sk-discussion

[signal crag]

they have a google doc with ideas

[empty trench]

Only on mobile Gog. So do you guys think its important or its cuz the leak

[opaque sigil]

Talked about it in Edge, and no, it does not mean they are almost done, just that they sometimes have ideas not related to SS and write them down

[nimble radish]

hold on a minute

[signal crag]

they mentioned it in EDGE

[turbid grove]

thats a fair point, but imo 2 games on such a wonderful concept is too little, unless silksong is absolutely massive

[coral glacier]

WHATS EDGE

[empty trench]

In silksong page (Gog)

[lost coyote]

magazine

[coral glacier]

Oh

[opaque sigil]

Two games is better than three or four with little to no meaningful expansion of ideas

[tropic mica]

Maybe Just maybe, this could either be because of the leak, or the leak could be because of this, but probally not

[empty trench]

What if tc is finishing silksong 112%?

[stable quiver]

True

[lost coyote]

yep, we dont want them to milk it to death and ruin it

[mint valve]

Whenever I see a troll face I think of the early 2000s and fond memories of the early Internet @coral glacier

[empty trench]

Nah leak is because nvidia

But prob first option

[turbid grove]

yeah ig, i just hope silksong can be repayable in some sort of way, because I dont feel ready to move onto some other game for quite some time

[coral glacier]

Thanks?

[tropic mica]

Oh sorry I meant the google stuff could be because of this, sorry tired

[opaque sigil]

There's going to be the standard replayability inherent to nonlinear games as well as silk soul

[signal crag]

you could try different builds with crests and tools, also different way to explore the world and progression paths

[uncut citrus]

i mean they could do another game (fearlessfox?) after silksong or maybe two then go back to the HK universe, im pretty sure they said something about not coming back to something in the HK universe for like years but i mean it could still happen, after those years

[mint valve]

I have an idea of how creasts work

[opaque sigil]

Sure, provided they have a reason to come back

[coral glacier]

Ill miss strength in ss

[coarse leaf]

didnt the "coming back in 10 years" content turn into SS?

[lost coyote]

I hope silksong has more game modes, steel soul wasnt really enough to make HK feel fresh

[opaque sigil]

They shouldn't make a third HK game just for the sake of creating another entry in the franchise

[signal crag]

fragile strength?

[empty trench]

Oh ok (but Gog isnt google, its like steam)

[mint valve]

maybe some crests give more masks but less tool slots

[uncut citrus]

[coral glacier]

Ye

[opaque sigil]

No, that was a joke about maybe coming back to the series after their project after SS was completed

[signal crag]

S tier charm
i fucking hate that thing

[tropic mica]

I know, but in theory, not likely, Google could have taken gog as its source

[turbid grove]

ooh, this gives me a great idea, imagine if silksong had more in depth endings, with choices that you make along your journey decides your ending, sort of like undertale

[empty trench]

Maybe, idk

[mint valve]

or when you use a tool something happens

[coarse leaf]

It would be nice to see bindings but for like whole playthroughs

[serene patrol]

Imagine if its actually a real game

[coral glacier]

Not s tier but SSS + TIER

[sage glade]

real? and did u discover it?

[lost coyote]

that would be awesome, I also wish they had the option to put bindings on in the HoG

[opaque sigil]

Ustrength is a shitty charm because it's so effective

[empty trench]

Yes yes

[signal crag]

let's discuss that in #hk-discussion , if you want

[coral glacier]

Sure

[turbid grove]

nail binding sisters of battle would be pretty cool

[empty trench]

I found it accidentaly

[lost coyote]

for silksong we need the Brothers of Battle boss fight

[stable quiver]

like three TL

[lost coyote]

oh god

[tropic mica]

@empty trench another weird thing, maybe TC has that stated somewhere idk, but the page for ss on gog also says a lot of its features including all the languages

[sage glade]

damn it is real, just tested on my browser

[rotund aurora]

Anyone else hopeful at all for Feb?

[tropic mica]

False hope but yes

[lost coyote]

it specifies required space too? it is oddly specific

[turbid grove]

theres a chance, but I think theres a possibility that it comes out late 2022

[coarse leaf]

honestly everyone

[keen forum]

I believe

[tropic mica]

Precisely

[rotund aurora]

Yeah. I mean I doubt Feb 1 is the release, but hopefully…

[sage glade]

the date only shows up when you limit how wide the site can become visually

[turbid grove]

the overall specs have been there for a while

[tropic mica]

What size is hk?

[rotund aurora]

Huh. It is nice to see some hope at least.

[coarse leaf]

honestly I've been disappointed so many times already I've become kind of numb to any hope

[opaque sigil]

Specs are placeholders, copied from HK. Same as steam

[vivid belfry]

Around 9 gigs

[tropic mica]

Ah :(

[lost coyote]

I think they were probably aiming for some time in Feburary so they just shoved 1st feburary on there as a placeholder release date

[turbid grove]

fr? i thought it was like 2 gigs

[sage glade]

[tropic mica]

I can only hope so

[empty trench]

I guess steam says the languages too

[opaque sigil]

If they were aiming for February back in July 2021 or whenever that hardly means anything (which they likely weren't)

[turbid grove]

leth mentioned something about launching in october

[opaque sigil]

Pure hypothetical

[lost coyote]

leth says a lot of things that get taken out of context tbh

[opaque sigil]

He did not say that the game might launch in October

[tropic mica]

But what october 2021 or 2022, if it was 2021 they could have delayed it till AT LEAST feb and put in feb as a placeholder

[turbid grove]

thats a fair point, I just watched a video that flashed a screenshot of leth asking about launching in october, it could have been fake for all we know

[sinful flare]

what

[coarse leaf]

oct 2022

[sinful flare]

really? 2022? on gog?

[stable quiver]

So is this chat going to go crazy in Feb for any news

[turbid grove]

im pretty sure it was october 2022

[tropic mica]

Does anyone have what leth said precicely ?

[sinful flare]

definitely, yes, unfortunately

[opaque sigil]

#sk-discussion message

[lost coyote]

leth said something about "the game being done" as a hypothetical last year and it got taken out of context so hard so I dont trust leth discord message screenshots anymore

[turbid grove]

yes

[opaque sigil]

ffs nobody reads what leth actually says

[coarse leaf]

I bet this channel will have a 10 min lockdown on feb 1

[turbid grove]

thats from the video I saw

[sinful flare]

...10 minutes?

i feel like it would be longer. but you know

[pale lion]

most of leth's screenshots is him talking about hypothetical situations

[coarse leaf]

6 hours

[tropic mica]

This really doesn't say anything about ss, remember Leth is pr for more than 1 game and these are Just his unrelated thoughts

[tropic mica]

At least 10

[sinful flare]

yeah 6 hours or something

[turbid grove]

oh yeah, hes also pr for crowsworn right

[lost coyote]

I think leth should reach out to Geoff Keighley for a game awards announcemen- oh wait

[tropic mica]

Yeah, and maybe some other but idk

[sinful flare]

geoff keighley is top 1 in my top 10 hollow knight bosses

[coral glacier]

Me

[coarse leaf]

mossbag reference

[sinful flare]

True

[lost coyote]

I think everyone is hopeful for feburary, but not based on logic

[turbid grove]

what about GPZ

[sinful flare]

definitely top 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, and 2 at the same time!

[stable quiver]

why does everyone dislike mossbag?

[lost coyote]

I didnt know everyone did

[turbid grove]

I nearly went with the white defender, but I just didnt see it in my top 10

[sinful flare]

whoa! same!

[stable quiver]

earlier people were saying that he was the worst lore person

[turbid grove]

people dislike him???

[stable quiver]

idk why

[opaque sigil]

Powdered hates everybody, mossbag included

[lost coyote]

he's funny so idc his sense of humour and delivery is always great

[cunning geode]

can confirm

Water hates all of staff too

[turbid grove]

mossbag is like my fav youtuber

[sinful flare]

the only staff i like is are ps5s even real egnearlamgniflyk you know the rest

[nimble radish]

funny that

[opaque sigil]

Lore regulars generally know that mossbag is often wrong, and it can be annoying when misconceptions that originate with him pop up again and again, but we don't dislike him, per se

[shell yacht]

mossbags issue is old content, and people believing every joke he says nowadays

[turbid grove]

ur right, mossbag is too inconsistent with the lore, perhaps we should invite matpat

[vivid belfry]

I hate mossbag because he broke into my house and replaced my alpine shepherd boy with a worthless lookalike

[sinful flare]

TRUE

[lost coyote]

why am I seeing BCS references here

[turbid grove]

his theory about the knight being a reincarnation of the pale king is spot on, no flaws in that theory whatsoever

[rancid junco]

i hate mossbag he's like my mortal enemy

he said sonic mania sucks

[shell yacht]

well

[serene chasm]

mossbag came to my house and ate all my cookies. And then he kicked my dog

[shell yacht]

pfft

[signal crag]

holy shit

[small goblet]

mossbag murdered me

[steady raven]

Mossbag is the creator of the me when beans meme

[lost coyote]

mossbag came to my house and we had a lovely chat about hollow knight lore with some tea and cake,it was delightful

[rancid junco]

mossbag killed my dog and kidnapped my wife he makes good content though

[split hollow]

idk, he did say he hated Sonic Mania

[stable quiver]

did the chat just die for a minute lol

[turbid grove]

no, it was just resting

[stable quiver]

ohhhhh, ok

[small goblet]

we can do this even for like 10 minutes

[empty trench]

I got an html viewer for mobile and just discovered few things from gog

[dense cove]

mossbag came to my house and critiqued the way it was painted. never forgiving him

[turbid grove]

mossbag came to my house and ruptured my respiratory system, never forgiving him... makes good content tho

[empty trench]

The "..." is just for dramatic thing, theres no programmed message when you expand it. So its not generated cuz small space, just because theres nothing besides that

(it only happens on mobile)

[empty trench]

At least looks like

And searching deeper i found this, i dont understand 100% but sounds interesting

[opaque sigil]

That's about the images

[halcyon tangle]

room of everyone here:

[empty trench]

I though the "hide when content is expanded" was talking about the 2022 tc topic

[opaque sigil]

No

[pale lion]

do find it weird how when you click for more info on the ... for the details it just doesnt load on mobile

[empty trench]

I mean, we really cant see the 2022 thing when its expanded

[serene chasm]

how the fuck did you get into my house?!

[opaque sigil]

That term ng-scope is all over the place

It doesn't mean anything about the scope of the game

[empty trench]

Whats ng

[opaque sigil]

Something involved with the structure of the website

[empty trench]

Ok thx

[pale lion]

in the description on the mobile gog it says available: TBA but also says 2022 in the other section

[empty trench]

Prob cuz the 2022 section is a bug

Its not there for pc and it disappears when you expand the topic

[sage glade]

bruh that's just css and js, not related to games
https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/scope

[mint valve]

bug like being able to hit enemies through walls?

[lost coyote]

bug like being able to hit you through my phone slap

[empty trench]

Sorry lol i got memed

[opaque sigil]

2022 thing isn't even entered as a date

[mint valve]

were not on the phone

[sage glade]

is that from the stanley parable trailer lol

[opaque sigil]

That is clearly a placeholder description thing

At best some gog employee thought it was maybe a reasonable thing to slap in there because why the hell not

The other things there are "Team Cherry" and "..."

[sinful flare]

It's an Angular framework related attribute.

[empty trench]

2022 thing script

[opaque sigil]

I know

[mint valve]

pog?

[empty trench]

Sounds nerd

[sinful flare]

And that means nothing

[sage glade]

this is the line that is missing from ss's page. that is where the year date is pulled from but idk what is up on ss's page

[halcyon tangle]

yes

[coarse leaf]

wait was there news

[sage glade]

no

[coarse leaf]

oh

[mint valve]

no pog

[sage glade]

n

[haughty brook]

Nada

[sage glade]

n

[serene chasm]

no. no proof that SS is coming out on that day. Also, please dont get your info from tiktok comments

[warm bone]

GUYS ITS COMINT OUT FEB FIRST

[quasi yacht]

proof?

[warm bone]

Toktok comment

[coarse leaf]

i just woke up and i already was sceptical about it so i came here to me 100% sure

[shell cedar]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[warm bone]

Most reliable source

[chrome dragon]

I've never known anyone named "COMINT OUT FEB FIRST" but maybe today's the day

[mint valve]

I think thats a place holder for the month or the month they want to release SS

[coarse leaf]

ok cool

[warm bone]

I’m making fun of the image that was just posted

[coarse leaf]

ok im gonna go now bye

[mint valve]

bye

[lost coyote]

what just happened did we get a team cherry tiktok shadow drop

[bronze plinth]

Not even a small interview like last year :c

[mint valve]

Pog?

[lost coyote]

team cherry tiktok shadow drop is a hell of a tongue twister try saying that 10 times over

[empty trench]

Kekw?

[lost coyote]

this is driving me insane why is team cherry tiktok shadow drop so hard to say fast

[mint valve]

what does this mean?

[lost coyote]

what

try saying "team cherry tiktok shadow drop" really fast a couple of times

[mint valve]

):

not again

[bronze plinth]

does Ori appear from the mirror (?)

[plush spindle]

[lost coyote]

yes

[shell cedar]

wtf happened

[azure viper]

Sillsong tody

[lost coyote]

I went on #hk-lore and instantly saw someone arguing why hornet isnt void I guess nothing changes

[bronze plinth]

Silly sons

[summer kindle]

lol

this server truly is something

the only thing that changed since last time i talked here is that i am now immune to the dreaded "omori pfp opinion 🔇"

[bronze plinth]

i lov y'all and i wanna be here when ss drops ❤️

[little tendon]

They got muted it looks like

[summer kindle]

i both love and hate everyone here

[little tendon]

Ty Ty

For hating me, not loving me, you beta

[lost coyote]

when silksong drops I will be playing silksong and not here

[little tendon]

I’ll probably be at school when it drops

[summer kindle]

when silksong drops i will chec in here with a bucket of popcorn

[lost coyote]

when the next Nintendo direct drops I will check in here with a bucket of popcorn and watch the chaos unfold

[summer kindle]

last time i did that i got epic owned

[turbid grove]

same

u know what, might just go to class with a laptop every day and check steam every couple mins to check for the release date

[sage glade]

who tf is that?

[lost coyote]

grimm obviously

he got bored of managing the troupe all day and downloaded tiktok

[mint valve]

I have hopes Silksong is going to be the Avatar: The Last Air Bender of video games.

[stoic path]

When would the next nintendo direct be held?

[serene chasm]

monkey paw: It will. The movie

[stoic path]

Same

[mint valve]

yes

[serene chasm]

Too bad it wont exist when you get off school for the day

[mint valve]

Hey does any one know when Nintendo direct/indie world is?

[empty trench]

Some time like january-march

[empty trench]

Its random

[mint valve]

oh

[empty trench]

But generally happens on the 3 first months

[mint valve]

pog for SS release date

[empty trench]

I guess we're prob getting one on feb (even if theres no silk)

But im otimistic for silk now

Except for song

[mint valve]

WWWOOOOOAAAAAAAAA. There's like a 75% chance we get release date and a 25% we get game in Nintendo direct

[empty trench]

Ari is my uncle

He told me silksong is shadow dropping on feb 1

[wheat sail]

75+25 = 100% chance of getting ss in the direct

[mint valve]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-9864414

[empty trench]

So what are the chances for ilk and ong

[mint valve]

I think a 79%

[small goblet]

did something happen that you're now saying 100% ss in feb?

[empty trench]

Yes

[mint valve]

Theres gonna be a Nintendo direct in Feb

[empty trench]

We just checked and silksong isnt out yet

[small goblet]

like confirmed or speculated?

[empty trench]

Really?

[mint valve]

the lader

sadly

[small goblet]

[mint valve]

Possibly

[opaque sigil]

Why would you present a total guess as an absolute

[small goblet]

i was happy for a sec

[mint valve]

like a 60% chance

[opaque sigil]

[high forge]

Why would you be happy, in this channel, of all places.

[nimble radish]

theres going to be a nintendo direct in five minutes

[small goblet]

well... yeah, you're right

[empty trench]

Gorb is in silksong

[mint valve]

If hes alive in SS then its a prequal

[stable quiver]

I just read all that and you gave me hope

[tawdry palm]

oh god the nuke when SS releases... good heavens

how will the server deal with that

[quasi yacht]

delete it

[rotund raven]

bro just imagine launch day

[coarse leaf]

5min cooldown

[mint valve]

When SS comes out can I put Pog fish

[rotund raven]

also pros of single player games, won't have problems with stuff like finding servers

on day 1

or queue/servers crashing

[mint valve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxwbZsL14Y GO TO 1:13/1:14 IS THAT A VESSEL?!?

[pale lion]

im probably going to avoid the internet when ss comes out because itll be chaotic everywhere

[mint valve]

THE VESSEL SHE WALKS BY. IS IT A VESSEL?

[cunning geode]

no

vessels look like normal bugs, not the other way around

[mint valve]

Is far fetched

[quasi yacht]

no its a bug

[pale lion]

im assuming you're talking abt this bug?

[mint valve]

yes

[quasi yacht]

yeah

[mint valve]

SALUBRA?

[quasi yacht]

yes

[uncut citrus]

i cant tell if your being serious at this point but no, many normal bugs have their head looking like a beelte head pointing upward, (enderbug, zote...)

[quasi yacht]

they are the same

[uncut citrus]

its not only vessels

[mint valve]

yes

[quasi yacht]

salubra = child

[heavy magnet]

slug

[mint valve]

I was just so flabergasted when I saw it

[heavy magnet]

I want to believe there are vessels in Pharloom

I doubt they'll just be sitting around somewhere though

[mint valve]

fact

[uncut citrus]

they dont even really have a vessel head, the head is really round more like the bug next, just instead of one horn theres two

[mint valve]

I'm going for 1 hour

[jade canopy]

Well they could realistically be vessels in pharloom, we don’t know how many escaped the abyss and how many where lost for many years in the waste beyond hallownest

I don’t know why TC would put vessels in SS but they could

[serene chasm]

wouldnt they try to return to hallownest after the hollow knight gave out its call

[opaque sigil]

Yes

Well some might not

But most probably would

[quasi yacht]

no because they had a will the knight didnt

[opaque sigil]

They all have wills, TK just chose to return

[quasi yacht]

the knight doesnt have a will

[opaque sigil]

It explicitly does

[quasi yacht]

?

[opaque sigil]

An emptiness that was hidden within, now unconstrained. Unifies the void under the bearer's will.

If TK didn't have a will, VH would not function

Jinn and Seer both also state that the knight has a will

[quasi yacht]

wait so the knight is not hollow?

[opaque sigil]

It is not

[serene chasm]

Also giving elderbug a flower = will

[opaque sigil]

Well kind of. Elderbug does sort of demand it, but that TK is capable of refusing the demand does indicate that it has a will

[quasi yacht]

so if u dont beat the radience canonically the radience will just break out again?

[opaque sigil]

Eventually, yes

Not for a while though

[quasi yacht]

ah

[uncut citrus]

thats why destroying radiance is the "best" ending

[high forge]

ironically Hollow Knight has no Hollow Knights

[quasi yacht]

oh yeah

[opaque sigil]

False advertising, TC had better get some good lawyers

[quasi yacht]

lol yeah

gtg

byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[uncut citrus]

Pv and THK are both false advertising

[gilded adder]

Silksong is already a big improvement considering it has both silk AND song.

[wheat sail]

silk > hollow

[uncut citrus]

(bith like both names ik they are the same vessel)

[opaque sigil]

But does it also have a hollow knight

You forget that the full title is Hollow Knight: Silksong

[gilded adder]

We don't bother with the first name. It's dead to us.

[high forge]

well we'll just have to wait for it to come out for us to see.

[fringe pulsar]

Final boss silksong

[wheat sail]

A boss in silksong is it connects you to a random player online and you face another hornet

[serene chasm]

Here is a question on lore in SS. Would you rather it be vague like in HK, or would you rather see them explain things more in game (albeit with a bit of digging from the player)

[opaque sigil]

In all seriousness though I do kinda hope there isn't anything called the "silksong" in the game because that would just be weird

[high forge]

wasn't this something in Dark Souls 3

[gilded adder]

I think the game will have both tbh

'Cause Hornet can talk and all that

[pale lion]

probably more explained but thats just because im really inattentive

[high forge]

yes, the best of both worlds, perfection.

[wheat sail]

raising expectations

[gilded adder]

Kirb, how hype are you for the new 3D Kirby game?

[wheat sail]

Pretty hype

[gilded adder]

I don't have a Switch so I can't play it

[wheat sail]

I dont really know what to expect though. Looking for secrets could be fun

[high forge]

they could just release the E3 demo of Bonebottom and the uh, my brain is rotting but the mossy area, and I'd be satisfied for the rest of the year.

[gilded adder]

They already said they wouldn't do that.

[high forge]

fuck.

[wheat sail]

also curious to 3D kirby battles

[gilded adder]

Kirby turns into a character action game like DMC or Bayonetta

[wheat sail]

3d bullet hell

[empty trench]

Zote is in silksong

[wheat sail]

vine thud

[carmine sapphire]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[digital glen]

Warrior Bretta will be in Silksong

[wheat sail]

Not that optimistic with the new pokemon game but idk

[digital glen]

I dont think there will be recuring characters in ss besides hornet, e prefer really, to have just original characters

[pale lion]

i was p optimistic at the start but the longer i go the more i remember its game freak making it

[digital glen]

Bringing a character from hk would need to have a very good explanation, otherwise would just be bland fan service

[opaque sigil]

Mister Mushroom (or another form of the master herald) would be a reasonable character to have reappear

Explanation already exists since he heralds an age's end

[wheat sail]

idk if gamefreak is to blame because some other entity is making the decision for gamefreak to have to make x pokemon games every year so they may be forced to rush every game. But still, ever since like gen 5 or 6 the games declined imo

[digital glen]

Yeah

[mint valve]

olny if the kingdom is in ruin. Mr. mushroom is the sign of a kingdoms fall

[opaque sigil]

No, he's the sign of the passing of an age

[mint valve]

yes

[high forge]

isn't that the Grimm troupe?

[opaque sigil]

If he were the sign of a kingdom's fall he would've come and gone a long time ago

[mint valve]

true

[opaque sigil]

We speak the path of the Master Herald, he who would signal an Age's end.
This probably could include the fall of kingdoms but it is not limited to that

[mint valve]

Wait grimm could be in SS. GT Fans getting hype

[empty trench]

Pharloom is kinda alive

So prob no grimm

[mint valve]

Could hornet save Pharloom

[empty trench]

Only if the ending is a huge massacre, so grimm would make sense

[digital glen]

We really don't very much of what is happening in Pharloom, besides the curse from song and silk

[small goblet]

well grimm sent a bug to put a torch to summon troupe, maybe he knew something or knew kingdom was in ruins?

[high forge]

Other than Hornet and probably weavers, I don't think many bugs will return from HK.

[tranquil raft]

Is SS a sequel to HK or not?

[high forge]

We don't know.

[empty trench]

Its prob a prequel cuz the cannon endings

[small goblet]

answer to literally any question about ss

[mint valve]

one ending of HK. not endings

[opaque sigil]

Also no

[rancid junco]

silksong is a game we believe

[opaque sigil]

There's no dilemma with the HK endings whatsoever

All HK endings can lead to silksong

[empty trench]

The begin can lead to silksong too

[high forge]

I mean, Will Hornet be in Silksong?

[empty trench]

I guess the game will finish with the possibility of prequel or sequel

[opaque sigil]

Can't really

[tranquil raft]

What HK endings are cannon?

[pale lion]

who knows !

[high forge]

None of them technically.

[empty trench]

All of them

[little tendon]

Yeah TC said all of em are cannon in their own right

[empty trench]

Why

[opaque sigil]

Weavers have been in Pharloom a while, probably, but in HK they only just left

There probaly isn't time for three wastes trips, plus the events of silksong, plus the time Hornet would be in Hallownest

[tiny cairn]

just came back since december 22 what did i miss ???

[high forge]

Nothing.

[tiny cairn]

😦

[mint valve]

That statement could be out dated since it was made in 2016 and now there making a new game

[opaque sigil]

It's not outdated and was clearly made with silksong in mind

[high forge]

Go to the youtube channel Silksong news to receive that answer daily.

[little tendon]

Well they never corrected it so there’s no reason not to think their cannon

[jade canopy]

I think that pretty weak, the weavers are not from hallownest anyway, and without knowing the ending of ss we can’t really know how long it took or anything

[opaque sigil]

They were in Hallownest for a long time prior to the events of HK, and left just prior

They are not from Hallownest originally but they spent a lot of time there

And they just left Deepnest recently, as it fell to infection

[empty trench]

Could it be a pharloom's cage?

[tropic mica]

Could be I think

[opaque sigil]

It falling to infection was the result of the surge of infection from THK's shell breaking, which happened immediately prior to the game's events

[opaque sigil]

That's an elevator mechanism

[fringe pulsar]

Really?

[empty trench]

Its in a secret area

[mint valve]

In the physical version of the wanderers journal it says the wevers have only recently left

[opaque sigil]

Yes, it does

[jade canopy]

We don’t know how much there is of the weavers in pharloom, maybe they left a long long time ago, maybe not, maybe the inhabitants kidnapping them lead to all the installations we see in the trailers
What I’m trying to say is that we know little about the weavers, and not enough to draw such a conclusion

[opaque sigil]

So basically all of SS, all the time since weavers returned to Pharloom, and the duration of three wastes trips would have had to add up to substantially less time than one waste trip for TK

[opaque sigil]

What DUsty said

They only left recently

[jade canopy]

Maybe there are enough weavers to live in both place

[opaque sigil]

Then Hornet wouldn't be exploring her past

If the weavers in Pharloom have no connection to the weavers of Deepnest, then Hornet has no connection to them either

[uncut citrus]

also we dont know if all of the weavers left pharloom for hallownest

[opaque sigil]

Doesn't really matter

If the caste knew to go get Hornet, then Hallownest weavers must have gotten back there

[jade canopy]

So many possibilities to justify a prequel
If we considered pharloom the home of the weavers, with the majority of them leaving but not all, it would still mean that hornet gets to explore the hallownest weavers past

[opaque sigil]

If you're jumping through hoops to justify a prequel that's just begging the question

[full rune]

prequel gang

[opaque sigil]

Not a legitimate argument at all

[jade canopy]

Cuz seal breaking bugs isn’t jumping a few hoops ?

[opaque sigil]

No, they're a thing

TC shows them to us very clearly, no doubt about their existence

And TC has been accounting for the absence of Hornet's abilities and tools

No reason to do that if it's a prequel

[jade canopy]

But how the fuck would the bell cultist know to use them on that perticular temple, that contains lots of dangerous stuff, seems unlikely

[opaque sigil]

They tracked her down somehow

No doubt about that

[jade canopy]

Seems like jumping a few hoops

[nimble radish]

weaverdar
damn that pun doesn't quite work

[jade canopy]

She seems pretty stealthy, and hard to track down if you ask me

[tranquil raft]

At least we know that SS will come out before 2099

[opaque sigil]

Well they definitely did it, else she wouldn't be in the cage

[jade canopy]

Maybe that’s something she learned because of f a past where she wasn’t so stealthy

[opaque sigil]

You can't argue that they couldn't find her

[jade canopy]

Aka cuz she got captured

[opaque sigil]

That's just making up nonsense and using it as an argument

Therefore if she didn't get captured then she wouldn't have learned stealth, and so it doesn't support prequel at all

Because after the events of HK she wouldn't have learned stealth

Since she hadn't been captured

[empty trench]

The weavers prob left before pale king cuz he sealed deepnest (mantis blocks the passage), smth like that, idk

[opaque sigil]

Is that bullshit circular logic? Yes. Is it the same as your logic? Yes.

[low jasper]

Didn't the weavers leave because of the infection coming back?

[opaque sigil]

Yes

[low jasper]

Couldn't they have tracked where they came from to then find Hornet then?

[opaque sigil]

The weavers probably were why the caste knew to go to Hallownest to find Hornet

[empty trench]

Btw, we can see a weaver in the place where we get the weaver charm

[jade canopy]

That’s the main problem I have with silksong being a prequel
What happens after the events of hollow knight ? Either she’s fine, or she is trapped in the seal set up by a GOD, or she is fighting a few gods
But we forget all of that now she is exploring her past

[low jasper]

Yeah
And we see one stray weaver still in Hallownest so

It would make the most sense to be a sequel

[opaque sigil]

She's fine
She's asleep but fine
She's fine

[nimble radish]

I wouldn't call locked in the egg fine

[opaque sigil]

She's not dead, nor is the seal unbreakable

[hollow oracle]

Doesn’t it depend on which ending is cannon tho

[jade canopy]

So the sequel of hollow knight, basically doesn’t acknowledge the fucking cliffhanger at the end of hollow knight

[opaque sigil]

It doesn't have to

That's not a strong argument

That's just "I don't want a sequel that doesn't address this"

[hollow oracle]

The real cliffhanger is mr mushroom man flying across the sky

[low jasper]

Aren't the events of Silksong supposed to be cut off from the events of Hollow Knight so new players aren't confused anyway?

[opaque sigil]

Which is fine, whatever, but either way it won't be addressed so who cares

[low jasper]

So the endings wouldn't come in to play regardless

[opaque sigil]

Mostly, but not entirely.

[empty trench]

There are weavers in hallownest when hk events happens, at least one (the one we see in deepnest, in the place we get a weaver charm)

[opaque sigil]

The endings won't come into play though, no reason for them to, and TC explicitly said that they would account for all, so including one would be a failure to do that

[hollow oracle]

Different place different time so it doesn’t really have much to do with the main game besides being the same universe

[mint valve]

Sorry my internet cut out what did I miss. any silksong?

[low jasper]

As far as I can tell, Silksong is gonna be a sequel
It makes the most sense honestly

No, sadly no Silksong

[high forge]

no

[jade canopy]

And she’s not sleeping in the black egg she is being drained by it
Counter argument ? Well the bell and seal breaking bugs got here right after hk events, why not, but then do they also come while hornet is fighting THK and tk is wandering hallownest as the god of gods ?

[mint valve]

[opaque sigil]

They come in all instances but they don't need to break a seal in all instances, and it probably isn't immediately after

[hollow oracle]

Wasn’t silksong already confirmed to be a prequel at the least? As in before hollow knight not after

[opaque sigil]

And EtV is nothing like what you said, at all

[low jasper]

Not that I can tell

[high forge]

We have no idea.

[low jasper]

I've only seen Silksong addressed as a sequel, not prequel so

[opaque sigil]

Hornet doesn't fight THK (If she did for some reason she'd just slaughter it) and the god of gods isn't really a threat. Odds are it heads back to Abyss and messes around in godhome

[mint valve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv6CRPqkpuU

[hollow oracle]

Hmm o well I have no source that I can call upon so

[jade canopy]

Tbh no one knows what happens in EtV, like it’s super super unclear and the hornet dlc was probably supposed to answer some of that, which it won’t and that’s completely understandable

[empty trench]

She does it in godhome ending

[opaque sigil]

No, she probably doesn't. She has no reason to

[opaque sigil]

Doubling down on the appeal to ignorance

[coarse leaf]

why would hornet dlc have answers to EtV 🤔

[opaque sigil]

It won't

[spare kite]

Silksong is a prequel, the devs have definitely said it at some point, plus they've said that all endings are equally canon which they wouldn't be possible if ss was a sequel

[opaque sigil]

Never was planned to

[opaque sigil]

Wrong on both counts

[high forge]

ok but what about sealed siblings

[low jasper]

Silksong has a barrier between the events of it and Hollow Knight so the endings won't be in account. If you can find where it was said to be a prequel, please cite

[spare kite]

Pretty sure in the video you sent they literally say the events of silksong happen before hollow knight

[opaque sigil]

Seal breaking techniques exist, and one was very clearly thrust in our faces in the ss demo

[jade canopy]

But then why does the game suggest it does ? What would be the point of a tense atmosphere and music if not to indicate a fight that in reality was just a bait

[spare kite]

Hold on, I'll go find a source

[opaque sigil]

It doesn't really suggest she does, she's just startled by THK suddenly appearing behind her

[hollow oracle]

There is no source only theory crafting

[jade canopy]

I would be really really surprised

[empty trench]

It looks like, check 01:20 (she does fighting position)https://youtu.be/WEWWOeoQWcs

[opaque sigil]

If she did decide to kill it it wouldn't be a fight, it would be an execution

[jade canopy]

Nah come on, your not being honest here

[opaque sigil]

I am

[empty trench]

Or maybe shes just doing self defense

[opaque sigil]

THK is not in a combat stance, nor is it capable of fighting. Hornet has no reason to initiate combat

[hollow oracle]

It is a defensive stand and that’s final no cap

[low jasper]

The way I interpret it, Hornet takes a ready to fight stance

We can't assume she's fighting for sure, she could just be ready to defend herself if THK attacks first

[jade canopy]

Well he seemed capable to fight us …

[opaque sigil]

THK was empowered by Rad's presence, at this point it can barely stand

[low jasper]

He has his head screwed on straight now though, and no infection so

[high forge]

one of her attacks is a parry in Hornet 2 iirc so probably yeah.

[opaque sigil]

I'll offer fair warning. The Vessel may itself be weak, but it is much empowered by that force within.

[spare kite]

Maybe I'm misremembering prequel stuff, but all endings are definitely equally canon

[opaque sigil]

They are all canon

[empty trench]

Hornet uses silk when she sees THK too

[opaque sigil]

Their all being canon does not mean it has to be a prequel

[empty trench]

So it at least looks like a combat

[low jasper]

Yeah, all endings being canon isn't up for debate honestly

But I think that's also part of why there's a barrier. So they DONT have to choose a canon ending between Hollow Knight and Silksong

[opaque sigil]

SS simply need not address endings of HK and in its current state as we understand it all endings would be compatible as a sequel

[hollow oracle]

None of them are canon it’s all a dream

[hollow oracle]

This tbh

[tired flicker]

Wonder when silksong will get an update, been a while I think

[hollow oracle]

For now all we can do is wait and endure

[opaque sigil]

It's been about a year

[low jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-gif-17401381

[tired flicker]

Yeah team edge was the last one right

[low jasper]

Ye

[opaque sigil]

I kinda doubt we'll go another year without something, but it's very possible

[low jasper]

If we do I am going to yell

[spare kite]

Apparently the 'evidence' that ss is a prequel is that it hints that hornet could be from farloom in a french translation

[opaque sigil]

The french translation is bad

[hollow oracle]

As a long standing player the wait gets progressively better tbh

[opaque sigil]

Nothing it says is trustworthy, really

[low jasper]

I
Well

I mean, Pharloom is where the WEAVERS are from, but Hornet was born in Deepnest so

[hollow oracle]

I almost forgot about it at one point but then got reminded by someone

[tired flicker]

I hope it’s a sequel

[low jasper]

It's probably going to be

[opaque sigil]

Sequel would certainly afford more narrative and mechanical freedom

[tired flicker]

It makes sense because doesn’t the hollow knight like show up with hornet at an ending

[pale lion]

i mean it's been advertised as a sequel

[hollow oracle]

It’s already confirmed prequel didn’t we just discuss this or am I missing something

[spare kite]

Basically when you fight her in french it talks about how she "took too long to return to the ancient kingdom"

[opaque sigil]

It's not

[bronze maple]

where is it confirmed?

[low jasper]

Not confirmed, not by a long shot

[spare kite]

It was also in the original dev notes

[opaque sigil]

Was removed for a reason

[low jasper]

Yeah, cut content probably shouldn't be considered here

[narrow lava]

but sir, bone bottom was cut content

[spare kite]

Cut from being said does not always equal being removed from canon

[opaque sigil]

It does

[coarse leaf]

um no?

[opaque sigil]

It was not said, therefore you cannot argue that somebody said it

[coarse leaf]

we dont know that

[fringe pulsar]

Bone forest

[narrow lava]

wait whats the lava place called? im pretty sure it was cut

[rancid junco]

holy shit you just disagreed with the fbi

[coarse leaf]

ohhhh

[low jasper]

It
Does tho. Wat

[opaque sigil]

Original name was Forest of Bones iirc

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/traffic-fbi-open-up-raid-gif-13450966

[rancid junco]

forest of bones i thinl

[spare kite]

You can however argue that while the line isn't said, there were clearly plans from team cherry to have hornet spend a bunch of time in somewhere other than hallownest for a major amount of time before the events of hollow knight

[coarse leaf]

wait it was removed from hk

[jade canopy]

There’s a difference between cut, and hidden in the game files, stuff like pv dream nail dialogue was probably meant to be read, not the french translation using some random all ass commentary by TC

[opaque sigil]

No, PV dnd was not supposed to be in there

[haughty brook]

I think that the name of zone will be still Forest of Bones in SS because there is a ton of bones.

[narrow lava]

so I was right

[coarse leaf]

its gonna be bonebottom right?

[opaque sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC7ysfvXrlw&t=43s

[slate wagon]

Bonebottom is the name of a town iirc

[low jasper]

Having plans does not mean they're still in effect. It's very possible that could have been changed during development and not be considered at all

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, bonebottom is a town, forest of bones/boneforest/whatever it's called now is a nearby area

[narrow lava]

well, I was semi right, I meant the lava place, but wrong because I got the name wrong

[spare kite]

I'm not saying it's certain, however it shouldn't be ruled out as a possibility just because the line was cut from the game

[opaque sigil]

The line is bad evidence

It was removed

[low jasper]

As far as I'm concerned, cut lines don't really matter. It's not presented in game, so it's not solid evidence

[opaque sigil]

The line was objectionable to TC, probably because it said something TC changed their mind about saying

And so if TC changed their mind about saying that Hornet had been elsewhere, does that really help your argument

If I retract a statement, does that statement necessarily indicate what I actually still think

[proud dagger]

It’s far more likely that they removed the line because Hornet hadn’t spent time away from Hallownest than because they’re secretly trying to hide the information that she was away

[opaque sigil]

No, of course not

[low jasper]

Either way, the line doesn't count cause it was cut
So any assumptions she left Hallownest based on that line shouldn't be taken seriously. Cut content does not equal hidden content

[opaque sigil]

Misread

[haughty brook]

I think it was just to correct any misconception.

[spare kite]

The line could be objectionable for many reasons, maybe they didn't have silksong planned at the time and didn't want to put in a line that didn't connect to any part of the game, maybe they weren't certain at the time on what they wanted to do with hornet's story. I'm not saying it's sure fire proof, but if they already had ideas on what they might be able to do with hornet, it's certainly possible that they expanded upon them when they decided to make a game based around the character

[haughty brook]

Wonky translation leading to misconception happened in other games, specially Japanese ones.

[opaque sigil]

If they didn't have silksong planned then that line being referring to silksong is not possible

[low jasper]

Yeah

It was probably cut cause hey, Hornet leaving Hallownest doesn't make sense. Especially since Silksong wasn't even thought about yet

[hollow oracle]

I like how im pretty sure they said it was gonna be a prequel at some point but I just cant find it and for some reason im not the only one

[opaque sigil]

If they weren't certain what to do at the time then even if it was in reference to silksong the fact that it was changed would imply that they decided not to make it a prequel

[spare kite]

I literally never said it was in reference to silksong, in fact I said it could've been cut because they had nothing to tie it with, so it would be an empty line

[hollow oracle]

they literally call it a sequel in the video

[opaque sigil]

If it was an empty line then it had nothing to do with silksong anyways

And so it doesn't make sense to call it support of a prequel

[proud dagger]

We know the Hornet DLC was planned back during the development of HK, but it was presumably intended to take place in Hallownest and not in an entirely different kingdom

[jade canopy]

And it’s usually around this time, after almost an hour of speculation over very few tiny clues that someone sais « interquel ? » and the discussion just turns into more madness that it already was

[low jasper]

The hell is an interquel?

[opaque sigil]

Originally it was an alternate character option so yeah

[jade canopy]

ss happens in the middle of hk

[opaque sigil]

They never said that

[spare kite]

Something that happens during the events of something else

[low jasper]

Ah gotcha

[opaque sigil]

You can't find TC calling SS a prequel because they never did

[spare kite]

For instance, Silksong takes place during the time between hornet protector and hornet sentinel

[hollow oracle]

yea thats what i mean, but I could have sworn they did

[opaque sigil]

Sometimes that happens, like how some people swear PK has void streaks

[haughty brook]

I read that at the beginning of Hornet DLC was almost always taking place in a new kingdom (or at least new areas apart from the known in vanilla HK) until the scope went bigger and bigger and decided for a completely separetate game.

[haughty brook]

Does people think that?

[opaque sigil]

He doesn't

[spare kite]

I think a lot of people think that TC said it because it was the main theory 2 years ago, and was considered basically fact

[opaque sigil]

That's... that's the thing. He doesn't have any void things

[jade canopy]

Or that he turned himself into a vessel, funniest shit I ever seen

[opaque sigil]

Sometimes

Is what his arm

[haughty brook]

People should not assosiate anything black colored with Void, you know?

[opaque sigil]

Nah this isn't that, people just sometimes have vivid memories of his having eye streaks, which he doesn't

[uncut citrus]

i think the ymeant PV

[opaque sigil]

Not PK

[spare kite]

that's not PK

[uncut citrus]

probably misread

[still dragon]

That's not PK

[spare kite]

I think people thought he was void because when you see him on his thrown there's the black circles rising

[uncut citrus]

yes yes, you missread PK for PV we can see that

[haughty brook]

Also some people said that the black particules in the Huntress room is void and I'm like...why?

[spare kite]

or this is a fake image, not sure which

[hollow oracle]

no clue what yall talking about i havent said a god damn thing in the past 5 mins

[opaque sigil]

Imagine not knowing what dust is

[rancid junco]

it's real

[proud dagger]

I’d say Sharpe is the only thing we’ve seen in Silksong that’s potentially connected to Void and even that’s inconclusive

[jade canopy]

Nah there is in fact a presence of void in his room, which may implied he was killed by void

[opaque sigil]

That's a stretch, to say the least

[spare kite]

I mean, tbf, it looks like these black particulates, and this is definitely some void flavored kool aid

[hollow oracle]

thas just a fountain

[opaque sigil]

Yeah that's just water

[hollow oracle]

quick drink/snack

[opaque sigil]

Void particles are just because AB is near Abyss

[spare kite]

Bruh, they need to boil that water then

[jade canopy]

The water might be a bit tarnished by you know, the sewer above

[haughty brook]

Again, people shouldn't assosiate anything black colored with the Void.

[hollow oracle]

yea but what lies above the sewer? the city THAS CORRECT IS FREE VOID DRINK

[opaque sigil]

Well those may actually be void, it's just not really dangerous in that quantity and form

[jade canopy]

Elderbug is void ?!???!

[slate wagon]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

AB has a decent amount of gaseous void

[spare kite]

Hornet is void???

[hollow oracle]

Void is just cola syrup, pretty sure

[rancid junco]

tiktiks are void

[spare kite]

Welcome back to the Hollow Knight communities favorite game
Is that Void?

For our first round....
Is this void?

[hollow oracle]

POV youve been left behind

[fringe pulsar]

Uh

[empty trench]

Yes

[haughty brook]

I heard a theory that said that the Hunter and Nosk are Void creatures and I'm like ???

[opaque sigil]

Yeah that happens from time to time

[haughty brook]

Like, maybe I could give some benefit of doubt towards Nosk (even if I think the theory is bogus) but the Hunter? Really?

[lost coyote]

anything black = void apparently

[hollow oracle]

what else would it be

[haughty brook]

When a Void Theorist sees a Black person in real life

[livid oracle]

Void is an anagram for Diov which is void backwards. Coincidence? I think not.

[opaque sigil]

[hollow oracle]

3 of those 4 letters can be found in absolute radiance so kinda confirms ur suspicion, it cant be a coincidence

[livid oracle]

holy shit

[opaque sigil]

[hollow oracle]

and the last letter is a V which is just a downward arrow pointing to what lies below, and what lies below? exactly, the void... or the abyss... or just dirt idk

[empty trench]

2 of those 4 letters can be found in jack vine so hes half void

[lost coyote]

2 of the 4 can also be found in ari gibson so he's also half void

however only one letter can be found in william pellen. this is a sure sign that he is an imposter

[jade canopy]

At least hornet doesn’t have much void with that theory

[haughty brook]

Screen transition

[empty trench]

The same applies for matthew 'leth' griffin

[hollow oracle]

Hornet has black body and as established before black = void

[haughty brook]

Jokes aside, I hope SS has some cool placed "shortcuts" like at the beginning of the game you can go to the Crystal Peak by paying to open a door and having the lattern to obtain the Dream Nail early on the game even before the first Hornet encounter (although you had to grind a bit for the geo to pay for it).

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, shortcuts are important for metroidvanias

[stark estuary]

They are

[haughty brook]

Also I like the idea (shown in the reveal trailer) of some tools helping in traversing the map in some inovative ways.

[twilit hull]

hey im probbrably late to this duscussion but whats the general agreement about the ss feburary realease stuff

[opaque sigil]

It's not a sure thing at all

It's possible, but that's it

[magic widget]

considering the lack of news, i doubt it will release in february

[haughty brook]

In my opinion...we don't have much evidence that indicates that February first is a reliable date for anything.

[warm bone]

that's not an opinion, that's just fact

[twilit hull]

ok i was just curious on everyones opinion thanks

[full bluff]

Like maybe in the mothn but not in 2022. But i still hope it will be this year

[coral glacier]

are flees void?

[high forge]

sure, yeah, why not.

[coral glacier]

pog

[magic widget]

i think it’s possible that silksong will release in 2022, but not so early in the year

[coral glacier]

I think it'll come in February

I'm hopeful

[tired flicker]

Hard to know really. With few updates they could either be adding more stuff or polishing and we wouldn’t know

Don’t get your hopes too high. Same thing happened with a steam database leak I think and it didn’t release

[coral glacier]

I will get my hopes up :clueless:

[hollow oracle]

there is no reason to think its gonna be released tomorrow or in a week or in a month or even a year since team cherry keeps adding content to it

from what ive heard atleast

[coral glacier]

nah it'll come out tomorrow trust

[hollow oracle]

its always tomorrow tbh

[coral glacier]

yes

[hollow oracle]

but on the real tho people who deny silksong releasing tomorrow are Actually as stupid as people saying it is

thats how little we can guess the release date

[haughty brook]

I mean, there is also the quote in which TC said that there is an end goal in line rather than just indefinitly adding stuff.

[hollow oracle]

vaguely (again I cant find source so fucking lynch me for it) remember that they said its basically done but TC just wants to keep adding more stuff to it which takes more time

[coral glacier]

sadge

but its gonna actually release tomorrow, trust

[hollow oracle]

no cap i trust

[coral glacier]

POG

[hollow oracle]

dw me and my friend have been calling out tomorrow since 2020

trust in tomorrow, grief the same day, and then tell yourself tomorrow's the day

[coral glacier]

yes

so definetely tomorrow it'll come

[wraith kernel]

tomorrow for sure

[coral glacier]

yes

[dusky pagoda]

i was born to play this game

[coral glacier]

same

[uncut citrus]

Why are ppls saying it can’t be in 2022? From the small things we know about Silksong it’s going really fast, they even said they could add 1 enemy a day (ofc some things might take longer but still) it wouldn’t be far fetched to think it will release in 2022

[coral glacier]

it'll release tomorrow

[haughty brook]

I think the "one enemy a day" only applied to HK when in SS it seems the objective is to have more complex patterns for common enemies for what I guessed from the Edge article.

[serene chasm]

because we also said it might be coming in 2020, and 2021. Its best not to get your hopes up

[uncut citrus]

They said that in an interview about silksong

[uncut citrus]

I’m not talking about that, I’m talking about « it won’t release in 2022 »

[magic widget]

i know when silksong’s coming out

eventually

[coral glacier]

it'll come out tomorrow

[rotund aurora]

Are there any events between now and the end of Feb?

[coral glacier]

nintendo direct?

[rotund aurora]

Yeah should prolly google lmao

[gilded wagon]

I looked and some are saying Nintendo direct

[shell yacht]

whether there are or not, doesnt mean shit

[gilded wagon]

Date 13.01. to February

[opaque sigil]

Is Nintendo saying it

[rotund aurora]

Oh there’s game jam

[gilded wagon]

Do you think if Nintendo would say that, you wouldn’t see it here 2000 times a day? Xd

[opaque sigil]

It was rhetorical

[rotund aurora]

Has there ever been directs early in the year?

[full rune]

it's rhetorically 100% confirmed it's coming out next direct

[shell yacht]

[opaque sigil]

I'm sure there are people guessing that there will be a nintendo direct early this year but that doesn't mean it's going to happen

[rotund aurora]

I mean, if theses been one early on the year then it would prolly be the perfect time to give release date if they were planning on release on in feb

[opaque sigil]

If they were planning to release in Feb then TGA would've been the perfect time

[sage glade]

whose rhetoric???

[full rune]

joe mama

[rotund aurora]

True.

[gilded wagon]

How about Hugh?

[sage glade]

joebama

[rotund aurora]

But since it didn’t get a reveal at TGA (rip), a Nintendo direct would be ideal

[opaque sigil]

It could have had a reveal at TGA if TC wanted

[rotund aurora]

Maybe a direct isn’t big enough tho

[supple widget]

Now you're in denial

[opaque sigil]

Geoff has expressed interest in featuring SS at the event in the past

[rotund aurora]

Lmao

[opaque sigil]

It's not like TC would have been turned down

[supple widget]

Next direct will probably be end of this month/start of next month

[coral glacier]

so tomorrow

[cerulean sundial]

What if the direct is on February?

[spare kite]

I wouldn't be surprised if it gets announced at a direct or something, but at the same time I would be even less surprised if they just did their own little thing to announce the release date

[haughty brook]

I would being inclined into announce the release date on their own.

[glass vigil]

It’s not like they need to be in a direct to get views

[wheat sail]

it would help though, more exposure than without tbh

[haughty brook]

Team Cherry already has tons of exposure on their own.

[main obsidian]

within the hollow knight bubble

[cunning geode]

outside of it too

[haughty brook]

Is not like they are super obscure deloper team. Look at the Steamwhislist, still in the fourth position after Elden Ring was in first position.

[cunning geode]

yup

Was about to make that point myself

[haughty brook]

Although as an indie TC is not as memetically famous as Undertale, it is still impresive in a world in which the more famous indies like Cuphead tend to be heavily backed by big companies.

[long ridge]

I would not be surprised if the release date and the release announcement are very, very close together.

Since it looks like Team Cherry really want the game to be essentially done before they invest energy in going public with anything.

[rotund aurora]

Couldn’t agree more

[turbid agate]

In my opinion silk song might never come out and it's just a big conspiracy.

[haughty brook]

I mean, between final trailer and the actual release of HK was about two weeks, I wouldn't be surprised it would be the same for SS.

[rotund aurora]

You can’t say it’s your opinion and then say “might”

[coral glacier]

itll come out tomorrow

[long ridge]

Yup. Maybe a little bit longer so they can iron out launch bugs for a larger game, but that's about the timeframe I'm thinking too.

Testers will do a final round of things to make sure it's ship shape and boom. Silksong.

[turbid agate]

I can say what I like with my freedom of speech(but nothing to bad).

[coral glacier]

too*

[turbid agate]

My mistake

[long ridge]

If your only defense for something is that you're legally allowed to say it, it's not a good look 😛

[rotund aurora]

That’s not what I was saying. It was more of a critique of your writing. It’s not an opinion that it “might” be a conspiracy, it’s a fact, until we know that it isn’t. Now, you can say you think it’s likely, but it being possible simply isn’t an opinion.

Until Silksong comes out, it is both equal parts real and being worked on, and equal parts a complete hoax.

[turbid agate]

Ah it all the same

[wheat sail]

Yes Team cherry don't "need" to announce on a direct, just saying it would be better for them

[long ridge]

It'll probably get advertised on Direct even if it gets a proper release first.

Just post-release, so Nintendo can generate some hype.

[rotund aurora]

I think that whatever next news we get will probably be a release date.

[long ridge]

Soon.

[wheat sail]

We've got one more special announcement: Omori

[lost coyote]

that crushed me

[wheat sail]

😦

[lost coyote]

omori is cool but :(

[spare kite]

Omori getting disowned by the hollow knight community any%

[long ridge]

I think that it's important that the community doesn't troll the next Nintendo Direct though.

[opaque sigil]

It's not the community doing it, it's a handful of assholes

[long ridge]

Like, if Silksong isn't announced, that's ok. We don't need to sit around spamming 'Silksong where' in the chat and spoiling the fun for other people.

[haughty brook]

Difficulty Level: Impossible

[wheat sail]

honestly unless tc says they won't be at a direct it WILL be trolled

[lost coyote]

if it's a full sized direct then it will be so full of spammers for other nintendo games that no one will notice silksong spammers

[wheat sail]

If TC says, then it won't be as bad

[long ridge]

I just don't want the HK community to get the reputation for being dicks.

[wheat sail]

Meh as long as its not like the undertale, FNF, Fnaf, minecraft, roblox, .... , communities its ok

[vivid belfry]

Popular thing have bad comunty

[wheat sail]

Yes

[vivid belfry]

Except not really

[wheat sail]

Actually is how it is

[vivid belfry]

The internet feeds off negativity and larger groups of people necessitates more shitty fans, even if it's at an equal or lesser percentage to other communities

[fleet temple]

It's more like, big community have loud annoying people but most are pretty chill

[vivid belfry]

From an outside perspective, you'll ONLY be exposed to those shitty fans

[spring perch]

Whens the next nintendo direct

[vivid belfry]

Kinda like how people only know HK fans for throwing shitfits in nintendo direct chats for some reason

The squeaky wheel gets the exposure as they say in radiator springs

-carsfan222

[spring perch]

?

[stone wyvern]

There is none

[wheat sail]

they havent announced one

[stone wyvern]

They only announce them a day or two prior

[spring perch]

Will tc showcase the game somewhere before releasing it?

Like e3?

[wheat sail]

Maybe somewhere who knows

[alpine zephyr]

Hello

[fleet temple]

it's worth saying that the first Silksong trailer wasn't at a direct, it was just released on its own

[tropic crow]

yo what if silksong released before April

[fringe pulsar]

L 1st

[tropic crow]

Or maybe not before April

Maybe in 21 minutes

[lusty rivet]

Feb 1st anyone? Or has that been disproven already

[night steppe]

I really hope it isn’t disproven

[serene chasm]

ask yourself; did any of the other release date leaks happen?

[analog forge]

tbf, we only had 1 other leak

[quartz rover]

my guide on how do blue lake thing

[serene chasm]

Thanks for that. Though #hk-discussion would like it more

[lusty rivet]

plus i have a little more trust in nvidia since its a more official source

[serene chasm]

Cloth. You were here yesterday. Dont ask for news

[quartz rover]

oh sorry meant to post it there

[lusty rivet]

but it couldve been just a plceholder

[serene chasm]

how is nvidia an official source. Theyre not a game store.

[lusty rivet]

GeForce now is an actual game database like steam, but just like steam that release date couldve been place holder

[fleet temple]

and steam isn't?

[serene chasm]

pretty sure their database comes from steam

seeing that the id number silksong had on the "leak" is the exact same as steams

[split tide]

Hasn’t the nvidia date been changed too after the whole leak thing

[serene chasm]

yeah. that also happened

[stray oriole]

I was watching a video on ss, and the youtube game recognizer game thingy came up with this. Could this mean anything, or is it just youtube taking the first google result?

[serene chasm]

Assume all leaks are fake/untrue until proven otherwise

[split tide]

It’s possible that silksong will have something to do with nvidia, but the feb date is almost certainly untrue at this point

[serene chasm]

The second.

[split tide]

Youtube taking the first google result for this

[coarse leaf]

I see that this channel is hyped for February

[split tide]

Google search algorithm doesn’t explicitly check for accuracy

[high hedge]

Thats why, it’s due to articles on the leak. YouTube uses Google to generate topics

[stray oriole]

ok yeah your right i looked it up and this is what came up.

[split tide]

Bunch of crappy articles reporting on the exact same leak thing

Basically pushes that to the top of the search results

[high hedge]

It’s because enough people have clicked on the article for the YouTube threshold

Kind of like that “Cats can have a little salami” meme

[stray oriole]

Do yall think we'll get anything on silksong at e3 this year or nah?

[serene chasm]

I dont think we will.

[stable quiver]

people earlier were thinking about Nintendo Direct in Jan - Feb could have news

[turbid agate]

Wow

[serene chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/vaas-definitionofinsanity-farcry3-insanity-gif-4899376

why do people keep expecting something at a direct

[stable quiver]

Gives people hope

[turbid agate]

Silk song will come soon enough

[stable quiver]

and people are thinking SS will come out in Feb - March

[dark plume]

everyone expecting silksong at indie worlds 😂

[empty trench]

We have the Gog 2022 thing too

"2022, team cherry..." in Gog

[stable quiver]

what is the Gog

[brazen needle]

Is indie direct indie world?

[empty trench]

Its like steam. You can see it in silksong page (Gog). But it only works on mobile (the 2022 message)

[serene chasm]

unless this info comes from the Cherry men themselves, it should be considered made up

[stable quiver]

ohh ok

[empty trench]

And we dont know so...

But it mentions team cherry

[stray oriole]

Does anyone else think it'll be kinda wierd if its called "Hollow Knight: Silksong"

[serene chasm]

of course it mentioned team cherry of a page about a game made by team cherry

[stray oriole]

Because like, it doesn't relate to the holllow knight does it?

[gray lance]

Well they have to tie it to the series itself somehow. Just calling it Silksong would be a bit odd

[serene chasm]

Hollow Knight is the francise. Like Legend of Zelda

[stray oriole]

Still, I feel like it'd be very strange for it have Hollow Knight in its title and then just never mention it at all.

[sage glade]

HAHHAHAH that's so appropriate

[sage glade]

works on pc too. just need to change browser width

[fleet temple]

This chat has really declined since the E3 deconfirm huh

[uncut citrus]

The chat is declining every day slowly but surely due to the lack of news

[fleet temple]

I think the E3 deconfirm by leth back in 2021 is what started the pessimistic decline

[serene chasm]

This chat started declining since June 8th 2019

[sage glade]

february 14th 2019 even

[mint valve]

I'm back

[serene chasm]

technically ss discussion didnt exist back then

[coarse leaf]

Hello shrine of lie believers

[mint valve]

did I miss any thing

[uncut citrus]

I mean maybe a little but like as soon as theres news ppls talk about it and it’s active and no random stuff happens, at this point ofc we still occasionally talk about edge and stuff but it has already been basically all discussed

[coarse leaf]

you missed people talking about lies

[uncut citrus]

Also hey DUsty and Reddy

[copper nest]

Still talking about release/news date I see

[mint valve]

what are these lies?

[coarse leaf]

silksong

[mint valve]

what about SS?

[serene chasm]

tell me your pretty lies

[uncut citrus]

The real lie is your bio

Tis but a hope

[coarse leaf]

Yo reev

[mint valve]

what hope

[hearty shale]

Im hopeful for next Nintendo direct, whenever that is

[uncut citrus]

The hope to one day, play silksong

[sage glade]

my grandkids will love it

[coarse leaf]

I WILL...ONE DAY I WILL. I WILL

[hearty shale]

No indie worlds or other things

[mint valve]

probably in feb

[hearty shale]

Or March latest

[coarse leaf]

i will play silksong someday

[uncut citrus]

But how if silksong is a lie

[high forge]

Hopefully Silksong releases in my lifetime.

[sage glade]

i just realized silksong will be my birthday gift if it comes out in feb

[coarse leaf]

I HAVE MY WAYS

[high forge]

For me Silksong will be my month-late birthday gift

[sage glade]

still works

[coarse leaf]

I WILL GET SILKSONG. THE GOOD WAY, OR THE BAD WAY

[high forge]

in that theoretical scenario.

[uncut citrus]

In all seriousness Silksong will probably release in less than 2years so it should be in our lifetime

[coarse leaf]

i have about 1 minute to live. is that enough

[mint valve]

wow. thats a long time. early happy 2075 birth day

[uncut citrus]

Don’t worry medic gotcha

You are now clean from anything that could have made your lifetime less than 2 years

[sage glade]

thank you kindly

[coarse leaf]

im ded

[narrow lava]

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrow-raise-eyebrows-medic-tf2-if-you-know-what-i-mean-gif-15027098

[high forge]

"Kill me" - Immortal Blu Spy Head in Medic's Fridge

[uncut citrus]

No medic saved you

[coarse leaf]

WAIT! MEDIC GAVE ME SILKSONG! IM ALIVE

[uncut citrus]

« Latzer »

Wait sorry for typo

Better

Also the last 5min was a perfect exemple of the chat’s slow decent into insanity

Even last 10min

[coarse leaf]

CHAD MEDIC
THEM BROWS LOOOOK THICCC

[pale oasis]

Silksong

[coarse leaf]

Dont you say that word in silksong chat

[pale oasis]

Silksong is voi

[coarse leaf]

[pale oasis]

Maybe the real silksong is the friends we made along the way

[high forge]

I have made no friends along the way

[coarse leaf]

Ok i believe that

[pale oasis]

Silksong

[coarse leaf]

[high forge]

Unless you count people on my discord friends list

in that case SnowyIThink is the real silksong I've gotten from this server

[coarse leaf]

my god i just counted my frien list and i got 44 friends!?

[warm bone]

quality over quantity for me

[coarse leaf]

STOP TALKING ABOUT SILKSONG

[sage glade]

too many? i could block you and get it down to 43 :D

[coarse leaf]

nah.you be good