll add some variations in the actual game

[digital mural]

shaw!

[small goblet]

what if taunts raise your style meter just like in dmc 5

[merry heath]

instakill final boss by taunting with a 10+style meter

[hushed iron]

That's like the third advent of Jesus

[small goblet]

why "like"
it is

[coarse leaf]

thats because its not coming this year

[spice wigeon]

Any news?

[coarse leaf]

ss in feb

[hushed iron]

Mmmmm I think march have way more sense

[coarse leaf]

dont start now with elden ring

[upbeat pulsar]

Silksong is actually releasing March 1st so team cherry can troll everyone

[hushed iron]

Bruh but that's logic, February equals less money, and u know, money are important

[small goblet]

Silksong is actually releasing never so team cherry can troll everyone

[small goblet]

why tho

[hushed iron]

They will release zoteboat instead

[hushed iron]

Because a lot of big games come out in February (first of all elder ring)

[small goblet]

here

[hushed iron]

But at the same time, because hk and ss are similar to a soul like game, these game and elder ring have big portion of the same community, so they have to choose

[small goblet]

silksong and hk, as well as elden ring have strong fanbase that will play these games no matter when game releases and no matter what else releases

[upbeat pulsar]

Not everyone can afford to get both games. They would inevitably lose some sales

[iron spear]

repent your sins

[small goblet]

omg please don't change your nickname it's awesome

[hushed iron]

What we get in return, oh big lord Jesus grist, protector of the sky and the heart

I'm gonna repent my sins anyway, but just to know

[small goblet]

don't you even hope to be answered "silksong"

[cerulean tree]

o my god it's jesus Grist

[stiff owl]

Our savior

[hushed iron]

Bruh I'm already satisfied, I couldn't be happier

[stiff owl]

He said a word

I’m satisfied for the rest of my life

[opaque sigil]

Roc's Odyssey news

[spare locust]

yayyy

[opaque sigil]

Everybody repent. Now

[stiff owl]

On your knees and bow

[hushed iron]

I'M GOING TO CHURCH RN

[stiff owl]

When rock odyssey release date

[small goblet]

tomorrow, no lie for sure

[sinful flare]

Roc's Odyssey is already out

[stiff owl]

[cerulean tree]

when's noah's ark 2?

[nimble radish]

Roc's Odyssey never?

[stiff owl]

I’m expecting a rocs odyssey silksong mod

[burnt topaz]

Rocs odyssey release date is coming next tga

[stiff owl]

It releases with maskbearer

When’s the edge magazine for maskbearer

[cerulean tree]

maskbearer

[sinful flare]

What does maskbearer do

[cerulean tree]

it's a project being worked on rn by hollow knight fans. it's basically a third fanmade (maybe game). and it looks exactly like the TC art style

[grizzled nimbus]

He masks bears

No wait thats Bearmasker I always mix them up

[cerulean tree]

relatable mistake

[verbal tulip]

Is there any news of ss ?

[cerulean tree]

yes

[desert gulch]

wait what

[obtuse ravine]

news: no news

[hushed iron]

Same old leaks

And Jesus grigs in some message above

[burnt topaz]

Jesus is just one of graigs alts

[cerulean tree]

no thats obviously the real Jesus

[burnt topaz]

Yeah because he is the real jesus

[cerulean tree]

exactly

[digital mural]

silksong!

[cerulean tree]

silksong!

[random fox]

Shaq Fu: The return of Shaq!

[uncut citrus]

oh god () i jsut saw Graig's name

[cerulean tree]

Shaq😍

[ocean mulch]

JESUS GRIST

[digital mural]

They should have Obama voice a character in silksong

[coarse leaf]

preach

[hushed iron]

Obama prism

[uncut citrus]

:obamium:

[small goblet]

nitro moment

[nimble steppe]

[uncut citrus]

:demomium:

[hushed iron]

😂😂😂

[uncut citrus]

imagine having nitro and still being unable to use :demomium:

or :val:

or :gruzzer_milk_wink:

[hushed iron]

[uncut citrus]

or :goteherd: or just :gote:

smh having nitro and still being unable to use these is a :skissue:

[burnt topaz]

Nitro Andy

[uncut citrus]

imagine not having :PEL_KIG: (totally didnt just made it)

[ruby oriole]

koyn my beloved

[stone current]

W

[opaque sigil]

Offbrand seth?

[cerulean tree]

steven

[grave oxide]

T

[trim estuary]

A

[vagrant umbra]

Just a friendly reminder to ground yourself before turning on a pc or console. Just touch some kind of conductor touching the ground such as a metal shelf or a metal lamp pole.

[sage glade]

my pc is my ground

[cerulean tree]

kick it.

[coarse leaf]

i thought maskbearers was canceled?

who wants to sing "we don't talk about bruno" with me

or is this not a good discord for it

[trim estuary]

That was quirrel project I think

[trim estuary]

Server not for singing

[coarse leaf]

okay i won't

[trim estuary]

What

[coarse leaf]

SILKSONG IS GONNA BE SO GOOOOOOOOOOD

honestly, i think it might be better than the original Hollow Knight, just by a little

[trim estuary]

Maskbearer is about a new bug known as, and you’ll never guess the name, The Maskbearer

[carmine sapphire]

🤝

[short wagon]

All this talk makes me feel like silk Song is on sale tomorrow

[brittle garnet]

do not hope

[cerulean sable]

so what are we uhhh

[brittle garnet]

nothing

[cerulean sable]

some kinda... Hollow Knight: Silksong?

[carmine sapphire]

it will be on february 1st !!!

[brittle garnet]

just waiting leisurely

[short wagon]

Are you kidding me

[carmine sapphire]

in 12 days (real)

[brittle garnet]

(it is not real)

[carmine sapphire]

(its real and its coming in 12 days)

[coarse leaf]

lets hope

we don't KNOW it's coming on the 1st

[brittle garnet]

Feb 1st is impossible at this point

don't fool yourself

[coarse leaf]

that's just a leak, and they haven't announced anything, i don't think they'll just shadow drop it

[opaque sigil]

Not impossible, just very improbable

[coarse leaf]

but we can still hope right?

[brittle garnet]

well yeah it is improbable beyond reasonable doubt

[opaque sigil]

I mean you can hope for anything, doesn't change how realistic it is

[trim estuary]

Zote joining forces with Grimm to flood Pharloom with oil which Zote intends to sail on but Grimm plans to set on fire but meanwhile the US government is planning to steal the oil

[obtuse ravine]

our hope will take us to stars (silksong)

[trim estuary]

our hope will take us to the stars (our death)

[carmine sapphire]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[coarse leaf]

possible, very very possible

[carmine sapphire]

yeah i was joking i know

[coarse leaf]

anyone get the reference?

[trim estuary]

no

[coarse leaf]

into the woods, when the witch is talking about the giant after her garden is destroyed

sorry this is not hk or ss related

[trim estuary]

yes it is

[carmine sapphire]

look at what channel your in

[coarse leaf]

sorry

[carmine sapphire]

what

no im trying to say you can talk about whatever you want here since ss isnt out

[obtuse ravine]

garden? Like queen's gardens?

[coarse leaf]

oh ok

[coarse leaf]

more like witch's gardens

[obtuse ravine]

sad queen noises

[radiant wraith]

I only believe TC

No one else

[obtuse ravine]

so graig too?

[carmine sapphire]

yes

[radiant wraith]

I trust TC when they are being official

Not when a member of TC is quite obviously joking

[short wagon]

Is it true?

[trim estuary]

So you believe hollow knight has no lore, then?

[trim estuary]

No

[distant crypt]

Unfortunately );

[coarse leaf]

can u translate for us

[trim estuary]

read here:

[short wagon]

I don't know and I don't know Russian

[trim estuary]

Silksong releases on Feb 1st 2022 or something is what it says

[coarse leaf]

wikipedia says that and it's annoying

[trim estuary]

Yeah I’m gonna go edit the wiki (not signed in)

[small goblet]

it just says that ss releases on 1st feb 2022

all other text is useless

[short wagon]

I just heard you say silkSong will be released on 2.1 and now I find someone on YouTube says silkSong will be released on 2.1 and wikipedia says it will be released on 2.1. I really wonder if silkSong will be released on 2.1

[stone current]

'' Can you believe it guys? Silksong, just a week away. Silksong is in a week! Woohoo! I am so happy about this information. Silksong! Just a week away, oh wow. Can you believe it? Silksong! Just in a week! It got here so fast! Silksong! Just a week away! ,,

[radiant wraith]

Is this the date given by the leak?

[opaque sigil]

It won't. Source is bogus

[stone current]

Anyone betting on when is silksong ???

[radiant wraith]

It becomes a problem when websites start giving it as a date

[alpine crane]

Source : " trust me bro "

[coarse leaf]

feb 1st or never

[opaque sigil]

Also wikipedia does not say that

[coarse leaf]

it used to

[stone current]

Sussy

[opaque sigil]

Wikipedia isn't a reliable source anyways

[coarse leaf]

someone prolly changed it, to the correct info

[short wagon]

I need silksong

[coarse leaf]

ik, i never use wikipedeia

[trim estuary]

It’s gonna be really funny if it doesn’t, and really funny if it does

[radiant wraith]

The what? Skilsong?

[stone current]

I like ham <3

[small goblet]

i like silksong

[stone current]

Yet we all hope it releases earlier

[grizzled nimbus]

I like wikipedia

[radiant wraith]

I hope Leth deconfirms this soon

[short wagon]

That's a pun

[opaque sigil]

He probably shouldn't

[trim estuary]

He probably won’t, he basically already responded with no comment

[short wagon]

It feels like if SilkSong launches in February it won't be on February 1st

[radiant wraith]

Does "no comment" seem to be having any effect at all

[opaque sigil]

no

[short wagon]

Because Nintendo's head-on meeting hasn't started yet

[radiant wraith]

This rumor is spreading way too much

[short wagon]

After all, switch and PC launch at the same time

[small goblet]

if leth deconfirmed something once - it does not mean he will deconfirm it twice

[opaque sigil]

And the next one will spread too

[grizzled nimbus]

Ita gonna stop after the 1st

[trim estuary]

Like peanut butter, and peanut butter must be eliminated… we must use guns

[opaque sigil]

It won't

[coarse leaf]

Just don’t take stock in any rumor.

[radiant wraith]

Then people will come here to complain of course

How could TC do this?

[trim estuary]

I have thousands of stocks in rumors

[opaque sigil]

Damn SS must be good for business then

[small goblet]

as if tc gives a shit

[radiant wraith]

How could they break their promise to release the game Feb 1st?

[stone current]

Believing in no-source rumors dayum totally Team Cherry's fault

[opaque sigil]

It's on them for not thinking about what they read

[radiant wraith]

I doubt they care very much

[opaque sigil]

They really shouldn't tbh

[radiant wraith]

But like, TC are human you know, humans don't like getting insulted

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, well being publicly known figures kinda comes with that risk

[stone current]

Once silksong releases what's everyone's goal now

[radiant wraith]

Play Silksong, move on

[coarse leaf]

buying it

[grizzled nimbus]

I think Ari and William dont use social media rn which is a good thing

[opaque sigil]

TC's going to get insulted pretty much no matter what

[short wagon]

I have pre-ordered the Elden ring

I need SilkSong now

[trim estuary]

wilbo’s twitter moment

[stone current]

If they get insulted its probs better to not respond

[coarse leaf]

How does preordering ER make you need SS

[stone current]

Twitter logic

[trim estuary]

Don’t preorder games

[coarse leaf]

That too

[opaque sigil]

It is definitely better, I'd say. Agonizing over vocal critics is a path that leads nowhere good

[short wagon]

Because Eldon ring is on 2.25 I hope silksong is earlier than Eldon Ring

[radiant wraith]

But your playthroughs will overlap

[stone current]

Lmao

[trim estuary]

eldon ring

[short wagon]

Are you insinuating cyberpunk 2077

[opaque sigil]

You can always just play both, either swapping between as you want or one after the other

[radiant wraith]

No company is trustworthy enough to guarantee a game will be good before it launches

[trim estuary]

I have no idea what this means but I agree

[grizzled nimbus]

Actually yeah if it was released on the 1st then its enough time to finish a playthrough before Elden Rimg

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, there are fairly few instances where I would really be willing to preorder

[coarse leaf]

Cp77 def wasn't the only shitty release, and you don't need examples to say that paying before getting is a good choice

[short wagon]

But I believe in Hidetaka Miyazaki

[opaque sigil]

Preordering and buying on release day are fundamentally similar in terms of quality assurance

[radiant wraith]

People believed in CD projekt red too

[coarse leaf]

Then get the game day 1 at least

[radiant wraith]

They had made The Witcher games, no way they presented an unfinished game at launch right?

[opaque sigil]

Even if you don't preorder and buy it on day one, you're still making the decision with the same amount of information

[radiant wraith]

I don't buy in day one either

[opaque sigil]

Either way you have to pay before you play it, and there aren't reviews or anything

[radiant wraith]

I will wait on Silksong

[coarse leaf]

preordering can still encourage publishers to start sales earlier than completion tho, because they've already got a lot of money

[short wagon]

But SILKSong has been careless to my despair