sk-discussion

[serene chasm]

You should delete Norton as well is what Im saying. Sorry, I know this stuff can be confusing

[gilded adder]

You can jump when an enemy does an attack and if you time it right you won't take damage, so a strat you can do is jump into battle and do a jumping attack and you'll be safe.

[mint valve]

thanks

[gilded adder]

You can also jump off your horse and charge into battle that way, which is awesome

[coarse leaf]

Nah bro their minimum's obviously 16k ultra modded graphics with every nvidia feature ever made

[serene chasm]

you can replace,. Wont do much

[high hedge]

Can’t be gamer any other way

[coarse leaf]

360fps

[mint valve]

thanks so much but I'll wait for the actual game. I don't want to learn a new language just to play... SS. Never mind

[serene chasm]

All good. I understand.

[coarse leaf]

dusty you're gonna have to learn this stuff one way or another it's a common part of the windows experience

[mint valve]

where do I learn then

[serene chasm]

usually just google things.

[coarse leaf]

you can learn as you go because of google

[gilded adder]

@fiery coral Also, a whole day/night cycle takes an hour and everything happens in real time, which is really cool and different enemies spawn at night. Your stealth also increases at night and you can pass time at the bonefire-esque checkpoints.

[serene chasm]

stealth archer build for ER?

[proud vale]

I kind of wanna do dex build with some interesting aoe magic

[mint valve]

well thanks y'all I appreciate it. Man the HK community is so nice and helpful

[fiery coral]

I'll go for the standard melee strength build as usual 🥴

[serene chasm]

stop making me want this game

[gilded adder]

I don't know what build I'll go for but I'm definitely starting with Bloody Wolf 'cause they look the coolest.

[proud vale]

Bruh if they had sekiro style parrying can you imagine how easy this game is gonna be

What's blood wolf? I'm going for the Mind Goblin

[serene chasm]

Are these legit classes or are you guys just making shit up?

[gilded adder]

Bloody Wolf is one of the starting classes

[proud vale]

I see I see

[high hedge]

How much of the Elden Ring hype do you think stems from Martin’s writing?

[serene chasm]

I think it would still be super popular without

[high hedge]

For a while that was all I knew about it

[serene chasm]

Open world dark souls basically sells itself

[high hedge]

Fair

[gilded adder]

Martin's writing is a really welcome addition and it seems the story is more involved in the game because of it but it's still the latest game from From Software so I think it would be still be super hyped and anticipated.

[high hedge]

That makes sense. I wonder how much the story will be talked about vs the gameplay. Think it’ll be stand out?

[gilded adder]

Need the armor sets to look cool as fuck so FashionSouls can be a thing in Elden Ring but I don't doubt that they will.

[gilded adder]

From games already have really dedicated lorists so I think both the gameplay and lore will be talked about a huge deal, hard to say which one will be more discussed since the game isn't out yet.

[high hedge]

Fair, we’ll see soon enough

[proud vale]

Elden ring gonna destroy my wallet

[serene chasm]

how much is it in aus$

[proud vale]

$89.95

[serene chasm]

ugh

sorry that sucks

[proud vale]

Hahah it's fine, it likely equals the same to everyone else in terms of wages

[coarse leaf]

might wanna wait for sales

[serene chasm]

Its 65 USD if you converted it.

[coarse leaf]

ds3 gets huge discounts during sales, who knows they might do similar for ER

[serene chasm]

DS3 is old though

I am hoping that ER will make Sekiro get some good discounts

[proud vale]

True but I'm fairly sure if I worked in America the same job I would get paid less in USD

[vague star]

when silk of the song release

[proud vale]

So it all kinda works out

It's not like it's cheaper if you live in a certain country, just depends on the spending power of your country's dollar

[cerulean sable]

its actually scaled well to my region

its 2000 PHP for me atm while GoW is 2500 and MH Rise is 2950

[serene chasm]

Man, I wish I could have your mindset. But 80 dollars for a game is just too much for me. Thats like at least 2 weeks of groceries.

[cerulean sable]

500 PHP is like 5 usd

[serene chasm]

being an adult sucks

Interesting. GoW is actually 60 here instead of the 79.99 most AAA games are

[proud vale]

$90 for me is a little more than 3 hours of casual work though

[gilded adder]

Man, I wish I could play MH Rise but I tried the demo out and my computer literally can't run it. Like, when I load the tutorial in it's missing pretty much all the graphics and I'm dropped in a blank blue world and can't see my character.

[serene chasm]

Technically same, Im just a cheap bastard tbt

[cerulean sable]

rip

[proud vale]

lol, I should be cheaper if I wanna save better

[serene chasm]

Ive also never beat any souls game so buying a new one isnt a good idea

[warm bone]

I usually like to beat games before I buy new ones

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, I'm going to wait for a sale if I ever bother with elden ring

[split tide]

I’ll finish my backlog of 200 something games first

Or I’ll end up going back to starcraft again

[serene chasm]

I wish I did that

[warm bone]

😬

[split tide]

Damn

[serene chasm]

Blame humble bundles (when they were still good)
seriously most of them Ill never play, they just sit there

[subtle moth]

😔🕊

[warm bone]

yeah, I rarely even buy games in the first place

I need to make sure that I will enjoy them before I spend my money

[subtle moth]

also I'm leaving server until silksong comes out bye forever

[serene chasm]

I started doing that

[split tide]

Deals always look very attractive

[gilded adder]

Honestly, more games should have demos to see if you enjoy them and to be able to see if they run on your computer.

[serene chasm]

exactly. Sure I havent beat Dark Souls 1, but DS2 is on sale for 20 bucks, might as well. And so on

[split tide]

Yeah demos or at least some guaranteed early refund option would be nice

[gilded adder]

Steam has that.

[warm bone]

I don't think you should get ds2

[serene chasm]

too late

[gilded adder]

But you need to have played the game for under 2 hours and it can't be more than 2 weeks since you bought it.

[warm bone]

it's not exactly the most well recieved fromsoft game

[serene chasm]

I own ds1 2 and 3

[split tide]

Yeah it’s a bit restrictive

At least it’s better than nothing

[serene chasm]

yeah, from what I played of it, it didnt have the same feeling as 1. Which I loved.

[gilded adder]

same but i'm missing the final dlc for ds3

[warm bone]

ringed city?

[gilded adder]

yea

[warm bone]

that is the best dlc for that game

[gilded adder]

So I've heard

Slave Knight Gael looks insane

Love his voice lines too

[warm bone]

yeah, that and|| midir ||

[gilded adder]

"What, still here? Hand it over. That thing. Your Dark Soul.."

[warm bone]

I can't wait for the final boss of elden ring to say "What, still here? Hand it over. That thing. Your elden ring.."

[proud vale]

Curly you really need to get Sekiro, literally the most straight forward from soft game

[warm bone]

also the best combat

[proud vale]

You have a sword, you swing it, no need to worry about stats or other weapons (not as much)

[warm bone]

"What, still here? Hand it over. That thing. Your sekiro: shadows die twice.."

[serene chasm]

I will when it goes on sale again

[opaque sigil]

Midir is a dork who gets the shit beat out of him by a grunt before he gits gud, and an axe fighter at that

[gilded adder]

I have the Prepare To Die version of Dark Souls since I bought it before the remastered version came out long ago and they discontinued the old version.

[serene chasm]

I have that version as well

[warm bone]

I like the look of the bonfires more in the original, looks more magical

[opaque sigil]

Yeah it's very dumb

[warm bone]

ah yes, leth, the well known main dev of silksong

[iron spear]

Also he never said anything like this

Lmao

[opaque sigil]

He said that he would be surprised if Silksong came out after crowsworn

[fiery coral]

said the opposite I think

yeah

[iron spear]

Yeah surprised, I would be to

[serene chasm]

Didnt the devs of crowsworn say that SS would be out before their game. Implying its very early in development

Or they would assume it would be out before

[iron spear]

Unless crowsworn is like 1/4 the size of HK.

[opaque sigil]

Frankly it's more likely that the 2023 estimate for crowsworn is way off

[shy kiln]

Crowsworn has kickstarter, yes?

[iron spear]

Yup

2023... It's Dev speak for 2025

Lol

[opaque sigil]

Imagine if TC had pulled that with SS, the hell to pay

[iron spear]

Also... That was made before they raised like 1.5 million dollars

They might be extending the game out 10 times as big

[serene chasm]

They have the money. Might as well

[opaque sigil]

And due to backer goals, presumably some commitment to expand

[iron spear]

I liked the final goal of "make crowsworn even better"

[opaque sigil]

Straightforward and to the point

[iron spear]

That's gotta take at least another 2 years to do

[elfin swift]

i think ds1 is the weakest dark souls entry of the three

[fiery coral]

🤝

[opaque sigil]

Series do often improve with new entries

[fiery coral]

...but ask me some other time and I may say 1 edges out over 2

[elfin swift]

so the main thing, memeing aside, is that all three are just very very different games. the things that make dark souls 1 dark souls 1 are not the things that make ds2 be ds2, or ds3 be ds3, and if you really really enjoy one of them chances are the core of the other games will be very different

[serene chasm]

I think youre the weakest souls game

[elfin swift]

like my favorite thing in any game is exploration and the feeling of being in a world, and that act of being a part of that environment and atmosphere is the story of the game. i think ds1 is the most 'traditional' dark fantasy of the three, and while i do really appreciate the technical construction of a vertical world where you immediately feel you're smack dab in something that goes endlessly down below your feet and endlessly up over your head, i just found the areas not super rewarding to discover and explore cause they felt kinda generic. like darkroot basin and darkroot forest are literally just, some forest. the burg is basically a bunch of house shaped boxes full of soldiers to kill. mainly because the most interesting/unique spaces, in terms of story and environment, were all in the back half of the game, and i think we all know how that song and dance goes

[fiery coral]

the one strength DS1 has in my book is how levels connect to each other

everything else is mostly meh or bad to me personally 🥴

[elfin swift]

yeah there's obv a lot of technical elegance in the actual arrangement of layout and the way the paths are all tied together

[warm bone]

I think its great up to o and s

[gilded adder]

Funny enough, I stopped playing DS1 when I got to O and S.

[warm bone]

I missed how interconnected the world was in ds1 when I was playing ds3, I am very happy they are bringing some of that back with elden ring's open world

[serene chasm]

dude same

[elfin swift]

bloodborne has a lot of that interconnection too

[warm bone]

haven't played bb

[elfin swift]

i'm just going through now and it's driving me a little insane it's very good

[fiery coral]

Depths and Blighttown

[serene chasm]

Bloodborne for PC dammit!

[gilded adder]

I really want to play Bloodborne but Sony say no PC port and I say me no buy PS4

[elfin swift]

just buy a ps5 instead

[warm bone]

they have ported every single game besides bb

[serene chasm]

Seriously why are they holding off. Its free money

[gilded adder]

That's kind of why I'm really excited for Elden Ring

[fiery coral]

Undead Burg/Parish...good, but fairly unremarkable compared to other areas in the series, I find

[proud vale]

Maybe one day we could play bloodborne either through a port or cloud

or emulation ofc

[elfin swift]

yeah, i think they just ultimately felt like boxes full of enemies to me, not once-living townships that've left a dust-outline of their old selves. and the visual identity of the burg/parish is just a lil dull

[warm bone]

people be saying there is bb on pc with psnow but those people are dum dums

psnow is at 30 fps and no dlc

plus it's a streaming subscription service

[fiery coral]

hey, main game + no DLC still better than no game to be fair

[gilded adder]

The whole point of BB on PC is to escape 30 fps hell.

[uncut citrus]

||(30fps is good wdym )||

[elfin swift]

i really loved the forest of fallen giants and lost bastille in 2, as areas. they way they're woven together felt a lot like how from would design areas like the cathedral of the deep in 3, and the way it felt like moving through the areas let you see a progressive narrative through it's different parts

[fiery coral]

Lost Bastille was cool I agree, Forest I do not recall enjoying as much

[glass elk]

fofg is a good level

[fiery coral]

although it's been a while now

[proud vale]

you want 60fps, just play double speed smh

[warm bone]

true

[elfin swift]

like the burg and parish to me had this problem where it's like. once you've seen the first room you've basically seen the entire burg. it's just 'town full of zombies'

[uncut citrus]

I do agree with your statement.

[gilded adder]

I'm actually tempted to play through DS3 now, never really played it and apparently it's faster paced than DS1 and I do generally like fast paced combat. Thinking of streaming my journey too but not sure

[elfin swift]

compare with like, forest of fallen giants where you start in this natural outskirts forest, you get to this room just fucking stacked with dead bodies and crumbling outer battlements, you make your way to the actual fort itself, and then you can either climb to the top, try fighting the pursuer when he cuts you off in the middle of the level, you could dive down into the lower dungeons, you could go to the armory out back behind the fort where all the giant trees are

[warm bone]

@ mods no self advertising

[fiery coral]

Do it

[warm bone]

how far are you?

[fiery coral]

DS3 is awesome

[elfin swift]

i think if that's your vibe you'd really enjoy 3's combat

[gilded adder]

I was thinking outloud!

[elfin swift]

oh jacob geller put out a really good video essay on ds3, actually got my vibes going so much it made me go back and replay it

[gilded adder]

I never played DS3 really. Only booted it up to see if I could run it.

[warm bone]

well it is good game

[elfin swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnAWQz34PJs

[proud vale]

DS3 is cool but was hard to glean the story for me

[warm bone]

oh yeah I remember watching that

I like that the story of ds3 is that they are sick of making more dark souls games

[fiery coral]

speaking of Jacob Geller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm5Ogh_c0Ig

talks about Manifold Garden

play it

[elfin swift]

i think sometimes with fromsoft games people get too stuck in like. nailing down the canon of the plot and explaining it, in the vein of like, explaining What Happened at the end of annihilation. but then don't really give as much attention to the emotional and atmospheric narrative, or the actual themes of the game

[fiery coral]

anyway back to DS3

[gilded adder]

I've heard Bloodborne is like the fastest paced From game and that's one of the reasons I really want to play it.

[fiery coral]

yep it is

[brazen needle]

who's jacob geller?

[elfin swift]

i think sekiro is faster paced personally, tbh it was so quick and reactive i couldn't get into it

[cerulean sable]

it wouldve been a lot better if they had synthwave

[fiery coral]

guy who makes video essays, good ones if the one I sent is anything to go by (it's the only one I've watched 🥴)

[serene chasm]

everything is better with synthwave

[gilded adder]

I've played Sekiro and remember liking it quite a bit, never finished it though.

[elfin swift]

his video essays mostly are bout analyzing video games, and they're really good. i think this one is my personal fav of his, on haunted houses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mexs39y0Imw&t=213s

[fiery coral]

Bloodborne encourages aggression more I think

[serene chasm]

is bloodborne combat faster then sekiros?

[proud vale]

sekiro is sick, i would recommend finishing it just for the final boss

[fiery coral]

hesitation is defeat

[warm bone]

something funny I just discovered is that patches was in armored core before he was even in demon's souls

[fiery coral]

what

he is everywhere

[uncut citrus]

« Encourage aggression » is such a wierd thing to hear without context

[warm bone]

patches transcends the time space continuum

[elfin swift]

bloodborne encourages plowing through all the chalice dungeons immediately upon getting them so when you get back to the main game you're hilariously overpowered with 50 bloodtinge and a beefy chikage

[fiery coral]

speaking of Armoured Core, they're rumoured to be working on a new Armoured Core project now...?

[proud vale]

sekiro definitely encourages patience and timing, but if you like ancient japanese culture it's a no-brainer

[elfin swift]

lmao you're kidding another armored core??

[gilded adder]

I want to play through DS3 and Sekiro again but I'm also not sure if I'll be able to get Elden Ring on release. Actually, that might be good cause it will give me time to finish one or the other. I think if I do I'll go with DS3 since I like the RPG elements of souls games and creating your own character.

[warm bone]

yup still patches

[warm bone]

I think it was leaked

[elfin swift]

that would be such a out of left field announcement, incredible

[fiery coral]

From just make Bloodborne 2 already

[elfin swift]

can only do that if they get the green light from sony

[proud vale]

Hopefully Arceus legends keeps me busy in the wait for silksong and ER

[fiery coral]

would Sony say no to Bloodborne 2

[warm bone]

maybe

[iron spear]

What has Sony got to do with it?

Do they own BB studio?

[warm bone]

they are the publisher, therefore they control everything

[elfin swift]

miyazaki's mentioned that the decision to make a bloodborne sequel isn't up to him

[proud vale]

exclusivity deal?

[elfin swift]

i assume so i'd have to double check though

oh did you ever see matt mcmuscle's video on the development of demon souls? and why fromsoft has a kinda weird relationship with sony as a publisher

[fiery coral]

he said he's not the one to decide

[elfin swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ3_I10FXIY

[warm bone]

sony is in full control, fromsoft could not continue the ip without their permission

[fiery coral]

why would Sony ever think 'hmm Bloodborne 2 is not a good decision right now'

[iron spear]

They signed their IP away too bad

[fiery coral]

do it Sony

[iron spear]

Pro tip don't do that

[elfin swift]

it's so funny that miyazaki just deadass lied to sony's face about demon's souls' difficulty

[warm bone]

miyazaki don't give a damn

[fiery coral]

I know you're watching this random channel in the HK discord server, Mr. Yoshida

[iron spear]

How much did bloodborne make?

[proud vale]

unless you're planning on it being your only game and are planning to live off the earnings

[uncut citrus]

At least 7$

[elfin swift]

according to this vid, basically demon's souls was a backburner project while fromsoft had two other games in the pipes, and DeS already had a bit of a wonky development and was expected to not be a very profitable game, so basically no one was paying attention to it and he was able to swoop in and turn it into his dream game

[uncut citrus]

( ik I’m very funny)

[iron spear]

BB could have been a commercial failure and Sony are just like... I'm out

[serene chasm]

Sales

The game sold 152,567 physical retail copies within the first week of release in Japan,[88] ranking first place within the Japanese software sales charts for that particular week.[89] Bloodborne debuted at number two in the UK software retail chart, behind Battlefield Hardline by 22,500 units.[90] In North America, Bloodborne was the second best selling software in March, despite being released at the end of the month.[91] By April 2015, the game had sold over one million copies,[92] and by September 2015, the game had over two million copies sold.[93] Soon after release, Sony stated that the game's sales exceeded their expectations.[94]

[elfin swift]

skimming wikipedia, sony states the game's sales 'exceeded their expectations,' and based on them courting fromsoft back into their corner as a direct response to dark souls/demon's souls success i assume it did better than those two in their eyes

[serene chasm]

Seems like it did pretty well.

[elfin swift]

my wikipedia copy pasting was simply not as fast or as powerful as curly's

[serene chasm]

you paraphrased, I just copy pasted

[warm bone]

we are not the same

[gilded adder]

Speaking of BB, this is still one of my favorite tracks in any game: https://youtu.be/3V9zxXN1rx0

[elfin swift]

oh and fromsoft also doesn't really work with huge inflated budgets the way you'd expect from modern AAA studios, so while they probably still had like, a video-game-size big ass budget they probs didn't have to counterbalance some insane investment like, say, re6 or something

[warm bone]

well they don't have that large a team either

compared to other AAAs

[elfin swift]

how big is fromsoft's team?

[iron spear]

There are so many things that are deciding factors to anything. You have to remember a company as large as Sony aren't about making profit, they are about maximising profit.

So they might see it as a waste of their effort to make that project vs another

[warm bone]

it's been expanded for elden ring but idk the number

[fiery coral]

that one's so good

it's my favourite fight in the game

[plain loom]

I don’t think BB being a bad game would have a bad effect for Sony, it would have a bad effect on the company

[elfin swift]

oh man those wha happun deep dives into troubled game development are such a trip, sony wanting whack things from devs and sending a project pinballing/sony having absolutely no clue what they want has come up a few times

[plain loom]

They’ve still made great games, so a one off piece of garbage doesn’t necessarily negate future deals

[serene chasm]

Here's my theory on why bb hasn't got a pc version. It's probably coded in such a way that porting it would be really hard to do

[warm bone]

doubt it, runs in the same engine as all the other fromsoft games

[glass elk]

it wasn't a bad game anyway so yeah

[quartz yew]

I saw Jacob Geller in the chat. I see this chat has some good taste

[glass elk]

its coded in a really weird way where the game speed is tied to the frame rate so that might have something to do with it (according to digital foundry)

[elfin swift]

i'm here to be the eternal beater of the jacob geller drum

[elfin swift]

oh interesting is that why the frame rate skips sometimes? i had no idea

[serene chasm]

I need to watch more of his videos

[elfin swift]

there's a mod you can get on ps4 that raises it to 60fps and it runs fine

[glass elk]

what's this server's opinion on joseph anderson? he's one of my favourite game critics on youtube

[warm bone]

no idea who that is

[elfin swift]

i've also been playing it on ps5 and haven't had any stuttering/frame-rate issues, game feels fine to play and didn't run into any of the common complaints i see

[fiery coral]

watched a couple videos of his

he's fine I guess

[serene chasm]

He's fine.

[quartz yew]

Love his "dark souls is thinking of ending things" video. It made me appreciate the dark souls games even more and find a new love of dying kingdoms in video games.

But my favorite is probably the shape of infinity. It made me think of a bunch of stories with the idea of infinity in them.

[elfin swift]

i think he does a really good job explaining what he cares about in the stuff he breaks down and is in general v thorough, so even when i'm like 'i think you totally missed the mark there' i can at least see it's less a bad analysis issue and more a differing priorities issue

[fiery coral]

Shape of Infinity is the only one I've watched

why? because Manifold Garden good, play it

[elfin swift]

i STILL need to read piranesi i've put it off for so long

[fiery coral]

Piranesi is quite good

[elfin swift]

i loved jonathan strange and mr norrell to death

[fiery coral]

did not read Clarke's previous one

[glass elk]

yeah i can disagree with him sometimes, like his interpretation of the ending of the last of us but i can still see where hes coming from

[gilded adder]

I don't know if anyone knows this but someone wrote a whole book on Bloodborne's lore.

[fiery coral]

but this one was cool

[fiery coral]

Paleblood something?

[gilded adder]

Yea

[quartz yew]

Manifold Garden give me Blame! vibes. Exploring a structural place that's seemingly endless.

[fiery coral]

Yeah heard of it

think I read it once but it's been a while

[elfin swift]

silksong what's that we're talking bout bloodborne

[quartz yew]

What bot

[fiery coral]

non-Euclidean stuff

[warm bone]

?sspsa this one?

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[glass elk]

bloodborne is a great game but i wish there was less jank
having to grind blood vials is really annoying, for example

[uncut citrus]

Shut up, bot

[elfin swift]

one thing i really wasn't expecting and really loved is that bloodborne has all those doors and windows you can knock on and just talk with random citizens of yharnam. it really gave the world a sense of life, and just the vibes and atmosphere of talking with a stranger you can't see through a door or a curtained window appealed to me a lot. v atmospheric

[quartz yew]

Yeah. Love the grittiness of the art style and how surreal it looks.

[uncut citrus]

This is #sk-discussion. No more is to say.

[elfin swift]

oh my god yeah. it wasn't too bad in the main game but when i ran into that in the chalice dungeons it was such a pain. it did kind of counterbalance the estus flask problem though, where estus is a lifeline and if you run out you just can't explore anymore. whereas blood vials could refill more consistently, and having a bunch let you be more aggressive in combat

[glass elk]

i wish bloodborne had more varied level visuals
the dlc does have more unique visuals tho

[elfin swift]

by the endgame there were also easy places to farm like two dozen vials or bullets in one go

[glass elk]

doesn't make it less frustrating

[elfin swift]

yeah it just got a bit less annoying by the end at least for me

[glass elk]

the dlc is great but i entered to early got destroyed by the hunters in the nightmare

[elfin swift]

like if i'm running low i can just be like oh okay i'll go through hemwick charnell and get like 30 bullets off those dudes at the entrance in like 5 min. or low on vials just dip into a chalice dungeon and grab enough echoes to buy like 30 of them

[glass elk]

my farming location of choice is old yharnam

[elfin swift]

ah you see the secret to beating them is to simply overlevel the fuck out of yourself

i could never i promised djura to leave the beasts of old yharnam alone

how could i break his trust

[glass elk]

fuck djura

[quartz yew]

Anyway, I wonder if we'll get another infected crossroads thing in silksong. Like your choices affect some areas.

Also I want to think that the only way to get to greymoor is to drain the water at the entrance of the area and the only way to do that is to defeat the warlord in the coral area because they guard the switch.

[fiery coral]

what's the problem

[modest night]

what happened

[fiery coral]

#sk-discussion allows a lot of off topic discussion because there's nothing much to talk about in Silksong anymore

[warm bone]

they deleted their message

and they being annoying

[elfin swift]

oh man i loved that in bloodborne yeah. the feeling of a world evolving in response to your actions and your delving into the world more, it's fucking great when a game pulls it off and tbh i wish they'd done more with infected crossroads

i've been trying to tinker with that in ttrpg dungeon design too, i feel like it's not something you see a lot in published dungeons

[glass elk]

entering yahar ghul after defeating rom was wild

[elfin swift]

the ss in #sk-discussion stands for sblood sborne

[elfin swift]

did you get into yahar gul early?

[glass elk]

yeah i got killed by the snatchers in cathedral ward

[quartz yew]

Imagine going to mossy grotto and the plants all died because of the work of whoever is ruling the kingdom or causing it to die.

Or revisiting a town and it's just empty because the amount of assasins after Hornet is causing people to view her as a dangerous person.

[elfin swift]

yea! that would be really neat. and just the feeling of time progressing too, cause stasis and weird time-not-passing vibes can be a problem in big world games

[cerulean sable]

your*

[warm bone]

https://tenor.com/view/your-youre-spies-in-disguise-your-spies-gif-20405823

[elfin swift]

seeing how yahar gul had just gone totally fucking sideways on the return post-rom, all the kidnapper corpses, ||the amygdalas on the buildings|| absolutely wild

[quartz yew]

Yes!

[quartz yew]

I see this gif so many times in this chat.

[modest night]

uh ok?

[cerulean sable]

ok thats enough only i can meme, next offense will lead to the punishment of 7 days worth of tool discussion

and i know how much you guys LOVE tool discussions :)))))))))))))

[modest night]

modmail or something and no

[quartz yew]

Make it a release date discussion and see how things go downhill from there.

[warm bone]

🤔

[modest night]

you dm the bot

[cerulean sable]

release date discussions usually devolve around the clause that the game is x years in developement and that theyre in their polishing stages

[elfin swift]

i think bloodborne does one of the best jobs of the soulsborne games having an open-ended and mysterious plot that still keeps you curious and makes you ask questions to yourself. like finding the yahar'gul armor early on and reading bout like, 'hunters in name only, they answer only to the school of mensis.' and like up to that point you're hearing all bout how hunters come from the old hunts, or byrgenwerth, or the healing church, so hearing bout this mysterious school of mensis whose hunters are just glorified kidnappers was really cool

[cerulean sable]

difficulty discussion, holy shit is my fucking favorite, i come back after 2 hours and people are still complaining about assist mode

[copper knot]

ass ist mod

[quartz yew]

Last time I speculated a release date someone kept on insisting that the game will come out in February to the point where they kinda got mad.

[plain loom]

You think they’re in polishing?

[cerulean sable]

theyre always in the bugfix/polishing stage iirc

[warm bone]

my opinion on difficulty is "git gud n00b"

[elfin swift]

i think there's this bad tendency in games like dark souls or hollow knight or their imitators to think, oh, my plot must be Vague and Mysterious, just like souls! as though something being opaque and inaccessible is the point. and like the point of vague and mysterious stories is that they should prompt you to ask interesting questions and to engage with the world on your own, not feel like someone's trying to be coy and cute with you by not telling you shit

[cerulean sable]

plot is so vague then proceeds to never explain or hint what the fuck is happening

[plain loom]

They’re always? What, so they were never working on the actual game?

[cerulean sable]

it comes of more as "pretentious" imo

[modest night]

i like it in hk

[elfin swift]

i think hollow knight and souls moslty pull it off, it's more the overall trend of 'vague story you express through item pickups and piecemeal info dropping' that i think just completely misses the point by making the world and story feel opaque and intentionally inaccessible in a vaguely pretentious way

[cerulean sable]

no i meant, they do stuff like

"ok we created this new feature/area, playtest the fuck out of it then give us your feedback"

[plain loom]

Oh ye

[glass elk]

polishing the game is sometimes a longer process than actually making

[cerulean sable]

then pts give their feedback, then update based on feedback, rinse repeat

[plain loom]

That def makes sense, as I think they said somewhere that they’re taking the same design philosophy as hk

[cerulean sable]

no kidding in software eng we have the saying of "the last 10% of the software takes 90% of the time"

its been 1 month and im still testing the same shit lmao

[elfin swift]

also the neverending potential programming sidequest of 'fixing problem A caused problem B and we have no idea why'

[quartz yew]

Vague plots are only good when it prompts the player to explore more. And if the place you have to explore is as boring as watching paint dry then you're not doing a good job.

And also if the only way someone can piece together a vague lore is to interact outside of the game and not piece it easily in the game, then you're doing a worse job.

[glass elk]

theres a similar saying
the easy part of development is the first 80%, the hard part is the other 80%

[cerulean sable]

lmao yeah

[warm bone]

please do what the mod said and go to mod mail to discuss this, nobody here wants to hear it

[serene chasm]

The last 20% takes 80% of the dev time

[elfin swift]

right!! like. if the story of your game is best explained by a wikipedia article outlining events point by point then it seems like you're not actually using the game to tell a cool story with the unique tools that video games give you

[plain loom]

I don’t want steampunk in my ss thank you very much

[warm bone]

I can tell why you got muted

[plain loom]

[quartz yew]

The deepdocks and the clocktower would like to have a word with you/j

[glass elk]

clocktower looks cool as shit

[dense cove]

steampunk is cool

[plain loom]

Clock tower?

There’s an image?

[quartz yew]

Hoping a time manipulator boss. That would be interesting.

[serene chasm]

dammit

[quartz yew]

Dang. I'm late.

[elfin swift]

god DAMN ss looks so gorgeous i want to play so bad

[plain loom]

Oh that

[full rune]

ripping off of metroid ofc, no originality

[plain loom]

Yeah it does look pretty dope

[elfin swift]

steamed punks that's what i call hamburgers it's a regional dialect

[serene chasm]

SS is more brasspunk

[quartz yew]

I

[hushed iron]

I really hope in the next Nintendo direct

[quartz yew]

I don't even play metroid

[serene chasm]

It wont

[elfin swift]

if you think about it any boss that isn't a static image is technically manipulating time, it's just manipulating it at a predictable forward pace

[uncut citrus]

pun intended?

[quartz yew]

[elfin swift]

ss in december let's go gang december division forever

[uncut citrus]

ill take that as a yes?

[quartz yew]

[warm bone]

the game will be out this decade

[uncut citrus]

true, true

[serene chasm]

So what do we think the thing in the background is?

[tidal hearth]

im gonna laugh at u if its out first day of 2031

[uncut citrus]

oops caps lock

[uncut citrus]

arches

[elfin swift]

looks like a bunch of rocks. i think this might be a cave of some sort

[tidal hearth]

infection fr fr

[quartz yew]

I wonder if this is place at the exit of the deepdocks.

[uncut citrus]

tbh with the hot air i totally see a steampunk balloon thingy floating over the lava that you would anchor to those poles with the circle

but that totally only comes from two facts: the poles have circles and that would be cool

[serene chasm]

I like that theory. If it is part of deep docks. It might be the docks part of them

[uncut citrus]

no i got it for free (cause im obviously cool)

[quartz yew]

Ah
I just saw your pfp

It's even more cursed then mine

[uncut citrus]

thats totally better to get something for free instead of paying your friend for their work right?

[elfin swift]

a friend got pfp art from me off a silksong bet. she bet me silksong wouldn't be out by march of 2021 and i was like no it will be out by march 2021 and i bet 15 bucks. you fool. your money and your pride as a gamer will be MINE

she got my pride as a gamer and also 15 bucks that she just cashed in as a pfp commission

[dense cove]

i bet a bunch of ppl vessel ocs that silksong eould be announced at the game awards
i made many vessel ocs

[elfin swift]

r i p

the real struggle is wanting to do free art for friends but having no time because paid contract art is taking all your time

[uncut citrus]

for my defense i didnt ask them to make it

[elfin swift]

make one but the knight is just holding another, smaller vessel head

[agile kelp]

Why does the discord emote for a child look so intimidating
Is this how discord sees children?

[serene chasm]

Wait. That's a child

[agile kelp]

If you click on the emoji it says its the default discord child emoji

[uncut citrus]

i have even better

[agile kelp]

Beautiful.

[elfin swift]

fantastic

[tulip edge]

Now make sherma hold a smaller vessel

[agile kelp]

And tk is holding sherma whos holding a smaller vessel whose holding sherma whos holding the knight who holds GORB

[elfin swift]

this is the shape of infinity jacob geller was talking about

[tulip edge]

Then make it a gif where it zooms in for all eternity

[agile kelp]

Yes, and if you need it to end, end it on a good note with gorb who is holding the knight whos holding sherma who holds the knight who holds sherma who-

[uncut citrus]

no more space

[tulip edge]

Y E S

[agile kelp]

it exists, and it is astounding

[uncut citrus]

if this server doesnt accept that emote idk what to say

such distaste

but seriously i think that one would be quite funny to react

like theres a and argument

and you come here with

[tulip edge]

The trump card

Instant win

[uncut citrus]

and it doesnt mean either yes or no, so its just like "i am right" even if you dont have any thing to be right about

[tulip edge]

That would be too strong for the server
The world just isn’t ready for it

[agile kelp]

I wanna use it in #hk-lore

[uncut citrus]

i mean...

"PV was never hollow" with 3 and 4 under it, then you throw the :TKsayssherma: and boom ez win

[tulip edge]

They will bow down before you

[agile kelp]

Thats my plan

[uncut citrus]

but seriously most of the time it would be better just to use the base one, unless in an argument

i should really mod mail that one tho, idk how would yall use it but it became like for me now i use it on 1/5 of my messages (or at least i wish, since i cant use it as an emote theres less opportunities to use it)

[tulip edge]

Or you can just drop this down and they’ll be so confused they’ll explode

[uncut citrus]

WAIT

[tulip edge]

What?

[uncut citrus]

this is way better than and

[tulip edge]

Holy shit you’ve done it
You are a genius of our times

[agile kelp]

Just make them face the other side and it'll be perfect

[uncut citrus]

right

[agile kelp]

But this should be an emote in the server nonetheless can be replaced if there isn't any space for more emotes

[uncut citrus]

imma get nitro and i will refuse to react with any other approval/disapproval emotes other than those three

[agile kelp]

And ofcourse, zote

[uncut citrus]

zote is not an approval/disapproval emote

i will, obviously continue to use other emotes

i mean instead of , and and

[still owl]

The hell is that lol

[gritty heron]

I just came back from the first day of school this year and tommorow is already a public holiday :D

[uncut citrus]

NO NOT QUESTION

[still owl]

What

[agile kelp]

Just don't do it and you'll live to see the light of day

[still owl]

I’d rather die with the knowledge

[uncut citrus]

fair, fair

[agile kelp]

that means you die before you play ss

[still owl]

That’s fine I’ll come back

[agile kelp]

what if your new gained knowledge wont let you?

[still owl]

Impossible, my contract dictates I am not able to die permanently until ss is 100%’d

[agile kelp]

hmm, well then you may be free to ask your question and bear the wait which its answer comes with

[limpid plover]

Do yall think we'll get to see iselda as a warrior possibly a boss in silksong?

[uncut citrus]

that could happen, but idk why she would fight us (unless silk control )

i mean didnt she stated that now that cornifer finished mapping Hallownest they would go somewhere else? we have a new map maker in SS but it would still be cool to see them, tho i dont think we'll have much reoccurring characters

[iron spear]

You guys think Hornet ever goes to dirtmouth

[fiery coral]

yes

[warm bone]

No

[fiery coral]

tea parties with Knight and Elderbug

Quirrel gets invited too sometimes

[iron spear]

What about midwife

[crisp drift]

why would midwife

[uncut citrus]

i think elderbug would be the tea in this case

[iron spear]

They used to date

[uncut citrus]

What

[obtuse ravine]

new lore for mossbag

[uncut citrus]

What.

[fiery coral]

no

Graig no

[uncut citrus]

Yes.

[iron spear]

They are married. Back then she was midgirlfriend

And he was youngbug

[uncut citrus]

i mean... midwife

[uncut citrus]

just over "Roles"

the usual

[iron spear]

Oh what role is muted??

Sounds amazing

[uncut citrus]

Sherma emotes and graig shipping midwife and elderbug

smh this is the best part

[fiery coral]

it's usually better than this

[iron spear]

What

[agile kelp]

millebelle and elderbug

[uncut citrus]

i mean yesturday there was an actual silksong conversation wasnt there?

[fiery coral]

oh I don't mean actual silksong talk

I mean the usual off topic stuff is fun

[agile kelp]

how is hk discussion weird

[fiery coral]

Come to #hk-discussion and find out

[crisp drift]

the last time i set foot at #hk-discussion is a year ago

back then there was sarart and stuff

[iron spear]

If this a threat???

[crisp drift]

yeah i heard of that

[fiery coral]

Mayhaps

[crisp drift]

but anyways, that place is weird, this place is weird

come to #hk-lore
it's weird, but not all the time

[fiery coral]

neither place is that weird honestly 🥴

[fiery coral]

ha

[agile kelp]

which is weirder

[uncut citrus]

i wish i could do that rn

[fiery coral]

hornet lost

[uncut citrus]

yes you could actually come here for terraria talks instead of #hk-discussion where a mod end up coming to tell yall to shut

[elfin swift]

elderbug confirmed to be the midwife's old flame

[agile kelp]

this is why we dont see hornet in dirtmouth.

[fiery coral]

wait you mean in #hk-discussion

how very dare you

elderbug in a hawaiian t-shirt and a suitcase with him

[uncut citrus]

mod no slowmod privileges

[fiery coral]

😎

[uncut citrus]

why do we even have that much slowmode

i understand during TGA and stuff but like chat usally isnt too wild

why go there when you have #sk-discussion tho?

[stone wyvern]

It’s not easter though

[agile kelp]

not exactly dead either, even if theres only 2 active people

[stone wyvern]

You cant reveal the locations of the easter eggs smh

[agile kelp]

no its because everyone here is a psychopath.

[iron spear]

Hornet has a taunt if you press r3

[crisp drift]

you don't understand the word psychopath then

[stone wyvern]

[crisp drift]

leak!!1!1!11!

[agile kelp]

dyslexic psychopath

[uncut citrus]

hornet has a fortnite default dance when you press r3

[agile kelp]

theres r3 but no e3

[uncut citrus]

you need to have done r3 in HK to unlock the taunt

[stone wyvern]

can hornet pull off a triple reverse frame perfect hand grab in ss?

[fiery coral]

R3's a thing on controllers, you click in the right analog stick

...actually, not sure if it's on Xbox controllers as well or just PS

defenestration

[stone wyvern]

We don’t know

[fiery coral]

only guaranteed platforms on launch are PC and Switch as far as I remember

[agile kelp]

or children

[uncut citrus]

⁄this is... interesting out of context

[fiery coral]

though they are looking into other consoles yeah

[agile kelp]

because theyre all dead

perhaps they were brought back from the dead by their jobs but were left hollow inside because of development

[narrow lava]

ay graig, does the team know that the skull the hero slayer team wants to do a cross over with them?

[cerulean sable]

graig isnt joking this time

it was shown in the demo

she shouts garama if you press R3

[narrow lava]

he spends 10 minutes looking for every letter he types

[mint valve]

Well good knight.

[tawdry valley]

Said it before and I’ll say it again. If tc doesn’t add voice commands for Hornet voicelines, modders will

[cerulean sable]

god i wish TF2 would update to a wheel

[mint valve]

oh wait @iron spear here never mind I want some news if he gives

[cunning geode]

That Sniper is a Spy

[cerulean sable]

then again im already used to spamming x2 x2 x2

[tawdry valley]

Right?

[narrow lava]

the wheel system is not great, dota 2 has taught me that

[tawdry valley]

That grub is a mimic

[cerulean sable]

fair

but like the issue with numericals is that doing the commands past 67890 is a major ass pain

[cunning geode]

Some of my buds have their game setup so they can press a single button for a voice command, but I’m so accustomed to it that I magically press the “Thanks!” combo multiple times when fighting

[narrow lava]

funny, its the opposite for me, 12345 is easiest for me, I struggle to push the others

[cerulean sable]

thats what im saying, i barely use 67890 because theyre so far

[mint valve]

If graig gives news then tell me when I wake up

[cunning geode]

maybe don’t ping him

[cerulean sable]

maybe after you appologize for pinging him out of nowhere then

[narrow lava]

but then again I wasnt taught how to use a keyboard and am self taught

[cerulean sable]

i actually spam INCOMING out of habit

ive been doing it for 3 years that one pub, some rando told me to stop spamming incoming

then i realized and checked the chat and the past 2 rounds its just been

TTacco: (incoming)
TTacco: (incoming)
TTacco: (incoming)
TTacco: (incoming)
TTacco: (incoming)

[cunning geode]

That’s why TF2 has a setting to change the disguise kit from a 123456789 system to a 123 system where you press two buttons

[cerulean sable]

yeah i have it like that too

[cunning geode]

wonder why you cant do that for the voice commands

[uncut citrus]

Yeah sad

[narrow lava]

(incoming)

[cerulean sable]

anyway yeah that habit stems like in RTS games where you just need to press on something to keep your fingers moving

because having your fingers idle feels wrong

[cunning geode]

same here but I never play RTS games so I end up just never standing still

[cerulean sable]

https://youtu.be/bexWuHmV32A?t=91

yeah i spam ADADADADA because of it too

[cunning geode]

we?

[narrow lava]

never get into rts games, especially lol

[uncut citrus]

If you play from steam you should have them saved on the cloud?

[lone lichen]

why would you spam a command that isn't dispenser here

[narrow lava]

community is just toxic, dota is also toxic but nowhere near as, to my experience

[digital mural]

silksong!

[uncut citrus]

This is a « I wish I could react with this emote instead of sending a png » moment

[narrow lava]

the 1st mod I want to be made is that everytime you die hornet says git gud

[cerulean sable]

i usually like Company of Heroes because you command entire squadrons (ranging from 1 person to 8 units depending on the team)
ie a sniper squad on germany will just be one guy, russian sniper teams will have 2 units (the other being their spotter)

conscripts will have like 6 you can upgrade to 7 in a match

but really i prefer RTS with a campaign ala Total War

[uncut citrus]

Tbh if you don’t play ranked it’s fine, i’ld imagine that’s the fact for most game, competitive will get way more toxic

Especially high lvl play

[narrow lava]

I never played ranked, yet out of the 10 games I played 7 of them were toxic

[cerulean sable]

https://youtu.be/C417oWmUhfk?t=1125 seriously the voicelines are so good in CoH compared to most RTS where they have generic "i am taking fire" or "engaging the enemy!"

[uncut citrus]

How

[narrow lava]

perhaps I was unlucky, wasnt the most toxic game ive played

played 10 of awesomenots or something like that and all the games were very toxic

[lone lichen]

i played awesomenauts years ago, well before it went f2p

[cunning geode]

League and Dota are kinda predisposed to foster toxic communities, which is unfortunate

[narrow lava]

was it a good place? unfortunately I despise the community due to the toxicity now

[lone lichen]

the idea of an action-oriented 2d platformer moba is interesting but like most games i play long-term i became increasingly dissatisfied with the devs' balance decisions

game wasn't especially toxic from what i remember but there were occasionally issues

[cunning geode]

having small team sizes and long matches means you’re gonna be stuck with your “teammates” for the better half of an hour, and if one person on your team is underperforming it can have drastic effects

[narrow lava]

jesus its a cesspool now, atleast it was the week I played

[lone lichen]

yeah mobas really love making bad teammates worse than no teammates

[cunning geode]

I don’t play league or dota but I’ve been following their updates for years. League balancing is a fucking mess and Dota is way more difficult but they actually try

[cerulean sable]

iirc ice frog over sees all the balancing

[cunning geode]

yup

[cerulean sable]

and he knows how ardous it can be

[narrow lava]

dota balancing is actually pretty good, unless they add a new hero

marci had a 60% winrate which is nutts

[cunning geode]

even then, adding a new character is a big deal in dota

It’s every other month for league

I wish I was joking

[narrow lava]

jesus, how many heroes do they have now?!

[uncut citrus]

What really? Isn’t moth like a big exaggeration? Haven’t played for a while and I don’t think they added anything, even if rn they are adding a new one

Or was there something after Gwen that I just haven’t seen?

[lone lichen]

i tend to value accessibility and (for lack of a better description) linear skill input to value output

where the value of progression feels pretty consistent as players improve

i look at a game like team fortress 2 and it's all over the place even before you factor in how good your opponents are

[cunning geode]

It’s certainly not easy to learn

[lone lichen]

compare the difference between a day 1 heavy and a veteran heavy to a day 1 sniper and a veteran sniper

[narrow lava]

I mean, kids pick up the game and do somewhat decent at it

so long as they dont play spy or pyro that is

[uncut citrus]

That’s kinda the goal of easier class

[lone lichen]

pyro is smash ganondorf

[narrow lava]

what?

[lone lichen]

stomps bad players gets stomped by good players

[narrow lava]

I disagree

[wheat sail]

Dota 2 my beloved

[narrow lava]

its moreso that 70% of people who play pyro have no idea how to use airblast

[cunning geode]

When you discover the power of air blast everything changes

And comboing

[wheat sail]

is axe tinguisher combo still a thing

[cunning geode]

Yup

[narrow lava]

im not very good at it but I still do better than most others

[lone lichen]

i played stock pyro back in the days when degreaser/axtinguisher was king

[narrow lava]

pybro is my preferred playstyle

[wheat sail]

degreaser was nerfed right? before you just get burned a bit air blasted than axed. pretty bs

[cunning geode]

air blast is, as far as I can tell, fair now

so is the flamethrower itself

No more flame mojo as of 2017 or so

[narrow lava]

the scorch shot is however, still busted

[lone lichen]

is engie simp/uber stall still pyro's only role at high level

[narrow lava]

I think so?

[lone lichen]

sasuga valve

[cunning geode]

idk “high level” could mean Highlander and in that case maybe?

[uncut citrus]

when spy but pyro

[lament lotus]

add osu to the monitor and you wouldnt tell the difference

[lone lichen]

i know pyro never mattered in 6s

[narrow lava]

all I know is spy isnt used in pro games much anymore, they say he is a "melee sniper"

[lone lichen]

yeah spy falls apart as opponents get better

[narrow lava]

while sniper can insta kill from damn near any range, spy has to be behind them

[cunning geode]

Yeah that’s basically how it is rn

[wheat sail]

sydney sleeper based

[uncut citrus]

ok but what if overheal or heavy

[cunning geode]

Kill the medic

instantly

sniper doesn’t beat around the bush

[uncut citrus]

be efficient

[narrow lava]

sniper can oneshot heavy, or did you not mean to type "or"

[lone lichen]

i heard a while back that sniper was becoming more relevant in 6s

[wheat sail]

fully charge headshot

[lone lichen]

i know the classic 6s team is 2 scout 2 solly demo medic but i haven't followed the game in eons

[uncut citrus]

oh maybe im not charging my shots at max? or theres awys a medic that just overhealed that heavy? idk i havent played for a while anyways

[wheat sail]

think it still is except certain situations you bring out the other classes

[cunning geode]

Currently the competitive community is debating if sniper is too op

The answer is technically “yes”

[narrow lava]

sniper can almost oneshot a full overheal heavy unless im mistaken, if anyone else is shooting them the heavy is dead

[wheat sail]

hard to master but very rewarding

[cunning geode]

Sniper can one shot a fully overheated heavy

[uncut citrus]

the heavy is dead?

[lone lichen]

once sniper hits a certain point the class becomes obscenely strong yeah

[narrow lava]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-heavy-gif-19753303

[uncut citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/930585110019964998/image0.gif

get rekt

[narrow lava]

when the sniper is very skilled, he is op, cant do shit, atleast when the person is a very skilled whatever else you can counterplay

[uncut citrus]

||or bot||

[lone lichen]

i assume the ceiling for what sniper is capable of has been sufficiently demonstrated by bots at this point

[narrow lava]

that too

[cunning geode]

Bots are actually horrible. Some boys straight up miss you at point blank range

[narrow lava]

humans will never get to where bots are

[cunning geode]

the bot makers should be ashamed of themselves

Some boys ha, thanks autocorrect

[wheat sail]

I am proud of my work

[uncut citrus]

why do ppls even-

[fiery coral]

I as a boy unskilled in TF2 can definitely see myself missing at point blank range

[wheat sail]

and goodnight

[cunning geode]

that’s just how some boys are Unique

[uncut citrus]

sniper shots when your too close becoems hard

[cunning geode]

Speaking of I should go to bed too

[narrow lava]

when the person is skilled enough it matters not

[lone lichen]

even if human snipers aren't as good as aimbots they can still make the other team not want to play the game

[cunning geode]

4 hours into my 21st year and I’m spending it on discord

[fiery coral]

goodknight Wombat and Kirbstar, sle- WOMBAT WHAT

[digital mural]

silksong!

[fiery coral]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY WUMBO

[cunning geode]

Yeah I turned 20 today

Thanks

[uncut citrus]

yeah Happy birthday

[fiery coral]

👴

[cunning geode]

My hair is pretty long and my skin isn’t yellow

[fiery coral]

so you say

[uncut citrus]

this is actually a reaction emote, just like when you reply with or , this is actually Unique's face rn

[fiery coral]

correct

I am ancient

[coarse leaf]

happy bugday

[lucid imp]

Ss has to come out on february

[rustic nymph]

Why’s everyone saying that anyway?

[coarse leaf]

why not

[lucid imp]

Yes, why not

[rustic nymph]

That’s kinda sad

[runic valley]

I don’t think it’ll release in February because elden rings is also releasing in February

Though we will most likely get something on the anniversary

[cerulean sable]

i mean they were once told to not release on BOTW release and they were like "yeah uhhh, release it"

[runic valley]

Good point

[warped umbra]

imagine silksong

let me watch the trailer again since i havent in a few months lmao

[alpine crane]

i don't think that's a reason tbh
game might come tomorrow , even today , at this point , i doubt team cherry will announce it for a release date , and just release it all together

[stiff quail]

They don't generate hype that way

[formal kelp]

blogpost in february hopium

[alpine crane]

hype was around ever since the trailer

[stiff quail]

Yeah, to us, not as much to the general public

[alpine crane]

maybe

[crystal eagle]

I'd think they'd have a release announcement or something a little bit before release just to give people time to hear abt it

[signal crag]

They are not really doing marketing for Silksong

[stiff quail]

Maybe they'll announce the release date 2 weeks before it comes out like they did with the first game

[crystal eagle]

Ye ye, given how well known it is they have leniency in that department

[formal kelp]

people thought the edge magazine was marketing

[split tide]

It sorta was

[lost coyote]

if its 2 weeks before february 1st then its tomorrow

tomorrow for sure

[digital mural]

dont tell urself lies

[fierce thorn]

watch this https://youtu.be/EE-xtCF3T94

[uncut citrus]

thats what i told myself for TGA

[uncut citrus]

Dont. stupid rick roll.

[fierce thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-astley-never-gonna-give-you-up-cry-for-help-pwl-stock-aitken-waterman-gif-17671973

[uncut citrus]

No fun allowed

[fierce thorn]

why

[uncut citrus]

(but really this is just annoiyng and spammy)

[digital mural]

🫀 🔫

[nimble radish]

squirt some water into the aorta

[fierce thorn]

e

[digital mural]

"MIlkSo"

[fierce thorn]

milksong

[lost coyote]

milk

[fierce thorn]

yes

Its Not A Ripoff

[uncut citrus]

wish i could use the emote

[lost coyote]

silksong in 3 hours

[fierce thorn]

🥛 song

its Hollow night MIlksong

[uncut citrus]

this is gruzzer milk.

[lost coyote]

gruz mother milk 😳

[uncut citrus]

Do commit no press key in order to send message.

[fierce thorn]

e

Never

[pliant torrent]

Silksong

[split tide]

Can you stop spamming gifs

[uncut citrus]

Literrally just stop thats 2 rick rolls in #hk-discussion and now 3 there? like you know thats easily enough random memes to ping mods right?

[pliant torrent]

Please release

[lost coyote]

gruz father boss fight

[cerulean sable]

dont worry if he keeps doing it he wont be spamming anything here for long

[fierce thorn]

Gonnna Give You Up Never Gonna let You Down

[lost coyote]

never gonna shut the fuck up

[fierce thorn]

k

[cerulean sable]

children really do be trying too hard to be funny these days 😔

i blame the switch release

[uncut citrus]

rick rolls are only funny if you really got em, theres literally no point in a gif thats just the song, at least the vid had soemthing

[fierce thorn]

silk song will come in 2029

[native sierra]

leaked silksong gameplay

[uncut citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/891924780381523968/926961482229493800/SKILL_ISSUE.gif

thats the leaked silksong gameplay

||(fake) (cause apparently i should add that? idk if it count for that gif but eh)||

[native sierra]

dude i thought it was new silksong demo

[uncut citrus]

Ok but

actual silksong discussion

[uncut citrus]

i stand by that idea that it would be really cool and deep docks and thats how they would get the materials but after thinking for 7sec i realized the fact the ambiant air is hit wont help at all but its still possible also it would be some kind of flying "city" next to the mountain (if theres even a montain)

so maybe not the same thing but still flying things that would actually benefite from hot air and would work to transport goods and stuff

and that would fit the "docks" part

[civic timber]

Silk issue*

[burnt topaz]

That sounds pretty cool and there's like a little area inside the blimp where you can talk to people and such

Hey I agree with this guy

[nimble radish]

deep docks is hot n stuff so hot air balloon would need to be way hotter

[uncut citrus]

That’s what I figured

[nimble radish]

if it's hydrogen that might be a bad idea given the area

[uncut citrus]

Ok but like planes

Cause like unless you have an obsidian boat how will it be a docks?

[nimble radish]

I was thinking really heat resistant boats

[split tide]

Lavaboat

[uncut citrus]

Ok but that’s not really cool

[burnt topaz]

It could be cool

[nimble radish]

it's very hot

[split tide]

How is a lava resistant boat not cool

[uncut citrus]

Less cool

Also main thing that makes me think that was the poles

[burnt topaz]

I can imagine those steam punk blimps by the citadel

Because there looks like there's actual space for them

[uncut citrus]

They seems kinda high for boats

[nimble radish]

you know, a balloon might be a bad idea as the air inside would need to be hotter than the air outside
but a glider of some sort would work

[uncut citrus]

That’s what I thought about too

[uncut citrus]

That’s what I said kinda

[burnt topaz]

It would work for moving between the towers ig

[uncut citrus]

Ok i will

[burnt topaz]

What

[uncut citrus]

There

[burnt topaz]

Double of nothing is still nothing

[burnt topaz]

Got paid in exposure

[finite wigeon]

when will you guys think silksong will release

[sacred stratus]

end of 2022 or start of 2023

[uncut citrus]

actual discussion lasted 15min, back to release date discussion

[finite wigeon]

yeah probably

[spark pine]

why not mid or early 2022?

[finite wigeon]

could be

[uncut citrus]

Reevers left the chat

[spark pine]

ok

[dusty nimbus]

When Graig releases the gardening guide

[coarse leaf]

no 2023 is an ugly number

[spark pine]

Slikdong

[dusty nimbus]

The number doesn't matter only silksong matters

[spark pine]

2043

[coarse leaf]

yes, announce it on 29th february 2024

[dusty nimbus]

I want to be alive when it releases, chill tf out

[coarse leaf]

bro playing as a ghost is 24% better

[spark pine]

you’ll be dead 21 years from now?

got any plans you want to talk about?

[dusty nimbus]

A lot can happen in 21 years, heck even in 15 mins I could be run over by a bus

[spark pine]

true

a silksong bus 🧠

[onyx leaf]

``

[halcyon jungle]

DW, on Feb 22nd at 22:22 we all turn to silk

[hushed wasp]

2024

[halcyon jungle]

L

proof hornet isnt void??!!

[coarse leaf]

Graig is online, our God has come

[iron spear]

guide coming soon

[haughty ingot]

boy that reddit post is stupid

[coarse leaf]

the one stating the reasons why ss is coming out this year?

[haughty ingot]

yea lol

[coarse leaf]

yup, i saw it last night i was like 💀 not this again

[haughty ingot]

“it has been stated that silksong will release before crowsworn which released in 2023”

where was any of that stated

[quartz arrow]

Craig 🗿

[iron spear]

hahah Ara i was talking about that post a few hours ago

[haughty ingot]

that was not what graig said

or was it leth

[quartz arrow]

Hi

[coarse leaf]

leth suggested ss may come out before crowsworn does and ppl think crowsworn comes out 2023 so 💀

[uncut citrus]

Pretty sure crowsworn was based with like 2023 but it will probably be later, especially with all of the money they got they can continue dev for a while after

[iron spear]

it was leth and he said he would be surprised if Crow came out before silksong

[haughty ingot]

yea that’s it

[iron spear]

you know that silksong dev, Leth

[coarse leaf]

you know that founder of TC, leth

[haughty ingot]

everything leth says is being taken out of context

“silksong’s development seems to be going smoothly” translates to “silksong release is imminent”

[uncut citrus]

I mean he did say « I’ll be surprised if » so it’s not even confirmed or anything, just that he personally thinks ss will come out before

[iron spear]

Also if crowsworn is as big as HK i doubt 2023 its coming out

[coarse leaf]

Last August, Leth: pls stop with the twitter accounts TC is focused on finishing ss... Fandom: ITS COMING

[quartz arrow]

So, Craig, are you a dev? /g

[haughty ingot]

december 2023 tbh

[uncut citrus]

What does /g even means

[iron spear]

I mean they didnt show much in their KS trailer

[haughty ingot]

craig is lead gametester

[iron spear]

only looked like a few different scenes

[quartz arrow]

Genuenly, ljke not joking

[iron spear]

they might only be like 5% into production

[haughty ingot]

for silksong*

[quartz arrow]

Oh okay

[uncut citrus]

Oh ok I was thinking about what would be the / for « serious » but then I thought that would be the same for sarcastic, genuine makes sense

[coarse leaf]

anyways SS comes out next month, Leth is the founder of TC and Craig is a prophet

[lapis pivot]

pfft

[sacred stratus]

my dad owns Tc and he told me SS tomorrow

[copper nest]

We talking time of release again?

[lapis pivot]

apparently

[copper nest]

I always come in on those convos XD

I'm on the early 2023 train personally

[lapis pivot]

oof

[brittle garnet]

I just hope it's soon and if not then oh well

[lapis pivot]

i'm nervously optimistic about february but mostly doubtful

[sacred stratus]

people who think SS is coming out in early 2022 be like: "this is my hype train:" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail

[coarse leaf]

do americans even know what trains are

[sacred stratus]

they only know what America is

[copper nest]

Thing is, for it to be out in February, we'd need news now as I doubt they'd shadow drop it

[lapis pivot]

This train car is a new train to run in the future! Wooo! Cool! Super cool! The latest motor breathes fire! Uh-oh, if it really breathed fire, that would be bad! But it is full of the latest technologies! It's undergoing a lot of testing. It's called a gauge-convertible train. It's a sweet car that can adjust its wheels to run on any rail!

[nimble radish]

it breathes fire?

[coarse leaf]

thats pokemon black/white

[sweet lotus]

hello, fellow Silksong anticipators!

[lapis pivot]

black 2 and white 2 in this case, but close enough

[wooden quest]

hello hello

happy silksong day everyone!

[nimble radish]

silksong day?

[wooden quest]

silksong day!

[shrewd oriole]

silksong day.

[coarse leaf]

yes ppl think thats since hk release date dropped 2 weeks before release and today marks 2 weeks before February 1 there should be a trailer dropping today 💀💀💀

[lapis pivot]

every day is silksong day in this fandom

[brittle garnet]

If the trailer were to drop "today" itd be in around 20 hours, as news usually drop

But yeah that ain't gonna happen

[uncut citrus]

then be 50min earlier next time

[digital mural]

Wat if it was Australian time since team cherry is Australia

N

[coarse leaf]

Cope

[brittle garnet]

Yeah it would be, they usually drop news in the evening, Australian time

[digital mural]

So pretend to expect the trailer to come out wen u sleep

[brittle garnet]

But tbh if there was gonna be a trailer tomorrow we would have gotten a teaser today or yesterday

[digital mural]

Says who

🤨

[brittle garnet]

It makes sense

We got a teaser for the reveal trailer

[digital mural]

Expect the unexpected ✨

[spiral shell]

It’s around 11 pm in Australia

[digital mural]

Ik

[brittle garnet]

Yeah but 2 weeks until Feb 1 is only the next day

Tomorrow

[digital mural]

Wat if they decide to release 1 week b4 silksong comes out to surprise everyone

Go untraditional ✨

[coarse leaf]

Cope

[carmine sapphire]

zotesong

[sacred stratus]

we got a teaser for a teaser

for a teaser

[carmine sapphire]

where

[coarse leaf]

within a teaser

[carmine sapphire]

what

[wary copper]

zoteboat

[stiff owl]

This is like the slogan of this channel

[wary copper]

i thought it would be "where silksong"

[primal fractal]

IS SILKDONSG HERE YET

oh ok its not 😦

[radiant wraith]

No

You will know when it is

That's what #hk-announcements is for

[primal fractal]

false

that channel dpesnt even exist

[wary copper]

how did you get that conclusion

[distant vapor]

pajama set pog

[last ravine]

Hi everyone! I just joined. I'm David. Nice to meet you all

[coarse leaf]

Hello David

[primal fractal]

hi david, im also david

[neat palm]

We all know that this is what this channel if for, to ask ad infinitum whether there’s any SS news. And the. To discuss why tc suck for not telling us anything new

[small goblet]

hi david

[nimble radish]

hello david

[wary copper]

welcome david

[neat palm]

Hi. My name’s also David. I am an alcoholic.

[primal fractal]

three davids? im david 1

[coarse leaf]

4*

[stiff owl]

I’m not David but hi davids

[wary copper]

woah thats alot of davids

[nimble radish]

david into the daverse

[wary copper]

this is dave-discussion now

[neat palm]

I am in fact, David #1

[nimble radish]

[wary copper]

theres even a hollow knight dave?

[last ravine]

Hahahahah

🙈

[primal fractal]

sorry, i cant hear u from all the way up on my throne

[glass vigil]

[wary copper]

where did all these daves come from

[ocean mulch]

Why so many davids

[small goblet]

4 out of five letters of my name are in name david, am i 80% david?

[ocean mulch]

Yeah

[wary copper]

this is dope

[ocean mulch]

No, YOU'RE dope

[stiff owl]

3/6 for me so I’m 50% david

[wary copper]

no all the davids are

[last ravine]

Well, I come from Spain hahahah

[glass vigil]

My grandfather was named David

[past kettle]

My uncle was named David

[coarse leaf]

My father was named David